Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: NFL rule changes, Caleb Williams' biggest challenge, Humble beginnings

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss potential changes to the NFL rule book, what Caleb Williams has to do to win over his future NFL teammates & how Unc's humble beginnings made him who he is today 03:15 - Introduction 06:30 - NFL will not ban ‘Tush Push’ in 2024 season  12:00 - Troy Vincent says NFL should drop hip drop tackle  25:15 - Bears Jaylon Johnson says Caleb Williams “can’t bring that hollywood stuff”  31:00 - Relle joins show and talks about her “no makeup challenge” 34:30 - Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston workout videos go viral  45:30 - Unc talks about when he signed to join Savannah State and humble beginnings 01:00:30 - Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter steals money (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Boy, what's that?'s that baby they can get your boy two of these things wait what what mine at that's it right here oh you got how you hold on first you got my little phone code now you got my plan yeah yeah yeah yeah now what yeah hey hey put this in the chat What should Ocho do to get his 1 million subscriber plaque And his phone code What should Ocho be willing to give up I've been doing it I've been showing up

They sent it to me Well, why didn't they send it to you and you got my address What the hell, I look like the mailman I don't work for amazon pride ups other us mail postal service listen i need my plaque so i can hang my plaque in my room now you know that i need

i need some money that is i need some money to put my bill for man i feel you man listen honestly listen i ain't won many awards in life i haven't won many things in life in general. But that plaque is special to me and I need my plaque ASAP. I need to hang a million subscribers in less than three months.

You won. You just don't have the plaque. Just like you know what you did. You know, it's like self-gratification. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know what I did, but I need the visual representation on what i did hanging in my goddamn room take a picture of that and you can have a visit come on man hey what hey what what color what color is that what color is that you get uh where's the silver oh hold on yeah i need i need that because the silver one? Oh, hold on.

Yeah, I need that. Because the other one was silver. Right. Yeah, I got that one hanging up. You get this one for silver, this one for gold. Yeah. What's the next one? What's the next color? I don't know, but you got to get 10 million subs before you get that.

Okay, okay. We're going to get there. Diamond? Okay, we're going to get to 10 million subs before you get that. Okay, okay. We're going to get there. Diamond? Okay, we're going to get to 10 million. I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to get to 10 million. That thing look good, too. I feel very fortunate and blessed because I have two

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Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You can keep it. Thank you. Listen, I ain't giving up. I make my own goddamn plan, but I ain't giving up McDonald's. You can't make good luck. Let's see you replicate that plan.

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Ocho, let's jump right into it. Our first segment of the night is a news cap. The NFL will not propose a ban. The Tush will not propose ban for the Tush Plus in 2024. NFL executive Troy Vinson reiterated today that the Tush Plus will remain in legal play for the 2024 season. Is it best to say, let's just leave it alone. Somebody stop it. Yeah.

Yeah, that's all. Somebody stop it. Because if you think about it, there's only one team that's very efficient at the tush push anyway, and that's the Eagles. Right. They're the only team that seem to be able to get it. So teams need to figure out a way to stop the tush push or don't allow them to have short distance.

You stop them on first and second. You won't have to worry about third and one. You won't have to worry about fourth and one. But listen, they're the only team that are really good at it. There's no need to stop it. It's a part of the game. It's a part of the game. It's a part of football. If we start making rules to stop some of the small nuances that other teams struggle to stop,

then they're going to start nitpicking and finding other ways to stop other plays that people do as well. It ain't that big of a deal. I understand why people—because, Ocho, before, you couldn't aid the runner, which means you couldn't push him. Now they say you can push him, you just can't pull him. You remember before, the guy would get close to the end zone, his offensive lineman would pull him. And the lineman would pull him in. You can't do that, but you can get behind him and shove him.

And so that's basically what the tush push is. But Jalen Hurts squats 600 pounds. He has tremendous leg drive. The offensive lineman, they get low, and then sometimes he hits the hole right behind the center or the A gap. Sometimes he goes a little further off, and he has somebody in behind him that's giving him a shove. So I agree with you, Ocho.

I think teams need to come up with a way to try and stop it. Good luck with that because Jalen Hurts has such leg drive that is really hard for teams to stop it. They've done a great job. They've mastered it. They were the first team that we saw do this. They've gotten really, really good at it. We've seen a lot of teams try to replicate it, but none of them

to the success of what this Josh Allen is about to close up, but Josh Allen is 6'5", 255 pounds. Good luck trying to stop that, but Josh Allen is 6'5", 255 pounds. 50 pounds, yeah. So good luck trying to stop that. But I think they're going to leave it alone. I mean, they've tried this, what, the third year in a row?

That they've had discussions about stopping it, and they haven't come up with it. They haven't said, no, we're going to leave it in one more year. Listen, it's part of the game, man. It's part of the game. It's football. And defensively, you just listen. Crowd the box. Crowd the game, man. It's part of the game. It's football. And defensively, you just listen. Crowd the box.

Crowd the box even more. Shoulder pad is shoulder pad. Low man wins. Leverage. That's all it is. You just got to fire off. And then guess what happens? Now they low man.

They fake it into the line and pop up. They throw the pass down the field. But let me ask you a question. There you go. With Jason Kelsey retiring, the all-pro center, the all-world center for the Eagles, will it still be to have the same effectiveness? You know what? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure there will be somewhat of a drop-off with Jason Kelsey leaving and another center coming in. But obviously, you got to learn the technique. You got to learn the technique to keep the show going. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, he was so good at getting low and uh you know crawling and rooting people up out of there getting because the first you can't your center can't get stymie because if he gets stymie where does

the quarterback go so he has to get some exactly backwards exactly so he has to get some momentum he did a great job of that and the only thing you can do is try to guess the snap count, try to jump the snap. But then that's when they get you outside and they get a free five yards. And so you don't even have to use the touch push. It's a very difficult play to stop. The Eagles have done a great job of the technique. Clearly it's something that you can tell kind of like a rugby scrum that

they've mastered in which they get the low man wins, and they know the snap count. So kudos for them for coming up with something, but I'm glad they don't stop this play because somebody's going to say, well, you know what? Hey, Patrick Mahomes throwing for 10 touchdowns on this one play. We can't let them do that. So where do we stop? You've got to draw the line at some point.

You have to draw the line at some point. They've already handicapped the game enough. let's let's slow it down they about to have they about to have that uh uh about to handicap the game again nfl evp troy vincent also reiterated the hip drop tackle is something we want to get out of our game he added the greatest asset for any athlete is durability and availability when you have a play that has 25 20 to 25 times the injury rate it doesn't allow you to fulfill your dream now i told you this oh cho i said oh they gonna get that up out of there i said because the injury is too great you rarely see somebody get that tackle and come back the same the next play they always limp off the field we've seen tony

paula get injured we've seen patrick mahomes get injured that play we've seen so many guys that prescott got injury with the hip uh hip uh drop tackle uh i just knew because the high rate of injury that they were gonna do something with it yeah most definitely i knew you were right obviously i think one of the things i think about i'm just thinking about physics the laws of gravity if you have someone pulling you down i would just go with the fall now that's the way to counter it if they didn't if they didn't ban the hip drop tackle if you feel that pressure just let it go when you try to fight it when you try to continue to get more yards after but again it's a great call for

them i mean for troy vincent and nflb competition committee competition committee excuse me to ban the hip drop tackle because a lot of players for one have gotten hurt some have recovered patrick holmes obviously leading the team yeah took it to the team super but he did have a bad ankle yeah he had a bad ankle right off of that drop tackle. But again, it's a good thing for the defenders. The defenders now, you're going to have to be a little bit more disciplined on your angles

when you tackle now. If somebody's getting away from you, I think it's an advantage for the offensive players as well because as you tend to break away, if you're a little bit faster than the person that's chasing you, damn they're gonna have to just let you go he's gonna have to let you go even if he's an arm right if he's an arm's length to be able to reach and grab now you can't i think if you think about it oh sure i think the thing what happened is is

that they've seen this when i don't remember this now it might have happened because i was looking at a tackle i do remember the horse collar tackle happening but there was not a whole lot this this play has come in say heavily like the last five years this wasn't in there when you first got to the league you didn't see a whole lot of tackles like this ocho i don't remember seeing a whole lot of tackles when i got into the league and even when I was exited at the end of 2003 but over the last five years you see you've seen a guy and Ocho I knew that I could put my helmet on a guy and meet a certain way that I could injure it I know that you know what's going to happen when you when you drop all your weight two thirds two uh if you're a DB, whatever your weight is, 180 to 205. If you're a linebacker, you two thirds into 250, you drop all your dead weight on a man that's standing upright.

You already know what's going to happen. To get him down. Yep. That's what I said. The only counter offensively for players. I mean, if you're smart and you feel the force of someone with their weight on you, it's just go with it. Just flow with it and it'll prevent injury. But again, this is the right call by the NFL committee and the competition committee and Troy Vincent. But again, defensive players, again, yet again, are at a disadvantage. Well, what they've said is that in-game scoring, game-to-game scoring has dropped the last three seasons. They want to see an uptick in that. That's why

they instituted the rules to begin with. The defenseless receiver, the quarterback, not hitting the defenseless quarterback, driving the quarterback into the turf, incidental contact. They won't score.

The fans have already spoken. As much as they say, oh, it's flag football, you love that. You love the 35-38 ballgame. You love the 41-38 ballgame. You love the overtime ballgame that ends 31-28. You got tired of the 10-7s. You got tired of that. You got tired of 7-6s. You got tired of that. You got tired of seven six.

It's just like baseball. Oh, the purists like a game to one, but the fans, the purists, they're not enough purists that was going to the game that was watching the game. So they wanted to see a nine,

eight ball game in baseball. They wanted, they want to see, they want to see the home runs basketball. You see what they did? They made the lottery. They spaced the floor. Now the three-point shot, and now teams are getting up and down the court.

And you see them 130, 138 to 135, 141 to 130. There was a game a couple of weeks, a couple of months ago, 153 to 151. That's what fans like to see. And I'm not lying. I don't want to see, if I go to a basketball game, I don't want to see no damn 78 to 71. Well, I have a question. If we have teams in basketball

scoring at such a high rate, does that mean there's a lack of defense as well? It is a lack of defense, but the rules, they call I think they call a little bit more ticket tax. Gil was saying that the hand check, they stopped the hand check. But he said the hand check has always been banned below the free throw line.

But back in the 80s and 90s, they arm bar you. They're like, no, you ain't backing me down. But fans like scoring, no matter what the sport is, be it hockey, soccer, baseball, basketball, football, people like scoring. They know what that is. The ball goes into the net or somebody crossed the end zone, Ocho, they know what that is.

That's universal. Yeah, yeah. I don't know who it was. Hey, got Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift said, yes, yes. We winning. Who is we? I don't know don't know but somebody's right everybody else standing up i'm standing up too so uh that's what we're gonna have so the tush push stays at least for another year and tory visit reiterates that something has to happen with the hip drop tackle so i'm not gonna going to be surprised if that's going to be a penalty,

and you could imagine a fine that's coming with that. That's going to be a 30. Even a first defense fine, Ocho, is going to probably be somewhere around 30,000. Yeah, most definitely. Obviously, it's 15 yards if you have to execute the hip drop tackle to make a play. But also, I think the fine, I think

it'll start off at $5,000. Oh, no. I think it'll start off at $5,000. No, you don't think so? Because the horse collar tackle is about $25,000. What's the flag? Can we look that up real quick, Ash? Damn. Oh, yeah. I'm going to help Ash look it up, too. Oh, no, no, no. Hell

no. Hold on. $25,000, $30,000. Hell no. Hold on. Twenty twenty five. Thirty thousand for a first offense. Yeah, I'm shit. I'm had. I'm had to peel that. I'm had to peel last.

We need to work some out. What you got? Apple or orange? Because that's the only thing you're going to peel. You ain't going to get that. Hey, well, I did. I give him a check post uh post date post date don't cash it yet uh 16 16 304 first offense okay okay okay i mean with the money they making today that's not bad i'm stuck in my time that's why I'm still thinking first offense is going to be $5,000. Hell nah. They done went up.

Hell yeah. Nah, hell nah. I mean, bro, what you thought of? Bro, you've been retired a decade. You keep telling that the cost of living keep increasing. Yeah, keep increasing cost of living the cost of living keep increasing

yeah keep increasing right right right oh so so so does the fine money okay okay that's why i said it but the money they making today okay you're right you're right you're right hey the fact that what i've been retired a whole decade what you did it don't it don't even feel like you did you play in 2013 you've been you've been gone a decade at least right god damn because you came in in 2001 you say you played I came in in 2000

yeah yeah what was your last year in the league shoot 2011 I played in Canada and I played in Mexico 2011 was your last year so yeah you've been gone a decade 2011. I mean, which one? Because I played in Canada and I played in Mexico. 2011 was your last year. So, yeah,

you've been gone a decade. Golly, man. You know what's funny? Yeah, I bought a decade. Yeah, 2011 was your last year. So, you've been gone by 13 years, bro. Because I've been gone two decades. Damn. And you know what's funny about that? I've been gone for

a decade and i can still play madden no i ain't talking about madden like i can still go out there and play right now because i'm in such elite shape still because i just never know when that call might come i never know i i stay ready because if you stay ready you ain't got to get ready shapes pear eggs those are shapes uh-huh you ain't taking to get ready. Apple are shapes. Pear. Eggs. Those are shapes. Your spidey senses don't tingle anymore because they've been down too long.

No, they ain't been down because I've been doing other things to keep them things intact. My spidey senses is on point. When's the last time you played a football game? Oh, two days ago. 2011. 2011. Oh, no. I play play rugby that's a different type despite it says hey that's a different that's a different type of wait hold on you tell you just told our chat early in the season you get in shape for football by playing football now you say

you sharpen your senses doing other things right yeah you listen stay with me now there's a way to work on all your senses without actually having to play the game there are other things that can substitute and keep your spidey senses intact that's something that i've always done just in case listen i would never play football again but i'm just playing i'm just saying in general, I do other things that give me that same adrenaline rush, that same unknown, the same butterflies. Yeah, a roller coaster called riding a roller coaster. Yeah, that's my life.

You took the words right out of my mouth. A roller coaster. Boxing. Playing tennis. Like doing things, but at somewhat of a high level, as high as I can get. And it can keep my, it keep my senses going. How do you, how do you heighten your sense of taste without tasting? I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company,

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little tart, little twang to it, but go ahead. Go ahead. I already know, but before rail came along, you know, you,

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let me put my hair and wrist back on man let me put my hair let me put my hair and wrist back on and move this conversation along man

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My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Hollywood stuff into the building, especially now with guys who play this game. I thought I had a high level for four consecutive years in the league. It's just something that guys like myself, guys like Jermaine, TJ. I mean, just the vets now, Keenan Allen.

I mean, you just add certain guys in the locker room. I'm like, you know, we're going to see through. And it's like, no, that what you did in college, the Hollywood. It's like, no, that you got to prove yourself. Come on, Jalen. I mean, look, come on, Jalen. You can't stereotype the man cause he went to USC, baby. I mean, you got the, you got the Jalen, you got to know, you got to know Caleb Williams personally before you make the assumption that

he is Hollywood. I understand that's where he played. He played at USC, but he's given me no reason to think that he's coming to the NFL with his old Hollywood approach, you know, but I, I don't, I don't think it's a slight on Caleb Williams. I understand what Jalen Johnson is talking about. Just coming in being yourself, you know, and just, just playing ball doing what you did at USC, but at the highest level, I just, Jalen, you gotta get, get a man a chance. Get a man a chance. Let him come in.

That's your quarterback. That's your leader. I don't think we're trying to be rude or be mean because I don't think he knows Caleb Williams personally to make that assumption that he's Hollywood based off the school he went to. What's understood

doesn't need to be spoken. We understand everybody who come in there has to earn his spoken. We understand everyone who comes in has to earn his stripes. We didn't say anything, but you better believe if you won an award, we want to see why you won that award. Be it Buck, be it the Heisman, be it the Thorpe, be it the Mackey,

it didn't matter. We needed to see when we got to camp and we put those fans on why he won that award. There was nothing need to be said. What's There's nothing need to be said. What's understood doesn't need to be said. So I think Caleb, I don't,

like I said, I don't know Caleb. I know who he is. I don't know him from a can of pain, but I think he comes in there with the right attitude showing that, okay, yes, I'm a rookie.

I'm going to have to earn being number one. That don't make you the leader. Now you're going to have to commit because you're going to have to earn being number one. That don't make you the leader. Now you're going to have to commit because you're going to have to convince a lot of those guys that have been in the league five years, seven years, eight years, nine years, 10 years that you can lead them. Yeah. That's what you're going to, that's what you're going to have to convince. That's why it's so important for the quarterback to be, because he's the guy that you're going to be asking to

lead your offense man and a lot of times the quarterback for the most part is probably one of the youngest especially in today's time because today we ain't got no 13 14 year quarterbacks in the league not many not many right and so uh i get what jaylen johnson is saying but i agree with you you got to give the man the benefit of the doubt until he shows you otherwise. Then you can say, hey, bro, pull him to the sides. Hey, bro. Hey, hey, that there in Hollywood,

that what you do, what you did to USC. Yeah, that ain't gonna cut it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the funny thing about it is even when you say what he did at USC, I have seen nothing. That would say, you know what? God I have seen nothing that would say,

you know what? Goddamn, man. His mannerism, the way he act. Oh, man, he Hollywood. All I can base stuff off of is what the fuck I saw on film. And if I were Jalen Johnson, hell, if I was goddamn Keenan Allen or a receiver on that goddamn team, oh, man, I'm hyped because I understand what I got at the helm that's getting ready to lead us.

Oh, man. And listen, Buddy is the real deal. We talk about an immense talent. We talk about a generational hype because i understand what i got at the helm that's getting ready to lead us oh man and listen buddy is the real deal we talk about an immense talent we talk about a generational talent if if the bears organization do what they need to do to make sure they don't fail this young kid like they've done the rest of the quarterbacks that have come through that organization i think the thing is is that you look and it's being reported that his last two years at USC, he made north of $10 million in NIL. Right. He got, you know why? Because he's that boy.

Yes. And so you look like, oh, bro, you drive around Hollywood and you got a Lambo or Ferrari and you know, you got all these deals. Bro, don't come in here with that because you start from scratch. Okay. Because what we ask, you got to do whatever, whatever check mark you had at college we're gonna leave that there yeah yeah started yeah you start from you start over you start new yeah that's a that's supposedly how we do in a relationship right oh no matter what yeah whatever whatever she heard about you whatever you heard about her yeah we decided to come together we started a new yeah that was a new me new year new me every time then i then i told i told real

hey listen put a band-aid on when you come to me you better come here yeah yeah come to me come come here honey i ain't got time to play but But listen, goddamn. Listen, chat. Y'all excuse me. What I'm about to say. I have a feeling. Based on the talent that Caleb Williams is, that he can have the same effect on the Bears organization. The city of Chicago. The same way Patrick Holmes had him the Kansas City Chiefs. If they do right by him in building around that young fella, man.

He's different. He's a phenomenal... Come here, come here. He's a phenomenal talent. Look at my Caleb Williams. I'm doing a no-makeup challenge. Get out of the way, Ochoa. Let Rail sit down right quick.

I'm taking overnight care. What's going on? What's good, Rail? How you feeling today? I'm taking overnight care. What's going on? What's good, Ray? How you feeling today? I'm feeling amazing. The chat said we need you to feel. We need to have you on a couple of times a week sitting in. I'm ready.

You just got to send me my notes so I can be prepared. I'm going to let Chad take over today, but I can't embarrass myself because I heard my baby. What made you decide that you wanted to go makeup free for the next several days or for weeks or however long you want to do this challenge? Honestly, I'm joking. I just did it because Carisha has a song that's coming out. It's no makeup, no filter challenge. You're pretty with no makeup. So I just did it on TikTok and she just reposted it. But I feel I hate wearing makeup.

Oh, do you? Man, hey, hey, hey. P.D.D. Get out of this. Get real, moment. I feel like makeup at 10 years old. Really? Mm-hmm.

See, I look good. Don't be no hater.'t be hated he over here hating he trying to take away my shine what he's saying you need makeup no he didn't say that but he's just hating right uh oh so get your hand off your hips man get your head off your hips get out of camera man the real moment let the chance be real shine man who man who you who you paying you get out of camera man it's a real moment let the chancey rail shine man who you paying you paying me or her man come on man

we about to break cut rail a check too that's right but I'm serious makeup it just it does too much put it on take it off and men don't like women with a lot of it but there's someone put too much on, though, Rhea.

I mean, some of them... And I have breakfast. Yeah, some of them have it like you spread that on, but they use the butter knife to put that makeup on. I mean, that's too much. I mean, you know, it was kind of like when you were in high school or college and you kissed a girl and the whole side of your face was like... Or when you hug

and rub off on your clothes. Yeah, man. Oh, you playing for this dry cleaning. Alright. It's good talking to you. Alright, man. Have a good one. I love y'all. Oh, man. Yeah.

Man, you got her stealing my shine and taking my show a show man it's bad enough i everywhere i go in public now they talk about hey boy ain't you ain't you do that day real i'm like come on man stop trying me man yeah we got we got to say listen we got to simmer down on that man we got to simmer down she can't be like it's like like it's like nah but i'm just saying they be embarrassed i mean like in public they be disrespecting me like ain't you do what you mean man you know my name chad man what you mean ain't you the dude come on man come on man we got to slow down no more no more she ain't she ain't

good she ain't coming on this shit no fuck well we'll get real we're gonna say rail a camera rail gonna be another room while you in one room rail another pop up on the screen nah nah because now she's getting a little bit more more attention than i am and that's putting me on the back burner you okay rail hold up oh joe don't you want your woman to shine yeah i want her to shine but how her light gonna be brighter than mine what it is i'm i'm supposed to be leading i'm supposed to be leading how i'm supposed to be leading. How am I going to lead if she's driving? Well, right now, you're in eclipse right now. I mean, dark as you is, you know. That's all that is.

Man. So check this out, Ocho. Yeah. Russell Wilson released a new workout video. New team, new workout. Yeah. From Russ. Yeah.

This one showed him working on his footwork while wearing sunglasses, which led to lots of jokes from NFL fans. Jameis Winston also posted a video of him taking snaps on the center in a full suit. Ocho, why do guys feel they need to post their videos, their workout videos? Ain't nothing wrong with that. I like it. I like the fact that he's posting his workouts, letting people know he's locked in and staying on top of what he needs to do.

Technique, basic basic fundamentals dropping back pocket moving pocket presence throwing the ball staying on point so when he does get to camp i'm sure russell wasn't gonna hit the offseason program he gonna hit the offseason program running letting the boys know listen i'm coming here to lead us till you know where that makes your way in contention i like that they're posting this to let people know what he's doing and that he's not just... Are you doing it for people or are you doing it for you? Well, listen, it's the same thing. When I was playing, I didn't have access to social media, but I uploaded videos to YouTube of myself working,

A.B. Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, like all stuff you can see. So this is what they do today in today's era of this, you know, during the social media era, you know, you upload some of the stuff you're doing and it lets people into your life outside of the game of football. You don't, you don't like it. No. I mean, to each his own.

I mean, that's, I mean, like you said, this is where we are now. Ocho guys uploading a lot of their workout stuff. I don't really have a problem with it. Hey, look at Seamus. Look at Se look at this okay so what's this on joe hey jamis jamis jamis working on his snap hey but he in a full trench coat hey jamis dressed like colombo jamis dressed like colombo get hey listen i love dude man i want you know i want to james understand or does he even realize how unintentionally funny he is i i don't like he's funny without even trying to be funny i mean oh man come on with this right here you know the kind of reaction that you were gonna get yeah yeah

it'll be like you out there catching footballs in a tuxedo. You know the reaction that you're going to get. So to say, well, I ain't know. You knew. Yeah, I mean, it's a good one. It's nothing bad. You know, he's just getting a feel for the pigskin. You know, it's been a long time. He just signed with the Browns.

You know, let me touch it a little bit. Let me touch it a little bit. You know, get that snap. How many snaps are you going to take in a top coat? None. None. you know get that snap and how many that is how many snaps you're gonna take it how many snaps you're gonna take in a top coat none none but i i would hate for him to have to put on some browns gear just to take one snap you know ain't nothing wrong it's like you right but he was there to sign his contract so he ain't gonna be in shorts and t-shirts so he did sign his contract somehow he found the center in the weight room say hey, hey, let your boy get some snaps. Listen, I guarantee you that was the first time him and the center met, and the center might

have been out working on some snaps and say, man, let me snap one thing for you real quick. Let me get a feel for how it's going to be. Ain't nothing wrong with that. It's just different now, Ocho. I just think sometimes I think guys, it's more for

show than... yeah sometimes i think guys it's more for for for for show then yeah i mean ain't nothing wrong with it see you you are a little bit more closed off in general with your personal life and your public life so i think you're one who really doesn't see the reason for posting any and everything and i i kind of like it like i want to see what the receivers are doing in the offseason justin jefferson chase the db sauce garden all them boys i want to see videos because hell i'm gonna be joining them i'm gonna be joining them in the offseason to train somebody tweeted i love you kyle but running uh somebody tweeted about four hours ago i love you kyle but running. Somebody tweeted about four hours ago.

I love you, Kyle, but running and throwing in shorts or catching passes is pointless when the only thing that matters is what you put on film. Everybody looks good in shorts on air against no competition. Who tweeted? Right. That was me. That was me. That was me.

So how the hell? Whoa, whoa, whoa. That was about Marvin Harrison Jr. working out at a pro day in front of nfl scouts when the nfl scouts have three years worth of footage of him at ohio state where it makes no sense what he has to do russell wilson thorn did you have a pro day with me did you have a pro day i wasn't marvin harrison Jr. coming out either. I'm just asking you a question. Yes, I had a pro day. I was also a one-for-one, so I had no choice but to show up for the pro day. What do you mean you were one-for-one?

I only was on a Division I level for one year. You forgot the road? I took the long road. I mean, they saw you at Santa Monica. No, they didn't see me, but I wasn't nobody there. I mean, listen, I made my grand entrance at Oregon State. I got there and I got there in August and I was going to December. Four months. That's that's all I had. My back was against the wall. So I had no choice but to go and do what I need to do in front of you folks and let them know.

Listen, I might have bounced around from school to school. I might have got thrown out from school to school. My grades might have might not have been what they should to be at a four-year institution but there's one thing i can do i can play some motherfucking ball i can play some ball so i had to showcase that when it comes to marvin harrison jr there is nothing that he has to showcase on his pro day or at the nfl combine because there's enough film which is the only thing that matters not what he does in goddamn shorts and shirt i think the thing you have they had classroom on the football field you might have been good so they should have had about 50 chairs in the class on the football field i think yeah oh listen when

i listen when i when i was in school i was i was brilliant i was a 4.0 student the problem was you couldn't get me to go to class because I was worried about playing football. That was my issue. My grandma always told me, boy, listen, listen, stop focusing on football and get your goddamn education because if football doesn't work out, you got to have something to fall back on. And what you think my hard head, my hard head ass did? Yeah. Focus, focus on football, focus on football, focus on football, focus on football, get in get in trouble fighting here fight

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Look, I took a different approach than you, Ocho. I looked at like, okay, I'm here at college. Hell, I might as well get a degree. I'm going to be here four years. Nobody was going early. I think my year was the first year that guys started really leaving early. You know, Emmitt, Lamar Latham. We had several guys that left early.

I mean, they were high draft picks. But for the most part, you stayed four years. And I didn't want to be one of those guys that i was further away from graduation when i left after four years than what i was when i got there four years earlier so i was like okay okay i'm gonna get this degree uh because people didn't think i could do a lot of people didn't think i could do it i know i could do it i just needed to apply myself i bulljab around you know i'm saying i wanted to be the class clown. I wanted to be funny. And plus, I was a superior athlete to everyone else. I was like, hey, somebody

going to give me an opportunity. It might not be where I want to go, but somebody going to give me a chance because the football skill, the basketball skill, the track skill is too great for somebody to say, nah, he can't do nothing for our university. So it was a battle state. Coach Davis, Bill Davis, rest his soul.

He's like, son, I'm going to be honest with you. If I was drafted and I had the number one pick of all the kids that's coming out of college, I'd take you number one. I like that. I like that. I was gone. He couldn't come

in the house though. We had that conversation in the driveway because when I told him I was going to He couldn't come in the house, though. You know, we had that conversation in the driveway. Because when I told him I was going to sign with him, obviously, you know, it was like three weeks, Ocho, before we had to go to camp. So I was just sitting around like, okay. I'm like, man, I'm going to go to the Air Force. My brother called me.

He came down, talked to me, said, does Savannah State still have that scholarship for you? I said, yeah, Coach Davis said, anytime I need it, if I wanted a scholarship, he would take me. He said, well, call Coach Davis and tell him you're coming. Go for a year. And if you don't like it, say I went for a year, you know, college. It wasn't for me.

I called Coach Davis. It had to be like 930 that night. I said, Coach, I want to come to Savannah State. He said, all right, home, God dang. I'm going to put my clothes on. I'm coming down. I said, nah, Coach, I'm good. He said, hell nah, son. Somebody else going to come down there and sign you under me. I said, Coach, I give you my

word. I'm going to sign with Savannah State. Man, Coach, you got my house by 8 o'clock in the morning. I had went out. I had went out the night before Ocho, and I had some money in my pocket. I was like, damn, I done lost my money. Come to find out the money was in the yard.

Wait, hold on. How much you had? $48, $50. But you know that's a lot of money back in 1986. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially in my circumstances. So Coach Davis came. He said, son, I appreciate this. I'm going to take care of you.

My grandma never came out the house he just ate and that's kind of that's kind of how she handled the loco you know stuff like that i remember what i got when uh my homeboy ricky thomas he went to the same school he was my quarterback in high school he went to the same school that i went that he went to savannah state and i remember he blew the horn that uh that august was heading down there my grandmother was in the bed my grandma ain't never get up ain't never got out of the bed she ain't hey because she felt she hadn't done all she could in 18 years giving me another five ten minutes speech before i walked out the door she said it wasn't gonna do no good now

that's a good one i walked out out of the house I left as a boy remember looking back at the house I knew what I was leaving behind and I knew what the mission was Ocho when I got in that car it's just like okay

go get it done okay go get it done now go get it done see you was locked in it took me to understand what the mission was after I hit my goddamn head and fell multiple times at Langston first year at Santa Monica got myself

together the following year where I was ineligible I had to get my grades right then it hit me like, Hey man, boy, that window of opportunity is by this big. Either you get it done that or the chances in your childhood dreams are down the drain.

And I locked in and I did it my grandma way for the first time. And the first time I actually listen to what she had to say, listen to what she had to say. Look what the hell happened oh joe i tell my kids all the time i say sometimes you have to bump your own head to realize how much it hurts see me telling you i did something similar and bump my head you didn't feel it so sometimes my grandma said boy sometimes you gotta bump your own head because we can do all we can to protect them. Give them they have access to things we never had access to.

Yeah. But at the end of the day, they're going to have to fall down and skin their own knees. You got me. You got stuff on your shins, your knees from falling down as a child. Things that we try to protect our own kids from. So think about it, Ocho, what you try to do. You try to protect your kids from all of that. Blow it in. It's going to be okay. Don't cry. Yeah. My grandma ain't never said that one time. Okay, it's going to be

okay, but my grandma ain't blow nothing. Put some alcohol on it. Now, so now I'm screaming. You know, you don't see nothing. You don't see nothing but white meat, and she pouring alcohol on it i have now so now i'm screaming you know you don't see that you'll see number white me and she poured alcohol right i'm like what oh so and that that that was the thing and so for me ocho i didn't want to let her down because she had done everything that she possibly could to raise her nine and my mom's three and so i knew when she didn't get up out of that bed and say son now remember don't drink son stay don't get out go out late son iron your clothes

in the morning son be respectful i knew when she didn't give me that speech because he had been giving me that speech for 18 years he said man 10 more minutes ain't gonna do nothing for him either he got it or he don't he don't yeah i like that i was different i was i was never the same i was never the same mojo when i left that house i was a i was a different person and i remember my my brother my brother's like he he could see it he my sister would tell you i was i was a different person i wasn't the same i never I was never that same person that left Rock 4 Box 385 on that August day in 1986.

Even when I came back a month or two later when we had a bye week, I wasn't the same. There was a focus. Ocho, there was a focus. I couldn't believe because now I go from showering morning, night, I would shower before I go to practice.

I would shower after practice. I would shower because, you know, we're practicing twice a day. So I'm going three showers a day, going to the bathroom inside. I come home, guess what? Got to wash in a tub. Got to go back to the, you know, got to go back to the woods to go to the bathroom again. You can use the bathroom, yeah, yeah.

And now I'm thinking to myself, how many of my teammates have ever had to go to the bathroom in the woods? Ocho, I'm 18. Ocho, I'm 19. Ocho, I'm 20 years old. Going to the bathroom in the woods. I'm still taking a shower in a foot tub. Warming the water up. I mean, when I would work work we put water in a number two

wash tub i don't know if anybody from the country you can google it look up a number two wash tub we i would put water in the wash tub when i was working so i come home at noon we got an hour to eat i would put water in the wash tub and leave it in the sun so the sun would heat it up so that's my warm water when i come on when i get off work to take a bath in. So I'm taking a bath in a wash tub. Yeah, yeah. I'm drawing water. So we're drawing water out of a well. We got a well, Ocho. I'm talking about

this 1986, 1987, 1988, 1988. My brother went pro in 88. So I'm drawing water. We drinking water from a well. I'm drawing my water to putting the sun out of a spigot to take a bath in. Now, many times my brother would take a bath first. We use that same water. Yeah, yeah. I would take a bath first. I use that same water.

So I remember going home after being at Savannah State and and showering three times a day going to the bathroom anytime i want to and i have to worry about grabbing bug spray the spray around me because the mosquitoes tearing me up or it's cold at night and i got a big old jacket on and i'm out there in the woods going to the bathroom i mean i say this ain't for me listen you know you know it's funny you got you got you got people at times that come from different circumstances but i think your focus was a little bit different because of you you coming from humble beginnings obviously your grandma and and what she instilled in you you know throughout your tenure as an adolescent. But then when you get to somewhere like Savannah State, you have an appreciation for the atmosphere and the amenities that you never really had before.

So your focus was just different because of the access that you had once you got to college. And, you know, you weren't going back to that. You weren't going back. So it made it even that much easier for you to focus as opposed to somebody that comes from a silver spoon in their mouth absolutely and they wouldn't really appreciate they wouldn't they wouldn't really appreciate being away from home and college because it's

something that you've always got throughout your whole life oh yeah oh and i remember ocho and all my i think i had one friend uh stacy my homeboy his birthday mine is the 26th of june he is the 27th he was the only person that's ever been inside my house that was a friend because we didn't have no indoor plumbing we didn't have no running water so if somebody had to go use the bathroom you know you'd have to tell them a lie well you know the toilet broke you're gonna have to go outside so bad so for me ocho that was i couldn't i couldn't, I couldn't see myself, my sister's age, my grandmother's age, having to go to the woods to continue to go to the bathroom. My grandma in her 40s, in her 50s, hello, Granny. And so that was 86.

Granny was born in 23. So, you know, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That wasn't going to work for me. That wasn't going to work for me, Ocho. And eating what we ate, you know, see, I remember, see,

and people say, you lying. Ask my brother. I remember we had a, I grew up on a farm. So my grandfather would go get, go to the grocery stores. you know the rotten fruit, it got a rotten spot on it. They throwing that, all the bananas they got

that's partially rotten, they throw that in the thing. So my grandfather would throw it away? Yes, yes. Oh, nah, let me get them. Let me get them. Let me get it.

Man, let me get them. You don't know, Ocho. So we had hogs. So my grandfather was getting the cabbage and the stuff, all the produce for the hogs. I jump in the needy mud. See, when people say needy, I'll be in the needy room.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. That's where the term comes from. I'm with you. I'll be in that needy mud. I'll say, hogs, you're not going to get these apples. You're not going to get these grapes. Man, I go over there and get apples, get grapes, get bananas,

cut the brown spot off and eat it. Wash it off. Eat it, yeah. Yeah. So that was my thought process. I said, Lord, if I'm fortunate enough and I have kids, my kids couldn't live like this. I said, my kids ain't built like I'm built.

They can't live like this i say my kids ain't built like i'm built they can't live they couldn't stay in one hour let alone a day or a month or a year in my life so i mean that that's the whole point when you do have kids you always want to make life easier for them so they don't have to go through the things you went through because i don't think the kids in our era would be able to survive in the past and based on what we had to go through it's it's different it's different so many different rules are inclined to appease them as opposed to one small rule being either being able to discipline your child you can't even do that anymore you can't you can't oh joe you can't man listen it was a day it was a time i know you i don't i'm not sure how it was for you from but i know where i'm from now if your parents if your mama if your parents ain't home my grandma

my granddaddy wasn't there and i messed up and i did somebody had no business all the neighbors had the right to beat my ass oh yeah And then when they get home and the neighbors tell my grandma and my granddaddy what I did, I get my ass beat again. You have community ass whippings. Oh, yeah. Because it took a village. That was my grandma's favorite line. It takes a village. And we're going to make

sure if you mess up, I want y'all to make sure y'all beat his ass. And when he get to me, I'm going to beat him again. That's exactly how it was. Oh, Joe. Um, there was a fake level for all the people,

all the adults in the community, uh, all that sassing and talking back. You don't tell me what to do. Uh, I don't remember. Oh, Oh,

you don't, my mama, you don't tell me what to do, man. They tear you up and say, boy, Hey Mary, you know,

I had to cut that boy tail. He was up there sassing. He was doing this. Listen, do you see some of them clips with them kids talking back? I would have never made it. You already know what I'm talking about. Talking back to their mama.

Talking back to their grandma. I don't feel like it. I don't want to get off the game. Man, shit. Man. You can be in there watching TV, Ocho. My girl will say, y'all get outside and play. We're watching TV. Shit.

Hey. It wasn't no... Hey, it was hot out there. Ocho, we used to try to play basketball and we were playing basketball in the summer. Woo, boy, it's too hot. Y'all going to have a stroke. Come out there. I remember, we used to try to play basketball. We were playing basketball in the summer. Woo, boy, it's too hot. Y'all gonna have a stroke. Come out there. Soon as the man come back from the truck to go in the field,

all right, boy, he here. If it's too hot to play basketball, but it's not too hot to work in the fields. I'm looking at Spanky, looking at me, that's my brother. We're looking at our cousin. Now, you just told us it's too hot to play basketball, but it ain't too hot to go in that 100 degree hey time time we hit the back of that pickup truck you know dragging our feet uh i don't know you to have but we dragging our feet on the

road all right boys y'all be careful but don't show those with the time though hard times make tough men. Tough men make weak kids. Now, people in the chat, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Ocho, the Dodgers fired Shohei Ohtani's interpreter over claims of massive theft. Shohei Ohtani's interpreter, I'm not going to try to say his name, has been accused of stealing $4.5 million from Otani to pay down gambling debts from a California bookie who, the wire transfer came to light

because the FBI was investigating a man named Matthew Bauer for running an illicit bookmaking scheme and Otani's name surfaced in the investigation. Two $500,000 payments had been wired directly from Shohei Otani's name surfaced in the investigation. Two $500,000 payments had been wired directly from Shohei Otani's bank account

to Boyer. The Dodgers immediately fired Muzerahi, the interpreter. But it doesn't add up. Otani's team permitted the interpreter to sit for a 90-minute interview Tuesday night. The interpreter told ESPN that he started placing bets on credit with

Boyer after meeting him at a San Diego poker game in 2021. Got big poker games going on out here. I stay away from there. After agreeing to cover his losses, Otani thought the interpreter still might gamble money away. So he logged into the computer and sent it to Boyer himself, according to Mizrahi. Their close relationship had once been described as a brotherhood. It was only after the interpreter interview that Otani's representative changed their tune.

Now the claim was that he was a victim, that Otani was a victim of massive theft at the hands of the interpreter and that he never tried to cover the gambling losses. It doesn't add up. It's not adding up, Ocho. Ohtani's claim makes a little bit more sense. I'm confused. Okay, I'm confused. So is

it theft on behalf of the interpreter and stealing money or is it Ohtani one that likes to gamble as well? Because if Ohtani likes to gamble and we talk about baseball, we already know how they strike with an iron fist when it comes to gambling and baseball. What happened was

what I believe happened because the interpreter and Ohtani has a very tight relationship. It's described as a brotherhood. The interpreter has a gambling problem. Oh, okay. What's the likelihood of the interpreter having access directly to show

Hazel Tani's account? Yeah, I don't really have. That's not very like money was coming directly from show Hazel Tani's account to cover the gambling debt. Now this, this, Now, this illicit gambling ring is under federal investigation. So now

ding, ding, ding, ding, Shohei Otani. How many of them Shohei Otani do you think are in the United States? Just one. And it's that one that's not currently on the Dodgers. So now, hold on. How is this tied to what's really currently on the Dodgers. So now, hold on. How is this tied to what's really going on? See, it makes no sense.

What happened was I believe he was covering for his, they're so close, they're like brothers because he's been his interpreter. He's covering the debt. It's a bad look because it makes it seem like Shohei knew and was covering the debt. So now, once it comes to light, no, he was stealing money because we got to clear Shohei. Ah, okay, okay, okay. Wait, hold on.

Now, what are we betting on? I know we're not betting on baseball. No, I don't think he's taking baseball. I think he's probably betting on football, probably basketball, whatever the case may be. I don't know. But still in general, now, this is something you're going to have to educate me on because I don't know much about it.

Now, as an active baseball player, are you allowed to bet on other things outside of baseball? Or is that still frowned upon in the baseball world? I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know. Golf can bet on themselves. The golfer, like Tiger, could bet on himself,

I bet a million dollars that i'm gonna win the masters right but a football player because there's so many things there's there's a lot of moving parts and because the money is so substantial now that's what i couldn't understand with calvin really that's why i couldn't understand what some of those lions player bro right you're trying to win win $500 and you make a little million. You're selling your money. You're selling hundreds for fives. Right, right, right.

It made no sense. Now, when somebody back in the late, like, the Black Sox scandal, when they gonna give you, okay, they give you $1,000 and you make it $200. Now, okay, okay, that makes a little sense or boxes right we thought they would fix the fight but in today's game why would a guy

making 30 million to fix a game 50 million right ruined everything yeah so it made no sense what makes sense is that the interpreter had a problem. He got in over his head. And so, Ocho, remember I told you, I lose a hand. I double the next hand, lose that hand. Now you see how you can get it in the hole. So if you gambling, hey, you lost $50,000 or $100,000. Hey, double it.

And I want to pay this, this, this, this, and this. And so that $100,000, now all of a sudden, if you don't win you're down eight hundred thousand shit because boy boy but i i i hope obviously antonio is i mean and shea hate show me show god damn it shohei otani is a crazy talent obviously i don't even watch, but continuously seeing him on the news for what he's doing, obviously watching him on ESPN. I've come to learn about him through there, understanding how great he is as a pitcher, as a slugger. And I hope everything goes in his favor. I'm not sure about the rules as far as him being an active baseball player and betting on other sports i'm not sure if that is frowned upon in the baseball world but we will find out

i don't know i'm someone that's wired large sums of money and even when they're gonna call me mr sharp x came and wants to wire this sum of money. Do we have your permission? Yes. So they're not just going to be wiring $500,000 from that account. Without making. Without showing. Without just. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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