Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lions walk-off, Cowboys are terrible, Jets destroyed

Episode Date: November 11, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions improving to 8-1 on the season after beating CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans with a walk-off 52 yd FG on Sunday Night Football despite Goff’s 5 INT performance. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles destroying Cooper Rush, Trey Lance and the Dallas Cowboys 34-6, Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets getting blown out by Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals to fall to 3-7 on the season and much more!04:30 - Show starts05:00 - Intro06:45 - Lions v Texas15:30 - Eagles v Cowboys45:20 - Chiefs v Broncos50:00 - 49ers beat Bucs56:30 - Steelers beat Commanders01:03:37 - Cards beat Jets(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, rookie kicker, Jake Bates, walked it off with a 52-yarder. He tied it up with a 58-yarder as the Lions rallied to beat the Texans 26-23. Jared Goff threw five, one, two, three, four, five interceptions. Cinco. Cinco interceptions. This one is going to hurt because there's no way you're supposed to lose a game, Ocho, at home when the opposing team turns it over five times.

Houston held a 23-7 lead at the break, only to watch it evaporate. The Texans lost three of their last four games, fall to six and four. Six and four, they're still atop the AFC South, and they're getting Nico Collins back next week, which should help. But Nico wasn't the reason why they lost him.

Not having him wasn't the reason. Big question about this team. See the remains after tonight. Yeah. You got to win this game, Ocho. You have to. You're at home. You're up.

But CJ, bro, you can't come come out at a half time and throw a pick oh joe how many times have people uh a fan a listening audience a viewing audience how many times have you heard ocho and i say if you're late with that out ball it's gonna get picked if the guy can catch now if he can catch he's gonna pick it if he can't catch you're gonna knock it down but it's not gonna be in completionion when you're late. He's in a cool position. So that tells you automatically, you can't be late with it. Right. Because he's driving, Ocho. He's already that way. He's driving.

And if anything, if you're going to miss, don't miss inside. Miss wide and outside. It's incomplete out of bounds. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be one or the other. You can't leave it inside. It is going the other way. Give Carlton Davis a lot of credit because he made a heck of a play on the other. You can't leave it inside. It is going the other way. Give Carlton Davis a lot of credit because he made a heck of a play on the ball.

He had two outstanding interceptions. I don't know why CJ on the second the first interception put so much air on it. Ocho, what does he think? That Carlton Davis was going to give up on the play? You know what? I think, was it the pressure? No, he rolled out of the pocket.

No, he rolled out of the pocket. The one he threw in of the pocket the one he threw in the end zone that carl davis got yeah they picked off their tank there was no pressure there was no pressure on him he had an easy throw he even directed and told him i don't know why he didn't put put it more on the line because carl davis sees that he's beat so he's running full speed The last thing you want him to do is have an opportunity to break that ball up when he's that wide open. I know you don't want to overshoot him, but you got to put it more on the line. Yeah, we still have more questions than answers about the Houston Texans. They've lost three of their last four.

The turnovers are starting to mount. CJ is starting to turn the ball over a lot more than he even did last year. And they're a good team. They're a really good team. They didn't run the ball particularly well tonight, give Detroit credit, because they got a good defensive front. Now, they played that game without Z, Zedaria Smith. But when you look at McNeil and Pascal, they clogged that middle.

They do a great job of collapsing the interior. Now, when they get Z, he's going to rain the heat off the edge. Yes. It's going to be nasty, especially on passing downs. And their secondary is improving game by game. Branch and Joseph and those guys, they're getting better and better and better. They're getting better. We got to get Terry on Arnold to be a little bit more patient.

Be a little more patient. Look back for the ball. Too many pass interference plays. Too many holding penalties. Every single game, he's getting called for something. Sometimes two and three a game. They might have got him on that last play on that third down. They could have easily called him. Yeah, they could have called him easily. They last play that on that third on that third down

they could have easily called yeah they could have called it easy they let it go though they let it go they didn't want that to be the deciding factor you know um in the game in the game but he i mean he got to where you got to work on that you know using your eyes man playing playing with your eyes you can get instincts stop being so handsy and look back for the ball a little bit look back for the ball some of them you know it for the ball. Some of them, you know, it's different. If you look back, I know most DBs, they panic when they can't see and they see the receiver's eyes get big. If you look back for the ball early, man, and keep yourself in position,

nine times out of ten, you'll be able to make a play on the ball, and most of the time, you'll be able to pick it. Yep. And I think the thing is, Ocho, I'm watching this game. The Lions offensive coordinator got afraid to call his game. They started just handing the ball off to Gibbs and handing the ball off to Montgomery. I'm like, bro, it's 37.

Y'all at the 50-yard line and y'all hand the ball off? A straight dive? Because they had gotten, I mean, I'm looking at some of those interceptions. Ain't no way in hell golf thought those guys were open. Them guys wasn't even close to being open, Ocho. I'm like, bro, look, I get it. You know, it's kind of like, it's like anything else, Ocho.

You know, you get a touchdown, it's easy to get another touchdown. You know, you get a sack, it's easy to get another sack, because normally we say things happen in bunches. You know, you get a bunch of sacks, you get a bunch of catches, you get a sack, it's easy to get another sack. Because normally we say things happen in bunches. You know, you get a bunch of sacks. You get a bunch of catches. You get a bunch of touchdowns. Same thing with interceptions. Guy throws one and all of a sudden he throws another.

Damn, that's two. And another. And in his mind, he's like, well, hey, I might as well just keep slinging it. But the Lions and the coordinators said, hell nah. Because you're killing us. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely. That's why he us. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. That's why he stopped.

That's why he stopped calling the normal offense in which we're seeing. So how can we get the ball out of golf stands until we feel he's a little bit more comfortable? They started screening him, screening him to death. They threw the swing. They had Gibbs on one side, on the opposite of the quarterback, and they run it behind and throw it to him. Sewell gives him a great block. They run a

trail break screen to Armond St. Brown for the touchdown. They started doing everything they could to, hey, one, two, three, throw the ball. That's perfect, though. You know what Ben Johnson is doing when he does that? You know what? Let's get him comfortable again. Let's get him in rhythm with some easy throws,

get the ball out of his hands, and get him a little... I don't want him to think, Coach O, because he's thinking too much now. Yeah, get him in rhythm with some easy throws, get the ball out of his hands, and get him a little... I don't want him to think, Coach O, because he's thinking too much now. Get out right away. 1, 2, 3, hey, scream. 1, 2, 3, jailbreak. 1, 2, 3, quick out. 1, 2, 3, stick route. I don't want you thinking, because you're

killing us. As a matter of fact, you're probably hurting your damn self, too, because you don't say, hey, I was thinking about something. I hope you don't hurt yourself. I'm looking, I'm like, bro, what are you doing? What do you see?

But this is a good team. Mocho, when you can go on the road and you turn the ball over five times and you still come away with a victory, this is a good team. This is a very good team. They're very well coached. They did not panic.

You know, uh, uh, uh, Campbell, I couldn't hear what he said, but I think he, I could try to read his lip. I think he said about defense need to come out here

and shut them down the first drive and right on cue. Carl Davis gets a pick. And now all of a sudden we got, now we got a ball game. What a lead

that could have been extended. It could have been 26 to seven. It could have been 30 to seven. Now all of a sudden, boom. But hell, if I'm not mistaken, what'd you call him? Come back and give it right back to him. He threw an interception. He did not

play well today. Not at all. It was a sloppy game. It's funny. It probably makes no sense. It was a sloppy ass game, but it was a good game at the same time. Yes. It's funny. This probably makes no sense. It was a sloppy ass game, but it was a good game at the same time. Yes. It's weird. Texas is going to

be kicking themselves. You have a 16-point lead at home. You take the ball away five times. You only give it away two times. That's going to hurt. They didn't capitalize enough on those turnovers. No. You got to capitalize

on them turnovers. You capitalize on one or two of those. But you good, boy. Here's the thing. On some of those turnovers that they got, CJ turned around and gave it right back to them. Back to them. Everything evened out. It did. here's the thing on some of those turnovers that they got CJ turned around and gave it right back to him back to him yeah so

everything evened out it did so the Lions walk it off rookie Jake Bates he kicked a 58 yarder to tie the game and then at 23

and then Fairburn he misses a 58 yarder that would have given them a three point lead. Golf leads them down. And here's the rookie trots out there on the field. Kicks a 52 yard as time expires, as they win the game. The Lions go on the road, walk it off 26, 23 over the Texans. The Lions on the best record in the NFC with a record of 8-1. The Eagles go on the

road and drub the Cowboys. Cowboys set a dubious record. They have now trailed by at least 20 points in their last five home games. That's the first time in NFL history that's happened. The Sunlight Robbed CD of a touchdown.

Remember, the engineer advised Jerry not to build a stadium in that direction of the setting sun. A reporter asked CD, are you in favor of a curtains? CD said yes. Reporter said, will you tell Jerry that? I mean, y'all are doing my job for me right now.

But Jerry had, did you see the quote when Jerry said about the thing they asked him about it he said well why don't we build a damn new stadium he's like everybody knows the son he's frustrated so Jerry kind of snapped a little bit but hey it is what it is

Jerry Jones won't fire Mike McCarthy he says he will not make an in-season coaching move I don't know. You think so? This is what Jerry said. The owner's lie, though. The owner's lie. Of course. You can't hold their word.

You can't hold their word. You take that with a grain of salt. Frustrated Jerry Jones said some comments about the sun impacting the play at AT&T Stadium. That was one play. Okay, so now they lose 34-13. They got their ass kicked.

One play, Ocho. It didn't affect the entire game. A frustrated Jerry Jones had some comments about the sun impacting the play at AT&T Stadium. By the way, we know where the sun is going to be when we decide to flip the corner or not. We do know where the damn sun is going to be when we decide to flip the corner or not.

We do know where the damn sun is going to be in our own stadium. Everybody's got the same thing. Every team that comes in here has the same issues. I'm saying the world knows where the sun is. You get to know almost by a year in advance. Someone asked me about the sun. What about the sun? Where's the boom Jerry

excuse me guys man Jerry hey look here that's what happens when you're three and six your starting quarterback is done for the season that you paid 60 million dollars

you have not lived up to expectation. Yeah. There was a point in time that people said, y'all should let that go and sign Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush was 13 of 23 for 45 yards. The starting quarterback in the NFL game, Cooper Rush and Trey Lance was 19 of 29,

no, 17 of 29 for 66 yards. Hey, you know that playbook? You know how much that playbook shrink when you don't have your starting quarterback? Boy, like this, boy. Playbook will be about this big.

Listen, there's only so much you can do. There's only so much you can do. There's only so much you can do because there's a reason a person is a starter and there's a reason a person is a backup. If the backup was the main thing, then the main thing would have been the main thing and you wouldn't have been the backup. So when you factor in

Sacks, Ocho, the Cowboys was 17 of 29 for 49 yards. NFL starting quarterbacks passed the ball in four quarters in an NFL game for less than 50 yards. That sound

bad, huh? They had 97 yards rushing on 24 carries. God damn, boy. But Jerry did a great job of assembling this roster that's what he told you he got upset and threatened to have a guy

removed from his job because he asked it Jerry said can't nobody do a better job than me well if can't nobody do a better job than you the question is Jerry let me ask you a question if somebody else

other than you had built this roster, would he still have this job? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. They would have been fired probably two games ago. The problem that Jerry has is that he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room

and he wants to be, but he doesn't realize he shouldn't be. Jerry knows just enough to be dangerous. He knows just enough to F up his team. Exhibit A. Exhibit B. Exhibit C. I like to

put all of those. He knows just enough to be dangerous. You know what? Hold on on i i'm at a later date i'm not sure when i could use that oh cho that is pathetic yeah it's bad it's bad listen normally i would pile on the Cowboys right now, but there's really nothing else I can say. I think for myself, I feel bad for the Cowboys players. I feel bad for the fans. I continuously say this.

I've said it the past three weeks, and nothing seemed to change. I thought maybe things would turn around. Michael Parsons came back today. I thought maybe they might have had a chance. Maybe they could have made it close. Maybe they could have made the game, they would have had a chance. Maybe they could have made it close. Maybe they could have made it, the game, they would have competed a little better.

But, I didn't get none of the above. No, I don't feel bad. As long as Jerry's the helm, I'm not going to feel bad. Wait, you don't feel bad at all for the players? Not as long as Jerry's calling the shots. Nope, absolutely not.

Because how could I feel bad for the baby snakes if I don't like the snake? How can I feel bad for his players if the guy that's in charge, I really don't have a whole lot of use for? And everybody knows why. I make no secrets about that.

Okay, okay. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, 2016. Yeah, do I, when I see Michael O, I want you to tilt your camera down a little bit. Mine? Yeah.

Yeah. Why, my hair, what, my hair big? Yeah. You can see me now? Yeah, we want to make sure we have enough room. Oh, okay, okay. I thought you were trying to go, I thought you were trying to make fun of my head or something, man. Nah, nah, nah.

Look, like I said, the only really Cowboys that I've ever seen, you know, was probably Micah, Diggs, I mean, Dak, his rookie year. Right. But other than that, I don't really, you know, hey, I don't really go anywhere to really see them. Every once in a while, I might be out here in Vegas and see a fight or something. But other than that, I'm not really going anywhere that I'm going to bump into a whole lot of NFL players, Ochoa, or for that matter, any professional athlete for that matter.

But nah, nah. And the thing is that it couldn't happen to a better team. But Jerry don't care. Also, he loses no money because guess what? The fans are going to show up and believe that they're going to run the table, make the playoffs, and win the Super Bowl. Every year? Every.

You can't tell the Cowboy fans they're not going to run the table, win the division, and make the playoffs. You can't convince them that. Yeah. So, I ain't going to be the one to tell y'all bad news, but y'all not going to the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I think y'all might as well go ahead and start tanking and try to get a higher pick.

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Right. You need a corner opposite of Diggs. You don't want that kind of, you don't want a hundred plus million dollars in their cap space. Right. You need a corner opposite of Diggs. You need a D tackle. You need a middle linebacker. Okay, you need offensive line. Your offensive line isn't very good. I think that should be their first pick. If they pick early,

they should get an offensive lineman. I like Diggs. I like Bland. I'm not sure, Deron Bland not back yet, huh? Yeah, he's back. I think he's back. I like Bland. I'm not sure. Deron Bland not back yet, huh? Yeah, he back. I think he back. Ain't Bland back? Yeah, he back.

Okay, yeah. He was having a hell of a season last year, man, before he got injured. Jerry says he will not make an in-season coach. He was out today, though, Ocho. He was out today. He's back, but he was out today. Right. Check this out, Ocho.

Yes, sir. Bill's trade for Mark Cooper, the same week he came in, he scored a touchdown. Steve's trade for Mike Williams, the same week he comes in, he scored a touchdown. Chief's trade for DeAndre Hopkins, he scored a touchdown. Yeah. Jerry got bingo.

He was inactive today. What? Hey, I don't know. Wait, what game we talking about? I can't wait till we get to that game. That was a good-ass game, bro. I'm going to wait for it. I mean, the Chiefs trade for Hop. He plays right away.

Bills trade for Cooper. He plays right away. Steelers trade for Mike Williams. He plays right away. Jared trades for a guy. Gave up more draft capital than any of these other guys. And these other guys are pro. D-Hop has been a multiple pro-bowl player and all pro.

Cooper has been a pro-bowl player.-Pro. Cooper has been a Pro Bowl player. Mike Williams, it missed talent. Yeah, he is. That boy traded for Jonathan Mingo. He don't even suit up. You could have waited until after the season. If you're going to leave him inactive, Ocho. Right.

I mean, that might have been the reason why they did leave him inactive. They don't feel he's been there long enough. Obviously, you got a quarterback that's not starting. The starting quarterback's not playing. You have a backup playing, so you really have no use in inserting the offense at any point. Did you see Cooper Rush today?

He's been there all this time, but he looked like he hadn't been there. So what's the difference? He don't know what the hell he's doing. Mingo don't know what the hell he's doing, so they might be perfect. Hey, just put him out there and let him wing it, huh? Hey, Mingo, you run a stop rod. He run a go Cooper Rush, he didn't pull a touchdown. That's all you got to do. Don't nobody know

what they're doing. All of them out there like a blind dog in a meat house. They smell the meat, can't see ish. Man, Cowboys are good, terrible. Hold up. They're like a blind dog in a what? A blind dog in a meat house? man that cowboy was a good terrible hold up a blind dog in a what a blind dog in a meat house they smell the meat but can't see nothing

I say boy I'm just trying to figure out how does a guy an NFL quarterback throw for 45 yards it's difficult it yards. It's difficult. It's difficult. It's difficult. You can't call the office

you want to call when you know you ain't got nothing to work with. That's what you get. Hold on. You ain't got nothing to work with. You hired all those workers. If your business is crappy because you say the employees, the workers are not doing their job, who hired them? Who hired those workers? Because Jerry quick to tell you

that he got, that's him. The buck stops with him. Everything stops on his desk. So if it's not getting done, whose fault is that? Name something that there from coaches to secretaries to whatever the case may be that does not have Jerry Jones fingerprint on it.

So when it's effed up, who we blaming? Yeah, well, shit, he gonna say it ain't him? No, he got to say that because he wanted the responsibility. He wanted the credit. See, you don't realize how good you can be as long as you don't mind who gets the credit.

That's his problem. He wants the credit, he desires the credit, he yearns for the credit because he wants people to tell him how great of a job that he's doing how could you still need to hear that at this point in your career? validation

because Ocho he has no football experience and he wants to say that, look, look at this. Other owners, Clark Hunt, Roonies, everybody. If I hire somebody, why am I going to try to do the show? Why am I going to try to produce the show when I hired Ash and I'm paying her money to do it? Why am I hiring to do all the stuff that Jordan's doing if I'm paying Jordan and all the other employees? Why am I going to tell them how to do graphics?

How am I going to tell them how to do editing? How am I going to tell the social media team to do their job if I'm paying them? If I'm telling them I'm doing their job, I need to fire them. I can save some money. Jerry, if you've got people in position to do what

you hired them to do, why are you always over there trying to do it he want everybody to see him land his helicopter on the field he want everybody to know that he talked to the team before they went out he's the first one to talk to the team after they come off the field see that's what he wants he he desires that no other owner does that i mean he is a little different he is a little different when it comes to ownership. But listen, he's stuck in his ways too at this point. Oh, yeah.

I'm sure he's heard this many a time before. Guess what other way he's stuck in? What? 28 years without going to the Super Bowl. He's stuck in that. It's about to be 29. About to be 29. It's going to be a long time.

You know how long it take the bill now who who would you know you know how long to take the bill and fix the situation that you're going on it's just multiple t is multiple pieces that you need that that that's about maybe five maybe a five or six year run six year run that would be like the shareholders getting rid of Tim Cook because they're not getting credit. Tim Cook just took the company from $350 billion, $400

billion to plus trillion. But because we're not getting any credit, we're going to get rid of him because that's what Jerry did. Yeah, basically. Basically. Basically. And then if there were rumblings, normally it's the media that already starts it. When they talk about firing a coach in season, you know that always comes from in-house?

Yeah, for sure. It always starts in-house. They purposely put that out there just to get the fire starting, get it brewing, and then the pressure, they always like to say, oh, the pressure from the outside. What would be the point of firing Mr. McCarthy at this point? Nothing's going to change.

The interim coach, ain't nothing going to change. Yeah, and you hired him. Oh, this is the guy. This guy's one. Because Mike McCarthy lied. Oh, I watched every last. This guy's one. Because Mike McCarthy lied. Oh, I watched every last one of Cowboy Snap. I've broken them down. He told Jerry that.

He was at Jerry's house. He spent the night at Jerry's house eating nachos, drinking beer. Tell him what he want. Because see, Jerry, a lot of times powerful people, Ocho, they like for you to stroke their ego. Tell them what a wonderful job they're doing. Tell them what a brilliant businessman they are. What a great general manager you are. I've broken your team down.

I think a few tweaks here and there. You have the talent. You've done a great job, Jerry, of assembling talent. The talent is here. Nobody has accumulated more Pro Bowl players, drafted more Pro Bowl players, other than the Chiefs, the Cowboys. So Jerry, you've done a great job.

Jerry said, you think so? Wow. Oh, okay. I haven't heard that. I appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate that. So he gives them the job. Mike McCarthy, he gets rid of Kellen Moore.

You know, it's too much of this fluffy stuff. They're throwing the ball. I like to run the football. I'm going to run it. If you go back and look at my Green Bay team, Mike McCarthy throws the football more than Kellen Moore ever did. Yep. But see, Kellen Moore was getting too much. They had the second best offense, one of the top

scoring offense, one of the top offensive as far as total yards. Kellen Moore was getting credit. See? too much credit they get no credit you see yeah how good could you be

I understand I'm the when it comes to Shay Shay Media I'm the front of it but I'm smart enough to know that I've hired people and put them in place

do what y'all do right sometimes I have to say nah I don't want to do that but for the most part I let them do what they do I let them do what they do.

I let CJ does what he does at Club Shea Shea. I let Ash do what she does. I let them do what you do. I'm cool. Yeah. Man. Michael Parsons feels worse for teammates like Zach Martin than he does for Mike McCarthy

you want to win games and do great things for those type of legends who put more time in and work than Mike McCarthy ever did damn I don't think he meant to say it like that I don't know what he meant he didn't mean it like that if somebody said oh Peter

had an Ocho he didn't mean to say it like that. If somebody say, oh, Peter had Ocho, he ain't mean to say it like that. Yeah. Hey, how long Mike been that old? McCarthy? Yeah. It's what? Fifth year? Fourth or fifth? 2019 or 2020? 2020. 2020.

20, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5th year. Yeah, yeah. I understand what he's trying to say. The way he worded it might not be right. It could be taken a little different, you know. What was he trying to say? Zach been there for a minute, boy. Zach been there for a minute.

And for him to be on the way out on the tail end of his career, maybe, maybe or maybe not. Yeah. But if he is going out, this is a horrible way to go. This is a horrible, this is a very, very bad way to go. Zach Martin is not what he once was. But if you're not what you once was, then everything around you has to be that much better and it's stinking up the place in all three phases whether it be offense whether it be defense hell the special teams might be bad too this is his full quote mike can leave and go wherever he

wants guys i kind of feel bad for like zach martin guys who might be on their last year or on their way out because that's who I want to hold the trophy for you want to win games that do great things for those type of legends who put more time in and work than Mike McCarthy ever did those are the kind of guys that I have so much sympathy and hurt for

now do you believe he took it out of context my god now when you believe he took it out of context my god now when you say it like that I ain't say it like that he said it like that I know but I'm saying before you just read all that I kind of

thought it might have been hey but you think he mad at me well Michael must be mad at Mike McCarthy what he mad at all? Well, Micah must be mad at Mike McCarthy. What? He mad at all that losing. Nah, even if you mad at all the losing, you don't throw your coach under the bus like that, huh? No.

Or my trip. He drove over the top of him. Yeah, I mean, the way you just read it, are you sure that's his quote? That's his quote. It's quoted. Yeah, yeah. But that's, that's,

listen, if there's anybody that can get away with it on that team, he's one of the few that can. Especially to be able to say something like that. Listen, you can pump up

your boy, Zach Martin, but there was no need to throw him. Yeah, sometimes you can pump up your guy without crapping on the other guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do that. I get what you're saying. But in the meantime, we got to get, hey, we can't leave without talking about the Eagles that put foot feeling. Jalen Hurts was 14 of 20, 202 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. Saquon Barkley did not have a big day,

but the Eagles ran the ball 38 times for 187 yards. A.J. Brown came back after he left the game last week. Five catches for a buckle nine. The 15, they had two touchdowns. Dallas Goddard had one, and Wilson had another. Jalen Hurts lost the fumble, had two turnovers, but they dominated. They dominated. The best chance they had, Zeke fumbled the ball and gave it to Matudge back.

Ocho, you know what I'm saying? He fumbled the ball, but it was a great play. Guys hit him. Gardner Johnson hit him on one side. The other guy hit him on the other. The ball pops out, goes into the end zone. DeJuan falls on it. But hey, guess what? They get the ball right back

because Jalen Hurts fumbled the football. Yeah. And they set a four-field goal. But the Eagles fairly dominated this game. They sacked the quarterback. They only sacked the quarterback three times. Hurts got sacked five times. Two by Overshawn.

Another two by Micah. The defense played a little better. After getting after the quarterbacks, they still, they're too light in the bridges to stop the run, Ocho. You can't. You can't. Everybody give them that work when it comes to running the football. Right down here.

Down here. They don't have enough. The guys, I mean, Didel had 12 for 53. Zeke had 6 for 22. Lance had 3 for 17. Man, who you going to beat rushing the ball for less than

100 yards, Ocho? Nobody. But you don't have a running game to begin with. You don't have a running game to begin with. No. You have one. And then, minus your quarterback, now you can't throw the ball either because you're using your backup.

So now you're down two times. Right. You can't throw, you can't run. What the hell are you supposed to do with it? How do y'all call the plays? Well, if you can't run it, you can't throw it, you're kind of limited on offense, Ocho.

Yeah. I mean, they only give you two options on offense. You can run it or you can throw it. Now, if you can't do either one of those, you kind of... You get what you got today, basically. I mean, if I'm the Cowboys, I would think about punting on first or second down and save myself the embarrassment. Yeah.

Because y'all... What were they on third? Hold on. Let me see what they were on. Let's see what the Cowboys were Cowboys with 3 of 14 on third down yeah they come out better

3 of 14 3 of 14 3 of 14 you know what I'm curious about I'm curious how the fans I'm curious how the fans in Dallas feel I would love I mean obviously I'm I'm not a god damn beat reporter but I would love to hear genuinely

how they feel about the season so far how they feel about Jerry and I hate using the word lies about the season so far, how they feel about Jerry and I hate using the word lies, but obviously they've been lies that they are sold and told each and every season.

I was always curious, you know, how they felt. Because it's only one way to have change. You know, if you hit somebody's pockets, that's the only way

change is going to happen. Stop showing up. Stop showing up. Stop showing up and watch what happens. They're not. I mean, you're a fan. I mean, you're loyal. I mean, you root for the Cowboys. The Cowboys in your blood, yeah.

Those wanting the Cowboys to prioritize Trey Lance's development, they're not. They're not there. I want to see us win the game, Jerry said. I want to win the game. So jerry said i want to win the game so i want to do things to win the game this is not fun this isn't pretty i thought we'd be better frankly you're the only one you're the only one that thought that you damn man so what what steps did you take to make sure you got better at stopping the run but he said he was gonna be all in i remember that quote i remember that quote in all season

well i think what he meant by that was resigning the guys that he had that cd and eventually michael parsons but ocho what couldn't they do last year stop the run what couldn't they do last year? Stop the run. What couldn't they do last year, Ocho? Run the football. So again, tell me the steps that they took in order to improve in those areas. Do what you've always done. You'll get what you've always gotten. So you brought the same guys back and said, okay, guys, we got a new D coordinator. So what we're going to do now, we're going to stop the run.

But the same personnel? Yeah. You're too light. You have to play with a lead. Your team is built to play with a lead. If you don't get the lead and a team can pound you, you see what happens. What do the 49ers do to them? Oh, boy.

What do the Eagles do to them? What do Baltimore do to them? What do the Saints do to them? Go back and look at the games. Put them in a blender. Put him in a blender. Put him in a blender. And then when there was an opportunity to improve your run game, you said he cost too much.

How much did you lose it? Let's see. Here's the thing. The Cowboys is the one team losing doesn't cost anything. So he hasn't lost anything because guess what? The ratings are still to the roof when the cowboys come on guess what it was a 3 and 16 think about it a 3 and 16 they was the number they got the number one crew at cbs they got romo and nance that should just that just

tells you yeah tell me tell me another three and six another three and five team that'll get Fox number one crew. Man, the Cowboys, if the Cowboys come on Sunday night, I don't believe they'll flex out of it. No. Because the Cowboys bring ratings. Even with them losing that? Even with them losing.

Even with them losing. That's a hell of a brand, boy. And guess what, Ocho? Watch what they do on Thanksgiving. Who they play on Thanksgiving? The Giants? And the Giants got their own problem. Talking about they need to evaluate the quarterback position. With that large ass sample size, you gotta see

Daniel Jones. You need to evaluate. Who said that? The ball? Day ball, yeah. They play the Giants, Ocho. They play the Giants. They play the Giants on Thanksgiving.

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1986 Giants. Hey, Broncos played good. Didn't I tell you? Remember we had a conversation I said, oh y'all would be surprised if the Broncos beat them. I'm not going to say nothing. They got damn Broncos D. The boys played good. Yes. They always play

the Chiefs good. Good. This is a divisional game, and most of the time when you play within the division, the games are always close. Again, the Chiefs look like they've looked the entirety of the season. Always finding a way to win. It's unfortunate, but

the Broncos should have won this game today. Obviously, it came down to a blocked field goal at the end. And I'm going to let you slide. I'm going to let you slide because I was going to say, if your team lost today, I don't want to. But listen,

listen, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't have the energy right now. You know, you know why I don't have the energy right now. So I'm going to let you slide tonight and just say that it was,

it was a good game. I mean, it was a good game. I was impressed with the Bron right now. So I'm going to let you slide tonight and just say that it was a good game. I mean, it was a good game. I was impressed with the Broncos defense. You got a heavy heart right now and a lot on your mind. I do understand. Nah, I don't got no heavy heart.

I don't know about that. You got a heavy heart. I do. Hold on. Let me take my shades off so you can see my ass. I'm good, bro. You hear me?

He don't mean it. Remember what I told you? Listen. Stay with me real quick, right? No, no, no. We're not going to do this with you. Right here. We're going to get right back to football.

You know how to compartmentalize, right? Yes. You know how to manage your expectations, right? Based on situation, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to leave it at that. Let's talk about the game.

I'm good. Patrick Mahomes, 28-42, 266, one touchdown. They did not run the ball with any conviction today. 19 rushing attempts, 57 yards. The Broncos ran the ball rushing attempts, 57 yards. The Broncos ran the ball 23 times for 78 yards. The thing that's killing the Chief, Ocho,

is that red zone. I mean, Mahomes is not as sharp as he once was. He had travel at the back of the end zone. He overthrew it. He overthrew it. Blue 80! I remember when I played quarterback, so I could empathize at the quarterback position.

Sometimes that happens when you're rushing and you panic and you don't follow through with your motion. Your mechanics aren't what they should be. Yeah. And stuff, the ball will get away from you like that when, you know, the player is wide open. And sometimes you look back at yourself or you watch it back on film and be like, how in the hell I missed something like that? Yeah, they got a situation. If I'm not mistaken, don't they got Buffalo next week in Buffalo? I think they go on the road there and got Buffalo at Buffalo next week,

if I'm not mistaken, don't you? And then they got Carolina and then they got the Panthers. Hey, there's a chance they could be 10-0, right? There's a chance they could be 12-0. When is the last time Buffalo has even beat the Chiefs? No, they're 9-0. So they're at Buffalo,

at Carolina, home to the Raiders, then at Denver. Home to the Chargers. Oh, at Cleveland. Okay. I think the game that gets them is Buffalo. I think Buffalo has them their first loss.

You think so? I do. But it's concerning me because I've seen what you call them starting to turn the ball over a little bit. Josh. Josh Allen good day yeah so but the Chiefs

stay undefeated and Ocho I remember we had a season and I think we were playing the Bears and man, they ran a tackle eligible and the guy dropped it. A tackle what? A tackle eligible

for a touchdown pass. They threw it. They had an extra tackle in. He dropped it. He was wide open? Wide open. Nope. He was wide open. Sometimes you get lucky sometimes you get lucky but the chiefs remain undefeated the only unbeaten team in the nfl best record overall best record in the afc by the score of 16 to 14 over the denver broncos the 49ers defeated the Bucs 23-20.

In the return of Christian McCaffrey, the 49ers emerged victorious with the biggest story of the side was on the sideline when a scuffle between Debo Samuel, long snapper, Tabor Pepper. After the game, Debo explained what prompted the heat exchange occurred after kicker Jake Moody's third missed field goal of the game. Normally, I don't even get like that, but just frustrated in the heat exchange occurred after kicker Jake Moody's third missed field goal of the game. Normally, I don't even get like that, but just frustrated in the heat of the battle, you know, real close game. I kind of got out of character, but I'll talk to Moody and we'll get past it. Moody responded with a rough outing by drilling a 44-yard game-winning field goal as time expired.

Gotta loosen everything up. Gotta loosen everything up. As a kicker, you got one job. Got nothing else. You do one thing five, six, seven, eight days out of the week. I'm talking about eight days. It's only seven. Yeah. All you got to do, you got one job is to kick. So when they ask of you to do that one job that you do do, you know, you're going to miss.

You're human. It's the NFL. You know, you want to be as perfect as possible. That's the reason why you practice. If you fall short of being perfect, it'd be better than most. But you can't miss three kicks. That could have cost you the game today. Three? Come on, man.

Most of the time... If you drop three footballs as a receiver, likelihood you, unless you're a number one or elite player, probably not going to be playing. But what happens if Debo fumbles you, unless you're a number one or elite player, probably not going to be playing. But what happens if Debo fumble the ball and they lose the game and the guy goes over there and grabs his face mask?

What if he drops two passes on the last drive and we lose the game and he grabs his face mask or he gets in his face? You think Debo going to be cool with that? No, probably not. So that's why you have to look. And I get it. Look, you and I both been on the sidelines. We've seen kickers miss it. We've seen

guys do things. And yeah, it's frustrating. It is extremely frustrating. But you also have to understand, now, the way football works and the football gods put you in that situation to have you drop a pass or to have you fumble the ball. They get you right every time.

They get you right every time. They get you right every time. But like I said, look, I know they're frustrated. They're not having the season that they expected. They're 5-4. I can assure you that the 49ers thought they would be better than 5-4 after nine games. Hey, but you know what's funny about the goddamn 49ers? What's that?

They always go on an effing run when it counts. This is the first time they went back-to-back games, so they could be on to something. Who do the 49ers got next two to three games, Ash? They got Seahawks at home, at Packers, at Bills. Seahawks at Packers at Bills. Oh, that's a...

Mm-hmm. Oh, a little tricky. I'm playing the Seahawks. What Seahawks team are we going to get? Man, Seahawks been... I mean, Geno been putting up big numbers, but he been turning the ball over. Yeah, Geno leading the league on passing, ain't he?

He was. Yeah, he was. I mean, Purdy's going to be up there knocking. Well, Geno had a big, I think Geno had a big game when they played Monday night. No, they were on a bye week. Seattle was on a bye. Seattle was on a bye.

But Purdy had an outstanding day. He was 25 of 36, 353. Excuse me, two touchdowns, clean game, no turnovers. He fumbled, but Jennings got it, ended up recovering it. Juwan had a good game today, buddy. He was going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Piersol had a big day. Four for 73 on a good game today, buddy. He was balling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Piersall had a big day.

Four for 73 on the touchdown, his first touchdown. Seamath came back, six catches, 66 yards. Debo was five for 62. And Kittle, great touchdown. Purdy did a great job of finding him in the back of the end zone, Ocho. He had three for 57 on the touchdown. Piersall had four for 73 on the touchdown. Yeah, I mean, but this is the type of game that Purdy needed

because they were unable to run the football. So now I got to put the ball in your hands, and you got to make it happen. Do you think McCaffrey healthy? For 19 million, yeah. Man, you know, at this point in time, Ocho, look, you don't get healthy during the season

because when you an average person and he has an injury or he has something what do you say risk yeah that's what they tell you they're going to ice you they're going to stem you they're going to put PT and they're going to get you out of the field

as quick as they possibly can. Yeah. You're not no normal person. You don't get to take what a normal person would take six to ten weeks. Oh, they try to get you back that thing in two to four. Right. It's really that simple. I mean, I wish there was another way around it, guys, but it's just not.

But athletes heal faster we're different we get and like i said you go to pt a normal person goes to pt what two times a week right you going every single day maybe two times a day maybe you getting pt for two hours i mean i have injuries oh joe hey i get think about it. I get there at seven. I've got to be there by seven. Get out my clothes. Get my, hey, I getting, getting it for two hours. Okay. Lunch.

I'm getting it again. After practice, I get it again. So I'm getting treatment three times a day. I remember them days. So, but that was, I mean, I give give the bucks a lot of credit down there two top uh wide receivers and still put up a valiant effort i'm impressed i'm impressed i thought baker baker played well uh you see baker hold off goddamn bosa yeah i'm gonna still throw that for a yep okay baker baker will cook it, man.

I want it. I want it. I mean, it would have been dope to see the Bucs win that game. That was a good game. It was. Those of you that had the opportunity to watch that Bucs game, that was good. Steelers, Commanders,

Joy. Russ versus the Rooks. Steelers get the win against the Commanders, 28-27. At halftime,. Steelers, Commanders, Georgia. Russ versus the Rooks. Steelers get the win against the Commanders, 28-27 at halftime. The Steelers had 97 yards of total offense. They finished with 312. Russ was inconsistent. He was 14 of 28, 195 yards, three TDs, and one INT. Daniels, who entered the game as an MVP candidate,

did not have his best game, completed 16-32, 194 yards. Yeah, he missed a couple of throws that he'd like to have back. He had Luke McCaffrey on a crossing route that he really, really, really would love to have that one back. But give Russ credit because Russ, I think at one point, was like 9 of 20. But he picked it up. George Pickens made some big-time plays.

Fryer Muth came up clutch for him, made some big-time plays. Austin had a couple of big catches. And they were able to go on the road. Man, I'm watching this game, Mocho. Did you see how many people raved with them terrible towels? Yeah. I said, hold on. I was like, I got to go back and look. I got to see if this is thisaved with them terrible towels? Yeah. I was like, hold on.

I was like, I got to go back and look. I got to see if this is this in Washington or this in Pittsburgh. When the Steelers play away, they travel extremely well. So wherever they playing at, basically, it's their stadium. The Steelers will make it their stadium no matter how far. No matter how far they playing. You know why, Ocho? Because the Steelers were really it to the stadium, no matter how far. No matter how far they're playing. You know why, Ocho? Because the Steelers were really good in the 70s.

And a lot of people, now they got kids. They grew up watching the Steelers. They became Steelers fans. And a lot of times, kids become fans like their parents of the team that their parents root for. Right, right, right, right. So when you go, you're absolutely right. When you go on the road, parents root for. Right, right, right, right. So, when you go, you're absolutely right. When you go on the road, I'm looking, I'm like, hold on.

Washington got the ball. Why the crowd isn't a frenzy? Why they waving the towels? I said, Washington don't raise no towels. And I'm like, let me go. I said, they take it there. Take your stadium over. Take your airport. Oh, my goodness. I said they take your stadium over

oh my goodness yeah that was a good ass game though it was and I was listening to some of the commander fans they were upset about taking the L today do y'all realize y'all at the top of the division do you realize you just lost only your third game do you realize

the quarterback that you do have at the helm you have a decade plus some of winning football with him as your quarterback. Need nothing to hang your head on about losing today. It's cool. It's cool. I'm happy for us, though.

Three starts. He's 3-0. A lot of people question Mike Tomlin putting him back in as a starter. I wouldn't call it a gamble, but the gamble that most people say it is, it's paying off. Yeah, absolutely. And he said it himself. He said it himself. He was a long ranger on this decision.

Okay, okay, okay. But he also said, this is why they paid me the big bucks to make these decisions. And I'm able to stand. And the one thing that you know about the steelers organization they're always going to back their head coach yeah that's why they've only had three since 1969 they had chuck no the head coach coward and now they have mike t there's a reason they're not swayed by the media they're not swayed by the fans talking about fire this and fire that. That's not how the Roonies operate. They don't care about that. But the Steelers

run their record. They sit firmly atop the AFC North with a 72 record, but they haven't played any division games. They got two games against Baltimore, two games against Cleveland, two games against Cincinnati. We're going to find

a lot more about the Steelers, a lot more about the Ravens, and a lot more about the Bengals over the next six weeks. Because I think in the next six weeks, Ocho, I think they got the Ravens twice and the Bengals twice. Yeah. Hey,

I'm thinking about the damn Steelers sitting atop of the goddamn AFC North. And who would have ever thought? Last year, you didn't even have a quarterback. No. Last year, you didn't even have a quarterback. And you know, you bring in Russell Wilson,

you bring in Justin Fields, then you have two. So I'm thinking, well, hell, they got a quarterback carousel going on. They definitely going to be last in the division. This is how I'm thinking, well, hell, they got a quarterback carousel going on. They definitely going to be last in the division. This is how I'm thinking as a player. I agree. When there's quarterback controversy, it's too much

turmoil. It's too much going on. Because one time, they'll put one in, and he might not play well because there's pressure because he knows, damn, I can't make any mistakes. Because if I make any mistakes, they're going to put an old boy in there. Yes. So you're not able to play freely. You play very conservative football.

I'm thinking, yeah, there ain't going to be nothing today. Justin Fields surprised me the first three weeks. They might have went down at some point when they put Russell in, but Justin Fields played well. Now, Russell get the goddamn job. He's at the helm and he cooking.

Yeah. He cooking. Justin playing. He making Tomlin look good. The thing is though, but in order for this to be a success, Justin had to do what he was doing. Cause imagine if he goes over. So now all of a sudden you try to get to 500 instead of being 72.

Mike Tomlin knows his team. He's around this team. He knew how his team would respond. He knew he was making a very, very tough decision, but he knew that he had the type of guys in the locker room that would back his decision because they trust him. He's given them no reason not to trust him. The

organization trusts him. And so we should have had faith. I should have had faith in Mike Tomlin knowing over the last 17, 18 years, he's been nothing but exemplary. Mike Tomlin would ask post-game about the similarities, the difference between Jaden Daniels and Lamar Jackson. Man, be real slow comparing people to Lamar Jackson.

That's a multi-time MVP. That's Mr. Jackson. We'll see Mr. Jackson in a few days. Yeah. Yeah. You can't compare the two. There are two things that they do alike. They can run the ball and they can throw the ball.

They're two completely different type of players all together. Yeah. I mean, look, just because somebody's black and they can run the football and throw the football, that'll be their Lamar. Yeah. Will, let me ask you a question. We don't say that about Peyton. We didn't say okay, he white, he a pocket passer don't say that about payton we didn't say okay he white

he a pocket passer oh that's payton manning oh he white he can't run he throw for the pocket that's tom brady we don't do that but they try to compare justin field to labar jackson or michael vick then you do caleb williams anybody that can run and black and throat. Oh yeah, he this, he that. Damn. Yeah. Let the guy be him. Every time. Cardinals. Hey. Damn. Hey, they beat the dog.

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They were not prepared to play. That's the coach's job. But anyway, Rodgers completed one pass that traveled at least 10 yards. You're talking about a future Hall of Famer, quarterback throwing to Devontae Adams and Garrett Wilson. The Cardinals had the 24th-ranked pass defense. From Rodgers to the bottom of the roster, the Jets have

underachieved Ocho. Owner Woody Johnson, decision to fire coach Robert Sala after five games have backfired. Midseason trade for Devontae Adams has not bore fruit. And interim coach Jeff Ulbricht is

one and four. I'm trying to figure out who's surprised. I'm trying to tell y'all the Jets weren't going to be no good. Y'all pin all your hopes, all your hopes, on a 40-year-old quarterback coming off an Achilles injury. Right. That's really not really invested in the team

because he goes on P-Mac show and he talks about everything other than football. Go back and look how Peyton Manning ingratiated himself with the Broncos when he left the Colts after a long time. Go back and look at Tom Brady, how he ingratiated himself. How many minicamps did you think

those two guys missed? The two guys I mentioned earlier. How many? They held special practices. They got the guys together to work. In the offseason, yeah. Yeah. They was different.

Now, you done fired the coach. You done demoted the offensive coordinator. Yeah. Well, the defense gave up 31. Well, you know, the offense is allowed to score more than six. Absolutely. Because that's the one thing I love about football. It's not like when you play one-on-one, you play make it, take it.

I make a basket, I take it back out again. Now, in football, I score a touchdown, I kick it off to you. You can score too. Yeah. But they're not going to have nobody else to fire. Ain't nobody else to blame. You fired Salah see you gotta be careful you gotta be careful when you do things for the wrong

reasons see a lot of this has to do with him being mad at the Packers for drafting Jordan Love so I'm gonna go show you that I still got something left if you're not Ocho you've heard me say it a lot if you're not careful show you that I still got something left. If you're not Ocho, you've heard me say it a lot.

If you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most in a person. The guy that preceded him, what did he do? He got mad because they took a quarterback. Right. And where did he go first when he left Green Bay?

The Jets. That's the same thing. Same thing. I mean, Devontae Adams had 13 targets. He called six passes for 31 yards. Damn. damn you probably thinking I could have stayed where I was did exactly this and kept I think the state income tax

in Jersey or New York wherever it is about 10% I pay nothing is who if the state income tax in New York New Jersey gotta be like 10% 10 who? I catch you all at the end of my career, I'll pay you back

later what state? Jersey is 10.75, almost 11 because he stays in Jersey, so we don't have to do New York, but he stays in Jersey, nobody stays in the city New York't have to do New York but he stays in Jersey nobody stays in the city New York's 11

so he's playing 10 of that 10 10.75% that's crazy but you know how that is yeah how did you wrap who but here's the thing Ocho that's the thing

you just think see what Peyton because remember when Peyton got to Denver they went 13 and 3 they won like 7-8 games in a row had the number 1 seed Baltimore did come in and knock them off in the divisional round Peyton finished

second in the MVP voting the next year they go to the Super Bowl Peyton they break all the records Peyton over second in the MVP voting. The next year, they go to the Super Bowl. Peyton, they break all the records. Peyton, over 5,400 passing yards, NFL record. 55 touchdowns, NFL record. Go to the Super Bowl. The following year, Peyton throws 39

touchdowns. We see what Tom does. His first year there. Yeah. So we're like, hey, they do it. Nah, bro. You would expect Aaron to do that. Those are two natural-born so we're like hey they do it nah bro those are two natural born leaders natural

people gravitate towards them right you don't see Aaron as a leader huh I mean just your own personal opinion outside of the all I know is what I've read and what I've read with coaches. Oh, OK. Excuse me.

Not coach. Excuse me. What I've read when the reports about the CEO, Mark Murphy. Yes, sir. Aaron, don't you be the problem. They don't consult with him. They didn't consult with him when they hired they didn't consult with him

when they let somebody go damn the mere fact of how he does things when Mike Williams oh I was expecting Mike Williams to do this and he redlined and he was supposed to redline. Bro, why would

you do that? Yeah, you can't throw your play on this. Why would you do that? Name the time you've ever heard Peyton Manning. Name the time you've ever heard Peyton or Tom Brady because this is the guy that he wants to be in the category with. When have Tom Brady ever thrown somebody under the bus? When has Peyton Manning ever thrown somebody? They'll eat it.

They'll eat it. yeah, every time. They'll eat it and then have the conversation with the guys like, look, you know I was expecting you to be on the red line, right? Not run the end cut. Yeah. Every chance he gets. What does he do? You saw him in Green Bay. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Hey, speaking of Mike being on the red line, you know they had that exact same play today. Mike, oh, you know they had that exact same play today. Mike had just had that exact same play today with the cover zero. And the corner was sitting there squatting, waiting on the slam. Bro!

Real quick. But Ocho, you can't stand that far inside. You can't give a receiver that kind of free release. Yeah. To let him just run straight up the field. Yeah. And he's standing inside, which made it even worse. It pushed him even further inside.

Further in, yeah. Yeah. That was a good play. That was a good play by Mike. These guys here, Ocho, these guys are too good. If you don't put hands on them. Oh, but remember it was cover zero, so he was off, huh? Remember?

He was sitting off. Yes. But, Ocho, you can't be he was off. Remember? He was sitting off. Yes. But, Ocho, you can't be that far inside. Yeah, he was tripping. He was tripping. Because think about it. You're already two yards inside. If he stim you inside, now you're going to be three to four.

You give that guy so much area to just throw the ball. And Russ throws as good a deep ball as anybody in the league. I call it, like, they call it a little moon ball. It comes straight down. as anybody in the league. I call it, like, they call it a little moon ball. It comes straight down. Right down in the bucket. You ain't got no chance to recover. I don't care how fast you is. No, no, you can't cover that. And you get, he give him a

big target. Because he got all this to drop it up. He can't, he ain't got to drop it down what we call trying to, he don't have to drop it down a chimney. I got a big old radius that I can throw it into. I can throw it here. I can throw it here. I can let you catch it over here

because I'm not worried about the DB is so far behind. And then if I throw it over his shoulder, I can use my body, Ocho. He's got to come through me to break the play up. But I don't think it, I don't know, maybe Jets fans are surprised, but I'm

not. I should, hell, I'm surprised, honestly. I thought things would have been different. I was giving Aaron Rodgers his praise for what I felt he was going to be able to do on the field. I didn't really care about the stuff he was doing off of it. You know, do whatever the hell you want to

off of it. He has. Yeah. the hell you want to off of it. He has. Yeah. I'm expecting him to look like maybe not the Aaron Rodgers of old. Just give me 50% of that. Give me 50, 60% of the old Aaron Rodgers. And I thought, you know, the Jets, they're going to be on one. He's talking about Kyanne Ward and Lemon. Who is that?

How'd that work out for him today? Kyanne. Yeah, Kyanne Ward. he talking about cayenne water and lemon who is that how that work out for him today cayenne yeah cayenne water cayenne pepper water and lemon oh it's the fountain of youth even had the kicker that drilled the field go oh yeah this thing is working bro that stuff don't work look I understand all that cleanse and you go to these holistic

places and they give you all that stuff did y'all get it? Right. I ain't never heard no cayenne. I know about the Porsche cayenne. Cayenne pepper. They put cayenne pepper and they put water, lemon. I mean, what was he had?

I've discovered a fountain of you. Bro, clearly you don't watch yourself play because there's nothing useful about you. I'm not breaking a new chat. Do y'all think there's anything You don't... Bro, clearly you don't watch yourself play. Because ain't nothing useful about you. Ain't nothing... I'm not breaking any new chat. Do y'all think there's anything useful about Aaron Rodgers' play? Does he...

Cayenne pepper and water. Does he move like he once did? Absolutely not. Oh, no. I gotta try that, man. Try for what? You wanna look like he look? Nah, he said the founder youth.

How he look? He look old. Okay, so I would stay away from that cayenne and water if I was you. I know, but you gotta understand. I mean, it's the... Never mind. You know, we age gracefully. I mean, it's the, nevermind. I ain't, nevermind.

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