Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Notre Dame wins, Dabo gets embarrassed, Ricky Pearsall shot

Episode Date: September 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Notre Dame vs. Texas A&M, Dabo Swinney's future after Georgia demolishes Clemson, Arch Manning's first TDs as Texas blows out Colorado State, Miami defeating Florida, and much more from the opening weekend of the College Football season. Later, Unc & Ocho react to the latest updates on San Francisco 49ers rookie Ricky Pearsall's condition after being shot in a robbery, and much more!04:44 - Notre Dame beats Texas A&M16:00 - Georgia Blows out Clemson32:22 - Miami beats Florida39:00 - Travis Hunter play both ways?57:41 - Ricky Pearsall shot in attempted robbery(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The game that just went off. Number seven, Notre Dame went on the road. Tucked down number 20, Texas A&M. 23-13, Jeremiah Love's touchdown with less than two minutes to go. Put Notre Dame on top. The defense held. Kick a late field goal, and they win by 10. Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame make a national statement on opening night. The defense was outstanding all game long.

The offense delivered in the clutch when they absolutely had to have it, and that's the mark of any great team. You get done what you need to get done when you absolutely, positively have to, and that's what they were able to do. Get a touchdown late, get a stop late on defense defense and they go on the road and get a win national televised game in a hostile environment ocho what did you like about what you saw from notre dame listen i i enjoyed it i enjoyed it not only from notre dame but i also enjoyed it from texas a&m the game was exciting throughout from the beginning to the finish.

Again, like you said, could you get it done when you need it the most? The game of football, whether it's at the collegiate level or whether it's at the NFL level, it's all about moments and doing what you need to get done in those moments.

And that's what Notre Dame was able to do on the road in front of a hostile environment of 107,000 at that stadium. But it was exciting. I'm not sure if I'm trying to figure out how do I say it would it be in the first game team just getting out there getting getting adjusted to the speed of the game you again you could practice as much as you want is it a measuring stick or a guideline to where Notre Dame is? Probably not.

Being that they were very successful last season, they had a great year. Texas A&M had an okay season last year. I think they'll be fine. But it's a good win for them, especially to be able to do it on the road. I don't think Texas A&M is in a good spot. That quarterback is going to have to play much better than what he played. The days of being able to play outstanding defense, outstanding special teams, and cover up your quarterback, those days are long gone. It doesn't

matter the level anymore. You used to play outstanding defense, play great special teams, and you can get away with marginal quarterback play. Those days are over. We see it now. When you have a quarterback, you can win. It doesn't matter where the location is, on the road, neutral site, or at home. You cannot hide your quarterback. You can hide every other position on the field. You can hide it.

I can roll coverage to protect my corners. I can make sure the safety stays back and shell coverage. I can stunt. I can do a lot of different things. Offensive line, I can slide the line one way or the other. I can send it back, says I need you to chip your way out before you go out. I can put a wide receiver in motion to help him get off press. What do I do with the quarterback when he has to touch the ball on every single play

unless you know you wildcat but I'm saying 90% of the time your quarterback is going to touch the ball and the days when you're trying to run the ball Ocho 50 times a game and win it nah, nah it's not going to happen but this is the thing when it comes to Texas A&M

when you have subpar quarterback play like we witnessed tonight, that means those around the quarterback have to be that much better than he is. And that's coming from, I'm talking about

from a receiver standpoint. They have to be that much greater. And they don't just have that at Texas A&M yet. Because if they did, it would have showed up tonight. The game, I don't think the game would have been as close

as it was tonight. They played outstanding defense. Yeah, they played defense. Texas A&M played outstanding defense. Yeah, they played defense. Texas A&M played good defense. Notre Dame played good defense. But the one thing that could have separated Texas A&M tonight, if they had, I don't want to use the word elite receivers, I mean five-star receivers that could actually take over a goddamn game,

and that is the only thing that could save you from subpar quarterback. They could have had Randy Moss. That's it. They could have had Jerry Rice. They could have had T.O. They could have had Megatron. With the way that quarterback played tonight, none of that was going to help. The way he was sailing the ball over the head, the way he was throwing

the ball in the dirt, nah. Ain't no bailing out. Now, I'm willing to give them somewhat of the benefit of the doubt to say it was the first game, but he's going to have to play exponentially better moving forward than what he played tonight. Think about it now. Even SEC,

Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma. Every week. Ain't no days off. Ain't no weeks off. Every week you're going to have to bring it.

LSU, Tennessee, that's what you're up against. You think you're going to trot that quarterback out there with the way that, for the most part, a lot of these teams in the SEC play defense. You think you're going to trot that out there and you're going to win a game? Nah, bro. Nah, they're going to feast, bro.

They're going to eat you up. Do you think they made the right decision on who they wanted to start at quarterback? Well, I think, hold on. When you look at it, you go through a whole spring training, Ocho. You have off-season conditions. You come back in the training camp. So clearly, he must have been the best guy for the job.

You don't really know. I mean, some guys, you know, we've seen it. Guys play really well in spring ball. Guys play really well coming back and then getting the game, and they don't play so well. So let's give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't know a whole lot about the kid. I'm watching it intently, just like everybody else is.

But I know this. That's what got Jimbo up out of there. And if your quarterback don't play them, now, Texas A&M got deep pockets. That's all money. They got real. They got NIL real. That's why it shouldn't be any issues. It shouldn't be an issues to compete at a high level.

That's what I'm saying. Because of your pockets, because of you having an advantage that other, other schools don't have. It doesn't matter how much, how much stock you have. If the stock's ain't worth the itch, you can buy all the stocks you want to,

but if you don't buy the right stock. So you can spend money on players, but if you don't get the right players. I think Coach Saban said something about that today. Like they said, Ohio State have a $20 million team. Coach Saban said it don't matter if you don't spend it on the right players. Well, we know Texas A&M got deep pockets.

That's got oil money. I didn't go back generations, but we've seen it before. They had the number one recruiting class, and what did they get for it? Nothing. So it doesn't matter how much money you spend. It only matters if you spend the money on the right things. Right, players, yeah. And so that's what Texas A&M is going to be up

again. We know with the SEC, year in and year out, they send more players to the NFL than any other conference. It is what it is. Whether you like it or not, all is up. Michigan notwithstanding won the national championship. But look at

Alabama. Look at Georgia. Look at the teams over the last 20 years. What conference? Probably 15 of the 20 national championships that was won over the last 20 years have come from that conference. The first rounders,

total draft picks, come from that conference. So you're going to have to get better at that position. Because everybody, look, the talent is there. Texas A&M got talent now. They got some four stars, some five stars. Are they Georgia? No. Are they Alabama? No.

But they got talented players. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if your quarterback can't get them the ball. They're going to have to be better. I like what I saw from Notre Dame. You know, Notre Dame, Marcus Freeman, he cut his teeth on the defensive side of football. They always play very, very good defense.

And when they need to have it, you see the quarterback was cluing. I thought it was the slot did a terrible job. He's got to make the corner. You can't give him a straight line. Did you not see the Super Bowl? If you give a DB a straight line, all he got to do is backpedal. He's cool. He's playing off.

He knows. This is what he knows, Ocho. Now, I'm going to two by two. The slot receiver released straight up the field. What the hell? I think the outside receiver running. A go around or a slant. A slant. Now now if he runs a double move coach gonna tell you son if he runs a rather double move that's on me that's on me that's on me that's on me yeah but when he ain't

when he breaks you drive as hard as god will let you he should have picked it. That's what he should have did. He should have picked it. So you study. I'm looking. Oh, you bubbling like that? Oh, this guy here, he ain't running no goal because if he was running the goal, you'd have kept a straight stem,

but you bubbled. But you didn't bubble enough because you got to make me bubble so I don't have a straight line to jet that ball. Yep. But give Notre Dame credit. I'm looking at their schedule.

They go on the road. They beat Texas A&M. I don't think they got but like three road games unless there's some neutral site games in there. I think they're at Purdue and I think they're at someone else. I'm not sure. Maybe USC. I think USC. Don't quote me on that, but I think so.

But when you look at that schedule, they have a very favorable matchup the rest of the way. Now, we know things happen, but they're going to be favored. I believe they'll be favored in every single game. Now, Georgia Tech is a little tricky, but they do get Tech at home. But, man, it is set up for Georgia Tech. Excuse me, excuse me. But Notre Dame,

their schedule is really favorable, Ocho. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. They're going to be all right. Texas A&M is now 1-9 when being featured on College Game Day. They're saying, don't y'all bring y'all ass back.

Ocho, Notre Dame is 1 and oh uh they got northern illinois they got at purdue miami of ohio louisville at home stanford at home georgia tech oh georgia tech is at the mercedes-benz dome navy is at met life which is in jersey florida state at home virginia at home army at yankee stadium and at uh 23 usc so they'll be favored in a large uh chunk of those games probably every single one of those games maybe maybe not tech it's gonna be close i still think they'll be listen listen i thought the same thing georgia georgia tech beat florida state right yeah georgia tech beat florida state If there's going to be a challenge somewhere down the line, unless Florida State gets their stuff together later on in the season, maybe that might be a challenge of some sort.

But I think based on the schedule you just told me, the only challenge that Notre Dame might have might be Georgia Tech. Might be Georgia Tech, especially coming in with that kind of confidence, beating the Florida State that most people, even myself, thought Florida State should run away with it. I'm thinking, you know, Florida State, a few four-star, five-star players, a school like that that gets some of the elite talent, especially from the Florida area, should beat a Georgia Tech team.

Obviously, that didn't happen. So if Notre Dame is going to have a scare or a game that's going to be good, it would be that one against Georgia Tech. The number one ranked Georgia Bulldogs seem to be in peak condition already as they dropped the hammer on Clemson and the Mercedes-Benz dome. Oh, Joe, I remember a decade ago, Dabo Sweeney said that if players started getting paid, he would exit. His ass still there.

Yeah, what are you waiting for? I think he understood. Listen, this is one of the same reasons. Nick Saban probably won't say it. This is one of the same reasons why Nick Saban, I think he left. He left. Davo Sweeney said it ahead of time without really saying it, understanding that the

playing field evens. You're at a disadvantage unless you open up your pocketbook. Davos Sweeney understood that. Nick Saban understood that. And he said, you know what? I'm waving my white flag. I'm going to let somebody else take over from now on. Check this

out. He's going to have to come to the conclusion the realization he's going to have to have an epiphany, which is a realization that if you don't get paid, if you don't get the transfer portal, you ain't winning. Yeah. You got to win.

That's the only way you're going to win. That's the only way you're going to compete now. I don't know who the boosters are over in Clemson. That is the only way you're going to compete with the better team. That's the only way you're going to compete with the Alabamas. The only way you're going to compete with the LSUs. The only way you're going to compete with the Georgians. Ohio State you're going to compete with the LSUs. Only way you're going to compete with the Georgians. Ohio State, the Michigan, all those big top-notch teams.

Yeah. Clemson is one of four teams. Navy, Army, Air Force. They don't accept transfer. A disservice academy. That didn't land a transfer. Didn't. Hey, Dabo, you said when they started playing players you were going to exit stage left

I remember hey you know another guy Coach K said I don't do one and done's no that ain't me until he started doing one and done's if you can't beat them join us you ain't got no choice you ain't got no choice you're not that good buddy

if you think you're just going to get high school seniors and that's what you're going to win with, bro, it's over. No. It is over. It's not going to happen. Everybody else is doing it. Look at the top 10 teams. And I was reading the thing.

I think it was the New York Times. Tell you what it costs to get a top notch. You're paying $700,000, $800,000 a top knot. You're paying $700,000, $800,000 for a quarterback. You're paying $400,000, $500,000 for a receiver. You're paying $400,000, $500,000 for a defensive lineman.

Can't beat them, join them. Dabble has to understand it is now a business. It is now a business. So we need you to evolve as the business model of collegiate football is evolving. And that is the only way you're going to continue to compete. I mean, your only way you're going to be able to continue to compete.

It's just a slight adjustment. You got to adapt. You got to adapt with everything else. You have to adapt. And that's the only way. Listen, he has a, he has a bio clause. It's goddamn $60 million. 24, 57 and 26

man come on now i mean and listen i listen it's not a bad thing though you have to stand clemson they play georgia yeah they play georgia this is the best team in college football is this a measuring stick for how good clemson is or how bad Clemson may be? They went 9-4 last year. This is not a game I want to gauge on how good we are right now. They went 9-4 last year. That was the first time since 2010 they didn't win 10 games.

Yeah. Hold on. You mean to tell me Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, all the top 10 teams can go in the portal but you think you good enough not to? Yeah, you ain't gonna have no choice

I'm trying to make something right don't you? Yeah, you ain't gonna have no choice I remember the time, guess what when them PWIs wouldn't touch a black Oh yeah USC said y'all don't want them, we gonna get them when them PWIs wouldn't touch a black. Oh, yeah. USC said, y'all don't want them? We go get them.

And then USC went down there and beat the brakes off Alabama when Sam Bale went down there and they drug Alabama. Yeah. Takes one to catch one. Guess what happened, Ocho? With Al Davis. They didn't want to take HBCU players. Al Davis says, okay, I'm going to go on up here and get me a couple of them.

A lot of the players that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame come from HBCU. Yes, sir. HBCU, yeah. Yeah. So Dabo can do all this. He can get on his pulpit and preach and pontificate all he wants to. Oh, I'm going to leave. They start, you ain't got no player. He had no problem. Every time Clemson give him aate all he wants to. Oh, I'm going to leave. They start. You ain't got no plan.

He had no problem. Every time Clemson give him a boost, he make it seven. He make it eight. He make it 10. He make it 11. He had no problem. Oh, the players. This is college.

This is man. Shut up. No plan for to get that money. Get it. Get it. And don't y'all go to Clemson unless they pay top dollar yeah listen you know if you want to win

times have changed you got to adapt to your surroundings you got to evolve just like technology same way the game has changed either you get with it or you get gone it's really that simple

it's simple but georgia look good georgia look georgia look uh the quarterback is unbelievable we know georgia's littered with four and five star recruits over the last five or six years at least since kirby has gotten there they're gonna have to have a top five recruiting class he knows how to get players he knows how to build a team. He was with Coach Saban for up-team years. He gets to go back to his alma mater. He's won two national championships, played for a couple of

the college football playoffs. He lost a heartbreaker to Coach Saban when Tua threw that touchdown in overtime. But this team, they're prime. They look really, really good. we know they're going to play very good defense they got a quarterback in Beck that's been a

starter in the second year they're going to be tough they're going to be a tough out now I'm not going to put all my eggs and say okay but they're going to be they're going to be right there they're going to be right there you think this game as far as Davos Sweeney

is concerned that Clemson should be thinking about moving on from him after this season but I'm sure that's why the first thing I said I don't really want to judge Davos Sweeney and the Clemson Tigers as the measuring stick going against goddamn Georgia that's kind of unfair oh sure there ain't a whole lot of... Could they? Yes. But everybody ain't got that Texas A&M money. When they tell Jimbo,

here, we got $70 million. Go ahead and go home. Ah. Everybody ain't write no $70 million check and say, go home. But Clemson, they got some boosters, but they ain't got it like A&M. A&M

got deep pockets. I don't think it's time for D'Avila to go. I just think he's going to have to adapt. The greatest key to survival is adaptability. He's going to have to adapt his way of thinking, thinking that he can just get high school seniors to come in.

Those days are over. And compete. You got guys that are all conference, that are all Americans, leaving. We've never seen that before. Addison. Addison was the Belinda Cup Award winner, and then he gets the NIL, and he goes to USC. USC.

So you see guys, all conference players, like, hey, such and such, they got $500,000, $600,000 for me. What you got, bro? Oh, you ain't got it? Don't worry about it. Yeah, hey, ain't no more, hey, in today's game, ain't no more projects. Not when I'm five-star, ain't no project projects. Not when I'm five-star.

Ain't no projects. We might start off in the projects. But it ain't going to be, hey, we ain't going to, hey, hey, hey, hey, mom, don't worry about it. I'm going to get us out of here. Yeah. Because I'm going to go ahead and do what I need to do my freshman year. And if they don't break bread to get us out of here,

I know somebody that will. I'm out of here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I don't blame them. I really don't break bread to get us out of here, I know somebody that will. I'm out of here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I don't blame them. I really don't blame these players. You know what I like about the NIL? Yeah.

Those that come from struggle, those that come from unfortunate circumstance, depending on how good you are at an early age, you can kind of speed up the curve as being able to take care of your family and get them out of, you know what, unfortunate circumstances. Absolutely. I love it. I like that part of the NIL, as opposed to the coaches complaining about it being an unfair advantage when it comes to the playing field being even as far as competing. I like the other side of it.

All the NIL deal is legal pay. They continue to do that. Hell, Alabama had nothing but challengers and chargers in that parking lot. So you mean to tell me every damn body love a challenger and a charger? Don't nobody like Ford? Right.

Don't nobody like no Corvette? Mustang? Don't nobody like that Corvette, Mustang. Don't nobody like that. So everybody just, so you go there, you only, you like challenges and charges. Yeah. Come on, man. Oh, they've been doing it. Yeah. They've been doing it.

And I ain't, I ain't got no problem with the players making that money. Oh, that's, no it ain't. I ain't no amateur. Cause I see the stadium field up there and a lot of them got on my jersey, got my jersey number on. Nah, bro. That ain't gonna happen. I'm gonna get some of that.

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The big story, Texas redshirt freshman Arch Manning, who's the nephew of eli and peyton manning through his first touchdown and he also rushed for a touchdown uh manning the number one recruiting 2023 class uh came in late in the game with the longhorn leading 38 nothing and led two scoring drives oh joe yeah what you thinking i mean it's expected texas playing colorado state you expecting that you know quinn errors had a really quinn ever had a really good game he's 20 20 for 27 260 three tds unfortunate bad decision interception other than that it was good because they played so goddamn well 52 zip blowout arch man he got the to get his feet wet a little bit get out there

and see what it's like because he's next up in line. You talk about NIL money? What you think he finna get because of that last name? What you mean? He already getting three million a year? I mean, oh, that's gonna be wait. Man, listen, by the time he get the

sophomore, junior year, it's gonna be way more than that. Oh, so he making three million right now and on the bench. Hey, that last name alone is going to command way more than that by the time he gets to his junior year. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, but I mean, listen, it's Texas. It's expected, you know, especially against Colorado State.

I'm not sure. I don't have their schedule right here in front of me. I'm not sure at what point it will get testy for number four, Texas. But they look good. They look good. They did. They did. First game playing in the SEC.

And they did what they're supposed to do when you play an inferior opponent. You're supposed to drive them. Dominate. That's what you're supposed to do. Don't be satisfied with just winning just skating by you dominate them you let them know that you're not on our level it gives you a sense of confidence this is what this is how we play how we do some things is how we do everything the opponent does not matter the only thing that matters is how we play. If we play the way we play,

good things will happen. And more times than not, we're going to have the type of victories that we had today. Not necessarily 52 to nothing, but when you play well, it gives you the confidence that you can play well against anyone. I know Colorado State is an inferior opponent, but I need to know that I don't play down to my opponent.

The standard is the standard, don't you? Yeah. It got to stay there. That's one of the things. Listen, that's one of the things that a lot of people have issues with, especially when it comes to collegiate football. Sometimes you play down to your opponent. You relax a little bit.

No. You don't step on the gas all the way. Keep your throat or keep your throat keep your foot on the throat as my coach used to say keep your throat on that goddamn neck no

keep your foot on the neck oh my bad what I said keep your throat on the neck but we got the idea of what you're trying to say yeah that ain't making no sense

my bad yeah but that's but that's what you do. I just believe in that, like, the standard. And people are like, they won, they won. Man, I'm telling you. I believe that I kill a gnat with a sledgehammer. Yeah.

Doesn't matter who I'm playing. Because, see, I do you a favor, Ocho. When I beat hell out of you, I let you know your team is not where it needs to be. See, if I beat you by a late second field goal or the game is close, you go in and tell your players, oh, that team right there, and we play with them tooth and nail. Nah, I want you to go in there,

hey, that's a great team over there. There's nothing to be ashamed about. Yeah, there is. We drub you. That means, hey, you need to go get better players and you know to go get better coaches to coach them up because that's what we do. We kick ass.

We take names. So the SEC also announced the horns down will not be a penalty in the SEC. SEC coordinator of football, John McDade, said if you took the act out of the football stadium and did it in the shopping mall or grocery store, would it offend the sense to the majority of the reasonable people in the area?

That signal would not. You might have some people that share the signal with you. What about the horns down? Are they going to do the horns down? Is that a penalty? I think everything is good. I think everything's good. I think all is fair in love and war. All is fair in love and war.

They make a play, horns down. You make a play, and you play for Texas, shit, motherfucking horns up. It's simple. That's a part of the game.

It's okay. It's okay. Number 19, Miami,ep ghost yeah gainsville and beats florida uh 41 to 17 um that was embarrassing the youth 529 total yards 385 passing 144 rushing they had 20 25 first down university of Florida, they had 261 total yards. They had 122 passing, 139 rushing. 17, they had two turnovers. Time of possession, almost 10 minutes in favor. Actually, it was nine minutes on the head in favor of the U.

Yeah. Hey, listen, I don't know what's wrong with Florida. I don't know what's wrong with Florida. Because at one point, there were three teams that dominated the college football level florida state miami and fsu i'm talking about in the 2000s now the f the the miami i saw today i'm not saying it's the miami reminiscent of the early 2000s. The Ray Lewis's, the Andre Johnson's, the Santana Moss's, the Roscoe Parish's, the Ed Reed's. I'm not saying

they that. I'm not saying they that. But I like what I saw from them today. I like what I saw from them today. Against not an inferior opponent, this was the Gators now. This was the Gators. They ain't got no Tito. Like Cam Ward.

They ain't got no Tito though. Like Cam Ward. Cam Ward. They ain't got no teeth, though, Ocho. These little baby Gators. They got baby Gators. These baby Gators. They ain't got no teeth. Their teeth ain't here yet. Hey, listen. This is good for... Listen, I'm from Miami. I didn't have

an opportunity to go to the University of Miami. I didn't have the grades to get in there. Rightfully so. I would have loved to do it, but I wasn't able to do it. I didn't have an opportunity to go to the University of Miami. I didn't have the grades to get in there, you know? Rightfully so. I would have loved to do it, but I wasn't able to do it. I am a fan of the program. Always have been. Remember back in the days, going to the, when Dennis Erickson was the head coach at UM, I was at the camps. I was at the camps

every summer. And that was my relationship to having a love and always wanting to go there. But again, listen, I was a knucklehead in high school coming out. I ain't had the grades to do it, but the U of M I saw today against Florida. I like it. It gives those here in Miami.

It gives us hope. It gives it, it gives us hope that we can compete and we can get 10, maybe not for a national championship, but it lets us know we going in the right motherfucking direction. Oh, Joe, Cam McCormick scored the hurricane's first touchdown

of the year he's a 26 year old tight end in his ninth year of eligibility you heard me correctly he's in his ninth year of eligibility between that explain between the red shirt and multiple serious injuries mccormick has extended his college

career far far beyond what is norm. I've heard a guy doing five, maybe six norm because you know, you don't show your red shirt, you're a fifth year senior. Sometimes I've seen guys have a couple of medical red shirts,

medical issues, and they're six. Nine? He went, he was in the same recruiting class as Justin Herbert. Well, god damn. Oh, but listen. Unfortunate circumstance. Injuries.

So I understand. Will he get an opportunity to play at the next level? Everybody start drawing some security. What the hell you do about playing at the next level, man? He might go get a job and start a family. 26, Ocho? So you don't think so?

I don't know, Ocho. I mean. Hey, just get him a shot. Get him a shot. His injury history ain't Ocho. He missed one, two, three. Basically, he missed four years with injuries. Yeah.

You know they're already looking at you sideways. You missed one year with injury. Oh, one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're looking at you like, oh. And they get you that thing and they start tugging on you and pulling on you and twisting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All this? Yeah. Four? Yeah, that's a red flag. It's a red flag. You know how them GMs think, you know, before they invest in you. But you have to think, even with the injuries, they can give him a little something just to allow him to live out his dream and give him the opportunity to try and make a team.

Because I know he just he don't just want to finish. You know what? Finish his collegiate career at UM. I'm sure he wants the opportunity to play at the highest level. And now that injuries are past him, I think he should be afforded that opportunity from someone. I don't know the injuries that he's had, but the problem is, will a team medical staff clear it?

That's the staff. They'd be hating, boy. Man, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, Ocho, you ain't finna get in the work of McCombs on me. Right. you ain't finna get into working my comp on me. I ain't finna be taking care of you. That's how they think.

I was very fortunate, Ocho. I had no injuries in college. I had a little Achilles tendonitis, but I didn't have any broken bones. I didn't have anything. So them tugging on me and pulling on me didn't bother. But if you had an ACL, Ocho, you'd have dislocated shoulders and things like that.

Man, they're snatching on that thing to see how sturdy it is. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, man. Hey, I'm sorry for you guys. Boise State, Aston Jinton. Jinty exploded in the junior season, Ocho. 20 carries, 267, six touchdowns, 56-45 win over Georgia Southern.

The six-touchdown total is a Boise State single-game record and tied the Mountain West Conference mark. Jensey took a counterplay 77 yards for a touchdown on his second carry of the year, and in the end zone, he struck the Heisman pose. What you thinking? Listen, I like that. You struck the Heisman pose. What you thinking? Listen, I like that. You struck the Heisman pose, right?

You struck the Heisman pose. I'm really not impressed with you doing against Georgia Southern. I want you to do it against all the competition, regardless of the level, regardless of who you're playing. Do it against everybody. Do it against everybody. I don't have one. Listen, I don't have. Listen, you striking the hygiene pose

against Georgia Southern in week one. Hell, shit, you got to be that boy. I need you to show up like that every week. It don't have to be six touchdowns. It doesn't have to be 267 yards. But if you're going to stunt like that week one against Georgia Southern,

I need you to do that next week against better competition. Man, Starley do that next week against Better Competition. The week after that. Huh? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Hey, he struck the Heisman pose. I need to see

Heisman work every week. Week in and week out. I like it, though. Aston Gentry, I like it. You got to keep that same energy, though, baby. Keep that same energy. Also, there's been a lot of discourse this week about if Travis Hunter will be able to play both sides of the ball in the NFL. Hey, yeah.

RG3, here's a tweet from RG3. Travis Hunter keeps showing that he can and should play both wide receiver and NFL full-time. Man has seven catches for a buck, 32-3 play both wide receiver and NFL full-time. Man has seven catches for a buck, 32-3 touchdown to wide receiver, played 43 snaps on defense, making the tackle, logging out, plowed the field. He's a unicorn. Bro.

Yeah. Hey, listen. I saw C.J. Gardner-Johnson, that's my cousin. He said Travis Hunter wouldn't be able to do it. He wouldn't be able to play

both sides of the ball at the next level. I think what people have to understand is there's a huge difference in the game. Collegiate ball, college ball,

and playing the NFL with them grown-ass men. They have kids to feed. They got bills to pay. They got miles to feed. They got bills to pay. They got miles to feed. It's different. It's different and the margin for error at the next level

is so much smaller. The level of competition is so much better. Everybody fast. Everybody quick. I mean, it can't... to me, I think based on

the way the market is, if I was him, I would want to be a wide receiver in the NFL. You make more money. I would want to be mainly a wide receiver in the NFL because they're getting $30, $35 million a goddamn year now. And the corners getting $21. Imagine what's going to happen after he gets drafted in three years from now, what's he going to be making? failed because they're getting 30, 30, 35 million a goddamn year now.

Imagine what's going to happen after he gets drafted in three years from now, what are he going to be making? Hell, it might be goddamn 40, 40, goddamn 5. Let me ask you a question. Is he more talented than Ty? No, no. Ty may play both sides of the ball. He played... Oh, wait.

RG3 talking like this man should be able to play both sides of the ball as many snaps as he'd like provide context in college yes in college yes in NFL it's impossible and the funny thing about Travis what I like about Travis he can do it

at the collegiate level he has the endurance of a long distance runner like about Travis. He can do it at the collegiate level. Because he's that much more talented. Yeah, he has the endurance of a long distance runner where he can do that at the NFL. Can you imagine a 10 or 11 play drive? And you think at the 10, 11 play drive

on defense playing DB, you're going to go on offense and then be efficient as well? That ain't happening. There's some things that he needs to work on. There's some things he needs to work on offense and then be efficient as well? That ain't happening. And there's some things that he needs to work on. There's some things he needs to work on, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to have to get better at release.

He's too high. He plays too high. Yeah. But those are the things that you can work on, Ocho. But, hey, they're going to put hands on it because he's already tall. He's already tall. So he's right there. And then you're going up against Jefferson. You're's right there. And then you going up

against Jefferson. You going up against Chase. You going against Tyreek. Now, hold on. Now, that's what you going up against on defense. Now, you going to other side. You the wide receiver. And you got Ramsey. You got

Diggs. You got Sertan. You got Jahir. Come on, man. You got Diggs. You got Sertan. You got Jahir. Sauce. Come on, man. People just see stuff. A lot of times people just tweet stuff just to get a reaction. Having played at that level and see, I'm a year behind Prime. I'm a year behind time.

And I saw him when he was playing both sides on the football and he was not playing every step he wasn't playing no 40 snaps on defense and 40 snaps on offense but he wouldn't be able to though no because something you can't sacrifice something you can't yeah you can't be efficient and great at what you do and do it on both sides of the ball with as much as it takes out of you at the highest level it's hard, it's impossible

what Travis Hunter can do because he's such a special talent is once he gets there you got to play receiver because of the market and the money that you can command and warrant because of how good you are. You do both. You can do it sparingly the opposite way Deion did it.

Deion always played DB and sparingly he came to that receiver on special packages. Mainly 95. He can do the same thing. Mainly it was 95 Ocho because I think somebody got hurt with the Cowboys. And he played. I mean, because if you go back and look at it, he caught a touchdown. Not a touchdown, but he had a big play in the Super Bowl. But if you go back

and look at it, he played he played, he was always the DB. He was always who he was and who he is, but he got a lot more reps on the offensive side of the football. They ran it with some reverses and they let him, They threw him the ball

because he had that kind of talent. You know he's talented. The hardest sport to play is baseball. He was a professional baseball player. Let that sink in. The hardest sport to play, because if you... Shohei Otani bats 300. He makes 700 million. So imagine

if you caught... They throw you 10 passes. you caught three of them. You're home. You're home. Just imagine. You'd be home. If you're supposed to be this great basketball player and you shoot 10 shots.

Now, 30% ain't even good from the three-point line. You gotta be in the mid-30s to the upper 30s for people to take you serious. Hold on, bro. You shoot 30 be in the mid-30s to the upper 30s for people to take you serious. Hold on, bro. You shoot 30%. Stop shooting threes. That's why I guess I don't see. I think the thing is because

time retired, time retired such a long time ago. People just don't realize how great, how great, I ain't say good, how great he was. He could have, had he not been as great as he was defensively, had he just said, you know what,

later for the DB stuff, I'm going to focus on being a wide receiver. He's going to the Hall of Fame as a wide receiver. That's how great he was. And I ain't telling you what somebody told me. I'm talking about I watch it with my own eyes. When you see him, you had to see him play. Like some things,

I understand that there's film, there's footage, or you see it in the stadium. But you need to be on the field level to see him play. You need, like, some things, don't you? Like, I understand that there's film, there's footage, or you see it in the stadium. But you need to be on the field level to see it. You need to be right there. Like, to see a Barry Sanders or to see Jerry. Up close. Man, time. See, that's the same.

I tell a lot of people that. I know I'm going to get off topic a little bit. I tell a lot of people that, like, we watch the Olympics. We see how fast Noah Lyles and tobago and all these young fellas are running but i think the casual fan doesn't understand how fast they're moving until you see it go to attract me when i when i talk when i talk about people always watching film on randy moss or seeing a film on on goddamn p.o and they, they were great. They just, or Tyreek, they just look at the numbers. Forget the numbers.

You have to see these motherfuckers up close and how fast and good they were in person. I'm on the field with you, playing against you and I'm in awe. I'm in awe. Watching. So I don't think people

understand. Yes, I understand their greatness in the French product that we see as in being Hall of Famers. But I got to see it from the beginning to the middle to the end. In person, live with my own eyes. And I'm like, God, damn. I'm on the... Think about all the receivers today. Think about the greats. The Justin Jeffersons.

The Jamar Chases. Devontae Adams. Tyreek Alden. Mike Adams. Whoever you want. Whoever ever sees CD. It don't matter. Nothing will compare to that era of T.O. and Moss.

It was different. Or even Jerry. It was just different. They're great in their own right today. But them fools back then. Oh, sure. I don't know how to put it into words. I don't even know how to explain it.

It's just different. We never going to see nothing like that again. Well, they've added games. And teams don't run the football like they did in the 90s. As much. When you see Chris Carter and you see Jerry and you see Tim Brown and you

see these guys with a thousand catches, think about how much they ran the ball. When I got to the league in the 90s, everybody said, pack your defense and your run game. Right. Yes, sir. You threw the ball on third down.

Or if you try to get slick and you got stopped behind the line of scrimmage on first down or something, you would throw it. If it was second and long, you would throw it. But more times than not, you ran the ball first and second down, you threw it. Every once in a while, you would swing it out there. You try to catch the defense off balance. But more times than not, you ran the football.

That's what makes Jerry the numbers that Jerry put up so effing impressive. 1,500 catches and mainly in a running era. Now, that's not to diminish what other guys have done, but if it was... The man got 208 touchdowns.

Do you know how many? Do people actually think about it? Jerry had 197 receiving touchdowns. 197. That's crazy. Randy is second behind him. He's 44 short. 150. 150.

Yeah. So how many touchdowns did Jefferson have in three years? I don't think he has 44. Who has 44 touchdowns over the last three years, the last four years? That's just how great Jerry was. Jerry had 1,000 yards receiving at 40. At 40!

That's crazy! Do y'all remember Jerry when he was at Oakland and they went to the Super Bowl? Jerry had 1,200 yards. Yeah, we played them. We played him and Tim was there. I think I was young. I might have been in my second or third year, something like that.

They still had the goddamn baseball field. Hold on. I'm trying to think. If I'm not mistaken, I think Chuck McNerrick was the last full-time offensive and defensive player. That had to be in the 60s. The last full-time.

I was also with Bo. I was in the league when Bo was in the league. If you go back and look at the film, when Bo ran over the Bronco players, I was on the sideline. That was my rookie year. He ended up getting hurt about two weeks later. He got dragged down from behind, popped his hip out the socket.

It was never the same. He didn't have his hip replaced. But I saw Bo up close. I saw it with my own two eyes. Had heard about all the stories and him catching the ball and running up the side of the wall in the All-Star game and then hitting the home run to see him on the football field and to see how he's built and like how man run that fans that size he's gonna be able to run that fans none but ain't nobody playing the guys it's great and this ain't no hate but ain't nobody nobody in the NFL gonna play both sides full time. It ain't happening.

Yeah, that's difficult. That's difficult. You know the type of endurance and shape you would have to be in to be able to do that? Can't do it. The guys, the athletes are too great. The guys are just too great, Ocho.

They're too great. I'm not saying that he can't do it spot duty. Okay, you want to run a couple of routes? Yeah, that's what I said. Sparingly. You know what I can see him doing? You know what would be dope? Red zone. This would be dope.

Playing receiver five. Yeah. Playing receiver full time, which you want to do. That has to be what he wants to do because of the market. It only makes sense. And then coming in on Nick on third down and covering the third receiver because he is just that

good. What you think? That's a possibility. I like that. That's a possibility. I like that. But boy, hey, he ain't covering no... I'm trying to think. Think about Travis Hunter. He get drafted next coming. I'm trying to think. Think about, think about, think about Trav, right?

Think about Travis Hunter. He get drafted next year. I say he going top three. I can see that. I say he going top three. Think about this. Depending on where he goes, week one, let's say just hypothetically speaking, he is playing both sides of the ball full time.

Imagine they playing the goddamn Vikings. And you got goddamn Justin Jefferson on the goddamn 11-play drive because you got to cover the number one receiver. And then you got to go play on offense and then got to deal with the Vikings' best corner. If I'm not mistaken, it might be

Byron Murphy. I might have the name wrong. I might be wrong. Just imagine that. And the amount of the amount of exhaustion it's going to take. You know what it takes to cover somebody like JJ

on a six, seven a seven play series and then have to turn around and deal with the Vikings best best corner. You see receivers. Who is also like that. You see receivers coming out on seven, eight-plate drives now.

Hey, give me a break. Hey, tapping that helmet. So what are we supposed to do? So you have this long drive. They kick off, and you got to go right out there. What you think? What you think the offense is? You trot your ass out there on defense

what you think the offensive coordinator going to do when you just had a long drive on offense and you was out there the whole time I'm going at you that's what I would do damn I like the thought of it the thought of doing it is exciting to it the thought of doing it is exciting

to me the thought of doing it I'm just understanding what it entails and what it comes with and how much energy you have to exert to be able to pull it off I'm just thinking about playing a god damn receiver and how difficult that is from a standpoint of

actually doing it especially when I'm going against one of them dogs. You see, week to week in college, you're going to see that dog every so often. I mean, you got. Boy, you got 17 weeks. You got 17 weeks of that boy. I mean, think about. Let me ask you a question.

Which one of those receivers he faced? Which one of those DBs you think playing on Sunday? I see it. Guess who he going to be playing on Sunday? I see it. Guess who he going to be playing on Sundays? Every one of those guys he faced on Sunday in the NFL on both sides of the ball. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I like the idea because he's going to get better. We saw JJ. Remember JJ? Had the outstanding season. He come in and caught a couple of touchdowns at tight end. Mike Vrabel. He played defense. used to come in on the goal line, catch a couple of plays. We see defensive linemen come in, they block, they play defense,

do a block, hell, snap, caught a touchdown. But to do it full time, basically, you're asking a guy to go out there and play 80 snaps, 90 90 snaps so let's just say there's 65 snaps a game both sides of the ball that's 130 snaps well we know ain't nobody playing 130 snaps so I'm just saying I'm being conservative Mocho and saying

try to play 80 90 I don't know the most I've ever played in the game Mocho I played 94 snaps 94 now I was a little older I wasn't young like Tr I played 94 snaps. 94. Now, I was a little older. I wasn't young like Trav. But 94 snaps, I don't know if y'all noticed, but 94 snaps is a lot of damn

plays. And I'm just playing offense. And I ain't running all them plays. I was tied down blocking some of them. Yeah, it takes energy to block, but not nearly enough to take you to get your ass down the field. And as a DB, what you think they're doing? lot of time them guys just running you off they ain't trying to block you they running you off make you chase right and then you see somebody break free

you got to go try to chase them down it's an awful lot and it sounds good in theory but i think i agree with you and your assessment full time on one side of the ball sparingly on the other. Nickel come on coming on third down. Go ahead. I like that no I'm just now you got me all excited talking about that I'm just thinking I'm thinking about all the scenarios and the possibilities where he where he could do it that's dope. Trav, if you see this, boy, hand in your business. I like it. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,

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Ocho, we got some really sad news out of San Francisco. 49ers rookie first-round draft pick Ricky Pearsall was shot in an attempted robbery. The 49ers confirmed that Pearsall had sustained a bullet wound to the chest, was in serious but stable condition. Pearsall and a suspect, a 17-year-old who's in custody with charges pending, were both injured in a physical altercation that succeeded the attempted robbery. Both were taken to a San Francisco General Hospital. DA office is planning to file charges

on juvenile court next week due to the suspect's age. Earlier today, Pierce Hall attended an autograph signing at Kyle Palace in nearby Daly City. This was all alleged over Rolex. Nah. Nah, he ain't

no juvenile. Nah, he ain't no juvenile. Nope. Hey, you gotta put grown man charges on him. Listen, there's another lesson in this for my athletes. For anybody out there that has nice items,

nothing is worth your life. Nothing is worth your life. You can buy another Rolex. You can buy another chain. If someone's trying to take your car, you can buy another car. Anything. If you are at gunpoint, you get a full possession. I don't think they pulled a gun out of him on first, Ocho, because I believe he gave it up like you said.

I think he probably tried to strong arm him and got to tussling. Yeah, see, don't do that. You only get one shot. This ain't a video game. Ocho, if somebody come up to you and they ain't got no gun, they ain't got no knife, and they say, Ocho, give it up. You taking it off that freely?

Yes. I'm not playing. Why? Why? Why, I'm not playing. Why? Why play tough? Why am I playing tough? Listen to me. If somebody come up to you and say, let me get whatever it is off of you, you already know they holding.

You already know they holding. Why even play that game? Yeah, man, here, you can take this shit. I can buy this again. I can't. This ain't Call of Duty. I can't I can't oh this ain't call of duty I can't revive myself I don't get a second chance at life

mainly Ocho like I said the man he's got an autograph signed at Ocho so I'm pretty sure it's probably in a probably in a fairly nice area I mean I've done a few autographs signed it and it ain't really no shady places.

Yeah. But you know, it don't matter where you're at. It don't matter where you're at. He probably, Jit probably knew he was there and waited until after the signing to confront him. But he thought he could take it. Let me ask you a question. You think that 17-year-old

going to run up and say, hey, Trent, give it up? Trent Williams? Exactly. Yeah. Shit. Stop playing. Oh, no. But I get what you're saying, Ocho.

Try not to put myself in that situation. You're right. You're absolutely 1,000% right. Yeah, I mean, I've been in that situation. You're right. You're absolutely 1,000% right. Yeah, I mean, I've been in that situation. But I didn't turn around. I took his word for it. He said, hey, you already know what it is. Hey, bro,

my wallet in the car. I ain't got nothing on me. I don't want no problem. Hey, I ain't got nothing. I ain't got nothing. That's what stopped me from taking, carrying cash around like that, Ocho. I just always carried cash. Hey, anybody that knew me when I was younger, Ocho, got that that's what stopped me carrying cash around like that oh so i used to always get anybody that knew me when i was younger oh joe if you ever saw shannon charles with less than 10 bands on it call the cops somebody just robbed it right around the corner

i kept it on me but then i was like man what? I'm inviting trouble? Yeah, you're right. You know, half the people, you can understand who really doesn't value their life. I can see the comments. I can see the comments. And you can tell who really don't buy their life about dumbass jewelry or chains or shit that

really holds no true value. Just by the comments. And folk don't care, man. They swear. Listen, you don't get two of these. You don't get two of these. You can't revive yourself.

You ain't going to try to talk to them or just say, bro, what you doing, bro? You can't revive yourself. It ain't, it ain't, you ain't gonna try to talk to him. You ain't gonna try to talk to him until he's a young man. Bro, what you doing, bro? You can't, you can't play over. Now,

hell, man, take this shit. Cause you know, the funny thing, you take my shit, you're gonna be mad anyway when you try to go pawn to the seller

cause it ain't real no way. So not, not shit. You done, you done, you done lost twice. Hey, you tried to get him on it.

Hey, hey, bro, hey, yo fella, go ahead and take this. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can. Man, go on about your business, man. I'm trying to, I'm trying to get him on it. Hey, bro. Hey, young fella. Go ahead and take this. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can.

Man, go on about your business, man. I'm trying to get home to these goddamn 85 kids. I ain't nothing wrong with that, Ocho. I told him. I get it. You're right. I mean, you're right, Ocho. You ain't wrong when you're right.

And you're right. You ain't wrong when you're right, Ocho. Just, hey, let old young fella have it. And he's been dealing with it. He's been dealing with some injuries. It's been kind of hard for him to get on the you right Ocho just a little young fella have it and he's been dealing with it he's been dealing with some injuries it's been kind of hard for him to get on the field Ocho because he's been nicked a lot and then this happened man

he probably thinking like Lord I mean you done blessed me but I got buzzed look right now because what's going on and it's like bro like I said but that 17 year old nah bro you ain't no juvie. I got to put real charges on you because you doing a real adult crime.

And think about it. He hit him in the chest. Yes! Right? And God obviously has favor. Ricky is okay. Now, what happened if he wasn't okay? Yeah, for sure. What happened if he had passed away?

You know? And I'm thinking, like, we don't really value life. We don't really value life until we lose somebody close to us. We don't really value life until it happens to us. You're right. Always. And then everybody's favorite line is, oh, you messed the city up with this one oh but nah I'm reading the comments

everybody tough oh you an easy lick but you never value it until it either happened to you or somebody close to you and then it's a oh damn you fucked the city up with this one twin you ain't wrong when you're right Ocho

I just talked to you the other day. Man, we so lost. Yeah. I just, everybody trying to get that lick though, Ocho. You know, everybody trying to hit a lick. Not everybody, but I'm saying. You know, people don't want to, everybody's gotten above working. Man, I ain't working at no damn McDonald's.

I ain't doing this job damn McDonald's. I ain't doing this job. That's beneath me. Let me go take somebody else to work hard for. Let me go take that up off them. And then when it ends, he ain't have to do him like that. He ain't have to shoot him. He ain't have to kill him.

Well, you ain't have to take that man's shit. When you're robbing somebody, when you doing harm to somebody, whatever happens, happens, Ocho. Mm-hmm. You know that's Ocho, you know that's us now. He ain't have

to do it like that. He ain't had to do it. Always. It's always our community, boy. Man, go out and get your job. I'm glad. Ocho, you know what I'm glad? I've never been too proud to work hard. People try to make me feel bad.

Man, you working in them fields, you getting tall in you. Because, I mean, you know, you get tall on your hands, you got tar on your hair, you out there getting black. I ain't never been too, I've never been too proud to work hard. Man, give me an honest day's salary. I give him an honest day's work. I can honestly say I ain't never took nothing off nobody. Okay,

I hit my grandma up a couple times for 50 cents a dollar, but you know, I gave him, I gave him Yeah, I hit Granny up, but I think, I think she forgave her baby. I think, granny up but I think I think she forgave her baby I think I made good on that Ocho but that's just me and the biggest

mistake that I've made a large portion of my my life Ocho yeah is that I think everybody thinks like me oh I'm gonna go out there and work hard I ain't gonna take nobody else's I'm gonna go out here and do the right. I ain't going to take nobody else's issue. I'm going to go out here and do the right thing. I ain't going to do that.

People look and think it's just the opposite. You know, time's a different time. It is. Time's a different time. You know, everybody want that fast life. We do. Everybody want that Instagram lifestyle. You know, it really ain't too many jobs that can provide that lifestyle

you see on Instagrams all the time there's a whole lot of it's only one it's only it's only one way to get that you know what i mean if you if you ain't on that goddamn field of that basketball court hell it's only one other route unless you're right i'll be your lifestyle and luxury entertainment or something you're doing something because ain't nobody that's working, that's worth money posting that money like that. No, no, no. Because, I mean, you post too much, they're going to come get it. Now, they're going to come see what you buy. Oh, they're coming to get it.

Shit, who can tell? They're coming to see what you buy. Who can tell? Listen, sometimes if you're doing it and you got to get it how you live, to provide, to provide, sometimes you got to get it how you live to provide, to provide. Sometimes you got you got to get it how you live. I understand that. I come from those circumstances at one point, too. I get it. It's unfortunate.

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