Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: NBA Playoffs reaction: Jayden Daniels joins

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Sunday's NBA playoff games, and are joined by Heisman trophy winner Jayden Daniels to discuss the NFL Draft process, playing with top prospects Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr., and being coached by Las Vegas Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce. 0:00 Introduction03:00 Thunder beat Pelicans09:10 Clippers beat Mavs19:30 Celtics beat Heat25:55 Bucks Beat Pacers30:30 Jayden Daniels Joins the show #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you so much for staying up late with us tonight, guys. Thank you very much. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your host, your favorite uncle, Shannon

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He done made up with rail. So now he has his name back, his entire name, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Hashtag Rail Risotto, hubby. Thank you for joining us again. Please, please, please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you so much. And please make sure you guys subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed you can listen to us through the club

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MVP candidate again Shea Gilgis Alexander with a three point play that put them up and then Chad Holm hit a free throw made one of two, put him up two and CJ got the ball, knocked away, got a shot up

but it didn't look like it was close to going in from the back. They hold on to win and keep home court as they win 94-92. Watching this ball game, lead change, lead change, 10-point lead, 9-point lead, looked like OKC was in control of the

game but the pelicans come storming back take a lead briefly uh but the pellet uh but the uh thunder would not go away that's a very scrappy team and for a team to be so young they find ways to win ball games late in the ball game what did you like about what you saw, Ocho? I like Shy. Obviously, being an MVP candidate, games like this is when you have to step up and play like an MVP. Obviously, he was 11 for 24. The lead changes, obviously,

the game of basketball being a game of runs and that's exactly what this game did. The lead continued to change back and forth between the Pails and the Thunder, but shy coming coming up big is it i want to say his name right home green home green yeah listen play play play well too man brother no brother brother really brother really tall now yeah brother really tall he he played very well as well. I like it.

I like it. I enjoyed the game. Obviously, you know, for me, you know, I'm not much of a basketball fan, but watching these games and getting a little bit more into it for me has been very, very exciting and learning the game on the fly and on the run as I am now. I'm enjoying it a lot. Well, you have to give the Thunder credit because they did a great job on Brandon Ingram. They made it tough for him all night. They challenged him.

They got up under him. They contested every shot. He could seem to never get a rhythm. But the turnovers late really hurt the Pelicans. I thought they had an opportunity. They get a rebound and Larry Nance Jr. Throw the ball out of bounds. They get another rebound and then they turn it over.

They let the Thunder poke the ball out from the back and they giveance Jr. throw the ball out of bounds. They get another rebound, and then they turn it over. They let the Thunder poke the ball out from the back, and they give that up. Brandon Ingram get a shot. He gets a one-on-one on Lou Dort, and he gets an offensive foul call. It was just so many things down, and you would thought this was something that the Thunder would do. Right. I didn't kind of expect the Pels to melt down like they did,

but give the Thunder credit because they made the plays when they had to make it. Because they could have easily folded 10, got depressed. Man, we had a 10-point lead. Here we are late in the ballgame, but they held it together. They got the ball to their best player, Shea, and he did an unbelievable job. He got the end one. He made the shot, and that's what you have to have. Your stars have to come up big.

And tonight, the Pell's best player, Brandon Ingram, obviously with Zion being out, you're relying heavily on him. 5 of 17, 0 of 2 from the three-point line. He only got to the free throw line twice. That's not good enough. That's not good enough. You get 21 from Trey Murphy, 8 of 18. You get 9 of 22 from CJ, 20 points.

You need – Brad B.I. needs to be in that 20-point range. I thought Valanchunas did a great job on the glass, 13 with 20 boards. He had nine offensive rebounds. That gives you an opportunity to get a lot of second-chance points, but give the Thunder credit. They hell serve at home. The one thing that you don't want to do is lose game one on your home

court because now the team feels really good, so they've stolen the game. And so give the Thunder credit. They played well down the stretch, played well enough to win the ball game. This was a game I thought the Pells could have won and probably should have won. But if they want to have an opportunity to win this

series, Brandon Ingram is going to have to play better than what he played tonight. Right. I mean, so, obviously, Brandon Ingram is going to have to play better in this situation. Do you think the outcome of the game changes if Zion played tonight? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, I mean, we know what Zion is. I mean, he's a guy that

can go get you a double-double. They have no answer forouble. They have no answer for it. They have no answer. They don't have anybody that can put a body on him and keep him from getting to the paint. Man, you see how he was going through AD. He was going through Rui. He was going past LeBron.

The Thunder don't have anybody that can neutralize that, but probably not going to be back in this series. So you're not thinking about having him. You're not even thinking about him because they say two weeks. You know hamstring. And when you got to do

certain bursts, that thing grabs. So you got to err on the side of caution because you don't want him to rip it off the bone. So for all intents and purposes, he's not playing in this series. And so you need to frame your mind. What we have in this locker room that dress impales gear, that's what we're going to have to win with.

Brandon Ingram is going to have to play better than what he played. I know Herb Jones is better than what he gave. He only gave you eight points tonight. They only got 13 points off the bench. Alvarado normally gives them a little more than what he gave him uh uh no they had let's not take that back they had 18 points off the bench larry nance had some big time rebounds like i said he had eight rebounds didn't play a whole lot of play less than 20 minutes but the opportunities that they squandered like i said three turnovers you got the ball in your hands

and larry nance throw the ball out of bounds there's cj standing right in front of him and he throws it to a guy that has his back turned that damn out of bounds when he threw it to him. Right. And so just the turnovers late in the ball game. And that's the focus. I'm sure Willie Green says, hey. This is a game we could have won. We probably should have won. Let's come out there with that same focus, that same mindset, clean some of the things up, and we'll be okay. But the Thunder hang on and get a hard-fought victory, 94-92. You have to be pleased with this because this is a game that could have swung the other way, but the Thunder have found a way to win the ballgame.

Kawhi Leonard missed the Clippers' season opener against the Mavericks on Sunday due to knee inflammation, but the Clippers won anyway. The Clippers managed to do just fine without him in game one, never trailing in the ball game, leading by as many as 29 points, thanks to James Harden and Paul George,

who combined for 50. Zubas added a career-high playoff high, 20 points, also added 15 rebounds. Now, if you tell me the beard, you notice I didn't say James Harden. See, they don't want James Harden to show up. They want the beard to show up. If James Harden shows up, you're going home.

As long as the beard shows up and plays like this, he was aggressive. He was looking at it, looking for a shot, but he wasn't too aggressive that he made other players get out of there. I love what Ty Lue did early. Ty Lue said, man, y'all ain't got nobody big enough

to deal with Big Zoo down low. If you notice, they went to Big Zoo early. That's what they normally do with an Anthony Davis. That's what they normally do with a Joel Embiid or one of these other big guys. But he's like, man, Daniel Gafford, you're too light in the backside, bro. You ain't got enough bricks in your back pocket.

And Zoo Boss did a number on him early in the ballgame. So now we got to send double. We got to send help. Okay. In the process of you sending help, now you're going to leave these shooters open. And they made them pay. But I thought Beard played really well.

PG got it going in the fourth quarter. But they knocked down shots. And that's what you have. Terrence Mann knocked down some big shots. They had guys that knocked down big shots. What were they? 50% from the three-point line, Ocho. 18 to 36.

11 to 13 from the foul line. Obviously, they're a junk shooting team with the exception of, like I said, the only guy that really posts up is Zubaz because Ty Lue felt that they had an advantage with size inside. Mm-hmm. Well, hell, goddamn, the Clippers bench outscored the Mavs damn near 20-10. You got James Harden playing out his mind. Kawhi is out with injury.

Paul George played well. And obviously Zubac is a mismatch for really basically damn near everybody the Mavs have. Yeah. Basically, yeah. Gafford iss have. They do, yeah. Basically, y'all. Gafford is not big enough. I like Lively the second. He's small, but he's very athletic.

But, what's going to have to happen, I already know what I'm going to get from Kawhi and Luka. When he comes back. I know what I'm going to get. I'm going to get somewhere around 55 to 65 points on a nightly basis. What are those other guys going to do?

Daniel Jones played 18 minutes, gave me zero points. Daniel Graffer played 14 minutes, gave me three points. P.J. Washington, he gave me 11. He normally gives me probably about 15. I could have used that. But then, what did Cleaver? One for five from the field, 0 for three from the three-point line,

he gave me three points. Tim Hardaway Jr. gave me six points. Lively gave me three points. That's not good enough. But those other guys, because look at it. Paul George had 22. Zuboff had 20. The Beard had 28.

Terrence Mann had 13. Russ came off the bench and gave you 13. You see the balance scoring? Because see, now I'm looking at it. I'm looking at, I already know what Kyrie and Luka's going to do. You can see that. Yeah.

None of you other guys going to do anything. They got to step up. Hell, the first half, the Mads had the worst offense in the first half and obviously, and they play off history. So if you got to have your supporting cast show up so Luka and damn Kyrie don't have to be Superman. If they don't have

to be Superman and everybody else shows up to play ball, they're going to be fine. I still think obviously the Clippers have an edge and have an advantage once Kawhi comes back. I like the big three as opposed to their two-headed monster over in Dallas. So if Beard continues to play consistent and shows up, not being James Harden, but shows up being the Beard and playing consistent basketball,

I think they have a chance to go pretty damn far in the damn playoffs. Yeah, you look at them. They only shot less than 39% from the field. The Mavericks did. They shot 30% from the three-point line. And that's the thing, because I'm counting on Luka, like I said, 55, somewhere between 55 and 65 on a nightly basis.

Can I get, from my other starters, can I get 40? And then can I get another 10, 15 from my bench? I don't think that's asking too much. 40? Yeah, 40 from the other three. That's only 13 points. I mean, P.J. Washington, what was P.J. Washington? What did he average for the season?

I think he averaged about 15. They got to be on fire. And it's playoff time. It's playoff time, too. So, you know, most of the players don't have the confidence to be able to pull the trigger

on those shots. That's why they traded for it. Let that green light go. It's different. Everybody don't have the green light to just pull it. Finally, Luka has someone that can tag team along with him.

Kyrie. He's never had that player. He had it for one year. He had Jalen Brunson. We see what Jalen Brunson is doing with his own team in the Knicks. Now he has a guy. And Kyrie, skill beyond skill. Three level, three mid-range. He's the best small person finisher in the history of the league.

He's one of the best finishers ever. Either hand, got English up and under, dipsy dude, mid-range. Like I said, you file him, he go to the file line, he's going to make 90% of those shots. Luka's going to be Luka. He averaged 34, gave you 99. He scored or assisted more points, total points, than anybody in NBA history.

We know what he's going to do well except will we throw we don't we don't put will in any equation but we know what luca they're going to do but they need pj washington what is pj okay ash is looking at 13 so he averaged 13 so he gave you two what about daniel jones what did he normally give you because they got to get uh either or or tim hardaway j Jones? What did he normally give you? Because they got to get either or. Or Tim Hardaway Jr. is going to have to give you better production off the bench. Somebody's going to have to come along with Luka and Kyrie because that's not enough. Two men are not going to be the team because that's what the Clippers have. And they play great team ball.

Look, Luka's going to get it, but you got to make him get it inefficiently. 11 of 26, 4 of 12. Yeah, he had 33, but it took him 33 shots to get it. I can live with that. I just don't want him to get 33 on 15, 16 shots. That's right. But I also don't want him. Guess what?

And I made him a score. He only had six assists. See, what Luka gets you is that you allow him to get 35, 40, and he has 13, 15 assists. So not only is he getting his, he's allowing other people to get theirs. So if y'all want to play two-man basketball, if y'all want to go out there and score 65, 70, have at it. But them other three and the rest of them ain't getting nothing.

And that's the way Ty Lue's going to approach it. Look, we can't stop them. We can't deal with them. Let's not let anybody else go crazy. Clippers look good. You know what? That got to be difficult, too. I think about it.

I don't know how... I'm thinking about football and coming off the bench and how difficult it is to get into a rhythm or flow in a game. And think about Tim Hardaway Jr. having to come off the bench or the bench players in general having to come off the bench and actually get it's goddamn difficult to get in the goddamn rhythm. No, because that's what you do. It's not like you all of a sudden, Ocho, you're a starter. That's what you do now. If all of a sudden they say, well, Ocho, we need you to, hey, we're going to hold you out the first two series. Now you would have a compelling argument because that's not what you normally does.

This is what Tim Hardaway does. He comes off the bench. Right, right. Damn. There's no excuse because you're in the exact same role you've always been in. Right. Everybody, and that's the thing. That's what you have to do. You have to and that's what the playoff does. The playoff forces you to be at least be who you are. Now the greats take their playoff

they normally increase their points they increase their rebounds or assists. That's what the greats do. We just need or the team just need their role players to do the role what they would normally do. So you think they have a chance as far as the role players, the players off the bench in game two? If they play like they normally play, this was one of the most clutch teams.

Clutch, last five minutes of the ball game, game within five points. That's what clutch is defined as in NBA terms. This was the best, if I'm not mistaken, this was the best Clutch team. You can understand why. They got Luka. They got Kyrie. They put you in the pick and roll. Now, they can lob it to Gafford. They can lob it to Lyle.

So, yeah, I expect the Mavericks to play better. I don't think they're going to go another quarter where they just score eight points. They scored eight points in the second quarter. So that kind of doomed them, and they were fighting an uphill battle from that point on. You score eight points in a quarter, and you allow a team to have a 26, 27-point lead. Now, you saw Kyrie got it going in the third.

I think he'll probably try to insert himself a little earlier because Luka got it going early. Kyrie kind of took a back seat, and then Luka went away in the second, but Kyrie didn't get it going to the third. So they let too much separation get between them and the Clips before they were able to try to put a dent in it. And they only got it. I think they cut it down at one point. Not the final score. The final score is

12. Yes, it's 12. But I think at one point in time, I think with eight minutes, I think they got it like 14 or 16. But that was really as close as they got. But P.J., Daniel Jones, Daniel Gafford, Hardaway Jr., they're going to have to play a lot better. I don't know what happened

to Kleber's shot. I mean, he was throwing up bricks left and right. I mean, he wasn't even hitting the rim on those three he was taking. Right. Hey, playoff basketball, baby. Yeah. And make a fool of it. Make a fool of us all.

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and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jason Tatum had his first career. This is the first career triple-double, right? Playoff career triple-double.

As the Celtics run past the Butlerless Heat, 1-14 to 94. Game really wasn't that close. Temperance flared in the final minutes when Caleb Martin undercut Tatum for a rebound attempt and sent him crashing to the floor. Brown got up in Martin's face, leading to a brief scrum before double technicals were called on

Brown and Martin. Miami was pushed around most of the game, limited to five offensive rebounds, four after the game. The Celts controlled the game from the tip. They won the big muscle areas, definitely three-point line, and the majority of the areas in between. But nobody's surprised that Boston won definitely three-point line, and the majority of the areas in between.

But nobody's surprised that Boston won the three-point line. Because you know why? Nobody takes and makes more threes than the Boston Celtics. So with that being said, where is this? I need to. Oh. No. Scores. I got.

Yeah. Yeah. The Celtics look good. I mean, they were they were raining threes early and that's what they do. And that's a blessing and a curse, Ocho, because the thing that can happen is that they end up shooting you out the gym or they miss and shoot you back in it. In the game, yeah.

Yeah. So they ended up, wow, 22 of 49 from the three-point line. 22 of 49. That's 45%. Miami was 12 of 37 and so you got jason tatum had a triple double with 23 points uh derrick white had 20 points uh christopher zingers had 18 jb had 12 hauser had 12 uh al horford had 10 hauser really got it going. They made a stretch run. They tried to make it close in the second quarter. And I think Hauser hit three straight threes and

blew the game back open. And the Celts really never looked back from that. But this is what the Celtics do. They take an enormous amount of threes. And if they're hitting, they're going to shoot you out the gym. I thought Miami, the Miami didn't have a coaching problem. They had a math problem. They had a math problem.

They was giving up threes and taking twos. You're not going to be able to win a game like that. Obviously, you're not going to be able to compete, especially with the Celtics shooting efficient from behind the line. Yes. But I think what Spohr is going to do, they're going to make the right adjustments. They're going to make the adjustments they need to do.

And I think even though I think the Celtics not even think, the Celtics are a better team. I'm just going to do, they're going to make the right adjustments. They're going to make the adjustments they need to do. And I think, even though I think the Celtics not even think, the Celtics are a better team. I'm just going to be honest. The Celtics are a better team. But I think coaching is what's going to keep. Spolster is going to keep the heat in this game or in this series for that matter and make it closer to what people think it's going to be.

I got to make it ugly. Very, very ugly. The Celtics want to play a masterpiece type of a game. They want to move the ball, get a bunch of threes. Nah, I want to make it like a grease pig. I want to make a county fair where it's poopy all over the ground. It's litter, people just throwing their cups on the ground.

I want it nasty. That's the only chance that you have because you can't play a fluid game with this team because they have you outgunned. You don't have a Tatum. You don't have a JB. You don't have a Przingis. You don't have that.

Your bench is not as deep as theirs. You know, they come with housing. They come with Al Horford. They're paid. You know, can control the game. He can knock down shots.

He can push the ball. He can distribute the ball. Yeah, this is man. If Boston doesn't win it this year, they don't win it this year. That window's closing or has it closed already? It's not closed because this is, I mean, Jason Tatum's 25. I think JB's 26.

Right. So, but I'm saying, but it's not like, wow, teams wait, teams are getting better. Yeah. Free agency is going to come. Hey, you, you never know what a Philly might get somebody or somebody else, you know, the Knicks might get a big piece. You don't know. So that's why you have to seize the opportunities when they present themselves. Hey, we know the West, hey, the West is the West. But I think they have an excellent chance to win this year

because they're loaded. You know, you look at Holiday, who can defend. Derek White is a very good on-ball defender. Przingis can control the plane. Al Horford is another guy that can rim protect and can control the plane as far as with the bigs. So this is a great opportunity for them. It's going to be a very disappointing season

if they don't get it done. But Miami only had five offensive rebounds. Boston cleaned them up on the glass with a plus 10 on the glass, plus five on the offensive glass. That won't get it done. That won't get it done. That won't get it done. What's the chances?

What percentage you give the Heat winning this damn series? Without Jimmy Butler,.005. I mean, God damn, man, Jimmy. I wonder how long the extent of his injury is with that MCL. What do you think? MCL? He ain't coming back no time soon. Joel Embiid had a meniscus. Did he have a men injury is with that MCL. What'd you think? MCL? Nah, he ain't coming back no time soon. Joel Embiid had a meniscus.

Did he have a meniscus or an MCL, Joel? I think he had a meniscus. It was just a little sprain, though, right? Just a little sprain? I don't see him coming back with at least two weeks. Damn, boy, we ain't got a damn chance then if that's the case. Nah. I mean, somebody goddamn Bam got to be,

Bam got to turn into Akeem Elijah one or somebody. I mean, he gave you 24 and 6. Tyler Hero struggled today. Jaime Hawkins played really well. He gave you 16, Jaime Hawkins Jr. DeLon Wright came off the bench and gave you 17. 5 of 5 from 3. You just don't have

the manpower. We have to shoot. Even if we don't have the manpower, we have to be efficient from the field and shoot the same way we did against the Bulls. We was hitting everything. Yeah, but that's not the Bulls. It's the Bulls.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. So, you got your work cut out for you, Ocho. The Bucks beat the Pacers 109-94. Dame Lillard, his first half, it's his third first half

with 30 or more in his playoff career. Since 1997-98, no player has more such a half than Dame. Dame Lillard has three. Devin Booker and LeBron James have two. He went off for 35 points in the first half, and then he got picked up in the second half by Middleton and Bobby Portis, who played tremendous in the second half.

Both of those guys played well. Dame carried him in the second half. Both of those guys played well. Dame carried them in the first half. And then BP and Chris Middleton did an outstanding job in the second half of carrying them, and they ended up winning the game 109-94. Siakam had an outstanding game. He was 15-25, 36 points. Miles Turner had 17 points. But they need more from Mimhard and Halliburton. Halliburton only had nine points. You got nine points. Miles Turner had 17 points, but they need more from Nimhard and Halliburton.

Halliburton only had nine points. You got nine points, you got to have 15, 20 assists. You can't be under double digits in both points and assists. He led the league in assists. I think he had about 12 a game and he gave you nine. That's not

good enough. Nine points, eight assists. Nimhard gave you six points. Nismith gave you nine. That's not good enough. Nine points, eight assists. Nembhard gave you six points. Nismith gave you seven points. And then you got Portis. He gave you a double-double, 15 and 11. You got Chris Middleton gave you a double-double, 23 and 10. You got Dame gave you 35. Pat Bell gave you five.

Lopez gave you 11. And then you get off the bench. You got Crowder gave you five. Connington gave you six. And Beasley, Malik Beasley gave you five. Lopez gave you 11. And then you get off the bench. You got Crowder gave you five. Connington gave you six. And Beasley. Malik Beasley gave you nine. Man, that's crazy. With Giannis

being out, obviously Giannis is out. Portis came in and played pretty good. Obviously 15 points, 7 for 15. Shooting 11 boards. Damian Lillard going to be Damian Lillard. Yeah. He's been off some games. He's been off. We're not sure which Damian Lillard is going to show up,

but obviously it's playoff time. You probably know what he's going to give you. I think if the Pacers can win the next game, what is the chance you think Giannis comes back and makes the series even that more interesting well I mean I think that's the best he got a strange head I think he had what Joe Burrow had

yeah and how many games did Joe Burrow miss how many weeks did Joe miss three two or three yeah so just imagine yes and see that's the thing see and it's different than Giannis. Giannis got to get up and down.

He got to do sudden movements. Right. Calf injury for a basketball player and a football player is entirely different. And when I think about it, remember when KD came back from injury in 2019 to try to save the series? You think Giannis would try to save the series you think you think you think Giannis will try to pull

some stuff like that because he had he had to say so at the end of the day he not listen to them damn doctors especially if if the Pacers

for some god forsaken reason make the series a little closer to what people expected to be do you think he'd be like

you know what I got to play I got to come back because he don't want to run that risk. Because KD came back with the calf and you see what happened. Giannis doesn't want to run that risk.

Right. And see, for me, this works perfect for Dane because he's used to being in situations where he's the guy. Right. So now, but he has a better supporting cast. Bobby Portis, perfect for Dane because he's used to being in situations where he's the guy right so now but he has a better supporting cast Bobby Portis uh Middleton and not to take anything away from CJ but if you look at the overall makeup of the team what he has a starter I think they're better

positioned now obviously if Jan is there he's not gonna be uh he could get it but I can believe Dame Lillard could he have four or five more games like he had the first half? Yes. Maybe he doesn't score 35, but I've seen Dame Lillard stay hot for a month. So don't say, well, he ain't going to shoot. Yes, he can. You've seen him. If you've followed this young man's career, you've seen him heat up like

this. I just knew he was going for 50. I'm surprised that he didn't score any points in the second half, but like I said, Middleton and BP picked him up in the second half, but like I said, Middleton and BP picked him up in the second half, but he was on fire in the first half. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's amazing to see this.

Ocho, we're going to get right into it because we got a special guest that's on the line for us. Guys, let's welcome Heisman Trophy winner LSU's own. The draft is Thursday, and he's going to hear his name called very very early in that process let's welcome Heisman Trophy winner

from LSU Jayden Daniels Jayden what's up? how you doing bro? Jay was good what? what's happening? man chilling chilling right here.

I'm trying to see how you feeling, man. That childhood dream is going to happen in a few more days. How you feeling? Man, honestly, like anxious. Like, you know, I'm just ready to get this, hear my name called and get to work. Has it hit you yet?

Like, it hasn't really set in yet, huh? Nah, it hasn't really set in. You know, I've been everywhere you know flying back forward being on flights you know 30 visits top 30 visits stuff like that so I really had time

to really sit back and really think about it whoa whoa whoa hold on hold on Jay why you taking all them visits you like where y'all

picking y'all picking 28 I ain't gonna be there I ain't coming to see y'all man stop playing with me this is once in a lifetime thing yeah yeah you gotta take them I ain't coming to see y'all, man. Stop playing with me. This is also a lifetime thing. Yeah, you got to take them all. You get on the frequent flyer miles, huh?

Trying to. So walk us through the process. Okay, you win the Heisman. Yeah. You're like, okay, I can't do any more at LSU. I'm out of here. Okay, so now you go through the process. Talk us through, talk our audience

through what's going through Jaden Daniels' mind once he wins the Heisman, once you have the year that you have. From that point, you have the year that you have. You're the 2023 Heisman Trophy winner. Walk us through from there. I mean, once I heard my name, even before that point,

I kind of like, after the Texas A&M game, I was like, man, I ain't got nothing left for college, man. I can't do it. I can't play in this bowl game. Right. You know, I was like, man, I'm telling all my people, like, closest one to me, like Malik and Brian and all, I'm telling them, like, man, I'm out. I can't play in this bowl game. Love y'all.

But it's time for me to move on. And then from there, kind of really just moved out of Louisiana, moved back to California. Took like two weeks off. And then after our bowl game, got to work. So you started, so you go through the draft. I mean, so when did you, when did you, because obviously as Ocho asked you, this is a lifelong dream. And so now you're about to fulfill. This is not the

end of one journey. It's the beginning of another journey. So what is your expectations? Are you going to be in New York? I mean, excuse me, Detroit? I'm going to Detroit. Okay. So that's always been a lifelong dream to be there and to walk on that stage and give Roger Goodell that hug.

Honestly, it hasn't. My lifelong dream is being first round pick and hearing my name. I've thought about it differently, but then once you're in the process and you know you can go high,

I'm like, man, everybody like Madison wants a lifetime opportunity to walk across that stage, you know, hold that jersey up. So I'm like, man, I can't miss out for sure.

It's one thing that I always thought about. Most of the time, you just want to get drafted. But I know players in the back of their mind, they always think about a favorite team that they always wanted to play for. So as a child growing up,

who was your favorite team growing up? And how do you feel about your chances of playing there? Now, I'm not asking you where you want to go. No, my chances are slim playing there. My chances are very slim. They got a QB. But growing up, my favorite team was the 49ers. So, you know, they got a team.

So my chances are very slim going there. Right. Yeah, they messed that up, Jay, when they traded up a couple years ago to the third pick. Maybe if they hadn't done that, that might have been an opportunity for you. We never know. So now that you,

so what is it? So your family's around, obviously your mom's going to be there. So what's it like to know that, you know what, I'm going to be able to take care of my mom. I don't know if your mom's working or your dad's working,

but you're the, hey, baby got this thing. Now shut it all the way down. Yeah, man. Both my parents still working. Shut it all the way down. Yeah, man. Both my parents still working. So it'd be able, not everybody looking at me. So I'll be able to,

you know, it's, they put in all the work, you know, to get me to this point, to sacrifice and stuff like that. So be able to take care of them a little bit. Not too much,

you know, they still got to work, but, but you know, whenever, whenever I get the chance to take care of them, man, I'm going to take care of them. Once I get to that second contract, then we can talk about different stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Talk about retiring and stuff like that. Yeah, give me three years. Give me three years. Just hold on for three years. That's a good one. Listen, you had an exceptional, exceptional season last year. Now, from my understanding, you played so well due to your nutrition

and what you ate before games. Yeah. Pre-game meal was an omelet and two waffles. Two of them. Now, once you get to the NFL, will you change your routine

as far as nutrition is concerned? You're going to stay true to yourself. Hey, I'm in between,'re going to stay true to yourself. Hey, I'm in between, man. I'm true to myself. I can get away with it a little bit. I eat fast food still to this day, Wendy. That's what I'm talking about.

That's why you're going to be successful at the next level. You heard that? You heard him? I still eat fast food, man. Let's go, man. That's what I'm talking about. But have you talked to any teams and have your trainer said,

Jay, we probably need to put about 10, 15 pounds on you? Not right now, but through the process over the next year or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely. Teams I talked to, it was like, what I played last year, I was like around like 205. So it was like, you know, we was going to put on weight progressively, but we ain't going to overload you. So your

play start to digress. Talk to us about you started out at Arizona State. And then you go to LSU. What was your thought process of entering the portal and going to LSU and leaving Arizona State? Man, that was hard.

You know, just being there for three years, you know, I got love, much love for Herm. Y'all love Herm, Marv, AP, all those guys. So it was hard just to leave them. You know, I still to this day, I remember Marv was blowing my phone like, come talk to me before you leave. Talking to Herm before I left, I was like, man, it's hard. But one thing about them, they always respected me.

You know, they told me if I don't got nowhere to go, I still got to go home here. So, you know, to this day, it was a genuine love. But transferring to LSU, man, honestly, what to expect? I just need a fresh new start. You know, I want to go compete against the best. You know,

the SEC, the boys in the South, built a little different. So I want to go down there the best. You know, the SEC, the boys in the South built a little different. So I want to go down there and play against them and play with them. And I was blessed enough to go to LSU. LSU was an opportunity for me. And I was able to play on the biggest stage. Was it a shock once you got to the second, realized the difference from playing in the Pac-12 as opposed to being in the second once you got there?

Was it not a culture shock, but was from a skill perspective, was it eye-opening? Man, yeah. I mean, I'll just say like the mentality. You know, you got I was blessed enough to play with

Malik and Brian, you know, and every day I practiced, no matter who it was, O-line, D-line, receivers, linebackers, DBs, you know, every day I practice, no matter who it was, O-line, D-line, receivers, linebackers, DBs, you know, they always talking, talking crazy, man. And that's one thing about Malik, man. He's always talking crazy no matter what. He thinks nobody can guard him.

He's always open. He got the little doggingness. I respect that. But, you know, all across the board, they all got the dogging because of how they were raised. They wasn't raised with much. They didn't have much to do but football. So, you know, this is all they know. That's dope, man.

You go to LSU. Did you think this type of season was possible? I mean, you had some fantastic runs. You had some fantastic plays at Arizona State. But did you think this? Yeah. Man, honestly, I knew, like, before I went to college, I was like, man, I want to win a Heisman.

But going, taking it back, going to, back to this offseason, I was like, man, I'm going to win this Heisman. Like, that was my goal, Heisman. I put it, you know, we working out in the weight room. I put it up on top of the rack. You know, the strength coaches put, like, a coaches put a plaque for me, me and Malik. Malik had Belenikov, I had a Heisman. We work out and

we constantly just looking at it. We had that goal set. We trying to go get this. Then we just started balling. Our chemistry, just the whole offensive chemistry, man, started heading off. We took off from there. That's dope, man. Listen, obviously obviously with you going to

the next level there are some great quarterbacks going to the draft obviously brother brother drake may caleb williams and there's some michael pennix jr incidents and other players what do you think separates yourself from the other quarterback excuse me what do you think separates yourself from the other quarterbacks in the draft from your your own perspective man i i say uh i mean i can't speak for everybody but i'm a competitor i'm a dog man uh you know and in my capability you know i can you know you give me the lane i could go 80. right that separates me man just uh you know i'm getting to know those guys, I mean, I know they all got high football IQ, but I would say just that dog in me, like, you know, this is all I know. You know, I grew up football.

I was always doubted. You know, people doubted me to this day. So, you know, I take that, you know, and add it to the fire at the end of the day. But other than that, man, you know, just my escapability, man, my legs. I don't know. God bless me with those. I got to keep using them.

So how's the business going? You go to these teams, you say you have up to, you have 30 visits. I don't know if you take it all 30 of them. So when they get, so walk our audience out, viewing audience and our listening audience through, what is it like for Jayden Daniel? Let's just say, okay, you go, you went to Washington and New England and Arizona.

Let's just take those three teams because they're in the top five. And what are they asking you to do? Are they asking you to diagram plays? They ask you, okay, what's this play and what you did in college? What's that process like? Man, it's kind of just like they want to kind of introduce you to the offense, quiz you a little bit, get up and, you know, do a little cadence in there, learn more about yourself.

It's kind of like on those visits, they want to learn more about the person. You know, they know about the football player, but they want to learn more about the person, like, your background, where you come from, you know, how was you raised, stuff like that. So that's kind of what I'll be getting. And then from there, they really want to see your football IQ. Like, what can you remember?

It's kind of like, you know, they quiz you a little bit. So they just want to see if you're a smart football player, especially being a quarterback. You know, you got to have a high football IQ. So that's stuff like that that I kind of did when I was on the visits. That's dope. Listen, I'm not Mel Kiper Jr. I'm not Mel Kiper Jr. I'm not, I'm not Cleo, but I have a epiphany that for some reason you will end up with AP at the Raiders. Now, I don't know how they going to jump all the way up to number two, I'm not sure. I just think

that's what's going to happen. I'm telling you. If you just so happen to be a Raider, I just want to be the first one to get a jersey. I just want to be the first one to get a jersey. I'm going to be signing it. I'm going to put it up back here. I'm excited for you, man. I'm excited for you.

I ran into you a couple of times. You were my son over at ASU at one point. I'm excited, man. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for you. I done ran into you a couple of times. Obviously, you were my son over at ASU at one point. I'm excited, man. It's going to be really dope to see you walk across that stage. Man, I appreciate that. Since we're talking about the Raiders,

AP was the DC when you was at Arizona State. And this would be an opportunity if you were made a move because obviously you're not going to be, you're not going to be there when they select. So they're going to have to jump over a lot of people to select you. What would that, what would, you have, you have, you know what it's like, you know, AP, you know, you know how he is as a person,

you know how he is as a coach. What would that be like to be reunited with a guy that you was with at Arizona State? I don't know how they're going to pull it off. But I mean, that's above my pay grade, man. I wouldn't do it. I ain't trading. Why would I give up that?

You a transformational quarterback, Jay. I ain't giving that up. Hey, man. Just AP, man. AP, just as a human being. You know, he the right coach for that team. Just AP, man. AP, just as a human being. He's the right coach for that team. Just him and the intensity it brings. He challenges people. He was challenging

me at 18, so I know if I was to go to the Raiders, I'm not saying I'm going to go there or I want to go there. I want to go wherever my name is called, but if I was to go to the Raiders, I know as soon as I step foot, he's going to challenge me. He don't care how high I was drafted, none of that. You know, he going to challenge me every day.

So have you thought about, go ahead Ocho, go ahead. Oh yeah, I say when you think about what's very important for quarterbacks, especially coming out in the draft, you think about the situation at LSU, you look at your supporting cast that was around you, they make your job very easy. Malik Neighbors and the rest of the receiving corps. At number two, based on, again, I'm not Mel Kiper, but they talk about Caleb Williams going first.

Obviously, he'll be going to the Bears. The commanders are number two. And I'm thinking, you number two, period. Look at the supporting cast that you have in D.C. They got some dogs over there. What?

John Dotson? McLaren? McLaren. McLaren? Man, listen, boy. Boy, you're going to be in heaven. You're going to be in heaven. And I think it's so imperative that you go to the right situation so you have your receiving

corps. Once you got a receiving corps and they're able to build around you and you can just be you, man, I'm not saying it's going to be a breeze, but I just know, I know the work you put in because it shows up on film. So the transition from college

to the NFL is going to be awesome. It's going to be awesome. Have you thought about the emotion that you could potentially feel when with the second pick or the third pick in the NFL draft? Second, second.

It's going to be second. Hey, Daniel. I don't know. You're going to cry. I don't know. I got to, man, you know, hopefully if I look at my mama, I know my mama is going to cry. My dad is probably going to cry too.

So I don't know. Maybe if I look at them, they might get me a little bit. Yeah. Nah, you're going to cry. You're going to cry. You're going to cry too. So I don't know. Maybe if I look at it, they might get me a little bit. Yeah. Nah, you going to cry. You going to cry. You going to be a meme. You going to be a meme. That's a lifetime, man.

That's unbelievable. Jayden, much success, man. Thank you for jumping on with us tonight. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Obviously, doing what we do, we're going to be paying very close attention to your career, to your family.

Congratulations. And, bro, much success be paying very close attention to your career. To your family, congratulations. And, bro, much success moving forward. I appreciate y'all. Jay, good to see you, boy. I love you, boy. Congratulations again, man. Jay Daniels, ladies and gentlemen. Awesome.

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Do you agree or disagree, Ocho? I mean, I understand what he's saying. I understand what he's saying. Obviously, that's a tough one there when you say the better athlete. I think both are very, very good dual-th threat quarterbacks. Obviously, Caleb being able to extend plays outside of the norm of the play call and what's called.

When it doesn't play out the way the X's and O's say it should play out, both of them are very good at extending plays, making plays with their arm and making plays with their legs. I think, obviously, Jaden Daniels having the edge, obviously with the speed and being a little bit more fast, a little bit more elusive as opposed to Caleb Williams, I understand what that scout or coach is saying.

Either way, I think it's a win-win either way you go based on the teams. I'm excited for Young Bull, man. I can't wait. I can't wait. I just want him to go to the right situation. You know how important that is.

I don't want a situation like I love Bryce Young. I love what he was able to do in Alabama. But not having the supporting cast or the type of caliber players around you as opposed to when you're in Alabama and you come to the NFL and now you look what you got to deal with. Now you starting from scratch. Right. So I'm hoping over in Carolina they do right by that young fella man and get him

the pieces he needs to succeed like he did in college. And also, if you're going, when you're getting picked that early, when you're getting picked that early, it can be very difficult. I just don't want to see that happen. But obviously, I look at the team. I look at the receivers, obviously, that were acquired by the Bears and what they have. And also the receiving court that they have over at the Commanders, who are picking that too. So either way it goes. I don't know how the draft is going to go, but I know he's going to be all right.

Yeah, I agree. I definitely think you need to go somewhere. Offensive line, you need somebody to protect you. Yeah, I agree. I definitely think you need to go somewhere. Offensive line, you need somebody to protect you. Yeah, man. Because you remember, you know, David Carr. He got sacked 76 times, and it ruined him. You remember that? Yeah, I do remember that.

I do remember that. Wasn't that the most sacks ever? Uh-huh. And you got that as a rookie. And they're talking about, well, man, why you flinching in the pocket? What the hell you mean? You mean why? Man, if you're going to hit me everywhere

except the bottom of my feet, and you're going to talk about I'm flinching or I'm seeing things. No, I'm not. Yeah. I think that mentally, mentally, especially at the quarterback position, that can be absolutely demoralizing.

Mm-hmm. Absolutely demoralizing. It can mess up with your head, especially with your confidence when, as a rookie coming in and getting just hit around like that, like a ping pong ball. Yeah. Nah.

Yeah, it's I like him, and I agree. You know what? That's one of the things. If I'm a scout, I got to know how much you love football. You got to love it. I mean, I mean, look,

I understand, but it's got to be a love. You got to have a burning desire. You know, you know, I like it, but I also like to do this. I like,

no, that's cool. I'm telling you, Ocho, you look at the guys that have success. Yeah. And watch how they talk about the game of football.

Your quarterbacks, your running backs, your wide receivers, your great defensive players, look how they talk about the game of football. Other than eating and breathing, that's how important it is to them. And it needs to be that. Now, obviously, as you

start to look and you see once brady got to a certain point but this was probably like the last three last three or four years of his career where all of a sudden he didn't come to oth he didn't he realized that damn damn v you seven i just i thought i had you a couple of months ago. Me and your mama just cutting the cord at the hospital and you this big. And Ben, I'm like, whoa, whoa. He started to realize that the time had passed him.

And that's what happens when you're a football player or you're a coach. You have kids one day, the next day you're like, honey, we got to go to graduation. He's graduating high school graduation you're graduating high school or she's graduating high school and you damn near missed everything yeah yeah you do it this sacrifice it's a it's a it's a huge sacrifice i think we talked about this earlier on one of the

shows and i talked about why i even started having kids again because i missed out on everything. Yeah. There, there, there is room for me to improve as a father based on times I missed when I was younger because I had the sacrifice. You know better too. I ate, I ate, slept, breathe and shit football. Yeah.

You have to. Off season. Like I didn't, I didn't even, my off season, I took maybe what? Three weeks, a month. Yeah. At best. That's it. So all my kids knew from me, Like I didn't even My off season I took maybe what Three weeks A month

Yeah At best That's it So all my kids knew For me From my standpoint Was just being there financially I mean obviously I was there

I was present But Unc I was so locked in Yeah You missed so much I missed a lot of stuff man I missed a lot of stuff So I really wanted to start over

So I could understand What it feels like To be a full-time father and do it right this time, the right way. And you see what he said? He talked about how he put that I want to win the Heisman. He said he

always wanted to win the Heisman. Now, over here, remember what we talked about last night? What are you willing to sacrifice? Price to get there. Right. Okay, you got that Heisman. Now, what's the goals for the NFL? What are you willing to sacrifice? Price. To get there. Right. Okay. You got that Heisman. Now, what's the goals for the NFL? Okay. You're going to get drafted. You don't have no choice where you go.

Right. You're telling, hey, you put yourself in position. You can go anywhere. It seems like Chicago is a foregone conclusion. Anything can happen, Ocho, but it seems like a foregone conclusion. They've settled on Caleb Williams. So now it looks like you're not going past three.

You're either going to the Commanders at two or you're going to the Patriots at three. You're not going any further than that. And I believe he's going to go two to the Commanders because why would I trade? Why would I trade? Why would I trade to get more draft capital in hopes of there's a quarterback coming out in the next three to four, two to three years that would give me the value that I got with Jaden Daniels. Right. So with that

being said, I believe I believe he goes to the command to the commanders at two. Now. What's your goals? Right now. What are you willing to sacrifice to get them? Because the greater the goal, the greater the sacrifice must be. Has to be. Yeah. Yeah. Do you see any, any, any chance the Raiders finding a way to get from 18 to two?

I don't know. 18 to two? They are 18, right? Pick 18? Or am I tripping? I don't know. I don't even know what pick they are. But is there any possible way? Huh? The Raiders. No, Ocho.

Huh? 13. Well, think about it. I think the 49ers were at 12 and moved to three. See, so it's possible. They gave up three first-rounders. That was three years ago. So what's it going right now?

Four first rounders? Three first rounders? Three second rounders? I mean, listen, the Raiders say, hey, listen, for Jayden Daniels, we'll give you three first round picks. I don't think the commanders are turning that down. Why? If you need a quarterback, why would I give you my oxygen?

Hold on. What did they say? When you're on the airplane, if the plane going down, what did they say? Put your oxygen mask on first before you assist somebody. So you mean to tell me you want me to help somebody out and I've died? Listen, that three first round picks, I understand. Ocho, I need a quarterback. Right.

I'm just. I want to see him a quarterback. Right. I'm just... When you're on spirit... Hey, I want to see him with the Raiders, that's all. Let me ask you a question. When you're on spirit, and they tell you to play, and they tell you about oxygen masks, what do they say?

Do they say assist somebody, or do they say put your mask on first before you assist somebody? Yeah, put your mask on first before you assist somebody. So, in other words, Washington needs a quarterback. But you know what, Raiders?

Since y'all gonna give me this great package, I'm gonna go ahead and help y'all. I will help y'all get back to the playoffs and get to the Super Bowl. I'm not doing that on y'all.

I got you. I got you. I just think, I'm trying to see, I'm trying to see Jaden throwing a Devontae Adams that's all that's all and that's all oh yeah for sure

but do you understand how long it's been the command I mean the commanders the old team that's a proud franchise they got three Super Bowl wins yeah yeah and now they've gotten you know they've gotten the old regime

out. They want to win. Win, yeah. They're not giving that. They're not giving that pickup. Alright. Because guess what? I give that pickup. You think Buffalo kicking themselves?

Because guess what? Buffalo had Patrick Mahomes. Could have had Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now people in Buffalo looking at, even though they got Josh Allen.

Yeah. Ain't no slouch now. But they say, hold on. That man got three Super Bowls in four years though. Five years. He got two MVPs. Yeah. And you mess around and you trade them to the Raiders.

And his man mess around and go win Super Bowls. Right. Oh, Josh Harris is going to find out. First of all, in order to do a trade like that, your owner has to sign off on it. I don't believe the owner will sign. I don't believe Josh Harris will sign off on it. No.

Hell no. Probably not. I mean, obviously, Josh Harris, understanding how important it is to have a quarterback before you can do anything else. You can't build nothing until you get a goddamn quarterback. And Jaden Daniels sitting at number two is your franchise quarterback for the next decade plus. Exactly. I can tell you that. Exactly.

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