Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: NBA’s Kawhi INVESTIGATION to DRAG Into 2027?! + Cade Cunningham NEEDS HELP + Tony Allen Calls LeBron OVERRATED Defender + DC Young Fly JOINS Nightcap

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

Iso Joe Johnson and Josh Smith react to the NBA’s investigation into Kawhi Leonard, Cade Cunningham needs help, Tony Allen calls LeBron overrated defender and DC Young Fly joins Nightcap! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI...0:00 - Viral IG mishap 00:00 - Introduction6:10 - Kawhi Investigation might go into 202719:36 - Cade Cunningham tried recruiting stars this summer27:43 - Tony Allen calls Lebron and overrated defender 32:56 - DC Young Fly Joins (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to reach a thousand blocks. Hey, smooth A. My guy, what it do? I so, Joe. What's up, baby? What's good, baby? How you doing? Oh, man, slow motion.

You know how it is. You know how it is. Hey, look. Check this out. I talked to a little birdie today, man. And, uh, T. Lou. Okay. All right. All right.

I talk to T-Loo. I said, T-Loo, I say, T-Loo. I say, T-Loo, what, uh, I say, what's smooth like, bro, after he won that dunk contest and, uh, And 05. Yeah, man, we could, he said, yeah, man, we couldn't tell smooth nothing here. Yeah.

He won't, he said we couldn't tell smooth nothing. He said, smooth doing what he wants to around here, huh? Oh, man, hey, man, home is home, man. Home is what a heart is, ain't it? Home is what a heart is. Hey, I got a question, no, real talk. Yeah, in that dunk contest, did you already have your dunks pre-made, bro? You were just going off the, going off the wind, one.

with it. No, I had them pre-made for sure. And I had worked on them and had little routines and stuff like that before all that, before the dunk contest happened. So look, so like what you were doing? Like after practice working on dunks and stuff like that? Yeah, after practice working on it, then I went to the, you know, the equipment manager and them. I used to go to Wiley and Pete back there in the back and mess with them trying to find little ideas and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, check this out. With these thousands, the youngest to reach a thousand blocks. Hey, real talk.

I know it's been a lot going on about LeBron, but real talk, you got, you outdule them when they come to them chase down blocks, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah, I was Mr. Chase Down before. Oh, yes. I tried to get it. Yes, uh, hey, look, I remember, I remember all used to tell her, hey, man, just cut him out. Just cut him out. Just cut him off.

Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm a block to you. You're going to get it. get a rebound. Yeah, hey, hey. Just, just make them, make them gather a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, make them gather. Hey, you slap that thing out of the glass, we're gone, we off to the race.

Yeah, we got to, we, hey, look, on the way down the court for an easy bucket for you. You hear me? Yeah, yeah, hey, tell me something, what you on, what you, what you on over the Indica, Sativa, hybrid, what you? Hey, man, a little indica, yeah, what's saying? Oh, okay, okay, okay.

You know, I like to chill, I like that stuff. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. I understand, man. I understand, you know, we played an NBA for quite some time, bro. It's a lot of way and tail on your body smooth. I got a lot of aches and pains over here, bro. Yeah, you still plan at a high level too.

Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hell, you happy for Steve? Can I be happy for us too, you know what I mean? Yes, sir. Yeah, hey, that's all I'm saying, you know. Yeah, man. You know what it is. Hey, look, check this out, smooth. We got this Kauai investigation that can go on with the NBA into 2007 per batch to homes.

They said the NBA is investigating into whether the L.A. clippers circumvented the salary cap to pay Kauai Lina say it could drag in the 20207 if the parties don't agree on the findings or any proposed settlements that involves punishing the team. You know, so what they're saying is they're basically trying to see, bro, did the clip was paid his man under the table, bro? Is that the same thing they did? What, would that Milwaukee situation with the, well, you know, but hold up, hold on. You know, we had a, we had a teammate in Joe Smith, you know, who played for men who played with us in Atlanta, but he played for the Minnesota Timber was at the time. Yeah.

You know, he was getting that under the table. Yeah, I mean. So my thing is because it was such a war in between, okay, it's Kuwaiting on to the Lakers. Is he going to go to the Lakers or is he going to go to the Clippers? That's all I'm saying. I ain't saying they did, but this investigation obviously. This is allegedly, right? All this stuff is allegedly. This is alleged, but I'm giving you the, yeah, I mean.

Yeah, I'm giving you the information. Yeah, yeah, I'm just giving you the information because see what you got to understand is the raptors are refusing. to complete the trade for Kauai because they are unwilling to take on the wrist. The potential NBA, the penalties that's going to come from the NBA, this is per Ramona Shelburne. You know what I mean? She's an NBA insider. So, you know, this got some weight to it, bro. Got some legit.

Okay, okay. It's legit a little bit. Okay. Yeah, because I guess, think about it. If they find something and let's say, you know, they do find some under the table stuff. the Raptors don't want to be on the hook for that if they trade for him and they bring him to him now he gets suspended for 50 games you know what I'm saying so who gets penalized the player gets penalized for that or well they stay they try to find out bro hopefully they don't huh the player the organization gets fine I mean who gets penalized I don't know I just think if they find something to where Kaua was getting paid under the table think you get penalized who Who you think she gets penalized? Well, they're going to penalize both.

They're going to penalize the player and they're going to penalize the organization. That's just what it is. But I'm just saying, I'm saying if you look at it, from a standpoint like, okay, we're in a bidding war to try to get Kuwaiter join our squad with the Lakers, who was our rival. I mean, hell, I'm not saying,

brother, they paid the man under the table. What I'm saying is, it's a good damn chance. That's a, You know what I'm there? Yeah, you got to think about it, bro. You know. It's some legitimate sources. Huh?

There's some legitimate sources for sure. Yeah, well, you know, so, you know, in the rapists say they ain't willing to take their risk, bro. They ain't willing to complete this trade. You know, he's got to trade this move. Yeah, I've seen that. So that's why the trade wasn't completed. I was trying to figure out why they resent the trade back. Is that why?

Yeah, that's why. this investigation as far as trying to figure out, obviously if he was getting money when nobody was getting paid. So we don't know, man. We don't know. Steve Baumers is expected to aggressively fight the NBA legally if penalties are Levine against him

and Kaua Lennon in the investigation, meaning, you know, obviously. That's why I like this, bombing, man. He's probably one of the top owners of the NBA, man. he probably got the most money, smooth. Yeah, yeah. If I keep it to be. Like, okay, so does that make you, you know, the best owner?

You one of the best owners? When I went to Houston, when I went to Houston, that was probably like one of my best stints, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was like ownership and how they handle the players and how they let you be yourself, you know what I'm saying? So I don't know if he was one of the highest pay, but he was a really good owner, though.

Was he? Yeah, he was good, man. It's different, bro. You know, I've been around some, I've had some good owners. I thought we had some good owners here in, uh, uh, uh, uh, am. We're in Atlanta? Yeah, in Atlanta. What's my man name?

It was a lot of them, boy. Yeah, about seven of them. Yeah, but, but, but, but you know, when owners are involved like that, bro, it does give a sense of, uh, at least, you know, you give a damn to some degree. know what I mean yeah absolutely you know so I don't never see that a bad thing I know you look we see Mark Cuban who was a you know what I mean who's always

been on the sidelines who's always been involved so yeah that's the bad thing at the end of the day smooth this ain't this ain't how they make their money bro this is just a side gig for them yeah yeah yeah so you know they had that money before they had that money before the investment of the basketball team for sure oh yeah Oh, yeah. Ramona, uh, Shelburne on Kaua Lina trade sizer. He said, I can see a world in which Kaua Lina is back on the clippers if this trade doesn't go through.

And the clippers, quite frankly, they ain't mad at that smooth. They're saying they'll walk him and his ass back. We're hoping on. I know they would. I know they would. They got a decent team over there, bro. Yeah, they do. They do.

How would that look for Kauai, though? I mean, obviously he'll be back to focal point of the offense, but how would that look for him? You know what I'm saying? Like him coming back to a team that was possibly trying to trade him. Man, listen. It's part of the business, bro.

Yeah, he just came off statistically smooth, you know, one of his best years as a professional. You know what I'm saying? He played well. Yeah, I think, I think Kauai is a guy who you probably could put in any system. You could probably put him in any system. system, bro, and he'll be able to fit in or stand out. Like, I just feel like, you know,

he doesn't, it's not all about athleticism with him. Obviously, he stays in great condition, as you can see. But if Toronto would have got him or if this trade is still able to go through, it changed the trajectory for the Raptors as far as them contend him, bro. I mean, if they get him, it just changed i think if you if you uh uh brandon ingram yeah you probably on the cuss like damn you know you know what i mean because they're sending you to the clippers and now you probably got to go back you feel what i'm there yeah right and he probably was excited about that trade you're saying for him to get an opportunity you know going out there that at l.a you know a little bit you know you know he'll look a bit more hollywood now he got that you know he would he went

They build them a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They build them a little something out there with the clippers, man. I like the youth that they got on their team. So, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens with this, with this whole or idea.

They say they're trying to get it, they're trying to get it done before the season start. What you think? You think they're going to get this resolved? Um, like as far as, as far as they're making a decision on the decision on the, the possible like suspensions and stuff like that or or if you don't find that and I'm just saying man we got a trade that's pending because but you got to do though you got to also consider and put in the fact that he you know Steve balman telling me he won't he's gonna fight he's gonna fight the NBA with that with that prolonged the process I don't know bro maybe but I think if both

parties can come together and come to some agreement I mean what they probably looking for this movie we keeping it a being bro they ain't I don't find it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, fake. So I don't know, bro. I don't know, bro. I don't know.

I hope they get this thing square away though. Right. Yes, sir. What else up? What you been on today, bro? Man, just chilling, man. What Josh got back in town today. He was out there in LA with Rondo.

Putting their work in. Putting their work in. Yeah. working with his uncle and his, you know, his family, you know, he's family, you know, he family for sure. Yeah. Couldn't that work him and then being able to see, I think he was working out with Chris Johnson. I was able to see Brian and Tyresemackie up there, so he got a little excited about that.

Yeah. I asked him to take a picture. But Atlanta and him, he kind of, you know, he was like, no, I ain't take one. He does. And I said, I said, brave, you don't take you a picture, bro, that's not playing. Like, you know what I mean? He was excited way. He was like, yeah.

Hey, man. It takes it to another level, bro. You know, when you be around greatness like that. And you see what it looked like. You see how hard cats work. And at a young age, you take on that challenge, you embrace it. And you go out there and put their grind in, put their work in. Come on, man.

The good thing about it, they was working out. They worked out right before them. So he was able to kind of like get to watch, you know, watch some of the workout and how they work, how professionals work. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that was good for him to be able to check out. Hey, that's what's up, man? You got to, hey, keep younger head straight, bro, keep him going.

Because he got, you know he's going to have the talent, bro. You know, the grind, that sold separately, homie. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, because he got the height now. He's like six, seven, six, seven and a half. Yeah. You grind. You know, he got the height.

So it's all about, you know, putting out of, keep unlocking. Keep unlocking Pandora's box, man. Keep on liking. Keep unlocking some skills, you know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey, hey, you got to master the basics. You know what I mean?

You master the basics, bro. The rest of come. Like, do it till you can. You know, we go skip steps over here, man. Yes, sir. Okay. So many, there's so many players out here today that got agents. I'm trying to figure out why you got them.

What's you doing? Hey, hey, hey, they try to hit it. Hey, they try to hit a lick early, bro. I'm trying to hit a lick with you. You're not the Gerbert baby. You're not the little baby on the diaper bag, on the diaper box. You ain't, the folks I ain't sponsoring you like that. They got to recuperate their money too now.

You know what I mean? Hey, man, if you ain't up there at the top one, two, or five, you need to go and let that go, man. Let that aging stuff go, man. It's different, bro. It's different because, hey, you being dead for you, for you a little piece of chain. I'm trying to stay because they got the,

they got the advantage right now. don't have no advantage, no leverage as a high school trying to get an agent. You don't, bro, but that's the game now smooth. They're getting them early, bro, you know, before they can really peak. You know, and then that's when they, that's when they try to hit you with the man. I was lawyer. I was down with you. You know what I'm saying?

They hit you out of how the feedbackers hit you in high school. You thought you wasn't nothing in high school. Meanwhile, you top five in the country. Do you folks can see the few. I'm not, Joe, you know what I'm saying? Hey, hey. You're looking right in front of us. Hey, you ain't lying, bro.

You know what I mean? You look at a step ahead. Them folks looking 10 years ahead. Oh, okay. I can see the potential of what you possibly could be. You know what I said? Yeah, yeah. So let me tap in real early before this thing peaked.

Yes, sir. You know what I mean? You feel bad if you try to leave me. Hell of, man. Come on, bro. I can get you trip you. Yeah, I'm saying. I'll just put you in you

out of it, you know, I'm just putting the world these kids to be trying to, you know, I don't try to get, I want you try to get putting, putting the mix, the blender. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, hold on. Check this out, man. Freaky, hey, chat. Y'all hear me out, man.

Freaky Ocho just wrote in the chat. He says, Joe, they got some new rear-end plugs. They go in the dark to spice things up at home. Oh, that boy. Come on, chat. Damn. Dang. I mean, check.

That's Ocho Cinco, brother. He just. Ocho. Cho. Smooth. I ain't never seen nobody. Him and Aunt. Them some wild boys, man. They must have got them new hip replacements, man.

They couldn't up. You got to swim it down, slow it down. And we'll take some views off of it. All that stuff. You know what I said? Yeah. Yeah. I know, up guys.

With a chill out and slow it down. Hey, listen, man. listen listen listen you know them boys over the top i feel like god dropped me here brother keep them dudes same man i had to keep them boys out of control man them boy wow you the glue man you the glue hey man i say man listen boys ain't nothing but god somebody got slow these boy down they can't be stopped though oh cho just too much yeah he he way too much he way too much that's their florida in them man the miami boys different man oh we a little different man Some in the quarter down there, twin.

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you get your podcasts. Kay Cunningham was very much involved in attempting to recruit players like Austin Reeves, Kevin Durant, Kauai Lennon, Karee Irvin. This is this is from an insider from Detroit.

Vince Goodwell, smooth. Josh, will will Detroit become a premier free agent destiny in the KE era? Man, um,

We got a wait and see, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying for the free agents out there, man, what, I'm saying? What Detroit got the alpha, bro? I mean, you know, like, K take about what? How many shots K take a game? I don't know. He probably, I mean, 30, 30, 30, 30 shots. Probably close.

Yeah, see. Probably close. Maybe cut that in half. He can get some action. Get some action from who? What do you mean? Anybody going to want to come then. No, yeah.

Yeah, well, the thing is, you got to understand, smooth. But he cold, though. No, he cold, but that's what hurt him in the postseason, bro. Yeah, just, you know, not having enough scoring. Yeah, and him having to take all them shots. Yeah, he had him having to take all them shots, and then you got Jalen Duren who, you know, he wasn't the 20 and 10 Bs, you know,

in the postseason that he was in the regular season. You know what I mean? So they had to rely on guys. Yeah, Tobias, Tobias had some good games. No. Lavert had some good games too. It was some games where Lavert was going off, and they just, you know, they subbed them out for somebody else that they play, you know, valuable minutes in the regular season.

And it kind of, you know, it kind of hurt them, heard them in one, a couple of those games. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I thought Tobias was huge in the postseason. Lost in Cleveland, right? Huh? Didn't they, did they lose the Cleveland? Yeah, they lost the Cleveland and seven.

Yeah, yeah. But they needed some more scoring, bro. It was too much on K. And I think if you get guy, if you could get, if you could have got, you know, a guy like Austin Reeves, hell even Kevin Durant. But I'm going to be honest, my favorite who I wish Detroit could get him,

possibly, possibly it could still happen. It's Kyrieb, bro. Mm. Like, I, A, A, smooth. I think it, huh? Think it could happen. Yeah, I think it's possible. I just think he's at,

he was at missing piece bro who could have took over games it wouldn't even one seven with Cleveland if Kyrie was in Detroit you feel me yeah like you know all he needed they give up though I mean I don't know you if you did sure you had to figure it out but if you can make that happen let's say okay for instance let's just say Dallas don't get off to a great start and they they willing to get off Kyrie I ain't saying it's gonna happen maybe he's staying Dallas maybe it works out right but I just I just love the way he plays I love his patience. I love this poise to the game,

his understanding of the game on how to, you know, get to his spots, get a bucket, but not only that, but be effective and make plays and make guys around them better. And I think in a revenge store too, man, I've seen him work out. Well, I went to Top 100 camp, and he was just giving the campers a lesson on, you know, how he works out and how he prepares and stuff like that.

Man, just looking at them as, you know, knowing the game and the basketball player, You know, he's coming back with a vengeance this year, I think. Hey, you know what? Something to prove, man. Hey, it's funny you say that, bro, because when I sit back and think about it, it's a few cast moves who coming into this season with revenge, bro. You know, I mean, I mean, you look at Kyrie, who you just mentioned.

You look at Brian, you look at J.B. You know, these guys who have been traded. I think John is Sue, man. I think y'all, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yonahna's going to come back on some, on demon time. Oh, man, he going to be downhill demon. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. He ain't going to be messing around. They, hey, I think the thing with the heat, though, they got to put a couple more, you know, good veteran pieces around him as far as keeping the floor space. Make sure you got some good shooting. But I think he's going to attract so much attention, bro. Because you already know you can't give him no crease or

no crack he'd get in there it's a rap you feel me thanks so yeah it's it's gonna be a few guys bro who're gonna be on this this revenge tour and i mean you look at i know they've been the headlines but we've been talking about philly but it ain't just brine bruce it's jb to me you know what i mean smooth think about it uh i like him a lot man uh people like people really don't give him the credit that he deserves like just i look at i look at uh what people do when Star players are down and they say, oh, what you're going to do without this, this player and that player? And they still, they still like one or two in the Eastern Conference.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Top three with pretty much the whole year with, with, with J.B. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He really supporting casting. He was, he looked like one of the best players in the league.

Look like, hell he was. What do you mean? Man, I'm talking like the two men. Like what position they consider him at? Like two, three. You probably like the best two guard in the league. That's what I'm saying. Bro.

Probably like the best two guard for sure. When you talk about locking up, smooth, cause and havoc, hey, you know a dude got great endurance, bro. He picking you a full- They give him second team. Huh? They give him second team. They get him second team.

He's going to second team all-N-B-A. Did they do that to them? You know what? I'm sure he made the all-N-B-A. I'm not sure what team he made, though. I'm not sure. but with his productivity bro i just think you said with the endurance though picking up and you got to get a bucket on the other end you like they depending on you to get a bucket

both sides bro they depend hey not only they depending on you to get a bucket hell they depending on you to get a stop on lucca dontage you're something like that i think hey bro i think philly i know we've been talking about this for quite some time bro but i think philly going to be nice I think Philly going to be nice. It's just going to be how they rotate the, they got to find the right rotation. You know what I mean? Yeah, you have to figure that out early.

Yeah, they got to figure out the rotations. They got to get that down. Yeah, it probably, you know, it probably takes them adjusting. Preseason will be cool, but you really won't get the full effect. You know, when the season first start, they might get off to, I ain't going to, don't say rocket start you know probably play 500 basketball for a little while before they kind of

pull away and streak some wins together but i think they got the total team everybody talking about man can't none of them shoot they ain't shh man please watch out of them boy lock in i'm telling you yeah hey it's not shot takers though what you say it's shot makers not shot takers it ain't about it ain't about being a shooter oh yeah shooters still got a night shots too yeah you go and Hey, because see, they're going to carry that confident in that, in that swag, bro, to, to, to be effective. I'm saying on both end, I think all of them. But it's going to, hey, the NBA going to be fun coming up, bro.

It's going to be a sight to see. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, thanks. Hey, hey, check this out. You know, your boy went viral, man. He's going viral, Tony Allen. Oh, okay. He says, he says LeBron is an overrated defender.

never guarded KD in his prime and O KC. I mean. Hey, hey, chat, chat. Let's take a listen. Let's take a listen to TA. No, but just think about it. Anything you put LeBron on, we can make any scenario. When they play, let's just say O'KC.

Do you think LeBron starting out the game on KD to risk picking up two fouls? No, he's going to stick sepulotia. So you got 41. One minute is a stick in Cervolotion. Game get tight, late down and stretching the last two, three minutes. You get a chase down block here and now. Then now you get the win. Now you just are first team by defense.

I disagree. Because Tia, I disagree. I love that. They just chase down blocks. I disagree. I disagree. Me on the other hand. Hey, it's all right, T.A.

We don't need you to come through on this one. You can't let him get his average. And he ended up with 40. I get a few more episodes. of that, I'm gonna be in the G league. You see what I'm saying? That was my title. That was my title.

That's what I had to do. That's how I played 14 years. It wasn't because I had a cold crossover. If you saw me smoke all the layups. Yep. But get what, I bring you not getting your average to the table every night. Let's read some comments.

Yeah. Oh, I've been getting them too. Come on, I didn't bring it. Disagrant. I wasn't hating, man. I was just saying he's not a better defendant. Smooth. What did you think about,

what you think about what T.A said, I'm saying. Like, what was the question? So listen, so here it is. So look, I ain't saying. You're a better defender than LeBron or what was the, what was the question? Nah, he's saying he's saying Brian ain't no lockdown defender. He's saying that, you know, when games start off, Brian, it ain't like Brian Garding,

Katie, for the whole game. It may put somebody else. He may put, they may put Bron on Cephalotia, so he don't pick up two files early. But then in the last seconds of the game in the fourth quarter, Brun get a chase down block or something he get a stop. He's saying that ain't like, you know, that ain't first team. That ain't like, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm.

What you think, bro? I got snubbed a lot of times on the defensive team, so I don't know, man. Yo, hey, hey, but I think, I think got snubbed a whole lot. Yeah, you did, bro. But, uh, did he have a guard? Did he, when we played, when we played it, who guarded you? Well, you know, uh, he never, to start the games off, he never guarded me.

But smooth, that's kind of understood, bro. That's understood. That's understood because we can't. I can't. Yeah. I mean, he's making sense out of, he's making sense out of it. You know what I'm saying? Bro.

When I was a rookie smooth, and I'm playing with Antoine Walker and Paul Pierce, Paul Pierce third in the league and scoring at 27, 28 a game, right. He's the starting three. I'm the starting two. Listen, we're playing a game. as T-Mack, Vince Carter, Ray Allen.

I got all these dudes for the first three quarters, bro, that's what it was. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what it was. Yeah. That was me, too, though. You know, you know, that was me.

I had to, you know, I had to guard pretty much every position that was, that was cold. So, I mean, I get what he's saying. I get what he's saying. But that doesn't mean that he's not a great defender, though. You know what I mean? I'm saying. That means that he just,

that means that he has more value than a person just playing defense, respect. You know what I'm saying? Like, we can, we can, we can, we can bank on you. Like, it's okay for you to file out, but we can't, we, this, this dude can't file out.

Right, right. Not LeBron James, you get what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But, but, but, but, in, in, in, in TA's defense, I understand what you're saying, because there are times when you start off the game, hell, you don't got no choice.

When we played against the Miami-Heed and DeWay, I ain't got no choice. Me and D-Wa, got to guard each other the whole damn game. You know what I'm saying? That's just what it was. So I see what T.A. saying, but I think LeBron is above-average defender, bro. He, I mean, smooth.

He, 2008, 2009, he finished second defensive player of the year behind the White Howard. 2012, 2013, he finished second behind Mark Gassau. I think this really would have come down too smooth. You want me to keep it real with T.A. and Brian, you know, obviously T.A. playing with the Celtics. You know what I'm saying? That little rivalry they had against Cleveland when he was in Brown, even in Miami. But on top of that, maybe even some of the things that Bronn may have said about Memphis.

You know how T.A. T.A. and Zibo out of the mud. They, hey, them boys, Memphis till they D-I-E, you're me? Yeah, facts. Big fact. You know what I'm saying? So it can be stemming from a lot of different things, bro. You never know.

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That gas ain't going to hate talking like that, man. Bam, black. Huh? What do you do? Oh, there you go. Hey, what's happening? What's having it? Hey, my boy, D.C.

Y'all fly. What's up, baby? Hey, what you got going, man? Man, listen. Hey, we're a boy, smooth, Josh Smith. You feel we're going to keep back. First of all, man, with some real great ATL legends. Hello.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hello. Yes, sir. Hey, we appreciate you. No, it's good, man. Sooner they call me. Sooner they call me.

said, well, I said, well, that's nothing. Hey, we appreciate you. We appreciate your time, bro. We appreciate it. Hey, what you got going, man? What's new? Would you guys need movies, comedy show? What you got going?

Man, we working right now. I'm going back on the tour. You dig what I'm saying. You dig what I'm crazy. You got some short verticals for to pop off. You dig what I'm saying. So you got some more music for to pop off. You dig what I'm saying?

Hey, man, I'm on that. Oh, G. Hey, you don't never stop working, do you, man? No, I don't even know how to do that. I'm really trying to fit. I'm trying to put sleeping in my schedule. Hey, hey, man, I love seeing you on Wilder now. I love seeing what you doing with 85 Southview, Carlos Chico, bro.

Yes, sir. Hey, you boys some real fools over there, man. I appreciate it. We appreciate it. I appreciate it. Man, we've been watching y'all, man, since we were niggas. And just, you know what I mean? It's just an honor just.

every time I see you at the arena, you feel what I'm saying? I always show love because I remember the time when I used to come down there and watch y'all. I remember the time I used to come down there and watch you, you feel what I'm saying? So, Jeff, I'm eating, knowing y'all, and I'm going to still be real.

Your dunk content is still the best one. You hear me? Sir, yeah, sir. Yeah, sir. Appreciate that. I remember. I remember I took my daughter, brother, to the Holtz game, smooth.

It was about a year, year and a half ago. And I walk in there. I see D.C. Y'all Fly, T.I. Two-chain. I said, damn, did y'all get out the same car? Okay. Hey, listen. Welcome to Atlanta, man.

Welcome to Atlanta, actually. Hey, hey, listen. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey, what's doing the life? So, Rick, I got a question for y'all. Like, what's up? Now that you see how the city is embracing the hawks, bro.

Do you remember a time when people was coming to come see the house? Like, has there ever been a time where folk were really was just pulling up? Like, I remember probably when Dominique were playing. but like it was an error one niggas one i hear i air they were kind of pulling up for the other what name it's hey hey after about i ain't gonna lie to you dc after it took us about three years i got here the first two year well they were brutal i ain't gonna lie yeah they were they were brutal after that you picked up when you came first of jac when you came it gave super excitement like we were yeah yeah hey hey they're one thing that's thanks

So, bitch. Hey, that's one thing I love about it. Growing up, man, you know, man, the town went in the Hawks, but Nate Daniel, but. And the great part about it, we want to chill for them. Like, we want to chill. You feel what I'm saying? So just seeing the energy now, like in the arena, bro, it's like, hell yeah. Man, hey, hey, hey, hey, look, that's how I always, that's how I always envisioned it, bro.

You know, when I came here, like, the city jumping too hard, brus the capital of energy. It's like you have so many guys coming out. You know what I mean? Right Like excellent man. You like excellence man. It's wide open. It's wide open for somebody come over and take over. Oh yeah. So speaking of that DC what you think about the Hawks, bro, what our chances look like considering the fact now we know the close out game. Hey, the close out game were ugly. We know that we we lead that long. We need to come all take. Bye. Hey, hey, hey, hey, but listen, but listen, look how the Knicks out. did every damn body else.

Okay, but look, I do say that we gave the next day energy, they umph. Yeah. And to kick ass. Yeah. Ever since them two wins, we got, them boy turned up and did not stop. They did.

You did what I'm saying? I'm gonna be real, bro. I like the big, I feel like we need a real solid. I want to say Bitman because we got some Bitman. I only want to say we need a Dennis Rock. show. Yeah, you're saying, yeah, we need somebody can wipe their glass.

We need somebody to go get them 30-th-th chance shots because the Hawks, we good off our first-chance shot. After that, if we miss. It's a rap. It's a rap. Hey, listen, I think the hawks

in good hands, bro, I think it's going to be a... I think we're super good now. Oh, yeah, it's going to be even better. Hey, look, look, look. Hey, look, look, when we're going to be... When me and you was there, you know, we involved, me, you two chains and T.I. Two chains already. He'd been had, you know, his season tickets.

Right. We talked about, hey, hey, we're talking about season tickets, right, smooth. So look. Yeah, after we got to talking about season tickets, I look up, D.C. got him a damn job in that. He's like, hey, I'm good. I'm trying to cut them season tickets in a half, babe, bud. Hey.

Hey. Oh, my God. Hey, holy up. Hey, I say, hey, D.C., hey, I feel you know, bro. Hey, you know what? The city, you know, the city love you, brother. They embrace you, you know what I mean? Especially when you do the little halftime things, when you interview people.

Yes, sir. If I'm keeping it real, D.C., when we did that interview about, that was last season. When we did the interview at the Hawks, everything kind of changed, bro. People started hitting me out there as far as trying to get, trying to do different things. Because I hadn't done a lot of interviews and things like that. You know what I mean? Right, right. I want to appreciate you, bro.

I want appreciate you for that opportunity, my dude. Oh, man, they love, man. And, you know, that's what our platforms is for, bro. You feel me? To just cross-brand and show another side of people. You feel what I'm saying? Like, we ain't got to go talk to the other side, you feel? And we can go talk to our people.

And when we had these type of conversation, bro, like, you also got to understand. People don't be understanding that we really tight. We really cool. So when they see us kicking in, when they see us having these conversations and they get to hear our intellect, They're like, oh, that's who these folks really is. Okay.

Oh, it made me respect their game way more, you feel? So, any time, OG, anytime. Oh, yeah, yeah, man. You know what? Me and Smooth might have to pull up over there on you and Carlos and Chico, man. You all be over. Hey, man, got to go 85, bud. What did you say, smooth?

Got to go 85, bud. Yeah. That's nothing. When you're ready? Hey, and my boy, now. over there too. My boy, yeah,

that's my guy right there. That's my dog's real. That's a poddy potter right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I know you were telling me about that knee, man, you get that knee fix. Hey, man, the meniscus is all the way good. We back in the gym. We back playing golf. My boy, bowl. Oh, yeah. What's your high?

What you say? What's my high? Yeah. You know, you catch me on a good day, DC. I bow like a, I bow like a 220 or something, two, two. That cool. That's my right. What about you?

You like that, like that? Oh, I got two seventy-nine. Oh, man. Come on, bro. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get that three hundred, man. That's my goal. Oh, man, you, hey, hey, smooth, he won them do.

You don't want to go bowling with him, bro. I got six bowling, man. Oh, he got six bowling, bowling. Oh, he, okay. Hey, hold on. Hold on. So you in bowling leagues and all that? It depends on how the lane is.

I got to adjust, man. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. I like the whole school. It gets real critical, man. Hey, hey, listen, I know all us pretty much grew up in church. I think DC you're what, youngest of seven? Youngest, uh, you're eight.

Youngest eight. Yeah, you grew up in church, bro? Yes, sir. All day, every day. Oh, my dad was 61 when he had me, so, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, Chico called me a great brother. Don't play with me. You said, what?

Listen, Chico called me a grandbrother. Oh, my. Oh, shit. Oh, man. You feel me? So, just having that spiritual, you know what I'm saying? Foundation, bro, it kind of kept me in line, you feel, me? Anytime that, you know, I felt like, you know, I felt.

like I was being teared or I ain't feel like doing something. But I stopped. Spirit I always had me, you know what I said, kept me in check. Because we're weak. The flesh is weak, my boy. Hello. Like, smooth.

You grew up in church, bro? Hopefully, man. Like, he did. Like, he did. Thank God for basketball. My mom was trying to put my tall ass in the choir. I was like, man. Tell her my mom, you're going to have to go and whoop me, man.

I can't be a fifth. Six, five, catching the Holy Ghost. I can't do that, man. You got a chill. You got a chill. I didn't like sitting in the back, man. You know, I just back there laughing. You know, you're fucking out.

Kishing the whole list goes, they be in there for the tabby. They see y'all. Man. Hey, the same way over here, bro. I grew up Baptist. Yes, sir. I never forget, boy. Hey.

Come done. Me. Rib and pain. You hear me? Smooth. D.C., I ain't going to lie to you. You know, my grandma made me getting the choir. That's just what it was.

You know what I mean? You had to join the festival. He didn't do nothing until you was a deacon. I'm like, I'm 11. What am I planning on my team? Man, I'm in here training to be a deacon. Hey, hey, thanks. Hey, boy.

Hey, until you've been a deacon and you had to get up in that choir and you had to get up there on Sunday on East of Sunday and say this. Yeah, sir. Boy, you ain't done nothing. Don't talk to me about it because that's the hardest thing I had to do in life. I'm glad what I turned I couldn't do it, but you were strong

you were strong, you was a strong one for that one Joe Hey, bud, I had to get my ass whooped I was cool with the whooping man Did y'all ever play for the church league? Huh? Did y'all ever play for the church league? Yeah, I did. I did, yeah, no custody.

Hey, listen, you know, when we were young when we were coming up, bro, any league that we could play and say, it ain't like today, you know, all these kids got trainers and all that, you know what I mean? You see everybody got a trainer now. All we did was who. So if the church league was jumping, we were playing in the church league.

On Sunday, they hooping up at the court. We're going to play at the court with the fella. You know what I mean? Anywhere they was hooping, that's how we got better, D.C. I'm going to be real. I thought I was y'all in my head, bro. I really, I ain't even going to lie. If I put, I do whatever I put my mind to.

But I realize when I go see y'all play, I'm like, no, nigger. That was not what you were supposed to be doing. Y'all is great. Like, y'all got a, it's a certain physique of an NBA player with, like, bro, I ain't get no gross for it. I was like 19. Yeah. What do you mean?

I was five-fold until I was like 19. I'm six one. I'm six-one. Smooth. Yeah. When did you know you really had a chance, bro, to make it to the league? I'm saying, like, that was the plan the entire time. I was just trying to play basketball.

You know what I mean? I'm saying even like in junior high and all that? I didn't know. I had no idea. You know what I'm saying? Then now you get older, you be like, okay, I see why my dad did this. Like, he quit his job when I was in high school. He was at home a little more.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, he knew. Like, now I know, like, man, shit, I got to stay close to this little, you know, this little niggas. So I'm like, shit, okay, cool. I got it. I ain't understanding into, like, my,

senior in high school. My dad gave me a little talk, you know what I'm saying? Because I still was thinking about going to college. I was talking about going to Indiana and all that. He was like, bro, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Hey, hey. Hey, hey, I love Pete.

Boy, hey, we might have to get old school on. We had to get Pete on it. Hey, that's real Atlanta right there, Tee. I don't know if you remember that, Josh Dan, bro. Hey. He played, he from Albany, but you know, we was over there, Ben Hill. You know what I'm saying? He played for Ben Hill.

Benzby, that's why. Oh, that west side, that west side? Yes, sir, for sure. Yeah, that why I started playing, you know what I'm saying, basketball at over there at Ben Hill. That's why you got good, good. Oh, Jwan. Yeah, yeah, man, started with, where it really,

yeah, with the real pros happening. Yeah, he's going to be here with it real. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's how you learn how to play, bro. You know how you put the little, the court together, the, they had that court. Yes.

They had that back in the day. You know what I'm talking about? Hey, hey, but that's how you learn, bro, when we were kids, bro.

We just played. You know, we just played the game. You see, what you played coming up, bro? You know what? I played baseball all way to the end.

That's how I know I'm real good at that. Oh, I played everything. Baseball, football, basketball. But baseball, for show,

for show. I know. I talk a lot of shit about everything else. But baseball for sure. I can back that up. all day every day. Yeah. Slo, you played in the other sports?

No, straight basketball. I tried to throw the helmet on my dad. I was not playing. Ooh, he wasn't going for it. Builder school, I was like, I want to play football. He's like, but hell no. So I was like, he went on the road because he drove trucks. I had slid over there to my mama.

Mom got there signed me up. So when he came home, when he came home, he seen the pads on the ground where he gave it to me, boy, because of schoolbound. No. He's like, it ain't. Brown, and ain't buy your dumb ass no cleats. You go to my wife, call

and talk to him. I was hot, boy. He was hot, man. He was not. I was out there slipping and sliding. I was like, man. I was like, man, I ain't playing no more, man. Oh, yeah, I already know he didn't play. Hey, hey, hey, speaking of football, speaking of football, what's up? Y'all, Falcons fans,

what's up? Absolutely. Okay, sir. Keep it a bean. Keep it a bean. I got to take a drink. I'm a pain free, bro. I'm a pain freak. Oh, he's going to tell her life he got to take a drink.

I need to take me a drink, too, brother. What's up? What's going on, smooth? We pain freaks, bro. I mean, I'm in Atlanta everything, Braves. That's what I'm saying. I'm in a lot of everything. They owe me, man.

Yeah, they owe me too. They owe me a couple of times. They owe me from that situation. What? They owe me from that too. We ain't even recovered from that. No, no, I'm talking Even if, no, that was the one, brother.

He had the city of so much on fire, brother. Oh, my God. I don't think people, listen to me. I ain't seen a lot of people play. I ain't never seen it like that. I ain't really get a chance to see Jordan play. I saw AI at the end. Bro, we didn't even have TV like that,

but my phone wasn't even watching shit, you feel me? We weren't going to no games, bro. I actually got a chance to see it. I used to hear stories. I used to, we used to see. down and watch this nigga as a family. I'm in high school. I'm in high school.

It was the greatest thing we ever had, bro. Yeah. Man, yeah. I ain't seen nothing like it. Yeah. I know. You feel me? Hey, listen.

Super Bowl, we needed that. Man, listen. I didn't got over. I didn't go. I ain't got over. I ain't got over. I ain't got over.

I ain't got over. I remember exactly where I was, boy. That was crazy, bro. I remember. Amen. Let me break. Let me tell you Let me break it down for you.

I was talking so much shit. Let me tell you something. This is why I'm so mad, bro, because them nigger could have walked my ass in there, bro. Them nigger were like, fall in deep. I'm in there saying. Boy, you know me. It's 80.

Yeah, yeah. It's all that. And we're playing the Patriot. I'm going to all that. Bro, it's three of 283. I'm talking so much cash money. I'm like, know what I'm gonna go take a smoke break.

I'm chilling. We won this, nigga. By third quarter, my energy change. By fourth quarter, I remember this shit like yesterday could, nigga. We don't transfer it's five to go watch the game. Now I'm at a whole other nigga house,

but I'm glued to the TV, though, yeah. I'm like, we down. It's four minutes now. Listen, when he talked to that, when he talked the ball on his hands, Hell, man. Yeah. My heart started being fast.

Listen, because I knew something was up. I said, I know they're not about to do this shit. I know they're not about to do this. Man, don't folks scored again game. And the score was still 28. Those folk came all the way back from three points. All we had to do was score one to a down. And we stopped doing everything we were doing in the first quarter.

That's why I love the father. but y'all ripped my heart out my chair then. Oh, man. Hey, hey, y'all know. I know, man. Hey, I apologize, bro, because they built their Mercedes, that beautiful stadium right after that, thinking they were going to make it right back.

You know what I mean? I ain't trying to rub it in on y'all. I'm just saying, bro. I like going to the game. Hold on. What are you, though? Can I ask you? I'm a cowboy fan.

I ain't going to lie to y'all. I'm a cowboy fan. Hey, you're a cowboy fan. You're a cowboy fan. Listen, DC, hey, I'm from, I'm from Little Rock, bro, so you know, hey, man. Oh my God. The closest thing, two of the Dallas, bro. I've been a cowboy fan.

I was born in it, you know what I was in? I was saying. I was born in a man, so listen, I don't know if we played a Falcon this year, but if we do, me, you and smoke, you know, put a little something on it, you know. Oh, absolutely. Oh, you know, I don't mind. Oh, you're talking about on the Falcons? Yeah, you're going to buy?

No, you're going to bet. We got to get our quarterback situation. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, me. Oh, my God. Hold on. You don't think they're going to.

Oh, man. Jay, why you keep doing this? Why y'all keep doing that? Hold on. They have the same conversation every year. Do you think we know? No. Hold up.

I'm going to tell you when I'm telling you what we're going to have to do is, first of all, we got to stop. I don't know what's our quarterback status now. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Previous. Oh, yes, sir. We are giving guaranteed money to injured players

who was already injured coming off the injury list. Let me tell you something. We ain't had. a quarterback to finish a season. So let that sink in. And he got guaranteed money. So who money is that? I'm not going to keep doing that.

I'm going to go out of these hoax. And y'all going to have to tell me about a late. Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. Speaking of that, hey, we got a video I want to show, man. You jumped out with the trampoline at, uh, come on, baby. Bounce. Come on,

baby. Do it right there, but this is the real. Hold on. Hey, y'all. Check D.C. Yip. Yee.

E. E. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, D.C., tell the truth. It's a lot harder

than what people think, though, ain't it? Hey, people don't understand. First of all, you, you, you, it's a lot of pressure. It's pressure. People watch it. People act like they ain't watching,

but they watch it. You're almost 15, 20 feet away from the gold, bro. You hear me? You ain't no, so when them bubby doing the flips, you gotta respect that, you feel me. I missed the first one. I had the time.

But once I got it, oh, I was up. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hold on. You know, that little gym back there would a little tumbler be practicing that back there? Yeah. Bro, you know, that was our practice facility when I played for the hall.

That's what we practiced at every day. Back in the back where the tumblers be at? That's what we used to practice at every day, D.C. Dang, so y'all didn't have no practice facility? That's what we had, bro. That's what we had. So listen. The entryway?

Brough. Y'all was not practicing in the back entrance, bro. D.C. We were hosting, D.C. I know hell. D.C. We were hosting training camp there, bro. That's what we were doing everything.

Every day we had to go there to go to practice, bro. Through the entrance, y'all would stay right there and practice. So you couldn't. Lock on to the left. The practice is to the right. That little entryway thing to the right. You don't know that little practice flow. It's a little practice flow.

down a practice court. It's got two. Hell. Yeah, that one I'm talking about. Oh, dang. But now they don't build the whole facility. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. They got a real country club now, partner.

Yeah, they juiced up now. They got it, they got a real country club. It's a little different now. Yeah, it juiced up now. Hey, expectations are a lot different. You know what I mean? That's why we be on them because, listen, we want child boy to be successful because look at all the things we provided.

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You feel? I think we're going to be great this year. No, we're going to be bussy, bro. We should, hey, we should come into the season, bro. Oh, can I ask you all the question? Because y'all played the game.

What's that? Because y'all played the damn game. Do you be real now? How y'all feel about these three partners? Oh, how the game is played today? It's wild, bro. Because when I was coming up, you shoot that three,

you get in that game. You yacking up. They should be on my head. That's why I'm like, I don't know. I only take three. I shot one three and nigger that didn't get in no more to see.

That's what I'm trying to tell these things. It's hard out here. Y'all got to do that. Hey, hold on. Smooth. What did you say you did? I said, I'll take about three a game. They used to boo the shit out of me

for a half of it. I'm like, shit. these these these these katee shoot they take it eight nine threes a game. I'm like, yeah. But you know, you know, but it's like, I mean, it's, it's crazy because a lot of these teams are falling into analytics, you know what I'm saying? Right.

Okay, so you, it's like, it's like, what if, an analytic is a what if, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you shoot these threes, like, okay, if I shoot eight threes, they're banking on a person that make, three or four, but it's like, what if I can't shoot? Right, and what if you don't get sick in the third chance rebound?

Or if I'm not even really working on shooting threes, but you're encouraging me to shoot. Right, right, right. We're really not making a play for real. Everybody's standing it to three point line. Like, it's a rotation pass. Like, we're looking at rotation ball. I want to see more kids getting dunked on, man.

That's what I want to see. What a thing. Y'all got to understand, man, the game has changed, bro. It's changed drastically, meaning smooth, when we first came, came in, you play with two traditional bigs, a power four and a center. And it wasn't a whole lot of your power four shooting threes at that time.

And here, none of your centers were shooting. So you're probably one of the only hybrids in the game at that time. You got to shoot Wildness who'll come in and Boston move. Yeah. You got to receive you wireless who'll come in to Boston move. Yeah. So we don't make exceptions though. Them exceptions.

Yeah, it ain't, it, they don't even make them like that no more, fellas. because look, guess what? You know, back then, bro, when you were 6, 5, 6 in high school, they probably going to put you under the basket. 6.8, you're going to be under the basket. Hey, now, if you're 6, 8, 6, 9, you're working on your guard skill. You ain't got no back to the basket game. You ain't got no post game.

You know what I mean? But you see the ones that still work on it, how effective and how good they look, how dominant they look like, Nicole, you know, and Joel and Pete. Oh, no, listen. The great ones, see, to, to, win the game, it's always going to be within between the lines, meaning like the three-pointer and the mid-a.

What we call the mid-rary. That's what I'm saying. I think, I think, okay, so he kind of saved the game a little bit because they didn't win a championship based off the three-pointers. Right? Nah. They shot a lot of mid-range. They shot a lot of mid-range.

What's called like that two-nine the Knicks was they were going to that basket. Yeah, they were getting to the championship. They was going off that fat boys, man. Yeah, they was. They was coming off that glass. Hey, hey, now. Fax. Those boys were attacking.

Fax. Hey, Jalen Brunson was too much, bro. He had a hell of a run. I ain't going to live with him. That boy, OG did too, though, twin. Yeah, but OG, O.G. Not his body. He was thin out of his body, bro.

08. Oh, Sam type. I'm like, you keep that for another three, four years. He's a play on again. Hey, look, but hold up, though. D.C., think about it. Smooth. Think about this.

O.G played great against us. Hell, he didn't even play in in Philly series. They were saving them. He didn't play. I think he got hurt. I think he got hurt. But I'm saying for the Knicks,

I think everything went right for him, you know, in this postseason, but they had a hell of a run. It was on fire, man. You know, you know what I'm so. They hit the playoffs that was that much on fire in my life, though. But you know, but you know what it showed too, though? Like, I hope these young players is watching and they really, like, looking at game

and, like, looking at them. It shows, like, what being a dog would achieve. Like, if you think about it, San Antonio really was supposed to win. Okay? They lost themselves because now you got pressure.

Free throws on line. You're missing important shots. You up by 30. You still lose. Hey, man, you can't do nothing but blame yourself. Default just kept playing. They helped hustling.

And that's what you're going to do. You're going to outbeat everybody if you do that. Hey, kudos to the Knicks, bro. but I know, boy, they pissed the Spurs off, and I'm telling y'all, them boy coming back, they're going to come back swinging. You think they're coming back swinging, D.C. I'm saying because, you guys...

I see them about 70, 70-plus games this year. You say what? I think the Spurr's going to win by 70-plus games this year. I think they're going to be on something, too. Basketball season probably got all the sports beat right now, man. I'm just saying. Hey, we're cooking, we cooking, we're cooking now. Yeah.

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