Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Mahomes ankle injury, Purdy wants top dollar, Josh Allen MVP

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 15 of the NFL season including Kansas City Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes exiting the game against the Cleveland Browns with an ankle sprain, reports of San Francisco 49ers QB Brock Purdy seeking a top tier QB contract worth around $50M, Buffalo Bills QB Josh Allen solidifies MVP case after dominant performance over Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions and much more!03:00 - Jaylon Johnson’s fit check05:10 - Michael Vick looks into coaching09:55 - Amon-Ra St. Brown gifts Prada suits to teammates14:31 - Bengals need the Broncos to lose out17:25 - Browns vs. Chiefs24:10 - Brock Purdy wants $50 Million26:10 - De'Vondre Campbell Sr. will not get released32:40 - Bills vs. Lions(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That was Jalen. Okay, okay. That was him. He came like Frank Lucas. He looked like one of Detroit players now. You remember when Frank Lucas. And he looked like one of the Detroit players now. You remember when Frank Lucas went to the Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier played in Madison Square Garden? Exact same coat and hat.

And he got his ass busked. They're like, hold on. Yeah. Who is that with that outfit sitting that close to the ring? And that's exactly how he got caught up. Because they had no clue who he was until you decided to step out and be flamboyant. Mm-hmm.

I mean, because think about what that cost. That's probably a hundred, that was probably like 50, 75,000 back in the 70s. Easy. Do you know how much, that's probably about 300, 400 thousand. But that was chinchilla now. Yes! You know how much chinchilla is today? In today's

market? I'd have been chilly because I definitely wouldn't have had that coat on I'd have just been chilly the hat was remember back in the day when my grandma used to go to church oh yeah them hats

yeah boy ain't nobody wanted to see my grandma hat game boy nobody wanted to see my grandma hat game, boy. Nobody want to see my grandma hat game, boy. She had all type of shit. White, black, red. She had a dress and a hat for every dress and heel. And a clutch.

Play with it if you want to. We put my grandma in the ground with a hat on. For real? She told my sister she want to be in a hat. Right. That's live. She had a hat her sunglasses yeah

everything yes sir you never go see I don't remember and like I said I've never seen my grandmother go to church without a hat never and if she forgot it you gonna turn around

and go get it yeah a mayor reporter go have that hat on them old ladies them old ladies that was a thing the old ladies wore hats back then man they were you know deaconesses or the sisters of the church and you know who had the best hat collection the pastor wife yes oh she yes she came stepping every sunday deaconess my grandmother was mother of the church, so, you know, they had to get up there and they had to step. Yeah. But, yeah, so I saw it on my feed, Ocho, on my IGV.

You didn't realize who it was. I ain't play no chit-chat. I just, you know, I just scrolled through. And I was like, damn, dude got on that Frank Lucas get-up. Because it looked exactly if I didn't know better he wouldn't have said hey let me get the Frank Lucas who Frank Lucas? Show them a picture

can you get me a coat and a hat look just like this and that's exactly what he was like that's so funny when they tweeted when the Bears social media account tweeted it I retweeted it back with a picture of Frank Lucas in the original picture. Yes.

Standing with everybody, with his wife and everything, with a comparison to him. Like, well, ain't that about to be? Yes. That's the exact ensemble. Yeah. And that thing long, too. Yeah, that thing was clean.

Oh, that thing long. Oh, Joe. Michael Beck seems to be the next NFL player, former NFL player, ready to make the jump into coaching. He's in discussion with both Norfolk State and Sacramento State to take over the head football coach. The biggest potential issue with Vic is that he has no head coaching experience or coaching experience at all at any level.

No college, no pro, no high school coaching. Of the two jobs, Norfolk would give Vic the most time to find his sea legs, but likely lacks the resources to build a true perennial contender. Sacramento State, on the other hand, has a proven history of recent success and the resources to surround Vic with experienced coaches

who can help him learn the ropes faster, but also has significantly more to lose if things go poorly. Especially the Norfolk job. Despite not having the resources, you know, that is where Vic is from. I think from a recruiting standpoint, players, young players wanting to go play for Vic, despite him not having the experience,

I'm sure he will have, you know, a staff, people around him, that will be able to guide him into finding the right ways to go about doing his job, even though he had no experience in it. There was one point on you and I, I didn't have experience in dating. So how did I learn? I had to get my feet wet. I had to go out there and date. You know, how do you learn to coach?

You go out there and you do just that, you know, and you get better at the craft and studying and a heeding to it and finding ways and studying others and understanding, talking conversations. Listen, you play in the NFL for years. You can make phone calls. You have the resources, you know, coaches, the head coaches you played for that you can confide in that can help you in that journey if you decide to embark upon just that uh i think both opportunities are awesome for vick if it's something that he loves to do in order to coach huh you got to have a passion for that you got to really have a passion and love for that for one uprooting your family oh for sure right vick out there with me in miami you know and having to commute to the west coast you know to be on Fox all the time you know maybe now

he can find some love and some consistency in being in one place you know instead of having to travel back and forth and if that love and that passion for coaching is there I'm all for it and I love it I love the opportunity for him because Michael Vic

loves some goddamn football he loves it. I love the opportunity for him because Michael Vick loves some goddamn football. He loves it. The knowledge that he has to pass on to the younger generation that can still relate to him because he's not that far removed from the game. It's dope. It's really dope. Hey,

listen, me and you on the same page. It ain't about me having the patience. It's the fact that my body listen me me and you on the same page it ain't about me having the patience it's the fact that my body is still willing and able and if you put me in any environment

when it comes time to competing or challenging each other in anything competitive my dumb ass gonna be in the way I'm gonna be in the way

your mind is able even if my body ain't able who you think your mind is able your body ain't able they're trying to show them how to do it yeah hey this is what you do

I can't coach at any level I just can't because I'm going to be in the way because the problem is I think I can still do it my mind is telling me what to do my mind knows what to do. Now, I'm not sure if my body's going to register or my mind is telling me to do what I used to do back in 05 and 06 and 07. I feel like I can.

And as far as I'm concerned, I can still do it and I still look the same. Hell, I think I can still play today. Armand Ross St. Brown brought Prada suits for the entire lives receivers room. Oh, Joe, what's the best gift you've gave you ever gave, uh, or gift you've received in the locker room.

Hey, that's a good one right there. Um, um, I ain't, I ain't really read. Never, never really received no gifts like that.

Um, especially, you know, during our time, we didn't have enough. We didn't win enough. Um, where gifts were really needed. You know, we, we didn't win especially, you know, during our time, during our tenure, we didn't have enough. We didn't win enough, where gifts were really needed. You know, we didn't win enough, you know, during my time outside of one season.

And I think if we won enough, then gifts would have been passed out for certain positions. You know, I was able to reach this milestone because of y'all, because of this specific group, or me giving Carson something nice because, you know, we were able to reach this milestone because of y'all, because of this specific group or me giving Carson something nice because, you know, we were able to. Carson didn't buy the offensive line because normally the offensive line would always get something.

Oh, yeah, quarterback always, especially. Yeah. Well, that 2005, that 2005 season, I can't remember what Carson bought, but I'm sure he bought that offensive line something. Because, oh, but our offense was unbelievable that year. I don't know what the hell was happening that year. But if there was something, you know, I can't remember, obviously, because it's been too long.

But I remember Carson buying something for all the offensive linemen for what they had been doing, you know, that season. We were on fire offensively. I, my first, 93, I was a first-team All-Pro. I was named starter of the, I was a starting team all pro. I was named starter of the, I was a starting tight end for the AFC. And I had a $10,000. If I made the pro bowl bonus.

Right. Right. And I went and bought the offensive lineman. I bought them all Rolexes, stainless steel Rolexes. Whoa. Wait, hold on that.

Yeah. Wait, how much was the Rolex? The price point of the, it was like 25. It was like, it on now wait, how much was the Rolex the price point of the it was like $2,500 it was stainless steel, like $2,500 okay, okay, okay, okay, okay I was getting ready to say, because you got me thinking about Rolexes

today, and I'm thinking about damn, that's $60,000 a piece and she ain't never had a watch on a day of her life. Not an Apple watch, not a Mickey Mouse, not a type. Where you watch at? I've known this woman nine years. I've never seen Ash with a watch on. Hey, Ash, what time is it? This is what she does. 9.39. Look at her phone. Look at her phone.

Yeah. That's where, I mean, most people, a lot of people tell time. Oh, yeah. I don't think I've, because I always have a watch on. Yeah. So, unless I'm working out. Yeah. But I don't really ever look at my phone to get the time.

I just look down at my wrist. Yeah, you know. But that's, I mean, I've never, I'm trying to think, did I do anything else? Nah, that was it. And I was like, damn, that little $10,000 would have came in handy. It was gold.

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get into the playoffs. The Bengals need to win out. Need the Colts to lose one of their next three games. They need the Dolphins to lose one of their next three games. The Broncos got to lose out? They need the Broncos to lose out. Can you do me a favor? Can you tell me the Broncos' next three games?

Now, do they need to lose every game? Yep. Yeah, I know what I mean. But I just don't like the Broncos are playing so well. Every game, lose out. That's what lose out means. I don't see them losing out. Now, some of the other.

They play y'all. They play y'all. They play Thursday night. They play the Chargers. They play y'all. And then they close off the season with the Chiefs. Just for one, I'm going to tell you right now. When the Bengals play the Broncos, we. They played y'all and then they closed off the season with the Chiefs. For one, I'm going to tell you right now, when the Bengals play the Broncos, we finna beat y'all ass.

And when we go on the show that night, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball at all. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you. Who y'all got? Who they got? If I'm not mistaken. I think y'all got the Raiders.

No, y'all replaced. Y'all got the Steelers. Do y'all got the Steelers again? Who do we close off with? Y'all got the Steelers, the Broncos. Oh, yeah. You talk about a 2% chance. Y'all got Browns, Broncos, Steelers.

There's a whole milk chance that we go to the playoffs and we squeeze in a little wild card spot. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I believe in my bangles. I believe in us because of number nine. I believe in us because of Uno and goddamn T. Higgins. Now, our issue, which has always been, especially this goddamn season,

is our defense. They happen to be our Achilles heel this year. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure why. I don't know what's going on. But if we happen to get into the playoffs, I don't know what's going on but if we happen to get into the playoffs I don't know what we're

going to do defensively I know what the hell we're going to do offensively I know what 1 and 5 are going to give us I know what Chase Brown are going to give us

I know one thing we got to score 50 we got to score 50 we got to score 50 it makes the other team score 45 that's it. All right, no, we're going to go ahead and see what we're going to put y'all out. So if y'all be the charges, does that mean we're out completely

and no other circumstances? Done. Kaput. Nah. Dang. But see, that was the scenario y'all need all of those scenarios you know what

I don't I honestly I don't just a thought of it like it could be another episode of me being emotional on camera again

and that's something I don't think I can take being I can I like it hey hell nah oh man I like it like that I like it. Hey, hey, I'm done.

Oh, man. I like it like that. Ocho, Patrick Mahomes ankle sprain overshadowed the Chiefs win versus the Browns. Mahomes left the game with an ankle injury with less than eight minutes remaining in the fourth quarter, which was later determined to be a sprained ankle. Backup Carson Wentz came into the ball game to finish for the Chiefs. Andy Reid, head coach

Andy Reid said, it's a little sore. It's literally day-to-day. He probably could have come back in, but he wanted to go back in, but there was no need for that. Mahomes will have more tests on the ankle of Monday. If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, they play Saturday at home

against the Houston Texans, and then follow that up on Wednesday against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ocho, they talk about three-peat. They just got to hope that Mahomes can finish healthy. If you watch this game, he's running for his life. Listen, the offensive line play, no disrespect to the players, the offensive line play there has been bad all season. That ain't nothing new.

It's been bad all year. It's been abysmal all year. There's nothing that they can do. Mahomes can't complain. Who are you going to complain to? You got to play through it and just hope at some point you have the right schemes, you have the right game plans and what you can do, but still

it's not working. It's not working. You know what? It's not working. It's not working. They ain't going to... You know what? I think Mahomes should relax on Saturday. Relax the Houston game. Who's the backup again?

Carson Wentz. See? Carson Wentz has enough cachet and he knows how to win and manage a game I would let Carson Wentz take over this Saturday against the Texans and let Mahomes come back

on Wednesday what you think? I mean that's just how I feel. It's going to be interesting to see. Buffalo, I think Buffalo has an easy schedule. An easier of the schedule, if you say that. They got the Patriots twice. They got the Eagles. Excuse me.

The Patriots twice. They got the J. Excuse me. The Patriots twice. They got the Jets. And who else do they have? I know they got the Patriots twice. The Jets. Is that it? The Bills. Patriots twice. Jets.

That's it. That's it? That's it? That's it? Oh, that's not fair. They got the Patriots twice and the Jets. That's not fair. But you know what's funny?

That could be a trap game, boy. Anytime you play a divisional opponent. What's that? You don't think so? Ain't no trapping. Have you seen the Patriots play? Have you seen the Patriots play? Hey, listen. Hey, uh. Okay. Ain't no trapping. Have you seen the Patriots play? Have you seen the Patriots play?

Okay. Ain't no trapping. They better hope Buffalo get trapped in Buffalo. That's the only trap. You got to win if they get trapped. If they can't get out. The Patriots come out there and do something crazy for four quarters and stumble up on a win.

It happened all the time. I don't know why it stumble up on a win. It happened all the time. I don't know why it happened like that, but it just happens all the time. Right. Especially with a team that's been dominating the way Buffalo is. And Kansas City, Houston at home, Pittsburgh on the road, Denver on the road. And Denver's playing really, really well. Yeah. Denver had them on the ropes last time.

If you don't remember, they ended up blocking the field goal. Football guys been on the Chiefs' side all season long, man. Yeah. Yeah. And here's the thing. Yeah. Because Buffalo beat Chiefs head-to-head, if they finish with the same record,

Buffalo gets home field. That ain't really somewhere I would want to play and have home field advantage anyway, honestly. Yeah. For me, this Buffalo looks different. Because even last year, Josh still turned the ball over a lot. Yeah.

And he put the ball in harm's way a lot. He hasn't done that this year. Now, remains to be seen come playoff time. Pressure ramps up. Expectations ramps up, especially if he continues to play like this, Ocho. I think it's a two-horse race

between he and Lamar Jackson for the MVP. Pittsburgh did a job that kind of hurt Saquon's MVP chances. So I think it's a two-horse race between Lamar and Josh Allen. Josh is playing extremely, extremely well. I think he has, what, he has 12, 10, 12 rushing touchdowns. He has another 25 passing touchdowns. Lamar is playing out of his mind. Lamar had five touchdowns. He has another 25 passing touchdowns. Lamar's playing out of his mind.

Lamar had five touchdowns today. So he's probably, what, 33-3? He was balling on. I was on the plane. Yeah, he was 30. Yeah, he had about 290 yards passing, five touchdowns.

Mm-hmm. So I think it's out of those two. But Josh just keeps doing it so well. I mean, it's every week. I mean, we saw what he did last week. He's the first guy since 1954 to throw for three touchdowns, rush for three touchdowns. He backed that up with two touchdowns, another two touchdown rushing,

another two touchdown passing. And he's kind of been doing that the entire season. And so it's going to be very, very interesting. I really think it's a two-horse race. I don't think anybody else is in the conversation currently. That's just me personally. Now, somebody might say, well, what about this guy? What about that guy?

I think it's a two-horse race now. And I don't see anybody knocking Josh Allen off. The Patriots, I don't see anybody knocking uh uh Josh Allen off the eagle uh the Patriots I don't see it now like you said they could rise up and and play unbelievable still lose but suppress some of Josh's numbers but if he doesn't I I just don't see the eagle I just don't see skew but I keep saying he's the Patriots I just don't see the Eagles. I just don't see, excuse me, I keep saying the Eagles, the Patriots. I just don't see, without him turning the ball over, I just don't see how they have enough offense to score. You right. You right about that, man.

God, Lee, man. It's just something about them games late in the season. I'm telling you, especially when it comes to divisional games, it gets tricky. It gets real tricky. Listen, Buffalo is playing really really well and I don't know what it is

it happens I see it we see it every year late in the season Brock Purdy reportedly seeking a contract at the top of the quarterback market around 50 million dollars a year at all but go ahead

all I know is I ain't getting nowhere a year. At all. But go ahead. All I know is I ain't get him nowhere near no $50 million. I'll give you one of them $35-40 million. What you think he gonna say? What you think he gonna say to that? No? Okay. Play on the... Guess what? What? We'll put you on

what you call it for two years. Oh, he going to bet on himself like Kirk Cousins did? Yes. Okay, let him bet. You always hear the story of everybody betting and coming up big. What about them snake eye stories? There's a reason why those windows don't open in Vegas. You notice that, Ocho? You in the casino, none of the rooms open. Those windows don't open in Vegas. You notice that, Ocho? You in the casino, none of the rooms open.

Those windows don't open, do they? You ever ask yourself, why these rooms don't open? I want to get some fresh air. Talk your talk. You ain't finna take the easy way out. You know what? They might have no choice but to pay Purdy.

Because, listen, you don't want to pay him what he's worth or what the market says he should be paid. Where else are you going at the quarterback position? You have no one to replace him. You don't have no choice. I'm not paying him no $50 million. Listen, they had a choice not to pay Daniel Jones. Yes, you do have a choice.

Okay, what did they pay? What did Tampa play Baker Mayfield? No, 40. Yes, you do got a choice. Okay, what did they pay? What did Tampa play Baker Mayfield? Nah, 40. Okay, okay. 33. Three years, 100 million. He should have a Baker Mayfield-type contract. Okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, that's feasible. That's feasible. I'm not sure he would even complain about that. He would. I'm not giving him no 50 million. That ain't happening. I don't know. That quarterback position is very, very, very, very important.

And sometimes if you want it bad enough, you will overpay for it. 49ers will not release Devondre Campbell. 49ers are pursuing a max suspension so Campbell doesn't get paid. Since he is a vested player, if they were to release him he still gets the remainder on his contract so if they suspend him they get to withhold that now that's something they're going to have to run by the league

for the amount of time that they can suspend him I'm thinking they're going to say conduct detrimental what is the framework for conduct detrimental you see how they're trying I yeah I would too you think I'm hold on so you want them to work for conduct detrimental. You see how this guy... I... Yeah! I would too! You think I'm... Hold on. So you want them to release

him and he still gets paid. There's one thing about it, boy. I wish I'd like... They want to hit you where it hurt. They want to hit you and take what they think you value most, that money. Yeah! Yeah. Ocho. Yeah. Drake Greenlaw got Nick.

He's the backup. So what did he do? Hit us where it hurt. We needed a body. He wouldn't go in the game. Fair is fair. Even Swap ain't no swimmer. You hit me where it hurt. I hit you where it hurt. We both hurt. Yes. I don't care if we both

blind. Did he come out and apologize or anything? Did he say anything? Did he talk to the team? Man, I don't want to hear what he got to say. Because everybody talk about, well, you don't know what that man was going through. So I just want to know, was he going through it before the game or did it happen during the game? Because if he was going through something before the game, take your ass to Kyle Shanahan, go to a Lynch,

John Lynch, who was the general manager, say, man, look at that, man. I got a lot on my mind tonight. I got, you know, my family, blah, blah, blah, X, Y, and Z. He got mad because they activated Drake Greenlaw and he went from a starter to a backup. That's why he got mad. We got to stop

making excuses. We try to excuse everything that a person does. You don't know what it was going through. Hold on. If you're in the middle of a football game, don't nothing else matter what's going

on on the outside because in between them lines that's your outlet that's your piece that's your job what right so it just happened so whatever he had going on Ocho it just reared his ugly head

when he put the pads on and at the third quarter when Dre Greenlaw got hurt so it didn't So it didn't happen. It didn't happen before the game. Not on the way to the stadium, he get a call, hey, something's going on with the fam, blah, blah, blah. It didn't happen once he got to the stadium and an hour before the kickoff.

It happened. It just so happened he started going through something. The moment they needed him to step in the game for Dre Greenlaw. That's when you don't know, Shannon, what he was going through. Whatever I'm going through, whatever I'm going through in life, I know once I walk in that stadium

and I walk in that locker room, whatever I'm going through in life, it stays on the outside until the game is over. Once you make that decision, Ocho, once you make that decision Ocho once you make that decision that you show up you gotta show out

Ocho now like I said if he has this going on before Ocho it just so happened it's funny don't you find it funny Ocho whatever he started going through it happened the moment Drake Greenlaw went down. I like how you just put that. That was nice. Now, I wonder

had he been going, if Drake Greenlaw is inactive, I wonder if he's still going through that same thing. Not at all. So, the 49ers are well within their right. And that's the whole thing. Ocho, I ain't got no problem.

If you work a regular nine to five, you just cannot show up. Well, I was going through something. Call your supervisor. Call your boss. Let somebody know. Man, Ocho hit me up. Hey, Ocho's not going to be able to make it today. He called me.

He said, he didn't have your number, but he wanted me to let you know that he had something going on at home. He had a personal issue that he got to deal with. He's sorry he wasn't able to tell you. You're just not going to show up on the damn job. Man, help that job. Bro, there's a common decency.

There's a common courtesy. And I'm not saying people don't have things, but you mean to tell me you don't have the common courtesy, the common decency to just call and say, hey, I'm not going to be able to come in today? That's crazy work, boy. That's crazy work.

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12 total touchdowns. Josh Allen was sensational again, 430 total yards, four touchdowns, two in the air, two on the ground. Jerry Goff was equally as impressive, but not nearly enough. He had 507 total yards and five touchdowns, no interceptions. Remember, Ocho, it's funny how the NFL worked. You remember that game? He had five interceptions and they won. He had five touchdowns no turnovers and they lose

that's just the way it goes buffalo raced out to a 14 nothing lead on josh on two touchdowns to uh josh allen td runs and they never looked back um buffalo they good ocho the only the only thing that i question is dan campbell calling an onside kick with 12 minutes up in the ball game. You're having a hard time stopping them. I'm not giving them a short field. Right. The last thing I'm going to do is give them a short field. Oh,

Joe, you give them the short and you had the momentum. Now you give them a short field and now they go up. They go up with about another score and you're fighting an uphill battle. But 48 to 42, I had some concerns about Detroit and that defense. And it's starting to show its head a little bit, Ocho. No.

Josh Allen's not an easy guy to sack. He's not an easy guy. Getting to him is the easy part. Getting his big ass on the ground is the tough part. Absolutely he is. But this was a very exciting. if you wanted points, ta-da, here it was,

48-42. And remember, they lost the game last week, 44-42. So they scored 90 points in the last two weeks. Good, good. Love that.

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Oh, so we gave up 86 points. From a fan perspective, they enjoyed this game. If you're a Buffalo fan, if you're a Lions fan, this is a game that you look forward to having. If you want to lose an end, maybe not so.

But the fact that you know you can put up these kind of points against good teams says now we need to work on the other half. Your goddamn defense. 40 points. They put up 90-some points. What, 80-some? Yep. You talk about Buffalo.

Buffalo scored 42 last week. They scored 42 this week. They gave up 44 last week to the Rams. They gave up 42. Now, both times they were on the road. Now, I mean, you know, you're on the road. But you're going to have to play a little better because it doesn't look like unless something happens with Kansas City, it's going to be tough for you

to overtake them because there's two games clear. For some reason, I just had this feeling it's the Bills year. It's the Bills year. Josh Allen is playing very, very well, very well. And if he happens to see the Chiefs again in the playoffs at some point, at any point, I think this is the year that they finally beat them. Josh Allen is playing out of this world. He's playing out of his mind.

Again, early in the season, obviously I had Lamar Jackson as my MVP. But as of the past, what, maybe three, three, maybe four weeks, Josh Allen put that cape on, man. He was Clark Clinton at the beginning of the past what maybe three, three, maybe four weeks, Josh Allen put that cape on man, he was Clark Clinton at the beginning of the season, now he's Superman he's playing just like Superman and what they're doing offensively with no superstars there are no bona fide superstars

over there in Buffalo, you know you have very good adequate role players that are doing their job very very well yeah very good adequate role players that are doing their job very very well yeah they run the football really well 34 rushes 197 yards 14 rushes 105 two touchdowns for james cook 11 carries for 66 yards two touchdowns for josh allen and i think that's the thing that when the voters look at it hold on he lost stephon dig he lost Stephon Diggs, who's a Pro Bowl player. He lost Gabe Davis, who's a very good receiver. You look at what they lost defense, both of their safety,

Travarius White, excuse me, Travarius White. Yeah. And he's doing this? The only difference I see with Josh Allen this year and the previous years, he's not turning it over. That's the biggest difference. He's been this.

Y'all, guys, he's been averaging, putting up 350 and 400 yards of total offense. But he gets himself into trouble when he turns the ball over. When they're going in to score and he throws an interception in the end zone and it's a touchback. He fumbles in the red zone when they're going to get points.

That is the biggest difference in which I see with this team. Plus, those guys aren't in his ear. Now, they scored 48 points. And if I'm looking at this, if my thing shows me correctly, I don't see Cooper with a target. Amari Cooper didn't get a target. And they dropped 48. Now, if somebody else didn't get a target last year,

we know what's going to be transpiring. So now he's the unquestioned leader of the entirety of the team. It's peace. Look at the way he's playing, thoughioned leader of the entirety of the team. It's peace. Look at the way he's playing, Ocho. He doesn't force. Look, now he did force one. He's rolling out of bounds, Ocho, and he's going back to the middle of the field. And he almost got it picked up by Johns.

Why? He's going to beat him a little bit. Why? Why? He's going to beat him. Yeah. He is. And so, look, your defense is going to, if you get the Buffalo Bills,

your defense best be on their best behavior because that's not an anomaly. Now, I'm not saying 48, but if you go back and look at it, they've got, what, eight straight games with at least 30? They're probably averaging 30 a game. I think they're nip and tuck right there with Baltimore, but they might have overtaken Baltimore, the highest scoring team in the NFL. Are they one or are they two?

Because I know Baltimore, Detroit, and them them they were right right there but I think after these last two games I think Buffalo's overtaking them but hey boy you gonna have your hands full because this team offensively and they got they got like

Ocho it's just like oh you got Shakur doing his thing that he's so hard to get on I mean Josh is just so hard to get on the ground. And then you got to worry about his leg because now, oh, Joe, I can't really rush like I want to. Because if I if I run past him, he's going to jump out the window. If I don't keep if I if I let him get outside of the pocket, he can throw on the move and he still can go get me a first down, even if it's third and 15. So it's so hard to defend him. You just hope that he makes some mistakes, he gets anxious,

and he starts and he turns the ball over. But if he's calm like he's been playing like the last three or four weeks, well, you got your hands full. If anything, especially knowing that he's a dual threat, you got to take your D ends and bring your ass up field and keep contained. And keep contained and level your ass off. If you have to have a spy, you know, because he's the dual threat quarterback, you got to have a spy to your side.

You got to keep your discipline. Keep your discipline. If he runs, just make sure you bring him down. You got to make the tackle, especially in man-to-man, because everybody back has turned. Everybody back has turned, and you is our last savior. Yep. And like the end, when you get

like, okay, you see where he is. He's back there in the pocket. He's about seven to eight yards. Once you get that point, now you got to level off. Don't you run your ass by him trying to, oh, I'm, no, no, no, don't do that. Bye-bye. Because all he's going to do is step out, he's going to step out the window on you.

And like you said, when you got your back turned, now good luck with that. But he is, he's a big, he's playing extremely well. The guys are making plays for him. Coleman came back today, had a big catch. Kincaid is finally back.

He's making catches. Shakur is his safety blanket. James Cook, you know, catching out of the backfield. They're really good. They're a really good football team. They're playing extremely well right now. Is there

a team in the AFC that has the possible weapons that what Detroit had or the Rams have? Because I haven't seen it consistently. We know the Ravens, give or take. Yeah. Lions are first in points scored, second in total offense. Bills are second in points scored, second in total offense. Bills are second in points scored, eighth in total offense.

They keep playing like this, they're going to be first in points scored. But they have a team that's really good. Like I said, I didn't agree with Dan Campbell with 12 minutes left in the game. Ocho kicking an onside kick. That's been Dan. He's always been who he is. I don't agree with that. Listen,

he has some big cojones and he wears them. Matter of fact, he walks down, he walks on the sideline with a wheelbarrow with his nuts in the wheelbarrow. And that's how he coaches. That's how he plays. He goes for it on four down. He goes for you.

He does onside kicks and his players believe in him. He believes in his players. And I think that's why he makes some of the calls that he makes that most players, I mean, most players and analysts and pundits like yourself, you just wouldn't agree with based on the situation. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.

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