Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Nail refund, Ocho’s hair, men vs. women cheaters

Episode Date: February 23, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best pop culture moments of the week. Top stories include a boyfriend trying to get a nail appointment refunded that goes viral, Ocho claiming he can grow his hair back anytime he wants, men vs. women cheaters and much more!03:94 - Unc and Ocho talk butt shots11:40 - Boyfriend trying to get nails refunded goes viral21:00 - Ocho claims he can grow his hair if he wants to28:30 - They’re just printing money out in LA30:48 - Men vs. Women cheaters—which is worse?41:30 - NFL stars are getting married(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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after he mistakenly took painkiller Tramadol rather than Toradol. Porter said in a statement, I was dealing with an elbow injury and using an NBA approved medication for pain and inflammation. During that time, I made an honest mistake and took a pain reducing anti inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel terrible. I recognize

that I'm responsible for what I put in my body. Porter took painkiller unintentionally, said his agent. Porter thought he was taking Toradol, which you can get it in a pill form or the injectable. Because I know I got plenty of them shots in my butt. He was taken. Porter didn't realize that he was taking Tramadol, which was properly prescribed, but is on the NBA's banned substance list. Doc Rivers said he believed the punishment

shouldn't be so severe given the circumstances. I mean, given the circumstances, obviously, as a player, you got to know what you're putting in your body. Obviously, don't you have people that you talk to before you even get any type of prescriptions? Or, you know, they got the resources the you know the team could give you that yeah the team could give you that whatever it is you need

you have somebody if they if we had it when i was playing i know they i know good and well they got it now hey go to the head trainer hey listen my elbow man is bothering me it's swelling upon me can you get something for me can you give me something so i mean it's like it's bothering me. It's swelling up on me. Can you get something for me? Can you give me something? So, I mean, it's like, it's kind of hard to believe. Like, how do you not know? How do you not know? Because if you need anything, everything you need is right there in-house. You ain't got to go outside for that.

Y'all, to talk about, yes, guys, when you take a Toradol, and it's basically like it's a pain medication, but, boy, you feel so good. I mean, I ain't smoking a weed, and I don't know what it's like, but you feel like, boy, you feel invincible. Now, you feel like your ass got beat with a bat once you get done with that game. Once it go down, yeah. But you get an injection in your butt.

And so that's what, boy but y'all take everything. Y'all try to make everything sexual. I question a lot of you guys. No, no, seriously, Ocho. A lot of these guys, I really question them because they so consumed with that kind of stuff. I'm like, damn, this is the way we talk. I mean, like I said, I don't know

what's in the locker room, Ocho. I've been removed 20 years from the locker room. So I don't know how it is. Right, right. But when we talk like, hey, man, hey, you got that? You got that shot? You got that shot in the butt? I mean, Ocho used to be a line.

It wasn't a one or two. It was a line to get there. I ain't never take the pill now, Ocho. Like I said, I know there is a pill, but I didn't take it. Give me that shot. I need that thing to work quick. Yeah, I had the pill. I had the pill. Obviously, when I tore my labrum, I tore my labrum from 6 to 12,

but I didn't miss no time. Put that harness on there so you couldn't raise it. Yeah, so I couldn't raise it all the way. So I wore the harness, and I took about maybe three weeks. I took the toilet. I took the pill. Man, I wasn't playing with that needle. Oh, no, sir. If it ain't a tattoo wasn't playing with that needle. Oh, no, sir.

If it ain't a tattoo, I'm not doing it. Oh, no, I'll give you that needle. Because that pill, that pill, it got to digest, the liver got to break it down, it got to get processed. No, baby, I need that thing just like that roast farts. I put it up under my tongue, and it dissolves up under my tongue.

Count your boy in. But it wasn't doing that. That shot, getting in that bloodstream. Count your boy in. Count your boy in. But it wasn't doing that. That shot, that shot getting in that bloodstream, pow, pow. Oh, yeah. And so, look, no, Ocho. I took shots in my butt. I took them in my ribs. I took them in my ankles.

I took them in my shoulders. Oh, man, look, hey. Hey, I had to get out there. I had to get it. Mary Porter had to eat. Right. He had to eat. So, like I to get it. Mary Porter had to eat. He had to eat. Like I said, that's the thing

to Ocho. Like you said, they do got. But see the thing is, Ocho, the problem with, we've heard it so much, people lie. Oh, my massage therapist rubbed me down with this cream, and that's how that steroid got in my body. Oh, you know what?

Somebody, my protein shake, and somebody put this in my body. Oh, you know what? Somebody, somebody, my protein shake and somebody put this in my body. So, so now we've become so distrusted and it could have been an honest mistake, Coach O. In actuality, it could have been an honest mistake. Yes, sir. But because people have lied so much and contaminated our thought process. Nah, hell nah. Just go, hey, 25, slap that 25 up on him. Yeah. I mean, but

when you think about it, I'm just saying, if there's something wrong with you, the first place you go to is your training room right there in the facility. They get you everything you want. You don't even have to go outside. There's no point. You have every resource

known to man right there. It's the NBA, huh? Get it. This ain't high school. This ain't your high school basketball team. Remember, what do the pills look like? Is it sugar in a salt situation that you don't know what it is until you taste it?

And then by that far, it's too far down. Now me, Ocho, when I got certain supplements, like, hey, Greek, what you thinking? Hey, he's like, Sharpie, when I got, like, certain supplements, like, hey, Greek, what you thinking? You know, hey, he's like, Sharpie, let me do some research. Sharpie, it's not on the list, but if I was you, I wouldn't do it. That's why I always, Steve Antonopoulos, we call him Greek. And when I was in Baltimore, John Tessendorf, we call him Big Tess. Like, hey, Tess, what you think?

Well, Sharpie, I think you're good to go. Shoot me straight, because I i'm gonna tell you look i went to my athletic trainer and i went to my athletic trainer and they said we're good to go so if it's a lie you need to suspend them because i ain't going nowhere because i remember when they started when they put dhea on that list guys were taking dhea got popped yeah you know and they ended up ephedra when the guy you weren't in the league the time

when rest his soul Corey Stringer he oh the lineman from the Vikings you know guys used to take ephedra it speeds your heart rate up you sweat oh boy look here you're talking about drop 7, eight pounds in a day?

Just like that. Look at his split. Yeah, man. But, boy, you're talking about sweating. Right. Like Michael Jackson before the verdict was read. You're sweating like that, Ocho. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

I'll be you. Hey, but, no, like I said, it could have been an honest mistake but like you said with all the resources and you got now don't even chance it guys don't don't even chance it don't even chance it but i don't know that's what i'm saying you said man i'm scared of that needless tattoo bro you get i like i said I don't have no tattoos. So I don't know if it did it, but I hear did it. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, you got you got to understand. Now I've seen what the needle look like when it's time to get that to it all.

And I've seen the needle when I'm getting this. I got 43 tattoos. You can't see them, but I got them. Yeah, they hard to see, but I got them. And it's a pain that is bearable to me. It's weird. It's weird. I can sit there. I can sit there for a four or five hour session, but you're not sticking me with that Toradol needle.

That ain't happening. Give me that needle. Hey, I can't sit there and let you... Now, look, obviously you got fatty tissue in your butt, got muscle, but think about, Ocho, when they hit that bone in them ankles, or they go in through your ribs, or they hit

that needle this long, and they go in that shoulder, and they got to move it around because they got to get as much medicine in there and in many different areas. Man, please. Are you Claudia? Yeah. I came in to get like a refund or like what I'm doing

because my girl, she came in earlier and she got some $400 downloads. And she was talking about some Uber bullying or ostrich and about to call the cops. What? I get, like she gets home

and bro, it's just some lines at the top. That's not, that's not no $400. Well, first off, I haven't done $400 nails today, so I, I just want to make that, I haven't done $400 nails today. What's your, what's your girlfriend's name? Her name's Stacy. She had an 8 o'clock appointment in the morning today.

I'm going to show you hers, though, because I don't want, I don't want any drama, no BS. Cause this is something you're gonna have to figure out with her, but her nails were only $80 today. Look, here's her, here's her Zelle. It was only $80. I haven't done no $400 nails today dude. So nobody was holding anybody hostage or calling the police or anything like that so you're gonna have to go figure it out with her but i haven't done no 400 nails oh i don't know

i think she likes me i'm gonna talk no she definitely lies to you oh she scammed you bro but i'm not i'm not the scammer here it's your girlfriend so you better go figure it out. Thank you. Yep. All right. Hello. Hey, you know what? Oh, hell. That's his fault. That's his fault. Now, listen, listen,

as a, as a boyfriend, you supposed to know how much maintenance costs for the woman you're dealing with. You got to have some type of background, some type of,

some type of knowledge of nails, hair, lashes, wigs, coloring, you know, sew-ins. You got to know all that stuff. So he's not sharp and he's not detailed

in knowing what his women likes and how much the things cost that she needs for her upkeep. $400? You know better than that. You should know better than that. Yeah, that's... Like, I do nails. I do lashes. You know?

No, I do eyebrows. I thread. You know, I do individuals. I do strips. Like, I do my daughter's makeup. You hear me? So you got to know that stuff, man. He tripping. Like, he don't really need to have

no girlfriend. I'm just being honest, because that's stuff you're supposed to know. If your girl asks you, I need $400 to get my nails done, you're supposed to look at her, are you okay? Are you okay? Because you think I don't know no better?

Man, most guys, I mean, you take your woman, I mean, if she tell you a certain number, you don your woman. If she tell you a certain number, you don't believe her, but you probably need to move on. Yeah. Or what she can do is instead

of lying about it, because if she lie about that, if she lie about something that small, she lie about something big. That's my point. If you don't trust her to tell you that the money that was it cost for to get the nails nails what else you don't trust her about you need to move on it's really that simple and matter of fact

what she did with the rest of the money anyway might have spent it on her side dude probably I'm just saying let me stop that I don't know what she did

with it on her I don't know maybe she went and got maybe she went and got her makeup done maybe she went and got you know got another service provided for with that extra money. I don't know.

If you tell me, Shannon, I need X amount of dollars for my hair, hey, Shannon, I need this and this. Okay, I'm going to give it to you. Man, look here. If every time you ask me for something and if I got to worry about it, if I'm giving it to you and you doing what you say, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Right.

I can't worry. I ain't going to lie to you. I can't even worry about it. Yeah, I understand what you mean, Unc. But just the fact that I'm well versed and I have expertise in all those areas when it comes to the upkeep and understanding the prices and how they range, know varied on what it is you're trying to get yeah that ain't gonna work you ain't gonna pull you ain't gonna pull the wool over my ass i know what everything costs everything from high end to low end so how you want to play the game

yeah and matter of fact you really can't get no money out of me anyway because half your upkeep, I know how to do it anyway. I don't care. I don't care if a woman does know how to do my upkeep. She ain't cutting no hair. Hey, you want her. Hey, I remember I need my lashes done.

Well, come on over here and lay down. What you want? Hybrid? Classic? Mega volume? What you need? Come on, come on over here and lay down. What you want? Hybrid? Classic? Mega volume? What you need? Come on, come on, lay down. What you want, strips? If you in a hurry, I give you some strips real quick. Hell, I give you individuals.

Play with me if you want to. Talk about I need $300. Man, get out my face. No, I mean, that's how I am. Look, I ain't got time. You say, hey, I need X amount for my hair. I need X amount for this. Okay, I need X amount to get my car fixed. Okay, fine.

I'm going to take your word for it. Just be careful now. Yeah. Because once you break my trust, I'm out. Oh, yeah, it's a wrap, boy. It's a wrap. And a wrap and matter of fact you know what I'm going to leave it alone where at

I'm going to leave it alone I ain't going to say it yeah I'm going to leave it alone yeah it's it is what it is man like I said sometimes I don't know sometimes people

take it take advantage of your kindness or your generosity uh whatever the case may be and you know it is what it is Ocho yeah man yeah um it's a situation where you know you're like damn just be honest if the nails cost 400 they cost 400 if they cost 200 they cost 200 if they cost 100 they cost 100 I'm thinking Ocho it's hard for me to see a scenario because hell I get my nails done once a week

and I you know it's at least 110 I mean sometimes it's like I mean some places it's give or take when I go to Atlanta it's like, I mean, some places it's give or take. When I go to Atlanta, it's 140. The lady I did, Tasha. Hey, Tasha, I know you're watching. Hers was 165. Lady here in Vegas, they 110.

It is what it is. Right. So it's hard for me to see a scenario that especially women get what they call them, gels? Acrylics? It's hard for me to see a scenario where they're not going to be at least

150? How much gel nail cost, Chad? You about right. You're right up there. It can get a little bit more expensive when you start adding you about right you right up there so I'm assuming it can get a little bit more expensive when you add the designs now you're talking

yeah I got a friend of mine she does nails I should have hit her up if I knew we was just going to be talking ask how much she charge she probably be trying to break people out she probably be charging $200, $300.

Because, you know, she's like an artist, so she can draw stuff on the nails and stuff like that. And I get that. So, you know, you taking that kind of time, I get it. Somebody said $195. $1,500 for what? Ain't no

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You ever had your hair straight like that, Ocho? No, I had dreads. I had dreads, and they were locked up so I could never take it out and have my hair permed or have my hair straight like that.

Ocho, your hair won't grow. Your hair will just like mine Ocho, your hair won't grow. Your hair, just like mine, low your whole life. Now you bald. I can grow a hair full of hair. No, you can't. I've showed that countless times. I have a full hairline.

Everybody 15 years ago had hair. I'm talking about just... Okay, let's... Do you want me to grow my hair out? No. I'm just saying. The only reason I cut my hair consistently and I've been doing it for so long is I don't like

the maintenance that comes with having hair. I don't want to put grease on my scalp. I don't want to train my hair to lay down. I don't want waves. It's like a whole tedious process and i got sick of it when i'm ready to go i want to get out the shower and i want to dry my head and walk out the house i don't sound like a man that's like a man that said i want to be broke man you think i won't have money in my pocket and in my bank account it's just too hard to keep up with

I understand what you're saying but listen that's apples and oranges them two different scenarios no Ocho you can't grow hair and if you grow it it's minimal I got a full set of hair right now look at my hairline you see my hairline coming in

you see my hairline coming in no no you gotta go a little further back you started at 50 yards don't do that You see my hairline coming in? You see my hairline coming in? And listen. No, no. You got to go a little further back. You started at 50 yards. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. My hairline.

Started at 50. Listen, my hair. Matter of fact, I'm going to get a shave up just for you. What? Shave what up? I'm going to let my hair grow and I'm going to get a shave up. So I can show you I can grow a full set of hair. And I got good hair and I got

good hair I got good hair what is that huh what is that I just showed you Ocho you pointed back here bro you pointed back there

my hairline is right there. It's right there. You're looking right at it. It's right there. Ocho. Look at my forehead. Ocho, from your hairline to your forehead, that's at least a $20 Uber ride. Listen, my head too small, so I know that's not true

But I'm just saying My hairline is intact I think I don't Ocho You see how shiny that is Ocho Hair won't grow there

What do you mean how shiny That's the light That's the light That's the light shining on my forehead That's from my skin care routine That's why That's why I look like this That's why I look like this That That's why I look like this.

That's why the ladies love me. It's this. The chocolate. You're chocolate now. They like that. You get no debate. Hey, no debate for me. Hey, I swallow

this one. Another mother choose to help you God. I do. One thing about it. When tell the whole truth, another mother choose to help you, God. I do. Yeah, one thing about it. One thing, when it comes to chocolate, one thing about women, they ain't got no problem getting cavities. You hear me?

Oh, Lord have mercy. Talk to me now. Lord have mercy, Josh. Jesus. What's wrong? What happened? You may hear. I'm just telling you? I'm just telling you I'm just telling you

I'm not telling you what I heard I'm telling you what I know All I know is this If you'd have been my age in the 80's You'd have got no place Because black wasn't in They like Lasky, they like L to barge Chico to barge

It don't matter what they like. There's something I had that nobody else didn't. And I still got it. Huh? It's called. It wasn't until Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan came in. Wesley Snipes came in.

That's what put us on the map. I've been on top of the charts since they came in. So about mid 80s, like, like 80, Mike came in in 84. So like 80, my senior year, been top of the chart. That ain't it. 40. 40 years I've been on top of the chart. I had a special gift.

I had a special gift. Al B. Shore. That's a good one. Chico DeBarge. El DeBarge. Them boys were nice now but listen if i was if i was there during a time when the light-skinned dudes was in there was something i had that they didn't i don't care about you making no music i don't care about

you singing to the women you hear me because i had to give a gab it was all about wordplay huh huh no they wouldn't let you talk to them. Oh, they gonna talk to this. They gonna tell you. The brother and dark skin brother, we ain't getting no play on you. They gonna talk to Sugar, you hear me? I'm telling you. Hey, I'm gonna make you laugh.

I'm gonna laugh right out the draw. Huh? Hey. Hey. Boy, you ain't getting no play on Joe just like polyester you can make a comeback

but uh Chico and Al DeBart now you got me thinking about the music they made man music was that's some good music the music from the 80s. Music was different by the name. That's some good music, huh? The music from the 80s, it was different. 80s and early... Oh, my God.

But see, I don't remember hearing nothing about no garden tools. It wasn't no 304s. They ain't saying about that. They sang about women. They sang about ladies. They talking about love now

now they're talking about jumping up and down and you need to lock out those fools you know man I just she oh man that's crazy

they just don't make they just don't make it they don't they don't make music like they used to Ocho and everybody I talk to Ocho they said

you know R&B ain't dead but bro they don't make music like they used to, Ocho. And everybody I talk to, Ocho, they said, you know, R&B ain't dead. But, bro, they don't sing like they used to sing. They don't beg. Hold on. They don't beg. They don't beg. I guess because, see, the women used to make you beg to get up out of it. Hey, what song?

Now they begging you to get up. Now they begging you. What song? Well, they begging you to get up. Nah, they begging you. What song is it? Well, they ain't begging me. What song was it? Huh? I give you my credit card, my keys in my house.

I can't think of... I gave you my son, the rain. Yeah. Who was that saying, I'll pay your rent, I'll buy your clothes? Yeah, I know you're

talking about, yeah. That was back in the... I'll tell you, that was back in the day. Now, see, if I'd have sung that song, if I played that song for somebody, they'd know you lying, about yeah that was back in the that was back in the day now see if I'd have sung that song if I played that song for somebody they'd know you lying this channel you broke we see where you live at hey chat what song is that chat

uh oh no what song is that he was baby face where it was the number one baby. Oh, what song is that? He was. About to be Babyface. After 7, Take 6, all of them.

They were the days, though, Chokes. They were the days. I don't know. They print money in L.A. It was the Dodgers. They got Mookie hell and just

and just in two salaries they got a billion dollars Brady Freeman Mookie hey I got a question I got a question listen I don't

I don't want to sign ignorant I honestly I don't we don't let money come in front of me we don't let money come in because. I honestly, I don't. Where all that money coming from, man? Where all that money coming from? Because when I watch games, the games don't never, the stands don't never be full. I'm not talking about the Dodgers.

Oh, they do with the Dodgers. The Dodgers, the Dodgers every year have the most fans. They have every year. Boy, look here. You ain't never been to Charmaine's with me. Boy, you talk about a... Yeah. I wasn't specifically talking about the dollars. I'm just saying in general,

baseball games... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I mean, they got two $700 million players. Two! And they got what you call them making $40 plus million. They got making $ 40 a year.

Aaron Judge, he got nine years, 360. Oh, they got, I don't know. I don't know what they did. Tell me so we both know. Cause if they got a money tree, I'm gonna go chop it down. Man, I'm telling you, man. Listen, I was a highly sold out prospect coming out of high school, man. I was a five-tooler.

And every time I look at them deals sometime, I always say, you know what? I should have stuck with baseball. I don't know if your tool was a lawnmower, a bag hold, a rake, a pick, a shovel. I don't know what your tools were, but they damn sure wouldn't apply to baseball. I'm talking about baseball. Miami Beach Senior High. Man, look me up. Google me.

You can Google me. You can Google. Yeah. Yeah. Pitcher. I was a slugger. Played first, second, third, and outfield. I did everything.

Yeah, you did. I tell you no lie. You know, the Marlins were trying to draft me out of high school right before they won the world series in 1997 they did huh but my grandma said no my grandma ain't play that well you need to focus on school

a woman tweeted men get cheated on all the time in state they just smart enough not to be telling anybody I keep telling y'all this are women more allowed about being cheated on all the time and stay. They're just smart enough not to be telling anybody. I keep telling y'all this. Are women more allowed about being cheated on by men? Most definitely. All the time. All the time. It

happens all the time and most of the time most men do stay and sometimes some of the men that do stay it is simply because sometimes shelter. I don't have anywhere else to go. Sometimes, you know, listen, she is. I'm not saying she's the breadwinner, but you're in a position where you're moving with her.

You're staying with her. It's her place. So, hell, if she does step out, you ain't got nowhere to go. Sometimes you try to work things out. And then you got some dudes that non-negotiable. And he out. But see, if you date privately, you can do this. Because see, everybody ain't going to be in your, if you public, everybody in your business.

Because they're going to know. So you see, the knight have a thousand eyes. Or most knights have a thousand and two because somebody sees you. I like that. I like that. So, with that. So, with that being said, you're right.

Some men, that's a non-negotiable because, hey, that's, all right, that's my package. I'm the only one that opens that. And the thing is about,

now, it used to be this way. It's not this way in the middle. Women have adopted a mindset like a man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They figure anything. Yeah, oh, they have.

They have. Big time. Big time. Oh, he doing it? They figure anything that a man can do. Oh, They figure anything. Yeah. Oh, they have, they have big time, big time. Oh, I could do it too. Oh, tip for that. Oh,

that's what you. Okay. Bad. And then, you know, Ocho, here's the thing. This is what gets you.

You know what she does. You, you know what she does for you. And the phone. Hey, I'm sorry. Don't throw up. Don't throw up.

Don't throw up. Remember, remember at one time, what did I just tell you on the previous show about being number one and being number two? You've been. Yeah, but hold off on some of that. Don't give it. You've been in that number two position.

Yeah, I've been in the pole position. You know what time it is. Hey, I've been the pace car, and I've also been the chase car. I like that. I've been pacing. Yeah. Hey, yeah. And I've also tried to pull the swing shot move and do it.

He block it. Hey, hit that turn. I bumped her. Hey, I bumped drafted. Move on out the way. I pull up in it.

Remember Grace Jones had a song. They pull up to my bumper, baby. Hey, it's a dirty game. And a long black limousine. It's a dirty game. Yeah. So now, because women have adopted the mentality,

I shouldn't say all, but there was a situation. You didn't find these women now? Oh, they don't play? They don't play. They do not play. And then tear you. Yeah. I did.

I see clips like that all the time. They do not play. And then tell you. Yeah. I did. And well, yeah. I see clips like that all the time. Oh, you slept with such and such? And did. Oh. Hey. Hey, that thing, hey. Like, hey, man, look here. That's like, hey, man, look here.

That's why Ocho, man, look. When you're young, you don't really know any better. But as you start to get older, I don't play. Hey, you got a man. I'm good. Don't worry. You let me worry about him. No, no, no.

It's different. Your man might be doing something else, but if Shannon sharp, he found out Shannon sharp. Oh no, no, it ain't. It's not that serious. I'm sure I can find someone,

but my, my grandfather used to say, boy, everybody has somebody. It's just to what extent man or woman, everybody has somebody. What is the to what extent. Man or woman. Everybody has somebody. What is the extent? Is that their wife?

That's their husband. That's their significant other. That's their girl. Whatever the case may be. Defying somebody, I'm talking about just stop ass free. No such thing. It's hard. No such thing.

It's hard. Women play a dangerous game, huh? With that stepping out? You never know. You know how dudes feel about their women? Yeah. They feel about their women, man. Girlfriends,

wives, or even somebody that I'm investing my time in. And then people get, oh, man, why you won't go to No, bro. I done got two strikes. I got two strikes, Ocho.

And baseball, hey, I'm still at the plate, but I ain't gonna get no another strike. You never catch me slipping again. Bro, man, people don't play by that. So why would I even put myself back in that situation again and be how about i mean that's when you most vulnerable ocho you sleep i would stop me from that's what stopped me from sleeping naked god i don't want

nobody to get to drop it man i can't tussle with nobody naked ocho yeah come let me put some clothes on please let me put oh yo i can't wallow with nobody naked. Hey, bro, let me put my shorts on. Right, right, right. But you already know, Ocho, somebody come up and on. I'm a shooter, bro, the size. Ain't nobody trying to bump.

So just keep yourself out of that situation, bro. That ain't even worth it. She got somebody. She tell you she got somebody. Hey, what do you got to do with me? That's between you and him. Yeah, but when he find out, that's between both of y'all. Well, hey, listen,

one thing about it, when you do find out, I wish fellas understand, you know, we continue to be in relationships or unions with an individual that we think they're one way you know especially publicly and you you hope they respect you you know privately and when you find out do you see

signs all you have to do is pay attention to the signs huh hear me it's really easy when you've been the other guy for long enough you understand what it looks like so you pay attention to the signs and when things don't look right and your antenna's up, you already know what time it is. You know what time it is. If all of a sudden she didn't like to work out and all of a sudden she's working out, she's working out for somebody else to see her naked.

Hey, it's easy. Do what you want to do with it. Now, y'all could, oh man, I'm telling you. Hey. Hey, what I tell you all the time, manage your expectations. Once you're able to manage them, it's easy

to see whoever it is for who they are in general. Okay, that's what you want. Okay, bet. You're going back,

going back to business. Yeah. So, the game is the game. Yeah, it is what it is I mean but hey I don't know people I know people that have hurt people about a woman and I know

people that have been hurt I done heard many stories I done heard many stories I ain't correct what they call it these days, like crashing out? Oh yeah, crashing out, yeah.

I'm not crashing out about Nathaniel. Zero. No, no, no, hell no. No, no, no, no, no, no, I can't do that. Zero. Like the kids say, ball up top.

Who's next the fuck oh my god dog it I've been doing good goals in a row I'm sorry hey what the hell don't tell me I think people understand is that like for me it's just like it's just not worth it I stand way more

to lose the game. Say it again real quick for the people. I stand way more to lose the game. There we go. Long as we're on the same page. Nah, bro. Yeah, for sure. I'm like, oh, nah, I'm good.

Hey, and then quick to holler, oh, he doing his thing. Okay, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Let him do his thing and you find somebody else to do your thing. Okay, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Let him do his thing, and you find somebody else to do your thing with. But it ain't going to be me. It ain't. I ain't I don't got too old to fight.

If it's yourself, I ain't got no business fighting. I'm about to be a grandpa for the second time. Congrats. Yeah, but hey, I'm going to see my grandkids. I'm going to have about five or six of them. Hey, I got two daughters. Hopefully they get married soon and start a family.

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Please do. Let me ask you a question. How many times do you see Jordan give an interview without a suit on? Okay, now that's different. Now, off the court, he was straight bitten. Ocho, that's what I'm talking about. Your game, you can't even be the face of the NBA if your game doesn't speak on the court. We're talking about off the court. And see, I caught a lot of flack when I said they kind of want the guy to be a little bit more subtle okay okay jordan married kobe married braun married steph married everybody oh oh oh he just go look at it you're correct you're correct you you are correct you are

correct you you are correct in that sense but for me you know how i am you know i i'm i like the entertainment value i like the entertainment value i like the exciting side i like the person and the people that are going to put butts in the seat i like a john moran being the face of the league they would never let that happen i like anthony edwards being the face of the league they would never let that happen you you get what i'm saying i like i like i like the alan irison of the world to be the face of the league. But it would never happen. Not with him corn rolling in a big bag.

Would he buy it on 5X t-shirts? I'm just saying. I'm thinking about my way of playing the game of football. I could never be the face of anything. Ever. Because of the way my style in which I played I was the exact same way off the field hell I'm still the same way now

so I stay in my lane and I do what works for me because I do it extremely well you look at the quarterback oh but there's one quarterback that has refused to change and has remained his authentic self

he down there in Baltimore he went number 8 he from Pompano ain't changed one bit right who's facing the league right now Mahone

15 yeah okay and before and before he and before he left who was that number 12 12 and then man yeah it's it's it's see it's all about an image whether you live that life or not what do people

because here's the thing you remember tiger tiger was the face of golf he got married he had a family he was wholesome it was was the all-American dream. Why did people get upset? Because that's not really who he was. I'm so glad you just said that because I was just ready to go there when we talk about Peyton Manning. When we talk about Tom Brady. And I talked to Tom when I was in New England.

After seeing him interact and see how he is, when the cameras are rolling and I ask him, are you truly happy not being able to be exactly who you authentically are? How are you? How? You have to mask it for all these

years. This ain't even you. Peyton Manning. I've seen Peyton, the real Peyton Manning at the Pro Bowl. It didn't happen to him talking in the interview. Dude, his offense. That ain't true.

But the thing is, Ocho, is that they've done it for so long because your quarterback is like, when you're one of those guys, they've been quarterback all their life. And so they get to understand, you got to be positive in all situations. When you,

when somebody plays bad, you take the blame. I need to do better of putting my guys in position to make plays. They say, they get so, and so it's,

like you said, it's robotic. It's methodical. You're like, man, why are we, I understand why we got to interview the quarterback, but he ain't gonna

ever give you nothing. Ever. So what are we doing here? Hey, 15 over there in Kansas City. The same way. It's like they went to training. It's like they went to training for this. Give me something different.

Matter of fact, we just talked about this the other night. I mean, you got on me. You got on me about people telling the truth. Remember? Yeah. They just can't. And I don't like that. I don't like it.

I mean, it's just the way it's the nature of the business is the way it will always be. And look at the quarterbacks. What is that? What is that getting married? Jalen Hurst? What is he getting married? Josh Allen? What is he getting married? Oh, you think it's a coincidence? No, not at all.

Okay. Long as we hear we he getting married? Oh, you think it's a coincidence? No, not at all. Okay, then. Okay. Long as we're here, long as we're here, we... Well, listen, it's a funny thing about it, too. As they are finding wives, you know, because in the Bible, it says when a man finds a good... When a man finds a wife, he's finding

a good thing. You notice how things after they get married, things continue to elevate? Things continue to go great? Things continue to... So guess who else is going to get married? Oh, joke. Huh? Yeah. Oh, hey.

Guess what? Oh, shit, too. I'm coming in out the way, too. I'm about to get married, though. Come on, man. You know what they say? You know what they say now? When one out of the group get married, it causes a trickle effect and everybody start walking down the aisle. I'm going to jump the broom. Wait, what?

I'm going to jump the broom. You ain't going to have no ceremony? Hell, if I get married, if that's the wrong one, I jump that cross, we divorce. Uh... yeah you gotta come in on that you gotta come in on that rattle joke hey hey

hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey Yeah. Hey, I was just saying, if it's the wrong one, you're going to jump right across the room? I jump right across the room, jump right across and we divorce. Hey, all that money. And another thing I want you to say, the bigger diamond

that you buy, the more likely it is to get you get divorced. That's what studies show. I was going to ask you get divorced. That's what studies show. I was going to ask you where that came from. Is that real? Yes. Hey, because if you think about our grandparents, they had no diamonds.

They had a gold band. Everybody had a band back then. Yeah. My grandma had a gold band. Grandma Charlie had a gold band. Granite had a gold band. I guess these diamonds came along in the 50s or 60s or something. I don't know.

My grandma got married in the 40s. Yeah, I think Granny got married in like 42, 43. Grandma Charlie got married in like 39, 38, something like that.

But I get it. I get it. You know, you like any women like I won't be, you know, I won't at least six cats. I want at least 10 carrots. I want this. I mean, what kind of carrots? You talk about the kind of bugs bunny. Must be.

Hey, because, hey, the prices on diamonds are coming down. The beers, you see, they got these lab-grown diamonds and it's really,

really hard to tell. And so everybody started flocking to that. But Ocho, I look, at some point in time, Ocho, you know,

I got to come in and I just rain, Ocho. You got to come in. See, see, now you start to listen to me, now.

You hear me? You start to listen to me, now. me? You start to listen to me. Now, I know you got your team of people. They keep everything together for you. You hear me? You know, you got a good squad over there. You know, you got this one. You got things running, you know, consistently in a good way.

But when you find a woman and she lay her hands on you, well, you ain't going nowhere hit you. You hear me? You ain't going nowhere hit you because I don't want you. I don't want you getting older. And I don't want to see you in the home. I'm living with my daughter. How you going to invade her space like that?

He already told her boyfriend, my daddy old he go i mean he gonna stay with me all right okay i was like nah you too much like me you be yelling and screaming i can't i can't take that you know you you making jokes now i want you to think about something now what you were thinking about statistically you're 57 right i'll be 57 in june we're gonna do something special i'm i'm 47 right you got the thing yeah we've already lived the better half of our life oh yeah yeah i'm close i tell myself listen to me now stay with Chat, we've lived the better half of our life. Now, we still have a good amount of life to live. But at this point, we ain't got no time to be playing no games.

If we ain't found nobody in our 20s, we ain't found nobody in our 30s. You know, you ain't found nobody in your 40s. You know, I'm finna be 50, man. I ain't got time to be playing no more. You hear me? But when I tell you, man, it's my time and I deserve. I'm perfect. I ain't never been perfect, but I deserve. I know my time is ticking.

My clock is ticking. I'm going to get what I deserve. I ain't got time to play. Oh, I wanted to show you that Cardi crash, too. I forgot. I got to show you that, you know. That joke was spitting all that money. Hey, listen.

Thanks to Nightcap, you know. I'm moving different all 2025. I'm moving different. I'm going to tell you something in chat. If you pay attention I got one quote that will be signed anytime you see me moving and acting different

and out of character oh we saw it well it's your fault it's your fault it's your fault because I'd never do things like this were able to happen if I wasn't catching the football and scoring touchdowns. Huh? When they tell you God is good, boy, you ain't been nothing but a blessing.

You hear me? I'm going to be the first one to thank you. They're talking about Jesus got this wheel. Shit, I don't got the wheel. Nah, it we just, it's, man, look,

like I told you, like, oh man, when we gonna get, you know, you and I had a conversation offline. I said,

no, Joe, we gonna be so good. They got, they got, hey, listen, they coming.

They gotta come see us. You saw the movie Feel of Dreams, right? You know what they said in the movie? In the movie, they said,

build it. If you build it, they will come now for us people have to also understand when it comes to us state say look look look use your eyes now when it comes to us things come a little bit more difficult and we got to work a little harder to get we want to go well we we just we keep doing what we do it they a little harder to get where we want to go. We keep doing what we do and they're going to have to come see us because they see our fan base.

Look, we're going to have doubters, mays, haters, whatever you want to call them. But all I know is that 25,000, 50,000, 80,000, 90,000 they watch, they listen, and they like our content.

A lot of times people quote, come back and they quote our content. So advertisers, sponsors see that. Trust me. I'm sitting in the meetings with them. I'm talking to them. I know what they're saying.

So all that other stuff that people be talking about, oh, they ain't talking about nothing. Who ain't talking about nothing? Who ain't? Boy, you better tune in for two hours, especially on a night like tonight where I'm feeling good. You can tell I'm feeling good because I'm talking real goddamn fast. And I ain't

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