Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lions lock up #1 seed, CM Punk joins the show, Ocho’s Bengals eliminated

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions defeating Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings to win the NFC North and lock up the #1 seed on the la...st day of the regular season. Later, Unc and Ocho are joined by WWE Superstar CM Punk to discuss his headlining event vs. Seth Rollins on WWE Raw on Netflix, Unc gives Ocho flack for his Cincinnati Bengals officially being eliminated from the playoffs after Unc’s Broncos beat the Chiefs and much more!03:13 - Show start03:38 - Intro05:43 - Vikings v Lions21:22 - Chiefs v Broncos31:00 - CM Punk joins50:37 - Shannon trolls Ocho on collecting bet(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:04 Thank you, thank you so much for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite. Thank you for joining us at the Lions. So what? The number one seed in the NFC with a 31-9 victory over the Minnesota Vikings. They get the first round by Minnesota. 14 wins will be the number five seed, and they're headed on the road.
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Starting point is 00:06:08 New Orleans, our first spring tour stop. Tickets are on sale February 6th in New Orleans. Be there. Got very special guests lined up for you. And we've also got a special guest joining the show a little later. But first, the game that you just watched. The Lions, despite all of their injuries, dominate. A.G. caught a heck of a game because Minnesota had it so many times.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Goal to goal in the red zone. And A.G. said, nah, bruh. Y'all ain't going to get none of the field goals. Y'all will not break into our home. So despite all the injuries, the Lions defense turned a masterpiece in, limited the Vikings and that high-powered offense. Pro Bowl wide receiver, Pro Bowl quarterback said, no, thank you. The reward, home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Dan Campbell tells Kevin O'Connell, I'll see you in two weeks during the post-game handshake. If Minnesota beats the Rams in LA next week, they could potentially be right back here in Detroit for the rematch. Ocho? Yes, sir. Jared Goff didn't play his best game. He turned the ball over,
Starting point is 00:07:16 but Jameer Gibbs ran wild. 23 carries, a buck 39. Three! I repeat, three touchdowns. Jared Goff was 27-33, 231, one touchdowns two interceptions uh but when it had to have it they got it yeah they did a great job of pressuring uh uh Sam Donald all night flustered him 18 of 41 a buck 66 was sacked twice no touchdowns no interception yeah what did you like about what you saw? Listen, A.G. called a hell of a game.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You said it. He called one hell of a game. Obviously, keeping Sam Donnell off script, making him uncomfortable, not allowing him to settle in and find rhythm with Addison, goddamn Jefferson, Hockinson,
Starting point is 00:08:04 obviously, Jared Goff not playing his best game tonight, but when he needed to make certain throws, he was able to make them. But Jameer Gibbs showed the load. He showed the load and did what he needed to do to carry the team. And that's what happened tonight. Most of the time, you would think, would it be in a pass-happy league the way it is outside of the Detroit, I mean outside the Baltimore Ravens, you expect them to own a game using the run game.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I didn't expect that from Detroit. I didn't expect it from Detroit. Not with just Gibbs. Maybe if Montgomery was there, we'd have your two-headed monster. But for them to be able to do it with Gibbs and him to run crazy the way he did tonight, what did he have? What, 161? 177?
Starting point is 00:08:48 No, he had 23 carries above 39. He had three touchdowns on the ground and he had one touchdown through the air. So Gibbs had four total touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It was my mistake. Yeah. 23 for above 39, three rushing touchdowns and he caught a fourth and goal on a Texas route. Yeah. He loves that little
Starting point is 00:09:04 Texas route where he starts him out and he angles it back in. Some a texas route yeah he loves that little texas route where he starts about and he angles it back in some people call it angle some people call it texas we called it texas and but we also had an angle route um he was sensational tonight yeah he was everybody you could understand why he's going to the pro bowl representing the nfc running backs in the pro bowl ocho yeah uh because he was sensational. It's Saquon, Jameer Gibbs, and Josh Jacobs represent the AFC at the running back position in the Pro Bowl. But this was a running game. This was the running attack in that defense.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Having Al-Azoni, I think that's how you say his name back. He was back after breaking his forearm. He had the picture on, I think it was on IG or Twitter, where he showed all the staples that was in his arm. He came back. He added a spark, a juice to that. And they did a great job. They did a great job of limiting Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:09:52 They did a great job of harassing Sam Darnold all night. Sam Darnold did not look good tonight. That goes a lot to that Detroit defense. Even though they're injured, the one thing I love about Dan Campbell, he does not make excuses. And he does not. He does not his team right the ability to make excuses because he says it doesn't matter who's out there i expect my team to go out there and play very very well and they've done just that and by doing that tonight they sew up home field advantage throughout as long as they
Starting point is 00:10:21 win you're gonna have to go through det Detroit in order to get to New Orleans. 31-9 over Minnesota, Detroit. We saw this thing building. Well, the year before, I think they won like their last six or seven games. And you saw it building. Last year, they got a kind of little slow start, but they picked it up. Got all the way to the NFC Championship game. If I'm not mistaken, had like a 17-7 lead at half and kind of squandered
Starting point is 00:10:45 that thing away. But this year, knowing and learning from what transpired last year, Ocho, this looks like an improved team. This looks like a team
Starting point is 00:10:54 that's hungry. They have something to prove. That's a dangerous man. That's a dangerous team. When you have something to prove and you go out there and do it week in and week out
Starting point is 00:11:02 and you have to be impressed with what you saw from Detroit. Yeah, most definitely. Listen, to be impressed with what you saw from Detroit. Yeah, most definitely. Listen, not only impressed with what we saw from Detroit, not in this game, but what we've seen from them all season. But Dan can be able to do for the culture, you know, in Detroit and for that locker room and that franchise
Starting point is 00:11:17 and coming in with the attitude that he has. You know, everybody was laughing at him when he first got there. Talking about he going to bite on kneecaps. You know, everybody was laughing at him when he first got there. Talking about he going to bite on kneecaps. You know, making jokes. We laughing at it and not knowing, not understanding. Listen, in what, a three, three, four year span? Franchise is completely turned around. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's no longer a laughing stock, you know? So now, you know, based on what he's been able to do, obviously getting the right pieces around him and, you know, Jerry Goff and some of the other fellas, Jameer Gibbs and Montgomery, Jamison Williams, Mom Ross St. Brown, and some defensive players, Brian Branch, one of the best in the game. Dude, they are Super Bowl contenders. Now, in such a short span.
Starting point is 00:12:04 The thing is, is that it only matters. 15 and two is great. And I don't want to minimize that. Right. But when it matters, can you be 15 and two? Because now it's zero, zero. Yeah. You have to play your best in order to advance you can't turn the ball over like you did
Starting point is 00:12:28 today and expect to beat these teams no you pay double for turnovers playoff time and detroit's gonna have and golf is gonna have to play better i believe he will but jameer gills they leaned heavily on gills he's so explosive i mean he hit a crease and he's a threat to hit his head on the goal post. Yep, bye-bye. He was sensational tonight. They need it. Almond Ross St. Brown came up with a big third down catch after a big third down catch. So did
Starting point is 00:12:55 Laporta. J-Mo had a couple of big catches in there, and that's what you have to do. You have to stay on the field on third down because the more that wears on the defense, the more you stay on the field on third down because the more a that words on the defense yeah the more you stay on the field and pick up those third downs because all you want to do is get to the third down defense let's get in the third down let's get off the field right but then we got them at third down man man we got them third and eight we got them third and 12
Starting point is 00:13:17 damn they got another first down they got another first down and if if you see, all of a sudden, when the levy broke, you see Ocho? Yeah. It went 17, 24, bam, just like that. Up on you. Just like that. When the levy burst, it was over. And there was nothing Minnesota could do. So congratulations to the Detroit Lions.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Detroit, stand up. You have a potential Super Bowl team they get a week off I saw Kevin Zeitler I think that's the guard that ended up tweaking his hamstring that's probably why Pierce you see Pierce hey we talking about
Starting point is 00:13:58 Big Bad getting that in the center yesterday you see Big Bad pull that thing up he's like nah that's too far to run I haven't run that far in 20 years. Ain't no sense of me trying to do that now. Ain't no sense of me trying to do it now. Congratulations, Detroit.
Starting point is 00:14:13 31-9 over Minnesota. 15-2 Detroit. Number one seed in the NFC. Minnesota, 14-3. Now they head on the road. They will face the LA Rams which lost today to Seattle. Had they won, they would have been
Starting point is 00:14:31 three seed. They lost. They're the four seed. Tampa is now the three seed. Tampa's the three seed and they'll face who's who does Tampa face? Green Bay? No
Starting point is 00:14:54 Tampa face Washington Green Bay Green Bay faces the two seed The Eagles Yeah That's going to be a good one Tampa beat the Commanders Opening day 37-20 if I'm not mistaken the Eagles. Oh, yeah. Ooh, that's going to be a good one. Tampa beat the Commanders opening day,
Starting point is 00:15:05 37-20, if I'm not mistaken. So the Commanders are at home against Tampa, Green Bay, right? Mm-hmm. That's what I thought. Right. right right so there we have it Ocho there have been multiple teams that have
Starting point is 00:15:34 expressed interest in trading for the Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell who's in the final year of his contract and has had no extension talks per Dre Glazer. Multiple teams have had him on their boards. That would be, for me,
Starting point is 00:15:52 that seems foolish that Minnesota would trade the guy that's done so much for you over the last couple of years. They missed the playoffs last year because a lot of that had to do with JJ got injured early, got nicked, and you remember Cousins towards Achilles. The previous year, they went to the playoffs. Last year, they missed the playoffs. They had some injuries. This year,
Starting point is 00:16:12 14-3, they're back in the playoffs. That seems really, really foolish that you got a young head coach that seems to be the right guy for the job, and you're willing to trade him for what draft picks? I'm not sure. don't i don't like i'm not i'm not i don't i don't like it i don't know what you want let me hear what you feel about it
Starting point is 00:16:30 i mean i don't understand what management is doing i don't understand what ownership is doing obviously we have a coach like that obviously he's getting the most out of his players uh a young coach at that and putting the franchise in a position where they're in contention every year they're in contention every year i They're in contention every year. I don't think Minnesota would understand how difficult it is. Ownership would understand how difficult it is to get to the record they are right now as far as consistency goes year in and year out. Obviously, some injuries happened that prevented them from going last year. But it just makes no sense why those talks hadn't been had already.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Maybe they are going to take care of him, you know, when the offseason hits. But right now they're allowing Coach O'Connell to focus on. You got your robe on the wrong way. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't mind me. You keep talking. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You worried about what I got my robe? It's me. I know. I'm just saying. But, yeah, I'm assuming they probably want to work on something to allow Coach to focus on the rest of the season and trying to get to New Orleans instead of having contract talks in the middle of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:17:34 So, hoping it only makes sense that you take care of a coach that's had the type of success he's had since he's been there. Kevin O'Connell is in the final year of his contract next season. So he coached this year, so coming up the next season. He got one more. He got one more. He's in the final season. Oh, so they do.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Hey, listen, now this is new to me. This is new to me. Now you know how players have a year on their deal, so they treat coaches the same way when they have a year left. They could. Look, it's not alone. John Gruden got traded for two number ones and eight million in cash
Starting point is 00:18:10 from the Raiders to Tampa. Coach Belichick went for a number one from the Jets to the Patriots. Herm Edwards got traded from the Jets to the Kansas City. So this is not unprecedented. This is not uncharted territory that we see coaches get traded for draft compensation.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Sean Payton got traded from New Orleans to the Broncos. He went for a first-round draft pick. So this is not uncharted territory, but it doesn't make any sense to me, considering Sean Payton, he retired. And so clearly he didn't want to be there. So let's get something for it. considering, you know, Sean Payton, he retired. You know, he retired. And so, clearly, he didn't want to be there. So, let's get something for it. Out there, Tampa's like, y'all want John Gruden that bad?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Cost you two first-round picks and they meet you. Mm-hmm. The Glazier family said they gladly obliged. It paid off. They won a Super Bowl. Right. Coach Belichick, the greatest trade. Hey, the Jets got a first-round pick for Coach Belichick, the greatest trade. Hey, the Jets got a first-round pick for Coach Belichick.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I think it worked out for the Patriots. Very, very good. Not so well for the Jets, but it worked out very well for the Patriots. So they got six championships out of that coach. That's pretty good. Yeah. Coach Herm had some mixed results. He didn't win a championship there, but he had some mixed results. But I think it worked out very well for some of the coaches
Starting point is 00:19:26 that got traded for draft compensation. I think everything went very well for the team that gave up the draft picks. But it doesn't make sense to me to do it. If the Vikings lose to the Rams next week, they'd be 0-4 versus the Rams and the Lions this year, 14-0 against every other team. So they've lost twice to Detroit. They've lost once to the Rams, and if they lose again,
Starting point is 00:19:54 they'd be 0-4 against the Rams and Detroit. So obviously the Rams did not play all their guys today. I think Puka was out. Stafford was out. So there were a couple of guys that did not play all their guys today i think uh uh puka was out um stafford was out so there were a couple of guys that did not play today um and so but i was happy for gino because gino had a lot of incentives oh yeah 10 wins two million dollars completion percentage he met that uh how better stats that he had last year so he picked up a a quick $6 million. I'm happy for Gino. Yeah. Thought he got a bum rap in the Jets. But I'm glad, Gino, you found a home. Congratulations, bro.
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Starting point is 00:26:22 the man who laughs last, laughs loudest. And they said, why you say that? Because he will be the only one laughing. He will be the only one laughing that you will hear. Don't you love it when a plan comes together? Now, last week, if your team did not win, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. So this is what we're going to do right now. If your team is not going to the playoffs, I don't want to hear
Starting point is 00:26:48 you say play or offs and I don't want you to use a word with play or off in it. So you can't say playground, playtime, playmate. I don't want to hear none of that. I don't want to hear you say PlayStation. I don't want to hear you say French bro, I got to play
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Starting point is 00:27:19 any word come out of your mouth to have play or off in it. Now you hear me? Don't say playground. Yeah. Don't say I was playing around. Okay. I won't hear none of that. I got you. I won't hear none of that. Can I ask you something? Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's for everybody that's in the chat that happen to be a Bronco fan. Are you really happy with today's win despite what the implications of... Aesthetic! Are you happy with today's win despite the implications on what today's win meant what it meant hey hold on wait let me finish with the team with the effort that the chiefs put out there the chief didn't even try they didn't even do it they didn't even why do you consider yourself with somebody else's effort what about your team effort what what about your team effort in september what about your team's effort? What? What about your team's effort in September?
Starting point is 00:28:05 What about your team's effort in October? What about your team's effort in November? You keep saying, we got up to that slow start. Well, considering you won your last five games, so you won nine games total. You won your last five. So what happened in September, October, and November that caused y'all to lose and ain't win
Starting point is 00:28:28 but four games? Well, listen, when it comes to the game of football, it's all about ups and downs. It's all about ups and downs. Yeah, it's ups and downs. So that's what happened in September and October. That's what happened. But what we did... No, November too. Don't you leave out November. We wasn't that bad in November. We started winning at the end of November.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Considering, you, Ocho, y'all won nine games total. You won your last five. So that means you won every game in December and won in January. So that means in September, October, November, you won a grand total of four games. So you want to rephrase that.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Okay, listen, you have to understand. We lost some very close games. There were some very close games with some close calls, but there was a little help on the Zebra side. Not as help with the Zebra. Not as help with the Zebra. Yeah, listen, you watched us all season long, man. I watched all season.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Now, offensively, we started off slow. Defensively, we didn't start playing well until the back half of the season. I'm talking about the back, back half of the season. You know, it seems like the thing, all the quarterbacks, the season. I'm talking about the back, back half of the season. You know, it seems like the thing, all the quarterbacks, the quarterbacks like to get gifts. I got the Bengals. I got them that hefty baton. What's that? Because, you know, you got to clean out your locker tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I got to do some luggage. I got to borrow some luggage, get this hefty baton to put all this stuff in to make sure they get it from point A to point B. Oh, man, listen, you ain't got to do that. Because you know what? I got something for you. I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Since you're talking Spody, right? Since you're talking Spody. Run me my money. I know that you ain't mentioned about my money. I owe you a thousand, right? No, no, no, no, no. You owe me a thousand on top of the three you already owe me. Now I want you to run me my money.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm back at 4,000 again? Show lives. no. You owe me $1,000 on top of the three you already owe me. Now I want you to run me my money. I'm back at $4,000 again? Show lives. Okay. You was at $3,000. But you see, I told you. I said, Ocho, I don't want to bet you. Listen. I don't want to do this, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I'm going to give you money. I'm going to give you money. Where do you want me to give it to you at? You want me to sell it to you? I can sell it to you right now. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I can sell it to you right now. Have a better flat. No. I want to pay my debt you gonna let me talk about your it's my turn now I want $4,000
Starting point is 00:30:35 right $4,000 how you want it Buffalo Nichols run me four grand? Buffalo Nichols. Run me four grand at Buffalo Nichols. Hey.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Huh? How you want it, man? Come on, man, for real. I want Buffalo Nichols. I don't know what no Buffalo Nichols is. Don't worry about it. That's not your job. Go to the bank. Go to the cashier and say you like $4,000 no Buffalo Nichols is. Don't worry about it. That's not your job. Go to the bank.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Go to the cashier and say you like $4,000 in Buffalo Nichols. Is there such thing? Whoa! Is there such thing? Why is he doing me like this? Oh, my God. I've never heard of anything called Buffalo Nichols. That's not a currency.
Starting point is 00:31:24 That's not a currency here in the States. Can I please just sell you your money so I ain't got to hear nothing about it no more? Teddy says, no. Teddy Bear says, no. You cannot sell me my money. Or you give me $4,000 in wheat pennies. Who?
Starting point is 00:31:41 $4,000 in wheat pennies. What's a wheat penny?'s a wheat penny whoa whoa whoa you know what what I'm noticing is you're asking a lot of questions well I'm asking I'm asking a lot of questions because down here in Miami
Starting point is 00:31:55 at Bank of America at Chase at Navy Federal we don't know nothing about no wheat pennies we don't know nothing about no Buffalo Nichols I've never heard of these phrases in my life.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I want Buffalo Nichols. And I told you I don't have cash out. So you can't Zelle me nothing. I didn't even mention cash out. Everybody has Zelle. I don't have Zelle. You have an iPhone, don't you? Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Okay, you got Apple Pay. I can Apple Pay it to you then. I don't got no Apple Pay. I got Ocho Pay. Now run me my money. I'm trying to pay you. You keep on talking about what you got and all this right here. But first of all,
Starting point is 00:32:34 why you talking? Because you answering questions. I'm talking. You asking me questions. Get your ass down before I make change. Hey, listen. I said, Ocho, please. I make change. Hey, listen, listen. I said, Ocho, please. I said, Ocho, get up off me.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I was down last week. I said, Ocho, come on, Ocho. You got me. Don't you say foot. As a matter of fact, don't even make reference to a ball. I don't want to hear you say soccer. I don't want to hear you say basket because they use ball. I said, come on, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Nah. So now, boy, Ocho. Yeah. Man, we, that was, nah. So now, go under here. But listen, you know, you a little too happy now. You very, very happy. You know who y'all got to play in the first round, huh? I tell you, hey. You know who y'all got to play in the first round, right? So I want to make sure on next week's episode, when I bring some trash bags in here,
Starting point is 00:33:30 when I bring, and we break it down Cancun on three, one, two, three, Cancun, I don't want to hear nothing. For the chat, I want you to say what you just said. You say, oh, do you know who y'all play next week? Right. I want you to know, Ocho, who do the Bengals play next week? Oh, so you happy? You happy we went home?
Starting point is 00:33:50 I don't know. Hold on. You think I take great pleasure in this? Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. And this is for the people in the community. If you a Bronco fan, are you that happy that we got a vacation a week earlier than you? That's it.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That's all it is. We got a vacation a week earlier than you. That's it. That's all it is. We got a vacation a week earlier than you because you're going to be home next week too. And I'm going to help you pack. I'm going to help you pack. What you got? Hey, listen. Hey, listen. Hey, that's that boy right there, man. No, no. Whoa, listen. Hey, listen. Hey, that's that boy right there, man.
Starting point is 00:34:27 No, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you talking about my team? That's that boy. Now, I'm not talking about your team. I'm talking about the individual that happens to play for your team. That's my team. I'm talking about the individual that happens to play for your team.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah. Hold on. I can't believe this man talking about somebody that plays in the blue and orange. No, no, no, no, no, no. As a matter of fact, I'm embarrassed. Don't do that. Your team has orange in their colors. Hey, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Ah, disgusting. George, bring me a glass. Bring me one of those LaPorte glass and some of that old Shea off the counter. What you finna celebrate? I'm just saying, it's gonna be a short celebration. I don't know why you're celebrating. Can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Do you know who you guys are playing in the first round next week? Who y'all not? Okay, I understand that. You scared to say the name? I know it. We play Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Okay. Okay. You know who y'all playing at? In Buffalo. Amway Stadium or whatever. Okay, okay. I know where y'all playing at? In Buffalo. Amway Stadium or whatever. I think that's the name of it. Okay. I'm just making sure.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You know what Josh Allen finna do to y'all? He finna send you home packing. Okay. He finna send you home packing. How that make you feel? So you get... Listen, you getting all hype. You happy.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But you getting ready to go home anyway next week. All of us gonna be in Cancun. Okay, Ocho. We gonna get back to this. We got a very special guest joining us. Right now. We got a very special guest joining us. There he goes.
Starting point is 00:35:54 See you. Tomorrow on Netflix, he faces Seth Rollins, WWE Raw on Netflix. CM Punk. CM, what it do? I feel like I'm in there. WWE Raw on Netflix. CM Punk. CM, what it do? Fuck my car. I don't care. Don't mind me, CM. I got a little celebration. I got a little celebration going. I'm celebrating you.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You celebrate me. We celebrate us. I'm drinking my sparkling water for both of you gentlemen. How are you guys doing tonight? CM, I'm doing much better than my partner. I'm not feeling good, CM. My bangles are going home. My bangles are going home. My bangles are going home. Unc is making fun of me.
Starting point is 00:36:28 He's embarrassing me in front of people I love in the chat. Yeah. I'm trying to find a way to get over it. I'm trying to find ways to get around the fact that not only did we lose, the Chiefs didn't even try today. They didn't even pinch the Broncos. They didn't fight. They just laid down. They didn't even pinch the Broncos. You know, they didn't fight. They just laid down.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They laid down. So I have no way to actually to fight for myself. I'm doing everything I can not to cry tonight. So far, I'm doing okay. Just keep your head above water. If I could give you any bit of advice, this is coming from a Chicago sports fan. Bears, Cubs.
Starting point is 00:37:08 There's always next year, Chad. There's always next year. I like that. I'll take that. That's what I was going to get. Your Bears did something that hadn't been done since 2018. They beat the Green Bay Packers. It was the final game of the season, but hopefully it gave
Starting point is 00:37:26 you hope, showed you what could potentially be for your Chicago Bears. Hope is a four-letter word in Chicago sports. There was hope at the beginning of the season. I just am comforted in the
Starting point is 00:37:42 fact that I can at least make fun of the Green Bay Packers and their fans for losing to this bear squad that's the hope that's the that's the silver lining in the bears game today so you tell us a little bit about tomorrow's match uh WWE Raw on Netflix you're uh battling uh Seth Rollins now this is a this is a beat that you guys have had brewing for an extended period of time. Are we going to settle this tomorrow? I would love to say yes, but for some reason, there's a lot of guys in the wrestling business that have these abandonment issues when it comes to me. I don't know if they didn't have like a real strong father figure or whatever, but no,
Starting point is 00:38:25 I, I would love to say I'm, I'm, I'm moving on to bigger and better things. I would love to be wrong about that too. But I think this is, this is one of those, this is one of those Hogan Savage deals. That's going to just go on for as long as the beef has already been festering, you know, 10 plus years, we're talking a decade here. I don't, I don't think even as big a night as they be on Netflix. And then no matter how bright the lights are, I think this one's going to fester for a while.
Starting point is 00:38:54 So what would be your message to Rollins and his fans coming in tomorrow's match? What's your message? What do you want to say to him? If he's listening right now, I know some of his fans are, but if he was listening right now, what would you tell him?
Starting point is 00:39:10 I'd say the same thing I just said to Mr. Ochocinco. You know, there's always next year. You know? Cry about it. You know, I get it, but, you know, tomorrow's not your night. Right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Let me ask you this. And if you win tomorrow, do you have your eyes set on WrestleMania? I got my eyes set on WrestleMania. Yeah, but that's a couple months away. The next step after I beat Rollins tomorrow is
Starting point is 00:39:44 World Rumble. Okay. You know, we don't got no offseason here. that's a couple months away the next step after uh i beat ronald's tomorrow's world rumble you know okay okay you know we don't got no off season here it's just constantly go go go i got some stuff to prove still uh you know i got hurt last year's rumble um so i'm i'm still looking to come back uh and and get get a w and that uh in that one let me ask you this. You were on, like, the Bears. You were on Netflix special when they had the Christmas Day game, and you were very outspoken about your Bears ownership.
Starting point is 00:40:12 You were like, bro, y'all need to sell the team. Because this has been terrible for a long time, and it's been a long time coming. Given what you saw today, they beat the Packers for the first time in five years.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Does that give you hope that they're trending in the right direction, that they have the right pieces in place, even if they don't have a coach currently? Yeah, you know, I think the coach is obviously a big part of it, unless you're going to field a team with no coach, which might be kind of interesting at this point. Because, you know, we had Lovie Smith, great coach, right? Super, super elite dynamic. Went ten to six and got fired yeah and he couldn't figure it out you know um so after a while listen this is yeah i was born and raised in chicago 85 bears i could sing you the super bowl shuffle backwards you know what i mean uh that i look back at it and historically everything i know now i look at that team and i'm like that should have have been the dynasty. Buddy Ryan, Ditka, all those players. We only won one. And it just feels like as a Chicago sports fan, you get that one and then it just feels like
Starting point is 00:41:17 another hundred years of pain because you're just like, well, we won then. Cubs fans, 108 years. And now all of a sudden it's just like, oh, well, we wanted... But you had Jordan, see him? You had Jordan for those years. Yeah, but that's, to me, that's the standard of being a Chicago sports fan, brother. Like, yeah, yeah, 100%. We expect and we demand
Starting point is 00:41:38 greatness, you know? We get these generational players, these generational talents and stuff like that. I can only look at the management and the ownership after a while when all these pieces are in place and nothing works. After a while, looking at the McCaskies and I'm hearing chatter about, oh, we need a new stadium because the city owns Soldier Field and we're not getting concession money. And after a while, I'm just like, okay, you just agree agree the owner and you don't care about winning sports fans all across the world, no matter where you're at,
Starting point is 00:42:09 whatever city you're in, you rep that city. You love that city. You show up for that city. You want winners. And that's the bottom line. I need a, I need an owner who's going to feel the team of winners. You, you mentioned that you got injured. You sustained an injury last year. If you don't mind reflect on that injury, what happened and what me you you mentioned that you got injured you sustained an injury last year if you don't mind reflect on that injury what happened and what's the worst injury that you have sustained in your professional wrestling career oh man this one was i think this one was pretty bad just because of uh you know my age and everything and i i tore my right tricep tendon completely off the bone okay and that's a bad one, especially I think in football, that's normally a career ender, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:42:48 No, it's not a career, but it's normally seasoning in me. Okay. Yeah. The season, my season definitely ended that day. That's for certain. I had a night where I woe is me and I cried about it and I was upset. I just come back to the WWE after 10 years of being gone and was looking forward to doing it, you know, just awesome, awesome stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And it came to a screeching halt, you know, and as an athlete who's somebody who's active every day, you guys know if you can't, if you can't play, if you can't do what you do, uh, if you can't go to the gym, uh, you lose your mind. And I, man, I lost my mind. I felt bad about it for about eight minutes, had a cry and then realized that at that moment, it felt like the worst thing that had ever happened to me. So I wanted to do the impossible and flip it and make it the best thing that ever happened to me. You know, I think we did that over the year. Fortunately for me, you know, in the sport and the business we're in, we don't always have to be a hundred percent. And I was injured, not a swing.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And I was in the ring. I was, you know, talking my mess, cutting promos and stuff like that. And I was still a real contribute. So that, uh, that was like a weight off my shoulders. When you got the, when you sustained that injury, did you know something right away was wrong? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you've ever done a tricep, but it just feels like a rubber band in your elbow snaps. I've done my left one. No pain in that one. They did the right one. It hurt like a son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And I don't know why. I don't know what the difference was between the two. But, yeah, i knew i was i knew i was out immediately can i ask you this what can we expect from the wwe on netflix as opposed to cable um i don't know we're all gonna find out together i think personally um the format of the show is going to be a little bit different i think uh people are asking questions about commercials you know obviously on cable we gotta you know we have a lot of miles to feed gotta show is going to be a little bit different. I think people are asking questions about commercials. Obviously on cable, we have a lot of miles to feed. You got to pay the beast, I like to say.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And that's going to be the same on Netflix, but I think it's also going to be different. I think you're going to see stretches where you're getting the first hour, maybe the first 90 minutes commercial free. And I don't know if it's going to be picture in picture. These are questions for people in a production truck, but I just know because Netflix't know if it's going to be picture in picture. These are questions for people in a production truck. But I just know because Netflix is streaming and it's not cable, we're not going to be kind of against the wall. You're not bound by the same standards on cable television as you are on streaming service. Especially like time constraints. You know, that's like the biggest difference between wrestling of just an audience or wrestling for television.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Like you got to know when your breaks are, how long the breaks are, how much time you got left in a show, when it's dropped dead, if you got an extra two, five minute overrun, you know, because there's another show after yours, you know? So it's not like football where it's just like, hey, we're continuing this until the last whistle until this game is over. Or even then you're getting the crawler saying, hey, we're on FS1. We're switching over to FS2 because this other game is bumping us and stuff like that. So there's definitely some stuff that we're going to be working out as we go. But I love that. I love that live TV chaos. Anything can happen and anything can go wrong in the atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Go ahead, Ocho. I have a question. chaos, anything can happen and anything can go wrong in the atmosphere. You know what? Go ahead, Ocho. I have a question. Obviously, being a wrestling fan from young, even still to this day, is there a dream match that you have? Is there a dream match that you have involving a legend from either the past or currently today that you haven't had or you would like to have? Yeah. I mean, I think everybody, when they ask me that question or when they hear somebody ask me that question,
Starting point is 00:46:31 one name always comes to mind. It's Stone Cold Steve Austin. You know, I, unfortunately he had to retire because of like injuries and he had a stroke and everything like that. But Bret Hart's another one. Bret Hart would be a dream for me because that's a guy that i looked up to when i was a kid that's a guy that helped get me into this sport just from an interest perspective and that's a guy to this day i could text brett right now and be like what's up bretsky i have a question i need some advice and he'll let me hit me back up like right away. So much love to him. Gotta mention him. And there's just, I think we have a pretty wealthy locker room when it comes to talent right now.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So there's a lot of people that I would love. I'd love to get in there with Gunther. He's the champ on Raw. Love to mix it up with my boy Cody. But as far as the legends go, the ones that probably aren't going to happen, but their dream matches are Austin's up there with Austin's number one with the bullets. That's dope.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Did you always want to be a wrestler? Did you did you did you play sports growing up? Did you know watching this like this is the direction that I want to go and I want to be in this sport? Yeah, I I played baseball when I I tried out for my football and wrestling team when I was in high school, but they told me I had to cut my hair and I, I, I, I, I was like, and now I, and now I look in every jock in the world, just got like a wild Mohawk. And I'm like, that was me when I was 14. Like, why wouldn't you let me on the team? What the heck? Um, I didn't, uh, I, I grew up, I like to say I was economically challenged, you know? So like most
Starting point is 00:48:06 of the sports were pretty expensive. Couldn't play hockey because I couldn't afford skates or pads or sticks. Baseball was pretty cheap. And then everything, I was a catcher. Everything changed for me when I had to get glasses. The mask wouldn't fit over my Coke bottle glasses and my parents wouldn't spend the money for contacts. So my baseball career was cut short. Wow. WrestleMania 41 is in Las Vegas. You say Raw is after the Netflix special that you have with Rollins.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I say that his name all the time too. Don't worry about it, man. Let me ask you this because like a lot of times we see these big matches, but there are other matches in between that you're wrestling. So how do you prepare? How do you like, because you're traveling at least two,
Starting point is 00:48:58 I'm assuming 200 plus days a year, correct? Yeah. Yeah. Um, definitely used to be back in the day. Now things have changed, you know, and things have changed because of these big TV deals, you know, this big Netflix deal, uh, the, the money that was in wrestling used to be kind of driven by
Starting point is 00:49:16 live events. So we would do a TV on a Monday, but I'd be on the road Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we would record SmackDown on a Tuesday. So I, I would be on the road five days a Monday, but I'd be on the road Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We would record SmackDown on a Tuesday. So I would be on the road five days a week, six days a week. And that's on top of all the press and everything else you're doing. Nowadays, it's a lot less. I think it's better. I think it's better for all the athletes. But you wind up, I think, missing out on those live shows where you're just wrestling for fans. You're not necessarily wrestling for TV. You do build up a callus, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:51 And we're kind of missing that right now. At least I know I am. We just did a Christmas loop most recently over the holidays where, you know, I was in Pittsburgh doing the Netflix thing for the football game. And then we went to Madison Square Garden, went back to Pittsburgh, went to Baltimore, I was in Pittsburgh doing the Netflix thing for the football game. Yes. And then we went to Madison Square Garden, went back to Pittsburgh, went to Baltimore,
Starting point is 00:50:09 cut over to Chicago, and then down to Houston for TV. And that is my bread and butter. Being on the road, hanging out with the boys, getting to interact with fans. You just have a lot, I don't want to say more fun, because TV can be fun, but TV is more of a high pressure, you know, situation. CM, would you say that this, the wrestling now is more conducive for a family as opposed to what in the past when you had to do all that traveling and you got a wife or you got
Starting point is 00:50:38 a significant other or you got kids, this world we live in now, I should say you live in now is more conducive for a family. Oh, 100%. If you're an active wrestler, yeah. I used to be on the road. And I looked at it like it was easy for me because it's still a challenge. But I was young and I was single. I didn't have any kids.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I felt like I didn't have any responsibilities. I bought a house. I was just never in it. I'd lock it and leave it. You know what I mean? And then I could stay, you know, if we had a loop that ended in San Francisco and the next one started in LA, I would stay in California. Right. Um, guys who had marriages and kids, I, I, I don't know how they did it. And a lot of them didn't because we look at the wreckage of the past and like, we see a lot of, a lot of broken marriages and marriages and you know alienated kids and stuff like that um you know but today is
Starting point is 00:51:30 much more conducive for like a family unit and like if when it's all said and done and you eventually retire you hang it up where do you see yourself training the next generation working behind the scene like triple h or maybe starting your own. Where do you see yourself? Training the next generation, working behind the scene like Triple H, or maybe starting your own promotion? What do you think? Oh, no. If I start my own promotion, I want you to find me wherever I am and just kick my ass. That's about the worst idea, man. Um, no, I, I do think there is a, there's an avenue for me to continue to be in the business, uh, behind the scenes helping.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Um, but I, I think if you're worth your weight, you're doing that now, you know, I, I think on, on a football team, on a hockey team, on a baseball team, there's the veterans that help bring in the, the, the, the new talent, the young guys. Right. And they help, you know, move things along. But three parts to a career, right? You start, and to me, that's when you learn. There's the middle part.
Starting point is 00:52:36 That's where you earn. And the third part is return. Now you give back. So I would definitely look forward to that third act and giving back to the business to me has given me so much. CM, we want to thank you. Tomorrow marks the premiere of WWE Raw on Netflix. Catch all the action at 8 p.m. Eastern. CM Punk, thank you for joining Nightcap. We greatly appreciate that, man. Good luck. Now, when we tune in, and we talk to you in a couple of months, now we want to make sure that you've done
Starting point is 00:53:08 what you say you're going to do, like you're going to take care of business. I promise you. I promise you, brother, 100%. Yeah, I'm walking into the Inuit Dome tomorrow night, and I'm walking out a winner, and I'm going to have myself a big steak afterwards after kicking Seth Rollins' ass.
Starting point is 00:53:23 It's going to be fun. And let me tell you, if at any point you need a partner, tag team with that. I'm always available. Let's go. As long as your last name's not McCaskey, you're my Huckleberry. Alright, I got you. I got you.
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Starting point is 00:59:24 hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, how's my lighting? Is it cool? Your lighting is good. But the light went out on your team playoff chances. Come on, man. That's not necessary. I'm just trying to hide you're going to run me my money.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Okay. I told you what I wanted. I told you I could run you your money but can you please be realistic about the currency I'm being realistic What is Buffalo Nichols? That's not your concern I want you to go to the bank And tell the cashier
Starting point is 00:59:56 You would like $4,000 in Buffalo Nichols That's what I want you to do We in 2025 Technology I don't care if we're in 42. Let me finish. Technology has advanced to a point where I can send you your money. You can get it in less than two minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I can Apple pay. I can Venmo. You ain't that fast. Huh? You ready to run me my money? Yeah. How? I'm going to Apple pay it to your phone number.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I don't have Apple Pay. If you have an iPhone, you have Apple Pay. It's a feature that's already integrated into the phone. I don't have it. I don't want no features. I don't want nobody having it. Listen, Ocho. All I ask, I don't ask for much, Lord.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Y'all know me. Y'all know me. I don't ask for much. Now, you see? I'm trying to get you money, right? I want Ocho pay. That means Ocho run me mine. 4K. Buffalo Nichols.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Chad, you don't want his money, man. I want my money. No, you don't. I want my daddy records. I'm giving you... I want my daddy records. I'm giving you all the want my daddy records. I'm giving you all the options trying to pay you and you are... Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You're refusing payment. I'm trying to figure out how you're going to give me options on my money. What are they doing in there? Hold on. I'm giving you the option to get your money
Starting point is 01:01:19 on how I can pay it. Oh, so you don't mind if I throw me another swig, do you? I would be drunk for the night over. Listen. Listen, I want you to't mind if I throw me another swig, do you? I would be drunk for the night over. Listen. Listen, I want you to do...
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm going to do me a favor. Listen, do me a favor. Get all the drinking you can out the way. Because come next week, when y'all leave Buffalo, y'all flying straight from Buffalo, I'm going to have
Starting point is 01:01:39 the trash bags for you. I'm going to help y'all pack. You're going straight from Buffalo, straight to Cancun. Matter of fact, no. Y'all going to Aruba. Y'all going to Aruba because the elevation in Aruba is just like Colorado.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Y'all got to help. Guess what? Y'all got an early start. Y'all got an early start. Listen, we, okay, if we got an early start, we'll meet you there. Y'all going to meet us there next week. That's all that matter. Okay. Ocho, as a matter of start, we'll meet you there. Y'all gonna meet us there next week. That's all that matter. Okay. Ocho, as a matter of fact, we want to play something for the chat. Hey, chat, take a listen to this.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Nah. You can hear the tone in my voice. And if you listen to my delivery, you know I mean business. Now, you can put it on the floor. You were scared to bet the last game because I knew I was going to double up on my mother. I bet you a stack. I bet you a stack we beat the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:02:28 You owe me three. Okay. We'll put it on the floor then. There it is. Saw it coming. I saw it coming. He didn't know I saw him, Jack. You want me to do a trap?
Starting point is 01:02:41 I want to be betting a thousand or what? Betting a thousand. See how I did that? See how I did that? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Listen. Listen. I lost the bet. I'm trying to pay you your money and you're refusing to take it. No, I'm not. I told you how I want my money. You can't do that. I don't got nothing to do with no Buffalo Nichols.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I don't know what that is. I've never heard to do with no Buffalo Nichols. I don't know what that is. I've never heard of the currency called Buffalo Nichols. Go to the bank. They know exactly what it is. As a matter of fact, you know what, Ocho? I want 4,000 in traveler's checks. I'm going to be traveling. I'll go on a vacation. I want traveler's checks.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You know what that is. Okay, how about this? How about I send your money to Ash and let Ash pay it? Your ass ain't got nothing to do with this. How you gonna... Chat, y'all hear this, man? This man told me I'm sending my money to somebody else.
Starting point is 01:03:34 What? But listen... Who's sending money to an intermediary? Now, I told this man, money out of sight, call the pipe. Wait, listen... Let me go upstairs and get that thing. Money out of sight... Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Hold on. Listen, money out of sight, call the fight. Wait, listen. Let me go upstairs and get that thing. Money out of sight.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Hold on. Listen, money out of sight, call the fight because I'm trying to pay you money. You don't want your money because you're asking for your money in ways that I can't accommodate those. Can't come from the Latin word cannot.
Starting point is 01:03:57 The inability to do something. You have the ability to take your black ass to the bank and get me my money. Not run me my money not run me my body i know this day was coming i just think that was coming you remember last week how you loaded your a chat y'all remember that y'all jumped up in the chat oh you can't say foot or ball this man can't use
Starting point is 01:04:25 nothing with the word. I don't know what French I gonna do. She can't go to no play date. She ain't got no play time. Hey, she can't go to the playground.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You can't play PlayStation. You can't go to the playground. Play what? Play time? Yeah. Hey, I don't want to hear you say nothing about no hey
Starting point is 01:04:45 and you better not say offseason you can't even say offseason hey hey that's funny that's a good one hey listen
Starting point is 01:04:53 enjoy yourself though enjoy yourself enjoy yourself you got you got your beanie on man you got your beanie on and you got
Starting point is 01:05:04 you got your glasses on, too. You ain't gonna be able to get... Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. You doing a lot for... For a man that ain't winning no game today, you doing a lot of talking. I don't know why you
Starting point is 01:05:11 doing so much talking. Ah, hell, dog. Well, your head that got big, huh? Bad. That didn't see me by size. Hold on. Let me see what size helmet this is.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Because I was like a seven and a three quarters. God damn. Well, you had that Johnny Bravo helmet, huh? I don't know what size. I don't know if this is real. See, we have all these shirts. We had Rydell. We had Rydell's. Bike or Rydell? Yeah. see we have all these shirts we had Ryder we had
Starting point is 01:05:45 we had Ryder bike or Ryder I had a bike in college a bike is super old school it's the same thing I can't even get this one right hey
Starting point is 01:06:02 what size finic cap you wear? 10? Huh? What size fitting cap you wear? I just told you, 7 quarters. Nah, nah, it ain't nah. There ain't no nah. Well, you about to tell.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I tell you what, my head, once you get, I got the big head. That's what happens because I'm wearing this bed. I got the big head. So once I get my money, it'll go there. Well, actually, I've'm going to spend. I got the big head. So what if I get my money to go there? Well, actually, I've been trying to pay you your money for 30 minutes and you refuse.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Maybe, how about I just give you your money to somebody in the chat? No. Hold on. You ain't bet somebody in the chat?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Run me by, I don't know. I'm trying to run it to you. Apple Pay, Venmo, Cash App. I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:44 come on. It wasn't no liquor that killed no bill. It didn't even take its breath. A little green harness wouldn't have built no the ticket will build a bill. You know what they say, Jack? They say brandy dandy, but liquor's quicker.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You got PayPal? I ain't got no pals. So I damn sure ain't got to pay who he is. Y'all need to run that to me. Oh, Brad. Ocho, traveler's check. I'm going on vacation.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I've been advised that you're not supposed to take cash, so I want traveler's checks. I'm going to let y'all decide. How should Ocho pay me my money? You don't want
Starting point is 01:07:32 that money, man. Why am I left there? You don't want your money, because I could have been... I could have been hit sin. I could have been typed in four and three zeros and hit send. I could have been typed in foe and three zeros and hit send. Hello.
Starting point is 01:07:50 What a man talking. I hear a lot of talking. It ain't no money, Cindy. What about it? What about it? Make the money right, Ocho. Make the money right. I saw it last week.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I said, hey, money gone card hunt. I need that money. Woo. As a matter of fact, Ocho, I want $4,000 in Bitcoin. I don't know how many Bitcoins I can get with 4K, but I want 4K in Bitcoin. Listen, I don't deal with it. Give me $4,000 and a bit of honey. I want $4,000 and a bit of something.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I don't deal in digital currency. I have money. Well, it don't look like you deal in any currency because I ain't got my money. Cash app, Venmo, PayPal, or Apple Pay. Those are the only ways I can... Oh, so I don't have those apparatuses. Yes, you do.
Starting point is 01:08:42 It's 2025. Don't tell me you don't have any of those services it's impossible and if you don't have them it's uncivilized and you got to get a woman in your life no now i got to get a woman in my life because you owe me four thousand dollars so what i'm supposed to do buy what woman can i buy No, I said get a woman in your life so you can get a little bit of structure so I can see your money. I got structure.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I'm plenty structured. I want my money. How do you structure you don't have Apple Pay? You don't have Venmo. You don't have... I ain't got... As a matter of fact,
Starting point is 01:09:15 you know what I want, Ocho? I want $4,000 on a debit card. One of them government debit cards. EBT credit. That's what I want. I want an EBT debit card
Starting point is 01:09:25 4k on it run me that I don't want no Western Union I don't got no Apple Pay I ain't got no Orange Pay I ain't got no none of that I ain't got no Venmo I ain't got no Zelle
Starting point is 01:09:43 I ain't got no PayPal I don't have none of those everybody knows that okay do me a favor okay well let me see I'm going to my phone you have a
Starting point is 01:09:50 you have a where's Apple Pay on my phone you have a team of people can you ask ask Jordan to ask ask to set up
Starting point is 01:09:57 Apple Pay for you real quick I'm gonna see huh I'm gonna see your money no I want 4,000 in food stamps
Starting point is 01:10:03 I want an old school book No. I want 4,000 in food stamps. I want an old school book. I want 25 $65 books. Matter of fact, I got somebody out here in Miami to get some books for you now, if you're serious. I don't think
Starting point is 01:10:19 they got anything there. You got it? Jordan's trying to find it. Okay. Let me see your money real quick. Hey, listen. Money at a site called The Fight, and I don't want to have to jump on you
Starting point is 01:10:34 because I jump on you like a chicken on a June bug, man. Okay, here's my wallet. Okay. So it's your phone number, right? Boarding passes. Hold on. All I got is I got Delta airline passes and I got Delta airline
Starting point is 01:10:54 and United airline passes. Let me know if it's okay to send the money now. No, it ain't okay. Because I don't know nothing about that. Ocho, why you just can't do right by me, man? I'm trying. Let me pay my debt.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Let me pay my debt. I'm going to send it right now. I ain't got it, Ocho. I don't have that on my phone. I don't know how to get it out for pay. It's already in the phone. It's built into the phone. It is not built into the phone.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I'm going to see right now. I'm going to send it in. First of all, it's going to kick it out because I ain't got it. You know what? You're not registered for real
Starting point is 01:11:32 because it's not even coming up. I told you that. Oh, you were serious. You thought I was lying? Set it up real quick so I can send you money. I ain't going to be able to do that. Because I ain't got no email.
Starting point is 01:11:43 How can I send it up when I don't have email? Okay, here. This is the deal. Okay. This is the deal. Before tonight's show, if you don't have someone on your team, set up so I can pay you tonight before tonight's show.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And the chat can hear. Chat, you've been here for 30, 40 minutes. I've been trying to pay on. He refuses to accept my money in the ways that I can deliver the currency in which I have to pay on. He refuses to accept my money in the ways that I can deliver the currency in which I have to pay him. Hey, if the show ends and you ain't got your money, then I can't pay you after the night.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Whoa, Ocho, Ocho. How did you do that? I'm trying to pay you. Ocho, I don't have email. So in order to fit that up, don't you have to have an email account? Okay, well, give me somebody else's email that's in there. No, why would I do that?
Starting point is 01:12:30 You just said giving somebody power of attorney is a wrong thing. Now you want me to give somebody so they can get my money. Listen, but these are people that are part of your team. These are people that you trust. These are people that you confide in. I'm Team Shannon. Huh? Team Shannon.
Starting point is 01:12:46 All right. the people that you can fight in. I'm Team Shannon. Team Shannon. Alright. Listen, after the night, you're going to have to get it in blood. It's your choice. What's that song Beyonce sang? Sweet dreams are beautiful nightmares. I think I'm the sweet dream part.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Turn the lights down. Hey, boy, you sure feeling good I want you to enjoy this moment though I want you to enjoy it won't be like this next week what you mean next week I ain't promised tomorrow what you talking about next week
Starting point is 01:13:23 I ain't promised tomorrow alright hold on Ocho, I ain't promised tomorrow. Right. What are you talking about next week? I ain't promised tomorrow. All right. No. Hold on, hold on. All that, all that. I heard you. You said football. I said, Ocho, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:13:38 No, no, no. Okay, Ocho. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Ocho. I'm sorry. First, we want to thank CM Punk for joining us. Go check out tomorrow, WWE Raw on Netflix. The action starts at
Starting point is 01:13:49 8 p.m. Eastern Time. Ah. 38 to nothing. They didn't even pinch nobody. She don't want no puppy. She want a big dog. Put it in my pocket and pull a tin ball.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Matter of fact, you know what I think? Listen, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Chat with y'all thing. And it's no... Oh, that's what she told me. She said, hey, she told me, she said, look here, I need six and two. Height, gotta be a six.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Weight, gotta be a two. I like that. I said, so you want a big dog? I went, okay. Okay. I'm gonna be drunk by the end of the night. I'm gonna drink with you. Whoa! I don't
Starting point is 01:14:40 drink with people that owe me money. Y'all drinking my stash. No. No. I'm talking about my water. Listen. Why you drinking water? I'm going to sleep good tonight. Let me go ahead and set my
Starting point is 01:14:56 alarm just in case. Make sure I don't oversleep. Hey. Hey. George, just press the code to come in, the ball. Do not disturb me. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I don't know why I feel like the Chiefs purposely didn't try and win that game because they didn't want to face the Bengals. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I really think that. If the Bengals wanted to be in the playoffs, win more games in September, win games in October, win games in November. They're up there talking, there are a lot of teams rooting for against us. So I want to know Bengals fans, Bengals players,
Starting point is 01:15:37 were you rooting for or against the Broncos? Were you rooting for or against the Dolphins? So in other words, teams rooting against y'all, what were y'all doing today? Were y'all cheering for them? Did y'all want the Broncos to win or did y'all want the Broncos to lose?
Starting point is 01:15:51 So you were rooting against the team. Did you want the Dolphins to win or did you want the Dolphins to lose? So you were rooting. Who won the game, the Dolphins or the Jets? The Jets won. Okay, I told you the Jets were going to win.
Starting point is 01:16:04 The Chiefs and I told you the Chiefs I told you Broncos would win the Chiefs purposely did this to sabotage us having the opportunity to go now it is our fault you sabotaged yourself
Starting point is 01:16:13 our destiny should have been in our own hands we shouldn't be having to rely on another team to win to allow us to get to where we need to get to
Starting point is 01:16:21 now that's our fault hope it y'all wishing on another man's downfall. Oh, Boat. Ooh, Boat. 26-29. 3-21.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Boat toves. Boat. Yeah. Sutton, 5-96 and long 47 touchdown. Marvin Mills Jr., 5-51. Two doves. D-Vale caught that rookie shake. Boat for 50.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Javante Williams, three for 50. We did a number on y'all. And we ran it 43 times for a buck 58. The Chiefs didn't even try. Whoa. Why you? I'm just saying. I hate when somebody else measures.
Starting point is 01:17:04 What did you guys do? Why were you hoping for the Chiefs? I ain't never said, I don't root for no other team. If I'm on a team. Oh, I didn't say I was rooting for anybody. I just said who was supposed to win the game. They didn't even try. Did y'all try to win the game against the Patriots the first game of the season?
Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah. The 22 players that played for the Chiefs today ought to be ashamed of themselves. And when they watch film, when they watch film and you look at the name on the back of that jersey and you look at the abysmal effort and output you put out today, you got zero points. Zero points in an NFL game. We're supposed to be the best of the best in the world.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Y'all not. Embarrassing. All I know is the broncos won 10 games they earned the right to be in the playoffs y'all didn't win 10 games y'all don't deserve to be in the playoff that's all i'm saying no joke i ain't bad at you nothing like what happened when we played your broncos didn't matter i'm asking you what happened we played your broncos y'all won okay i'm just making sure won the battle lost the, I'm just making sure. Won the battle, lost the war. I'm just making sure.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Let that sink in. Y'all had to lead the league in touchdown passes and yards. Had to lead it when the guy won the Triple Crown and home for the first time in history. Never want to tell that. In history, a Triplecom winner is at home. Guess where y'all going to be next week? I don't know about no next week.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I ain't promised next week. I'm talking about right now. I'm going to let you have your moment. I know you're being quite hostile, Ocho. You're scaring me. I'm really scared right now. Oh, my gosh. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I want you to enjoy your moment. No disrespect to anybody in the chat that's a Broncos fan. You know how I feel about you. I tell you all the time. I love you. Regardless of what team you cheer for, regardless of what team you root for, I will always love you and always have been very respectful. Never malicious.
Starting point is 01:19:02 This is all great fun and competition for the team that i believe in and play for i'm afraid i'm really afraid oh joe i'm i'm really afraid right now you're scaring me calm down will you in no way calm down okay in no way i'm not that serious buddy you know i i'm really i'm being serious i really a nice guy, but you're scaring me, okay? Just pay me my money. Just pay me what you owe me. You owe me my money.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I bet you, had I lost, I would have paid you. Actually, if I had lost, I mean, if you had lost, I would have said, you know what? Just zero me, zero me, zero me half. You ain't got to send me the whole thing. Guess what? That's something you won't have to say, because I did lose. So you'll have to say, zero me, Zell me, Zell me half. You ain't got to send me the whole thing. Guess what? That's something you won't have to say. Because I did lose. So you'll have to say, Uncle Zell me, run me mine.
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