Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: NFL Hall of Fame DENIES Bill Belichick + Shannon UNLEASHES on the Hall of Fame + Eli Manning MISSES out on Hall Of Fame for the 2ND TIME

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Tom Brady slamming the NFL Hall of Fame for snubbing Bill Belichick, Eli Manning will have to wait one more year to get into the Hall of Fame, and Joe talks about being nominated for the Basketball Hall of Fame and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 14:30 - Tom Brady livid about Belichick’s HoF snub50:05 - Eli Manning will have to wait at least 1 more year (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. My partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honorary, a one-time Pro bowler and an all pro.

That is Chad Ochosinko Johnson. The third member of the Big Three, joining us on every Wednesday night. Y'all know, the University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock, Arkansas native, a seven-time NBA all-star with the Atlanta Hawks. That's ISO Joe Joe Johnson.

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Y'all saw you, but y'all saw you, but y'all saw you, ball. Y'all saw what I did. Y'all saw what Joe did. BTA, man. You know what I'm saying? Hey. Now he wants to do stuff. I need to do stuff.

Joe, you hear, I need to do stuff that, that's physically, that's physically. I got to use. Come on, I'm Elcho, man. Hey, I'm damn this 60. Y'all, listen. Listen, what would that mean? What, what that mean? That's your fault for being 60.

You know, hey, Joe. Now he wanted to get out there run and play flag football. Listen, no, no, no, no, no. I need to do activities that I'm familiar with. Y'all did stuff for old people. I'm not old. Y'all did old people. Why you do all that talking to you?

You should have just kept your mouth closed. No, I mean, listen, they edited to make y'all do. Oh, Cho, Cho, Ocho. Just just just just just mess up man just say look man Joe you you you was you was a bad mofo that day I did I you were slow yo Joe Joe listen to me Joe listen to me a squirrel even a clock is right two times a day Joe hello well you clearly you're not a clock because you weren't right no time that day so just so you know I tell you I tell you what next time we go and we do something Yo, you go get your ass tore up again?

Hey, hey, Joe, I was respecting my elders. Now my elders talking trash. Hey, listen. Now I got to open up a can. I'm going to keep it real with you. I felt like I should have won. I should have won the, I felt like I should have won the cornhole and I should have won the golf.

I just, you know how to. So in other words, you should have won sweet steaks at the lawn club. Hey, I was trying to sweep it. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm trying to sweep you more. I like, I like, I like the fact. that Joe, you have confidence in these other crafts that you do outside of basketball. But I got something for y'all unc.

I was trying to respect my elders and be respectful of you in the fact that you're handicapped in a sense. But I see. I didn't bring the placard that day. So you didn't know I was handicapped. I put belt d'all. I was a little wheelchair with built d'all. I was rolling around.

Don't worry about it. I got, I got, I got you. Hey, you got, you got a look on the bright side, though. Think about this. See, y'all playing against me, the best. So when we play against these other podcasters, y'all, y'all gonna put BTA to them.

You feel it? Hold on. Hold on. We, we're playing against who, the best who? Come on, come on, Joe. You seen my work. You seen my work, Ocho? Hey, Joe, that was a small sample size, Joe,

and you just happened to win that day. Wait, okay, wait to the next episode. You think that was something. There he go. There he go. See us head, Ocho. See what you started? Hey, hey.

See what you started, Ocho? All right. Yeah. Yeah, when he got after Russell talking, I wasn't even talking that much. Oh, I'm about to blow you. Oh, I know you boys don't know how to play no golf. I know you guys can't put. Oh, you got too much of a muff.

Oh, Cho, you ain't never been on the golf course in your life. Yeah, I ain't never been on the golf course. We can tell you. That's not what I do. That's not what I do. So, I mean, listen, he got that. I'm going to let him head at. And you tried to cheat.

Oh, Joe, did we not say sudden death? In sudden death in a golf, you play a hole. If somebody holds out, it's over. You don't get to, well, I got. three more shots. No, you don't, it's over. He cheated. I cheated.

It's all good. I just walked that thing like Tiger Woods. Hey, hey, I know what I'm up against now, though. I see what going on. I'm good. I'm good. I beat Tiger Hood. He never could be on a palm tree.

Oh, on a palm tree, pour that thing out. Hey. Cach-ha-K-K-K-K. Hey, Joe, I would chilling. I would chilling. I ain't even have on clothes to actually do activities. I would dress to go to dinner. So that's how you do I want to do.

I got a serious. Hey, hey, I gave you a compliment on that jacket too. With that jacket with 5900. Now, that about 12,000. Damn. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. That jacket was how much?

About 12,000. And you want me double that? See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying, Joe? You see what I'm saying, Joe? Nah, and they're talking about, man, you need to go easy on Ocho. Nah, I'm going to find Ozo. I'm going to find that zone.

Say, I'll break him on the show. That wasn't the head on that beating on. Oh, girl, Joe, I'm gonna break him on the show. Nah. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, he could bring on. No, I'll bring him on.

Oh, you could bring, oh, yeah, bring him, bring him too. Because he, listen, you got to understand. That's 1991. I don't surpass him three times over. So I ain't worry, I ain't worried about you bringing him on. You know how they do. They get one up on us. Oh, yeah, you know, I told, oh, Joe, girl.

You've been, oh, Chad. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The one from Beach High School. Yeah. Right. What? Hey, Joe, can I tell you something, Joe?

Go ahead, go ahead. That was 4,276 girls ago. Dang it. You're up there with Will, right? Huh? You up there with Willing. Hey, I taught Willed everything. But here's the thing.

This is what we do know. We still remember the one they got to it. 50 girls. That's fine. 30 girls ago, I tricked 20,000. That's fine. Let me say. Give me my money.

Hey, hey, hold on. If you take something for me, then you're doing me a favor because that's one less expense. There you go. And I like how you a day, Joe. I got, hey, uncle, I told you I'm going to pay you at the show. I'm going to pay you at the show. I'm going to bring $5,900 in cash, and that's how you're going to go on the show. You know what?

That's perfect because the Mississippi Mad Squad are going to be there. They can sing at your funeral. If you don't have me my money, that's exactly what they can do. Hey, why y'all ain't tell me the news? Oh, I wasn't supposed to tell you. But anyway, I don't know, you know what? I might pull out now. They say until you pay Uncle his money,

they ain't singing the thing. Yeah. Hey Joe, listen. I'm singing with the Mississippi Mass Choir, which has always been a dream of mine. You know, they wanted, they wanted me to sing with them when I was younger, you know, back in my early days and Joe, hey, uncle, listen to me.

When I used to do my chores on Saturdays, yeah. My grandma, she would either have Mahia Jackson playing, either Reverend James Cleveland or the Mississippi Mass Choir. So I always been a fan of them. So I used to be through the house, you know, mopping, cleaning,

the grass with my cassette player listen to the Mississippi Madd Quire so Joe I get to live out my childhood dream at the show on Thursday, boy Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you know I can sing, huh? No, I ain't know that. Yeah, Joe, I was on America Idol.

You was in, hold on, but was you in the choir when you was younger? Yes. You used to wear the robe and everything. Yeah, Joe, I used to lead the junior, I led the junior choir, Joe. Yeah? What you is a soprano? I'll tell what, what are you?

I'm a, I'm a soprano. They call them Francis Scott off Keith. Who? You. Hey, Joe, listen to me, Joe. Nah, on a hill, far away, stood an old rugged cross. Yeah, hey, Joe, I can go, Joe. Hey, Joe, I can go now.

Okay, man. Yeah, I'm like that. I'm like that, Joe. Okay. I'm excited. Hey, Uncle, I appreciate that. As a matter of fact, everybody from the nightcap team, if you can hit me, I love you. I love you.

And then you don't know, you don't understand what this means to me, man. You don't understand. I wish my grandma, my mom, I'm here to see this, man. Boy. Hey, Joe, I'm for the cut up, Joe. You're for the act of fool. You don't have me about $50,000. Man, listen, I'm going to drink some hot tea.

Hey, some hot peppermint tea, Joe. Oh, yeah. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Hey, hey, oh, it's been, it's been three years now, bro. I think you probably can charge that $5900 to the game. But the boy had a cold. Yeah, you saw that. Joe.

You and I showed up, you and I showed up to compete. You see what I'm saying? Joe, we know the ones that ain't showing to compete. Them the one that have the freshest joy j's on, shirt tucked in their shorts, ain't going to do nothing. Yeah, and don't get off the bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't leave the bitch, Joe.

The dude they got the highest work ain't left the bitch yet. Right. See, this is what I didn't understand. This is what I'd understand. I had prepared myself, right? I didn't know what was going to be like that. I ain't know y'all was coming. It really going to really be into it. So now that I understand how it's going to go from this point on, just know next time I'm coming in sweats and my shoes tied up, no glasses, no jacket, just ready to go. Okay. It don't matter. Okay. You're not weird enough. It doesn't matter. It matter. Oh, it definitely matter. It definitely. matter and I would like to know what we do no no that's the whole point didn't nobody know what we were doing ahead of time yeah okay well that's why I was drag did it tell me you know that's what I'm gonna do that I didn't do that you know knew you knew put put that on put that with my grandma had I know you won't tell because she won't meet them she loves it best what I lose yeah well you you go you're gonna lose don't worry about that hey make sure you

Y'all edit it so I look good, man. We're going to make you look just like you are, good and terrible. Nah, no, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do me like that. Hey, God, damn. I miss you the mask quiet. See, Ash got mad on Cho, see,

Ash didn't realize she ain't really look in the backyard that good that I got a cornhole set up. See, see what I mean? See, see, hey, Joe, see how you take advantage of the situation? And sometimes when the dogs out there mess around, I go through a couple of bags, you know, see, get me, you know, get my toss right. You see how I was flying that thing over there, Joe. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It's all good. All right, let's get into it. Tom Brady joined the course of voices living. That coach Bill and Belichick was snub from being a pro football hall of fame, said the voting committed decision is completely ridiculous. The quarterback coach combination Brady and Belichick famously teamed to lead to patients the six Super Bowl victories, nine conference championships.

Multiple sources spoke with Belichick over the weekend described him as puzzled and disappointed by his inability to secure support. of at least 80% of the hall committee. Ocho, we saw how the hall did T.O., but could you have ever imagined them doing this to coach Bill Belichetje? I mean, listen, it's get back for them. It's get back for them for all the press conferences.

Bill really being one that really doesn't disclose much, he doesn't give you much during those interviews. And this is what happened when you've got people in positions of power that are able to control the narrative and control who gets in. This show contains information. Object to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man?

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I mean, it was shocking to me, but I kind of understand it because this is what happened when you have ego and pride and people who can control certain narratives when it comes to certain people. Oh, Joe. I honestly, it's effing ridiculous. It's everything. It's politics. Listen, as prestigious as it is to be able to get into the Hall of Fame.

And what it means, I mean, this kind of lessens the value of actually getting in based on accolades and resume. It lessens it. Because what's the criteria to get in the hall? Obviously, he meets all that. When he comes to accolades, exceeds it. He exceeds it. meets it. Right.

It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. A lot of what you said had a lot of truth to it. We saw a situation a couple of days ago with the Tracy Morgan situation. He got treated bad one way, when he was younger. Now he's in a position that he could actually help somebody. He's like, no, I remember you. You bully.

I remember you. Come on, now. Now, same thing. The people that coach Belichick wrong. way back when they tried to talk and he was smug and short. Now, listen, two things can be true. Yes, sir.

They got to get back. Yeah. Chuck Vince Lombardi, Coach Lombardi, Coach Chuck Knoe, Coach Tom Landry, Coach Don Schuller, the four coaches that's entered the hall on their first try.

They're the four first ballot coaches to go in in the Hall of Fame. Coach Belichick has more Super Bowls than any of those. He has more victories other than Coachula. He has more playoff wins, probably more than all of them combined, more division titles. He's a, he's a, there's no doubt.

There's no doubt. But I'm just trying to figure out where was the uproar when T.O. didn't go in. They, listen, chat, and I, I, this is not, and I'm just not a white or black thing. I'm telling you a right and a wrong thing. What they did the T.O. was so egregious. They changed the rules to keep him out on the first ballot. They didn't change no rules.

These are the same applicable rules that every member that's been voted on to go into the hall. When they said, no matter what a person does off the field, you can't use that to keep him out the hall. only what he did on the field. When it came down to T.O. They changed the bylaws.

What you did on the sidelines could be used against you. What you did in the facility could be used against you because they had nothing on him off the field. Tio has never been in trouble. He's never run afoul with the law. He's never having his name be mentioned for any impropriety. T.O. He led the 49ers in reception, receiving.

He led the Eagles in receiving. He led the Cowboys in receiving. He led the bills in receiving. He led the Bengals in receiving. There are three men in the history of the NFL that's been a first team all pro with three different teams. One of them is one primetime Dion Sanders, first battle Hall of Famer.

The other is Ted DeStork Hendricks. Hendrickson. He and one, Terrell Owens. He's one of three men with 150 receiving touchdowns in the history of the game. Now we are the uprope. So now the Hall of Fame doesn't have, so now the Hall of Fame doesn't have any merit. When you kept there been so many guys that should have been a first ballot and you kept them out. Yes, what they did to Coach Belichick is egregious and he should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer.

But so, so should have T.O. So if you didn't want to change the rules and say, no, what they did, the T.O. was wrong. Now all of a sudden, whoever didn't vote for Coach Belichick, it needs to be made public. when there's never ever been a cry to make the votes public. Why now? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, obviously because it's Coach Belichick, because it's both Coach Belichick and it's egregious, just as egregious as I'm not letting T.O. in. And this is one of the things as, as much as the Hall of Fame means are so many, you know, and I just, for me, you know how I am. And Joe, you know me as much as we've known each other, Unk, you know. You know me extremely well. And those who know me personally know I'm one that it never needed validation. I'm one that conducted myself in a way where I felt if I can't be authentic to myself

and I still be accepted and whatever it may be, I don't really care. You know, so Joe, you know, you got to think when I put that Hall of Fame jacket on myself, you know that was not an approval of any and everybody. Even Coach Lewish, a joke came to me after the game. and say you know what that's not going to sit right with a whole lot of people especially those voters and I told coach Lewis after the game I say coach Lou when I put that jacket on that was to let you know and everybody else know I don't need your validation at that moment after that touchdown and I crossed that 10,000 yard mark that 10,000 yard mark yeah I felt I was hall of fame worthy and I don't need which they probably wouldn't because I was always I was always the problem child Joe. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that perception that I had of enjoyment and having fun in my way and not conforming to what they felt I should have been like.

No. At that moment, I felt I was Hall of Fame worthy. Right. That's why I put the goddamn jacket on. Oh, Joe, Joe, I'm going to trip you out now. Now, this is what they're saying. They said that SpyGate and the Flake Gate might have had some bearing or some weight to it

to keep coaching them. check out. I don't know if you know this, but I was a criminal justice major. Do you guys know what fruit of the poisonous tree is? So the way you, the way they do this, if you said coach Belichick got these Super Bowls and these victories through ill gotten means, who benefited from those ill gotten means? There's a guy coming up for the pro football Hall of Fame. They say he to go. Yes, sir. It's going to be very interesting. Who would have been a beneficiary of Spygate? Who would have been a beneficiary of the Flakegate? Number 12.

Are you going to keep Tom Brady out? You're not. So why would you keep Coach Belichick? Hey, I got a question, Uncle Ocho. Who does the vote? Are these ex-plians? They do have, I think, like three or four players that do vote, but none of the almost 400.

Most are, it's 50 men and women. The mere fact that sometimes, Joe, the way it does, is that you have a writer from your city, from your team, and he makes an argument. When they went up to do Dan Marino, they said, Dan Marino, and they sought back down. When they did Peyton Manning, they sat back down. You don't even have to make a case.

That should have been for Coach Belichick. You already know his resume. The second most wins, the most playoff wins, 17, 18, a division titles, six Super Bowls as a head coach, two as the defensive coordinator. His game plan is in the hall. of fame when he shut down the K gun in Super Bowl.

I think it was Super Bowl 20. So there shouldn't have had it. There shouldn't be, they shouldn't have to, you shouldn't have to build a case. Mm-hmm. Because this plane is right there. You know what the man did. This is not no 1960.

And I'm not saying you, I'm not trying to discredit anybody. But this is the modern era. Anything that happened to the Super Bowl. The man, so in the last 25 years, have we ever seen a streak of, domination in the NFL in the history of the game, no.

So it's going to be very interesting. These same 50 men and women that y'all said spy gate and the flake gate weighed into winning well who benefited? So that means nobody that played on those teams during those spy gate and the play gate

can go into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot by your argument. I'm just using what you said because y'all use that and then all of a sudden now, Don't nobody know Bill Pauli said he can't remember. They just had to vote last week, Coach, Joe. Man, you know they got, you know they remember. Joe, they absolutely remember.

If I can see if it was 15, 20 years ago. Man, I can't remember. Man, there's so many guys because we voted. They got 120 guys. We got to wheel it down to 75. We got to take it down to 50. We got to take it down to 25. And then we get it all the way down to 10.

And then we got a senior committee. Yeah. So I can't remember all that over 15 years, Ocho. man they remember they remember hey joe they pick and choose when they want to move the goal they do depending on who it is and this is this this was a okay now we got you now we're going to get you yes yes yes and that's what i try to tell players oh joe yes that is exactly how it works because at the end of the day oh joe you got to realize i understand you're supposed to take that out of it but that's a human being they got feelings you can't give somebody your ass to keep you

and expect them to do you a solid, even though that's what their job requires. But they're human at the end of the day, Joe. Yeah. Everybody knows Coach Belichick should have been a first ballot Hall of Fame. Because if he's not, well, who's this? I said the same thing with Tio. I say if T.O is not a first ballot Hall of Fame receiver.

I don't know who is. I don't. I don't. I don't. And I used to think I knew what a Hall of Famer was, having played in the game, haven't played against a lot of the guys that went in, because basically anybody that went in, say, 95 on,

I probably played against them or saw them up close and personal. So I know, and plus, oh, Joe, you know, we go in there, we break down meeting. We know the good player. Yeah. What the media says and all the fan base to get all excited about, all I know is that when we took that guy off that tape, he wasn't one of the guys we circle. I'm going to leave it at that.

So we know for them to do that to coach Belichick. But I believe two things can be true. Go ahead, don't Joe? Yeah. Hey, Joe, that's some bull crap, man. I just, I hate when people are in positions of power. And I never would, I would love for players that are always asking to get in. I know they would love to be honored.

But I hate the fact that some of them, they beg and they, and they hawk and they, and they, and they, they try so bad to want to be a part of something. because of what it entails. Yeah. You know, and in needing the validation, just because you don't wear that gold jacket don't mean you wouldn't that boil in the field. Right.

You still, based on resume and accolades, when you turn that film on, it's still there. The numbers you put up, the stuff that you've done during your career is still there. Absolutely. It ain't going nowhere. And I just, I would never, ever give anybody, not just the Hall of Fame in general,

never give anybody the satisfaction of knowing they got that over me and being able to control and how I feel. It's a situation also. Mr. Kraft, what the hell we wait in on? Tell me an owner, and I get it. Some of these old owners,

Mr. Modell, Art Modell. I won't disrespect him by calling Mr. I call him Art. Art, look at what he does. You got Monday night football. He was the reason why. The benefit, the union,

he's the reason why. But because he moved this team from Cleveland to Baltimore, because the city, they wouldn't play for the upgrades to the stadium, he's the only owner. There's been, the Raiders go back and forth. The hell, the Raiders was moving like they had a mobile home. Hook up the truck and just move it up and down. They go to Oakland, they back to L.A.

They go to L.A., they back to Oakland. Back and forth. Never had to leave the colors. The Rams, y'all do, like the Cardinals, y'all do realize The Cardinals used to be in St. Louis, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. They moved. They didn't have to leave the colors.

The Rams. The Rams originally started out. They weren't in, they were in California. Then they moved to Anaheim. Then they moved to St. Louis. Moved them back. They never left the colors. The Colts, Mr. Ursey, Bob Ursey,

moved him in the middle of the night in 1984, like a thief of the night. Load up the Mayflower bands and moved them. And he never left a club. color or record. The Tennessee Titans, they used to be the Houston Oilers. They went to Nashville first. Excuse me.

Yeah, they went to Memphis. Was it Memphis? I think they went to Memphis first. But anyway, and then they went to Nashville. And never have to leave a color or record. Art Modell is the only owner in NFL history that has moved and was required to leave. The colors and the records.

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Hey. Because you're wrong. The way you did, Tio, was absolutely wrong. The way you did Bill Belichick was wrong. Dead ass. The way you've done Mr. Kraft

and the way you've done Art Modell is wrong. And you know it. Yeah. They make them pay, boy. How much more can I pay? I mean, Joe, how much more can I pay? I don't know, but hey, it's obvious because, you know, his accolades meets the requirements.

I mean, obviously, we all know that Bill Belichick is the first ballot. You know, maybe due to the flake gate, all the shenanigans that is transpired with the Patriots, obviously they're rubbing them people it has way man it has it has Joe but you know what but I think the thing look Coach Belichick did not make it on any

reporter to do their job he didn't make it easy he didn't no we I think we can two things to be true he wasn't the easiest person to do your job but he's more than worthy of being a first ballot hall of fame

two things can be true no question and they are in this situation but I don't believe now because it's egregious on the level of T.O. That all of a sudden voters should have to reveal themselves. So now I guess let me see now, Ocho, so if we start doing this, I guess everybody that voted for a candidate that my candidate didn't win. I want to know everybody that voted for the other candidate. Now, I need to see names.

Yeah. You see how ridiculous that sounds? They ain't going to do that. That's the whole point of the voting booth. That's why you go into Ochoo, you pull the curtain. Because don't nobody supposed to see who you voted for? Or no. Now, if you want to tell, who knows?

I don't know if I believe you're not, because you're lie, people lie so much now, I don't know if I believe it. Oh, I would never vote for him. Check. I wouldn't vote for her either. Check. I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

But in this situation, everybody knows Coach Belichick. It like Coach Belichick. It hurts him. See, like when your name came, like when the first time my name came up in, in 2009, I was one of the one, I think, 125. I got whittled down. And then I made the final 10.

Made it to like, the final 10, final 10. Made it to like the room of like the five, because back then, Ocho, the, the coaches and owners went in like players. They've since changed that. They've since changed that. Because an owner and a contributor, they're two different things, Ocho. they didn't they they don't know damn field so how you go in

as the equivalent of a player that actually played the game so they changed that and I agree that but next year I come back Ocho I got less votes the second year than I did the first year I said I said you know what if I didn't get in

I said if you didn't like my stats this year you're going to hate them next year because they're not going to get any better and the guy that's coming behind me gonna have better stats yeah I said I can't add to it. I said, I wish I can go back and get me another 50 catchers, maybe another, you know, seven, eight touchdowns,

and go to a Super Bowl. Yeah. But there ain't nothing I can do. All I can do is just go back, go back and look at my body of work. And don't compare me, don't compare me against Ozzie and Kellan and John Mackey and Mike Dicca. Look at everybody tight ends that played in the 90. And look how far ahead I was than them.

And I played in a running scheme. Yes, sir. So that, I say, judge me by the 90s. Don't judge me by what Kellan and Ozzie and Dicka and Mackie and Christensen and all those guys, Dave Casper, because that's unfair. That's unfair to them. That's unfair to me. I said, but my resume speaks for itself. Go ask the defensive coordinators that had the game playing me and ask them what they thought of me.

Oh, what, Dave. There you go. Yeah. Ask Floyd Peters. Ask Gunther Cunningham. Yeah. Ask coach Cower. As coach Belichick, ask what they thought of me.

Y'all see, see, sometimes, Ocho, sometimes the antics can overshadow the plate. And, you know, look, I'm having fun. Call the National Guard. I'm talking crazy to a lot of people. Oh, yeah. But all I know, my team's won. Period. See, that's not fair, man.

What? Hey, Joe. What's that? His team's won, but mine was losing. Hey, hey, Ocho, you got to play the car. That's it. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, I play, I play one hell of a hand too, Joe. You hear me?

I play one hell of a hand too. Yes. Yeah. Look, they didn't say I couldn't have, we couldn't have fun while we're playing. Our job was the catch, block, help our team win, get the ball in the end zone. Yeah, look. Oh, yeah. And Cincinnati, you didn't have the best, you wasn't the best setup.

I don't know if it was the most conducive for winning. Yeah. I like it though. I understand. That's the hand. Look here. If we play in space, some people, Joe, we play space. If you don't get into space, you throw the hand in.

Some people play if you get face cards. You got to play the hand, even if you don't have space. Well, Ocho, you have face cards. You didn't have space, but you had to play that damn hand. And you played it well. You got a couple of books out of it. You got six pro pros. You got all pros.

Yeah. Come on, now. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people. The Ocho ain't win. Look here. I've never heard, tell me the time you've seen a receiver,

he has the most comeback wins. The only winning that matters is quarterbacks. That's why they have, how many wins Tom Brady have, how many wins Peyton Manning have, how many wins, pack your homes, how many come from behind wins. They don't put that on anybody else. They don't get that tied to the coaches.

They don't give it to tight ends, wide receivers, defensive, nothing. So only winning is tied to the quarterback. That's the only one that winning matters, That's what they tell you. That's what they tell you when they want to get said guy in. Now, they want to keep you out. They're dead-ass wrong.

They know it. Coach Belichick should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. Absolutely. I like Coach Belichick when he's not in Coach Belichick mode. He's a really great guy to be around. I went to the Pro Bowl with him and had a conversation, sitting at the bar talking, having a drink. I wouldn't drink at the time I was drinking virgin, strawberry,

Daccarry, probably about 7,000 calories. But, you know, we at the bar having a good old time. I was working with CBS at the time, and I think it might have been, who was the coach? I'm trying to think who the coach was. I can't even remember who the damn coach was now. I mean, I know Coach Belichick was one with the coach. I'm trying to think who the quarterbacks were. I can't remember.

But when you get Coach Belichick away when he's not in New England and he's not in that that focus mode, he's great to be around. And everybody that's ever been around every player will tell you he's great to be around. But when he's in that mode, he's all business.

Different. He's different. It's just like the quarterbacks. Payton open up a little bit. But when he get away from football, he just doesn't have a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he's in there all the way down.

Yeah. And it's long. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the funny thing about it, a, is this what I like. I mean, Joe and Uncle, I tell you this all the time. I would love for players to stop being so PC and be themselves in front of cameras. But most of the time, depending on who you are, especially the face of the team,

you have to conduct yourself a certain way. I am so happy, Joe, that I was able to not only play with Tom, but see Tom outside when that cat is not rolling. I'm so happy. I was able to see Peyton Manning at the Pro Bowl outside when that cat is not rolling. That goddamn Bill Belichick, who I worked with all last year on inside the NFL, I was glad to see that bill outside of the bill that everyone sees in front of that goddamn camera. Man, they ain't nothing like that in real life. He seemed a little more open on the NFL, Joe.

He's more open than that at the bar. Joe, they're nothing like that in real life. And you would have to know them personally, and it almost, to them, to them, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It does them almost a disservice where the rest of the world can't see how really dope they are because they have to be one way when the camera's motherfucking roll. I'm sorry. When the cameras roll. They have to be so, they have to be so buttoned up because everybody's trying to get that gotcha moment with one of those guys.

Yeah. Peyton, Tom, all these guys, they're really, really buttoned up when the cameras are around. But when they're just hanging out with friends and buddies or being somewhere. Hey, there's funny, funny, funny. You forget. Hey, hey, that's Tom Brady. Yeah, funny. That's how it was when I played in Phoenix and we had the two-time MVP, Steve Nash.

Y'all know, he used to go out with us, Uncle Ocho. He used to hang out with us. Steve? Omari, Quinn Richardson. Yeah. And she would be with us in the spot. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm a good old time. You know, Joe, I know Steve a little bit. You know, I play soccer with Steve all the time. He loves soccer. He loves soccer. I play soccer with Steve all his time. Hey, hey, he used to, uh,

He liked playing hockey, too. We came to practice one day, you know, you know, hockey and basketball. It's the national pastime. Man, listen. Ocho, we came in, that man had on skates. He was out there on that ice. He used to have seen coach went crazy.

Man, what did you out here doing? That man know what he doing, though. Hey, that boy will be moving on that ice, man. Yeah. You're different dudes. It's embarrassing. It really is. I still think the Hall of Fame is prestigious.

It's the heaven for the individual sport that you play basketball, football, baseball. I guess it's kind of like going into the, if you're a musician, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland Ocho. Hall of Fame. If you're a professional bull rider, I think that's in Colorado Springs. It's your football. It's your football heaven. It's your football mecca. I remember my grandmother when I called my grandmother when I finally got to call in 2011, I called my grandma.

I said, hey, granny. She said, hey. I say, great, I'm going to the Hall of Fame. I never forget she said what's that baby I say uh I say uh I said granted that's that's where all the good players go she's yeah that show is good son that show good I show hope I'm around to see it because at that time okay she had gotten really really sick so this was in January this was in January beginning of February she passed in July so she didn't actually she didn't actually you know what I'm saying but she realized my grandmother knew

she could not see that ceremony physically. She had to leave this place physically and go with me there spiritually because then that body wasn't going to take her. And so to hear like, ooh, that show, that showed good. She would always have my sister, let me find that boy on TV.

My sister put the TV on because, you know, back then we were really good. So the Broncos always came on in that late window for, uh, yeah, for ABC, NBC, NBC, NBC. What this? NBC. So we always came on the late window.

It is a huge honor. It is. It is a huge honor. But there has been some damage done by some players that didn't get in that should have gotten in. And even if no matter what you think about Tio, and T.O should have been the first ballot. But then you skip him again on the second just to prove a point. And make the guy going on the third ballot. No matter what you think.

You see. I think Tio is one of the three greatest receivers to ever play. I think it's Jerry. I think. Jerry, Randy and Tio. Now, you can flip, I think you can flip Tio and Randy. I think it's universal regard to Jerry is it. Jerry is it.

For me, Jerry's it. Some people like Randy, but I think you can say, but even if you're not like Ocho and I, Tio is not getting out of the top five of receivers that ever play this game. He's just not. No, absolutely not. So with that being said, if that's not first ballot,

I don't know what is. I don't. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't think DT, I don't think DT going in the first ballot. I don't think DT went in on the first ballot.

Come on, bro. Did anybody, did anybody watch D.T. From 1989 to 1999. Did anybody watch those 11 years? I got to see it up close and personal. From 90 to 99. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. They got you, boy. They got me a nominee this year. Think about Ocho. Yeah. D.T. had to go five times.

Before we got it now. Dang. Anybody that played, anybody that played against D.T. Ask them. Yeah. That first step, they need to stop. But see, this is what you get. Because you know what happens, Ocho, once you let them, once they get away with keeping certain people out, they feel like that's a lot of power.

Ocho. Yeah. That's a lot of power, Joe. Hey, you know how you take your power back? Hey, Joe, you know how you take your power back? How you take it back? You create your own. Say effort.

You create your own. Shoot. Hey, I got me a 14-carat gold bus. Yeah. Joe, you create your own bus. Oh. You create your own jacket. Shit.

What y'all talking about? Oh man. What'd you going to get, uh? That's crazy, man. Hey, hey, hold on. Let me show you mine. Hold on. I don't know who's going to get this.

The kids. I might have to have the kids sell this because, boy, look here. They're only one of them, Joe. The only one. You know, I got to keep them apart. They got to keep that part. They got the way. Hey, they hooked you up.

Hey. They hooked you up, bro. Some kids. Where you are, Joe, what you got? Hold on. Hey, it's in the showcase too, it's too heavy to bring out. I got a 14-carat gold bus like that, but it's in the showcase.

I can't carry the whole thing. Do you really, Joe? Yeah, well, I don't, hey, Joe, I don't play. I'm not, listen, them people ain't letting me in, so I had to go make my own. No, you laughing. Why you laughing? Joe, I'm not playing.

I'm 14-carried gold bus. When they do my game room, you know they're doing my game room for me, right? Yeah. So by the time we get to, like, sometime after balance times, Yeah, they doing my, because you told me, you told me my parents. Nah, mine, so the duck 6,500 from the game room.

Shoot that over to me. Wait, I, wait, you said it was 59. How do you get the 6,500? Got to be some interest. Yeah. Gotta be, Ocho, three years. Hey, but, but no, this is for the show, though. I need, I need the presentation when we get on.

I needed to look good. Yes. So, but the bus, the bus is going to be in the background. with all our awards and the nightcap, my nightcap sign is going to be on. Like Joe, the whole thing is going to look real nice, Joe. Yeah, the chap would really appreciate if you cut that nightcap sign on.

Hold on, let me see if it worked. Hold on, hold on. It's too bright. What? Can they see it? Oh, it ain't bad, on Joe? It's distorted, though, huh? Yeah.

Yeah. I think because it's so far away, is distorted. So we do we know, also Eli Matt, we're going to talk about Eli later, or we're going to talk about that? Okay.

Here's that. Armando Salgaro, one of the yes voters claims there were voters in the room who voiced their concerns about Spigate before voting. Along with reinforcing the importance of voting process,

the hall released a statement stressing actions will be taken if one or multiple voters committed a violation of the selection process. The hall did not mention Belichick by name or identify the selection process bylaws may have been broken. One violation for would be an example, would be making a decision on a candidate based on non-football reasons.

That does not, however, include Spigate. Varagorean or the Kansas City, Vahee, Gregorian, I guess that's how you said that. I apologize. I know Gregorian. Kansas City Star became the first voter. to outright confirm he voted against Belichick. He explained that he didn't vote against Belichick and craft so much as the other three seniors players in Shrine.

Who was that? Anderson. Who? I know Roger Craig and L.C. Greenwood. I don't know who Anderson is. Gagorian said he believed all five of the candidates were deserving, but was concerned that the three players would have to wait much longer than Belichick, like many other senior candidates.

Well, people say they wanted to put his name to it. I believe Elsie Greenwood. Look, Elsie Greenwood was not as heralded as Minjo Green, Jack Lambert, Jack Hamm, Mel Blunt. But go back and look at those that steel curtain defense and look at the guy with the high top yellow shoes, Ocho. Go back and look now. Yeah.

I'm old enough to remember Elsie Greenwood. I remember those things every every Super Bowl they won especially in the late like 76 77 77 78 79 yeah Elsie was what was he I mean they got I mean think about it

they got Joe Green Hall of Fame Ham Lambert Hall of Fame Mel Blunt Hall of Fame Donnie Shell Hall of Fame so you got five Hall of Famers right there and you got LC you had Andy Russell, who was a perennial all-pro and pro-bo player. L.C. Greenwood was a pro-bo player. So it's not very many times that you got seven all-proes and pro-bo players

on a defense at a given time. And you're definitely not going to have five Hall of Famers in their prime together. Now, you might have a Hall of Fame that come later in his career, but they were all drafted to the Steelers. The Steelers drafted five Hall of Famers in 74. Where they drafted for, Don Ishell was an undjured. drafted free agent, Lynn Swan, Jack Lambert, John Starworth, and Mike Webster. Their first four picks on Ocho in the Hall of Fame.

And then Don Ishael was an undrafted fee agent, his fifth, the fifth player. So one draft class on a team, I think we got five at our 90 draft class, Ocho, 250, 40 players. They got five of their first 12, 13, 14 picks. Wow. You ain't going to ever see that again. I don't know. Bill Nunn,

Radio Rahin, that's his dad. With Bill Nunn, he was the guy to scouting, yes, for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes. Oh, that's dope.

Eli Manning, Ocho, will have to wait at least one more year. The two-time Super Bowl win MVP reportedly did not receive enough votes to the election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame is the second year of eligibility. His career, 117 wins, 117 losses, and a substar passing stats to make it touch the job a Hall of Fame resume.

You see? A lot of times people just want to put all the credentials on, oh, he won an MVP. He used a Subbo, Subo, Subo, Subo. Hold on, so this is the second time. He didn't got skipped. Yep. It's tough because, hold on.

Jim Plunkett. One, two Subbo's. He ain't in. Number and overall draft pick in 1970, if I'm not mistaken. Look that up. I think Jim Plunk was 1970. He still not in? I don't think, no, Jim Plunk is not in.

Because I think Archie, I think Archie went second. I think Plunkett was one, Archie was second in 1970. What you're thinking, Ocho? Right call. Eli should be in. He should have to wait. I think it's a right call. It's a right call.

He was drafted first overall. He's going to get in. Yeah. You heard me all? He did. Actually, looking at me talking about, what did he do at 1970? First overall. Didn't Archie go second?

He was 71. Right. So 71 him and Archie. Two. Hold on. How many times did Kurt want to have to wait? Because Kurt is a two-time league MVP, an offensive player of the year,

a Super Bowl MVP, and he had the three most passing yards in Super Bowl history before Tom broke him and he had to wait. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they, listen, they're going to make Eli wait. He's going to get in.

Kurt had to wait. He's going to get it regardless. Yeah, he going to get in. Joe. I don't know. Joe. Like I said, I used to, like I said, after they made D.T. wait five times, I was like, I don't know what the Hall of Fame is.

I don't. I don't. Because they switch it up. Johnny Randall had to wait. I know people look at Johnny's antics and you know him talking trash and him you know grunting and doing all that stuff he was hell

Johnny Randall was hell he was the real deal undersized but Joe he would kick it ass you can go yeah hey hey when y'all got into the league Uncle Ocho was being in the Hall of Fame

ever on y'all mind or just playing playing the game having fun. Boy, shoot, boy. Joe, you see how I played the game? Yo. I wouldn't think of nothing. I wasn't thinking nothing about that jacket, boy. Uncle, would you think about it?

Joe, in 1991, we played in the Hall of Fame game. I went into the Hall of Fame and looked around. Had no idea. 20 years later, I got a bust in there. Yeah. Bro, the seventh-round draft.

Yeah. All I'm trying to do is make a team. I'm just trying to make the team, Joe. You don't think about the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame never came on my radar until Mark Kierzwillard said, hey, at the rate you go in a couple more years like this, you're going to be a Hall of Fame candidate. I say, you think so?

He's like, I know so. That was the first time the Hall of Fame even crossed my mind. That was in like 97. I agree. Hey, because look, when I came in, I just, hey, I wanted to make sure I belong. I wanted to show that I alone that I could play in. NBA. It went until about 15, 14, 15 years when they was like, man, look, you almost had 20, 20,000 points. It ain't but a few guys who got that, man. You might get a chance

to get in there. But I never, I never thought about getting in the Hall of Fame. I think since my career has been over, you know, I thought about it. But while I was playing Uncle Ocho, yeah. Man, it never crossed my mind, bro. I was just out there having fun and enjoying the game. Hold on, Joe. You got a nominee for the Hall of Fame? What? Y'all got nominee this year. Ooh, that's my job. Yeah.

Hey, Ocho. I'm living right, man. I'm living right, man. It's a lot of good things happening for you, boy, over here. You know what about? Hey, Joe, when you get it, when you get it, boy, I'm gonna be there, what? Hey, boy, say less. They don't threaten me with no good time.

Yeah, yeah, I ain't never been to Springfield, man. So I've gone up there. Yeah. Oh, that's what the basketball Hall of Fame at in Springfield? Yeah, Springfield, Massachusetts. Baseball is Coopertown, New York, and obviously football All this are Canton, Ohio. Hey, boy, Joe, I got a soup for that, boy, Joe.

I can't wait, boy. You got something for it. Hey, look, look. I got a soup for that, boy. From the looks of it, it looked like I'm gonna be in the nightcap Hall of Fame too. Yeah, yeah. With me, Joe, there you go.

You see I do it? You see what I said? You see what I said? We don't, hey, we don't create the monster. Don't do that. Hey, let's listen, let's, let's, let's, what y'all want from me? What are you? Come on, man.

Just a little respect. Just a little respect. I'm being respect. I'm just keeping the one hundred. I'm just saying from how things going right now. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

I'm just saying, I don't know what you're going to do, but I'm going to put a stop to this next, the next, the next taping. Let me, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Joe. You getting a little too excited because we, we haven't done ping pong. We haven't played pool. We haven't shot dark. You should, hey, you.

We ain't shot dark. There's so many things we haven't done yet, and you put, you got a little too much dip on your chip to be talking all that. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. All I want. I want to do when at the end of the show when he introduced, I want him to be like, and still. That ain't what happened, Joe.

Hey, oh man, hell no, Joe. Well, hey, Joe, well, okay. Man, this joking here. Hey, Joe, you putting the guy, Hey, Joe, you putting the, you put in the egg before the chicken now. Yeah. You put the egg, you put the car before the horse now. No, no, no.

I see what I'm up again. The cart before the horse. The horse. horse has to pull the cart so he's always going to be in front. No, I said he putting the carriage before the horse. I know the carriage. Yes, you said the carriage or the cart. I said the carriage.

Yes, yes, you're right. Ocho, you got one right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm talking about. I'll be using that sometimes. I mean, normally it's the cart. I mean, people don't say, but we get what you say. You Ocho, so we know.

Horse and carriage. Horse and carry. You know the song. Yeah. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. Not bad. Yeah, Joe. Hey, tighten up.

But your day coming again. Hey. Yeah. I'm locked in. I'm locked in. Don't try, y'all, y'all don't worry about nothing else. Hey, the funny thing about it is don't too many people. Don't too many people out trash talk meat.

And the fact that you keep on egging on like you really like that. I don't like that, Joe. Well, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, oh, Joe, it can't be but one winner out of all us. It can't, it ain't like all us can win and celebrate. So the one who do win, but I ain't do. on a whole lot of talking, Joe. But you acted a fool on the golf joint.

No, he did. He did. You really, you really set me out. You really set me out because you acting a fool on that golf thing. You're acting a fool. Oh, Joe, you're going to test this. Joe, the one that's talking about, oh, yeah,

I already know, I already know I got this one. Before we even started, Joe, that was you. That was you. You said that. Oh, oh, so now y'all double team. No, no, no. No, we know, no. We just go out what D.

Oh, okay. I'm used to that. I'm used to that. I'm used to that. Just know. Hey, just know, when y'all see me, man, I'm always have my A game with me. I'm going to always be locked with me.

I'm going to worry about it. I said, well, Joe, we just got here. I mean, you don't even know the rules of the game. Oh, oh, once I find out what it's going to be, I know y'all can't. Oh, you got too much muscle. And I know, oh, Joe ain't never been on the golf. I said, well, damn, Joe. Yeah.

It's all good. It's all good. Hey, I wasn't too far off now. I wasn't true foul. But what did I tell you when he got the sudden death? I said it's over, John, I don't even one put.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ocho, Ocho, you got to fight back. They don't call me on a palm tree for nothing. Okay, there you go. Joe, you got to understand, Joe. I had on, I had on my clothes to go to dinner, Joe. I see, I see.

You're the only reason. You spit down. Hey, the chance of, I took one put and laid down. I said I'm late I'm tired I'm sitting up look look oh yeah

oh yeah hey y'all yeah y'all yeah y'all yeah you're talking about man uh man uh look like it hurt I won Michael Jordan had the flu how did Michael Jordan look doing the flu

did he not drop 37 yeah he really hey hey you ain't look like you were hurting to me the way you were rolling on the ground all that Look, that's like I didn't do the synopede. Next, what I'm going to do the centipede.

You can't do something. I do a little bit. I might break dance. I got some of yaw. Hey, I might be turbo and boogaloo shrimp. I got some for y'all. What did you got, Ocho? You ain't got nothing for nobody.

Hey, when we get back out there, when we get back out there, okay, I'm ready. I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, y'all going out talk to me, and I'm not. original trans talk. Y'all got a you can't talk if you can't win. Nightcap outside. For you guys that's in the chat that don't know what Ocho and Joe and myself

are talking about, go to Nightcap outside. We had some games. We were the New York at the Lawn Club and, you know, we had some games and you know everybody, you know everybody gets to talking there, I can do this, I can do that. Hey, and we're going to

shoot dice, Ocho. Ooh. Oh. I know y'all want. I want all that. Who are you talking to? Who are you talking to? Hold on. What we talking about?

Silo? We play straight dice. Two dice. Two dice. Yeah, y'all done. Y'all definitely done. Because that's what I do. Hey, Joe, I don't know if you shoot dice.

Don't you shoot dice? Really? I can show you, but I can tell you. I'm trying to hit a lit. And bring you, hey, hold on. We ain't, we ain't, we ain't,

shoot no dice without no money. Okay, bring your money. All right. Bring your money. I need no excuses. No. We don't need a little bank row. We don't need but a thousand.

Whoever had, whoever had the most money, whoever had the most money at the end, that's who win. Okay, there we go. That's our money. You all already do. And I get to win some money.

I get to win some money, I get to win some money, mess with you, boys. Hey, because I already know that Emmett Smith going to break the game up. What number of Emmysmill? That, that, that one,

that game gone. Okay. Because I know, everybody will jump on that 10 or four. Yeah. And little Joe, I'm back though little Joe all day long. Hey, speed limit, the old speed limit, that 55 will break up quick. Because everybody wants to talk about them 10 or fours with both feet.

Hey, y'all doing a whole, yeah. Hey, boy, you boys in trouble. Y'all doing a whole lot of talking for people that are amateurs that shooting dice. That nine? How are you figuring out? Y'all are amateurs that shooting dice. Hey, what Jesse James carried? 45.

Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Don't nobody move with me. Don't nobody move with me. Joe stay right where you are. Ocho, don't try to make anything sudden. Let me get this money right quick. Oh, yeah, this, hey, this here gonna be a layup, fella. Oh no.

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. You all already know my point, my point nine. Now my point. Nine, Nina Ross, Nina Ross, the father. Born and 54, died in 63. What's my point, Joe?

Yeah, all right. Born and 54, died in 63. I would get that jacket above you, Ocho. Hey, keep that same energy. Keep that same energy. Hey, hey, if I could fit that jacket, Ocho head on another day, boy. You can, you can fit it.

You can fit it. You can fit it. You can fit it. You could fit it. It was the X-L. You could fit it. Oh, yeah. I'd have got that up all.

No, okay. But that's okay. Your day coming, no, Joe. Ocho, he can't win nothing else. You see I ain't. Hey, he's not going to win. Matt, man, you know, hey, you know why he's not going to win nothing else?

Because he's doing too much talking now. That's not what he, oh, Joe, that's not what you do. You ain't no talk. Ocho, I really did this for bread and meat, man. If I didn't win, I didn't eat. That's what I'm trying to. You won't eat that. You won't eat that day.

Yeah. You're going to be sitting in the corner. He'll be sitting in the corner. He'll be sitting in the corner, Ocho. Man, let you go a hose something. That's all it takes. It don't take, it don't take me one little thing. just to set me off and see one unc set me off and they go and y'all couldn't turn me off yeah oh oh oh oh oh oh

Tracy bargain your old boy would jose let me give some no no yeah yeah all that talking remember this hey chat we got another we got we got we got another episode we y'all come there you go look at it you see him ocho you see about you i mean i just said they're gonna be entertained they're going to be entertained that's what they're They want to be entertained, guys. This is what we're here for. I got hurt. You got hurt? Hey, boy, when I tell you, when I tell you guys,

my glute almost pulled my glute, fooling with y'all. Hey, hey, chat, I'm going to say one thing. I ain't going to bring it up no more. Uncle Ocho, I'm going to leave it along. But that movie to rip, boy, ain't got nothing on what I did at Uncle Ocho earlier. See, that.

You know what I got that? There you go, see, you see, chat? Hey, you always talk about, man, man, you need to chill on Ocho and ISO. Man, you need to do this. Now, look at, look, look, look, what he doing now? You see what I'm talking about?

Okay. Hey, see what the problem is? We don't create a monster. Oh, duh. We don't create a monster. It's a dropping Tuesday after the Super Bowl, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay. What a perfect timing, boy.

Hey, make me look good, now, make me look good. That's all right, your day coming to Ocho. Yeah, no, your day coming, Joe. Your date, your date been passed. I got another date coming, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ocho, day, been past. But Joe, Joe will get exactly what's coming in him. This show contains information subject to,

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