Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: NCAA CBB Bracket selections + Bengals pay Ja'Marr Chase & Tee Higgins
Episode Date: March 17, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Men's and Women's NCAA College Basketball Tournament bracket selections and react to the Cincinnati Bengals' contract extensions wi...th Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins.06:14 - Show start08:30 - Men’s March Madness Bracket Selections49:30 - Women’s March Madness Bracket Selection56:55 - Bengals pay Ja'Marr Chase & Tee Higgins1:03:16 - Women’s March Madness Bracket Selection (cont.)(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho Selection Sunday is here.
Oh, yeah.
The UNC Tar Heels made the field as a number 11 seed.
Whew!
God heard a lot of prayers in the South region, despite winning all of one game against quad one competition.
Right.
The tournament berth helps Hubert Davis avoid second tournament absence in three
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total teams in the tournament.
Ocho,
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session to get
Carolina in.
Right.
It would be the night of Congress or something from God,
because I can't explain how they were able to make the field.
Hey, do you think?
Do you think?
Is it a possibility?
The reason that they are in is the fact that they have their athletic director being part of the selection committee or that has nothing to do with it.
I'm just curious.
Well, I mean, hey, he's only one vote.
How the hell you overlook the inequities
and you look at their more qualified teams?
There are teams that beat Carolina
that didn't make the tournament.
And I understand what the Tar Heels are.
They're one of the blue bloods.
You look at Carolina, you look at Duke,
you look at Kansas.
Right.
UConn.
Kentucky.
Right.
There are five or six schools that you can pencil in.
Same thing in football.
Right.
You look at Alabama or USC or Ohio State or Michigan, things like that, and you get it.
But I can't.
And everybody knows I'm a Tar Heel fan.
Right.
I go way, way back.
I go back before Michael Jordan got there when they lost in 81.
Right.
To Indiana with Isaiah Thomas.
I know you don't remember, Ocho, but that was actually, they played that game on the day the assassination attempt on Reagan.
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And they thought about postponing it.
And they didn't.
You were like, I'm trying to think.
You're probably four years old, so I know you don't remember.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
What do you mean?
I was there.
I know what you're talking about.
I was there.
I remember exactly what happened.
Now, listen, this is what I want people, you and also you, to understand and the people in the chat to understand.
When it comes to tournaments like this, think about college football.
When it comes to the selecting process,
let's understand the economical
and business side of things.
The money side.
Okay?
Now you say there are other teams
that are deserving of being in the tournament.
Now when it comes to bringing in
the money and the revenue,
are the other teams that you feel
are qualified other than North Carolina, will they be able to bring in the revenue the same way North Carolina will as well?
Let's understand that aspect of things when it comes to picking what teams are going to play.
What team, what fans are going to show up?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I mean, Tar Heels are one of the blue bloods.
You look at the pedigree, you look at the coaches that coached there. You look at the players that came out of there.
But you know what?
And I get that to a degree.
But this is not a lifetime achievement.
There will be a time that people get lifetime achievement awards.
You see them have the Vanguard Awards.
Or you have their Lifetime Achievement Award.
The Oscar Lifetime Achievement.
Okay.
But this is not now.
Right now, this is an update. This is what
have you done for me lately. This is
a resume. I'm looking at your resume
for 2024, 2025.
And it's not up to par. You didn't
update it. And guess what? Your references
are no good here.
Because the references that I want you to see
is did you beat Duke? Did you
beat Kansas? Did you beat a UConn?
Did you beat some of the powerhouse teams that got there?
You got one win.
Right.
All of these teams that we call quad,
now they call them quad one.
Right.
You got one team,
you got one win.
I can't justify that.
And I'm a Tar Heel fan.
And I've been a Tar Heel fan since 1981.
But I can't,
I can't wrap my arms around this.
I can't say,
oh,
because you're a blue blood.
Right. Coach Smith and Michael Jordan, James Worthen, Vince Carter, and all these guys. I can't wrap my arms around this. I can't say, oh, because you're a blue blood.
And Coach Smith and Michael Jordan and James Worthen, Vince Carter,
and all these guys, they got nothing to do with it right now.
Michael Jordan is not playing right now.
Vince Carter is not playing right now.
James Worthen and Coach, rest his soul, Coach Smith is not coaching right now.
That ain't got nothing to do with right now.
Right now, I do not believe they forget deserving.
I don't believe they've earned the right to be in the tournament.
That's just me.
You're right.
Listen, you're right.
But when it comes to the tournament, you know, just like our brother down in Dallas with the star on the helmet.
Yeah.
You know what the bottom line is.
Yeah.
We know what the bottom line is. Now, when you're a fan of the game, those who watch the game of college basketball or any sport at the collegiate level, the bottom line always remains the same.
And it always will.
And this shows you why that remains the most important thing.
Put North Carolina in there, they understand what it does for them from an advantageous standpoint when it comes to making as much revenue as possible as long as North Carolina is in that tournament.
Yeah.
Everything you said,
their resume,
they shouldn't be there.
It hasn't been updated in a very long time,
but because of who they are and what they've done historically,
being rich in history,
that's why they're in.
I don't agree.
I agree with you.
And you're a North Carolina fan.
There are people in the chat that probably agree with you as well
I mean who wouldn't even a blind man
Can see there's no reason they should be there
But
That money
Money talks huh
It talks and it's going to walk every single time
Right
And you know
That's the south region you look at the, Duke, even though we're a flag,
without him being in there, they still were able to pull it through.
I think they're deserving of the seed that they got.
They got number eight, Baylor, in that division, Mississippi State,
in the second round, potentially facing number four, Arizona, Oregon,
to decide the Elite Eight.
Alabama's at the bottom.
If Flag comes back, look, this is why people love March Madness, Ocho.
Yeah.
Because it's one game.
And the further you go into the game and you haven't separated yourself,
the more confidence the underdog or the lower seed starts to get confident.
And they're like, hold on, wait a minute.
We're still in this game.
Yeah.
We got the lead.
That pressure starts to mount on the favorite.
And the underdog, the lower seed, starts to get more and more confident.
That's why you get the upsets.
That's why we love March Madness so much.
Because most of the time, like, if these teams play, if Duke play a team, say somebody knocks off Duke,
if you're asking somebody to beat a Duke four out of seven times,
it's probably not going to happen.
But for one night, we've seen NC State knock off that legendary Houston scene.
We've seen Duke knock off UNLV in 1990 when they were undefeated
and just blew them out the previous year.
We've seen things like that happen before.
Who else?
Oh, Villanova in 85 when they shocked Georgetown after they had just won the
preseason.
You get that, and we love that because you know what?
We got a small team.
Man, first of all, this team would never even schedule us, let alone a chance
to beat them.
Uh-oh. We got them.
We got them on the rope. You get a
1-16, you get a 2-15,
or you get a whatever the matchup may be,
and you get it, Ocho,
and the fans go
crazy. That's why they call it
March Madness.
Because it's maddening on what's
transpired.
That's the East Region, Ocho, and the
Midwest. You got the Houston Cougars
and you got the bottom.
You got the bottom. You got Tennessee.
Finish second in the SEC. You got Kentucky also
in there. You got the Georgia Bulldogs.
I mean, considering that you got four teams from the
SEC and you only got four regions,
obviously you're going to get a lot of overlap.
So basically, you're going to probably get three, at least three teams from that conference in every region.
And in this situation, you got Tennessee, you got Kentucky, you got Texas, you got Georgia.
So you got four teams, one, two, three, four.
Yeah, you got four teams from the Southeastern Conference in the Midwest region,
led by the Houston Cougars.
And in the West, Florida headlined that division, and you got St. John's.
Man, kudos.
Go out to Rick Pitino.
Because all I know is when Rick goes somewhere, they're going to go to the tournament.
I don't care what they were the previous year.
Every time.
Every time.
And listen, I know the SEC has been playing
phenomenal basketball all season long.
They play very well to date,
but I have St. John's winning this.
The whole thing?
What?
I got St. John's winning this thing.
Listen, I'm not a gambler
man, but if I was,
if I was and I was to put money on a tournament,
if I was to make a bracket, you know I can
tell you who won't be in that bracket?
Who's in that trophy?
It's going to be St. John.
Is there anybody in the chat
want to make a friendly wager or
friendly bet under $100?
We could do so.
Rick Pitino don't play no games?
No, he can coach.
I mean, he's Louisville.
He went to Kentucky.
I remember him at Providence.
NBA, he didn't have the success in the NBA that he had in college.
But you look at the teams that he's led to college,
Iona, Providence, Kentucky, St. John's, Louisville.
I think it's been about five or six teams that he's taken to the tournament.
And they go deep.
Providence went to the Final Four when he had Billy Donovan.
Obviously, he won it at Kentucky.
If I'm not mistaken, I think that was 96 with Antoine Walker.
Right.
I think maybe—I don't know if Monster Mash was on that team,
but I know Antoine Walker was on that team.
And we see him, I think he won it at Louisville.
When I was at CBS, I think that was the year.
So that had to be like 2010, early teens, 2010, somewhere around there.
But he can flat-out coach Ocho.
He can just flat-out coach.
He can get the best out of players.
And you look at St. John's, I think they got a big booster.
He's the founder of Body Armor.
And he says, whatever you need.
I got you.
I got you.
And that's kind of what you need to have.
You need to have that backing to go out and get those top players.
Because, hey, if I'm not getting playing time at one place, Ocho, guess what?
I'm going to hop in that portal.
What y'all got for your boy?
I'm going to holler at you later.
What you got for your boy, Ocho?
And sometimes when I think about it too,
you know,
sometimes I think that could be humbling too for players.
Okay.
When you can't get on the court at a certain place,
you know,
I could be humbling that.
You think you're as good as you are here.
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some guys, I mean,
obviously,
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Some guys were getting money even before NIL.
Oh, yeah.
But what it did,
what it did, Ocho, is that I had
to wait.
I had to wait. Now,
guys are really good. Now, hey, bro, they're going
to get a couple hundred thousand. Now, I don't know if they're
making the money like football players.
No, no, no, no, no.
Unless you go to Duke
or Carolina or something like that,
a program that the basketball program is probably one of the chief moneymakers.
Now, Georgia, obviously, you know, you got Georgia and Florida and, you know, Alabama and things like that.
Yeah.
Kentucky is a basketball school.
So, but when you look at a couple of hundred thousand dollars, when, you know, your mom or grandma, you come from, you know, project housing or somewhat of a broken home.
And it gives you an opportunity to get some money to get them out of that situation.
Bro.
Yeah, take it a long way.
I mean, for the most part.
Now, some kids like, I remember when Coach Morrison,
my brother's coach in South Carolina, he asked my brother.
My brother was an All-American his junior year, had over 1,100 yards,
broke their school record, had an unbelievable season,
finished top five, top six in the Heisman voting.
And he tried to encourage my brother to go pro.
He says, I think going pro would really help your family situation.
My brother told him, say, hey, Coach, we've been poor.
Another year won't hurt.
My brother really enjoyed college. Coach, we've been poor. Another year won't hurt. Hey. Another year.
My brother really enjoyed college.
He's like, look, everybody's going to be fine.
Hey, we lived in that house.
My grandmother had been in that house for 30-plus years.
Another year, we're going to cost us anything.
Ain't going to do no harm, huh?
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
And he was right.
He was right.
And for us, that's the way we looked at it.
And I think the thing is, for some people, money ain't the end-all, be-all.
For some, you try to move as fast as you possibly can because you don't know what tomorrow holds.
And some of these kids, like, you know what?
Hey, I need to get this money.
I want to make sure my mom, my grandmother,
my dad, whatever the case may be,
is in a better situation. And some kids are like,
hey. But I think in today's
game, Ocho,
like when you were,
when I was younger and you, probably
like the, say,
before 2003
and 4,
when guys stayed all four years.
And I think now it's hard to get behind it because, you know, I'm watching.
I'm like, guys, I really don't.
Other than Cooper Flagg, I couldn't name five college basketball players.
Right.
I couldn't because they leave after their freshman year if they're really good.
Tim Jordan stayed three years.
James Washington stayed three years.
Guys stayed.
Ralph Sampson stayed all four years.
Tim Duncan stayed four years.
And so you got an opportunity to know the player.
Right.
Look at Duke, Christian Layton and Grant Hill and Bobby Hurley.
All those guys
normally stayed.
Right.
Georgetown,
before Allen Iverson,
nobody went one and done
at Georgetown.
He was the first.
Yeah.
Those guys stayed.
Pat Ewing stayed.
And so you got an opportunity
to like really know the guy.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, you think that's hurting
the development of players?
Leaving for the NBA a little too early when they're really not ready?
Unless you are a bona fide superstar.
Unless you're Kyrie Irving or Zion Williamson.
You think they're leaving a little too early,
knowing that they're not ready for the next level?
Or you're not a difference maker that can actually change the dynamic of a franchise.
Can I ask you a question?
Talk to me.
You go to college, and somebody says, you know what, let's just say you're a finance major.
Yes, sir.
And here come Neuberger Berman or Morgan Stanley or what's that big,
there's this big, some big financial institution.
Say, you know what?
We got a quarter of a million for you at the job right now.
You're going to say, nah, I don't think I'm ready.
Somebody offer you that kind of money, whether you're ready,
you're probably going to take it.
Now, sometimes people are like, no, I'm not ready.
I'm going to go back to school.
But for more times than not, you're the first overall pick.
You're going to be a lottery pick.
You're going to go get that money because why are you going to school? Right.
You're going to school. College is to
help you get a degree so you can
go make money. When somebody
wants to speed that process up, Ocho,
who am I to fight you? You're right.
Who am I to fight you?
You just want to speed the process up
of giving me $20 million. Right.
No, I ain't fighting you.
I'm sorry.
I just can't.
I just can't.
I'm not going to fight you.
Plus, you see the mega contracts?
Somebody about to get $400 million.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Did you hear what you just said?
You see those contracts?
Mega, mega contracts.
You know how good you have to be to be able to get those contracts.
I can't get them in college.
Even if I am great, let's just say for the sake of
argument, I'm great. Can I get that in college?
No. So I got to speed the
process up getting to the NFL.
Okay. I'm with you.
I'm with you. I'm with you when you're right. I got to speed that up
to get to the NBA. Because all
I'm doing, the longer I stay in college,
is the longer I delay that opportunity to get that kind of money. That's the doing, the longer I stay in college, is the longer I delay
that opportunity
to get that kind of money.
See, but that's the thing.
To get that kind of money,
you already know
the type of players
that are going to get that money
that are in college.
Those are the ones
that can be one and the same.
You saw Pat Mahomes in college.
Did you think he was going
to be Pat Mahomes
what you see right now?
When he was at Texas Tech?
No, you didn't.
No.
Remember Joe Burrow?
Joe Burrow couldn't even
get on the field
at Ohio State. Joe Burrow was a third or couldn't even get on the field at Ohio State.
Joe Burrow was a third or fourth round pick his junior year.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
I got you.
It's hard to really tell.
Sometimes you can see it, Ocho.
Yeah.
And you say, like Peyton Manning.
You look at Peyton Manning, you're like, boy, it's hard as hell.
But there have been other guys that you thought they can't miss,
and they miss like heck.
But I'm
just staying within the context of basketball,
right? Especially college basketball.
Their players, listen,
when you saw Zion Williamson,
you knew what you was getting. When you saw
Kyrie Irving at Duke,
you knew what you was getting.
I'm sure
there's some other players that I can't name right now off the top of my head. Yes. You know, and I'm sure there's some other players
that I can't name right now off the top of my head.
When you saw them play, and they were one and done,
it was like, man, he finna be that boy.
Right.
He finna be that boy.
You know, if, ands, or buts about it.
And the thing is, it's just so hard to,
because you're seeing guys that were okay at the collegiate level,
be it basketball or football, be just okay.
And they come in and they kill it.
I mean, you see guys like, oh, this guy can't miss.
Oh, he's going to be bonafide.
And you're like, bro, what happened?
Yeah, it's different.
And so the opportunity presents itself, Ocho, is like when the opportunity presents itself because you're going to school to get a degree so you can make money.
Right.
Somebody wants to speed my process up, Ocho.
I'm not denying it.
Now, I can drive, Ocho.
You can drive from Miami to L.A., but Delta want to speed your process up in which you get there.
Who are you to fight them?
Nah, I don't want to get there.
I don't want to get there in five hours.
I want to get there in four days.
Yes, sir.
No, no, I don't.
I don't work like that.
Yeah.
So that's just, for me, that's just the way I look at it.
Like I said, the collegiate game, I think, look,
the women, because they're forced to stay.
You know them.
You saw Kayla Clark for four years.
You see these women.
You're going to see Juju.
You're going to see Paige Beckers.
You're going to see Hannah Hidalgo.
You saw Maya Moore.
You saw Diana Taurasi.
You saw Candace Parker.
You saw Shemekia Hoseclaw.
You saw these women where the guys went in the boom.
Kevin Durant, gone.
Damn, Texas?
Damn, I thought y'all had something.
Boom.
You saw the guy, gone.
Boom.
And so now, the guys in college, if you're really good, if a guy's really good, he gone after one.
Oh, yeah.
Juju Watkins could have went to the WNBA last year, but unfortunately she can't go.
Paige Becker should have been.
Paige Becker was freshman of the year.
Was the player of the year or freshman of the year?
Right.
Cooper Flagg is about to be freshman of the year.
Cooper Flagg ain't coming back.
He ain't coming back, dude.
He not.
No matter how much, oh, I's, oh, I might come back.
I'm having such a great time.
No.
Diggity.
That's it.
He out of there, huh?
He out of there.
Yeah.
Could be foolish not to.
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
If you're the first overall pick this year, how much higher can you go?
Yeah.
You can't go higher than the number one pick on Choday.
Yeah.
So what am I coming back for?
Yeah.
He's nice, man.
He's really nice.
Speaking of flag, what is the extent of his injury?
And how long do you think he'll be out?
He stepped on, he jumped up for a rebound and came down on somebody's ankle.
And you know how that is.
Yeah.
That could be, I mean, he didn't play.
I'm sure they're doing everything they can.
They're resting it.
They're icing it.
They got compression on it.
They're keeping it elevated.
Right.
But who knows?
He might be able to play.
They might try to squeeze by.
I mean, they should be able to.
Hold on.
Let me see. Let me see.
They should be able to beat American or Mount St. Mary's.
They probably should be able to get past
Mississippi State or Baylor.
Hopefully they can go
maybe to the second week.
Don't have to play them until they get
something like that.
It's a funny thing about
Mars Madness.
As good as they are,
ain't no telling what's going to happen when they play some of these smaller schools
you don't
ain't no telling
what's going to happen
because it's just one game
I ain't got nothing to lose
I ain't got no pressure
on me Ocho
I'm supposed to lose
you're supposed to win
right
I'm supposed to lose
so I can throw
cautious to the wind
I can shoot as many
threes as I want
I can play
I can play
whatever kind of
I can play
you know zone
I can play a 1-3-1 I can play a 2-1-2 I can play whatever kind of defense. I can play zone. I can play a 1-3-1.
I can play a 2-1-2. I can do whatever.
Yes, sir.
Because I'm not supposed to beat you.
You're supposed to beat
me. Me, yeah. And the longer
the game goes, and there's really
no separation between the two teams,
the more confident the underdog gets.
Oh, yeah.
I'm excited. I'm excited the underdog get. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So. I'm excited.
Yeah.
I'm excited, too.
Like I said, the cat's out of the bag now.
You know, once Kentucky started having these one-and-dones, you know, you got Cat, you got A.D., you got all these guys one-and-done.
You got the Tyler Heroes.
You got the Jamal Murds.
You got the Books.
You got, you know, you got all the Shea Gilders one-and-done.
And then you get the Dukes, one and done.
If I'm not mistaken, I think Elm Brand might have
been the first one and done in 99.
I think he might have been the first
one and done. He didn't go
to the Sixers first, did he? He went to
the Clippers, if I'm not mistaken. I mean,
Clippers first, yeah.
I think he might have been the first one and
done. So he kind of like started
that process of the one and dones at Duke.
And then obviously, you know, you have Kyrie and you have other guys that came after that.
But Leitner, think about Leitner stayed all the years.
Marty Hurley was there, Grant Hill was there.
All those guys.
And so, no, once Grant, I mean, once Elton, if I'm not mistaken,
I think he was the first one and done, just like Iverson was the first one
and done at Georgetown.
And it was, and it happens.
I mean, but we'll see.
Oh, yeah.
We'll see, Ocho.
So you got the SEC
set a tournament record
conference with 14 teams
in the field.
Yeah.
Number one, Auburn.
Number four, Texas A&M.
Number six, Mississippi State.
Mississippi,
University of Mississippi.
Mm-hmm.
One's in Starksville.
They're in the South.
Number two, Alabama.
No, Ole Miss, the Rebs.
Excuse me, the Rebels
are in the South. Number two, Alabama. Number eight, Miss, the Rebs, excuse me, the Rebels are in the South.
Number two, Alabama.
Number eight, Mississippi State.
They're in the East.
Number one, Florida.
Number six, Missouri.
Number eight, Oklahoma.
Number 10, Arkansas.
They're in the West.
Number two, Tennessee.
Number three, Kentucky.
Number nine, Georgia.
Number 11, Texas.
They're all in the Midwest.
After a bad regular season, the onus is on the SEC to deliver on the well-deserved respect
by sending multiple teams to the second weekend, potentially two or more, all the way to the Final Four.
Yeah, it's going to be real sad they don't get somebody all the way to the Final Four.
Yeah.
It's going to be real.
You got 14.
Oh, there's only 65.
Well, I think they got, what, two players, 65?
So you only got a handful. So basically, you sit a quarter
of the damn field.
It's going to be...
It's going to be sad, Ocho.
It's kind of like, Ocho, you got
in football,
let's just say for the sake of argument, you got like
four or five teams from the SEC. You only got a
12-team field. And you don't get nobody to play
for the national championship?
Yeah, it's going to be
bad.
I don't
have the dates right in front of me.
When does the tournament start exactly?
Next Thursday.
Next Thursday?
Are you going to any of the games if it's close to you?
No.
Mm-mm.
Go on.
Bro, I'm in eight cities in 10 days.
You think I want to get back on a plane and go see?
No, bro.
You like flying. You think I want to get back on a plane and go see? No, bro. You like flying.
You like traveling.
I don't.
I understand it's a part
of my job.
Right.
But if I got some
downtime,
I'm taking it.
Okay.
But I'm just saying
if I have tickets,
which I probably will have,
if I have tickets
to a good game,
would you accompany me
to a game?
We sit cross-eyed,
a little popcorn,
hot dogs, and no?
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to tell you,
I'm going to have to pass on that one.
That's messed up.
That's cold.
I just left, bro.
I was just in your neck of the woods.
You weren't even there.
You were always talking about, I'm in your neck of the woods.
But listen, you came to Miami
not letting me know you were coming to Miami because if you
were coming to Miami, I would have canceled the trip
with my kids at the DR and I would have stayed here
just so I could have came and supported you.
You know?
No matter of fact,
I could have been your mascot
with the La Portier bottle with the
costume on.
Yeah, you're laughing for real.
I need you to get a lounge and sell my product in your lounge laughing for real. I need you to get a
lounge and sell my
product in your lounge.
That's what I need you
to do.
You know what?
Now, that's a good
idea.
With the way things
are going right now,
me, me, I'm, you
know, I'm a cigar
lounge.
What do you think
about a cigar lounge?
Yes.
Yes.
85 place.
Yes.
And in order to come
in the 85 place, not
only do you have to
get a cigar, you have to first buy a bottle of La Portier.
I mean, it pairs well with cigars.
It pairs well with food.
It'd be interesting to see what some of your drinkers, what they think, what it pairs best with.
Something bold, you know.
You like a mild problem, something mild.
I mean, what do you like?
You like something mild?
You like something bold?
You like something flavorful?
Yeah.
I mean, for me, I like my cigar depending on if I've eaten or not.
If I've eaten already, I like it heavy.
Okay.
Heavy or spicy.
If I haven't eaten, I want something mild.
Okay.
No, nothing too strong.
But for me, and the bad thing I like about it is your La Portia, your, how you say it, Cognac?
Cognac.
God damn it.
Your Cognac is doing so well, it's to the point where I want to try it.
I continue, as long as it's been for me, listen, it's been 47 years. I have yet to have alcohol and consume it on a normal basis.
Now, we had the live show in Vegas.
It touched my tongue a little bit.
It touched my tongue a little bit, but I still have yet to drink.
And it's itching me as long as it's been.
I've still never had alcohol.
I'm wanting to get into it.
I'm wanting to get into wine.
I keep learning about white wines. I keep learning about white wines.
I'm learning about red wines.
I'm learning about different cognacs and stuff like that.
So I'm trying to hold off as long as I can
and not be a drinker.
And I think I'm going to be able to do it.
I think by the time I hit 50,
I'm going to start enjoying some liquor.
Yeah, we're doing really well. And that's thanks to everybody that's showing up.
Like I said, Marilyn, I want to take my hat off to you.
Even Connecticut, they showed up.
And I want to take my hat off to you, Connecticut.
We're about to get a distribution in Delaware.
In the next 60 to 90 days, we're about to be in NYC. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to coming back there and having signers and Delaware. In the next 60 to 90 days, we're about to be in NYC.
Yeah.
So I'm looking forward to coming back there and having signers and meeting some of the
people.
Obviously, we have the taste while you're there, so you can taste it before you buy
it or after you buy it.
And people, like I said, Ocho, people really love it.
And I'm glad that was the thought process that when we came up with this idea.
And we're a small batch cognac we get to control it uh we don't add anything additive no artificial
colors or uh ingredients um but i can't think i like that you got you got to tell your team we
got matter of fact i'm gonna be on the next, all the next stops you got.
Yeah.
Tell Ash to get me a Laporte costume and I'm going to put it on.
And you know the people be on the corner in LA with the company sign. Yeah, with the sign.
Spinning the sign.
Hey, why you sad?
I'm going to be right there.
I'm going to be right there spinning this side.
Yeah, we're going to get that thing jumping.
Yeah, but it's been great.
But I mean, look, here's the thing, Ochoa,
and I tell people this with any business, for me,
I understood that, you know, doing all my research
and what it takes to the spirits company
um and being a celeb because that's how they're gonna look at you you're a celebrity yes you're
getting into especially the spirits or something like that uh it's a process you gotta grind you
gotta do a lot of work because sometimes i think celebrities think they can just slap their name
on something and because of who they are it doesn't work like that work like that it really
it really doesn't and so I was very fortunate.
And this is like a downtime for me right now, Ocho, before we start the tour.
And so and I told him, I said, look, give me time.
If y'all are gracious enough to take on distribution of this product.
Right.
Once my season is over and I get past the Super Bowl, I will come to every little, I will come to where you guys need me to come.
They determine, now the distributors determine what stores I'm going to go in.
Now, there's a prerequisite.
You have to get X amount of cases.
But with that being said, they determine it.
Total Wines has been one of our biggest,
probably right now our biggest retailer.
They've been great from the jump. We started out in Nevada Ocho with Lee's Liquor.
They were amazing. We went to Houston. Specs, Miss Lindy, thank you again for the hospitality.
Everybody has been great. When I go into a GSM, which is a general sales meeting,
and look at those distributors in the eye and they see the passion in which I talk about this product.
They see, you know, I've done the research and the homework and went over there and to learn as much as I could.
Not only did I read about it, I've gone to the region. I'm going back again to understand what a VSOP is a very special old pale, something brewed between four and six years.
And,
you know,
you go,
you know,
you know,
an XO and an XXO.
And then you start getting to the specialty names and,
you know,
the process,
it has to originate the first two years in that region,
which is cognac.
Right.
And it has to go through a process.
Oh man.
But it's well worth it.
Like,
damn,
I feel like I know something.
And so when I show up and I talk to them, they're like, okay, yeah, he knows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's serious.
Yeah, he's serious about it.
He ain't no, hey, he ain't, somebody just gave, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So they want to see, like, yeah, Total Wines has been unbelievable.
Lee's Liquor, Specs, ABC.
We're about to have distribution.
We got it to have distribution.
We got it in Florida now.
Yeah.
I'm ready.
So I'll be back down.
I think the next time they're probably going to have me to come to the Orlando area.
So I'm extremely, extremely excited.
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Bracket makers were not kind to Michigan.
Michigan is the biggest loser in this year's field.
Also, the Wolverines are number five seed in the South,
despite beating Wisconsin for the Big Ten Championship.
Meanwhile, the Badgers are the three seed in the East.
Michigan also plays on Thursday in Denver, giving them a short turnaround time to recover from the ground of the Big Ten Tournament.
And the Wolverines will take on the number 12 UC San Diego,
which ended the regular season at number 35 in their ranking,
after going 30-4 and 4-2 against Quad 1 and Quad 2 competition.
Damn.
So, hey, here's your reward for winning the Big Ten.
Get your ass on the road on Thursday.
Yeah.
And play a top-tier opponent.
Look, at some point in time, whether it's early or late,
the further you go, the better the competition is going to get.
Every time.
That's just the way it works.
That's just the way it works.
It ain't going to be no, I mean, you might think someone is easy in the beginning,
but eventually it's going to, you know, you're going to get your comeuppance.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm ready.
That's all I know.
You ready?
Oh, shit.
St. John's earned the number two seed in the tournament.
Rick Pitino's second season as head coach.
This is now his 16th that Patino has coached,
has taken to the NCAA tournament.
He coached Boston University, Providence, Kentucky, Louisville,
Iona, and St. John's.
He had led a team, the 1996 Kentucky team,
and the 2013 Louisville team, which had to be vacated.
Man, stop vacating.
They won that title.
All that bull jive. He
largely found success after taking
over a program that was struggling before
his arrival. Because he's a coach. He's good.
Yeah, very. No matter
where he goes.
Yeah.
Look at Coach Saban.
Look at what he did, where he went.
Look at
with the LSU, they won the national championship.
He goes to Alabama, and he becomes the greatest college coach in history.
Same thing with Urban.
Urban with that Bowling Green.
Look at what he did at Bowling Green.
Look at what he did at Utah.
Look at what he did at Florida.
Look at what he did at Ohio State.
It's hard to argue that level of success.
When you go and the program elevates, national championships came to Florida.
Back to back.
Yeah.
Coach Saban, back to back.
They win in the SEC.
You know, they go into playing for the national championship damn near every year.
I mean, he won six,
but how many times? He lost to Clemson
twice in the national championship game.
He lost to Georgia in the championship game.
That's three times he lost.
He lost to Ohio State before he got
there once.
Hold on.
Who you got? You still
ain't mentioned. I said I got St. John winning the whole thing.
Who you got winning?
North Carolina is your team.
That's my team.
They ain't winning.
They not winning.
And I can't pick Duke.
I can't pick Duke.
Wait, wait, wait.
What you mean you can't pick Duke?
I can't pick Duke.
That's Burns' team.
We are not allowed to pick each other's team.
Okay, okay.
So you just don't pick Duke? I team. Okay. Okay. So you just.
I don't care.
Look here.
If everybody said we forfeited, I'm still taking somebody other than Duke.
Okay. I'm not taking Duke.
So if you had money in the tournament, you just basically, you put your money down the drain.
Whatever.
I ain't taking Duke.
Okay.
That ain't happening.
Okay.
Because.
That's. Hey. Because one year, one year, we used to pick brackets. And one year, I had the
Joker beat, and then he ended
up taking Carolina, in which
they won, and he beat me. So I came
out with like, no, you cannot take my team.
We cannot pick each other's team.
No more. Okay. I got you.
No. No. Hell no. So that's how that I got you. I got you. No, no, hell no.
So that's how that goes.
I'm not picking Duke.
Like I said, I've been a Carolina fan since 81 when they had Al Wood, Jimmy Black, James Worthy.
People don't remember that.
That goes way back.
They lost to Bobby Knight.
Isaiah Thomas was on that team.
He was the most outstanding player.
They had Wedman.
They had Rolando Turner, who ended up getting paralyzed shortly after he flipped his car,
and he ended up getting paralyzed.
So I've been a Carolina fan that long ago, 40 years.
I don't know why the Joker looked,
I think because, I think Grant Hill from Virginia.
He's Grant Hill from Virginia.
And so that's his team.
No, no, no, no.
I got you.
All right.
That's not happening.
Oh, Joe, now to the more exciting selection, the Women's March Madness Selection.
The UCLA Lady Bruins are the number one overall seed for the first time in program history.
Normally, they're known for softball, normally volleyball, Even beach volleyball, but not now.
Basketball.
Now, the new ladies of Westwood, the first 30-win season in program history.
They're 30-2.
Both losses, if I'm not mistaken, came to the USC Lady Trojans.
Yeah.
And it's their first number one ranking in the Associated Front.
The third time a team has held it for 12 consecutive weeks.
Corey Close's team, after losing in the Sweet 16 the past two seasons,
is seeking its first ever trip to the Final Four.
Stanford misses the tournament for the first time since 1987.
The Cardinals will entered the streak of
36 consecutive appearances.
Only Tennessee,
which has made the tournament
every year since the tournament began
in 1982, has had
a longer run.
Look,
I can't believe that Stanford didn't make it.
You know, the great Coach Tara Vanderveer,
she won two national championships when she had Jennifer Azey,
had a great team.
Obviously, we know what Coach Summity did.
Coach Summity, what this thing was all about.
She is a Mount Rushmore coach in women's college basketball.
She is the standard bearer, her and Coach Gino.
But the talent is spreading out now, Ocho.
Because before, everybody went to Tennessee.
Everybody went to UConn.
And that's why you got UConn
and Connecticut, damn, they're playing every year.
Now they started spreading out. They started going
to Baylor and they started going to
a couple of other teams.
Like, oh, damn.
Listen, just like football,
when it comes to NIL, I'm not saying NIL
is a reason, but the fact that the ladies are
willing to go other places
now, because I'm sure there are reasons behind
that. It evens the playing field
and it gets some of these other
teams in the tournaments and gets some
of these other schools
winning natties now for a chance.
South Carolina?
South Carolina, yeah.
We own the Lady Gamecocks. Coach Staley.
They have some... It started with Asia. Then they have a little Boston. 5th of July yeah on the Lady Gamecocks Coach Staley you know they got
they had some
you know
it started with Asia
yeah
then they have
Aaliyah Boston
and then they had
those women
Courtney
Cordova
who's most outstanding
player last year
you know
Coach Staley
when she was at Virginia
I think she went
she didn't win a national
championship
but she had her team there
every single year
in the Final Four.
After ending the fast food tournaments undefeated, the Lady Game caught the 30-3, which is still ultra elite.
Their losses, UCLA in November to UConn in Texas in February.
But they also lost the SEC regular season co-championship to Texas twice, including a league.
Ah.
They beat Texas.
Didn't the Lady Gamecocks beat Texas?
Oh.
What you said?
Hold on.
They also beat the SEC co-championship.
Oh, they beat Texas twice,
including in the championship.
Look, she can coach.
I mean, I never thought that program, that just goes to show you that coaching matters at that level.
Because the Lady Gamecocks, if I'm not mistaken,
I think Dawn was at Rutgers.
Wasn't she at Rutgers?
Temple.
Temple.
She might have been at an alma mater, Temple. And she gets that. Because I think Miss Stringer, C. Vivian Stringer was at Rutgers at Temple. Temple. She might have been at Alma Mater, Temple.
Because I think
Vivian Stringer was at Rutgers.
But anyway, they get Coach Daly.
Hey.
This is what I can do. Y'all check my resume.
Wooden player of the year.
Gold medal. Blah, blah, blah.
They get Asia Wilson.
And they started getting these women.
And they get Aaliyah Boston,
and they get Cordova,
and they get boom, boom, boom.
And the next thing you know,
here we are.
It's a trickle effect.
It is.
It is.
They keep on coming,
one after the other.
Yeah.
Yeah, she was at Temple.
She was at Temple before
because, you know,
she's a Philly kid.
Kid. She's a Philly lady. She was at Temple before. Because, you know, she's a Philly kid. She's a Philly lady.
She was from Philly.
Goes to Virginia.
So, yes.
But, USC, I'm sure USC, yes.
Just a few weeks ago.
Go ahead, Ochoa.
I'm going to say, that tournament is going to be really good.
Yeah.
South Carolina
USC
Texas
obviously all secure
number one seeds
again
for me
I got St. John
with the men's
and with the women's
I'm going with USC
and I'm simply
I'm simply
you go with Juju
listen I'm going
I'm going with Juju
but Juju's phenomenal
you know she's arguably the best player in the country she's dominant she's a dominant scorer And I'm simply, I'm simply, I'm simply. You go with Juju? Listen, I'm going with Juju. Boy, Juju's phenomenal.
You know, she's arguably the best player in the country.
She's dominant.
She's a dominant scorer.
She can do it.
Listen.
She can drive you.
She can put it on the floor.
Mid-range.
Oh, yeah, she's awesome.
She can hit you from three.
She can average in 25.
I mean, in high-pressure moments, in high-pressure moments,
when you need it best, I'm not saying she's Kobe,
but she got that Mamba mentality.
Based on what I've seen.
Yeah.
When it matters most and I got to have it.
Man, I need that rock.
I need that ball.
She trained with the guys, Ojo. She trained with the guys, Ocho.
She trained with the guys.
Feel handy.
Does a lot of work with her.
She got a great...
Cardoza.
I think that's her name.
Isn't that one that went number five?
She might have went number two overall to Chicago's guy.
Is it Cardoza?
Ash?
Cardoza. Yeah, Cardoza. Cardoza, Ash? Cardozo.
Yeah, Cardozo.
Cardozo, okay.
But when you look at Juju and you look at the way she plays,
her game reminds me of Maya Moore's.
She got a jump shot.
She can score at all three levels.
She can shoot the three ball.
She got a tremendous mid-range game.
She can put the ball on the floor. You watch her. She can finish the three ball. She got a tremendous mid-range game. She can put the ball on the floor.
You watch her.
She can finish at the rim.
She got a nice step through.
She got a nice Euro step.
She's unbelievable.
She's complete.
Yeah, she's nice.
She's complete.
Yes, sir.
She's the closest thing that I've seen since to Maya Moore.
Since Maya Moore.
Right.
I'm sure they're disappointed they didn't finish winning the tournament.
But, hey, it is what it is now.
Because at the end of the day, you want to win the tournament.
You want to win as many things you can.
You start the season off.
You go to these tournaments.
You want to win that.
You get to tell them you want to win the regular season.
You want to win the postseason.
And then you want to win the national championship.
At the end of the day, win the national championship, all is forgiven.
I don't mean to interrupt you.
Breaking news.
Bangles, Jamar Chase, and T. Higgins exclusively tell me they've agreed to a contract extension with the team.
Jamar gets four years, $161 million, with $112 million guaranteed, making him the highest-paid non-quarterback in NFL history. Tee Higgins gets four years, 115 with the first two years guaranteed, making him the highest paid wide
receiver two in NFL history. Wow. Congratulations, brother Jamar Chase, brother Tee Higgins.
They got that deal done. Joe Burr, I know Joe is happy, very happy to keep that unit together.
Obviously, me, I didn't think it would be possible.
I didn't think it would be possible.
Obviously, I can't break down the numbers right now in front of me,
but the fact that Joe was able to keep the two main targets.
Two guys, yeah.
Yeah, keep the two main guys together, man, is a really good thing.
And that's a step in the right direction for us.
And finishing, you know, what we need to
to get back to the promised land
at the end of the season.
So I'm happy for them.
I mean, I'm excited.
And kudos to the Blackburn family, to Mike Brown, in getting that done.
But let's get some work on that defense in now.
Yeah, I don't see how they pay Trey Henderson.
He wants north of $30 million.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't see how.
I'm not saying it can't be done.
I just don't see how.
Do you think it's possible
to still pay Trey?
What do you think?
I mean, that's tying all the money up
and just in for players.
He don't want north of $30.
Right.
He might have 35 sacks in two years.
Nobody has that many sacks in the past two years.
Right.
He's been a Pro Bowler both years.
Right.
Like I said, could it happen?
Yes.
And the question is that you have to ask yourself,
is the opportunity to go to the Super Bowl,
potentially win it over the next two years,
is that worth potentially being a salary cap hell in
27,
28? Right.
Well, also... This is about
25, 26, Ochoa. This is what this is about.
Right. Well, you know,
listen, there's a way you can get
out of salary cap hell
is by continuing to restructure those that have
large contracts.
Restructure and take some of that.
But all you're doing is kicking it down the road.
You're kicking it down the road because that balloon
baby going to come through now. Oh, at some point.
At some point. But hey, congratulations.
I know, I know
all, listen, I know my Bengal fans,
I know y'all happy, man. Zim Houdet,
I love you.
The deal has gotten done.
I'm excited.
I'm happy for both of them.
I just want to make sure we do what we need to do on the defensive end of the ball.
We had our problems, our issues offensively.
It just started late.
Just started late in the beginning of the season.
We need to fix that.
Fix that.
I think we're going to be all right.
But we need to work on that defensive side of the ball
and get some offseason acquisitions in,
some help on defense.
And I think we're going to be all right.
All right.
Yeah.
Who they?
OJ Brooks breaking news.
Higgins and Chase are back.
I mean, let's see.
41, that's 71, Joe Burrow.
So that's $126 million annually tied up in three players.
That's a lot.
How much is that tied between two, huh?
$55 million for Joe, $41 for Chase, $30 for Higgins.
Okay.
That's good, too.
That's $126 million.
I like that.
That means if you sign Hendrickson, that would be over $150 million.
So you'll have half your cap, over half your cap in four players.
Woof.
I just don't see how they do it.
We'll see how they do it.
Hold on.
I think it's going to pay off.
Have the Bengals ever rolled the dice like this before?
No.
Has Mike Bryant ever rolled the dice?
No. If you want change rolled the dice? No.
If you want change, sometimes you have to do things different.
The definition of insanity and doing the same thing over and over and over and over
and getting the same results and expecting something to change,
the fact that he's willing to change,
the fact that the Blackburn family and the Mike Brown family are willing to do something different,
it lets you know, all right, you know what?
We are intent on winning.
We're intent on winning and doing what's necessary to make sure we do.
For one, to contend in the AFC North and then further ourselves in the playoffs when the time comes.
I like it.
I like it.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I saw T. H like it. I'm excited. I'm excited.
I saw T. Higgins just tweeted the handshake emoji.
That's dope.
That's tight.
That's tight.
I'm happy.
I'm excited.
Yeah, so when we win the AFC North, you know why.
Ain't happening.
Did the Ravens trade L. Jack?
Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is not what we're on, hold on. This is not what we're going to do.
This is not what we're going to do.
The AFC North this year,
I'm not talking about what's happened in the past.
I'm talking about this year.
It's running through Cincinnati.
It's running through 5-1-3.
I'm just letting you know ahead of time.
No one has ever said
the road to the Super Bowl goes through Cincinnati.
You know what?
And you know what happened?
No one has ever seen Mike Brown and Troy and Katie do what they've done today.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
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Just a few weeks ago, Notre Dame was ranked
number one team in the country. Since then, the beginning
of the defeated double overtime in the NFC
State, the Irish have lost
three of their past five games.
The selection committee
seemed to punish them
for their sloppy finish,
giving them the number three seed
in Birmingham region.
That's a tougher draw
than the Irish expected.
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USC,
UConn,
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Duke in the regular season.
A particular collection of
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Well,
well,
South Carolina,
let me take South Carolina.
South Carolina. South Carolina.
UCLA.
Southern Cal.
Hell, I might take the three number one seed
of Notre Dame
that is
because a lot of times
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the upsets
in the women's game like you do the men's game
right
so
I can't pick the same team you pick
I gotta pick somebody different.
I mean, listen, if you knew it was best for you,
if you knew better, you'd do better.
So it's okay to pick.
It's okay to pick who I'm picking?
No, because we got to bet.
Oh, I still owe you $5,200.
You sure you want to bet some more?
You sure do.
I'm glad you brought that up. I wasn't going to break that up. You sure you want to bet some more? You sure do. I'm glad you brought that up.
I wasn't going to break that up.
You sure do owe me money.
I was wondering.
Chat, if y'all ever see somebody not pay their debt,
man, I'm about to send that thing.
Hey, I'm about to turn your thing into the credit, man.
Hey, I'm going to mess your credit up.
Hey, I'm going to mess his credit up, chat. Hey, I've been the best. Your credit up. Hey, I've been the best.
It's credit up, chat.
See y'all chat.
Y'all be a bad, bad,
stalling by, stalling by,
stalling by.
Nah, man.
I've been the best at credit.
I've been sending up the credit report.
See, but it's a good thing, though.
As long as I owe you,
you'll never go broke.
Not the fact that you'll ever be
in that position anyway.
It's just the fact that
if you ever needed it,
you know I got you.
You know I got you.
I want to got me.
If you give me my $5,200,
I won't need you to get me.
I got me.
I know, but I just want to make sure
I just want to make sure
everything stay on the up and up.
So I'm going to hold on to it.
Hey, I'm going to tell you what.
You know what?
Listen, I told you in 2025,
I didn't put myself back into fashion again.
I ain't put clothes on in about 27 years.
And I told myself, you know what?
This year, I'm going to step.
I'm going to step all year long, which is out of character for me because I'm a lazy dresser most of the time and have been for 20-some plus years.
And you know what? I said, I'm going to treat myself in 2025. I'm going lazy dresser most of the time and have been for 20-some plus years. And you know what? I say I'm going to treat myself
in 2025. I'm going to put some clothes
on. So I have a special 5200
on outfits.
You have a special, huh?
You have a special outfit.
I have a special...
I tell you what, when I see it, I'm going to
snatch him off your ass.
I'm going to be like, hey, Chad,
I'm going to make him undress right
on stage at the live event.
I'm going to pull
that act right gadget out. I'm going to make
him take on ass all that.
I'm going to make him come up out
it. How you going to tell me?
He done spent my money on dress.
I've noticed that every time I see
him. He got on
B-suit. He got on chained up.
I'm like, what?
Listen, this year, 2025 is the year of Ocho.
And forgive me, I'm treating myself because I've always been doing for others for so long.
But I'm talking about for years, Uncle, for years.
I ain't really never done nothing nice for myself.
What you do for me?
Huh?
What you do for me? I am. I got your money now. That ain't really never done nothing nice for yourself for me huh will you do
for me i am i'm i got your money now that ain't the problem i'm just gonna hold on to it for you
just just in case like you know when there's a fire you break the glass and you pull out the
fire extinguisher like that's the emergency that 5200 i owe you is an emergency now i didn't i
didn't got i didn't got some clothes and shoes and stuff, but if you need it,
I can go get Moe.
I'm trying to figure out
how this man,
this man,
oh, y'all ever see somebody?
They owe you money.
And every time you see them,
they got a new outfit on.
And they don't mention that,
and they come around you
with the new shirt on.
They don't mention nothing
about your money.
Hey, you should want to see the young fella shine bright, huh?
You should want to see the young fella shine bright.
In other words, you shine while I'm over here in the dark because I ain't got no money.
He's shining.
What about money?
I want to shine too.
Hey, put the spotlight on me.
The spotlight, Earl, you got Club Shay Shay, the best in the world.
We got Nightcap, the best in the world.
I mean, what more shining do you need?
The La Portia ain't doing well.
You know, I mean, all I'm doing, listen, I'm in the background.
I'm your background dancer.
You're the main attraction. I'm in the background, you know your background dancer. You're the main attraction.
I'm in the background, you know, with the knife.
I just want to put clothes on this year.
And I just want to go outside.
I want to look good.
And I want to remind folk that looked at me funny throughout the years that I'm still him.
I just chose not to do it.
So this year, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to remind everybody.
Like, I used to do this.
This used to be me back in 83, 83, 85.
Chat, this man go to
the DR. Yeah. Get a
villa. Yeah. For seven to ten
days. Yes, sir. That was me.
Part of that with the money
that he owe me. Yeah. And had on
some nice outfits too. You did.
Part of that money too.
Had on the V-suit jeans. Yeah.
Wide leg slack. With boots. They got That's part of that money, too. I had on the V-Suit jeans. Yeah. Wireless slacks.
And you know they got a V-Suit in New York.
They got a stove.
I know they do.
I used to go there.
I used to have a V-Suit, Red Monkey jeans.
What you know about Red Monkey, man?
I still...
Okay.
I got red...
I got like...
Probably $40,000 worth of red monkey jeans.
Okay, okay.
Talk to me, man.
Okay.
See?
Oh, you got $40,000 worth of red monkey,
but you were about to spend $200,000.
That was way back then, Ocho.
You remember when red monkey was in?
Red monkey jeans was in back in the mid-2000s.
Yes, I forgot.
They ain't been in,
but I've been trying to get rid of them.
Don't nobody want them.
Well, listen,
if you got some old stuff,
I'll wear it.
Now, it might not fit me.
I'll tell it.
It's going to get...
You can't tell.
I ain't got no problem
with no hand-me-down.
I ain't got no problem.
I ain't too good.
Damn, that was...
That was the biggest waste of money.
Right.
I can honestly say buying them red monkey jeans was the biggest waste of money.
Not really, Unc.
Just put it back on.
Put it back on.
I can't.
I can't wear them.
Why?
They're too big.
That's the whole point, Unc.
You got to say, all right, you know what?
I'm not one that follows fashion trends.
But right now, you ever see SGA dress?
Everything is big.
Everything is big.
So there you go. Everything will look big on him. SGA dress? Everything is big. Everything is big. So there you go.
Everything will look big on him.
SGA probably weigh 170 pounds.
They can sing six.
Man, you know the basketball players, they slim.
Right, right, right.
They ain't got no size to them.
That ain't how they build, don't you?
Yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
I mean, I'm treating myself this year.
Chad, what y'all think I should do to this man?
This man ain't paying me my money.
He buying all this ish in my face.
He got chrome heart.
Y'all know what chrome heart is.
Them jeans be costing 10, 12, 15,000.
All right, let me live a little bit.
This is my, I told you, 2025, just this year, and I'm done. This year, I'm done. I promise you bit I told you 2025 Just this year and I'm done
This year I'm done I promise you
I just want to step the rest of the year
What month we in? We in March?
March
So how many more months we got?
Huh?
Nine months left right?
I promise you after nine months
I'm done
And I'm going to give you a 5200
Let me finish studying the rest of the year
I got to wait on my money?
I mean you done waited this long
What's nine more months?
You done waited three?
I want to
I show
Boy
If I wasn't worried about YouTube
Demonetized lust
I have joy of going upstairs
And breaking that thing
So I can show you what I'm going to hit you with
Hey listen man
I'm in my winning season man
I'm in my winning season
I don't mind you winning
But how can I win
You win it
You got me
I'm in losing
Hold on no no
You ain't losing
I'm in my winning season
Because of you
It's your fault
You created the muscle
That people get to see
Now on Instagrams
And I'm on TikTok
I done created the TikTok
I don't even know
How to use it I'm using TikTok Like it's Instagram All I'm on TikTok. I done created a TikTok. I don't even know how to use it.
I'm using TikTok like it's Instagram.
All I'm doing is posting pictures.
Matter of fact, if you in the chat,
follow me on TikTok, Pepe Ochocinco.
P-E-P-E Ochocinco.
I don't know how to make no videos.
I don't know how to edit nothing.
So I'm using it.
Listen, I just want people to see
I'm in my winter season
and I like putting on clothes.
And I like matching.
Sometimes you might not like it.
Some dude in the chat the other day told me, your old ass dressing like you young.
I mean, how you talking about how I'm dressing and I look younger than you?
Baby hater.
Yeah, what you talking about, man?
I look good.
But have you seen me?
Have you seen me?
Man, you know you're not going to be able to wear Ocho
because if you wear, man, you're dressing like this.
If you put on clothes, why are you trying to dress like you're 30?
If you dress like that, why are you dressing like,
why are you dressing like, so you like,
dress how you want to dress, but pay me my money along the way.
Listen, I'm going to wear what I want to anyway, regardless,
but I'm just saying, at our age, what are we supposed to wear?
If I see shorts, I like, I'm going anyway, regardless. But I'm just saying, at our age, what are we supposed to wear? If I see shorts,
I like, I'm going to wear them.
If I, you know,
if I, wallet chain,
we used to wear back in the days,
you know, they used to wear them.
That seems to be the thing right now.
I never wore it.
My grandfather used to have a wallet chain,
but that's never been my thing.
Hey, man, listen, man.
Oh, I'm for that.
I'm going to give you money
in nine months.
Where?
But the rest of the year,
I'm not playing. I'm stepping. give you money in nine months. Weird! But the rest of the year, I'm not playing. I'm stepping.
You hear me? Yeah. I'm
stepping.
Oh, yeah. Now, you should be proud of me.
Yeah, you should look at
some of my posts and be like, boy,
that's my young fella there. One thing
about him, boy, he fly.
He going to be sharper than the number two pencil.
I'm going to be cleaner than the boy to hell
you hear me
yes I am
yeah
Burns just hit me up
talking about Iverson
stayed two years
Iverson
yeah he didn't leave
as a freshman
he stayed two years
cause that was his guy
he was a Georgetown fan
he was a
oh man
that gentleman
was a big Georgetown
and plus he
Iverson from Virginia
okay Burns from Virginia.
Okay.
Burns from Virginia.
So, obviously, that's his homeboy.
Grant Hill, that's kind of why he liked Duke also,
because Duke from Grant's from Virginia also.
So, Iverson stayed two years.
He didn't leave early.
He stayed two years.
He left after that.
Well, Coach Thompson told him to get up out of there, because it's time for you to go provide for your family.
But, yo, Ocho, I sure hope you all.
Ocho.
Yeah.
Y'all players to watch because, like I said, if you go back and look at the men's game,
I can't really name anybody with a Cooper flag.
Women, I know Paige Beckers.
I know Juju.
I know Hidalgo.
I mean, Hannah.
I don't know.
Hannah Hidalgo. You know, Hannah. I don't know. Hannah Hidalgo.
You know,
Michaela Blakes. Is that the one
from Vanderbilt, Ash,
that be dropping 50 down there on everybody?
You remember
she had two
games in which she scored 50.
And plus you got, can't forget,
Juju. And plus Juju.
So who you got? can't forget Juju. And plus Juju. So who you got?
So you taking USC.
USC, absolutely.
On the women's side.
You're taking St. John on the men's side.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And one thing, if you follow me for a while, especially people in the chat. I'm rarely wrong.
Rarely.
Now, I'm wrong sometimes, but it's very seldom.
So you know what to do with your money.
You know what to do.
You know who to put it on.
Not bad, Winocho.
No.
The volume. Climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.
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This is the struggle.
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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal
that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,
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