Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Messi BREAKS World Cup GOALS Record + Kylian Mbappe DOMINATES vs Iraq + Timberwolves TRADE Julius Randle + Trae Young SIGNS 4-year $212M CONTRACT with Wizards + Giannis EXPECTS to be TRADED by NBA Draft

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lionel Messi breaking the World Cup Goals Record, Mbappe continues to dominate the World Cup, Timberwolves trade Julius Randle, Trae Young resigns with Wizards and Giannis expects to be traded.  Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction05:15 Messi breaks record for most World Cup goals18:10 - Kylian Mbappe scores 2 goals vs Iraq24:38 - Minnesota trades Julius Randle in 3 team deal30:20 - Trae Young intends to sign a 4 yr $212m deal with Wizards36:35 - Giannis expects to be traded before the NBA draft tomorrow (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Linole messy. Breaks the record for most World Cup goals. scoring after these scores two versus Austria. Miss penalty kick early in the game, misd penalty kick in the World Cup history. He has the most missed penalties in World Cup history. Yes. Peter Schmichael, I think that's how you say his name.

Yeah. Says that Messi's goal shouldn't have stood due to a foot file in the buildup. Messy goal should have been a disallow. McAllister and kick Schlegger from behind, clearing the obvious mistake from the referee. Ocho, then Messi and co. Get away with another after the match, after not being Red Cardi in his previous match.

I mean, we're still talking about that. Obviously not. Obviously not. You know, you're going to collide with people. Sometimes if it's not, you know, purposely done, you know, sometimes the rest will overlook it. You know, Messi is not a repeat offender and having files and, you know, clawing somebody.

Obviously it was an accident if you watch the game. Other than that, man. Like, it's hard for me to continue to try to defend what I thought was the greatest player of all time in Grishano with the way Messi is playing. What Messi's done is, I already knew his greatness. I understood his greatness. And with an appreciation that I have for the beautiful game in general, I understand he was one of the best to probably ever do it. And just what he's doing at his sixth World Cup man at 39 years old or 38 years old, excuse me. And just, it's, it's unbelievable.

Like you're not supposed to be able When you're 39 years old When you're playing for your country You're supposed to be coming off the bench Not dictating games You know And just just Not the best player in the World Cup

Basically And that's what he is I'm almost at a loss of words Trying to describe What he's been able to do Forget just his whole career But what he's doing at 38 At the World Cup right now man

It's just It's unreal I think the thing is Ocho is that in the biggest moments He normally shows up And he normally shows up In big ways We saw him last year

in the World Cup, and that was one of the great final matches between them and France. And then to start, I mean, here he is in 26, and he gets three goals to start, and he gets another two goals. He's got five. Hell, he gets another one to two goals, oh, Joe. He's going to win the Golden Boot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's going to win it again. Well, hold on. He might because Embapy is right on his head, huh? And Bobby's only two gold. And Bobby had two again today. So in Bobby, every time Messi do something, and Bobby come right back and do the, do the same thing. And Erling,

Erling Holland is not too far behind those. Yes. Behind those two. Yeah. He's just, he's just phenomenal. I mean, he said to,

look, he has 17, broke 17, then he got 18, the most goals in World Cup history. Obviously, I think I'mape has 14. Yeah.

So he's going to need to put that thing on that there because Mbapap is coming. I don't know how long he's going to have it. He looked like he might have it for, at least Ocho, for this World Cup, considering. Yeah.

Considering, And Bapa's age and how many more World Cups he's going to be a part of? He got, he got to leave three more. He got to leave three more. You got to think this is only his third World Cup, if I'm not mistaken. And he's at 14. It took Messi, it took Messi 6th World Cup to get to the number he's at now. So in Bobby's probably going to got him going to crush that.

And like you said, he's right on his heels right now. So in Bobby, if he's, if he just kidding. I mean, it's like you're watching this and you're like, you're in awe of just how great messy is. And then you watching them, I feel like, well, bro, y'all know I'm not Feduchina, right? And Holland is like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's get carried away. These other two guys are great. But I'm great in my own right.

It's just amazing. I mean, to sit here and I'm not the biggest soccer aficionado, but I know greatness when I see it. Yes, sir. No matter no sport, no matter the activity, you know greatness when you watch it. Yeah. You watch people shoot billions and you watch them play horseshoes or you watch them bowl. You watch them throw darts. You watch them do cornhole.

No matter the sport, you know what greatness is. If you don't know anything about the game, you might not know a singer, but let somebody go out there and start singing. That person can sing. Yeah, you know the difference. And the funny thing, you can actually tell exactly how good certain individuals are,

even if you don't watch soccer, if you watch Argentina play, if you watch Norway play, or if you watch France play, you can tell Mbapé is a difference maker. You can just tell once he gets the ball at his feet, he changed the pace, what he's able to do,

Holland is the same way. Very efficient when it's coming to come to score and goals. I always say, I'm at this point now. Messi doesn't play for Argentina. Argentina plays for Messi. From now, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's it. And I need, I need, I'm not sure in Portugal plays, but I need Christano to come to the party. I need his teammates to actually to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to play as, as one.

Now, I don't want anybody playing. So you said, so you said messy bigger than the country now, huh? man, listen, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know what else to say. You're God. I don't know what else to say. Like what he's doing is ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

And I know him and Cristano play two completely different positions. Yes. He said a dependent position on his midfield. Messi can kind of control the games as a point guard in a sense. Right. You know, so I mean, but, oh, man, dude, dude, dude, dude is phenomenal, man. I mean, I think the thing is, Ocho, and I don't really know, look, I don't really know a whole lot of great other arching times.

I know Juan Del Potros, the great tennis player, who had to retire early because he had wrist injuries. He beat, with it 2009, I think he beat Federer at the U.S. Open. And a five-setter was a great match, Delpo. But I don't know a whole lot of great, oh, Manu, but for the most part, but soccer is the sport. And I remember Deepo, he got his welcome when he went back and he won the U.S. Open.

and I'm sure, Manu, similar, especially when they won the FIFA, when they won the World Cup, and then they ended up winning the gold medal in 2004. So that was a hero's welcome. But what this man doing, like I said, I don't know, like I said, we don't have, we didn't have internet

and we didn't have the coverage that we have now. Right. But Maradona. Maradona. Maradona, yeah, Pele. Mm-hmm. Hey, a, um, it's,

and the fact that Messi makes it so easy and I have a great understanding of the game on how difficult the game is and he just gliding past people shooting with efficient, shooting with his left, shooting with his right. He's always three steps ahead of everybody else. His IQ, you know,

and understanding for where everybody's going to be and how to manipulate the finish to get, oh man, his body feints. It's like, dude, you're 38. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? You're making it hard for me to argue with people on Twitter and Instagrams

about why I feel Christiano's my goal. I mean, it's like I'm running out of things to argue about. And the plus to Ocho is that he's been great for so long. Yes. It's almost like, yeah, I mean, it's hard to say, but the 24-year-old Messi, he looks very similar to the 38-year-old Messi. He's still doing it at an elite level.

These guys are getting faster. They're getting stronger. And he's like, okay, and? I'm still, I still can do it at an elite level. And we're like, retire, retire, why? And do what? This gift I have. And that's what, you know, we talk about it.

And a lot of times like, well, he should retire. It's hard to tell somebody when they're still playing at an elite level to just walk away from the game. And do what? When you've trained a lifetime for this moment, you don't want it to end. I don't know if, Chad, I don't. don't know whatever your greatest moment is, whether you've been in love and y'all went on a honeymoon or the first time, you know, you and your lady or your guy got together or where you went somewhere with your family, you didn't want that moment to end. This man has had 20 years

of damn moments. Not one, 20 years. Big ones. At this point, Unki, just playing for fun. He's won everything that's possible. He is. Eight Belonde yours. I mean, who knows how many golden boots. He's got a World Cup already. So he basically, I just, he played playing for a family. I'm doing anything extra is just a cherry on top. No, he just adds to his cake, Ocho. I mean, how many layers?

The cake already, you're like a wedding cake, Ocho, they got an eighth year wearing cake. How tall you want this damn cake? Because ain't nobody going to be able to reach up there and cut the top of it. We got to start at the damn bottom. Yeah, man, he's special. Man, he's special.

Like, I've never denied him being special. I never denied him being one of the greatest saw of all time, but I just, as great as he is, I still prefer Christano. That's okay. I know people will say anyone that knows ball knows that Messi is the greatest. What's that what you prefer? I just prefer based on style of play.

I understand what Messi's doing. It's phenomenal. He's magic with the ball at his feet. But for me, I like the, it's hard to even put it in the words because people are going to argue the fact. Look at the resume. Look at the accolades. It's just my preference.

I mean, can you imagine he's Jordan in his country? Can you imagine what he's like in his country? He can't go anywhere just like Michael Joe. I mean, some people he, like he, Ronaldo, they're like probably 10 sports guys. They can't go maybe a little more. They can't go anywhere in the world. They're that recognizable. Yeah.

Messy, Ronaldo, Jordan. Some guys can't go anywhere. Yeah. they'll never they'll never know what it's like to be normal be not famous yeah because they've been famous longer than they've not been famous you saw okay i'm gonna take the first 10 you take the first 18 years of jordan's life once he hit that shot everybody knew who mike jordan was okay rinaldo messy once they burst on the international stage so for the last 25 20 years they've been famous yeah they've been famous they've been famous

because LeBron James, once he appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated, it was over. It was over. He's never, Michael Jackson, once he was at seven, eight years old, he was never going to be a have a normal life. Yeah. He was never going to be a kid.

Yeah. Messy is never going to be able to go. His kids are, his kids will never know what it's like not to be in the spot. It's be able to go to the park and kick the ball around with the dad, Ocho. Like a lot of kids get an opportunity to play baseball with their father or shoot. Mm-hmm.

You know, you know, at your house? Yeah, you ain't going to no park. Yeah, you know, you know, so funny, there's a clip of Messi and his wife going to Carbone. Because you got to think, now, when you're in Miami, the people that live here in Miami, they think they're celebrities themselves. They just be regular people. So obviously, I've seen Messi go to Carbone with his wife. And I've seen him, he was in Publix.

He was in Publix with his wife all by himself. And obviously, you know, he, he, he, he, he, he's so short, you look past him unless you are a soccer fan. Right. You look right past him. He's about, what, five, six, maybe five, seven, if that. So if you don't know, you just see a short guy, just short guy walking.

He always wears his hat real low, so you can't tell who it is. Right. And he's just, man, dude, man. Listen, tomorrow, I don't know if the Portuguese players are going to this, but I need you guys, especially that midfuel, Bruno, Patina, I need you to get Ronaldo the ball. Just getting the ball. Don't play hero ball, please.

Because I need something to argue. I can't even debate. I can't even argue with people on Twitter because Messi having an all world tournament so far. You know what it is, Ocho? I think the thing is that when great players and don't pretend like they don't, it's like, man, he's probably telling, bro,

y'all see what this man doing? Y'all get this man to ball. Great way, great wide receivers. Drive him crazy. You're going against another wide receiver and that man cutting y'all look. Man, y'all let this man show me up in my damn house. What are y'all doing?

Oh, man. It's difficult, man. It's difficult. I'm trying to, hey, we're going to force feet. We're going to force feet, oh, boy, the ball, because we know what's on the other side. He'll go get upset. So we're going to double him, but y'all force feet.

Man, they're running smoke screen. They're running jail break screen, don't you? They run it hit you. Everything. Nah, it sucks. This is unbelievable. Gailin Mboppe scores two goals versus Iraq, four goals and two.

games, 16 World Cup goals in 16 career games. Crazy. That's crazy. Erland Holland scores two goals versus Senegal. He has four goals in two games in his first ever World Cup. Boy, it's good, Unk, man. If I was to compare somebody and use football terminology to give you a better example, Holland would be like Calvin Johnson.

Yeah, he's huge. Six, four, six, five. to say you look like he about six four. Hey, strong as hell. You catch him on a run on a counter fast, hold people off. He can hold up plate. He's nice.

Nothing pretty to him. He ain't going to dribble past you and look like messy or look like embatted. He's going to be between the legs and between your legs and then take off running. Nah, he ain't doing all that. He ain't doing all that. But for what he does, he does it really, really, really,

got damn way. Is it is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, easier now, Ocho? No. And that's just how good the people you just named, they are the best at scoring. Not only in the World Cup, they're the best of scoring in the world

and even at their clubs. Right. That thing, Holland's scoring 30 goals in the season. You know, messy here. When you hear about the great, you know, the grades like Mueller and Clemsman and Pelle and all those guys, they're like, well, damn.

What were y'all doing back there? These guy right here, they're a pass, y'all. Hey, if you think about it, right? when someone asks a question, is it scoring really that easy? It's not because it's the same, the same culprits when it comes to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the end of the season. It's the same people. Inbape, Holland. Mesae.

Mesa, has a 90, hey, chat, correct me if I'm wrong. What's that season where MESC had, was it 61 goals or was it 91 in the league season? Wow. I'm, um, something stupid. stupid. Like if you were playing a video game, you couldn't score that many goals. Huh?

You wouldn't be able to score like that if you play it on the video game? No, I don't know what Messi ate that season. Chad, how many was that crazy season at Barcelona? I mean, Messi had that crazy goal season. It was something crazy. 73. No, it was 91. Yeah, I said it right.

I was right. 91 and 91? 91. 91. They only got 32. Is it 32 games in the season? And plus a, they only got 32 games in the season.

Plus a few other tournaments, no combined. Well, how, hell, hell, I mean, he's 38 now. So how was he in 91? That was, that it was in 2014, 2015 season. He scored 91 goals. Oh, okay, so it wasn't, it wasn't 91 and 91. No, no, he scored 91 goals in the season. It was 91 goals in a calendar year.

Yeah. You know how hard that is? Yeah, yeah. You got people don't even have 91 goals in their career and he'd go with 91 in one season. That's great, man. Well, I don't know what else is saying. FIFA do,

people do getting, look, I think everybody's extremely happy because you're big time player, the people that they know. I don't know, a whole lot of people probably like myself, don't know a whole lot about soccer. We know names.

And when the name show up and show out, that's what, hey, Oh, that's what you want. Yeah. It's like it's a quarterback driven league. I want the quarterbacks to do well. Well, I want my big guns.

I want Messi. I want Mbapet. I want all those guys. I want them to play well. And they've absolutely hit it out the park. Yeah. They have. I just need my guy to hit it out the park tomorrow.

Right. He scored 73 in one season. And then he tacked on 18 in a calendar year. So he had 91 goals in a calendar year. Right. He had 73 just in the season. season. Hey, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need,

they, listen, Portugal plays, he ain't about to get 73, so. No, no, no, no, no, hey, but Portugal play Uzbekistan tomorrow. Yeah. Uzbek, that, that should, that should be, that should be a statement game. It should, I don't want to be disrespectful to Uzbekistan. Portugal should, should, they need to make a statement because they haven't been playing well as a team, as a whole unit, not Christiano, just in general. I haven't been to let you, but see, guess what?

Guess what the Ubeka stands thinking? What? You ain't been to get no four, five goals on us. So what they're going to do? Somebody else can go, but you're not. Listen, Columbia beat him 3-1. That's okay. Hold on.

Netherlands beat them 2-1. That's okay. I need, I need, come on, come on, Portugal. We'll give Chris Henry 300. We ain't giving you 300, because you're going to act of food. See, we'll give T. We'll let T.J. get it. Not you.

No, because TJ just go hand the ball to the official, maybe spike the ball. You go act up. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I need to have a game. I need to be able to argue back and forth on Twitter. I need to. I have no rebuttals. There's really nothing I can say.

It's getting hard and harder, Ocho, for you to argue back and forth. It is. It's getting hard and harder. I mean, now I would you have some ammunition. I mean, you can win a war, but you got to have, but you got to have, you got to have the weapons to fight. I think since the tournament started, I don't have nothing. Like zero.

No, you're going out there, old school fight. You're going out there with muskets and cannon. It's drones. It's drones now, man. Everything is precision, Ocho. Hey, hey, boy, they, hey, they're killing me on Twitter, man. I don't know, Ocho.

He better do something. He better do something. Hey. I, I, I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping for a good showing in general from everybody. I want the midfield. I want Bruno to play like the best midfielder he's supposed to be. Oh, Joe, we got breaking news. Minnesota is sending Julius Randall and the number 28 picks

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Yeah. They gave, they were so, listen, Chad, do y'all realize what they did? Julius Randall is a former All-Star. Yes. They say, you know what? Here, we get y'all Julie's rammer. What y'all got?

Y'all got some pre-wrapped tape. Gatorade. You remember the Gatorade? Ocho used to pay it in the bag, used to pour in the bag and pour the water in the stir. Yeah, yeah, and make the powder and mix it up. Yeah. Hey, oh, I got a question.

Yes. He wasn't that bad. He wasn't that bad to just let him go like that. He wasn't good when they needed him to be good. And far too many times, that's what, because at the end of the day, Ocho, yes, you make a king's ransom and the regular season.

But in the postseason, they needed him to show up. They needed somebody. And guess what? McDaniels had passed him as being the second best player. That's not an option. Right. So he made it easy for him to make that decision, huh? Yes.

And that's messed up, boy. Man, they literally gave this man away. Hold, let me say it. The Timber Woods would acquire Brooklyn's number 33 pick for Randall and 28. So, hold on. They say we take number 33. We'll get y'all Julius Randall and our 28 pick.

Damn. Now watch he, he went to the Bulls, huh? No, he went to the Nets. Nick Claxton goes to the Bulls. Oh, to the Bulls. Okay. Yes.

Let me see. So we over there with the Nets? Who over there in Brooklyn? Nobody. Michael Porter, Jr. is the only one that I really, that I know of. I don't really know anybody else on the Nets.

Chad? I mean, not even fair. So he didn't went somewhere where they're not, he's not even on the contender anymore. That's what they're telling him. Remember, they thought he was the peace to a contender. Remember when the Knicks got him? Remember when the T-Wolbs got him? Yeah. He's supposed to be a missing piece to a contender. When they trade you to the Nance. And I mean, I don't mean in no disrespect, but it's like, okay, now I'm just collecting a check and playing ball. I want to compete for a ring. I want to compete for a championship, too.

Yeah, you had that opportunities. You had the opportunity. You were the Knicks, and then they moved you, they thought that, me, and the mere fact that Minnesota thought they would get better by trading Kat versus for Jew Randall. Hey, that's tough. Hey, systems matter, like you say all the time. Great players overcome system.

Kobe's going to be Kobe in any system. LeBron will be LeBron, join the great players or be great in any system. Right. The great players can overcome a system. A great player is the system. Instead of being that bull in the China shop more times than offer, he jacking up threes.

He needed to be the second best player. Night in and night out, he needed to be the second best player. And we saw, we saw right before our eyes, McDaniels, passing. We saw it. De Samu passed it looked better consistently than Julius Randall.

Yeah. Shannon came off the bench and looked better than Randall. I can't pay you that kind of money, Ocho, and have guys coming off the bench are playing better than you. I can't. Especially in those big moments, especially in those big games, especially in the guy in the playoffs.

They gave this man away. At least, at least when he was on the Knicks. They went to the playoffs and then you go to Minnesota like, okay, I got, look at it. I'm going, I'm going to join, I'm going to join Aunt Man. I'm going to join Rudy Gobert. You know, hey, we got a nice little squad. We'll continue.

You go to the next. Oh, Joe, you're not going nowhere. You can't, you can't, hey, you can't when your family asked you off camera, man, how are y'all looking? You can't even lie. You can't lie. Get your money. How many years he got still in the contract?

You got one year left or two? Oh, he picked it out of up. He got two years. Wasn't his player option. Yeah, he picking that up. Where how much is it? 35.8. What if he don't pick it up?

What happens? He becomes a free agent, and then he hopes somebody gives them a long-term deal for more than what he, for more than that one year. So you think it's the possibility that someone take a chance on him? Anything possible.

It's hard for you to, it's hard for me to read the NBA. Right. What they do. Let's talk about it. According to Shams, Trey Young's, 10 to sign a four year $212 million deal to stay with the Washington Wizards with the player option in year four. Remember, he turned down the 49 million player option for the 26, 27 season, betting on himself to secure a longer term deal.

And today, Ocho, that paid off. According to Jake Fisher, Anthony Davis and his camp have been seeking a max extension and plausible to consider him a potential trade candidate out of Washington. You asked, man, why would trade decline a $50 million deal? Okay. So I can get a four year deal for $2.12. Yeah, I just asked that yesterday to it. That's crazy. That's crazy.

And it came to fruition. Now, what about Anthony Davis? Now, how is he asking or requesting anything long term with his history and always being heard? Guess what? Because they don't make very many 16 guys that can give you 20 and 12 and three blocks a game. Shoot 50% can anchor your defense.

Right. I think they should put something in the contract, though. We'll give you a Wiggy. They'll never let you do it. Hey, we'll give you max dollars, right? And the only way you earn the max dollars that we put in the contract is that you stay healthy and play a certain amount of games each season. Player association, they're going to go for that.

Now, you see kind of the situation that they put in Zion contract, body fat, got to be a certain level, got to be under a certain weight thing like that. Now, you want this deal? You ain't got to sign it. But who's going to run the risk? Yeah, I put that in there. Somebody going to give you $150 million. And they said, well, Ocho, we need you on time.

Well, you're going to sign that deal. And then you take, you know what? Hey, I'm going to take a late for you a couple of times, but I'm going to get this money. You're not going to be so bullheaded like, man, I ain't signing that. That's a bad deal. Ain't nobody else got to sign that.

So that. And from where, from what? what they're talking about Anthony Davis, gonna probably get it and become a trade candidate. Yeah, I mean, he should, he should get it, huh? Now, he, well, he, that boy, now, I, I even, even I understand that when he's playing and we on the court. I understand how good he is on both ends of the court.

But I mean, my goodness, chat, I mean, you know, am I wrong? If I was heard all the time, who they, I heard the nickname street clothes, who they call street clothes? Huh? Yeah. You know, so I mean, listen, I'm, I'm just saying, Maybe, you know, the NBA team can protect themselves a little bit, you know,

throw a little language in there like, listen, man, if you, if you can't give us this amount of gain, you know, we're going to take, we're going to take a little, little piece of that power. All they have is an insurance policy like a lawyers of London. If somebody's a career ending injury, because that money is guaranteed, they get their money back. That's basically what they have, Ocho. Yeah.

But like you said, because of his, because they know he's, He's 20 plus points, double-digit rebounds. He shoots a high percentage. He's got a mid-range. He got post the ball. He can shoot the three. Sometimes I think he falls in love with three a little bit too much. He can anchor your defense.

Oh, he's phenomenal. He's nice. When he's played. He nice. When he plays. But trade, you know, it's going to be very interesting because now you hear more, all of a sudden Peterson has jumped back into the mix. Everybody, he has so much upside.

So much upside. side that you're willing to take the risk on some of the things that we saw in college. Right. Now with trade back, but I think the most part, most guys with the exception, with the exception of Camboozer, both guys need the ball. DeBonsa had the ball. Peterson might have the ball in his hands as much as the Bonza. Right.

Obviously, you know trade needs the ball. Mm-hmm. So it's going to be interesting to see how they do this. Washington has the number one pick, huh? Washington has the number one pick, Utah has the number two pick. And that would probably be why, based on what they were able to do in college, if the bonds always had the ball in his hands, I mean, I would think his better destination would be Utah,

where he could be on a team where he could have the ball in his hands. If Peters already showed you, I could, listen, I could play off the ball, I could play without the ball. All things being equal. everybody wants to be the first pick. Now, being the first pick doesn't land me in my ideal spot. Right.

Maybe it's a situation. Remember Chris Weber went number one overall and they ended up trading him for Penny Hardaway. Guys like, look, you can trade me wherever. I just want that attached out of the number one overall draft pick. Trade me wherever. Right. But just give me that.

Let me have that. And I think, I think AJ DeBonzo would love to be the number one overall draft pick and then they make a trade them in Washington work out something but I just think how tall is Peterson because that is a really small back court

with him and Trey Young in it how tall he is on? Six four. Six four but you know Trey six foot we're being nice and look what happened well he's going

I mean I mean now I ain't going by Wikipedia because you sit your own Wikipedia numbers. What did they measure at the NBA Combine? Okay, six, four and a half.

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But we're gonna, hey, the draft tomorrow, huh? Yeah, I see. We're gonna find out tomorrow. Who goals number one? According to Shams, Yonnas is expected to be traded before the start of the NBA draft Tuesday, with the Celtics and Heat emerging as finalists to land the Buck's superstar.

You don't say. The bucks are not expected to include a third team in the Yonis trade, according to a source, and are focused solely on negotiating with the Celtics and the heat. Sources, excuse me, told Shams that if traded the two Milwaukee, for Janice Brown would remain with the bugs. That ain't going to happen. If you're a betting man,

Yonis ends up in Miami or does he end up in Boston? Well, if you're a bed man, I didn't tell you all the past six months where he was gone. I don't know how long have been said it. You know, I ain't going to tell you who my source is. But again, everything I say, listen, I might tell a joke or two, but I ain't going to lie to you.

I said where he was going a long time ago. You know, y'all laughed it off. You all ain't believe me. but I told you he's down here looking for houses, boom, now it comes down to it. Yeah, listen, Janice, Tatum, and Jalen Brown, that ain't happening. We know that's not happening.

No. He's going to be in Miami, you know. Pat Riley got something else on this sleeve. Obviously, when Yonnas get here, he got one more movie trying to make. We'll see if that comes into fruition so we can compete in the East. We don't want to be decoration. We want to be playing, you know,

not in the plan, but being, being a seed. Clearly, Boston have the most assets. You get Tyler Hero, you get Harmon Hawkees, you get K-O-Ware, and if I'm not mistaken, if I was reading it correctly, you get three first-round picks, and you get some pick swaps. Yes, sir.

Now, on the flip side, you get Jalen Brown, you get two late-round draft picks, two late-first-round picks. I don't know the guy. Are you putting it up here? Okay. The Miami Heat would send Tyler Hero, Jaime Heikers, Kail Ware, Nicola Hobbit, Pick 13, two future first round picks.

Boston would send Jalen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez, pick 27th, and a future first round pick. Now, the question is, do you trust your scouting department? Do you trust your drafting department? Because you've got a team that can go play right now with Hero, Hawkees, Ware, Hobbit, considering what you still have there.

Jalen Brown is a number one option. He's going to sell tickets. So, but it seems to me they won't draft capital. Remember, they bought Dame Lillard out of his deal. They still owe him like a hundred-something million. Damn. So, but if you give up all that, if you're the heat, Bam and Yannis ain't winning no championship.

They got one more trick up their sleeve, huh? I'm going to see if it work. I sure hope so because this happens every time Ocho is that you give up all your assets and when the guy get there the covet is bare that's what happened

see just imagine if the warriors had to trade for Kevin Durant now you can't keep all those pieces because he's a free agent and you didn't have to give up anything anything yeah made it easy made it easy But they mad at us. You see the chat, they mad enough.

Y'all keep, it's always, it's always us. When Yonji says he could see himself playing for someone other than Milwaukee, out of his own mouth, that's what he said. I didn't say that. Joe didn't say that. You didn't say that. The media didn't say that. Yonis said he could see himself playing for someone other than the Bucks.

Yeah. I bid damn if they didn't get mad at us. the media y'all keep bringing it up y'all keep bringing it up it should have gave you it should have gave you pause for cause when he didn't sign the extension in year five he didn't mention nothing about playing somebody else and year eight he didn't mention about saying playing somewhere else and you're 10 now all of a sudden he mentions he could

the possibility of playing elsewhere yeah and he didn't sign the extension that would have kept him there they think of what they hard huh they think of what they hard nothing but they mind That's all. No, don't be mad. Ain't, oh, messy. No, y'all messy.

Y'all get mad at us. All we do is report. How do we have something report on if there's nothing? Y'all get mad every time when we, Ocho and I told you something was brewing in Philly.

Y'all got mad. How you know, you ain't in the locker room. All you doing is tabloid. Do y'all think, y'all really be thinking people nightly, I'm not, saying they don't but 98% of the time the sources the sources is the head coach the general

manager the owner the player personnel the scouting department that's the source and guess what and a sprinkling of players in there yeah shoot I've been getting cussed out all day on Twitter talk about talking about the Cleveland Browns and Deshawn Watson you know they cussing me out talking about I don't know what I'm talking about oh with Jerry Judy your source I say hey this had nothing to do with Jerry Judy you talk about oh we took a picture a few days ago and all of a sudden now I'm saying what I'm saying no for one Jerry Judy's from Miami right we grew up together I'm just a little bit older I mean I would hope people understand that but no I'm I'm using common sense and logic the money's gonna play it's nothing's nothing wrong

with Shadoor I love Shadour I've said it countless times yeah he played well he played well last year, you know, has some ups and outs. He has some growing pains. Yes. But if Deshawn watching is healthy, he's going to be the starter whether you like it or not because of the money. Yep. It's common sense if you understand the game. That's it.

That's not a source. That's me having common sense in how the game goes. So in other words, they mad at the messengers. Because when Adam Schepter say that, y'all don't say Adam Shepter being messy. When Sharm say that, y'all don't say that. Y'all don't say Sean's being messy. Right. When Wode used to break story after story after story, after story,

y'all didn't say Wold's making it up. So why Ocho and I got to be making it up? And y'all come to the conclusion, well, Jared, you took a picture. Why does it matter how we got our information? We're telling you something you didn't know. And then you turned around like, oh, we all knew that. No, you didn't.

Because you argued being the Ocho down. But y'all knew it now. But I'm just saying, why is it Wodge? Why is it Jay Glaser? Why isn't it? Shams? Why isn't all those other people that give y'all inside information that they got from sources? Why aren't they messy?

I've never heard, and I follow Shepter. I've known Shepter longer than anybody. Anybody that he has been, Shepter and I used to go to dinner. His mom and dad used to come to town. we would go to an Italian restaurant called Carmines. Ask it. He got to Denver the same time I got to Denver. I've looked up on his comments.

Not one time have y'all ever said the man was messy. I look up under Sean's comments. Never you say he messy. I look up under Joe. So I just need y'all to tell me why when we give you information from a player's standpoint and we can see things that you can't, we can understand things that you can't. Why is Ocho and Unk being messy?

Just answer me that. Go ahead, chat. Take off. They, they, they, they, they, they, nah, ain't no crash out. I'm asking y'all a simple question. Don't know no, no crash out. Answer the question.

Hey. No, they got, they got, no, I don't want to relax. I'm fine. I've been sleep all day. Why y'all, see, did you want, you know, instead of answering the question,

crash out, relax. No, tell me why Ocho and I are my, messy, Adam Schepter report the same thing. Adam Schepter said things were going on in the locker room. When Ocho and I tried to tell you, you just being messy. Y'all will never say Adam Schuster starting anything.

Y'all never say, Sean, starting anything. Nobody listened to me because I play so much. I ain't been, I'm right 98% of the time. I'm right 98% of the time anytime I say something. I don't, you know what, Ocho? I don't say anything because if I were to say stuff

y'all going to try to pinpoint who I got it from so to keep everybody safe I don't say nothing I just let it play out let it play out y'all find out in time it's like when the levy bus

man why don't you tell me it's going to flood y'all gonna find out sooner later yeah I know a lot that ain't my job I'm gonna let it play out because all you're going to do is tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. That's all you're going to do. Tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

We've been, I was on this OJ Brown since October. And I say the reason why you don't do that, I say because you'll have a game if you're not careful. And when they come to your Ocho, and you don't make no plays, they're going to let you have it. And I'll be damn the Rams game,

the playoffs, Ocho. It came full, it came full circle. Yes, sir. There's a lot of things I see. Y'all forget that a lot of these coaches, a lot of these general managers, I know them. You ain't get it from me.

Okay. Call me what you want to. But just call me correct. Say what you won't. Just say I'm correct. Why is it so hard for people to give people credit? Especially our people. Y'all get Adam Schefter.

Y'all get Adam Schefter credit like it's nothing. Paul, me and Ocho, we just be in Ocho. just a poll huddler trying to grow a channel yeah we can't get no credit right hey you know he he got he got that big that big entity behind him you know no no no no it ain't damn the entity oh joe we've been tell we look here we played the game yes sir we telling you what we see we telling you the interactions that's taking place having been a receiver having been a tight-in having dealt with the quarterback mm-hmm tell you something

all the years experience that we got between us. We got 50 years of playing football. Yeah. Organized football. But now we don't know what we're talking about. So I'm crashing. And guess what? Y'all listen to me, crash out.

I love it. All the day, all the day, y'all call it. Y'all still, y'all, I just don't, I say what day of. Me and Ocho can say something. Yeah, this show did, such and such a such. Hold on me, Ocho said that. I say what's it. Nah, we don't get it.

You ain't got it yet. Nope, no, now you get it. Now you, but damn. Ocho, now they get it. Now, the Boston Celtic situation. A rare bull. Please. Ocho, they got mad at us.

The Boston Celtic situation with J.L. With J.B. and J.T. Y'all trying to break them up. Y'all trying to break them up. you can't break up something that doesn't want to be broken up. Yeah. Talk to the Boston Celtics.

J.B. sees himself as a number one. Yeah. The Celtics sees him Jason Tatum as the number one. He was never going to be seen in the eyes that we see him now, as long as Jason Tatum was there. What happened? Jason Tatum unfortunately got injured.

Jalen Brown got an opportunity to show you he was a number one. Because even when Jay when Jason or when J. Excuse me. When J.B. One Eastern Conference finals MVP, the Larry Bird Award, when he won finals MVP, what did everybody say? That's because everybody geared their defense to stop Jason Tatum. You still wouldn't get a man to credit.

Even though he had the hardware on his mantle, you tried to make a reason or an excuse why he got it. Okay. So now, Jason Tatum is injured. He averages a career high. He gets his team to the number two seed. Hey, you know it's funny? That's one of those situations is there's really nothing that Jalen Brown could have done

to change not only the eyes of the people, but the people in the organization that felt Justice Nadeon was the number one. That is the thing, Ocho, is to how they view them in the organization. Yeah, yeah. You can't change. You can't change their mind in the organization, even based on what you did when he was hurt. They still feel the same way or trade.

there would be no trade rumors with your name in it. Thank you. You've never tell me the time that you've ever heard a trade scenario when Jason Tatum was involved. Every trade scenario has always involved Jalen Brown. Not one scenario has ever had Jason Tatum name attached to it. And you know what? And I'm curious.

I wonder who people think. is a better player out of the two now based on what Jalen Brown is able to do. They still believe it's Jason Tatum. See, there's nothing Jalen Brown could do to change that. Nothing. Even after the average 28.7, even after he got you the number two seed, after you sold off all the pieces that you had, you let Holliday go, you let Al Horford go,

you moved on from Christop Brazinger's. There's nothing, nothing else Jalen Brown can do to convince them that he's a number one option and he's the equivalent of Jason Tatum. Absolutely nothing. That's crazy. And if you know, you hear him speaking out a little more, he knows he sees the writing on the raw.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. He knows this all along where this was coming from. He tried to play it off. Hey, look, I ain't got no problem. I don't know their relationship. Don't particularly care. I'm here to win games. I ain't here to be nobody's friend.

If I have, if I, if I, if I, develop friends and the problem, process of winning. I'm good with that, Ocho. But if I don't, the hell with you. Yeah. And you know the thing is, is they've already won they ring. They've already gotten their trophy. So that that's set in stone. Now, if, if Jaylon Brown is to go somewhere, I think, I think they should run it back. I, I don't see him actually being traded. I, I don't know. And bad basketball is weird. The way they conduct themselves, especially owners, fantasy management. The players got F you money. When they want to leave, it's time to go.