Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Nuggets blow out Clippers in Game 7, & who’s winning in the Warriors vs Rockets Game 7?!

Episode Date: May 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Quentin Richardson react to Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets blowing out Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers in game 7, Oklahoma City faces the Denver Nuggets in the first round, & who is winning the Rockets vs Warriors game 7?!01:47 - Introduction03:33 - Clippers v Nuggs29:06 - Steve Bomber flew out memebers33:27 - OKC/Nuggs45:12 - Warriors on the brink of blowing another 3-1 lead(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Nuggets crushed the Clippers. Don't let that 19-point victory throw you off. It was worse than that. They put the backups in, and the Nuggets, excuse me, the Clippers made a little run there. But 120-101, and the Nuggets move on to face the Thunder with a 4-3 series win over the Los Angeles Clippers. Tonight, I don't know what it is.

With James Harden, these Game 7s, Q and Ocho, but it didn't go well. He's now lost Game 7 with four different teams. Tonight, he was 2 of 8 for 7 points. With Philly, he lost to the Celtics going 3 of 11, 9 points in 41 minutes. With Brooklyn, he lost to the Bucs

going 5 of 17, 29%. And with Houston, he lost to the Bucs going 5 of 17 29 percent and with Houston he lost to the Warriors going 12 of 29 he did have 32 points but it took him 29 shots to get it I didn't think he was nearly aggressive at tonight as he was in game 6 Q and it showed what was he uh 2 of 8 1 of 4 2 of 2 from the free throw line uh he did have 13 assists but they needed a herculean effort they needed him and kawai to play like they played in game six in order to get them over the hump on the road in game seven and that didn't happen what what did you see that called that said you know what the clip is just not where i think they should be right now

q man for me i think they just got blitzed tonight. I think, like, you pointed out Harden's numbers, but, I mean, he did have 13 assists, and this could have been, like, if this was a competitive game, his numbers could have gone up, but obviously we know, like you said, it was a blowout early on, and, like, you know, Joker didn't even go crazy. It was like the other guys, the supplemental guys, really came out, applied the pressure, their tempo was up.

The Clippers were flat, surprisingly, for a game seven. They were flat. It looked like they didn't have it early on, and Denver mashed the gas and literally just blew them out. They looked good in the first quarter. They outscored. They had a five-point lead heading into the second, and then Denver goes on and wins that quarter 37-21.

And then they open the third on a 17-3 run, get it up to 17-3, and then get it up to 24-4, and they never look back from there. So between the second quarter and third quarter, the Nuggets outscored them 72-40. From down five to start at the end of the first, now you go to the fourth, and you're down 27. Yeah. And it didn't look good.

Yeah, I agree with you, Q. You look at Aaron Gordon, played sensational. He's been playing sensational. Because even when Joker, you know, Joker, you know, there was one game he had a 14-point triple-double, and they blew the doors out of him. But you get six players and double figures. Russ off the bench again.

An excellent night. 27 minutes, 5-9. Shout out to Brody. Yeah, man. He played well. Christian Brown, 21 points. Jamal Murray, 16. Yolk, 16, 10, and 8.

Michael Porter Jr. siding tonight. 15. And Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon's been doing a great job. He gets on the glass. He's scoring. He's doing a heck of a job on Kawhi Leonard. He's making Kawhi. Kawhi's hitting some shots, but he's making tough shots.

And you live with that. If I can make them tough shots, them spinning fadeaways and all that, hey, coach, he made a great play on me, but I'm right there with him. Ocho, you watched this game from the Nuggets standpoint. What did you like about what you saw from the Nuggets tonight? I mean, listen, I watched it from start to finish. The Nuggets dominated in every aspect of the game from the start to finish.

The Nuggets, they were shooting 52% from the field. They out-assisted the Clippers 24 to 16. They controlled the tempo. They had much more want to for it to be a game seven. It seemed like the Clippers 24 to 16 they controlled the tempo they had much more want to for it to be a game seven it seemed like the Clippers was flat you know like like Q said you got the one to be there you got the one to play obviously it's a you got a winner you go home they had no type of no type of reassurance like they really wanted to be there anyway Michael Porter Jr. delivered a two-way masterpiece out there. I mean, he had 15, 6'11", shooting, and six rebounds, but also the bench.

Joker did his thing. Aaron Gordon did his thing. Westbrook bought energy. He only scored nine points, but he bought energy. No, he had 16. Oh, he had 16? Five of nine. Yeah, he had 16 points.

Okay, five of nine was 16. The bench did well, too. But Westbrook energy, though. But that do something for a team, man. When he coming in, you know, he might have got attacked, but man, Unc. That was intentional. That was intentional.

Oh, he did it on purpose? You didn't see what I saw? Yeah, he did it on purpose. I thought he didn't want to let the rim go because somebody, he was going to land on dude. No, sir. That was intentional. You didn't see when he landed there. Yeah, he did that on purpose. I thought he didn't want to let the rim go because somebody, he was going to land on dude. No, sir. That was intentional. You didn't see when he landed.

Yeah, give me the tech and I don't care. Get him to up out of here. And yeah, well, the obscenity. Hey, listen. Yeah. You know, Russ is the emotional dude, the passionate dude. I loved it. I loved it.

Yeah. Look, if Russ is on your team, you got to ride the roller coaster because you know it's going to be ups and down cues. They're going to be high and they're going to be low. It loads, and you're just going to have to ride that wave. Some days he's going to give you this, and then some days you're going to be like, damn, Russ, slow. Okay, can you slow it down?

Like, okay, have one in your drink, not four. And, you know, because he gets out of control because he plays so hard on both ends of the court. And he's going to give you, that's one thing you'll never have to worry about. Russell Westbrook is cheating you. You're going to get your money's worth. Now, like I said, and you've got to

ride it. Tonight, he was what they needed. What was that game that they won on the road and they ended up what's-her-boy Aaron Gordon dunked at home? Russ provided the energy was that game that they won on the road and they ended up what's-her-name, Aaron Gordon dunked at home. Russ provided the energy in that game. I like this. Look, it's going to be a very interesting series

now with the Thunder and the Nuggets. Nuggets have been there before. The Thunder's been the best team in the Western Conference all year. Everybody wanted to see, well, when they play somebody that's been there with experience, let's see how they shape up. But looking at this game, the Clippers,

you know when you go on the road, bro, you got to take it. They're not going to give it to you because it's their fans. You've got to get the crowd out of it. If you don't get the crowd out of it and they mess around and get a lead on you, all of a sudden the roof is going to explode and it's just an avalanche. Boom. Colorado avalanche. And it just swells on you. all of a sudden the roof's going to explode and it's just an avalanche. Boom. Colorado avalanche.

And it just swells on you. And that's like, bro, and T. Lou tried to get a timeout, but I think what happened, T. Lou did something very interesting in game six. He inserted Nicholas Batum to start the second half. Now you're out of tricks.

He put Derrick Jones Jr. in the starting line-up for Chris Dunn. But at some point in time, they're like, okay, this is going to be our adjustment. When Nicholas Petunia's in there, because he didn't have near the impact that he had in Game 6 because it caught him by surprise. They didn't make that same mistake tonight in Game 7 because they know when he comes in, knowing that if it was a Petunia, probably going to be somebody else other than Chris Dunn,

because Chris Dunn is more of a defensive guy than an offensive guy, and they want space. They want space for Kawhi. They want space for James Harden. But for whatever reason, James Harden was not nearly necessary. But if you look at these numbers, Q, wasn't nobody really aggressive. Kawhi had 13 shots in 33 minutes.

And that's why I say we can't be that critical of Harden for having only eight shots. But he had, like I say, having 13 assists, you cannot be aggressive and have 13 assists out there. Like James was playing, he was making plays. And this is, like I say, because, like you say, the lead swelled and it became such a blowout, it kind of takes away from him his chance to go out there

because James Harden is the point guard. So him having 13 assists, he's out there doing his job because he was out there finding people and making plays and making things happen. It's not like he's two for eight and isn't doing anything else. He had 13 assists and five or six rebounds. He was out there playing, but the blowout robbed him of his chance to accumulate

and go out there and get aggressive later in the game, whereas when he come out, people may say he should have came out being aggressive as opposed to trying to get guys into the game. But I feel like he came out playing a pass first game trying to get his teammates going and saying, like, I can get my game off whenever, but I can get my game off whenever it didn't come

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen, based on what we saw tonight for the Nuggets, I know the Clippers didn't show up. They didn't play well. But based on what we saw tonight and them having to play the Thunder in a seven-game series, how damn good do you see the Nuggets team now that the bench, we know what the starting five are doing. Now that the bench is contributing the way they are,

what chance do you have against them, against the Thunder? Well, the thing is, Russ is mainly the bench. They don't get a whole lot. DeAndre Jordan really doesn't play a lot. He played tonight. Yoke got in foul trouble in the third quarter, and he came in there, but he doesn't normally play a lot. Every once in a while, they'll insert Peyton Watson,

and he mainly plays, but for the most part, they play five guys. That's what they play. They play five lot. Every once in a while, they'll insert Peyton Watson, and he mainly plays, but for the most part, they play five guys. That's what they play. They play five guys. They run their starters, and they play Russ. Russ will get extended minute, and Peyton Watson will come in somewhere anywhere between 10 and 15. If things are going really well, he might play

tick, hit 20, but for the most part, they run their starters. And that's what you do. Man, we ain't got no deep rotation. What you mean rotation? Guys going to be playing. Tell them, Q, guys going to be playing somewhere between 38 and 42 minutes on a nightly basis.

As you go further, they play more. Hey, respectfully, I just felt like moving forward, whether Denver won or lost this series or whatever happened, I felt like when they fired Michael Malone, that they weren't serious about competing for a championship. We all are former athletes, fellas. When have we seen a team that's serious about trying to win a championship fire their coach who also won them their only championship in franchise history three games before the

playoffs begin. Wow. I've never seen that my entire time in the NBA. I've never heard of that. I mean, you guys can correct me if it happened in football, but I've never seen that in some team go on and not now. You do have Joker, who was all world, one of the top two, three guys on the planet and playing.

And he can get you so much. And you've seen this series that they've had guys jump up and play and raise to that level, but I think the bug definitely stops here with OKC. Like you just said, they play five, six guys, and this is a young team. They go

8-9-D. They got 3-D. They got trumps, and what's the best position in the league? Wings, right? Wing players are three and D guys. They can play both sides. They can shoot threes and play defense.

They got trumps in that. They got plenty of them. They can send one in and send another one out and keep on rotating. So, like, then they got the ultimate trump in SGA. And I don't feel like, I feel like he's the equalizer. I don't know that Denver got no answer for that. Hold on, Q.

So basically, you and Y'all on the same page. So you're saying the Thunder's going to win the series against the Nuggets? Yeah, I got the Thunder for sure. Okay. Yeah, it's going to take a Herculean effort from Yolk and Murray. Now, did you get that Murray that you got on the road? Yeah. No, that was home. That Murray that dropped

43? I don't, listen, my questions don't even come with Joker or none of that. I just question, I feel like Joker and A.G., Aaron Gordon, like, first of all, A.G. is a championship player. Like, I feel like he's underrated. He's one of the best blue guys to, like,

slash, do whatever you need, Swiss Army knife type guys in the league that can score 30 or score 10 if you need them to, not be a guy that's got an attitude, going to show up with the work pick and go to work every day and give you everything. But I feel like those have been, like, two of the most consistent players for the Devs. I don't have any questions about either one of them.

But like you say, if Jamal Murray show up like superstar Jamal Murray, that could change the series and it could make a real contest if he does that. But I think he tips the scales one way or the other, whether he play. If he plays really well, this could be a six, seven game series and anybody could win it. But if he doesn't really go out there and play at an all-star superstar level, the Thunders not about to be contested by them. If he's not playing and giving you

20 to 30, they don't have enough firepower. Yeah, they need Laker Jamal Murray, the guy that played against the Lakers in no back-to-back series. That hit game winner that was letting it go and routinely being in the 30 points. They need that guy.

Hold on. Let me say this one time, though, because you just brought him up. What happened to the Lakers? Lakers are fine. What happened? Hold on. I can't be on here and not ask that question. Because, listen, listen, I was one of the people that was early on when they did what they did.

I'm like, man, JJ, my man my man, my friend. They looking good. They had a legitimate chance, but what happened? Q, they needed a bid. You can't, I mean, look, look. And the Mark Williams kid would have been great because he could defend and he could score. When you got Jackson Hayes, and Jackson Hayes is only playing four minutes, and now you go Rui and LeBron.

So whichever one's playing the four, the other's playing the five, that's a small, small team. And you saw Rudy Gobert look like prime Shaq. He looked like a 2000 Shaq, 2001 Shaq, 1999 Shaq. So if you told me Rudy Gobert was going to give you 27 and 24, I said, man, get that bleep out of here. That man ain't never scored 27 and 24. And that's what happened. I mean, look, get that bleep out of here. That man ain't never scored 27 and 24. And that's what happened.

I mean, look, Ant-Man did his, the role players for the Timberwolves played much better than the Lakers. You look at Nas Reed. Every time he was asked to knock down a big shot, he knocked it down. McDaniels,

he knocked it down. You get the, the, the, the consistency of the steadiness of Mike conley the vincenzo came in and gave you some quality minutes but ant-man did his thing but rudy gobert didn't have the size and you can't you can't normally what happened rudy goes bear becomes unplayable in situations like this especially late in the fourth quarter dude i did a whole game

how y'all let rudy stay here like this? Not like that. Just stay out here. He was the most dominant force in the league that night. Yeah. We'll be back. Big Drew. Next year. Wait, what did you think of Ant-Man walking from the Staples?

Yeah, you see the head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wrong for that. He wrong for that. He wrong. And that was that. That was dope. That was dope. That was live. You love that Ocho right there?

He walking. Like a little six-minute walk from the, I'm sorry, the crypto. I'm old school. You see the Clippers jersey. I call it. I can't get it out of my head. But from the Staples to the Ritz over there, like a little six-minute walk, I think he wanted to go ahead and enjoy it.

Yeah, he walked all the way around the whole gut to the building. Man, listen, there are a few players in the NBA that are like that, and he's one of them. He's one of them. All I know is this. He's accessible, and he's relatable. That's why he should be the face of the league, whether he want to or not.

You know what I think makes him so relatable, though? Think about what I'm about to say, fellas. Especially about the NBA. When you think about, if you take Allen Iverson out of the equation, because AI was, he won the one. He did it his way and that was just it. If you take AI out of the equation, right? if you think of the last 20 30 years every hot shot superstar or about to be the guy rookie that's coming to the league they more careful than ant-man you know what i'm saying like like ant-man

like they most guys won't come out and say yeah i'll give me, I'm a dog this dude, I'm a dog that dude. Yeah, I want to play like, like most guys would say the politically correct thing just because that's the right thing to do or whatever, right? Like Ant-Man foregoes any of that. He literally says whatever he's thinking at that point. Like, yeah, like, what you mean? And the part about it is, like, that we, that I feel like our community relates to it is the brashness.

He walking it like he talking. Talking, yeah. And the boy building up a resume is to go, like, by the time he get through, I don't know who going to be all on that hit list, but it's like, the way he walking people down and talking it, and he only 23 years old, and he, like like really out here like

cause the thing about it is like when you watch MJ and the Last Dance where he's sitting in that scene and he got the bat and he got the cigar he like yeah anybody can talk on they way up he like take a real man to say it before they have that man out here talking it before during and after

you feel me like we love that. But at the end of the day, Q, it don't matter. If you don't get the rings, you're just going to be talking. Listen, we all know that. All I'm saying, you got to get that. Trying to go.

That's factual. But what I'm saying is that he's building up a resume on his work. He's taking out Katie and Bull. He's taking out LeBron and Luka. He's taking out all the greats and won their first one. He's only 23. So what I'm saying is there ain't a lot of people that did what he did

on their way at 23 yet either, though. Yeah. I still think he needs another piece, though. I mean, I love you. And Drew Randall was unbelievable. But you know what you're going to get with him. He's a solid guy. He's going to get 20 and 10.

He's going to bang on you, bang on you. And, you know, Ant-Man going to give you what he gave you. But Rudy Gobert, I thought. No, Jaden McDaniels, I thought his game, because there were a couple of games that that first game, he was sensational. Ant made all the right plays with the assist total. And then that game four, they let him go haywire.

They let him get, what, was that game three or game four? He went haywire and got 43. When JJ, you know, he's the smartest guy in the room. I'm going to run these guys LeBron on 40-0 leg, 46 minutes. Luka on that body, 46 minutes. You can't do that. You can't. You got to steal. When they up by 10, body, 46 minutes. Yeah. You can't do that. You can't. You got to steal.

When they up by 10, steal your two minutes. Say, I don't care, guys. You come down and get shot clock violations. Just get me two minutes off the clock so I can get LeBron and I can get Luka two minutes. That's all I need. Because LeBron was dead tired. The man took two shots.

One of them was terrible, and one of them he just blew a smoke delay up. Yeah. He was tired. Ain't no way around it. 40-year-old legs playing 46 minutes, Q. First of all, you know what it's like to play 46 minutes in your 20s. Now imagine that. No, you're right.

30, 35, 40? You're right. You're right. But in JJ's defense, man, like, we, and I'm not calling any names, but, I mean, we all have examples of veteran championship coaches doing some of these same things that leave us questioning what was going on and what was happening and why the decisions they were made. You know what I'm saying?

I feel like when I look at the overall body of work, J.J. did a great job this season. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he did. Did they come up short? And I feel like also the expectations got kind of blown out of proportion at a certain point because they had done so well. And we got to give J. give JJ and that staff that credit

for coming out of the second half, having a total different look from changing from having Anthony Davis as an anchor to going and getting Luke and then still coming out and making their team look formidable and rushing and surging to the third seed is what was made everybody get all of these thoughts like they could actually win,

when in reality the roster was never really fit to win it can really compete truly but people gotta you know fans are fans and even us as as analysts and and people that's been a part of the game we kind of get caught up in the moment sometimes but like they when you really look at like you said they didn't have enough when the Mark Williams trade didn't go through that kind of was it in a nutshell like i felt like what we saw from him post trade showed that he could have been formidable for them if they would have made that trade and they would allow it to go through but for whatever reason or unbeknownst to us they didn't do it and that's what it is but i felt like from that point, they truly weren't a championship roster. But the greatness of LeBron and Luka gave us the feeling that maybe they could carry him there.

But they just couldn't at the end of the day. Look, Clippers got the richest owner in pro sports, had a healthy Kawhi. It didn't even matter. You know why? Because we had buddy passes. And we wasn't going to Cancun until our partners. So, you know, a buddy pass, you fly two for one. You know what I'm saying?

Don't you fly two for one. They'll be coming in shortly. I'm sorry. We have some technical difficulties. We really don't, but we're just waiting on the Clippers to join us at Cancun. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. Oh, y'all thought y'all was going to be celebrating, huh, Q? I know you got a happen. Oh, y'all thought y'all were going to be celebrating, Hocky. I know you got the little jersey in the back.

You thought y'all were going to be celebrating. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you're not. No, you're not. Man, that's a size 60. That ain't no little. What you talking about my little jersey? You know how black folk do.

When we get on the car, oh, I see your little car over there. I see you got your little jersey that's exactly what we do what are you doing I ain't got

nothing about that I was just talking about the Clippers so we all know how we feel about the teams

that drafted us we got a special connection with them so you know that's why that's back there that's what that is hey Q

you know how we do it you get a job oh you still in that little job? You still got that little job? Right. What you mean little job? You still got your little business you're doing over here? Yeah.

My friend has got to be little, bro. Hey, that's us. That's our people. Every time. Yeah, I mean, Q, I know you were going to come over here and gloat tonight. You know, the clip. But you know, you're going to say, Look at the fire.

You know what I'm saying? You're going to come on here and gloat. But I had already put that call in to Yolk. You know, normally Ocho put the call in. But I put that call in to Yolk. And Aaron Gordon said, look here, man, I need y'all to handle this for us. Now, y'all took darkness out of the playoff two years in a row. I need y'all to do us a favor because y'all got to thank for them L.A.

teams putting them out of the playoffs. He's like, we got you. And now, see, I lost my ability to glo i because i i'm really i'm down here in orlando you know i'm with the magic so i'm riding with the young boys down here so don't worry this year we had some injuries and some setbacks we're gonna be we're gonna be barking loud you know yeah yeah oh they legit yeah yeah we get Suggs and the brother Mo Wagner back. Mo the one who chippy. He the one who bring the physicality and get a little chippy out there.

But once we get back to full strength, and I'm excited to see what they're going to do in the offseason and whatever they do to adjust this and that. But we got a good young coach. We got a good young team. We got picks still in the draft. And I think we got flexibility to improve or whatever they're going to do. And we're going to be ready.

But I still got Boston, so I wasn't coming here to brag on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm rolling with JT and JB over there. They fully loaded. They back ready to go. Well, you definitely going to have to, if y'all going to talk

about to come do something in the East, y'all definitely going to have to get past them because they ain't going nowhere anytime soon.

That's a fact. That's a fact. Oh, yeah. Hey, check this out. Steve Ballmer flew out members of the wall to Denver

for game seven tonight. Steve Ballmer covered airfare, tickets, buses to the game. You think more owners should do things like this, Q, Ocho? I love it. I mean, listen, not really.

Ballmer's an ultimate fan, so, you know, that's dope. What'd you say, Ocho? Not very many owners are open like Brother Ballmer, though. Not very many owners get worth $120 billion either. Okay. Let's start with that damn open.

But listen, even despite his worth, you can see he's really invested, not just the team, but the players and the fans as well. He's different. He operates different as the owner. Not like most. So I don't see other owners even taking Can you imagine Jerry doing something like that? No. If you look

at him, he's a more amp version of Mark Cuban. Q, you remember how Mark Cuban was on the sideline with the team? That's a good one. Now listen, I'm going to tell you even past the fan standpoint,

when Mark Cuban came into the league, even if players didn't really act on it, everybody wanted to play for the Mavs just because of the way they was getting treated. Oh, yeah. They had the planes. They had the new facilities and everything. That's how Balmer then made it.

He's like, everything they do for them is like second to none. Everything is top tier, second to none, like top notch situation and everything you hear about it. And it's like, the players love the way they get treated. Like not just the player, like you say, the families, the fans, like when this dude flying out that many fans, it's like, yo. And he genuinely excited to do it, too. Oh, yeah.

He's doing stuff like, man, if I could have did this, if I was a fan, that's the type of stuff he's really gifting to people. But it's like, for real, a fan's dream because he's the biggest fan. And that's what I was about to say. He's a fan that had a boatload of money and said, you know what? I want an NBA team. And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pay four times the asking price

because prior to that, the most a team had ever sold for was Sacramento over 500 million. It drops 2.2 billion. Hold on. I have a question. I'm not to be counting nobody's pockets, but his wealth,

how do you attain his wealth? Microsoft. He was ceo of microsoft okay okay okay okay okay and uh and so when you do and so i know the owners were happy like whoop because we ain't never hey ain't nobody going down so from that point on it's three billion and you see the celtics just sold for six point six point one billion yeah and he bought I think he purchased them for like $400 million. So he's got 15 times his own return. Well, they call it 15X. Now, you say 15X. It's 15X his money.

But like you said, he's a fan. Look, a lot of times, I don't know if like Steve Barmer strikes me or the guy Q correct me if I'm wrong. Even if he didn't own the team, he would go to the game and be acting just like he does. These other owners, they're not going to the game and behaving like that. They're going to be up in the bar. He would sit right down

there on the floor and behave in the manner in which he would behave. Because you could see the enthusiasm pouring out of him. He'd definitely be a guy you'd love to play for. I mean, look. Hey, don't worry about the tax payout. I don't want y'all money.

I'll build my own stadium. There you go. Hey, don't add no sales tax. Don't bring the hotel tax. I got all this. Stay dark. And watch this. I'm about to put more bathrooms and y'all can believe in this thing

and I'm going to be hyped about it. Yeah, because he's like, he don't want, he don't want, he don't want nobody to miss any part of the game. So he don't want no long lines. Right.

Gotta love him. You got to. I got to, I got to check that arena out, man. You been there? You been there already? I haven't been there. I haven't been there. I haven't been there.

They just opened it this year. The All-Star game is there next year, right, Q? I think so. Yeah, I think so. I got to get out there, too. I ain't been out there yet, neither. Yeah, I want to check it out. Thunder Nuggets Western Conference Semifinals.

Thunder, eight days rest. Nuggets, 24 hours of rest. Q, who do you have winning and in how many games? I hate picking the games and all that. I got the Thunder winning. I guess I would say about six games. That's what I was going to take. I was going to take the Thunder in six also.

Would you like it on, Joe? Man, listen, I like, damn, that's what I was gonna take I was gonna take the Thunder 6 also would you like it on Joe? man listen I like damn that's a good one I like SGA I like the rest of them boys I like the bench but them damn Nuggets man they not too far removed from a championship

they got experience being in the playoffs I know they don't have as much depth but I got the nuggets in seven. Mmm. Oof. I mean, SJ is a load, man. And the thing is that, look, when you got, they got two

bigs, they got Chet, and they got Hartenstein, they can throw at Yoke. They got depth, as Q was talking about earlier, they got wing defenders. You go Ludort, you got Caruso, you got Wallace, you got Isaiah Joe, you got Williams. They got depth. As Q was talking about earlier, they got wing defenders. You go Lou Dort. You got Caruso. You got Wallace. You got Isaiah Joe. You got Williams.

They got five guys. Five. So at all times, they're going to have two to three premier wing defenders on the court. At all times. There are very few teams that can say that. Yeah. I mean, as a matter of fact, there ain't no other team that can say that,

that can have that many wing defenders I mean, as a matter of fact, there ain't no other team that can say that, that can have that many wing defenders on the court at all times. Because Lou Dort and Lou Dort and Williams, Williams is the guy that's going to, they'll probably put on,

no, they'll probably put Dort. I think they're going to put Dort on Jamal Williams, Jamal Murray. I think they'll go and start with that. And they all could make a three. Huh?

They all could defend, but they all could make a three, too. Yes. I think Kristen Brown is going to start off on SGA. I don't think Gordon will start on him. Gordon matches up better against bigger guys, not as quick guys. SGA is a little bit too, I think he's a little bit too quick for

AG, although that body might wear him down. Let me just say this about SGA, right? Y'all saw how many times he scored 20 points in a row, how many times he scored 30 points? Yep. That means can't nobody in the NBA stop him. Regardless of size, regardless of skill.

I'm talking about, regardless of anything, Ocho, the numbers showed it. Look at what he averaged. Look at how many times he scored what he scored. When you do that in the NBA, that gives you the right to look. Spin me around with my eyes closed and stop me wherever I

look. Nobody can't guard me. I'm a directional pointer. They cannot guard me. That's what he has shown. And this ain't just one. This has been two, three years running after 30 and putting up 30 this many times and 20 like, bro.

Efficient 30. You can get 30 and shoot 45%. He shoot no as a guard to get that many points and to be that efficient. There ain't a whole lot of guys that's ever done that in the NBA. He could say, you can't guard me.

And they could ask you, they could ask him, who are you talking to? He'd say, whoever listening. Whoever listening, whoever heard me, they can't guard me. You know the thing is, Q, when you're dealing with a player like that, you're right, but I'm going to make it as tough. I'm going to try to make it, you get that, you get 32, but it's going to be inefficient. You're going to shoot 10 or 27.

That's what you're supposed to do. I'm not going to let you go 19 or 26 on me because now, all of a sudden, that's going to be damn near 50 because I know you're going to get to the foul line. You're going to get to the foul line at least 10 times. Now, the thing I like about the playoffs, they don't call that tiki-tac stuff at the playoffs. You got to damn near draw blood to get a foul in the playoffs.

Hey, man, you see he ain't played in about, when the last time he played in the playoffs. You got to damn near draw blood to get a five in the playoffs. Hey, man, you see he ain't playing about when the last time he played like a week and a half ago? Yeah, like, that's because they was dishing out that work. Mm-hmm. You know the thing is,

birthday parties, he chilling, doing commercials and stuff, like, he ready. The best game for the Nuggets to steal is game one because they might be a little rusty with all that time off. That's not a real thing.

Huh? That's not a real thing. You don't think so? No. I feel like that's a narrative that we use after the result of the game comes out. If OKC come out game one and beat them by 20, nobody's going to say nothing about rust they're gonna say oh no this they're gonna say the rest was good for them but like yeah clearly

if they lose they'll say oh they was right nah we as athletes know like bro you could go you could have a week of rest or you could play the next day if it just depends on how you feel right i ain't got nothing like you know i'm saying some of us that had some of my best games on the back to back or your best games and you dead tired but you didn't think you was gonna have but it just you know i'm saying like to me that's that's the narrative that we use or it's easy to use after the result of the game comes out how many times during the regular season do you get eight days off? Outside of all-star break, you don't. That's my point.

You normally, because you can't simulate what you actually do in the game by doing shooter rounds and them scrimmages, five on five or three on three or whatever you guys do. There's nothing like game situation. Right. A game situation. Right. Those guys haven't had a game situation

in a very, very long time. And if you look at it, I thought the Lakers having all that time off. No, what you call them? They was already locked into the three seed. I mean, the six seed once they won that game. And I think the Warriors lost. But we'll see.

We're going to see. SGA is going to be interesting because I think, like you said, I think Christian Brown is going to start on SGA. But I think the thing is people don't realize how tall SGA is. He's not a small guard. He's 6'7". You know the people looking at him like he's 6'3", 6'4". He's not.

He's tall as hell. I've seen him up close. He's taller than you think. And he's more physical than people think. Yeah. Hey, Unc, you think them having so many days off going to this next series, you think having that much time off, it do more harm than good? Or you think the opposite?

I think the thing is that that first game, because a lot of times, especially at home, you're like, you try to feel your way in, you try to let the crowd build up, and teams race out to a big lead on you. They get you. So that's why it's like, hey, let's go ahead and try to get this first game.

Because we know that we're going to get that best effort. And since we're here, we might as well try to stay as two. But, yes, I think the best game for them to try to get is game one. Because they're not getting game two. So what if they come out and smack them game one? And what if them eight days were used to, like, hey, we had some guys that had some little knick-knacks, bang, little, you know, something. They didn't got healthier.

And they had to practice and ramp back up and get ready for the games, and we still got healthier too. Because like you said, when else during the season do you get eight days to rest? You don't. So whatever knickknacks you get, we all know them coming with you for the rest of the way. What about rhythm of shooting

and doing all those things that you normally do every day or every, excuse me, not every day, but every other day or every two to three days? They're a young team. For all intents and purposes, they shouldn't have been having no days off. This is a young squad. They're a young team. NBA, they average 24 years old for their team. So maybe they take a day or two the first day off, but even then,

y'all should have been in and out of the gym, getting activated, doing some weights, doing something, just getting some shots up, not going crazy, but they shouldn't have had days where they didn't do anything. That'll be a drop in the ball if they've actually done that. They should be, all of these dudes are young boys. They ain't got no real OGs or old heads on their team like that to really be like, we not doing nothing today. Every day they should have been doing something, even if it's

light load. They should have been coming in and just getting some free throws, getting some treatment, getting their body activated and just staying ready. Yeah. Well, they ain't nothing to do in Oklahoma. So, yeah, they should have been in there anyway. You're absolutely right. Ain't nothing popping off in Oklahoma. I don't know if you ever been to Oklahoma,

Ocho, but ain't nothing popping off. Hey, man, you forgot I went to Langston University. Oh, I forgot you did with the Langston. Yeah, I went to Langston. Yeah, I know about steel water coil. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I didn't really stop the ground for a little bit. So, you know, ain't nothing jumping off.

So, you're right. That's why they're so good. Imagine that young team in Miami, Atlanta, L.A. Ooh. Out of distractions. Lots. Lots. Guys can get focused.

Sometimes that's the best thing. Go to a destination. Ain't a lot popping up. You can focus on what you need to get focused on. You can get done what you need to get done. Right. But SGA was going to be what he was going to be in L.A. You see that maturation.

You see it year after year. That dude got better and better. Better and better. Better and better. He got a step back. He's a three-level scorer. He can get all the way to the rim. He got a middie.

He got a three-game. He got a snatch. He going to the free-throw line eight to ten times a game, and you mess around, he might go 15. Mm-hmm. They see E.K. James.

But the young kids need to understand out there the way he got this swagged out, the way he got this cocky, this confident. Mm-hmm. Repetitions. Yes. It is a gym rat. This don't happen by mistake.

Every move, the young just named it. Him doing it that smooth and making it look that nice, that don't happen by surprise. That don't happen by surprise. That don't happen because he rolled out of bed and he, nah, that's reps. That's going to the gym constantly and putting in that work to where it ain't even a question. When he go out here, he already know what moves he could call on and he set them up and lay them down because he done did it a million times. It's a documentary at this point.

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The series only 13 times has a team come back to win. The Warriors know all too well about blowing a 3-1 lead. Is there one of the 13 teams to do so? Q, who you got tomorrow night? Oh, man, this is a tough one for me because, you know, game seven, you throw everything out the window, but

I cannot roll out with the light-skinned assassin and Jimmy Bucket and Draymond just with the experience they got, man. Like, if I'm wrong, I take that to the chin. But just with the inconsistencies of the young boys over there in Houston, I got to vote.

No inconsistency of Jalen Green. Go ahead and say that. Everybody else. Hey, Fred Van Fleet, the last five games have been on one. Hey, listen. I feel like we don't even respect, like, Fred Van Fleet is a champion, a dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, he got to get proper respect.

He doing what I expect him to do. He over there, and, like, win, lose, or draw, Houston Rockets is going to be back. Win, lose, or draw. They going to be right back like they forgot something. They got, he may got them boys growing. I love what, I love, you know what I'm saying? Like we talking about Van Vliet being a veteran OG out there. People to get

it done and impact the game and be able to show them and say what he's saying and it means something because he out there. So I like what they got going on. But even still with that being said, I don't know. You got, when you got, when you got that little dude number 30, all it take is if he hit one, it's now we in the matrix.

He turned into Neo and everything else. It don't matter. We done all seen it happen. The game could hinge on that right there. If he come out and make one shot and start looking funny, if he give you a little shimmy, it's curtains. You know what I'm saying? It's like it'd be a long night, and it's like, I don't

know, like you say, with the to me, when I say inconsistencies with Houston, it's like they don't know where they gonna get they scoring from from night to night. It's like, it's nice, like, you know who leads them in scoring, and you know who you would expect to do it, but like, it's not concrete., you know who leads them in scoring and you know who you would expect to do it.

But like, it's not concrete. You can't hang your hat on it like, all right, we're going such and such from this player or that player. It's like, it might be anybody. And when you got something like that, it's hard for me to roll the dice with that. Yeah, look, Shingun has been sensational.

He's been doing a great job. He leads them in points, rebounds, assists, and steal. I thought I may, inserting Steven Adams, he was the difference maker last day of the night. He gave them rebounding. He gave them toughness. He did all the

right plays. You know, he went to Hacker Adams. He made 9 of 16. And sometimes I think that takes the team out of their rhythm because now you don't get a flow, you stop. You don't get to go up and down. But I don't know what Fred Van Fleet did from games three through six. I mean, four through six.

But he's been on one. I mean, he's been on one. I mean, I'm talking about he's coming down on the break, and he's like, no, you're on the basket. I don't want the two. I want this pull-up. I want this 26-foot pull-up. And it's been money.

I like what they're doing when it comes to Steph because he tries to come off that pick. They double him, make him get a ball up because I don't believe. Look, Draymond, I'm not worried about Draymond. You know that Draymond always take the first shot because he's wide-ass open. They're going to leave him open too. You not going to make eight open too. You're not going to make

eight of those. Steph Curry can. So you shoot as many of them as you want, Draymond. We're not going to worry ourselves with that. But what we will worry ourselves with is to make sure Steph don't get a don't catch foul on us. Keep Jimmy Butler off the free throw line

because you know he's going to attack the basket. It's going to be interesting to see Steve Curl, how does he play this thing? Because remember the other night he started Gary Payton second. He went away from his normal lineup with Pozimski. So does he go back to that queue or does he still, does he ride, does he ride with Gary Payton second again? Or is Moody inserted into the starting lineup? What's he going to do? I might start Moody and bring GP up because he's a pace changer to me.

You know what I'm saying? He comes in and is supposed to raise the energy and things like that if it's not right, try and get some defensive energy going. I would start Moody to see. I mean, I like what Moody's been doing. He presents a lot of length defensively, you know what I'm saying? And I would start him. He's been shooting the ball.

I mean, not as well as you want. But he's made some big shots. Yeah, he's hit some big threes. He's shown that he'll knock down a shot and he'll make some plays, drive to the basket. And like I say, most importantly, he got a lot of lean defensively and that's you know that's always big in these games oh joe what you thinking the warriors gonna blow another three one lead absolutely not you know curry not having another bad game like that listen even with even what they try to do trapping him you know

making making all shots contested it's's not happening. Listen, the Warriors have a championship pedigree, and there's no way in hell they lose a game seven. Not like this. It's definitely not going to happen. I think Draymond can do what Draymond does. Jimmy Butler, like you say, he's going to get to the basket. Whether they try to stop it or not, he's going to be aggressive. He's going to be playoff Jimmy like we used to see him when he was with Miami.

And Curry, he's going to cook. He's going to cook, especially after that last game. He's not going to have another performance like that. I think Dre might need to make sure he stay within himself. Because I think sometimes he gets going too early and he kind of gets himself

out of rhythm. He gets early fouls. He gets tanks. And now he knows in a game like Game 7, they're going to probably get a tank early because he knows they're not going to throw him out. They don't want to impact the game like that. So he has a very good understanding

because most players that do what Draymond does, oh, they'd be gone. They'd be teed up. Woo! Or when you say woo, take that with you on the way. Yeah, you out of here, bro. Yeah. Or when you say, woo. Take that with you on the way. Yeah. You out of here, bro.

Yeah. But they wouldn't do that to him in the playoffs, though, huh? No, that's what I'm saying. He knows that. But I think sometimes it gets him out of his game. Now, sometimes he riles himself up. He gets the team going. But it had the opposite effect the other night.

It got the Rockets going. Yeah. They was proud of them on the glass. I mean, they crushed them. They crushed them on the glass. They had 25 offensive rebounds. That's part of Draymond's superpower, though. He got to play with that edge. He got to play with the way he play. That's part of what

makes him him. If he doesn't play like that, he's not as impactful or as effective as he can be. Now, I agree with you. He got to toe that line and tuck it in when he need to, but he absolutely got to play like that to be the most impactful and the best version of Draymond Green. Like you say, he can't step over that line, but he got to toe it.

And plus, that big lineup that Houston go out there with Sam Adams, with Steven Adams and Shingun, the Warriors can't match up with that. That's why Adams and Shingun, the Warriors can't match up with that. That's why Adams and Shingun was killing them on the glass. You don't want to play Looney. You really don't, because he don't really give you a whole lot offensively. He's set picks

and he can rebound, but Shingun is going to punish whoever on the offensive end. And so now you got big Adams. They're like, okay, now you take a shoot off the floor. We want you to play. You know, they try to put Post out there who's a big

that can stretch the floor and shoot that. But he's a little bit too inconsistent. So if I may, I'm going to keep listening Curry. I'm going to try to get the ball out of his hand as much as I possibly can.

I'm going to trap him every chance I get. He goes to that corner. Hey, let the big guy roll. We can come from, we can get your help backside. But we're not letting Curry get no easy shots. Listen, we talk about Curry. We talk about Jimmy.

We talk about Draymond. We ain't talking about the elephant in the room. What is Curry going to do about Kaminga? Obviously, you're mostly one of your most athletic players. He lived in a football game against the Rockies. In the games during the regular season against the Rockets, he averaged the most points for the Warriors against them. So it only makes sense.

It only makes sense in the Game 7 to put him in there. I don't know if I was going to be. Steve Kerr said Jonathan Kamingo returns to the rotation of the 100% on the table in Game 7. 100% Kamingo is on the table. We kind of found a formula here in the latter part of the season. We've stayed with that formula to start this series up 3-1.

Things are going well, and obviously the last few games have gone very poorly. We have to assess everything, the lineup combination, starters, all of that we have to assess. I don't know why he fell out of favor and what happened with that, but did y'all see him the last time he got in the game?

He didn't look like he was like, he didn't look locked in and looked like he would be. I hope the young fella do get out there and ball out of his thing. But on the list of everything that he did last time, it don't look likely. Don't look like he's mentally there. You know, like when you a young fella like that, I don't know how easy it is for you

to get back into it right hey Q when you have a coach that that is not playing you and you don't know what's going on

or what happened obviously we don't know from the outside looking in what happened internally but for you to be one of the best players on that team

that can contribute on both on both ends of the court and then not get any playing time, it has to be something. It has to be something that we don't know publicly, but

I hope his confidence is there. After not playing for so long, sometimes something like that can do something to your mental. Obviously, when he does get in the game, is he going to be gunshot? Is he going to be scared to pull the trigger? Is he going to be hesitant? I mean, if it was me, my boy, I'd be like, listen, I can't take it personal.

He benched Jason Tatum. Who am I to be mad at him? Okay, okay, okay. That's a good one. I'm going to just take it like a champ and keep it moving. That's a good one. You feel me? That's a good one.

I mean, real talk, though. Yeah, I don't know what Kaminga's done, but he's definitely been out of the rotation, and he's one of the more athletic guys. He can defend. He can get all the way to the rim. He can occasionally knock down the three. That's not his strong suit.

But for whatever reason, hey, he don't even get no mop-up minutes. Like, damn, hey, let me break a sweat so I don't have to get on the bike after the game. Hey, Q, he can't even get no cardio in. He have to get on the bike after the game. Q, he can't even get no cardio in. He got to get on the bike after the game, after sitting. Like, I'm all still, and I got to get 30 minutes on the stationary bike. And then you're saying he was getting shots up after one of the games and everything. Like, that's a little bad signal.

Like, yeah, I'm hot. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he probably said, hey, y'all ain't going to play me. Get me out of here. Let me go somewhere. Hey, let me go somewhere. At least I can contribute. I can play.

I ain't saying, hey, look, I'm not saying I'm SGA. I ain't saying I'm one of the five, ten best players in the NBA. But damn, I see guys that I know I'm better than, and they're getting 10, 15 minutes a night. I can't get that. Yeah, I know a perfect place for him, too. He'll be moving around. I know the perfect place for him, too.

Man, ain't nobody coming there. I know the perfect place, bro. Right here. You think somebody always want to go to the Miami Heat with them 1955 rules. Hey, listen. It ain't as bad as you think

it is, man. Look at the guys that go there. They have some of their best years of their careers when they go there. And look at the guys leave. I saw Dwayne Wade leave. I saw Jimmy Butler leave. I saw LeBron James leave. Now, that's three of the best players that you've had in the last 15 years. Now, tell me what I don't

know, Q. What you doing? Hold on, hold on. Let me finish up. You can chime in, Matthew MQ. We all got family, right? Yeah. Sometimes you get married, Chantel, your uncle or your cousin or even your

mom, boy, your brother or sister, right? I like that. I like where you're going. I ain't leaving him. Hey, look, he didn't leave for good. He left and went over to his auntie's house and then he came back over here and back to uncle's house. He came back. You think Jimmy coming back?

I didn't say Jimmy came back. I was talking about D-Wade when we said that. Oh, yeah. Okay, what about LeBron? LeBron going back to Miami? No. I said family. But I'm saying the mere fact that family left. If I leave the house, yeah, I might

come back when I'm on hard cash. D-Wade was a different type of family. D-Wade was drafted homegrown there. That's Dade County. And he left. You can't say the same for LeBron or Jimmy, so it wasn't that same type of county and he left you can't say the same for lebron or jimmy so it wasn't that same type of thing q he left and came back and they both admitted that it was some wrongdoings and reasons why they left and they came together and pieced up and it's all love yeah yeah this is

from them this ain't my love but i see d wade is part owner in the utah jazz he's sitting courtside in utah jazz why isn't he sitting courtside in miami it's family now no no time now time now d wade do be sitting courtside in miami he got a statue in miami and he's a smart businessman and deserving and deservedly so but we can't act we can't pretend like people aren't fed up with Pat Riley and those archaic ways, Q. That's not being true. You hear it. But it can go two ways, though.

You got to understand that some of those same ways that people being critical of are the reasons for some of the most brilliant careers that you talk about. The best version of LeBron James that you know was right there under those arcades. Tell me I'm wrong. I still like LeBron when he went back to Cleveland. No, you ask anybody in the league.

That LeBron James, them two years back to back, please. Yeah. Please. That was hell on wheels, boy. You hear me? Like, please. You're talking about.

Okay. Okay. Let's say that. Okay. And then what made LeBron leave? Okay. He had his best years. And then what made LeBron leave?

You're doing a 27-game winning streak. What happened, Q? I don't know. I didn't hear. You know what happened? D-Wade said it. Norris Cole said it. Cookies being taken away.

I didn't hear about it. I didn't hear about Cookies being taken away. I didn't hear about all type of stuff. But I also heard that some of the same things that he ran from that he tried to take with him and bring and bestow on these other organizations when he went there. So it wasn't all bad. Listen. You already know, Rich, Mav is going to

be there every day. Mav is my chief of staff. Not Mav, excuse me. What's the other one? Randy. Randy is going to be there. Have you ever seen LeBron James anywhere without Randy? I have not. Whether it's out in Vegas, whether whatever the case may be,

Randy is going to be there. So Cash shouldn't let him be there. Oh, he going to be there. You want it? He's going to be there. Don't want it. But you, hello,

you already know what you, when you sign up, if you get, if you get Giannis, what, you see what the Giannis brother is? Where he at? Hey, time out, time out though. You just said you already know what you get whennis, what, you see what the Giannis brother is? Where he at? Hey, time out, time out though.

You just said you already know what you get when you sign up, right? Yes. You can't say that and then say that LeBron came to Miami as a free agent. Yes. Knowing that the Godfather

was the Godfather and the Godfather do what the Godfather does and he always has. You signed up for that. I did, but not to be petty and take some damn cookies away. I ain't. No, no, no.

You didn't clean up. Listen. You took cookies away like I didn't clean up my damn room. It could have been a headband. It could have been anything, but the cookies is what set it up. But, like, this is what you signed up for when you signed up. I ain't signed up for this. I signed up to come down here to get structure.

I wanted to play with D-Wade, Chris Barge. And okay. It got you two championships and it showed you how to go on the rest of the way and be a champion. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. And when we talk about,

we talk about the heat of the old, let's talk about the new heat. Let's talk about the new heat. It doesn't matter. It's still Pat running it. Don't say they're about to get somebody no oh yeah i've been trying to tell you i've been trying to tell you i already i already know that's what you that's what you that's that's what people always understood and knew pat riley the godfather is always one move away how did he got got Kevin Durant yet. I don't think he's going to get a draft check and then they win a championship.

He always willing to swing for the fences and do what needs to be done. But he don't have the draft capital to do it. What are you going to do? Think about it. He couldn't get Kevin Durant. He couldn't get Dame Lillard. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Kevin Durant. What do you think it's going to take for him to get Kevin Durant?

He's going to have to give up the hero and bam, then what? Who can he get? I don't think so. I told you who he's going to get. I already told you already. At Q, I sat down with Pat Riley and Mickey Harrison. I done told Robert Ory. I done told the ISO Joe.

I done told Joe already. And I'm telling you too. I told the Pat. I sat down with Mickey Harrison. And we're Joe already. And I'm telling you, I'm telling you too. I talked to Pat. I sat down with Mickey Harrison. And we going to get Giannis. We going to get Ja Morant. I'm trying to figure out what are you going to do. But see, here's the thing.

The only handful of team that have the pieces, they want assets because they gave up all those assets to get said players. Q, you know how this thing works. A lot of times, like, man, I want to go over there. And when you get there, they had to gut it to get said players. Q, you know how this thing works. A lot of times, I'm like, man, I want to go over there. And when you get there, they had to gut it to get you. And so now you're there in the same situation you're in where you left from. They're not going to be able to.

I don't see how they get to Kevin Durant in Miami and keep Bam and Tyler Hero. Oh, you're talking about Duncan Robinson and Hotsmith? Hey, you'd be surprised what these deals shake out once these players step out and say that they want to be moved. We've seen, like, guys ain't been, like, been yielding what you thought. Like, when you look at what Rudy Gobert got in his trade

and then the trade. He got four first-rounders. Rudy. Yeah, what started happening after he did that? Nobody was getting all of them first-rounders. Rudy. What started happening after he did that? Nobody was getting all of them first-rounders, and it was looking like, how did Rudy get, you get Rudy for all of this, and you get such-and-such for all of that?

That it wasn't going the same way. They're not giving as much up, especially when these teams, like when you get put in that pigeonhole, like a player come out and say, hey, I want out. I want out. Like, you done. You done. Like, sure're done. You're done. Like I said, we ain't got to be at your beck and call

because we're basically helping you at this point because your dude just said he want out. So no matter what happens, you got to get out. Or your situation is blown up. So at that point, if they exhausted to a certain point, it'll get bad. See? I told you, huh? But here's the thing. Why it didn't get that bad? Why it didn't get that bad?

They couldn't pull the trigger for Dame Lillard. That question, I mean, I don't know the answer to that. I thought that was a done deal like everybody else. Because they didn't want to give up Tyler Hero. I don't see a scenario where a team doesn't get Tyler Hero back as a piece.

Do you see that scenario? You never know, man. I didn't see it. I didn't see a scenario on the planet where Dallas was trading Luka, but look what happened. Yeah. So, I didn't learn my lesson. Like, I didn't see Shaq get traded, you know what I'm saying? MJ left the Bulls. Like, I didn't see Shaq get traded.

You know what I'm saying? MJ left the Bulls. Like, anything can happen. In the right circumstances, they'll do whatever they feel is the best. That's just how it go. And then they're going to tell you that's good business. You know what I'm saying? It's what's best for the organization.

That's why I don't be mad when players go do what they got to do. Mm-hmm. I don't see it. People have been talking, people have been, Pat Riley's supposed to have done had Kevin Durant. When Kevin Durant was a free agent, when Kevin Durant got traded,

when Kevin Durant was a free agent and Golden State, he didn't go, he didn't, well, LeBron was there, so he couldn't go there. Okay, when he became, when he goes to the Knicks,

I mean the Nets, then what? No Pat Riley. He gets traded to Phoenix. Still, no Miami Heat. I mean, the Nets. Then what? No Pat Riley. He get traded to Phoenix. Still, no Miami Heat. At some point, Ty, I want you to give up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen,

I'm letting y'all go back and forth about it. Hypotheticals. I already know what's going to happen. I told you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to work on the bench later on. Let me ask you this. When you get Giannis and Ja, is Hero and Bam still there? I didn't get to that part yet. I didn't even want to ask that.

Bam's not going nowhere, for the record. Let me just let both of y'all know. Bam's not going nowhere. No, Bam, no. He's the new Alonzo and UD. He's not going nowhere. It'd break you. He's not going nowhere.

That's how they keep this thing going because they find that one pillar and they pass it on to the next one and bestow it on to him. He'll be there. He'll be there. Yeah, it is. And I don't see a scenario where a team, they're going to want Tyler Hero. You know that, I know that.

Now, maybe Phoenix said, well, we got Devin Booker we really don't need Tyler Hero because they basically play the same position they both basically twos Phoenix need a point guard that's what Phoenix need Phoenix was at their best when they had Chris Paul let's be all the way with you

Devin Booker can handle the ball but he's a two guard I didn't like when they got rid of CP I thought they would have been better even when they got Brad Bill, Devin Booker can handle the ball, but he's a two-guard. I didn't like when they got rid of CP. I thought they would have been better. Even when they got Brad Bill, Devin Booker, and KD, I thought if they had Brad Bill, I mean, CP, they would have been better off with that score. I agree.

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