Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: NFL Week 2 Catchup

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson recap everything that went down in Week 2 of the NFL season.   Some of the biggest stories include Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa going down with a co...ncussion, the Carolina Panthers deciding to bench Bryce Young, the New Orleans Saints blowing out the Dallas Cowboys and much more!03:10 - Falcons shock Eagles09:00 - Bryce Young gets benched22:21 - 49ers injuries compound23:46 - Dolphins bolster QB room30:06 - Caleb Williams struggles33:26 - Saints blow out Cowboys42:00 - Ravens fall to 0-248:17 - Robert Kraft mad at Jerry Jones56:15 - Adrian Peterson goes broke(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:39 ball back, go right back down the field. Eagles fans. Now, last week when y'all went on Green Bay, y'all was in Brazil and y'all won, I said, Ocho, I'm still, I'm not sold on that defense. I say, I see some things I don't like, Ocho. I'm not sold. Oh, hater, you hating again.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Oh, meat riding, oh, meat riding up. Y'all see, what y'all fail to realize is Ocho and I have two and a half decades of playing the game, breaking the games down, watching the games. The difference between Ocho and I and most people that do what I do, you watch the game. Yay, they scored a touchdown. Yay, they got a sack.
Starting point is 00:04:16 My job is to go deeper. I need to know why they scored. I need to know how they got that sack. So when I come up here and I sit before you, I can give you things. I don't got no dog in the fight. I don't have no anybody on the Eagle side. Raheem Morris came by. He was great.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Sought down when we was on the tour, Ocho. Gave us 15 minutes of his time. Greatly appreciate that. I know Arthur Blank a little bit. Yes, I have his number. I'm cool with Mr. Blank. I don't bother that man. I don't ask him for tickets.
Starting point is 00:04:44 But he just thought it'd be good. We used to go to the same gym, used to train with the same Pilates teacher. So I just throw that out there. But Ocho, when I watched it, I said, Ocho, I ain't sold on the Eagles defense. I told you that last week. I said, I'm not sold, Ocho. I said, because that back end, it scares me. And they can't consistently generate pressure. They let Hassan Reddick go. Fletch retired. Brandon Graham is good, but he's
Starting point is 00:05:07 getting a little long in the tooth. I say, Ocho, they're not consistently generating pressure and you can run on them. Whoa! Whoa! Shut up! Stop hating! You starting off the season hating already? Hey, Eagle fan, what y'all got to say about Unk now? Y'all want to talk about anything? Yeah, but see,
Starting point is 00:05:23 we got to, once I'm not sure what they need to do what adjustments they need to make with jordan davis i mean you're with jordan davis and jaylen carter up there with those two behemoths of a man of young men there should be constant pressure at every time actually nobody based on what they have at the front line should really be able to run the goddamn ball. Nope. Just thinking about those two right there clogging up the middle, it shouldn't be nobody running the ball at all. But for some reason, B. John Robinson is also a special back as well.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He's a special back. But thinking about the game, to me, obviously, it was boring. If you watch the first and the second quarter, it was a snooze fest. It was a snooze fest. It was a snooze fest. It did not get exciting until the end of the game, which always happens in a low-scoring game for some reason like this.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It gets great at the end. Now, the game was sealed and dealed and done. If Saquon could have caught that ball, it got in that first down. Then you could have run the clock out because you already picked up the first. Just run the ball! Oh, Joe, do you know 40 seconds is you could have run the clock out because you already picked up the first. Just run the ball. Oh, Joe, you know 40 seconds is going to go off the clock?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. If they ran the ball, they were anticipating the run. That's why the swing pass was wide open in the flat. It's great if you make it. Guess what? I run the ball and I'm going to run it all the way down. I'm going to take me a timeout. I'm going to take 40 seconds off the clock.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I'm going to time. So that's a minute. Hold on. But you got to think about it. In that situation, in that scenario, based on down the distance, the time of the game in the fourth quarter, what are the Atlanta Falcons expecting?
Starting point is 00:06:59 They're expecting them to hand the ball off to Saquon. That's why I thought the play call, the play call was beautiful to me. And we just need a Saquon. I's why I thought the play call was beautiful to me. We just needed Saquon. I'm talking about weed. I'm talking about weed. As an Eagle fan. As an Eagle fan.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It was a great play call. You're right. I'm anticipating you going to run it. I'm thinking just like you. Oh, y'all running this ball. Ain't no way y'all will let Jalen Hurst throw this ball. Play action. Roll out. Saquon wide white over he didn't drop it boom hold on wait wait a minute now we still got time the falcons come out they get the
Starting point is 00:07:31 ball back and drive the length of the field hold on we playing too we playing too shell we playing too high i don't know what the safety is doing that the corner out the darn air mooney the first corner out the darn air mooney why the safety all the way back there like it's goddamn punt return? Because he worried about that double move to the post. Even still, in that situation, you know they got to throw the ball short. Boom, if you're in two, your antenna's got to go up. Let's say it was Ed Reed back there. What you think Ed Reed doing?
Starting point is 00:08:02 But here's the thing, Ochoa. Listen, he going to bait you, and he driving on the corner because he noticed what you're running based on Thornell Mooney's alignment. I know the corner route coming. Let me tell you why you're playing cover two. You can't get no pressure. You better not go single high safety, and you ain't got but what? You touched Kirk Cousins one time.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Think about what was Kirk Cousins doing in the pocket on that last drive? Patting the goddamn ball. Damn. Patting the ball. I wonder what my kids. I wonder if my wife didn't put the kids to bed. Damn, I wonder what my mom doing. Man, that's a beautiful night in Philly.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Damn, he doing all that. He's like, somebody got to fill the void, huh? They let Hassan Reddick go. He let him in sacks last year. Yes. They let him go. So somebody got to pick the void, huh? They let Hassan Reddick go. He led him in sacks last year. Yes. So somebody got to pick up the slack. Up the middle, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, maybe y'all got to come to the party now.
Starting point is 00:08:51 They got to get in shape. You got to come to... I mean, they can't run with two plays. Jordan Davis run two plays and come out. You don't think they in shape? No, hell no. Why you running two plays and come out the ball game? Well, you know, I mean, when it comes to the interior, most of the time,
Starting point is 00:09:05 most teams, they, how do you call it? They rotate. They're on a rotation. They stay fresh. Ain't none of them jokers got no pressure. Fruit's fresh. I need some dogs. Hey, go hunting.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Bryce Young era temporarily has been halted. Dave Canales decided to bench Bryce Young less temporarily has been halted. Dave Canales decided to bench Bryce Young less than 24 hours after telling everyone he's starting next week. The Red Rifle, Andy Dalton is being named a team starter quarterback moving forward this season. Young was reportedly shocked by the benching and sources told Jordan Schultz it came out of nowhere. No, it actually didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:45 If you go back and look at your play, look at the play. It didn't come out of nowhere. No one anticipated the plug being pulled after just two games with a new coaching staff. But a reminder that the Patriots, Panthers, excuse me, traded so much to get him. They traded DJ Moore, 2023 first round pick, which was Darnell Wright. A 2023
Starting point is 00:10:07 second round pick was Tyreek Stevens. I think he's a starter. 2024 first round pick, overall pick, Caleb Williams. And a 2025 second round pick. You don't do that. You don't do nobody like that. For one,
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'm going to start with David Tepper. Because what David Tepper is doing is insubordination. I don't even know what that shit means, but it sounds like it fits for this goddamn scenario. Well, he can't insubordinate because he's the higher up. Okay, he's the higher up, and that's the problem. Because now you're pointing the fingers at Bryce Young like Bryce Young is the issue. That's not the issue. That's not the issue.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Look at the quarterbacks before Bryce Young got there. I thought that was the problem. Who was the quarterback before Bryce Young? Man, they had Sam Donald. They had Baker Mayfield. Keep going. oh man they had sam donald they had baker keep going i don't i don't know who i don't i don't really know who came directly after cam that's the hope that's what i'm trying to say it's been a revolving door of quarterbacks not having success because they don't have what they need around them to be successful there was a reason he was able to get bright young because he's the number he was
Starting point is 00:11:24 the number one pick for a reason you were able he was the number one pick for a reason. You were able to have the number one pick for a reason. So now you expect Bryce Young to come in, had a different coaching staff last year. You hired Dave Kanellis, right? You bring him in. You let him play two games. He has nothing surrounding him
Starting point is 00:11:38 to help him, but now you're going to bench him and you're going to start Andy Dalton. That's going to answer the problem. Like Andy Dalton going to take you somewhere. Like that's going to answer the problem. No, fix the shit around him. And then you put him, put him in an environment and I guarantee you, you'll find success. Oh, Bryce Young is the issue. Then people talk about, oh, he too short. Oh, he can't see. Hello, how tall is Kyler fucking Murray? How tall is Baker Mayfield?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Well, we know he taller than Kyler Murray. He absolutely is. It's not Bryce Young. Now, what I will say, if you turn the tape on, there will be some discrepancies in his play. Oh, his confidence is shot, man. Yeah. Yeah. And this is no disrespect to any of the receivers that are on the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:12:34 No. Listen, no disrespect. You know, I love you know how I feel about you, even if I don't know you personally. But he has. You know what? I ain't gonna say that because I don't want to be disrespectful. I think the thing is, the question is, if Andy Dalton is the answer, I need to know the question.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Hold on. I'm just going to keep it. Hey, y'all know what we do. I keep it one time. So if he the answer, what's the question? Listen, I think having a veteran presence, I'm not sure what the Panthers are going to do going forward. Maybe allowing Bryce Young to sit for a year,
Starting point is 00:13:09 watching the media outlets and some of the pundits, some of the analysts are saying Bryce Young time in Carolina. But they want everybody to play because everybody thinks they're going to get C.J. Stroud. The problem is, Ocho, is that people forget. Do you realize Patrick mahomes sat his entire rookie year except one game but that's not what they do with rookies this now they don't even give the rookies time to develop and learn from the sideline if you get drafted number one they
Starting point is 00:13:37 throwing you to the wolves they throwing you to the fire yeah you got out there carson didn't start carson didn't start the whole year yeah so Kisly. Yeah. So times have changed now. For one, the money that's being invested in these players. You know, we're paying you so much. We need you to go out there right now and earn that paycheck. You need to earn what you're making. Now, it's okay if you go to a team that is competent with weapons around you that you can use at your disposal that makes your job easier.
Starting point is 00:14:04 What Bryce Young has to do is he has to put on his fucking cape and be Superman, which he cannot do because he has nothing to use around him. And I mean that as respectful as possible. You traded DJ Moore, somebody that could have gave
Starting point is 00:14:19 him a quality receiver. You traded him. And I like Adam Phelan, but Adam Phelan, I mean, he's not what he wants. He's not that poor ball receiver anymore. He's a decent number two. Look at the receiving general. And I mean this in no, I'm not
Starting point is 00:14:36 trying to be disrespectful. We talk about number two. We talk about twos and threes. Like who can Bryce Young, stay with me, who can Bryce Young, right, in the time of need, life or death situation, he can come to the ball, get up on the center, and look at a receiver and say, you know what, right now on this plate, I need you. I need you to
Starting point is 00:15:00 win for me. I'm telling high water, I know you got me, no matter what. Who can he do high water. I know you got me no matter what. Who can he do that to? Who can he do that with? C.J. Schwab got somebody he can do it with. Patrick Mahomes got somebody he can do it with. Joe Burrow got somebody
Starting point is 00:15:14 he can do it with. Like, you can go down a list of teams that always have one dog. You just mentioned. You got to have one. One dog. And the more you have,
Starting point is 00:15:22 the better you are. I can count on. No matter what, he got me. It's nothing. And then you got – he's having a string of bad plays back to back. And all that does to a player's confidence, you already know what it does. In the press conference Sunday, they asked him,
Starting point is 00:15:45 have you lost your confidence? He said, my confidence is in the Lord. And when he said that, when he said something like that, it shot. It shot. I'm Christian. I believe in the man upstairs, too. In that environment, that killer mindset. The Carolina Panthers fans, they try to hear that.
Starting point is 00:16:07 The killer mindset you have to have at the quarterback position, your confidence is number one. You can't shake my confidence. Your confidence is number one. That's number one. Once that's gone, you're just a shell of yourself out there. You a shell of yourself. I wish
Starting point is 00:16:23 more guys realized, Ocho, for me, how you going to break my confidence coming from where I came from? Do you know what it took just for me to get here? Now that I'm here? You think, oh, okay, I drop a couple passes. Y'all boo. Y'all think that's going to break me?
Starting point is 00:16:46 I should have been broke a long time ago because along the way, I'm sure sure it's been 75 000 people that doubted me at some point in time and i might not know them just like you don't know how to uh 75 000 or the 76 77 000 how many people that come to carolina game you don't know them you can't break my car you can't shake you can't break my confidence because i know first of all you drafted me because clearly you you like what you saw on tape. I played on a big-time program. I won big-time games. I gave big-time competitions. But don't let a couple of bad plays – don't let somebody pull –
Starting point is 00:17:16 now, look, it's easy for me to say because I've never been benched, Ocho. So that's a lot easier for me to say. I try to make sure I do everything I possibly could. You know, it's different for a tight end receiver than it is a quarterback. They have a lot more on their plate than what we have on our plate.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But, nah, you're not finna break my confidence. You're not finna shake me just because I have a couple of bad games. Hey, I'm gonna do me. I'm gonna go out there and do me. And it's a lot, like I said, Ocho, I'm responsible for my play. He's responsible for everybody. When things go good, he's going to get the credit.
Starting point is 00:17:51 When they go bad, he's going to get all the blame. Because what happened? As a rookie, look at the circumstance he's coming into. As a rookie last year, there's a reason he was the number one pick. Because the team was bad. It damn sure in Alabama. It damn sure in Alabama. It damn sure in Alabama. Because when you follow Tua, you follow Mack Jones,
Starting point is 00:18:11 and you got those receivers that you got. You got Jamison Williams, and you got Mechie, and you got those tights. You got those running backs. You got Jameer Dill. Listen, you come up from a winning environment surrounded by adequate weapons that makes your job easy. I'm not saying the court is easy, but when you have certain players around you and you have certain weapons at your disposal, you're able to facilitate the ball an efficient way.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And that's something that he can do. He has to put on the cape and be something that he's not. He can't be Superman. Name one quarterback right now. let's chat listen to me name one quarterback right now that you can put on the panthers and it would turn the whole franchise around who who you ain't got but you look first of all you ain't got but a handful of guys. You probably got like three or four guys, Ocho, that could go there and it raises the level of play. That's hard for a rookie because you got to look at when Peyton Manning
Starting point is 00:19:14 got the ending, you know what Peyton Manning had? Yeah. Ocho, he had Marvin Harrison. He had Marshall Hall. Two guys. First battle of the Hall of Famer. Marshall Hall was an MVP and a two-time offensive player of Famer. Marshall Falk was an MVP and a two-time offensive player of the year.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And we know what Marvin Harrison is. That's what he have. And they say, you know what we're going to do? That ain't enough. We're going to go get you Reggie Wayne. You know what? That ain't enough. We're going to go get you Andrew James. Oh, that ain't enough. We're going to get you Anthony Gonzalez. We're going to get you
Starting point is 00:19:44 Jonas Clark. Jonas Clark. Brandon Stokely. Man, don't get me started. If you look at what Patrick Mahomes inherited, he had, look what he got. He had Tyreek. And he had Kelsey. And they went out and got Sammy Watkins.
Starting point is 00:20:01 The unfortunate. Listen, you know, think about everything you just said. Drafting the right way. Putting pieces around the quarterbacks so they can have instant success. What is Brother Tepper doing over there? And they
Starting point is 00:20:17 want to blame it on the quarterback. They want to blame it on the quarterback. Brady was the only one. Tom probably said, Coach Belichick, don't you draft anybody else. Because you ain't drafted but one player that's been some good, and that's Gronk. Everybody else we got in free agency. We got, I mean, what was it, Amendola?
Starting point is 00:20:35 You got him in free agency. I think Edelman was an undrafted free agency or a low-round draft pick. Welker, you signed him, but he was undrafted. You look at the guys that he signed, boy, they would have been good and terrible. You remember he got Tyquan Thornton, the guy from Baylor? They ran like 4-2-6, 4-2-7, yeah. Man couldn't play dead in the Western.
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Starting point is 00:25:39 issues and now Debo's down. The question I have for you, are they in trouble? Nah, they're going to be all right. You know, you got Ricky, Ricky finna come back. You have Juwan Jennings, who is also capable of making big plays, obviously
Starting point is 00:25:55 more so in the blocking game, but he's an adequate receiver that can get open when need be. Did you say Ayuk was hurt? No, Ayuk's not hurt, but he hasn't been involved uh that i thought he should not this remember last year when debo went out he stepped up played unbelievable purdy was looking for him so yeah he's gonna have to go back to that he's gonna have to go back to uh uh because no debo no christian mccaffrey they're still gonna be
Starting point is 00:26:22 gonna be able to run the football but in the passing passing game, you're going to have to lean. You're going to have to rely a little bit more on IU. You're going to have to rely a little bit more on Kittle. Like you said, Jennings played really – he played really well. He's made some big-time catch. He can make some big-time catch. Remember the rookie? The rookie's coming in.
Starting point is 00:26:37 The rookie from Florida, I think he'll be back. Yeah. Yeah, Ricky, he'll be back this week. So I think they'll be fine. I think they'll be fine. Listen, goddamn Shanahan is so goddamn creative offensively, knowing how to manipulate the offense and the formations to be able to get the players open with understanding of their strengths
Starting point is 00:26:57 and their weaknesses and what they're good at and what they're not. I think they're going to be fine. The Dolphins signed Tyler Huntley off the Ravens practice squad. Tua is seeing a neurologist and retirement is not in consideration after suffering his undocumented concussion. Instead, he's in concussion protocol working to get cleared for return. Mike McDaniel said there hasn't been any decision placed on whether Tua would be placed on injured reserve.
Starting point is 00:27:21 He's doing well today and we take it day by day. He's smiling with his teammates. He's working with trainers and the medical staff diligently. I like the choice. I like the choice. I think for those in the chat that have watched Tyler Huntley play, understand what they're getting. At some point, maybe a week, maybe two,
Starting point is 00:27:41 depending on how long he takes to learn the playbook there's so much that the Dolphins could be able to do with him he's a dual threat quarterback yep he's a he's a good thrower of the ball yes someone that can get the ball to waddle the Tyreek he can throw a good deep ball but also escaping his escapability is up to par i'm not calling him lamar jackson but if you saw when he put the ravens and he had to play well he played well yeah he came in and play play really well so i think that's a good fit for the dolphins and he needs to be behind center as soon as possible because if you look at the numbers no disrespect to skylar thompson if you look at the numbers and the efficiency when skylar thompson plays even with waddle and goddamn tyree
Starting point is 00:28:31 i mean tyree keel at the helm it ain't that good it ain't that good so you want to be in contention as long as possible and the two is able to come back and return which i think would probably be week six i think the bye week is five. Maybe the bye week is six. So I think Tua comes back week seven. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that I think Tua had a concussion that wasn't diagnosed. Remember, he got that concussion, and they said, oh, it was his shoulder. He was stumbling, and his offensive lineman,
Starting point is 00:28:59 and then he come right back out there that Thursday night against Cincinnati and get slammed and was soaked. Back to head, yeah. And if I'm not mistaken, I think he had one at Alabama. come right back out there that Thursday night against Cincinnati and get slammed and we saw. And if I'm not mistaken, I think he had one at Alabama. It's tough to leave something not on your terms. Right. Especially this early. This early?
Starting point is 00:29:17 After I just got paid? After I just got paid and I have to continue to prove myself that I'm worthy of the contract that I received, especially after dealing with the bullshit when Brian Flores was here. I have to prove myself, not just myself, but also to the doubters who said I wasn't worthy of being the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins. I'm not worthy of the contract that I just received, I have to prove that there's no way in hell. That's why I said it as soon as it happened.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And we talked about it. Ain't no way in hell of retiring. Ain't no way in hell. It's just, you know, as a competitor, as someone that loved the game of football, like you just said, all it took you to do, all you went through, the obstacles, the ups, the downs, to even get to this point in life. You think I'm going to just hang it up behind some concussions despite the health risks?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. Long term. Doctors. Doctors. Don't like to be a definitive because they don't know. They're like, OK, we think this, you know, know i was listening to ted i went back and teddy bruski he said when he had his stroke he said the doctor says okay you could be okay but there's always a possibility we think there's very minimal risk right but this is this is still a procedure this is still surgery the body is going to be opened up in this situation when my brother went to get his eval for his neck right the doctor looked at him and told him he said mr sharp you get to make your own decision but if you were my son i would advise you never to play football again take one hit huh that was it remember i was like hey 29 years of age just come off a 94 catch 94 catch 18 touchdown season 29 it was over
Starting point is 00:31:16 hey michael irvin same thing huh michael ir Urban had a yeah, he had a stenosis, which is narrowing of the spine. So he got boom done. See, I think the thing is that we never think anything that's bad traumatic is going to happen to us. Right, right. That happen to other people.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Right. I ain't going to get no car wreck, Ocho. I ain't going to get no Achilles, no AC. That's not going to happen to me. That happens to other people. And so it's hard to like, man, look, God got me. And
Starting point is 00:31:57 he does. But at the end of the day, the thing is that I'm looking at, we know more now, Ocho. They know more now. Doctors know more. The players know more now than they did in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, even the 2000s. And you know what, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:32:13 10, 15 years from now, they'll know even more. It's amazing how far medicine and science has come just in the last 10 years. I mean, when they used to do hip surgery, they used to cut the glute. They used to cut the muscle. Now all they do is just move it to the side. They come in through the front. They don't go in through the back no more.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's how far the advancement, the types of material that they use last longer, sturdier. Hey, and speaking of, I just want to throw this little tad bit out there real quick since I heard you say medicine and science and science. And, you know. Can I honestly say I think there's a cure for everything?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Can I can I say that? Is it OK for me to say that? Ain't no money in the cure. The money is in the treatment and the research. OK, I just want to make sure we're on the same page. So I'm a. Yeah, I'm a. I just want to. Why the hell would I hear you? I want you. I want want to make sure we're on the same page. So I'm going to close. Why the hell would I care you? I want you to be reoccurring. I want you to keep coming back. I don't want to clear no high blood pressure.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I don't want to care that. Come on, man. Come on, now. I just want to make sure we're on the same page, now, so I can close my book. And he's going to learn, Ocho. Some of the throws, a lot of the throws that he got away with in college you can't get away with them in the nfl they'll make you pay for them and another thing when you're heading to the sideline you know how like college guys
Starting point is 00:33:35 will pull up and let you run on out of bounds yeah they're not gonna do that in the nfl because they want an accumulation of licks they want that that to add up. So the first quarter, you might pop right up like that didn't hurt. The second quarter, yeah, we feeling good. But they keep putting enough of them on you on the third and the fourth quarter. And over the course of the season, they're going to add up. Caleb, you got to run. When you make a detour like you're going out of bounds, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:34:00 run more power to get on up out of bounds. Because they're not playing. If they get that close to you, Ochocho because you don't have the protection of the pocket you're a runner you're running back they're gonna lay wood on you Ocho what'd you take from this ball game listen I enjoyed the ball game listen Caleb Williams what he has to do he has to learn to protect the ball learn to protect the ball learn to live to see another play some of those deep throws listen I like what he's able to do as far as his escapability, being able to extend plays,
Starting point is 00:34:30 trying to make plays down the field to try to get his team into the game, but you can't do it. You can't do it. Obviously, like college, sometimes some of those receivers were wide open when you're able to dodge the D tackles and the guards that might have gotten through.
Starting point is 00:34:46 But, you know, these players are covered. Sometimes you throw in a double coverage. Sometimes you throw in weight. He had one throw up. He threw way across his body from the right hash. All the way back across the field and got picked. Yep. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Sometimes, listen, just throw the ball away and live to see another down. Other than that, listen, they pressured him. They pressured him a lot. They fooled him with some of the coverages. Other than that, it was a good game.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end, the Bears actually had a chance to come back and win. It got real interesting. Yeah, it got very interesting. It's funny how that always works. You know that? You ever notice that?
Starting point is 00:35:31 I do. Because the thing is, it seemed like the Texans was going in to put the game away. Cam Akers fumbled the ball. They're about to go in and go and touchdown Ocho. They're about to go up two scores. They're about to put the game away. And that's what you have to guard against because if you think about ocho more teams lose games than teams win games yes sir there's more
Starting point is 00:35:53 a lot more losing than winning now we know at the end of the day they're gonna have to have somebody's gonna have to win unless the game ends on the top but you go back and look you look at it like okay this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game. And, you know, like you said, Caleb Williams, I think he has a great he his escapability is unbelievable. He can make every throw. He just has to understand this isn't college. Everybody, everybody at this level is elite, even know there's tears to it but you're talking about the best of the best you only got 1600 men in the world of 8 billion people that do what you do yeah 1600 of 8 billion that's a very very minute percent of men that can play this game at the highest level oh joe wow the saints scored touchdowns on six straight possessions and to be and on their way play this game at the highest level. Ocho. The Saints
Starting point is 00:36:45 scored touchdowns on six straight possessions and on their way to a 44-19 blowout over the Cowboys. The Saints offense has scored 91 points in two games. Through three quarters, the Saints averaged a little less than 10 yards per play. 35
Starting point is 00:37:01 points allowed are the most tied for the most given up through the first two quarters uh they tied us because we put 35 on the ass in 98 at the half last year the cowboys allowed 35 points in just one game car was hardly touched neither was alvin who scored four touchdowns i tried to prepare you for this oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you, I said, Ocho, I'm going to let you go, but I want to say this. We talk about the Cowboys and we'll start with the defense. I said, look,
Starting point is 00:37:32 I wasn't really that impressed with the Cowboys offense last week. I said, they got a punt return and they got, you know, a couple of turnovers that put them on short fields. I say the defense looked really good, but I say I would really like to see them if they had their starting tackles in there. I say the defense looked really good, but I say I would really like to see them if they had their starting tackles in there. I say because what happens if you can hold up?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Micah. I guess we got our answer. Yeah. I did not hear Micah Parsons' name called. I did not hear D-Law's name called. When you go in an Ocho, do you know how hard it is? I want you to explain to the fans because I'm going to let you take it over and I'm going to follow up after you. Can you explain to the know how hard it is? I want you to explain to the fans because I'm going to let you take it over and I'm going to follow up after you.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Can you explain to the fans how difficult it is, our listeners, our viewing and our listeners that's going to listen to this on audio, can you explain to them how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six straight possessions in an NFL game? Wait, hold on. Forget an NFL game. Do you know how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six possessions in Madden?
Starting point is 00:38:26 In a video game. If you're playing someone that's good, it's very difficult. So the fact that this is Derek Carr, this is the same Derek Carr that the Raiders let go. Right. That's the same Derek Carr, right? Look completely different today. Rasheed Shaheed. Is that how you say say his name rashid shaheed chris olave and they got them alvin camara they look like a completely different same team today i don't know and i'm i don't want to butcher anybody's name whoever the right tackle and the left tackle are for the new Orleans Saints that deserve a pay raise. There wasn't no stunt, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:39:14 They barely got the goddamn Derek Carr and was able to pressure him. Tayson Hill, Swiss Army knife. He coming out the backfield. He had quarterback doing quarterback sneaks. I mean, everything worked today. Everything worked. If I'm not mistaken, the Saints didn't punt. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Nine minutes into the third quarter. Was it third or fourth quarter? Fourth. Nine minutes into the fourth quarter. That's, I mean, I'm sure it's happened before, but come on, man. I didn't expect it to happen to the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Again, one thing that the Cowboys always do, they have a game like this. Maybe not them allowing a team to score 35, but they've gone 12-5 the last, what, three years in a row? So this is one game down.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I'm assuming knowing them and the way they bounce back after a loss, they're going to look completely different next week, and everybody's going to be back happy. They couldn't stop. Look, Derek Carr was 11 of 16. 243-2 touchdown, a pick, a sack. He had a 99 QBR.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Alvin Kamara has some of the best balance I've ever seen. I mean, you think you got it? You better wrap all the way up. He is phenomenal playing through contact. 20 rushes, 115, three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:40:40 They had 39 carries, a buck 90. I just don't know. I don't know what that was today because the Saints did whatever they wanted. They got whatever they wanted and as much of it as they wanted. That's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:40:59 That's embarrassing. The Cowboys defense should be... Look, Dak didn't play well. And this is not all on Dak. And people like, well, Sheldon, you think that's all Dak's fault? No. But you're allowed to match what the opposing offense, guess what, when the Saints score,
Starting point is 00:41:14 when they kick it off, Dak is allowed to go score now. And you know what, that's the type of game I thought it was going to be at the beginning. That's the type of game I thought it was going to be. I thought, you know what, I say, man, boy, this is looking to be, it was going to be I thought you know what I say man boy this is looking to be it's going to be a shootout the same score the Cowboys score okay the same score
Starting point is 00:41:32 okay the Cowboys score I was expecting you know both teams to put up 40 42 35 that's what I thought it was going to look like turnover interception and then they were capitalizing on those turnovers
Starting point is 00:41:48 oh they put they didn't kick no field goal they scored touchdowns now if my Bengals could have done that today yeah but the Cowboys need another receiver all they got is CD and you see when they started doubling CD
Starting point is 00:42:03 you see how difficult life got with that. But you know what I like about what the Cowboys do with C.D. Lamb? They move him all around. In 3x1, they'll put him at the 3. In 3x1, they'll put him at the 2. Sometimes he'll be on the outside. Sometimes he'll be on the opposite side as the X.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So I like, even though they try to double him, they move him around so much, it makes it difficult. If you think about it, Ocho, after he got that long touchdown run, he only caught one more pass. Yeah. I hate when that happens. I hate when that happens.
Starting point is 00:42:37 You think you about to have a bomb. Hey, I already got me a long tub. I done got me about 90. I done got me a 90. It's the first quarter. I'm like, yeah, I've added up in my head. Okay, that's a buck 50. That's at least 151 and 82 tubs at the least.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And the fact that you just said that, I don't know if we're getting to the Kyler Murray game today. Remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Jr. yesterday, last night's show? I said he is going to go off. And just the way the NFLfl works just i don't know how to explain it but he went crazy in the in the first quarter and i sent out yes i sent out a tweet and said i guarantee you even though he's on fire like an nba jam character they gonna stop going to him and lo and behold i think the stat line might have been the same
Starting point is 00:43:25 at the end of the damn game. It was. He only had, I think he had got another target, and that was it. They do it every time. I will never be able to understand why it works like that. They just run the offense, and I guess if a defense says, you know what, the rest of the game, we're taking Marvin Harrison Jr. out of the game, the offense, the game, we taking Marvin Harrison Jr. out of the game,
Starting point is 00:43:48 the offense, the coordinator, allows the team to do just that. I hate when they allow a team to dictate where you go with the ball. I hate it. Force your goddamn wheels some time. They got to... This is embarrassing though, Ojo. You can't get beat like this. Hold on. It's only week two. Is it really embarrassing to lose
Starting point is 00:44:06 like this week 2 as opposed to 10 games in 11 games in 12 games in Ocho you allowed a team to go 6 for 6 touchdowns you said it's hard to do on match it's hard to do in a video game
Starting point is 00:44:21 well they just did it in the game especially when you're playing a quality opponent it's hard that's what you. Well, they just did it in the game. Especially you playing a quality opponent. It's hard. That's what you told me the Cowboys were. I said that? Yeah. Nah, I said Cowboys. You done had a deck.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Oh, man, we had a deck. We had a deck. My boy had to win. Yeah, yeah. Deck, deck. That's my boy now. Now, they going to bounce. They going to bounce.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Y'all must have got separated at birth somehow. Y'all lost contact. Hey, they going to be all right. You know what? This is a good thing though. You know, it's really not. Sometimes this can be a blessing in disguise. When they say it's a game of inches,
Starting point is 00:44:56 this is what they talk about. Not only is the game of inches, there are one, two, maybe three plays out of what, the 65 or maybe 70 you run. One, two, maybe three plays out of what, the 65 or maybe 70 you run. One, two, maybe three plays that make the difference in the game. I guarantee you, if we were to have the time to break
Starting point is 00:45:15 down this film in somewhat of a PowerPoint presentation style to the chat, we can show you the one or two or three plays that made the difference in this game on why they were able to come back and win. Game. They ran the ball well. Derek Henry
Starting point is 00:45:31 18 for 84. Lamar 5 for 45. Hill 4 for 42. 27 rushes, 151. Zay Flowers 7 for 91. Mark Andrews 4 for 51. Bateman had 3 for 40 likely 2 for 26
Starting point is 00:45:46 Lamar was 21 of 34 2 for 47 1 touchdown 1 INT missed a couple throws he'd like to have back 2 sacks 15 yards yeah
Starting point is 00:45:56 but with Lamar Jackson MVP as my quarterback and Dan Henry as my running back I should be able to hold a 10 point lead with 12 minutes
Starting point is 00:46:04 to go in the fourth. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. First of all, I've got to be. I've got to be able to hold that, Ocho. I've got to. You know, it also comes down to the play calling as well. No, Ocho, we're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Oh, no. Okay, okay, okay. No, we're not going to see. There you go. See what you did. What? So, let me ask you a question. When they win the game, you don't say nothing about play calling. You say that's what players do.
Starting point is 00:46:26 They make plays. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying, you know, when it comes. Okay, what would you like? Okay, let me tell you. I'm going to take your argument. What would you have liked to see them do more or less?
Starting point is 00:46:38 More or less of in that instance? What would you like to see them do more of? And then what would you like to see them do less of? And then what would you like to see them do less of? I think I think they should run the ball a little bit more, run the ball a little bit more. It is rare that you see them normally. They have more pass, especially because they got to lead. They have more passing attempts than rushing attempts. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You bought John Harbaugh. Listen, you bought Derek Henry in for a reason. But he said, he said they did not bring Derrick Henry there to give him 30 touches a game. That's a goddamn lie. And the reason you didn't bring Derrick Henry. What he said. Okay, he said that and you lost the day. Up 10 with 12 minutes to go in the fourth, is the fact
Starting point is 00:47:25 that's when you're supposed to use your Derrick Henry to his advantage. And you don't do it. You try to do something that's really not the way your offense is built. You're not built to throw the ball goddamn 50 times a game. That's not the type of offense Baltimore is. No. I'm surprised
Starting point is 00:47:42 they got that many throws. Can Lamar throw the ball? You got that right. No. I'm surprised they got that many throws. Can Lamar throw the ball? You got that right. Yes. But just to drop back, first down, second down, third down, no. That's not the Ravens. I'm surprised, don't you, considering
Starting point is 00:47:57 when you go back and look at it, what's the... Hold on. Let me look for something right quick. What is this? Considering the time of possession, was it that they ended up losing the T.O.P. by over a minute?
Starting point is 00:48:24 But when you look at it, that you had a 10-point lead in the fourth, and to have more pass attempts than rush attempts, that's not normally the Ravens' recipe for success. It's normally the other way around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:39 More rush, you can see them having 35, 40 rush attempts, and then they'll have 20 to 25 pass attempts. But they threw the ball a lot today, which is surprising. Maybe they saw something. Maybe they
Starting point is 00:48:55 saw like, hey, their corners or their safety, we feel that we can hold up against. Max Crosby going to wreck some stuff. Every time. Every time. Every time. I mean, I don't really... The Raiders still play man-to-man. Man-to-man, safety in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Cup of three, cup of four. This is what we're running. We're not changing. We're not bluffing. We're not doing nothing exotic defensively. Line up and play. That's the only reason I can think of them just throwing the ball so much and going away from the run because there's a safety down in the box
Starting point is 00:49:33 I mean I like Lamar only had five rushes I'm okay with that but those because last week I think he had like 10, 11, 12 rushes last week maybe had like 14, 15. Yeah. Give Derrick Henry another six or seven carries.
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Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah. What happened? Patriots owner Robert Kraft is pissed off that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is in the Hall of Fame, and he's not. Kraft, who is still yet to be enshrined in Canton, reacted to Jones' induction in 2017 with anger and confusion. This is due to his belief that it meant Jones was being given credit over him for the NFL's explosion into the multi-billion dollar empire. At the time of Jones' induction, Kraft reportedly told a friend he hasn't been to an NFC title game in two decades and he gets in? How does that work? Oh, they beefing. The big and the ass beefing. I like that. I like that. But listen, I
Starting point is 00:55:14 understand where Mr. Kraft is coming from. It has been two decades, hasn't it? The most recent 28 years. Is it seven times Super Bowl champion? The Patriots? Mr. Kraft. Is it seven? Is it seven times? I mean, seven times Super Bowl champion? The Patriots? Mr. Krabs.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Six. Yeah. Six. Six? Yeah. Tom has seven, but he got another one with Tampa, so it's six. Okay, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Tommy gone. I mean, listen, if anyone should be enshrined in that Hall of Fame for what they've done to turn that program, excuse me, that franchise around, it should be Mr. Krabs. Because Jerry is still living on what was done in the past long, long time ago. Long, long, long, long, long, long, long time ago. And rightfully
Starting point is 00:55:53 so, it is the Cowboys. The star on the helmet does sell itself as opposed to, you know, the red, white, and blue down there in Foxborough, but... It happens. I mean, you know the thing is, Ocho, and people are like, well, I don't know what foxborough but it happens i mean you know the thing is ocho and people like well i don't know what yeah it happens i mean i know guys that that when some guys get in and they don't they're like bro i went to this many pro bowls i'm this many
Starting point is 00:56:15 first team all pro i did x y and z how such and such like bro i hell i ain't vote i mean i get it i'm gonna hear your point i'm gonna hear your I'm gonna let you vent and this is what I always tell this is what I tell people when they want you to get in ain't nothing you've done can keep you out when they don't they'll change the rules to keep your ass out
Starting point is 00:56:38 and I'm gonna leave it at that cause I still want my brother to get in so I ain't gonna say too much but I just be but y'all know T.O. should have been a first ballot leave it at that. Because I still want my brother to get in, so I ain't going to say too much. But I just be... But y'all know. T.O. should have been a first ballot. Man got the third... The third most touchdown catches,
Starting point is 00:56:54 probably like the third most yards. Three men have ever been first team all pro on three different teams. Three. Two of them were first ballot Hall of Famers. Ted Hendricks, the Stork, Primetime,
Starting point is 00:57:11 and Terrell Owens. Three men in the history of the NFL. In the history. The NFL been playing football since 1920. The real deal. And y'all say no?
Starting point is 00:57:25 No? That's the game. Hey, man, politics, baby, politics. I think that, look, everybody says they're going to use the situation. I hate even bringing it up, but people like,
Starting point is 00:57:41 okay, what transpired at the video evidence so that he went in there xyz and then they say well hello you was the owner of one of the biggest scandals in NFL history people's like well if you don't if you didn't know you should have known I don't
Starting point is 00:58:00 believe he knew ain't sharing that information ain't nobody knew but coach Belichick and them damn coaches because that's why guess what happened when one of them left and went to the team that i played for he brought that same bull job there and mr b got you know what up out of there he took that over to london right and they caught it and mr b said oh no oh no ain't no second chance. Hey, we sorry. Apologize.
Starting point is 00:58:27 No, you got to go. Got to go. So that's who knew about it. And, you know, if you remember, he tried to do it to the Jets. Eric Mangini. He said, hey, Bill, you know that thing you do? I will keep my mouth shut. Just don't do it to me.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Ocho, me and you used to rob banks. I said, but Ocho, you know what? Ocho, I'm going straight. As a matter of fact, Ocho, I'm investing my money. I got me a bank. Now, I know you rob banks, Ocho, but just don't hit your boy. Guess what you're saying? I'm going to hit your stuff on Friday at noon.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Oh, no. Okay, you are. Guess what? We'll have a bank robbery at noon on Friday. He's going to be driving a such and such. He's going to be wearing this. What you want me to do? I was going to keep my mouth. You mean to tell me you that cavalier that I said
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm going to keep my mouth shut. You continue to do what you do. Just don't do it to me. Right. What? Hey, Ocho, that man said, later for you. I would do it to you.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Okay. Because think about it. If Coach Mangini don't tell tell they're not stopping name the person that stopped something just say you know what i've had a john q moment i've had a change of heart i don't want to do this no more i know it's wrong so i'm just stopping out of the kindness because that's the type of person that i am. It don't stop. You feel more and more emboldened to do it because.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Right. Oh, no. So, yeah, it's tough because I like Mr. Craft. I don't know how much time you spent around him when you was there, but he... Yeah, he cool. Real cool. Real cool. He's always... He goes out of his way anytime he sees me
Starting point is 01:00:26 and you know i'm you know i'm talking he always touched me hey i love what you're doing i can tell you study i can tell you do your homework you're great i really appreciate it i know your parents your grandma are really proud of you he's always giving me my flowers even and he's like hey he said i understand you got a job to do and he's like you do a damn good job too so he he he'd give you he'd give you his credit so i've always you know and for the most part ocho all the owners when i when i've i've been in you know uh at the super bowl and go to their functions they they they you know hey they know i got a job to do i i don't i don't really know you well enough personally to attack you personally i'm talking about your team and it just so happens you own that team
Starting point is 01:01:10 so you know what you're kind of like collateral damage you know you don't say hey because that's how you know with your family hey you're talking about my brother you're talking about me that's my brother what the hell you think i'm supposed to do like Like, be happy with you? Even if you're telling the truth, I still ain't gonna like it. So, yeah, I get it. But, I mean, come on. I mean, what else can he do? He's on the committee. He's on the TV committee.
Starting point is 01:01:38 The man won six Super Bowls. The man, they went to, they went, I get it. But even after, even after, let's just say for the sake of argument you say you know what you won those three. You won the first three doing that. Hell they won three most wins.
Starting point is 01:01:55 What did that tell you? And they went to what? They went to five. They won three. Damn. No. Hell no. Let me take that back. They went to. No. They won three. they lost three because they lost to the giants twice and they lost to philly but they won three the nick foals play yeah yeah so i i do think i i think um um i do think mr. Craft is very, very deserving of being put in place into the Football Hall of Fame. Adrian Peterson, who earned more than $100 million during his 15-year NFL career,
Starting point is 01:02:33 he now faces a debt in excess of $12 million, and he's been ordered to turn over his assets to pay for it. According to the USA Today, a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property to satisfy the debt. Constables have been ordered to seize assets from his home. A court-appointed receiver has accused Peterson of playing a shell game in order to avoid payment.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Ocho. Ocho. Man. AP. oh joe oh joe man ap bro you made a hundred million and then he borrowed i think he borrowed like five million in like two years the interest so when you borrow money like that you gotta play like 20 25 interest oh joe so it went from 5 million to like 8 million in three years. It might be 50% interest. Ocho. But then you throw a birthday party and you fly everybody. I wish I might have a birthday party.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And I fly y'all in to come to my party? Where they do that at? He got camels. He got tigers. Dude thought he was talking for real. Man, listen, you know how I am. The chat know, hell, the goddamn world know how I am when it comes to finances. And I don't play that.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I don't play that. I don't play that. Listen, him being in this situation is very unfortunate. I wish him well and hoping everything turns out in his favor. I'm not sure how this works. It ain't going to turn out in his favor. He owe $12 million. I mean. And in front of the looks of it, he ain't got it.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah. I hope so. I hope he does. I hope he hope so. I hope he does. I hope he has some. I hope he has some. How you take out a loan to throw yourself a birthday party? You better go down there
Starting point is 01:04:36 and get about five or six dozen crabs and some shrimp and say, here you go. Who takes out a loan to throw themselves a birthday party unless you're what trying to impress the party goers i don't know that's crazy man 100 damn man oh joe how you oh Ocho you throw a birthday party and you bring in what he fly in
Starting point is 01:05:09 300 people 300 guests he flew in 300 guests I don't know 300 people and I'm 56 I don't know 300 people and I damn sure don't know enough of people to fly their ass to a mile's end.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Right. Man, you think I know 300 buckets or 300 burns? Hell no. That's messed up, man. He flew in 320 people. Ocho,
Starting point is 01:05:42 check this out, Ocho. Yeah. But guess how he flew him first class oh oh is there any way oh can you just file bankruptcy hey you think so if you ain't got no money it's hard to file bankruptcy you ain't got no money
Starting point is 01:06:03 because guess what your credit credit going to be shot. So what you going to put up for collateral? Damn. I mean, the more people you say, hey, can we get this? The more women you say, what, I'm going to get it with ass and mouth? We ain't got no money.
Starting point is 01:06:26 What am I going to pay with it? What am I going to pay to get what you're asking for? So if he doesn't have, the thing is, the best thing to have if you don't have money is to have great credit. You can have F-ed up credit if you got money.
Starting point is 01:06:42 You see how that works? But enough people don't care. And think about it. Anytime you try to buy up credit if you got money. You see how that works? Boy, enough people don't care. Think about it. Anytime you try to buy something, what are they going to do? They're going to pull them credit scores. Equifax, Empyrean,
Starting point is 01:06:57 Experian. At this point, they got three of them. Now, some might be a little higher than the other one, but I feel very good. Mine all start with an eight. I ain't going to tell you what else they got.
Starting point is 01:07:13 You know what comes after that. But I feel very comfortable. All three of mine start with an eight. Right. But okay. But I got a little bit of money. I ain't saying I'm the richest man in the world, but I got great credit and I do have a little cash. But I'm not
Starting point is 01:07:27 doing anything to impress anybody. I'm not buying no $10 million home. I'm not buying no million dollar car. I'm not buying people in. Oh, I used to have a party in Glenville.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Y'all can drive in. Hey, you're welcome to come. You ain't got to bring nothing. I got all the alcohol. I got 100 pounds of crab leg, 100 pounds of shrimp. We got like 200 hot dogs, 200 hamburgers, all that. Hey, have at it. But get there the best way you can.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Preferably, I prefer you to walk because you're going to be drunk by the time you leave. I don't want nobody to have no accident. Knock on wood. Thank God. We'll watch it over. Nobody got no DUI. Nobody got hard.
Starting point is 01:08:12 But I ain't impressing nobody, man. Man, who? Y'all know I got money. I'm playing in the NFL. I'm the highest paid X, Y, and Z. But I'm not going to impress nobody. Yeah. A fiend birthday party.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Blue jeans, t-shirt, shorts, flip-flop, sandals, whatever. That's the theme. I don't even celebrate my birthday. I just say me a little prayer. I'm glad to see another year. Give me a little Starbucks. Give me a
Starting point is 01:08:44 cigar, man, and kick my feet up. That's how I just feel. I just feel bad, Ocho, that people come in and... I mean, some people will never see a million dollars in their lifetime. And I get it. When you say he made over $100 million, you figure Uncle Sam will
Starting point is 01:08:59 take 50% of that. So that's $50 million. Let's just say, Ocho, I throw $25 million. I just throw 25. You still got to have 25 left. Even after your agent take his cut back then, they take what? 3, 4%? I don't know, 5% if they
Starting point is 01:09:15 pay for everything? Nah. And people are like, oh, kids don't live. Here's the thing. Yes, my grandfather told my brother and I, we were young, he said the worst kind of poor you can be is child poor. Don't let that go over y'all head, people.
Starting point is 01:09:38 That's an 18-year expense. That's damn near as long as your mortgage. Now, just imagine, your mortgage, just imagine your mortgage you got one because there ain't a people there ain't very many people that have seven mortgages so you start having five
Starting point is 01:09:53 six seven eight nine ten kids okay and they're not by one guess what Ocho that's 18 years I know I done done the math. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I done done it too, plenty times. Okay. So you know what that mean? That's right. That's right. Shannon, you ain't went on no vacation. Hell no. My vacation was right there.
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