Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Master P's big announcement + Ocho's vacation

Episode Date: March 15, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best pop culture moments of the week including Master P joining to talk being named University of New Orleans' President of Basketball Operations,  Ocho recaps his trip to the Dominican Republic, and more!04:21 - Master P joins the show34:22 - Unc and Ocho give you a peek behind the curtain40:44 - Would you get this tattoo?47:32 - Ocho riding horses in the Dominican Republic(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Joining us right now. Hey, what's up, baby? We had him in New Orleans. What's happening? He's back. Here it is. Master. Hey, happening, though? He's back. Here it is. Master. Pete.

Pete, what it do? I'm good, brother. How you doing? Man, Pete, I'm great, man. Hey, congratulations. President of Basketball Operations at the University of New Orleans. How did this position come about? And explain your role to our chat, Pete.

Yeah, so Coach Tim Floyd, he's one of the greats from the University of New Orleans. Put a lot of guys in the NBA. And he done got older. He retired, I mean, a year or something ago. I told him, I said, man, I'm thinking about coaching in college. And then I didn't hear nothing from him. Then a couple months ago, man i gotta i got a position for you to go take over the university of new orleans and and uh man the rest was history

it's nothing but god like i said uh this is this is a town where i grew up at this school the university of new orleans has always been about property of nation. And for a black man to get this, you know, I definitely got to salute Deion Sanders for opening the doors, man, showing us that we could do it. So and I just love me and him got on the phone call. I was saying, coach, how do you think I should go about this? Like, man, take this first step. The rest is history. And man, this is,

Shannon, this is a blessing, my brother. I'm telling you, it's a blessing because, especially me coming from hip hop, this history to be able to, I'm running a whole.

Program. You know, basketball operations, everything. So it's like, now they got to listen to us, but you know, the program was in, Shannon was too. So you think about it, they ain't going to us, but you know, the program was in shambles too.

So think about it. They ain't going to give us a brand new car. Oh, yeah. You got to build it up, Pete. You ain't going to start from the top of the mountain. I got to make you climb up the mountain. Yeah. So think about it.

And, you know, it goes with my business model. I always find a problem. And if I find a problem, then I know what the solution is, and I could be a part of fixing it. And so the game has changed. Look at Rick Pitino. He done turned St. John's all the way around. Everywhere he goes, he turns it around.

Yeah, and think about it, right? This NIL stuff is now like my thing is catching the billionaires, the millionaires, the alumni from the University of New Orleans and saying, look, I caught them all yesterday. We got in the room. You know, we need y'all to make some deposits so we can go get the best players. Yeah. The best players.

And I mean, the job is easy from there because a lot of guys want to play for me. You know, I've been doing this for a while. I coached DeMar DeRozan, Lance Stevens, Brandon Jennings. So I come from a program, my P. Miller Ball is creating dogs. And so I know what that look like. And I got

dogs coming already. They want to be with this program. And so when the portal come, I told them no puppies allowed. Oh, dog. Oh, dog. We got to win, man. So think about it puppies allowed. Oh, dog. Oh, dog. We got to win, man. So think about it, Shannon. My thing is

we won four games last year. This is a Division I university. Yes, sir. So you know what I'm going to do. It's only up from there. And so I'm humble. I'm hungry. I'm letting God lead me on this journey. I mean, I just got to keep climbing from there. Man, listen, that's a beautiful thing, man'm hungry, I'm letting God lead me on this journey. I mean, I just got to keep climbing from there.

Man, listen, that's a beautiful thing, man, to honestly to get a position like that in your hometown, despite your background in being a rapper, because I know about your basketball game. I know about your IQ when it comes to that. So be able to be passionate about something

else that wasn't your main focus, but it was something that you loved. And now you get to actually live that dream. Like, I got chills because I have things that I also want to do where I've never been presented the opportunity to do it. And now, that's motivating to me. Because I'm like, man, if Pete could do it,

I know. Yes, and that's what I want all of us to feel like. Yeah, yeah. Because think about it. We already stereo time. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, in this position where I'm at, it's not like a lot of us in these positions. And so the school that I'm at, you're not going to see a lot of us at these positions.

And so now it's about me doing the right thing, being able to do this under the NCAA rules, show them that the same way Deion Sanders did. Like, he did it. And now we can do it in basketball. And so when you come to our games, I done learned from the GOAT already. When you come to these games in New Orleans,

we the coach, it's going to be turnt all the way up, Shannon. So, you know, I'm bringing y'all out, we the coaches, it's going to be turnt all the way up, Shannon. So, you know, I'm bringing y'all out, man. Yeah. It's going to be. But you're going to see some of the best basketball that you could see. And basketball changed my life and saved my life. And I went from Master P to Coach P. I mean.

The CEO. It's a blessing. Yes. Yes. And to be honest with you, this is a business. Yes, absolutely. And that's what this is right now. Basketball is a business. Yes. Yes. And to be honest with you, this is a business. Yes, absolutely. And that's what this is right now. Basketball is a business.

These kids are making money. And now I've got the right NIL deals that I can match anything. I can go after the number one players. Yeah. You know, we're going to have a spotlight for these kids to where the NBA is going to come to where we are because we're going to put these type of caliber players here and we have them we we are prepared to compete next year and to grow and get better go ahead okay yeah listen i have a question now when it comes to going to get players will you ever be in a position

or ever have to do the part where you go into homes and actually visit the parents and talk to them will Will you ever do that? Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, like, a lot of these parents grew up with me, grew up on my music, and they know I'm going to take care of their kids. Like, that's the most important thing. And I'm going to let them understand what hard work is. I said, I want dogs.

You got to be able to be dedicated, put the work in. I know you're going to say, oh, man, Master P, that's my coach. No, it's Coach P. We want good characters. We want guys that's going to come in here and work hard. And we're going to take it from there. Like if you got that lead ability, then we're going to make sure that these NBA scouts come in. And right now, I mean, I'm about to sit down with Steph Curry because we are under on the school. And that's the first thing I said, you know, for us two black men to come together, we're going to take this thing and blow it out the water. Like we're going to take this to the next level.

Like you're going to see even Steph Curry brand. It's like, you know, this is an opportunity that we really can blow this up and we can help each other. Let me ask you this. How do you get people to see other than what they see? No, it's because a lot of times where you grew up, how you grew up, okay, he a rapper. Man, he ain't nothing but a rapper.

But you parlayed that. He says, oh, no, no, no, I can sell product. I can sell cereal. I can sell chips. I can sell soda. Boom, boom, boom. They say, okay, no, all you do is rap and all you are a CEO. How can you lead a basketball program?

How can you get in the collective, the NIL? How do you get, how did you, Pete, get somebody to see other than what they saw? Well, you know what? This is not a traditional business anymore. So you're not going to find the traditional coaches. I mean, the same way they had to believe back in Rick Pitino. Like for me, I haven't been doing music for over 20 years. So they can't look at me from that perspective. They got to look and say, I've been giving back to the community for over 25 years.

You can look at my track. I've been doing the right thing for a long time. You know what? Nobody's perfect. I'm not. I'm not perfect. But I know that I'm letting go and lead me on this journey and I'm going to lead my team. I'm passionate about what I do. I love what I what I do Like, this is not about money. This is what I love to do. And I'm able to do that. This is what makes me most happy, you know, being able to help young people in special education. Think about it. I've always been on a financial literacy journey. So I've always been teaching and helping the next generation, the ones that want to listen. I don't went from NFL players to NBA players to major league baseball. I've been helping, showing them like, you know what, we have to understand the importance of financial literacy.

And now to be able to help brothers in this sport to be successful because everybody's not going to the NBA, right? So now I'm going to show these kids why they want to come and play for me because not only that this is a basketball game but most of these kids are feeding their families right now in college it's no more time waiting to get to the league you know i know what it is to be hungry my grandparents sent me to college with five dollars like go ahead on i hope you make it baby and guess what i came back and made it and brought our house, brought my grandmother house. And so I know what these kids, you know, feel, what they've been through. Me and Brandon Jennings talked about this last night. I said, what made you so good? Brandon said, man, look, I know the condition where I was at. Nobody wasn't going to outwork

me, even though they was bigger than me. You know, I was just with a dog on the court. And then I got a chance to be around UP and see mansions and see all these nice things and and then that even motivated me even more so so imagine these kids around me gonna see that I come from the gutter I come from nothing and look where I'm at now and now they get a chance to touch me and and play for the the team that I'm coaching but I'm gonna coach him hard I'm gonna coach him tough. I'm going to coach him tough because we're not going to win if we don't create toughness. And that's what this is about for me.

And that's off and on the court. And so I'm not only a coach. I'm going to be a father to a lot of these kids. The same way Deion Sanders would happen to be a father to a bunch of these kids because I'm giving some kids opportunity, man, that never had this type of opportunity before. I'm being honest with you, like, because the regular coaches will be afraid of these type of players. Think about it.

I had DeMar DeRozan. He was out of Compton. Brandon Jennings. Think about all these kids from some tough neighborhoods. Lance Stevenson. But I knew how to talk to them. Yes. Because think about it.

You can't talk to everybody the same. No, you cannot. Because guess what? A lot of players are going to stop. They're going to buck up. They're going to buck if you talk to them. Yeah. And so, you know what?

My thing is, right, if I could talk to these players and coach them in love, and it's going to be tough. Sometimes I'm going to have to talk to them tough, but guess what? They're going to know that I'm going to be there for them through thick and thin. And that's why they want to come be on this program with me. And plus, we've got a great city. We've got a great atmosphere. This is a big city.

And so, you know, my next thing is getting a lot of television time to where we get that time now at the University of New Orleans. It's going to be all about, you know, the privateers, not privateer nations. So getting all these, you know, major channels to zoom in on us because I've got some of the top entertainers in the world coming. We starting off, man, like we starting off. The culture has been built right now. It's built. Yeah, Pete, one of the things that I tell kids, I said, for me growing up, if I see it, I can be it,

I can get it. All I needed to do was see it. I saw my brother go to college. Hell, he went to college. He lived with me. He lived just like I did. He was poor as I was.

I'm doing. He went to the NFL. So if you see it, you should want to, you can be it or you can get it. Let me ask you this. When you go into,

what's going to be your sales pitch? Because there are a lot of people that's watching this and they're like, okay, let me see what B talking about. When you go into, what's going to be your sales pitch? Because there are a lot of people that's watching this and they're like, okay, let me see what Pete's talking about. When you go into something, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho and I, we're the number one and two recruits in the nation. And we're from New Orleans. Let's just say Ocho's from

New Orleans. I'm from California. You're going to come sit down on my grandma's couch. You're going to go sit on Ocho's couch. What's your pitch? How are you going to get me and Ocho to team up as the number one and number two basketball players in the country? I ain't just from New Orleans. I'm from Uptown, man.

So, guess what? Ocho, you from Uptown. I know you a dog. And if I'm coming to your house, I'm coming to let your parents know that I'm going to be a coach that's going to guide your son all the way through this process because this is a journey. It's not going to be easy. I'm going to be on them. I'm going to be a coach that's going to guide your son all the way through this process because this is a journey. It's not going to be easy.

I'm going to be on. I'm going to be tough, but I'm also going to reward him. And I'm going to put him in a great situation to where he could get the right NIL money. Then he could be happy. And also, I'm going to make sure he get his education because I know one thing for me, education has changed my life and saved my life. So I put you on that right journey, so even if you get hurt or you go through something now, you can still take care of yourself as a man. I'm creating men. I want you to come here to play for me, but I also want you to love what you're doing and you got to want to be here too. So if you don't

see this the place for you, then it's not the place for you. But it is that I'm not trying to sell nobody because I've been through it all. And I know that I have to be there for these kids and show them the right way. And then they can learn from my mistakes. But also I could teach them business. I could show them how to create their own products and brands. Also, because even the NIL money is nothing to what,

once you make a name for yourself in this college system, you're going to be worth way more than this. And then the end goal, if you want to get to the NBA, then guess what? I've got people that now that's going to bring NBA scouts to our arena to come see you. And this is a great city. And if you're from here, you know that. But you also

have to be able to police yourself because you've grown. So I'm going to also be looking for your son to be able to police himself, be able to be accountable and he gotta want this because if he don't want this i can't do nothing else for him but i could definitely show him everything that i've been through and and i could put the right team around him to get to where you need to be at and that's that's just gonna be my selfish because it's not a selfish

it's just reality because i'm a i'm a i'm a black man that's been through what these black kids and young men are going through. And I know they're not going to be able to play games with me because I done seen it all. And so when they get on this campus, you know, they're going to be held accountable like anybody else. But we're going to win. We're going to get better. We're going to grow together. And that's what it's going to be about. And we're not going to play games with them because a lot of these

other coaches are playing games with our kids because this is a business. I'm going to let them know. And guess what? If you get yourself to a position to where you need to go to lead, I'm not making kids say they need to stay here because I know I can get other kids if I need to. But if you come here and this is where you want to be and you want to be in college for right now, until you get an opportunity to go to the NBA, this is the spot for you because we're going to take care of our kids. And that's what I've been doing all my life. And you can check my record on there.

So DeMar DeRozan, I had him since seventh grade. Lance Stevens, I had him since seventh grade. Brandon Jennings, I had him since seventh grade. Brandon Jennings, I had him since seventh grade. I had all these kids all the way through college. So go check my resume. That's live. That's live.

I have my college coach, Bill Davis, rest his soul. You know what he told me? He said, son, it's after four years. You're not in a better position than you are right now. You don't need to come here.

Yeah. Because if what we have to offer you here is not better than what you have where you are right now, this ain't the place for you. Yeah. I'm coming. But, Shannon, think about this. Why go play for them when you can play for us, somebody that really cares about you?

That's right. Because once you get a part of this system, you're a part of my family. Like, think about it. All these other kids you know, if you go ask them about me, they still know me today. Think about it. Look at my track record right now, right? I didn't stop Snoop's career. I let him blossom and grow.

Go look at everybody I didn't create. I didn't create the guys that they don't. Because I tell people all the time, it's like finding a used car. And so that's why I say I want to find dogs. Because most of the dogs, nobody really want them. Because they probably think their attitude too bad. Or maybe they've been through something. No.

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I want a certain amount of money. But how do you keep the kids focused, P, especially them dogs, you know, that influence by hip hop, by some of the things that they see. How do you keep them focused on strictly basketball and trying to get to that next level? If your dreams are to be an NBA, how do you keep them locked in when they're getting the money early? Well, guess what?

If you get the money early, then you need to invest that money in yourself because that money don't come and go. So if you take that money invested in something, guess what? You need more money. So you're going to come here and work. You're going to have a solid focus. You're going to keep your mind right because we're going to show you that. So think about right now, a lot of kids go in college. They don't even have the NIL money in a business name. And my players, I'm going to show them that. I don't want to control them. So if you got your money in a business name, then you can hold on to it. Create your LLC.

Create your incorporation, right? And so now you have a business. So you can go to the bank and invest that money and put it away. Because my whole thing is put this money into escrow. Put this money into something where you don't have to touch it right now unless you need it to help your family or whatever, right? My thing is once we show them that, so by the time next year, they're going to double their money. We're going to show them how to do that.

And I think nobody else cares as much as me in doing that for my players because I do it anyway. Look at my Master P masterclasses. I do that anyway. And so for me to be able to do that for my players, there's only going to be 12 or 15 players on my team, and to be able to be that for my players, there's only going to be 12 or 15 players on my team. And to be able to be that close, to have a family bond with the people on my team that I want to see successful. Like I said, everybody's not going to make it to the NBA.

But if somebody come up with something, create a business or something while we're in college. If you look at it, the guy that created Tesla, Elon Musk, he created PayPal while he was in college. I want to be able to show the athletes on my team. We could do this while we're in college if we stay focused. But you got to come here. It's not about the money. You know, everybody want to make some money. But this little money right now, I'm going to show my players.

This is the little money. The end game is where the real money come in at once you get to the league. This money here is nothing but to keep yourself going, keep your family going, because we know most of these players are going to come from hard times. I got players from New York hitting me up, from Chicago, from Philly, from Maryland. I got players hitting me up because guess what?

They want their spotlight. They want their spotlight knowing that this year, if you play for Master P, if you play for Percy Miller, Coach P, that spotlight is going to be on you. And if you a real dog and you could play, I wouldn't even care about getting IL money right now. If I'm a real NBA player and you come here with me, you're going to make it because all eyes are going to be on us. Right.

P, you mentioned something like the people that reached out for you, they come from hard times. You know what create tough men? Hard times. Hard times create tough men. Tough men create easy times. Easy men create hard times. You see that cycle high goals, P? You see what you did is that P came from an impoverished situation, a very hard time. It created a very tough-minded and sound, hard individual. Then P created easy times. Now, in that easy time in which you created, what are those under you in that time? What are they going to do? You said something very interesting, that set up an LLC, set up a court, set up a trust.

Because what you can do when you have money, you can borrow money against what you have in that account. You don't have to spend money. See, that's where they get ahead, F.E. They don't spend their money. They spend other people's money while their money's thrown. I ain't telling you what somebody's doing. I'm telling you what I know.

We're building credit at the same time. Yes. Shannon, we're building credit. We also understand that, okay, if you got somebody that look like us that care about you and want to see you win, why not come play for us?

Because guess what? The main thing is if you really could play, the NBA will find you. No matter where you at. No matter where you at. Think about it. So look at Scottie Pippen, right?

Scottie Pippen was on a team that nobody knew where he was at, but guess what? He made it to the league. Steph Curry was in Davis. Dennis Rodman. Yep, Dennis Rodman. Look at right now, Damon Little.

All those people that you see right now, even John Morant. You just need to be on a Division I basketball team, and they're going to find you. If you're good, P, look, they went way to Serbia and got Luka. I mean, they got Luka from Slovenia. They got Yannis from Greece. They got Wimpy from France. They got Jokic from Serbia.

If you're good at anything and they think you can make money off it, they're going to find you every time. I'm going to tell you all, we got a great arena. We got a great atmosphere. We're going to put the best product on the floor. We're going to put the best characters. We want to build characters at the same time.

We want people to come here to... We want to have those testimonies. Now a kid can say, man, I went out there with Coach P and my whole life changed because he stayed on me. He held me accountable. And now, you know, I'm one of the top players in the NBA right now. Like I want to create those testimonies. And so I want any kid out there that's watching this right now. If you if you're a real basketball player and you're a

real dog and you want an opportunity to get to the NBA, you also want an opportunity to graduate from a great university and also have a great staff of people around you. Because, you know, that's what it takes, too. You want to have a good team, a good team around you, people that really care about you. And that's what this is about. Once you're part of this family, you're part of our family for life. So everybody that's been around is about. Once you're a part of this family, you're a part of our family for life. So everybody that been around me, we still family for forever. It's not like,

oh, you come in. Cause think about it. Y'all know y'all have played professional sports. A lot of these people forget about it, but now you have some people, you know, that,

that, that, that you really know that this is your family. You could call them anytime. Cause you know, man, look, I've been around that person.

This is bigger than basketball. It's bigger than football. Like like and that's what this is for me this is bigger than that like like we're gonna make history together and that's what this is gonna be about and we're gonna show the world that that we could do something positive we could grow because you think they want us to be successful in this y'all they don't want us to be successful in this because think about it now they're gonna realize wow, not only they come from entertainment, because even sports now, entertainment and sports, they go together. Think about it. It goes together.

And we business people, and we know how to create something from nothing. Like I told y'all, I always find me a used car, put some wheels and some paint on it, and fix it up. And that's what I'm doing right now. I'm fixing up this car and taking it to the next level. You talk about entertainment. What are they doing? The biggest event in North America is what?

The Super Bowl. What do they have at halftime, Pete? Yes. You go to the RBA All-Star Game. What do they have, Pete? They have entertainment. So it goes hand in hand. Let me ask you this, Pete.

I'm going to get you out of here on this one. When it's all said and done, what do you want people to say about Pete? Well, you know what? My whole thing is I don't want us to wait until it's too late, until it's done. And, like, when I look at Junior Bridgman life, right, me and him was going to do a lot of things together. And I did a lot of work in Louisville. But we got to stop saying I'm going to get together tomorrow.

I'm going to do it later. You know, we got to do it now. Stop procrastinating. Yeah. So my thing is the most talent and the most wealth is in the graveyard. Think about it. And once we're gone, somebody else is going to do what they got to do with our wealth. I want people to know that Pete did what he needed to do for his people now.

Like, we're not waiting. And that's why this is so important, what I'm doing now. This is bigger than student athletes in a basketball game, y'all. This is about changing lives and saving lives at the same time. Because a lot of these kids that come from here, they never would get these type of chances. Or some of these kids getting second chances. You know, like basketball, college basketball is getting older now. When you go in that transport portal, a lot of these kids have been in college a long time.

So now for some of these players, if they're really good, this is going to be the last step of feeding their families, getting on a winning organization to be able to get the real NIL money that they can get. My thing is I want people to remember me for creating future leaders, putting our people in a position to win. And that's what this is about with me. Yeah. Pete, congratulations on the opportunity, man. I know you're going to do great things because everything you seemingly have

touched has turned to gold. You pull your heart, you pull your heart, and you pull your soul into it. But I understand. This is what I know about you. You love what you do, and it resonates in the kids because once somebody found that that you care about them there isn't much they won't do for you for you yeah once a kid know is there anything once a person know that you care once i knew that teacher cared about me my coach cared about me i would move heaven and earth oh yeah because I never wanted to let that person down. Congratulations

on this opportunity. I know you'll make the best of this opportunity. Before you leave, you in New Orleans right now? Man, I'm going to be there for Super Sunday. I'm going to be second line and all. Meet me at the park, man. I'm going to be at Super Sunday. Come on, man. I ain't playing.

I'm going from New York to New Orleans. I'm going to march all't playing. I'm going from New York to New Orleans. I'm going to march all the way. I'm a second. You're going to see me. I'm going to have an inline now. Let's go, man. I got to get you some of this power.

You know what I'm saying? I got to get you some. Hey, P, I'm going to hit you up. I need to run something by you anyway, but I'll hit you up tomorrow. Okay. I appreciate you to hit you up. I need to run something by you anyway, but I'll hit you up tomorrow. Okay. All right. Appreciate you. Yep.

P, new general manager of New Orleans University, the Privateers. That's dope. Man, you're a great dude. One of the first guys that I had on Club Shed Shed Ocho, I didn't really know who I was going to get. And CJ said, hey, you got anybody? Hey, whoever you got on your phone that's famous, call them. Oh, I got Floyd Mayweather here.

Oh, damn, Rick Rowe. Master P. Hey, bro, I need a solid, man. I just started a podcast. Hey, bro, we got you. Just let me know when. Boom, boom, boom, boom. That's how I started.

And I appreciate it. Having met P only a handful of times. I had never met Rick Ross. Hey, I DMed him and said, man, let me get your number. Hey. Hey, I have my phone in my hand. Just hope he see this. Oh, he came in. He got to me. Hey, bro. Man, check this out,

man. I just started a podcast man uh i wonder if i can get you on i mean hey because he had gone to an hbcu for a minute i think he went to albany state for a minute albany state's in the sic just like we were boom it worked so it's great that when he said to hear him say how okay do things and and how we support one another and be there for one another. Hey, they know. So that's why, hey, when he reaches out, him, Snoop, Cube, I'm there. I'm there because they were there for me when I didn't have, hey, just starting this thing up, it gave us credibility because we had not a

whole lot of podcasts when they start out, was able to trot out the lineup that I trotted out. I knew the first guest was going to be my brother. But after that, I was like, man, who the hell am I going to get? And, hey, from Master P to Floyd Mayweather, like I said, to Ross. Hey, boy, you've been on fire, boy. Why aren't you guys including Jameer Gibbs in the top five backs?

He is. We just overlooked it, bro. You do realize we're going off the top of our dome. Bro, ain't like we got no zero. Like, okay, guys, let me explain how Ocho and I work. Like, okay, we have the list of the rundown. But when you hear me start naming our players, that's not on there. That's just off the top of my head.

That's off the top of Ocho's head. We have a rundown in which the topics we're going to talk about. I know y'all was talking about, well, hey, Ash is probably feeding him information because I was going back and I was telling you, we was talking about the Yankees and I was giving you different errors in which the players played. They was like, well, he recall, oh, he got it. No, I don't.

Because I didn't even know we were going to talk about that until you brought up the Yankees and what made them special. And then, okay, we go into this field. Okay, we talk NASCAR. I have no idea we're going to talk NASCAR. And then I've just become, if you're from the South, which I was, NASCAR is in you.

You watched it. You watched all of them because NASCAR is not like it was. I think NASCAR used to come on CBS, if I'm not mistaken. And, you know, Darren Earnhardt Jr. used to drive the number two Wrangler car before he got the black Mardi Carlo, the three and had the Gagor shades. And,

and, and Daryl Waltrip drove the, the Tide 88 before he got the 11 car. And do you have Buddy Baker? You had Bobby and Donnie Allison, all those guys, Buddy Baker, all those guys,

you know, I watched them. Harry Gant, the Skull Bandit, Neil Bonnet, Austin Bill from Dawsonville. This was before Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson and Dale Earnhardt Jr. and all these guys. That was before them. So that's why, you know, and I remember I used to sit down, what else are you going to watch?

You had three channels, on, off, and don't mess with me. So it wasn't like you just, like it is now, or you got 500 channels to choose from. Please. But no, we do not have every back. No, I didn't even know we were going to talk about this. But the backs came up in OJLXA. So we just rattled names off the top of our head.

It's an honest mistake. It's not like we know what Jameer Gibbs is. He was special sensation. He can run any game. Well, you're about the closest thing we done seen to Chris Johnson, boy. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy says, fast break, pump fake, big mistake. No

legend in fact. Hey, what you saying today had me dying, boy? S-T-A-P-G-A-R-U-S-A. U-S-A. Well, I was in tears. That was funny.

Kevin Brooks, I'll get on to you. Build a starting offense and defense using NFL football players that are in the media or used to be in the media. Well, that's easy.

Me, Strahan, Gronk, Brady. Moss. Ocho, Moss. Fred Taylor, Ryan Clark. Sorry, Dio. You ain't made the cut. First of all, you're not beating out Brady or Troy. So, and because of the money, we're limited to only two quarterbacks.

So, I'm sorry. Who else? Let me try to think. Hold on. Who else? Who else am I missing? Who else am I missing? Oh, Charles Woodson. What?

Yeah. Who else? Who else come on there? I guess we got to put up. What do you call come on there I guess we got to put up what you call them on there Damian Woody we need somebody to block Ocho

JJ Watt I mean hey deal don't feel bad. Matt Ryan didn't make it either. So, yeah, Kelsey, playmaker. Playmaker. Deion in the media football coach uh

is Fitz does Fitzgerald do anything for the I guess you take Sherm yeah Jason Witt yeah yeah

yeah yeah Jason Witt yeah yeah yeah yeah Saturday Greg Olson uh Gonzo yay oh yeah

I'm just saying how many tight ends we playing we got but two I know I'm gonna be one of the tight ends I don't know who else gonna be one but I'm gonna be you already said Gronk so you with? It got me too. I know I'm going to be one of the tight ends. I don't know who else is going to be one, but I'm going to be one. You already said Gronk, so you got to go between Gronk and whatchamacallit.

Gronk and Gonzo. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Greg. I'm sorry. Eagle stand, a standout rookie, Quinn Yon Mitchell, got a wild tattoo after winning the Super Bowl

hell of a year wow round one pick 20 what 22 is that 22 Super Bowl champs

got a lot done in one day till next time bro hey that's live Got a lot done in one day. Till next time, bro. Woo! Hey, that's live. I don't care if I won 15 Super Bowls. You ain't tapping that. Hell no. That thing hurt.

Oh, you ain't got no tattoos? Mm-mm. See? Now we can add that to the list of things to do in 2025. Get you a tattoo. What'd that mean? Help you, buddy. Nah, that ain't finna happen.

Hey, it's so funny. I mean, when I think think about it i would think someone like you would have tattoos then my crazy my crazy tale i got 44 and you just talk about you ain't got none i thought the only time i ever thought about getting a tattoo uh what's her name what's her name i found i found no name my m. Mary V. Porter. That's her name. And my sister, because I was telling my sister about it, and my sister's like, Shannon, that'd be so nice. My sister found something

where my grandmother wrote her name, Mary V. Porter. And I thought about it. I said, baby, I would love to. I said, but you know, Granny would be so mad. She hated tattoos. Okay, okay, okay. She's like, son, don't mark your body up. Okay, I got you. You know, Granddad be so mad. She hated tattoos. Okay, okay, okay.

She's like, son, don't mark your body up. Okay, I got you. You know, you got them old people talking about me. She's like, like I'm actually drawing on my body. Like I'm scribbling something. And I thought about it, and I had the piece of, the thing that she had wrote her name on, and I was going to take it to a tattoo and put it right over my heart.

That's what I'm going to put it right here. Right, right. And I just thought about it. I said, man, Granny, man. Granny probably be, boy, Granny roll over in her grave. I could just hear her now, son. Why you mark your body like that?

Even if it's her name, she still would be satisfied. Nah. Listen, my grandma, maybe I don't know if I was 15 or 16, but I got Philippians 4.13. I could do all things through Christ would strengthen me. And I got a text when I came home. Oh, she was pissed, boy.

Boy, she was pissed. Why? Why she was pissed. I was like, well, listen, I just, I just thought about, you know, something that would like something that would resonate with me and resonates with you as well, because you're the one who had me in Bible study. You want to add me in church every Sunday? Boy, she was hot. Not only was she hot years later, I got about my senior year in high school i was probably up to 22 tattoos by that point what yeah i'm i'm covered up everywhere i just you never see it

because i'm i'm normally covered up so if you see it yeah i like us yeah it's hard to see in the dark that was you and i'm covered up everywhere man, from my ankle all the way up, man, to my, yeah. I almost did my face by accident, too. I'm glad I didn't. Boy, please. No, nothing big, nothing big. You know, small, small, small, small stuff. But I didn't do it.

Nah, you did the right thing. Don't do that, Ocho. Why would you do that, Ocho? I'm just, I don't know. You thought about it. You ain't have nothing better to do with your time. I really did. I really did think about it.

I did. I did. I was going through a phase. I was going through a phase. What was her name? I was going to put on my face? Yeah. I was going to put a little cross.

A little tiny cross. Right here on the side. No. Just a little tiny cross. I ain't do it though. I ain't do it. It wouldn't look too good on TV. Yeah, no.

I couldn't do that. I mean, congratulations to Quin do that I mean congratulations to uh I mean hey bro congrats I mean first round pick rookie season go to the bowl you know a lot of times when you have that level of success you like man it's easy

it ain't there's a lot of guys that play 13 14 15 years and never go, let alone win. I mean, just think about you're a Chiefs player and you came here three years ago. You don't know nothing about Super Bowls. Yeah. And winning.

Yeah. You played with Tom Brady all those years. That's a lie. Somebody said Amber Rose. Yeah, Amber Rose got her sons tattooed on her forehead. Hey, and she can get rid of that though, right?

Because technology is so advanced now. Yeah, you can rid of it. Man, that thing hurt. She ain't getting rid of them. I mean, I don't know if you saw the interview, Ocho. She keeping that. Yeah, I saw it.

It was good. It was good. I mean, Ocho, for me, I like talking to people. Like, a lot of these people, I saw it. It was good. I mean, for me, I like talking to people like, a lot of these people I had no idea I would ever meet. Talk to a Tabitha Brown or a Miss

Pat or Amber Rose. People like that. Some of these athletes, man, I'm sitting down, I'm talking to Magic Johnson. Crazy. Talking to Cat and Donnell Rollins and all these comedians and Gary Owen and Bruce Bruce and LaVell Crawford. I've seen Bruce

Bruce many times before him in Atlanta. Waiting and to sit down and talk to him. And you're right, you have a perception. And then when you get down and talk to the person, and I'm not talking about so much on camera, I'm talking about you get an opportunity to talk to them before and after. Then you have, I like, okay.

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Hey. Oh, Lord have mercy. Hey. That would be Black Cowboy. You know I can ride? You know I rode a bull. I can ride horses, man. I rode two. Oh, yeah.

I could ride like crazy. She was a filly, though. You know what I'm saying? I was just like that. I was just like that too, Ocho. Just like that. Just like that. And the matter of fact, Ocho, I had one hand out too, Ocho.

Just like that. Yeah, yeah. Get how I was Listen I went on the trail ride I had the kids with me The baby had her own horse All my kids had their own horse So I'm on the trail

I told the guy on the trail I said, sir, listen I know how to ride, I have experience So if at any point I might drift off the trail most of the time the trail horses they discipline they don't want to leave they always want to stand line and well we got about 10 minutes into that trail and i got bored man i came up by that trail and i i'll see y'all later man man. I was gone. I was gone. And my camera,

they had, the kids, all the kids, they was going back. The trail, the trail ride over. Right. And they put me coming in on the back, on the back end. Like 30 minutes later,

I came in hauling. You should have went, you should be in Philly because Philly got those, those black cowboys. You see that? You saw that? Did you see that documentary? Yeah. No, no. I didn't see the documentary. Every time I go to Philly got those black cowboys. You see that? Did you see that documentary?

Yeah. No, no, I didn't see the documentary. Every time I go to Philly, I never know where the horses are. When I go to Houston, when I go to Tech, when I go to... But they got the rodeo.

You should have went last week because they had the rodeo. They got the rodeo going on. Yeah, but I want to ride. Every time I see people at the rodeo, they partying and turning up. I don't care about turning up. Now, if you got horses or you got bulls or something,

you know, I can partake in. Now, that's something I'm excited to do. No. I'm going to sit there and watch and see what they got to eat interesting. They got fried Twinkies, fried Twix, the Snickers and stuff like that, funnel cakes.

I'm looking. Nah, nah, nah, nah. If I'm going to a rodeo, I want just that. Funnel cakes. I'm looking. Nah, nah, nah. If I'm going to a rodeo, I want just that. I want the experience. I want to smell shit. You know? Horses.

Bull. I want to ride. I don't smell enough hog, cow, chicken, turkey, goat, dog, cat. I'm good. See, that's not fair. I grew up in the inner city.

I don't know. I grew up in the inner city. I don't know. I grew up in the inner city, so I have an appreciation for, you know, for cows and, you know, pigs and that stuff. I got an appreciation, too. That's why I don't want to spell no more. Yeah. I got a great appreciation for it.

Being there all the time, macho, let me know I didn't want to be this. I didn't want to be that no more. Listen, lucky there are places, if I just got a new house, now, the way things are going on

right now, if I just, if you see me with a stable, they eat too much, Ocho. And a few horses. They eat your ass out of the house and home. I'm going to blame you. I'm going to blame you. I'm going to blame Ash.

I'm going to blame Doug. Ash can tell you. Ash, Ash, Ash, Ash. Mom got a ranch. Hold on. One horse won't be bad now. One horse? What?

It's just me. One horse eat like 10 dogs. See, I don't know how dogs eat because I be on the road. I don't know what that's like. Boy, they eat. Them horses can eat. Hey. For real?

Sweet. Yes. Oh, Joe. Joe can weigh up to 100 pounds. I know. Yeah, but give me a number. Give me a number. A month.

I know, Ash. You know, what what we talking about and the vet bills what you think a couple of thousand yeah yeah what year yeah it all depends like how well you gonna keep it because obviously in miami you gotta

have you're gonna have to stable him somewhere else then you know you know all the horses in davy i just bought a new house a new house out there in davy so that the stable you're not gonna store him at your house he's not stored at a facility at the stable yeah matter of fact it's called uh bm bm bar ranch i think i said that right bm bar ranch which is where i take yeah i'm gonna say somewhere like 40 50 000 a year oh that that ain't bad that ain't bad i'm good i'll tell you what i'm gonna call my guy tomorrow i call i'm gonna call uh uh bob baffert He's a good friend of mine. I'm going to ask him. Okay. I'm going to say, Bob, how much?

With the gray hair? Yeah. American Pharaoh justified? Yes. Tell him to let me get one of his horses. You don't want one of them horses. Nah. They don't feed them. Just pay it for it. Oh, yeah. Listen, I already know.

I already know. I mean, some of those horses, you're paying $300,000, $400,000 for a live foal. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I don't want that part.

I love horses, but not to that extent. No, no, no, no, no. Like horses, I take a little mini cow, a little mini goat. I like them. A boat, that's something I never wanted

right I ain't never wanted no boat boat B-O-A-T you know B-O-A-T stand for Joe bust out another thousand that's what you gotta do to keep it cause you keep it on salt water you gotta

constantly keep that salt water grinding down. But no, I'm good. If I was to get, see, I wouldn't want a boat. If anything, I would have my, anything outside of my norm, it would have to be extravagant. So if I'm going to get a boat, it got to be a yacht. It just can't be no any yacht. I want a yacht like Jerry Jones. I want a yacht like Shahid Khan.

I mean, I would never reach that type of wealth. You talking about $100, $200 million? Yeah, that's what I said. I would never reach that type of wealth. It's just a thought of if I'm going to do it, it would have to be like that. I ain't going to have to ask it. Oh, no, that's not happening. I go rent one, you know, for a day for me and the kids.

Give me a bass boat. And I ain't trying to get in boat. I can fish from the shore. What about it? You said a bass boat or a fast? A bass boat. Okay. Yeah. They're not expensive. Yeah, no. I could be like

Kevin Van Damme or Mike Iaconella or E. Smith. Somebody like that. Right, right, right. Phil Dance, Roland Martin, Ernest Hensley. Yeah, I don't know the yacht. I don't like water like that. How do you fish? That's boring.

My grandparents got me into fishing, and that was an opportunity for us to be with them. And, you know, Grandpa, when I come up, I don't know how y'all did it, but y'all wasn't sitting up on no grandparents, so that was really your time to bond. I hate, you know, at the time, I used to hate it. Hey, my grandfather on one side, me and Spanky, my brother.

Me and my brother on one side. That joke will holler across the lake. Hey, bring me some more baits. What did you do? Say you'll be what? Hey, one of y'all bring me y'all rod. He done got his rod caught on a stump or something and broke the line. Now we got to take him out rod.

Now we sitting up there like this here because we ain't got nothing to fish with. Yeah, I can't do it. Or my grandma, hey boy, bring me the tackle box. Oh, Lord have mercy. Jeez. Yeah, I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't have the patience for it. I can sit on my PC or PS5 or Xbox and I can play Warzone, Call of Duty, FIFA, EAFC.

I can sit there and do that for eight, nine hours. No. Every day. No. But if you tell me to go fishing for an hour and I got to sit there and wait for the fish, I got to sit there and wait on the fish and wait for the bite. Man, no. 30 minutes, I'm clocking bite man i know 30 minutes i'm clocking out i'm clocking out we be going fishing all day oh what all day we go early in the morning and please hey oh yeah um especially we go saltwater

fishing we go down to like uh sapalo island That's where they brought the Geechies. That's where they offloaded a lot of them and they still speak that Gullah. So we go to Sapelo Island and we go we be gone all day. Even if we go to those lakes, we go to like Needle Island Lake or something like that. Man, don't you know we be gone all day.

I can't do it. Hey, my grandma loved to fish and as she got older man, my sister used to take her to the thing and be out there by it. Hey, my grandma loved to fish, and as she got older, man, my sister used to take her to the thing and be out there by herself. Okay, let me come back and get me around five o'clock. My sister take my grandma out there. It'd be hot.

Yeah. Her and my aunt, her and my aunt, Aunt Emma, they go down to salt water. She taught my grandma how to throw a reel because for the longest time, my grandma fished with a cane pole. Aunt She taught my grandma how to throw a reel because for the longest time, my grandma fished with a cane pole.

Aunt Emma taught my grandma how to throw a rod, huh? With a cane pole? Yeah. With a string tied on the front of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a cane pole. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, somebody told me, yeah.

Yeah, we caught catch brim, wallmouth, white perch, croaker, shad, bony ass shad, nasty fish. shad nasty all of somebody put sapolo in there what y'all know about sapolo what's sapolo that's uh it's from australia it's near savannah but that's where the geeks right sapolo island charleston they offloaded a lot of people that looked like us a long time ago. And a lot of it's original. It's there. When you go and you see it, you're like, it looks just like it did

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