Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Mavericks blow out Kings, Heat beat the Bulls + Bianca Belair joins the show to talk about WrestleMania 41!

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to the Mavericks beating the Kings, the Heat beating the Bulls on the road + Bianca Belair talks about her career and WrestleMania 41!04:51 - Intro07:55 - Mavs vs. Kings20:22 - Heat vs Bulls30:41 - Anonymous GM says they hope Nico Harrison stays to keep a desperate GM51:30 - Bianca Belair joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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As the Mavs blow out the Kings, the game really wasn't that close at any point in time. I mean, 14 points at one point in time. They had it up as many as 24 points. Joe, I'm going to ask you this. Did tonight win redeem Nico Harrison? Does he make, does the Mavericks fan say, you know what? AD ain't that bad after all.

He gave us, what'd he give us? 27, nine, three blocks of assists to steal. Plus 10 in the plus minus. 27, nine, and three. We can live with that. It's all well and dollars after they advance plus, minus, 27-9-3. We can live with that. It's all well and dallas after they advance to face the Memphis Grizzlies for a chance to be the eighth seed and face the OKC Thunder. No, I don't think it's all well and dallas.

It was a good performance by AD. But I kind of feel like the Mavericks, they're going to get cheated this year, man. They don't have Kyrie without an ACL injury. And you know at some point, even maybe next game, they need guys like him who can take over, create havoc on offense, and

put guys in the right position. So I think it's going to be tough, man. They still got their work cut out. They got to play against Memphis in Memphis, right? Yep. Memphis can't lose that game, man. That's going to be a good one. But let me ask you this. Are you concerned about the health of Ja?

Now, we saw him hurt that ankle. He stayed out for a significant amount of time. He tried to come back in. But you know you've probably had that injury where you go to shoot a shot, you land on someone's foot, ankle, you roll your ankle. How sore is he going to be? Is there enough time between they played last night, you had Thursday off, and you have tomorrow off, and then you'll play on Friday?

Yeah, he young. He going to heal up quick. If that was me and you having a square, it's going to take us about three weeks to a month to get back. He going to bounce right back. weeks to a month to get back. He's going to bounce right back. He's going to be ready to go. He understands the moment, I think.

And knowing that it's in Memphis, I'm sure he's not going to let them fans down. So I expect John to put on a show, man. Ocho, this game, Dallas Mavericks, they win 120-106. Anthony Davis, I mean, they got contributions everywhere. AD had 27. P.J. Washington had 17. Klay had 23. I mean, they got contributions everywhere. AD had 27. P.J. Washington had 17. Klay had 23. This is why they got Klay.

Off the bench, Dante Exum had 11. Brandon Williams had 17 in 18 minutes. 5 of 6 from the 4. 3 of 4 from the 3-point line. 4 of 4 from the free-throw line. The bench was very, very good for the Dallas Mavericks to overcome. DeMar DeRozan had 33. Zach Levine had a quiet 20.

They didn't get the kind of production they normally get from some owners. He only had 11, 13, and 5, but he's normally somewhere around 17, 18. Give you that, and they needed that tonight. But Dallas go on the road to Sacramento and win this game. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Dallas? I mean, this is exactly what you expected them to do. This is exactly what you expected them to do. Obviously, the fans have been mad about the trade and AD coming and Luka leaving.

Luka coming in, trying to remind you why I should have stayed. But all this is for the Dallas fans and the organization for the Mavericks as well is you put a Band-Aid on the gas. That's all it is. This is what you're supposed to do to Sacramento. So what you're going to see is later on down the line, when it comes time for a seven-game series, things are going to be a little different. You don't have Kyrie.

He's hurt. Most of the bulk of everything is going to be on 80. They have to, what's the word I'm looking for? Be a score, a 30, a 32, a 35, to be able to lead that team to another series, which Luke was able to do with Kyrie. I don't think he's going

to be able to do it. Yeah, you definitely need, and Joe, you can speak to this, in the playoffs, you need a guy that you can put the ball

in his hands and he can go get you a bucket. Yeah, that's true. And it's nice to have that as a guard because you don't have to get him the ball.

He can come get the ball, bring it up, and Kyrie can distribute. Kyrie can get his shot from anywhere. He can finish in the paint, given that he's not an above-the-rim player. But his layup package and his ability to handle and create a shot for himself or someone else is second to none. And so to that, going on the road now, you look at Memphis. They got Triple J, who did not have a great performance the other night. Job was good.

Desmond Bain played unbelievable. Pippen Jr. played really well. What does Dallas have to do to go in and to create a similar performance to what they had tonight, Joe? He's going to have to be dominant. He's going to have to be dominant, Joe? AD's going to have to be dominant. He's going to have to be dominant, man. He's going to have to put up big numbers in order for them to win. I know they pretty much played by committee.

You know, Klay got off to a pretty good start tonight. You know, he tried to borrow really well. But they definitely, they got guys who can put up numbers now. They got guys coming off their bench who can definitely chip in and help. But I think with their size, they're going to get missed with some problems as well, though. That's why AD is able to kind of roam because he got Lively

and Gafford down there to kind of clog up the paint. You know what I mean? Yep. And he gets to play when Lively's on the floor. He always gets to play for the most part, he gets to play the four, which he loves to play because when you have Lively, you bring in a Daniel Gafford. You're right.

They're a big team. You look at P.J. Washington. Goes about 6'8". Lively goes about 6'11", a 7-foot. A.D. goes 6'10". Daniel Gafford, 6'9", 6'10". This is a very, very big ball club. And so the front line, and they challenge a lot of shots.

They had eight blocks tonight. A.D. had three. Gafford had two. And so you know nothing. Hey, it's simple a lot of shots. They had eight blocks tonight. AD had three. Gafford had two. And so you know nothing. Hey, it's simple philosophy to play off. Nothing cheap. Nothing cheap, man. Nothing easy.

You coming to play? I got to put you down. I'm sorry. But when Memphis got JJ and Big Eden down there, you know, they're going to cause some havoc as well. Right. I do expect John to really put on a pretty good performance because they're going to need him. They're going to need some havoc as well. Right. I do expect Ja to really put on a pretty good performance because they're going to need him.

They're going to need his leadership, you know, definitely on the court for them to be able to continue. And whoever wins the game, they got a whole case to it. That's your prize, huh? You got a whole case to it. You're going to be in for a fight. What? Yeah.

Are you surprised that Spencer Dinwiddiedie who's been a major contributor he only got two minutes of mop-up duty tonight i was surprised they went with xm as opposed to spencer denwiddie what is it that you think jake kid saw that he says you know what the minutes that we normally give denwiddie we're gonna give those minutes Exum, because he played 19 minutes, and he was insane. He had 11 points, 4-4, 1-1 from the three-point line, and both of his free throws had three rebounds, had

what? Six assists, a steal. He brings good energy, Aug. He brings good energy to the table. I think Dinwiddie is more of an offensive threat, and Exum is going to come in, and he's going to be more of an X-factor. He bring good energy to the table. I think Denwood is more of an offensive threat. Yes. And Edgman going to come in and he going to be more of an X factor. He's going to play hard defensively.

He going to knock down the shots if he opens, especially in that corner. So I think he probably just leaned a little more on Edgman, probably because he had a little bit more confidence in him tonight. And plus, he's looking to get everybody involved, as opposed to Spencer Denwood looking to get his shot up. Yeah, Denwood is trying to get into his bag. Yeah. Denwood is saying, I'm playing for a contract, bro. Keep it a buck with you.

I'm trying to get this contract. You're right. I think the thing is with Edie, look, he reminds me. I think the thing is when you look at Memphis, when they were at their best, they had, what's the guy, what's the big guy they had? He just traded into Houston. Adams. Steven Adams.

Yeah, big Steven Adams. Yeah. Job was tremendous in the pick and roll. He gave the, Adams gave them extra opportunities. Zach Eady can do that, but Zach is going to have to be a little bit more active because I think he's a better offensive weapon. He was player of the year.

No matter what you think of him, his game, college game, compared to the NBA, he was a player of the year. He wasn't All-American. And so he has the offensive skills. Now, it's not him shooting threes, but around the rim, I'm not so sure they run a whole lot of plays offensive skills now it's not gonna do you know him shooting threes but around the rim i'm not so sure they run a whole lot of plays for him he's not a guy that you run hey you

want you want 14 points get it off the rim there you go you got to get it off the rim because the thing is we're having them on the floor they're gonna keep them in picking roles you know what i mean because he's probably gonna play pay play back a lot of the times. He's not going to be up to the pick. And for the guards, you know, that's definitely essential for them trying to get to the basket and just create opportunities for everybody on the squad. That's where Kyrie would be extra beneficial. Because you put E.D. in the pick and roll, and you know he doesn't want to hedge, and he doesn't have the lateral quickness,

or the, excuse me, the quickness, or to be able to drop back. So Kyrie, like, oh, yeah, this, ooh. Oh, man, as Shaq would say, barbecue chicken. And barbecue, jumpers, floaters, passes, like, it'll be a pretty sight to see. But like I said, they got other guys on their team who are capable of having big nights

or even winning you a game in the playoffs, and that's what you need. Yeah. Nick Marshall did a lot of having the ball tonight. They let Clay bring it up early, but Nick Marshall was really in charge. I thought Exum coming in gave him a boost of energy, as you mentioned. Brandon Williams was sensational. He was absolutely sensational. 17 points in 18 minutes

he got it and got it going early and a lead that was like eight nine all of a sudden became 18 19 20 yeah what's what's the name not no not you oh naji marshall my bad naji marshall i thought you was talking about brandon william'm like, I'm seeing Williams. Yeah. Najee Marshall. He did a lot of ball handling, but he's not a natural point guard. He's not a natural facilitator. And I think that gets a lot of teams because, oh, he can handle the ball.

Just because you can handle the ball doesn't mean you can run an offense. Right. And I think we saw that with the Phoenix Suns because Booker, yeah, Book can handle the ball, but Book is a two. You go back and look at the Suns and study them. They work best when they have CP3. Hey, Katie, you can get that shot right there. Hey, Book, you can get this right here.

Stop pretending just because somebody can handle the ball, they can run an offense. Those are two different things. Handling the ball, running an offense. It's just like a quarterback. Oh, Joe, you know, hey, he can throw the ball, but can't even run an offense. Right, nah.

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Watch your hands? Yeah, my bad. The earlier game, we saw the Miami Heat go on the road and just do a demolition job. Yeah. The Bulls... Look, the Bulls have really been playing well as of late.

You look at Kobe White. You look at Josh Giddey, Brazellas. They got Vucevic. They got a back. Hurta can knock down the threes, but Tyler Hero was in his bag early, and they really didn't have an answer for him. You look at him, he was 13 of 19 from the field, three of seven from the three,

nine of 10 from the free throw line. You had Bam gave you 15 and 12 rebounds. Wiggins, Andrew Wiggins gave you 20 points and nine rebounds. They got off the bench. Davion Mitchell gave you 15. They just never let the Bulls get into this game. They took the crowd out early,

and the crowd was never able to get into this game, Joe. Man, hey, that's Heat culture, man. See, those guys are proven. They done been to the finals. They know what it's like to play in big games. The Bulls kind of showed their inexperience today because the Heat just kind of went in there and just took what they wanted. I like how Hero played.

He was very, very efficient. And he just caused havoc all night. Bam, doing what he does defensively, being disruptive, scoring, making plays. I thought they had a great team effort against the Bulls. The Bulls didn't really give me what I was looking for. I agree. Go ahead, OJ. Hey, let me tell you, this is what you're going to expect from the Heat. This is what we did

on the road. So, regardless I don't care who our matchup is obviously. I'm going to tell you this we might come out the East. So, I don't want anybody... Y'all might come out of Miami, but that's the only thing y'all coming out of Don't do that

Don't do that Don't do that Don't do that Now you saw what Bam did tonight You saw what Tyler Hero did tonight You saw the contribution We got from everybody else He

Come out east I don't want to hear nothing About nobody was surprised Or we can't believe this happened They let Jimmy Butler go And they still were able To make it out of east Y'all be lucky to get a game Y'all be lucky to get a game. Y'all be

lucky to get a game or two off the Cavs. Hey, hold on. Hold on. Wait, come again? Y'all not beating the Cavs? So you think the heat you saw tonight won't be able to beat the Cavs? No.

Hey, they got to come here and beat the Hawks on Friday. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. They got to come here and beat the Hawks on Friday. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. That's what you're talking about. They got to come see the Hawks on Friday, baby. We're going to be in that thing ready. You hear me? We got to beat the who?

The Hawks. The Atlanta Hawks. He's got to come play. Oh, Joe. Is it cold out there? Hey. I just played. Hey, you know I just played like this, baby.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on now. Let me tell you. Listen, I know you're down in Atlanta I know you're playing for the Hawks But let's be serious Let's be serious With all due respect to Trey Young There's nothing that the Atlanta Hawks

Can do with the Miami Heat So y'all going home I got the Hawks, Ocho Friday, baby We gonna have that thing jumping. You hear me? Yeah, ATL all the way. Y'all going to be jumping, but it's going to be the wrong way.

You know DC going to be in the house? Probably Boosie going to be there. Come on now. It's going to be soft-studded, that thing, Ocho. Hey, Ocho, you know what? You need to come on down and let Coach check it out with your boy. When is the game? This Friday.

This Friday? Yeah. My daughter tracked me. She run at University of Florida. You know, she run for University of Kentucky. So I got to go to the track and just be game. Okay. Who you got, Hulk?

Man, I'm playing. All right. I'm playing. Oh, hey. When the dirty boyall want to make a light little bet or not? No, you don't pay your bets. Oh, yeah. You don't pay. No, I don't want to make nothing with you.

Okay, I'm just making sure. I mean, listen, you believe so much in this. I mean, what you want to do? Put it on the floor. But I also believe in this, which you haven't paid me. Man. Hey, Joe, I hate the fact we're talking basketball right now. He's talking about that. Joe, you got cash out, Joe?

You brought it up. I mean, Joe, you got cash out? Yeah, I got it out. I got it out. You got it out. You got Apple Pay? You got Venmo? You got PayPal? Yeah. Okay, case closed. He don't want to download none of them.

He could have had his money about seven months ago. I don't have that, Joe. I don't have a whole lot of apps on my phone. Okay. I don't have email. And I think you have to have email to put this thing up. So why am I going to get... Why don't you just give me my money?

You're trying to get me to do all this? Hey, he ought to download this, right, Joe? You got cash app, you got Venmo. Don't worry about what that man got. Give me my damn money. Hey, that man spent that little $5,200. Yeah, he better. I see him riding around like,

hey man, $700,000. You hear me? That ain't no. And that's what I'm saying. They talking about he playing. This man, hey, this man a year. That ain't no. That's what I'm saying. This man ain't playing to my face. He's putting on a Broadway play in my face. Joe, what the hell are you doing?

It's like, come on. My bad, Joe. My bad. My bad. I'm leaving. I'm staying out of it. I ain't got nothing to do with it. Joe, don't stay out of it. All right. Joe, don't stay out of it. Okay. All right. All right.

All right. Go back to hell with Joe. I tried to figure out this man. Joe, honestly, he know I'm not the type of person that carries cash. I never have been. I keep $100 on me at a time in 20s. That's it. I don't carry no cash. If you really wanted your money, you're going to download one of them apps, create an email,

and then delete it after I sent you your money. How about this here? Take your eBay from good times looking ass to the bank. Draw a withdrawal of $5,200. It'll bring me my damn money. Oh, man. You keep

on talking about what I need to do. Why do I got to do all of this for money that you owe me? That's just like if I owe the bank. Now, what y'all need to do. Why do I got to do all of this for money that you owe me? That's just like if I owe the bank. Now what y'all need to do is to go set up this and to go set up that. Nah. Hey, can I tell you something? What? Everything you

do, it dates back to prehistoric times. We are in 2025. When people make transactions, they use apps that make it very simple. We don't have to go to a bank and withdraw money. Here, if I owe you something, give me your cash app. Give me your Venmo. Give me your PayPal email.

Give me your Apple Pay, and I'm going to send you your 5,200. The limit is 75. I only owe you 52. You didn't want to do that. I've done everything possible I can to give you your money. So now you got to wait until I see you in June in Baltimore. Oh, Joe, I just got direct deposit in 2016 because Fox said they would not send me a paper check. I had to get direct deposit in 2016.

Up until that, everybody that I had ever worked for gave me a check. CBS sent me a check. I would go upstairs and get my check from the from the broncos and the ravens i didn't have i like to see my money man old school man you want to see it so i want to see my power hey listen hey no you want to be george flintstone so bad i bet you start Chicago with your C200. Come on, man. Fred Pistole. Oh, George Fred. George is a Jetson.

Oh, my bad. My bad. No. Hey, when you go to the bank, how do they give you the money? They count it out. They're right there in front of you. Yeah.

One, two, three, four, five. That's how you want to count mine out. That's how I want him to count mine out. Okay. Listen, that's how you start bad habits. That's how you start bad habits. That ain't no bad. That's how you start bad habits. Hey, withdrawing any amount of money over $1,000 is how you start bad habits.

I'm just telling you how I live. You got your way of living. I got my... The bad habit I started is that I let you slide after the first week you ain't paid my money. I should have be held out you like Stewie did Brian when he owed him that money. Hey, can I tell you one thing about Beat Me? You know these hands are registered, right?

That's okay. My thing is registered too. And then 52 on it. Yeah, I've been told that. He told me. Hey, Joe, it drew an interesting story. That's about it. Oh!

I'm used to it. Check, y'all see how he talking. I'm just trying to figure out. I'm just trying to figure out. You're leaving a prehistoric times. Why do I have to download things to get my money? Because it's convenient. It's convenient. It's not supposed to be convenient for you. It's supposed to be convenient for me. Exactly. That's why you download the app

and I just send you the money. It takes two seconds. Two. I ain't got two seconds. Like if we was a tussle, how long it take to get rid of you and drop you? Two seconds. If we was a tussle, how long it take to get rid of you and drop you? Two seconds. I promise you. Lord have mercy. I tell you what. I tell you what. Me and you wrestle.

I'll put that $5,200 up. Bad. So make it light on yourself. I can give you what James Harris is going to get. How you want it? No, we going to wrestle. We got a wrestling match. If I throw you, you owe me $10,400. If you want it? We going to wrestle. We got a wrestling match. If I throw you,

you owe me 10-4. If you throw me, we even. Can I ask you a question? Ask me whatever you like. Boy, do you see that? You think you throwing anything over here?

Yep. You ain't the only one been in the gym now. I'm just different over here now. This ain't the same Ocho when we first started the show. I'm 220. I promise you,

whatever change you got in your pocket, I'm going to slam your ass so hard it's going to come out. So whatever you got in your damn pockets, I guarantee you it's coming out. I ain't going to go in your pockets and get it. I'm going to throw you on your damn head. Yo, check this out. He's just an interesting story. Show me. Joe, check this out. An anonymous NBA exec hopes the Mavericks keep Nico Harrison in charge.

It's always good to have a desperate GM out there. They saying Nico desperate? Look, you and I both know, Joe, when you move somebody like Luka, that's not a general manager decision. That's ownership. Yeah. I give you an example. When they traded, when the Lakers traded Shaq, did anybody think that was anybody else's decision other than Dr. Jerry Busses? That wasn't Jerry West.

That wasn't any Mitch Kutcher. That wasn't anybody to Jim. That was a doctor bus decision when you move luca that is upper management that's above nico's pay grade now nico is taking all the hits all the victory all the all the fans are giving and everybody's keep all the general managers keeping him in charge when they know damn well that was Dumont's call. Period. And that's why I say I feel like the Mariners got cheated because I still think with Kyrie and that team that they have right now

that's playing, they had a chance to really make some noise in the playoffs or be a top seed in the playoffs. They fighting for their life right now. With them just getting their guys healthy, it's like everything just kind of came crashing down all at once. You know what I mean? It's like, dang, we traded

our franchise guy, Lupa. Now that Kyrie get hurt, on top of all the other injuries that we keep accumulating. He was hurt. Lively was hurt. Gafford got hurt. It just started stockpiling and things just kind of started going south. And I think that's what really put our eyes on it

because they just started going downhill from there. Hey, I have a question. If management is responsible for the Luca trade, why are they sitting back and letting Nico Collins take all the heat? Why don't they do what Jerry Jones does? Come out, say something, let the let the people know listen this is how we felt based on us having to invest the type of money we felt in luca we felt it was in the best interest to make him move

instead of putting that kind of money into him for the next five five to seven years whatever it may have been that's simple that's why a lot of times you put people in position because you know poop rolls downhill. So it ain't going to stay up on the hill because the hill is where the owner is. So it's going to roll down and cover Nico. And Nico says, you know what, I'll take it. He understands that's a part of his job is to take some of that blowback. A lot of general managers, it's just like anything.

People get upset when you trade a player. When you trade a player like that that's ownership ain't no way ain't no way you overcome this i'm saying let's say let's say they end up losing to memphis and they get katie this summer oh okay now you right back but but joe let me ask you this Because this notion that if you drop KD in, you're automatically a championship contending team. Now, maybe that was upon a time you dropped them in at Golden State, but they were 73-9. That didn't work out in Brooklyn, and it went horrible. It went even worse than Phoenix that it did in Brooklyn,

and we know how it ended in Brooklyn. Yeah. So are we sure? We know how great, historically great KD is. He's one of the great all-time bucket getters, as efficient as anybody has ever been, that mainly shoots the ball and doesn't play with his back to the rim. But are we sure?

If we drop KD in anywhere, they are a championship contending team? No, we're not sure. You know, I think it'll be a good look because everything still kind of centers around Kyrie. Is he going to come back? When is he going to start playing again? That's going to be when? Next year? Probably.

I'm thinking the 2026 season. Yeah, see, with just Durant and AD, I mean, I like it, but I just need that PG. I need Kyrie the one healthy, man. Yes. Yeah. And look, I agree, but here's the thing. Do you have the assets? There's only a handful of teams that can appease maybe what the Phoenix Suns

want as far as players and the draft capital. That's OKC. I don't think KD wants to go back to OKC. Because I'm going to tell you now, I'm going to want Jalen Williams. I'm going to want Lou Dort. I'm going to get Chet Hungry to Hardenstein, and I'm going to need three or four draft picks.

But this is the thing. Let's say if KD does happen to go to AKC, the production that you get offensively having KD there with SGA, it can replenish losing those players. No, because what makes them so good is the perimeter defenders. Jalen Williams, tremendous on the ball. You got Lou Dort, tremendous on the ball. I'm going to take one of those bigs because I need a big.

That's what I need in Phoenix. Because when you had D.A., DeAndre Ayton, but for whatever reason, him and Monty couldn't get along. They reluctantly, they waited until the last minute, and then I think they matched Indiana. I think Indiana put an offer on him, and they ended up matching him and he hated that and so he ended up they ended up going to portland and it fell apart and money got fired they bring in frank vogel he gets fired they bring in uh mike boone hoser he gets fired yeah so it's like hold on you got 80 million dollars tied up in coaches

that's not gonna coach coach for you next year. So I get it. But I think the thing is that we might need to – and look, I'm looking at it. I don't know without looking at it what the Mavericks have as far as draft compensation. Now, they didn't have to give up – they had to give up something because they traded for Kyrie. Yeah.

Now, what actually did they give up to get Kyrie? Right now you get, you get what the 2028 first round pick from the Lakers and you got, uh, Max Christie and AD. That's really the only draft compensation that you got. You need multiple because think about what you gave up to get Katie, all those draft picks that you gave up and you gave up two young

solid players. You gave up Mikael Bridges and you gave up Cam Johnson. Yeah. So you're going to have to replace that. Now, maybe Joe, they still have Isaiah Joe who can defend. They still have

Carl Wiggins who can defend. You have Caruso who can defend. You have Caruso, who can defend. So they might be willing to give up a Jalen Williams, give up a Lou Dort, give up a Hartenstein, give up three first-round draft picks because they got so many draft picks. But if I'm Phoenix, I need players that can come in and play, but I also need that draft compensation to restock the coffers

of what I gave up to get KD. And you don't want to give up your blue-collar workers, man. Not all your blue-collars. I like Harnstein, Dork, them blue-collar workers that, you know, that play big minutes defensively. Understand their roles. Yeah, there we go. They definitely understand their role, and they're going to play it,

and they're going to star in it. So it's hard giving up players like that, man. Ocho, what you thinking? I like it. I like it. I'm just kidding. I like it. Oh, my goodness.

I don't think it's going to happen. Oh, he's moving. It's just aware. They're going to move it. Yeah. Well, I told you I wanted to go. If it's not OKC, if it's not Dallas, obviously I like Joe saying what happened

in Dallas, but you're going to come on down here to Miami, man. Come on here down to Miami. I think, Pat, we need a superstar. We need a superstar. I'm not saying it's LeBron. Which house are you giving up? Tyler Hero. Pat ain't giving up Tyler Hero. We're not giving up Bam.

You ain't giving up Tyler Hero either. I ain't giving up Tyler Hero. We not giving away Bam. We not giving up Bam. You ain't giving up Tyler Hero either. Pat ain't giving up Tyler Hero, bro. Damn. No? Remember, he went, hold up, three years, hold up, was it three years ago, Joe? He had an opportunity to get James Harden, and he wouldn't include Tyler Hero in the package. You think he going to give up Tyler Hero after he just watched him? He averaged 23.

He probably going to win sixth man of the year. He just dropped 38 in a playoff game, and you think he's going to give that up? And Tyler Hero can't be no more than what, 23, 24, Joe? Yeah, probably about 24. We all talk about one of the greatest scorers of all time, we talk about, right?

We talk about that KD, we talk about that Kevin Durant. Yeah. Right? Okay. I'm just curious. How old is KD? What are about that Kevin Durant? Yeah. Right? Okay. I'm just curious. How old is KD? What are you, 37? 36, 37, yeah. The Mavs have traded out of the 20-27, 1-2 protected, 28-29 first round picks,

and a 20-30 pick swap with San Antonio. They ain't got nothing to offer. Their own women used to say, hey, you gonna get me this? What you want me to get it with, son? Ass and mouth? What Dallas gonna offer, Joe? What can they offer?

I don't know, but I just figured he went to school in Texas. I feel like he'll go back to Texas and play. He will, but I'm not gonna give him to you. Yeah, I feel like he'll go back to Texas and play. He will. I'm not going to give him to you. Yeah, I know, but I don't know. They're going to have to figure out something.

It's going to have to be a three-team trade, four-team. It's going to be some teams get in with him or something. And listen, you know what, Joe? Obviously, you have to take.

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And the best thing they can do is sit him right here down in Miami. I'm going to talk to Pat. I'm going to tell Pat, Pat, you got to change your ways. Pat Riley is like you a little bit. He's stuck in the 80s. He's stuck in the 90s. He's doing everything the opposite way as opposed to the times we're in. And that's

hurt us. And me as a Heat fan. Don't go down there playing with Pat. Pat ain't trying to hear all that. And that's the thing, the Ocho. Think about it.

The Lakers had, excuse me, the Heat had won back-to-back championships. They're in the midst of a 27-game winning streak and Pat want to plume his feathers. He want to puff out his chest.

He going to take the cookies. K, you got to understand you have to do it in basketball. Stars have always, stars have always run the NBA. Pat needs to understand that you have to, it has to be a little bit more give and take. Joe, even when you were in there, it's more, the players are fully empowered now. Now they're trying to wrestle

some of it back and you see the trade with Luka, it had everybody on eggshells. You heard Giannis, I guess ain't nobody safe. Ain't nobody safe. You hear all the guys talking. Pat's going to have to look. Pat, everybody know what I hate is when people

try to, bro, we know you in control, Pat. But Cook is. Hey, D-Wade told the story. D-Wade said LeBron pushed back from the car table. And sat there. Matt. Hey. He didn't play no more cards.

And you know, Joe, you play cards. We from that area. If you push back from the table you start playing it take up some real serious to break up a card game yeah a car a card game yeah when you playing talk you playing booray you playing guts i don't care what you play it's but if you break the card you break the card game up oh joe it's a wrap it's something serious yeah okay and then you will try to come on there, hey, pull your rings out your pocket.

You need... Man, Bron's in later for you. Yeah. Later for you. Now look at it. Jimmy Butler did the same thing. Yeah. Hold on. All I would have needed to look at D. Wade. After everything D. Wade did, D. Wade...

Pat Riley ain't got no loyalty now. The only person he's ever had loyalty to was who? UD. Because UD turned that big deal down from Dallas, took less money, and they took care of UD. I get that. But your best player was Dwayne Wade, and you mean

to tell me he had to go to Chicago after all the backseats that he took so you could get players? I was on that team. I was on that team playing with D-Wade that last year in Miami. We all was free agents. There was a lot of us that was free agents after that year. And they was like,

man, y'all gonna come back to Miami? And of course, I would love to come back to Miami, but when we started negotiations, D-Wade was just trying to get 10 a D. Wade was just trying to get 10 a year. He was just trying to get 10 a year. And, man, they threw a fit at D. Wade. I'm like, man, that man got Wade County and everything out there.

He can't get nothing. I ain't going to need me and Colin, Pat. I said, let me just move on. I'm going to just go to Utah. I'm going to kick it with these boys over here in Utah. We're going to raise some hell over there. Hey, Joe, they gave a fit only at 10 a year? Only 10?

Yeah, man. Yeah, that man was just trying to get 10 a year, and I seen all the trouble he was having with that. I'm like, hold on. It ain't even no need of my representation calling, Pat. We just might as well keep it moving. That's a phone call. my representation calling Pat. He just might have wanted to keep it moving. You know, they're wasting time. That's a phone call to some ox.

I might need that ox to get down the road somewhere. And I race it for a minute with him. Nah, I'm good. Hey, you're tired.

Okay, hold on. I'll be there. Don't worry about it. Yeah. And that's the thing, though, Ocho, if you think about it, after everything

that D. Wade had done, all the sacrifice that he had taken, he had helped recruit Bosh, he had helped recruit LeBron, he took less money because they would say, hey, we need you to take less money, we're going to get KD, we're going to get KD. Okay, when KD don't come, and you gave Bosh that big deal, okay,

what, break brand now? Yeah. And so, that's why I don't, look, I don't feel bad when players leave because loyalty is a one-sided equation yeah they want players to be loaded and loyal and then when you don't you when you don't do what they say they's like well he's not serious about winning no i hey look at boston they win it and they got two of the high paid guys on in the NBA. Both of them making over $300 million.

And you just gave Derrick White like $120 million. You gave Holiday like $130 million. Yeah. They gave Pritchard something, too. What did they give Pritchard over there? Yeah, they gave him a Pritchard. And they're about to do something with the Prezingas. Hey, but you know when you win,

you know, everybody eat. You know what I mean? Yes. So, you know, they won that title and I'm sure they're looking to repeat. It's going to be tough to knock them boys out, man. This is probably the most interesting playoffs that we probably had in quite some time because

the one and the eighties are going to be tough, especially in the west yeah oh yeah for sure yeah and uh but the pack gotta realize pat ain't nobody coming to see you play he wants to be the central theme but you know he's a he's a central theme without making any noise he oh no he doing he doing some back leg stuff behind, under the scenes. Everybody know who running the show. Yeah.

But see, my thing is, Ocho, if you say, hey, Shannon, I'm going to give you, here's the job. I'm going to pay you X. I'm going to let you have access. I'm going to let X, Y, and Z.

Now, when you get me there, don't think you're going to change up because I'm going to buck. I'm going to hack up. I'm just going to book. I'm going to act up. I'm just going to tell you how it is. Be one way with me. When you tell me what I get, okay.

That's it. That's it. You tell me I get a room, I get a suite on the road. Don't you come here and talk about, hey, well, they ain't have no suites available. You should have booked this in advance. Just do. I'm always going to be. This should have booked this in advance. Just do. I'm always going to be this how I am, Joe. Just do what you say. I don't want you to do anything.

If we didn't agree to it, don't you? I'm cool with it. I am absolutely cool with it. But boy, you tell me something and then you're going to tell me, and do another. Don't worry about it. I ain't going to even hold you.

Right. But I just want you to know the first chance I get, I'm going to exit stage left. Yeah. I ain't finna argue with you. You know, because a lot of times

he's difficult to deal with. If you tell me something and you don't follow through, you better believe I'm difficult. I'm a difficult mofo to deal with. Yeah, absolutely. 1,000. So you're not dealing with the games, huh?

I don't. Just be, Ocho, I've always been, tell me the truth. I might not like it, but I can stomach it because I feel you're being honest with me. Honest, yes, sir. If you lie to me one time don't even worry about it and one you don't give nobody no grace not when it not when it not when it comes to business oh because now because now i can't trust you ojo right right your word needs to your word need to be what it is if i tell you i'm gonna pay pay you $10, I'm going to give you $10. Not $9.50, not $8.75.

I'm going to give you $10. But don't bring your ass here talking about we agreed to $13. No, no, look here. Is that your signature right there? Okay, we agreed to $10. That's how I am, Ochoa. I don't know how you guys are, Joe, but just be straight up with me. I'm the same way, bro.

I'm the same way. I totally understand. I totally understand. Hey, the same way, bro. I'm the same way. I totally understand. I totally understand. Hey, check this out, Joe. You're going to get a kick out of this one. What's that? The Clippers use Ben Simmons as Nikola Jokic in their scout team at practice. Huh?

You came out better using Zubats. I bet. I bet. I bet Ben probably killed in that role. Guys, it be different sometimes. You put them in practice, you make them be somebody else, man, they will actually probably play better than him at times. He can't shoot, though, Joe.

Huh? He's afraid to shoot, though. He is, man. I watched the game the other day against the Warriors, actually. And, man, that point-blank layup, man, and he he just sold himself, bro. I think we look at his height, because he's 6'9",

6'10", but man, that man is a true point guard, man. He's a true point guard. Yeah, he's a pass-first point guard. Well, he's a pass-first not-shoot-at-all point guard, which is not very good. It's not in today's game.

Not in today's game because they're getting a three-point shot into space. We have a very special guest joining us, WWE superstar. Ah, here she is, the only woman. Go ahead. Here she is, Bianca Belair. Bianca, how you doing? I'm doing good. I'm in Vegas.

I'm getting ready for WrestleMania. So I'm doing good. How are you? I'm good. So let me ask you a question. You're getting ready for WrestleMania. Tell me what you're going through. So what's the steps now?

Okay, it's a couple of days away from WrestleMania. Are you doing anything different? Are you eating anything different? Are you eating anything different? You're making sure you get your rest. What are you going through? I'm locked in. It's WrestleMania. So WrestleMania is our Super Bowl. So yeah, I'm dieting. Listen, my body is full of water,

grilled chicken, broccoli. I'm over here working out. I'm big and strong right now. I'm bigger than yours, Ocho. Put your, like, working out. I'm big and strong right now. Dang, Ocho, y'all are bigger than yours, Ocho. Put your arms down, Ocho. And you know, I, I, I, hey, B, can I, can I call you B.B.? I got to get your nickname. Yeah, that's good.

It's good. Okay. Now, I understand when it comes to wrestling now, I, I'm, I'm known historically for my bad diet and still being able to play at a high level, eating McDonald's only. Is it, is your diet strict? Are you vegetarian, vegan? I don't know some of these other names. Do you have cheat meals as well?

No, I have cheat meals. So I'm somebody who, I don't like to, I'm moderation, right? Like I don't like to like put anything out. If I want it, I have it in moderation. But when it's WrestleMania,

I lock in. I pretty much, I try But when it's WrestleMania, I lock in. I pretty much, I try to have cheat meals. So I'm ready for Sunday. I'm on night two WrestleMania. And after Sunday, after I defeat Io and Rhea and I take that title, I'm a PMA Dallas probably the next day. So tell me about the triple, so Bianca,

tell us about the triple threat match. How does that go? Yeah, so I have a title match. I'm in a Triple Threat match. I'm going against Rhea Ripley. And right now, our WWE Women's Champion is Io Scott. So it's a Triple Threat. And whoever gets the first pin wins. So at this point, I won Elimination Chamber.

I'm supposed to be going to WrestleMania. I'm supposed to be facing Rhea, Io Scott. And it's just been a bunch of shenanigans. Like, my path to WrestleMania has been crazy. I ended up being a special guest referee. And so now it's a triple threat. So that's why I'm going up against WrestleMania. Oh, okay.

Now, hold on. What happened? You, Jade, and Naomi, y'all were cool. I know. Jade, my girl, hold on now. Hey, if this will be, but I don't know. I might have to come down there, Bianca, something now. What's really going on?

It's crazy right now. WrestleMania season, it gets crazy. And it breaks my heart. Yeah. You know, so much has happened in a year. Last WrestleMania, you had the big three. You had me, Jade, Naomi. We were having a tag match.

Jade and I, we were in a tag team together. We did amazing things. We put the tag team division on the map. And then it's just a lot happened. You know, Jade got taken out and Naomi stepped in so that I wouldn't have to relinquish that title. Because I felt like we put so much hard work into it. And so the whole time we're trying to figure out who took Jade out. And come to find out, it was Naomi.

What? Hey. It was Naomi. Trifling good for nothing. Trust me, I was just as confused as everybody else. Jade came back. I thought she was coming back. Listen, I done been loud and wrong the whole time.

I've been attacking other girls, thinking they the ones that did it, making enemies. Jade came back. I'm thinking she's coming for Liv. She started beating up Naomi. I'm like, what is going on? At this point, I feel like I'm now stuck in the middle.

Jade, I don't think she trusts me right now. And I'm like, I'm confused. So right now, I feel like we're trying to get through WrestleMania. Jade has a match with Naomi, which breaks my heart. I have a triple threat match. And I think we're just trying to get through WrestleMania. Then, you know, maybe we'll revisit that and try to figure all that out. It's crazy.

Hey, you know what? Speaking of WrestleMania, listen, you've created some historic moments at WrestleMania, obviously. And looking back, if you're able to look back, what's your favorite WrestleMania memory moment so far in your career? I mean, I definitely have to go with main event in WrestleMania with Sasha Banks. We made history. We were the first two black women to main event WrestleMania. It was coming right off of the pandemic. So it was a crazy time in the world.

But I was a rookie my very first year. I found myself in the main event of WrestleMania. I won the SmackDown title. We won an ESPY off of that match. So we got recognized in the world of sports, which I'm all about because I've been an athlete my whole life. And ever since that moment, it's just changed the whole trajectory of my career. And it's been uphill since then. But that's the memory that's always going to stick with me because it was more than just about having a wrestling match.

You know, like it was about inspiring generations to come and be in representation. So that's definitely like the moment that sticks with me. Right. Hey, Bianca, I want to ask a question. This is Joe. What's your regimen as far as working out? I see you cut up over there. How do you

stay toned? What you doing? Yoga? Pilates? What's the secret? Cut up like a bag of dough. Listen, listen, I don't do yoga and Pilates because I can't sit still. I'm a girl who, I lift

very heavy weight. I do a lot of circuit training, but I lift very heavy weight. I do a girl who I lift very heavy weight I do a lot of circuit training but I lift very heavy weight I do a lot of circuit training like CrossFit type of training but I can't sit still I can't get with the yoga and Pilates CrossFit it's not a lot of wrist in there it's just like constant moving huh

yeah to me it's like the best thing to do that kind of simulates wrestling because it's full body movements and it's just like circuit training. Yeah. So you're more of a HIIT type of workout. You like high intensity and you like to keep it going. Yes. So I'm going to do this for an hour.

I know I'm going to burn maximum calories. I'm getting full body because, look, everybody ain't got time. I'm going to hit chest and trice. I'm going to hit back and thighs. I'm going to hit hamstrings today. I'm going gonna hit quads tomorrow i'm gonna do that you know i'm trying to get into eight i got a a small amount of time right i'm gonna get in the gym i'm gonna kill it all i'm hitting back shoulders abs hamstrings glute wads a full body workout i mean we travel a lot so like we we always have to try to find whatever gym. It might be a hotel gym, whatever gym is on the corner that day.

So, we have to try to, like, adjust to what we're doing. So, I'm always trying to get the best workout in. I'm always a HIIT girl. I'm not doing cardio. This is a HIIT. And I love the Peloton. Like, I stay on the Peloton. That's the only way I can do cardio on a machine.

Yeah. But when you, let me ask you this. When you work out, do you listen to music or do you just... I do. I do. I do. But my playlist is all over the place. I be having Meg and Cardi and then next thing you know it's Kirk Franklin. I listen to a lot of gospel music when I work out

because I be going through it. I'm like Lord just Jesus take the wheel help me get through this because when people be asking me can I come work out with you and I be like

I don't think you want to do that because I be I be getting it in. What what what different what different sports

did you play growing up um so i started out with it with track and field and gymnastics so those were those are like my my two bases which i feel like you can see the foundation yeah that's my foundation track and field and gymnastics and um i did those sports majority of my life i played basketball as as well. You could hold? But, I'm sorry. You could hold? I mean, I was good on defense. I got the rebounds.

Listen, I say that to ask, like, what sports you played growing up? And I just want to know at what point was a transition for you where you realized,

you know, a wrestler is my calling and not the other sports that I play as a youngster? Yeah, that didn't happen until I was an adult. I was 27. So I went to college and ran track. I went to University of South Carolina, Texas A&M and University of Tennessee. I ran track. And after college, I was like, I've been an athlete my whole life.

I have to do something. So that's when I found CrossFit. And I realized, like, my whole life I've been grinding and trying to get a scholarship and working so hard. I was forgetting to have fun when I was playing sports. So CrossFit, I was like, okay, I'm having fun. I'm going to make it some of my own outfits. I was going out there in tutus. I was turning flips and then doing the power clean and press and grabbing a microphone and talking to the audience. And Mark Henry, who's a WWE Hall

of Famer, he saw a video of me. He's like, you're basically a wrestler. You're basically wearing a wrestling gear. You're talking to the audience. And I didn't really watch wrestling growing up. My brother watched it. So I would watch it here and there with him. So I was just somebody who didn't know much about the business. So he got me a tryout. And I did two tryouts, got hired, had no idea what I was doing. And then I completely fell in love with it. So I love meeting people who always say like, I don't watch wrestling. That's not for me.

Or I haven't watched it since back in the day. And I'm like, listen, that used to be me. Just come to a show, just watch it. You're going to fall in love. So much has changed. And so I feel like it's my soulmate. Like I think of it as like my husband. Like once wrestling came into my life, I'm like, where have you been this whole time?

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, you know, Jay played college basketball also. So one on one, who won it? Listen, we did Hot Ones and we had had to play basketball, and she whooped me. She whooped me. I call myself the EST, but she whooped me in basketball. No, she's huge.

She's really athletic. I've seen her work out a couple times. She used to train with the trainer that trained me when I retired. No, she's a—y'all work out? Have y'all worked out together? We haven't. Every time we went on—we would go on the road. We would try to y'all work out, have y'all worked out together? We haven't. Every time we went on, we would go on the road, we would try to get together and work out.

Well, actually, one time we did work out, but we actually read our mouths more than we worked out. So that didn't go well. Here's the thing. Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton got a little personal with their comments. Did you think they crossed the line? You said, oh, don't worry about it. When I get y'all ass in that ring, we'll settle this.

Listen, in wrestling, you never know what's going to happen. That's what's really cool about wrestling. That's what makes it entertaining. You never know when lines are being blurred or when they're not being blurred. And I think that with what happened in the ring, it caused a lot of conversation online and it brought more eyes to what's about to happen. And all I can say is I feel like a lot more people are going to be tuned in to what's going to be happening at WrestleMania.

And whatever beef they got inside and outside the ring, they're going to settle that at WrestleMania. And we are going to be locked in watching. You know what I like? I like that. You got something, Joe? I'm going to be tuned in. I want to see what they're talking about. See what they got? I like that. You got something, Joe? I'm going to be tuned in. I want to see what they're talking about. See what they got going on.

Exactly. I got one more question. Go ahead. I got one more. If you could have a dream match with any WWE legend, past or present, who would you choose? I will have to go with, oh, it's hard to pick one. Trish Stratus. You know, Trish, she just came in and had a couple of matches.

She still can throw down in that ring. She gets down. But for me, I think it would be Beth Phoenix. Just because she was like one of the first ones that I watched. And I saw her pick up two girls on her shoulders. And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, I two girls on her shoulders. And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, I want to do that. I want to do that.

Beth Phoenix and Jazz. Those would be my top two. Okay. I like it. I like it. We saw you recently return to your high school to donate hurdles. You mentioned that you played it. You ran track at the University of South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M.

Curtis Fry, the head coach at texas at uh south carolina i think is mckinnon now because he used to be at lsu now he's at texas a&m correct oh i'm not sure when i was there was coach anderson in texas a&m okay yeah uh so what what was your fondest memory of high school i mean because obviously you were very athletic. You had to be one of the most popular girls at that school. I was, you know what? I was popular, but not because I had a lot of friends. I was actually very quiet and reserved into myself in high school.

I had like a very select group of friends. Like my best friend to this day was my best friend when I was like eight years old old even through high school that's awesome but it's i was so locked in with track like everybody else was at parties i was on the track running i was waking up in the morning doing i would do a thousand abs every morning and like 300 push-ups every morning and i was I was focused in high school. But I think my best it's crazy. My best memories were on the track with the track team. Like, yeah, we we we were like my group of friends. That was like the first lesson of like women empowerment for me because we really stuck together. We really pushed each other.

And we trained hard. We're still friends to this day. And then I think my high school, I think football games. My high school, the band mimicked the HBCU type of band. Oh, yeah. And I was a

cheerleader. And I played basketball. And so my cheerleading team, we were like the Clovers. So we were more of a step team. And I would play basketball with the girls. And then after the game, I would go in the locker room and switch over from my basketball uniform into my cheerleading uniform. And I would go out and then cheer for the boys and flip down the court. Damn!

Yeah. So those were like my fondest memories. into my cheerleading uniform, and I would go out and then cheer for the boys and flip down the court. Damn! Yeah. So those are like my fondest memories. It all revolved around sports and stuff. I can honestly say in all my life, I've been, look, I was in 4-H. I was raised on a farm. I've been to the county fair. I ain't never heard no whiz like that.

I'm a hooper for the women. it and then i'm gonna go change out i'm gonna get my chili i'm on top of the pyramid go god damn i was on the bottom of the pyramid i was the base yeah hey hearing the story hearing your stories about track it resonates with me so well because obviously my daughter runs track right now for University of Kentucky and she's a sophomore and her friend, her whole core group, her nucleus is actually those that run track with her because there's nobody really outside of that. And that's really dope. Yeah, man. I always feel like women in sports, we learn our best lessons. Whether you go and become an Olympian or a professional athlete or not, we learn our best lessons. Whether you go and become an Olympian or

a professional athlete or not, you learn so many lessons when it comes to sports and you get so many friends that become lifelong friends. So I'm happy she's having a great experience. But you don't need to try. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. What about your athletic ability?

Which parent does it come from? It comes from your mom or your dad? From both. From both. My mama said she was fast. She's running a track? She said, well, no. You know, neither one of them

actually played sports in high school, but they both said that they were both athletic. We ain't got no foot. No. I just take their word for it you know I have to I have to believe it because I got it from somewhere

I think I got it from both of them Bianca there's nothing easy about track practice because it's you you have to do the work and you're only gonna get in

what you you're only gonna get out what you put in because that's a really lonely sport yeah it's a really individual sport because can't nobody help you i always say track is we were just talking about this um but my parents over the weekend track is one of the hardest sports out there and we were saying how you train so hard and like say for instance say

you run the hundred and you you you train for for 10 seconds 11 seconds that's it and it's not you don't get you don't get immediate immediate gratification for instance for like like basketball even if you lose the game every you you still score points you score buckets so you get that immediate gratification football you might score a touchdown track is that gun goes off you cross the finish line that's it and a lot of times you hardly if you're if you're like the top top top you you win a lot right but if you're not you hardly ever really win in track that's crazy to think about you trained all these years you train all these days you hardly ever really win you're

just you're you're you're going against yourself you're you're going against your own time and that's why like if you a track athlete when they have a track meet and you ask them like oh did you win you're like it doesn't matter if i won you should ask like did you beat your pr because it's always you against yourself yeah and it's very, very hard sport physically and mentally. For the people that didn't watch First Take, we had you on First Take, Stephen A and I and Molly, and you were talking to tell us about the outfits

that you wear. You make all of your own costumes. Everything that you see her wear in the ring, guys, she designed it. Yeah, I make everything. All of my gear, I, she designed it. Yeah, I make everything. All of my gear, I make it. Most of it, I make it from scratch. Some of it, if I run out of time, I'll customize it.

But for the most part, I make it. And I've never taken a sewing class a day in my life. I've learned everything through YouTube. YouTube video? YouTube. YouTube? Let me get on YouTube right now. I've been finding something I can do from YouTube

you never learn how to sew but you can do things from watching YouTube yeah I went on YouTube oh I took home ec so I do know how to sew a little but I made a shirt see it's just in trial and error it takes dedication

and time but I make everything in school because like when I watched my the video game, the gear that I'm wearing, I made that. My action figures, I made that. But it's rough because I don't have a lot of time. So a lot of time I'm sewing in the airport. I'm sewing in my hotel room. It's crazy. But I keep pushing myself, and i'm excited about my wrestlemania

get my wrestlemania gear this year would you like to would you like to do movies would you i mean i can see you as an action yeah yeah yeah i did i was in bel-air the last season um and that was really really cool that was my first experience of being in an actual show. But I would love it. I mean, technically what we do in wrestling with storylines, it's acting. And I look at people like Rock, John Cena, Batista. They've all really set that blueprint. And now with us going with Netflix, I feel like it's just going to open the door more and more. I'm excited for the future. I would love

to be in movies. Can we expect another season of Love in WWE? I mean, I hope so. I'm waiting to hear back. It's funny, though, because I was somebody who was always like, I would never do reality TV. It's not for me.

It's mm-mm. And then I learned to never say never. So, you know, the opportunity presented itself. We were like, okay, let's just, let's not try to be perfect. Let's just be real. Let's just be us and see where it goes. And we really wanted

to open, like, pull that curtain back and show people what it's like to be like a WWE superstar and be a spouse at the same time and balance that lifestyle. So I think we, like, we spoon-fed the first season. So it would be really cool to do a second season and show more of our life outside of wrestling. Yeah.

For those that don't know, Bianca's husband is a WWE participant also. So how did you guys meet? We met in WWE. So when I say WWE, like completely changed my life. It completely changed my life. It gave me a hope. You're not supposed to mess with somebody at work, Bianca.

So funny story. Funny story. Yes, yes. That was the rule. And even Mark Henry literally, oh gosh, Mark Henry, the one who got me into WWE. So when I first got into WWE, I saw him and he got injured really bad. And he went away for a couple of months. I was like, oh oh that's a beautiful

man keep him from me and they did it so a couple of months later he came back and i was like oh okay so this is what we're doing and uh we just like immediately clicked and we just like never left each other's side and then mark henry came to the to the performance center which is where we train when we first get in WWE he pulls me aside he's like talking to me about like what do you want to do and you know who do you want to be in the ring he's like it you know whatever you do don't date anybody in the business and I'm just like oh too late and I was like, okay. And I'm like, oh, no, this is, what do I do now? Yeah. So when he found out we were dating and, you know, we were getting married, I think once he found out we were getting married, he was like.

It's okay. Okay, cool. But, yeah, we just broke all the rules. Well, congratulations. WrestleMania 41 is this Friday and Saturday. Check it out on Peacock at 7 p.m. Eastern on Peacock. WrestleMania 41, Friday and Saturday, 7 p.m. Eastern on Peacock. Anything else you want?

You promoting anything? You got any supplements? Anything that you want to promote while you're here? I'm just here to promote WrestleMania right now. I'm going to be on night two, but WWE, we're taking over Vegas. It's a whole week long of events. We have WWE World with autograph signings and meet and greets. And we have SmackDown on Friday, Hall of Fame Friday night,

WrestleMania night one, WrestleMania night two. We have Raw Monday, NXT Tuesday. My match is night two. I'm having a match Triple Threat versus EO Sky, Rhea Ripley. I'm going after WWE Women's World title, and I'm walking out of WrestleMania as champion, because you

can't spell WrestleMania without EST. I'm going undefeated at WrestleMania. I like it. Let's go. Good luck. Thank you for joining us, Bianca. I like it. Let's go. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you for joining us, Bianca. Best of luck.

Continued success. Congratulations on everything that you've accomplished. Much more to be accomplished. Thank you for joining us. Good luck at WrestleMania. Bring the title home. And when you get that title, come back and tell us how you did it.

I got you. Thank you for having me. You're very, very welcome. Miss Bianca Belair. Man welcome man that was she's unbelievable we had um we had on a couple of about a month ago she was on first take and so uh she's just her personality ocho and joe yeah she's just i mean you can see she's so bubbly you can see why people gravitate towards her. Her personality is infectious. You can tell she's very passionate about what she does. That's why she's good at it. You heard what she says?

I did 1,000 sit-ups every morning. I made sure I did 300 push-ups. I did this. I did that. You see, a person that's motivated, they're going to be motivated in all things. Yes, sir. You got to have it. And those are the people that you want to surround yourself with. Those are the people that you want to be in in all things. Yes, sir. You got to have it. And those are the people that you want to surround yourself with.

Those are the people that you want to be in business with. You want on your team. You want very self-motivated people. I don't need to motivate you with money. Right. Because guess what? When you get enough of it,

then what's the stimulus? I don't want to motivate you by fear. I'm going to fire you or I'm going to do it. At some point in time, they become idle threats. Self-motivation is really sustainable. And that's what I tell kids all the time, bro. Young ladies, guys, find something that you're passionate about.

That's all you got to do. Pour into it. Yes, sir. That girl cut up like some onions, boys. Ain't she? Man. Man, Joe. Hey, Joe, she mad, Joe.

We can't do too much. No, no, no, no. Look, I'm happy. Okay? I'm just saying. And I know you got people talking. You're right. We will keep that. Hold on.

I can look at the menu now. I ain't trying to order. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to look. I'm just looking. Hey, just because you don't order don't mean you can't read the menu. Yeah, I'm just looking at the menu now. I ain't trying to order dessert. I'm going to look. I'm just looking. Hey, just because you don't order don't mean you can't read the menu. I'm just looking at the menu.

I ain't going to order no. Once I order, you better come take this menu. I might order again. Come take it. Don't break the dessert menu either. Yeah. She's great. I mean, I grew up a wrestler. I mean, I'm from Georgia, so Georgia Championship Wrestling is where it all started.

It started in the South. Wrestling used to be very regional. You had the South, you had the Mid-Atlantic, you had the Midwest, and it combined. But my grandfather used to take me and my brother to Baxley. We'd go to Savannah. We'd go to Blackshear. We'd go to all those littleBidelia, and we saw all of them. I'm talking about the

old school wrestlers, like Abdullah the Butcher, Art Baker, Bo Brazil, Andre the Giant, Ric Flair, Greg Valentine, Ricky. I'm talking about you named the old gold guard? Yeah. We saw him. Trush the Blackwell. Man, I was in heaven.

Man, I was in heaven seeing that. I was a helper to you, that. My mama used to wake me up every morning and just watch them wrestling and hollering. You know, Junkyard Dog was a favorite wrestler,

bro. Hey, Junkyard Dog. Junkyard Dog. She used to go crazy about him, man. Yeah,

man. Those were the days, man. Those were the days, man. Watching Dusty Rose. Yeah. Dusty Rose. Dusty Rose.

Bernard. Hey, remember Jimmy Super Popsicle? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man, look here. Black Jack Mulligan. All of them. Hey, Tully Blanchard. Hey, remember Hacksaw Jim Duggan? Hacksaw Jim Duggan, yes.

Baron Brombrowski. Yeah. Nikita Koloff, Ivan Koloff, the Russian Bear. Mr. Wrestling No. 1 and 2. Super D 1 and 2. yes Baron Brown Rasky yeah Nikita Koloff Ivan Koloff the Russian Bear Mr. Wrestling number one and two

Super D one and two the Road Warrior that was my favorite the Road Warrior when they come out with that

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uh uh uh uh man hey hold up though I'm saying back then did y'all

think it was real yeah yeah yeah absolutely absolutely man they get that man get crocked I'm saying back then, did y'all think it was real? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I get all bad. I get crocked. Yeah.

Boy, it was the day, boy. Classic. And as soon as it go off, me and my brother out in the yard trying to move on each other. Boy, that y'all hurt y'all damn feel. Roll back. Oh, yeah. The volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.

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