Nightcap - Nightcap- Hour 1: Mahomes sensational, Saquon dominates, Schottenheimer hiring

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

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crushed the Washington Commanders 55 to 23, setting a new record for the most points scored in an NFC championship game. It's the fifth time the Eagles have made the Super Bowl and their second appearance in the last three years. The only triumph came in 2017. Saquon. 118 rush yards. Let me tell you something, right? Let me tell you how I knew Saquon. 118 rush yards. Let me tell you something, right?

Let me tell you how I knew Saquon meant business. When they ran the ball on the first drive and the safety came down. Hold on. The backer moved out the A-gap or something. I'm like, how you getting washed? How you getting washed like that? Saquon bounces outside. Then the safety coming downhill.

He arm tackling. He arm tackling. He arm tackling. I'm like, what are you doing? He ran right through that. Went and scored. And his lineman came to celebrate. And he looked at his lineman and said, nah, we ain't doing none of that.

Ain't none of that. Just shake my hand. And went to the sideline. I say, man, you know what? Boy, the game over. Right. The game is over. The game is over based on he really meant business.

He really meant business today. I'm coming here with one sole purpose. Oh, Joe. I'm finna run the ball straight down that throw. And he set the tone right off jump. Now, the Commanders has him opportunities to play some good ball. But, Unc, you four turnovers? the tone right off jump. Now, the Commanders has some opportunities to play some good ball, but you four turnovers?

All of them. You can't win like that. You can't win like that. You just can't. There's nothing you can do. Jaden Daniels, as good as he's been all season long, phenomenal player. He's been great. In a game like that, in order to have a chance,

you can't turn the ball over. Special teams, it hurts you. Yeah, because they scored a touchdown, and guess what, they kick it out to you, and you get it right back to them, and you get another one. So that means not only that, it puts the pressure and it put the onus on the offense,

and now you got to play perfect, damn near perfect football. You got to play damn near perfect football, and it makes it impossible for you to do so. You can't beat yourself. You can't beat yourself, and that's exactly what the commander did. No, because it's going to be hard enough to beat them. Yeah, I mean, careless turnout means you get the ball punched out, you run into the back of the guy and the ball comes out.

And, you know, Eckler gets the ball. He gets up and boom, punches it out. He gets it punched out. And then Jaden threw a pick late in the ballgame in the end zone. Yeah. Michael made a great intercept. What's his name? Ojo?

Kion. Kion. Oh, Ojo? Keon. Oh, Mitchell. Yeah. Yeah, he makes a great interception on that play. But when you turn the ball over against a team like this in their building, and they're firing pretty much on all cylinders because you look at Jalen Hurts, 20 of 26, 246 of touchdown.

Then put the ball in harm's way. They ran the ball 36 times for 229. You see the difference? You see the difference? Hey, Baltimore. Hey, Baltimore. At some point in time, Todd Monken, y'all going to learn y'all lesson. You see what they do?

You see what they do? Even when he get hit in the backfield. You see what they do? You know what I like about it about today i like the fact that they ran the ball right and even i've been arguing about you know the passing game jaylen hurst get the ball to aj brown you know just give him a shot even when you see one-on-one you know anticipate if you see one-on-one you see the safety in the middle of the field you don't have to hold the ball away from him to get open. Even if he's even, that's A.J. Brown.

You trust him. You know, you throw the ball up to him, that ain't 50-50 with young Bull. That ain't 50-50 with him. That's 70-20. He coming down with that nine times out of ten.

Nine times out of ten. So the first time there was a blitz that came and he held the ball waiting to see if he was going to beat Lattimore. It didn't work. They punted the ball. They got the ball back.

The very next series is fourth and five. Fourth and five. On fourth down, I saw the play. That might have been Jalen's best throw. That might have been one of his best throws of the year, Ocho. Perfect. In the bucket. He can't throw it any better.

You give somebody like that, you give somebody like that a chance. Just give him a chance. Put the ball, Ocho. Perfect. In the bucket. He can't throw it any better. You give somebody like that, you give somebody like that a chance. Just give him a chance. Put the ball in the vicinity. Put it in the area. He's going to come down with it nine times out of ten. Yeah. Yes, sir. He dropped it down the chimney. The game was brilliant.

It was brilliant on both sides of the ball. Special teams. Jalen played well. Saquon did what Saquon was going to do. He set the goddamn tone at the beginning of the game. Set the tone at the beginning of the game. I knew what time it was. Absolutely. And now, because he did that, now I'm throwing a little more coverage

because I got to get down. I can't guard this guy with a light box. I got a question for you. I got a question for you. I can't stop it. Spag loves to play 2-shell. Spag rarely has somebody down in the box.

So what's going to happen? Yeah. Are we going to trust my front four to get home? They have to. The Chiefs have already done what the Chiefs have done.

Or you take, or you take, I mean, I don't think they have, they don't have, they don't have, they don't have any qualms with putting McDuffie on Brown

and then playing coverage everywhere. They won't bat a night. Right, right, right. They won't bat a night with that matchup. But the thing is that the tight ends can give Kansas City problems. And they got a good one in Goddard. Now, Cal Cotera, he's more of a blocker, but he can make some plays.

He can. They don't throw him the ball much. He's more of a blocker. The receiver guy is Dallas Goddard. I mean, what if... And... Was he the one that threw... Who threw the touchdown pass to Nick Foles on Philly Special?

It wasn't Goddard, though, was it? I don't think Goddard was there. How do you counter that? If you were Spags, do you go small? Hell, can I go nickel? Can I go nickel and put it? No. Huh?

No. They'll run you off the field. I'm talking about on third down, though. They'll run you off the field. Trey Burton, okay. I mean, they count... No, you can't play them nickel because they'll run you off the field, Ocho.

They ain't got no problem running the football now. See, sometimes teams get... Well, I got a quarterback, I'm paying $50 million. I need to throw, I need to show you how valuable he is. That's not what the Eagles do. Eagles ran the ball 36 times today. 36 for 229. I would love to see the Chiefs.

I don't know how the Chiefs stack up against the run. I would love to see those numbers. They put you in a situation, don't you, where you really can't run the football because you're playing catch-up. So that's their run defense is to try to make you catch-up. Now, the question is, because Philly likes to play two-shell because they believe in front four. And therefore, Zach Braun is playing out of his mind.

The real deal. He playing out of his mind. And that front four that they got led by Jalen. Speaking of Braun, you know what? When you got Jalen Carter and you got, what's Young Bull? What's Young Bull name? No, number 90. Number 90, you got them two boys.

Oh, Nolan Smith? Jordan Davis. You got them two young bulls in front of you? Oh, Jordan Davis. Man, listen. For them things part to see like Moses. If you got any bit of talent at that middle back. Yeah.

Man, the show is yours. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They're real. They're real. They're formidable. Say, I bet if I'm in St. Croix, I'm like, hold on. Hey, Nick.

When y'all stop running that tush push man let me get these tubs yeah I mean what you call them got two of his touchdowns five tubs that's what I be like I be trying to get his

come on man I'm not for I'm not for going against coaches' wishes, but in times like that, I wish Jalen had a little bit more power or call of the offense. Like, you know how Peyton Manning would be? He'd say, let's have this thing off. He'd say, no, I'm not doing that, and he'd do his own thing.

Yeah. And it always worked. I wouldn't genuinely do that. So in situations like that where you know Saquon has the opportunity to make history, I would change the play

to some type of dive or just something direct where he can get those touchdowns as opposed to the touch push. Because on that, on what did that run, man,

I saw it, I was like, oh man you're going to regret going down at the one yard line because they're about to go yeah they're about to get his ball

they're about to get his ball to hurt and he's about to pile his way in the end zone Ocho with his ninth rush TD Hurts passed Steve Young

for the most all-time rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in NFL history after street three straight encroachment penalties on Washington trying to stop the tush push, guess what happened? The official said, if you continue this, we can award points.

Because as Ocho, what you going to do, put the ball in the end zone? The official said, yep, you jump off sides one more time. That's exactly what we're going to do. We're going to put the ball in the end zone. Because you're only going a half a yard, Ocho, what you going to do? Put the ball in the end zone? The officials say, yep. You jump offside one more time. That's exactly what we're going to do. We're going to put the ball in the end zone. Because they're only going a half a yard, Ocho. They're going to get it every time. Yeah. They stopped them once and they felt good because I think it was

Logu that went over the top. Kind of like what they did with Josh Allen. They went over the top and stopped it. It's like, okay. that was a rule I didn't even know's like, okay. And that was a rule I didn't even know. I didn't even know it was a rule.

I've never heard of it. That they could award points. I ain't been, listen, I haven't been that good in a rule book and I haven't seen that situation happen ever before.

But you look at the, this was almost the perfect storm for the Eagles. Jalen Hurts, extremely efficient, 20 of 26, 246, one touchdowns, no turnovers. Saquon, 15 rushes, 118 yards, three touchdowns, long of 60. Will Shipley comes in, has a 57-yard to the house, four for 77. Jalen Hurts, 10 of 16. He had a 9-yard run, but he did a great job. His thing is protect the football.

They can't. Washington, the commanders, you see the difference, commanders? Now, last week, you guys got the turnovers. Y'all dropped 45. They dropped 55. This week, y'all give up the four turnovers. Every time. You get 55 dropped on you.

Nation. There's a direct correlation. The more you turn it over, you decrease your chances of winning, and you increase your chances of winning. Look at all the teams in the playoffs that turned the ball over. You know?

Everybody going home. The proof is in the pudding. They're going home. The proof is in the pudding. I got a question for you. It is. I don't mean to put you on the spot like this. Yes. Yeah, I want to know they're going home the proof is in the pudding I got a question for you it is but it's I don't mean I don't mean to put you on the spot like this yes

yeah I want to know who you going with who I'm going with right now yeah I know it's tough it's tough Chad who you going with Chad man I know we got a lot of

I know we got a lot of it's ready to I think the thing for me I thought from about yes sir Ocho to be honest I thought from about week sir Ocho to be honest I thought from about week

eight or nine I thought the Eagles were the best were playing the best football they were the best team and I said it and I kept repeating it if the Eagles face

right the Lions I'm taking the Eagles because of their defense and yeah Jerry Goff sometimes he sometimes he turns the ball over. And you turn the ball over, and it's going to be the same thing. If you go back and look at it, the game that the Phillies played

a couple years ago against the Eagles, I mean, against the Chiefs, it was that turnover, that scoop and score. That Hurts got the ball, Kansas City, got their footing, and they go on and win the ball game. They come out the second half and dominate. And the next thing you know, they're winning their second, and they come back last year and they beat the 49ers for their third. But when you 20 of 28, excuse me, I said 20 of 26.

Yeah. Excuse me. 20 of 28, 246, Ocho. And you get 36 attempts for 229. You're extremely balanced. Because think about it. You had damn near many. Yeah.

Because when you take the sack yards, Ocho, they had 230 yards passing. They had 220 yards rushing. They had 28 pass attempts. They had 220 yards rushing. They had 28 pass attempts. They had 36 rush attempts. How many rush attempts did Baltimore have last week? Yeah. Because you're talking about a team that can run the ball just as good. Yeah.

You're talking about a team that can run the ball just as good. Lamar Jackson can throw the ball just as good. Yeah. Tide is just as good. Yeah. Tight ends just as good. I think, I think the Eagles defense is a little better. That's me personally. Uh, how many pass attempts? They had 30.

Uh, how many rush attempts did, uh, what you call them have no how many did Derek Henry 16 for 80 yards he averaged 5 yards a carry you only give him 16 he should have had 30 by himself they went away from the run

yeah they went away from the run. Second, yeah, they went away from the run. Second. Running it down here. And went straight down the field and scored. And got back on it. Yeah, this game got a hand early. 14-3 the first quarter. And then they get 12.

Then they get 13 the second. So you're going in the half, Ocho. You're down 27-15. You're like, okay, we get a second. So you're going in the half, Ocho. You're down 27-15. You're like, okay, we get a play. We right back in the game. Turn the ball over, boom. And then got outscored 21-0 in the fourth. Eagles are at home.

They're feeling good. They got them turnovers, and they're just like, you know what? Let's go ahead and step on the gas. Let's go ahead and just end this thing. We don't need to have any further discussions about what could possibly happen or why you had the momentum. And that's what you do. You see what happens when you get the momentum, Mocho?

And listen, don't get conservative. Most of the time what we tend to see is we see the play call and become conservative trying to make sure we don't want to lose the game and allows other teams to get back in the game. And it causes the game to be closer than it should be or closer than it needs to be. You know, but you kind of slipped to now. You said a whole lot. You said a whole lot of nothing. It didn't answer that question.

I said, who? What? We got a whole time. We don't got to pick right now. Think about how many shows we got. We got Monday. We got Thursday. Well, listen,

we got all them days. We got all them shows, right? Because we want people to come watch. If we already done picked, why they gonna watch? Why would anyone want to pick? Nah, we want to make sure

they watch because I'll give them that Thursday at the live show. Can we get to make sure they watch because I'll give them that third in the live show. Should we get to New Orleans? Okay. Yeah. And plus we got DraftKings. We got DraftKings later in the show.

We got something coming. I got it. Chad, who y'all got? Y'all got Eagles, Chiefs? We just want it. If we get a type of game that we got against the Chiefs and Buffalo, we'll take that. If we get a game like we got last year or the year before with the Eagles,

I'll take that. I just don't want no 55-23. I don't want no blowouts. Honestly, based on those two teams that we do have going into the Super Bowl, we're not going to get no blowout game like that because the turnover that the Commanders had, you're not going to get no blowout game like that. Because the turnover that the Commanders had, you're not going to get that from either side of the ball. Mahomes ain't turning the ball over like that.

Jalen Hurts, they're not even going to allow, they're not even going to put Jalen Hurts in a position where he can make those kind of turnovers and make those plays. How do you make sure things are efficient for the Eagles and the Eagles have that best chance and opportunity to host that goddamn Lombardi trophy? Give that motherfucking ball to 26. Yes.

Give it to 26. What is the answer that they're going to have for that? What's the answer? All I need you to do, all I need y'all to do is man on man at the point of attack, hold your man for one second until he goes by. Once Saquon gets to the second level man listen man two things gonna happen

either he gonna make the tackle or he gonna hit his head off the goal post yeah that's it I'm um I'm just interested to see how they're going to the defense what Spags is going to employ

to try to slow down Saquon. Because for me, I know what Saquon could do. Hurts, I'm going to make Hurts beat me. They're going to have to beat me throwing the football. I'm going to try to push him out of the pocket. I don't want him to get comfortable throwing from the pocket. I want to get him off

rhythm. I'm going to make him make decisions. And I'm going to make him, rhythm. I'm going to make him make decisions. And I'm going to make him, he's going to have to make the right decisions. That's the way I'm, I know what Saquon can do. I've seen, I've seen his body of work this year.

He's damn near 2,500 yards. I've seen it. I know, I know what he can do. So I don't need to get to the Super Bowl and say, oh, prove it, prove it to me again. Right. In the Super Bowl, hell, he might go for 200. Yeah. I don't want to get to the Super Bowl and say, oh, prove it. Prove it to me again. Right. In the Super Bowl, hell, he might go for 200.

Yeah. I don't want that to happen, Ocho. I don't. So if Hurts throws the ball for he's efficient like he is, he has a couple of touchdowns because I'm going to neutralize. The thing is you got to neutralize Saquon's big runs. It's the big. If you notice, Ocho, it's a 60-yarder. It's a 70-yarder. Sometimes hequon's big runs. It's the big. If you notice Ocho, it's a 60-yarder.

It's a 70-yarder. Sometimes he's getting multiple big runs. You got to neutralize that. So if he has 25 carries, 30 carries, and he has 120 yards, and his longest run is 10 yards, you live with that. You ain't got no choice. Ocho, I can't give him a 78. I can't give him a 66 or 60.

I can't. Because now 78 I can't give him a 66 or 60 I can't because now that team gets invigorated the defense, everybody's flying around special teams I'm not going to let that happen Ocho. And the funny thing about it the funny thing about it is once Saquon gets going, once he gets going

it opens up every fucking place. Absolutely. It opens up everything else the playbook looks like Disneyland if you're running the ball and doing what you want to do. Well, hey, it's, uh, when he's running the ball,

uh-huh, now, uh, Kellen Moore's play sheet looks like a Cheesecake Factory menu. You know, they got that big old menu, and they got about 7,800 pages. 7,800 pages. They got like 1,500 different cheesecakes, and they got like 1,700 different chicken dishes,

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He's only trailing one Tom Brady who has 35 career playoff wins. Since Patrick Mahomes has become the starter, he came to start his second year old job, AFC Championship game, they lost in overtime. Won the Super Bowl, lost the Super Bowl,

lost in the AFC Championship game, won the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl lost the Super Bowl lost in the AFC Championship game won the Super Bowl won the Super Bowl back in the Super Bowl again has there ever been a better start to a career in the history of the game

the only thing I can think is comparable the only thing I can think is comparable is Magic Johnson oh that's the only thing Ocho that's the only thing

me now look I go back so I'm a little I'm a the only thing. Ocho, that's the only thing. Me. Now, look, I go back, so I'm a little older than you, Ocho. But Magic, as a rookie, as a true rookie, won the title and was finals MVP. Didn't go back.

The next year, they won it again. He was finals MVP. They went back again. They got swept. They went back again in 84. They lost. No, they lost to the Rockets in 84. They went back again.

They won in 85. They lost in 86. They won in 87 and 88. So the only thing I can think that can rival this off the top of my head, and you know, as you threw this up here, the thing of trivia, and chat, y'all feel free to chime in if they better start to a career. Magic is right there with them because Magic has, what, three finals MVPs, two records? He has three MVPs, but they would have to see go back to there.

But, Ocho, Patrick Mahomes is insane. I don't know what else to say. I don't know what else to say about him. Unc, you say it all the time. Everybody says it all the time. When it comes to playing special in moments, when the game is on the line, when you absolutely need it, if there's somebody who want to put the ball in their hands at a crucial time in a game, who else are you picking

at the quarterback position out of everybody that's ever played outside of Tom Brady you got to go because I'm going with my home even with Brady if I take him if I take him at this point in time in their careers I'm taking my home because of one thing his legs yeah yeah you see that you see the two touchdown run yes you see the first down run. That's why I would take him. Because he can do everything, Brady. He can make every throw. He can make plays outside the pocket.

And that's not to, look, we know what Tom is. I still believe Tom is the GOAT. Right now, my home's just passed because I had him tied with Joe. Right now, I got him in second. Whoa, whoa. I got a question now. Go ahead. Now, we have to have a conversation.

Chat. Y'all got to stay with me real quick. Now we got to have a conversation when we talk about the GOAT. We talk about the greatest quarterback of all time. If Mahomes is able to go to New Orleans, you hear me? If he's able to go to that Superdome and perhaps

pull off a three-peat, we got to have a conversation. We're going to have a conversation, Ocho, but I don't think we can put him in front because he's still, even if he were to win, he's still three behind. Now, let's just say for the sake of argument, he goes back to the four-peat, it's done.

We ain't talking no more. Ain't nothing else to discuss. Patrick Mahomes, let's get past this. You're going to have that discussion because nobody else has ever done it. Nobody's ever done a three-peat in the Super Bowl era. Have there been teams that win championships? Okay, yes.

But we're talking about the Super Bowl. And when Mahomes, because here's the thing, O'Shaugh, on third and four, most teams are going to run the ball, burn 34 seconds off the clock, 35, 36 seconds off the clock. That's not what Andy will do. We've seen Andy far too many times put that ball in his hands. He said, son, I believe in you. Last year against the Baltimore Ravens, what did he do?

He threw the ball to MBS 30 yards down the field. Andy is not going to sit on it. Ocho, I'm going to turn it back over to you. I had a conversation with you last week. Talk to me. I said, Ocho, when Spags feel threatened, what's he going to do? I'm going to turn it back over to you. I had a conversation with you last week. I said, Ocho, when Spags feel threatened, what's he going to do? He going to blow it up.

When he felt threatened with Josh on Farm Down, and he felt threatened, what'd he do? Hold on. This is the thing about it. This is the thing about it. Spags waited until the right time for an exotic blitz they hadn't seen all game.

All game. Spags satag set on that like think about that when you talk about playing chess you talk about playing checkers you ain't bliss like that to that magnitude the entirety of the game but you ain't on the right moment to use that one exotic blitz and it got home you're coming he's gonna blow it up anytime he feels if you go back and study spags especially when he's been with kansas city when you threaten him you get in his territory and he feels the momentum he's gonna come he's gonna give you zero coverage what we call bomb blitz he's looking to blow it up and that's exactly what he did kincade i think he kind of lost it in the life he misjudjudged it. Now, this is the... Because John still...

Excuse me. Excuse me, Chad. John still made a hell of a throw to throw it off his back foot. Give Karloff just credit because he didn't drive him into the ground. He was close. He hit him.

Let him go. I ain't going to get... I ain't going to get no foul in this place. Ocho. You know Kincaid catch that ball. You know that... We talk about something totally different now, right? Because we're, now they might get a touchdown,

but I'm not begging to get, because you must be ready to get a touchdown and you lead 35, 40 seconds on the clock and they got two timeouts. I ain't betting against them. Absolutely. Listen, we've seen them do it before. We've seen them do it before. We saw them get the field goal range with 13 seconds. Josh is probably thinking, what the hell

do I got to do to beat this man? What happened? What was that? Last year? What happened last year is that somebody beat him. Oh, Kansas City went to Buffalo and beat him. He's like, damn, I just can't beat this man in the postseason.

I wanted home field. I got it. He come to my house, kick my ass. I go to his house, he kick my ass. So, can I go? I need to go to another conference and play on the Super Bowl, and then maybe I just get to the Super Bowl like that, and I see him in the Super Bowl, because he keep beating

my tail before I get to the big dance. Listen, we are in for a treat. We are in for a treat. We are in for a treat. If you have an AFC team, if you're a Bengals fan, a Ravens fan, a Bills fan, or a Chiefs fan, and I'm trying to think what other teams might be in contention, this is going to be for the next decade, young. It's going to be a joy to watch for the next decade. Those four quarterbacks go at it

and see who ends up in the AFC Championship. But they got to knock the big man down. They got to knock him down. You got to knock down the big domino. You got to knock him down. And they've done a great job. He's taking less money. Ocho, he's supposed to be the first –

he's supposed to have got $60 million five years ago. Oh, yeah. He said, no, I'm good with this. He's supposed to have got $60 ago. Oh, yeah. He said, no, I'm good with this. He's supposed to have got $60, $70 million now. He said, no, I'm good with this. He said,

because I need CJ. I need y'all to have some money because McDuffie's going to come up and I'm going to need y'all to pay him. But I'm also need y'all if some of these

free agents, wide receivers become available and we can get them on the low, I'm going to need you to get them. You see,

he's like, at the end of the day, he's going to have enough money. And Tom realized that. Tom's like, bro, when you got that kind of money, Ocho, you get what they call acquisition. So, hey, bro, I got this big deal coming out for you. Hey, check this out.

Don't nobody know about it. For $250,000, I'll let you get in. I'll give you a percentage. I just read today that Jeff Bezos bought $250,000 worth of Google stock before it came available. Now that's about 3 million shares. Go Google Google and see how many 3 million shares there is. When you got that kind of money. You do that.

And people are like, well, damn, how guys got that kind of money? Next thing you know, they was making 50 million, had 100 million. And now they at 500. They at a billion. Ta-da. I ain't telling you what somebody told you. You know, you got to think about it too. Also, people in the chat, you have to understand

everybody's not as fortunate. Everybody knows situations like that. Most of the time, most quarterbacks in a situation, you don't have the revenue or the stream of revenue and income off the field. No. So Tom Brady

was different. Tom Brady can take a home team discount, you know. And he had a wife. He had a wife that's making $40, $40, $30 million a year.

So it's different. It offsets what you're not getting from the team. Correct. Then you think about you think about passing the homes,

sponsors, endorsements coming off the field. So the. Correct. Then you think about you think about passing the homes, sponsors, endorsements coming off the field. So the pay cut that you'll take to allow Andy Reid and the Hunts to build a team around you

so that you can compete and be a contention year in and year out, you'll make it up for it anyway. Yeah. And the Hunts have already said

don't worry about it. You're never going to have to worry about anything because guess what? After next year, they're going to't worry about it. You're never going to have to worry about anything. Because guess what? After next year, they're going to tear it apart. You know what they're going to do? They're going to give you more up front. More up front.

That's what they're going to do. So it doesn't hurt the cat, and you're going to be all right. And you see him, the MLS team, he invested in that. I think he got a piece of the Royals, invested in that. So when you have money, Ocho, if you have money and you're a good person, you're not a jerk, people will want, hey, check this out.

Hey, we're getting ready to start an MLS team. When we get ready to buy this MLS team, we'd love for you to go in with us. We just want your name. Gonna call your ex. Oh, really? Call your financial people. See if it's real on the up and up. Boom.

There you go. That's how it happens. But I thought Josh played really well. He did. And Ocho, I told you. I don't need him to be Superman. The one thing he didn't do. See, I thought the game was about to get out of hand until Patrick Mahomes formed that ball and gave Buffalo life.

I thought that game was about to get out of hand, Ocho. Yes, sir. I thought it was about to get out of hand. I said, oh, Lord, have mercy. And then Buffalo, give Buffalo credit. They made, because they came out in the second half, Ochoa, and I don't know if you agree with me or not. It seemed like they made a concerted effort to run the football.

Yeah. James Cook, Josh Allen. I forget the, hold on, let me look. Davis. Davis. Davis. Johnson. I thought they'd say, you know what?

Let's run the football. They're playing in soft coverage. They try to kind of try to play us with nickel, a 4- you know what? Let's run the football. They're playing in soft coverage. They try to kind of try to play us with nickel, a 4-2-5. Let's run the football. And they started running the football, and Cook started having some success. Johnson had a run or two. But Kansas City, I mean, I really don't know what you say about Mahomes because every play that he made that he had to make, he found Juju.

He slings it to Juju and Juju breaks away. Give Buffalo credit. Kept him out of the end zone on that one. But guys, I don't, listen. Coach, let's go in. Let's go the elephant in the room. On that fourth down call. Everybody said, well, he got it.

Guys, I'm trying to figure out and I was asking myself, how does the guy on the far side of the field with all those bodies, since he's got it, when the guy right here closest to him said no. Yeah. Here's the thing, Ocho. He has the ball like this. The ball is not over the line.

It's because your shoulder is where the ball is. The ball didn't break the plane. Yeah is. The ball didn't break the plane. Yeah, no, he didn't break the plane. And the smart thing you want to do, most people say, why you don't extend the ball? Man, you extend the ball in them trenches like that, it's coming. You see former one of them, you see former, he got it back. When he jumped over the pile, it can't go back to him.

Now you got lucky there. That's not it, because here's the difference, Ocho. In the goal line, once you break the plane, it's dead. In the field of play, it's a lie. It's still a lie. You go over and they punch that ball out and they get it. That's their fault. So there's a big difference between the two, between the goal line

and the line that's in the line of play that's in field, the line of scrimmage. But I didn't think he got it. And when I looked at it in real time, said he didn't get it he did but we obviously didn't people people will argue the call talk about us yeah but where the ball is it's it's where you have the ball tucked into your chest and you've not passed a line if anything you would have to extend it for you to get the first down yes you can't do that in that scenario, in the trenches like that, in that scrum. You just can't.

He didn't want to... The thing is, Ocho, he didn't want to fall. So he had the ball, he held it tight because he know guys go... And so in the process of holding it tight, now they got you wrapped up. So now you can extend it, Ocho, because I got my arms around you and I won't let you do this.

Which you want to rely on. you want to rely on your teammates and your offensive players to kind of push you forward. Obviously, the momentum will stop, and the Chiefs won't. They got to stop, yeah. They weren't having it. Man, that was a good game, though, man. That was a good game. Worthy, worthy, showed he got better and better as the year progressed,

filling in for Rasheed Rice. Hollywood Brown was gone. Hollywood came back, had a couple of big catches today. Juju came in, had two catches. He only had three targets. He had another one. Mahomes overshot him in the middle of the field, and he jumped. He overshot him.

Mahomes overthrew him. But Hollywood had a big catch. Kelsey was relatively quiet. They did a great job. They probably didn't think... I thought Hamlin held... I mean, looking at the all-22 at the high buzz, I thought Hamlin held him several times. They didn't call it.

Yeah. I mean, the refs didn't allow him to do that. They allowed him to play football. They did. They allowed him to play a little bit today. You muted, Ocho. Yeah, you muted. Well, Ocho was muted. Boy, this was a good game.

I think, look, I understand that Buffalo, if you're a Buffalo fan and you didn't win, I can understand your disappointment. Hello, hello. But you kept, yep, you're back, Ocho. Okay, yeah, I understand that Buffalo, if you're a Buffalo fan and you didn't win, I can understand your disappointment. Hello, hello. But you can't. Yep, you're back. Okay, yeah, I did. I was switching. I want to switch to the mic so I can use the mic because I'm tired of hearing the damn echo.

Now, I was saying, as far as the holding calls are going, now, what I did like about the rest, the rest allowed them to play football. We're going to allow you to play football. You sure? Now, the holding calls or uh the the pass interference calls now they did call if it was egregious and you were impeding the player from getting to a spot and they should have you you you got to call some of those yeah you got to you should have the one on mcduffie yeah it was a it was a pi yeah but now you can't uh uh josh allen

couldn't throw that ball in no no no mc no, no. But Duffy couldn't have any better coming in to get the touchdown. He won the McHollins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was nice. That was nice. Also, Hollins stuck his hand up because basically what's called had his other arm.

He stuck it up and the ball's like, whoop. That was perfect. That was a good catch. That was a very good catch. A great catch. What'd they have? 147 rush yards.

Basically almost four and a half yards of carry the one thing about kansas city yes sir see kansas city which i thought they let the game get kind of almost get away from them they started running it on first down well what happens when you don't run when you run on first down and you don't get positive yards now it's second and long now you you, or second, and they got trapped behind the line a couple times. So now it's second and long. Now Buffalo dials the blitz up on you. Now they trap you. Now it's third and long.

You get a procedure penalty. Now it's even third and longer. If you see what happened, they went back and said, uh-uh. Man, let's go back. Throw it on first down. Because if you think about it, until they opened the game, they threw it in.

The first blue. They got this new formation. You know Andy. Long come, never saw him. Andy's come out with a couple of plays that you haven't seen him do before. But, man, this was an unbelievable game. I expected it to be what I got.

I expected Buffalo to play tough. I expected Kansas City to win a very, very close game because it come down to turnovers. Now they got one and they turned it into points. Josh fumbled the ball, but he was able to jump back on it. But man. I feel, you know, I want to say say feel bad i don't want to say feel sad but for buffalo fans for buffalo fans if you're a bills fan like you just you have to be happy

in a sense obviously you weren't able to make it to the super bowl but every year you're gonna have a chance and if you keep chopping wood at some point at some point you got to beat the man you're probably going to beat the man this just hadn't been you continue to get close closer and closer and closer and at some point it's gonna happen i don't know when um with the way with the way the chiefs are playing with the way my homes is playing i don't know when that will happen and andy ain't going nowhere andy's andy's rejuvenating andy's invigorated because they keep Andy young. Look, I know Andy was in Green Bay with my brother. And so I know Ray and my brother thanks the world of him.

He used to go to the Pro Bowl and his wife would come to the bar and sit down and have a drink with us and laugh and talk. They're great people. But this situation right here, at some point in time, we're going to start mentioning Andy as a top three, four coach of all time. All time? Yeah. All time.

You look at what he did in Philly. Yeah. You look at what he's doing now. There's a chance in the next two years, Andy can have 300 regular season wins. Ooh. Yes. Three tops.

And how old is Andy? 66. I think he's 66, 67. 66. That's it. He got it. Hold on. If Pete Carroll can take in that hole.

At 74, yeah. Yeah, you right. You right. You right. Andy, guess what, O ass home last night. At 74, yeah. Yeah, you right. You right. You right. And guess what, Ocho? He got Mahomes for another decade. Yeah. At men.

At men if he wanted. Now, I'm not saying he's going to coach Mahomes for the next decade, but I'm saying he got him if he wanted. So what's the likelihood of Mah home not winning at least 10 games they got 17 games i don't see a scenario where my home dips on the team no i can see he's gonna win somewhere between 11 and 14 games a year for the foreseeable future now this thing about this notion and see this is why you got to capture the moment you believe josh you believe uh lamar gonna keep knocking on that door and he gonna oh get there. So if he gets there, that means, guess what?

Josh and I. You say Joe Burrow, you believe he go, that means Lamar and Josh is not going to get there. So at some point in time, you can only have one. And you got Mahomes, you got Lamar, you got Joe Burrow, you got Josh Allen. Now those are your four big guns. Those are the four horsemen of the AFC.

Yes, sir. Now, you got some guys that's on the peripheral. You got a Justin Herbert. I believe they'll be better. John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh in his first year, got them to the playoffs. He's right there. Bo Nix is right there. So, you got the four kings, the four horsemen

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hired Brian Schottenheimer, who was their offensive coordinator last year. Jerry made the move and he was comfortable. Now, mind you, now remember the reports that came out, Jerry really liked Deion and Steven really wanted Brian Schottenheimer. And he really wanted, Jerry really liked Coach Prime, but Steve and Woo, they were really bloodthirsty. And I came over and said, Ocho, that's some smoking.

Everybody knew it was some blowjob, but it was just something to smoke screen. Hey, we talked to Coach Prime. That's our minority. Hey, that's our one token. Boom, we get over that. And the Cowboys, notably, they didn't interview any of the top candidates. The Ben Johnson, Cliff Kingsbury couldn't talk because he was going week to week, so you could only talk if you were in the high week.

So Nagy, Spagnola, Eric G., Aaron Glenn. None of the top candidates were interviewed by Harry. Brian Schottenheimer. Again, my only problem with you, I don't have a problem, chat. I don't want anybody to think that I have a problem with the hire. But don't give me this bull jive

you want somebody that call plays. Mike McCarthy call plays. Yes. See? We want somebody with previous head coaching experience. We want somebody that called plays. Yes. See? We want somebody with previous head coaching experience. We want somebody that called plays. Brian Schottenheimer has never been a head coach. He didn't call plays.

That's neither here nor there. Ocho, what do you think about that? Obviously, Jerry wants to continue his reign with power. He doesn't want to relinquish that power. He wants to be in control of everything. And he hired a coach that will fall in line with just that.

And brain, you know, what else, Ocho? Not to cut you off, brain Jason Witten. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. So, again, Jerry getting in the way, again, doing things his way. And the definition of insanity, Chad, you stay with me now.

The definition of insanity is doing things over and over and over in a way you see fit and expecting different results. The results have been the same for years, for years. And you continuously do it. Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy. Now, Mr. Schottenheimer. Nothing is going to change until you remove yourself and get out the way and allow people to do their job. Not to try to do multiple things at once. wants. Chan Gailey, Dave Campo,

Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy, now Brian Schottenheimer, all of them. Nothing's changed. It's just different names, but nothing's changed. Any of the people that you just called, would any of them challenge Jerry? Yeah.

My point exactly. And you let him feel your staff and you let him like, well, I want this guy to be on your defensive staff. I want this guy to be on your offensive staff.

No coach is going to keep it. No, no, no. They're not going to do that. That's if it's one thing. I go to a company and

I'm looking around. I'm going to give them an opportunity. That don't mean I'm going to keep them. But if I like what I hear and I'm looking around. I'm going to give them an opportunity. That don't mean I'm going to keep them. But if I like what I hear, I'll keep them. But I'm not going to let you tell me, well, you got to keep this VP or you got to keep this CFO or you got to keep this CO. No, hell no. That ain't happening.

But another thing, Ocho. Now, one other team attempted to interview Brian Schottenheimer. Now, all I want to know is this. Look, I will get me somebody somebody else won't. Because if nobody else wanted that, you tried to tell me something I don't know. Well, you got to think about it. Think about it now. Look at the elephant in the room.

Now, the coaches that were available, we talk about good coaches. And also, the coaches that were also available that could have come to Dallas, that could have interviewed in Dallas, wouldn't go for the shenanigans. You think Ben Johnson's going to stand down? You're going to tell Ben Johnson who we can bring on and who can care? Aaron Glenn? I mean, obviously, he wouldn't get the job. Anyway, you think Aaron Glenn is going to come to Dallas?

You're going to tell Aaron Glenn what type of staff he can put together? But people believe he can work with Coach Belichick. Can you imagine him telling Coach Belichick, hey, I want Jason Whitten to come on and he's going to be your coach and wait. Man, Belichick will tear that goddamn, tear Jerry's world down. Absolutely not. You have to get out of your own way. You have to.

You don't have a choice. He's been an offensive coordinator before. He's with the Jets for three years. His highest points per game, they were 13th. He called for St. Louis. The highest points per game, they were 13th. He called for St. Louis. The highest points per game was 21st. He also called in Seattle. His highest points per game was 6th in 2018.

He had three top 10 offenses as far as points. He averaged 28.7, 25.3, 26.8. And then that ended. And this was his first four-way back as being a coordinator, correct? Okay. So he's been a coordinator. He's been a coordinator for 11 years. Has some success.

Orchestrated three top 10 offenses in Seattle. None in the top 20 in St. Louis. And none in the top 10 offenses in Seattle, none in the top 20 in St. Louis, and none in the top 10 at the Jets. But he wasn't the coordinator, though, was he? He was? Okay. Okay, okay. So he was there with Rex.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So we know those offenses back then, Ochoa, was running the football, playing behind the defense. It was more ground and pound. But his most success, it came in Seattle. He did have great success in Seattle with Russ, 16 points per game, 19 points per game, 18 points per game. That's a pretty good resume.

But we know why he got the job. It's because Jerry wants someone that he can control. It's really that simple. There's no other, I'm not going to make it a black-white issue because I don't believe it's a black-white issue. It's a control issue.

Jerry wants control. Jerry wants control because Jerry wants credit. None of the blame, but the control. Because this thing fell apart, I can't believe this happened. I'm shocked as anybody. No, you're not shocked as anybody. You put this ish together. You should be the least shocked that it fell apart. But like you said, I mean, you do what you've done. You get what you've always gotten. It's hard for me to believe I can be in a scenario. At some point in time,

I'm going to change something. If I get the same results for 30 years and my objective, but Jerry's a promoter. Jerry's not trying to win. Jerry's not fooling me. He might fool some of the fans in Dallas. And I think for the most part, they've even caught on. Jerry's all trying to win. Jerry's not fooling me. He might fool some of the fans in Dallas.

And I think for the most part, they've even caught on. Jerry's all about selling. Jerry looks at it like anytime they're talking about me, that's good enough. We don't need to talk. They don't need to talk about me winning championships. They don't need to talk about me being that. They're talking about me. So I'm in the news.

That's good enough for him. And I don't see it changing. They bring back the same, Catherine. me. So I'm in the news. That's good enough for him. And I don't see it changing. They bring back the same, if you look at guys leave Dallas and play well. Look at now Neville Gallimore. He went to the Rams. Blown out.

I'm just saying. They make a trade for a guy at Carolina. they give a fourth round draft pick and the guy had how many catches he might have had four catches

the rest of them Mingo yeah man listen I don't know what Jerry is doing I can't question I've been around

football for a very long time obviously not as long as you have and not as long as he has he's an owner he's a GM hell he's every

goddamn thing he just his way always works and the fact that he wants credit is is just beyond me you know when you can look at the landscape of the nfl with all the owners that consistently win all the other franchises where they win consistently you You know, the Packers, the Bills, the Chiefs, the Steelers. I mean, teams that have a rich history in winning, you know, in the past. The Eagles. Everybody's going to the championship since he's here. You don't see any of the owners front and center making decisions, you know, pigeonholing head coaches, not allowing them to pick their staff, people that they work well with.

I mean, all that all that matters, all that matters. And the fact that control and credit is what he wants is ridiculous. And it is easy in the franchise. Jerry has Jerry has probably let's just say for the sake of it, let's just be safe. He's on 10 other businesses. How many of those businesses do you think he has on? Probably none.

None. Because he doesn't know. Right. But yet, he thinks he knows football. Well, he's been around football the longest, so he feels like he knows it. Yeah. I've been around a plow.

It doesn't make me a tractor. What the hell are you talking about? Just because you're around something. Hey, as a matter of fact, I'm sleeping in my garage tonight. That don't make me a car. Yeah, that's a good one. I got you. I'm just trying to figure out what makes him think he knows

just because you're around something. Hell, if somebody going to give me the scouting report, I can read off what they wrote down. You think Jerry going to the senior bowl and out there looking and Scott got his notepad like,

okay, guy got great pad level, drops his hip, great transition, change of direction. Oh, he bends the edge really well. I like the way he button press. Yeah, he don't know he not detailing sharp like that.

Obviously. Hell no! But there are guys that do. What's the guy name that runs the Cowboys? Will McClay. Will Clay. He knows.

He writes the notes, gives them to Jerry, and they have a little selection, okay? Okay, and who do we think is going to be available when we select at the time we select? They give them a list of names.

Everybody have their thing. Well, Jerry, this is what we need. Okay, Jerry, this is what we need. Bro, Michael Parsons fell in your lap. You ain't do nothing. CD fell in your lap. Come on, bro. That ain't nothing.

They fell to you. They had an agreement. Devontae Smith. The Eagles wanted Devontae Smith. They was like, hey, we'll trade up. Just don't bother him. We'll let y'all trade. Okay. they had an agreement Devontae Smith the Eagles wanted Devontae Smith that's like hey we'll trade up just don't bother him we'll let y'all trade

okay just don't select Parsons or y'all not gonna select Parsons you're gonna take Devontae right okay boom

see they fell and they laughed all the other receivers were gone so who are they gonna pick they needed a receiver Jetta was gone

Judy was gone Rose was was gone. Rose was gone. Waddle was gone. Wow, he really went out on a limb and got a CD. I need a receiver. He's the last one left. Oh, don't my bad. No, yeah, because Jalen Rager went before.

Rager went to Philly, right? Philly, yes. So, Ocho, that ain't nothing. If a guy just fall in your lap, no, you want to impress me, do what Kansas City did. Zoom up the draft board and go get somebody. That's what's impressive.

That lets me know, okay, they know what they're doing. You didn't do that. So I just don't get it. Mingo has 17 catches for 167 yards all year. He had five catches for 64 yards when he arrived in Dallas, and he played eight games. Played nine for Carolina. And they traded a fourth round pick for him, right?

Fourth or fifth. Traded a fourth round pick for that kind of production. He doesn't know what he's doing. He may feel like he does, but there's no way he does. It's not. You know, it's almost, it's almost it's almost hold on let's see did Justin Jefferson go before

or after CD he went to pick after yeah he went 22nd he want to pick after yeah he went 22nd oh so you saw you and CD and Justin Jefferson went 22nd check the numbers out look at the numbers

between the two but he know football not that CD is a bad because CD is a number one yeah absolutely but I don't know very many people that's taking CD

over Jenna I mean maybe Cowboy fans but I'm talking about if you pull if you pull GMs you pull all 32 GMs and says okay

you got Jenna or you got CDeeDee. Because right now, people are going to take Chase and Jeddah. They want to. Both of those guys were unanimous first-team All-Pros. There weren't a whole lot of unanimous first-team All-Pros, but those two guys were two of them.

And Jam, they've been an All-Pro every year except, what, last year, he got Nick. He went over 1,000 on two and missed like seven games. Can you imagine what his numbers would have been? Ain't nobody close to him. His first three years, his first four years, his first five years. Nobody's close to those numbers.

Now, with the season that Chase had, Chase might have an opportunity to get him, but he's going to probably need another 1,400, 1,500, which is possible with his quarterback and that system. But Jerry don't know what he's going to probably need another 14, 15 hundred, which is possible with his quarterback and that system. But Jerry don't know what he's doing, man. And like I said, I don't got no problem with Brian Schottenheimer. I'm just saying this notion that he's

scouring and he's trying to get the best man for the job. I don't believe he's doing that. I don't believe he's ever done that. He's not going to get a Cowboy fan. Jerry is not going to get a Cowboy fan. Jerry is not going to get anybody that's going to offer him some resistance. Brian, let me tell you what Brian Schottenheimer doesn't have. Any say on the final 53.

Any say in free agency. Any say in the draft. And all those are things that a head coach should have some type of say or all that fall over. that the head coach should have some type of say or just basically almost like I guess what if they still have arranged marriages hold on

I'm the one that gotta be with this lady I need to know you try to tell me what I want I know what I want Jerry this is an arranged marriage

Jerry is telling you he's picking players telling you what you need as opposed to what you want or what would fit best to the system. Now, is them coming back? I mean, as far as I know. See, that's another thing.

What if Brian Schottenheimer were to hire his own DC? No, that's crazy. I mean, listen, it's crazy the way things are run. Obviously, Jerry has the power. We understand that. He's going to exercise that right and that power at every turn and every chance he gets. Every chance and every turn he gets. He's killing his own franchise. He's killing his own team.

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