Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Nuggets eliminate Lakers, Celtics go up 3-1

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Denver Nuggers eliminating the Lakers and the Boston Celtics blowing out the Miami Heat to go up 3-1 in their series. Also, Unc and Ocho react to reports that the 49ers are "planning for life without" Deebo Samuel or Brandon Aiyuk in 2025, new Chicago Bears WR Rome Odunze already embracing the NFC North rivalries, and much more! 0:00 Show starts3:10 Nuggets Eliminate Lakers17:10 Celtics beat Miami22:40 Travis Kelce Extension26:00 49ers on life without Deebo or Aiyuk33:15 Rome Odunze embracing NFC North rivalry37:10 Jarvis Landry Comeback39:30 Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul42:55 Man Cut his homeboys off #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have pinned the link at the top of the chat. So, again, thank you. The Nuggets advance to the second round with a 108-106 in one of the best first-round games, one of the best first-round series. Yeah, it was 4-1, but for the most part, the games came down. Jamal Murray, two game winners, game two and game five. The Nuggets win

108-106. Jamal Murray had 32 points, seven assists, and I mentioned the game winner, Nikola Jokic, 25 points, 20 rebounds, nine assists, one assist away from a triple-double, and Michael Porter Jr., 26 points, big shot after big shot after big shot. LeBron had 30 points, 11 assists, nine rebounds, four steals.

Austin Reeves, 19 points, four assists. And D-Lo had – AD had 17 points on 8 of 11, 15 rebounds, four assists. But we saw him get injured early in the third quarter, and really they just needed his presence because he didn't really score any points after that. He wasn't the factor that the Lakers needed him to be in the second half. But give the Nuggets credit. The Lakers were the best clutch team in basketball, Ocho.

Last five minutes of the ballgame, game within five. Are we still on mute? Yeah, I can't hear you. Oh, yeah. Chad can't hear. Chad is having technical difficulties. Guys, if you think about it, the Lakers were the best clutch team in basketball. The last five minutes of the ball game, game within five.

And they got beat by a team tonight that executed down the stretch. And if you're trying to win ball games like this on the road, you can't go 18 or 27 from the foul line. This is two games. In both situations, Aaron Gordon out-wrestles two Lakers

for the rebound. He kicked one in game two to Michael Porter Jr., who drains a three. He out-rebounded. He took the ball away from LeBron and D-Lo. You got to have that if you want to win on the road. It's a nip-tuck ball game.

He kicks it out. Murray hits another three. Those are the type of plays that you have to make on the road if you want to win. And the Lakers normally make those plays. That's why they're the best, was one of the best, that was the best team in clutch situation. All of that

doesn't matter now. The Nuggets advance. Jamar Murray was sensational when he absolutely had to be. Nikola Jokic was yoked. And Michael Porter Jr. hit big shot after big shot after big shot. LeBron, 30 points, 11 assists, one rebound away from a triple-double.

Four steals, Austin Reeves, 19 points, four assists. AD, 17 points on 8 of 11, 15 rebounds, four assists. The Nuggets beat the Lakers on opening night. They beat the Lakers when they unveiled Kobe's statue. The Nuggets beat the Lakers when LeBron became the first player to score 40,000 points. And the Nuggets beat the Lakers to end their season. Ocho, I thought the Lakers had him.

I thought I was looking good. I was looking good. You know what? It was a nail-biter. It was a nail-biter all the way to the end. I think if one of those two rebounds towards the end of the game would have went the Lakers' way, I think the result in the end of the game would have been different.

That goddamn Murray, man, coming off that pick. Do you understand how difficult that shot was to be going to your left, to be able to lose your defender just enough to create a little space to get that shot off? But you're going left and you're shooting to the right. Then you think, man, that's the second time he didn't hit him with the dagger at the end of the game. So, yeah. Go ahead, Ocho.

Go ahead. I'm curious. I'm curious. Does Doran, Mr. Ham, does Mr. Ham get fired immediately or do they run it back again? I don't know if they're gonna run it back um you heard the rumblings all year long yeah that a lot of the players wasn't pleased doesn't matter a lot of players wasn't pleased with darvin but it only matters it's upper management if genie bus is pleased with darvin ham yes. That's a very tough play to guard

because AD didn't show. Because here's the thing. If AD shows, Murray's going to drop the ball off the yoke. If LeBron comes, he's going to lob it. It's going to be a dunk. Dunk, yeah.

So everybody stayed on their guys. So you have KCP in one corner. You have on the same side, you have Michael Porter Jr. So everybody stays. LeBron stays with his guy. And so Rui stays with his guy. So now you're in a tough spot. Once he

gets to, once Yoke gives the hip just enough where Reeves has to be around, now Yoke rolls to the basket. AD's in the spot. Do I come? Do I show? Or do I retreat?

Right. Because if I show, he's going to lob at the Yolk. And when LeBron rotates, he's going to throw the lob, and Goran's going to dunk it. So, in that situation, there's really nothing you can do. You're like, okay, you just hope he misses. Right. And the thing about him, he wasn't, the thing

about him, he doesn't miss much in the fourth quarter. I mean, if you look at his numbers, Murray was 13 of 28. At one point, he was like 9 of 20, 9 of 20 something, but then shot

after shot after shot, and he's the type of guy, he sees it goes in. He had it going in the first quarter. Kind of cooled off. Missed a lot of shots. But when it mattered the most, Ocho. He's always hitting them. He money.

He money. Every time. But, you know, it's crazy. You think about it. It's more so a new era of basketball because there's no LeBron. There's no KD. There's no Steph Curry. And the no katie there's no step no step curry in the second round of the playoffs since 2005. so basically what we're witnessing and seeing right

now in front of us is a new era of basketball and that is crazy you know when you think about it because you you're used to seeing these same faces and same names in playoffs for so long. And to not have them there is, yeah, I don't even know how to explain it, really. Yeah, it's a change of the guard. As guys get older, you see this happen. LeBron is 39. And the thing is, is that when you're a great player, they compare you to a younger self. So they don't give LeBron grace for being 39. It's like you're LeBron James.

They don't give Kevin Durant Grace for being 35. They don't give Steph Curry Grace. They expect you to get it done. As long as you're on the court, there's a level of expectation for transcendent players

in which these three guys are. But as I said before, Ocho, when you go on the road, you can't miss nine free throws. You can't get out rebounded you let aaron goren twice yeah get the ball and kick it out and hit the guys hit threes both times you can't have that the difference was when they won game four is that they got all the loose rebounds yeah tonight they didn't yes a.d was hampered he got got hit and he's had shoulder problems. He's had

subluxation of that shoulder. And he got hit in the perfect spot. He got hit from behind and I guess to say it looks like a stinger more so than it came out of the joint. But clearly,

clearly he was in discomfort. Clearly he was not the same player from the time that happened, like he was in the first half, because in the first half he was dominant. He was on his way again to another 2020 ball game. Who knows if the outcome would have been different, but I would have liked to have seen. But I don't want to take, I would have liked to have seen it, but I don't want to take anything away from the nugget.

Because on a night when Aaron Gordon only had seven points and KCP only had five points, but your big three, they gave you what they needed to give you. You got 57. You got 83 out of your big three. You got 83 out of your big three. They shot 42% from the floor. They shot 42% from the three.

It was 16 of what, 38? Lakers was 46. They were 28. So basically you were minus 18. Yeah, minus 18 from the three-point line. And you can't miss those free throws. You can't. You just can't, Ocho.

You can't miss those, especially when you're on the road. If you got to get every, especially in those moments. Because remember, we talked about it in football. The game's going to got to get every, especially in those moments. Right. Because remember, we talked about it in football. The game's going to come down to moments. Oh, to moments. That's all it comes down to.

It's going to come down to a bounce here or a bounce there. And you know what's funny? I'm not saying, maybe the casual fan really might not understand. You know, you have a, let's say how many plays, let's say you run 65, 70 plays a game, right?

Uh-huh. It's so crazy if you really think about it it all comes down to maybe two or three plays that change the dynamic of an entire game and all the plays you run it always comes down to two or three plays that's it yep and those moments you're talking about and what you try to do Ocho is you try to put yourself a separation where if you're the one team that you don't want it to come down to those one or two players. You don't want it to come down to a missed call or a call

that we should have gotten that we didn't get. So you try to rid yourself of elements, especially late in the ballgame, that could cause you to lose a ballgame. Now, if you're on the other side, you try to create those elements that's going to help you win the ballgame. And that's what it comes down to when you're on the other side you try to create those elements that's

going to help you win the ball game and that's what it comes down to when you're trying to win ball games on the road no matter what the sport is it's the smallest of plays they're going to look back and say man we had an opportunity to get a rebound right here right that would have put us up that would have put us up we were already up because when they made the three that put them up too and you didn't do it so give the nuggets credit they're the world champs for a reason they're looking to repeat that now um with winning this in five games they get a long rest to let murray's calf heal because he's dealing with a minor strain. It looks like this is going to be a long

series between the Clippers and the Mavericks. He might have at bare minimum, looks like he's going to have somewhere between six and eight days to rest that calf to get it 100%. That's enough time. That's more than enough time.

More than enough time. Darvin Hamm has been a hell of a two years sitting in this seat. I tell you that. It's been a hell of a two years. That don't sound like a man that's coming back, does it? I mean, he probably knows already, huh? It's been a hell of a two years sitting in this seat. It's been a hell of a two years.

I tell you that. It's been a hell of a two years. Does that sound like a guy that's coming back to you? No, not really. Not really. I'll tell you that. It's been a hell of a two years. Does that sound like a guy that's coming back to you? No, not really. Not really. I mean, I guess he can see the writing on the wall. Unless maybe Miss Buss has told him something already ahead of time.

When you have that many rumblings during a season and they always have a problem, when the Lakers aren't playing well, it always reverts back to maybe the coach being the reason why. Yeah. They missed a lot of—Lakers missed a lot of cheapness. Some blown blown layups lebron thought he got fouled on a couple of them uh ruiz smoked a couple of them braun smoked a couple of layups and when you go on the road you just got to find ways to win you got to make those plays yeah that's the difference i mean because the era the margin of error is so small. Very. It's so small. That's the difference in a game. Let's just say the Lakers, instead of going, what, 18 or 27, they go 22 or 27.

Right. The rebounds. Let's say you have two more rebounds, none more costly than the one that Aaron Gordon takes away. Again, he had another big rebound today. He had 13 rebounds. Yoke had 20 rebounds. You got to find ways to win.

The Lakers don't get it done. Nuggets advance. Congratulations to the Nuggets. Hard fought, well-earned victory. But this is why they're the world champs and they'll be moving on to face the winner of the Mavs Clippers series the Celtics took care of business on the road

oh okay they'll play September 1st oh so they'll get ready no they're about to play soon oh I thought when the next when the game okay Saturday oh they got that's plenty of rest Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday oh good four and a half five days yeah they good they good my bad I thought I thought they was going to play the

winner of the Clippers no they played the Timberwolves and that series start on Saturday we got in that series and that's gonna be a good one yeah that's gonna be a real good one man I want to take the nut I want to take I want to take the wood, but I'm going to stick with the nugs.

I think they win in seven. All right. All right. I'm going with the young Ant-Man, man. You going with Ant-Man? I'm going with the young Ant-Man. Young fella rises to the occasion, man. Yeah.

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I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences

with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal

that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask...

I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Celtics took care of business on the the road defeating your Miami Heat 102-88 they also received a scare when Chris Staffs Perzingas tweaked the right cab late in the second quarter Joe Mazzulla, head coach had no update for Perzingas

but said Jason Tatum rolled his anchor in the fourth quarter and was moving okay he looks fine Perzingas left the locker room wearing a walking boot following the game but posted he'll be good. Ocho, look, I'll be getting my cheese.

I'll be getting my cheddar. Cheddar for what? You talk about American or Swiss? Don't worry about it. I'll take Frank's. I'll take De Niro. I'll take Ruble. Whatever you want to pay me

Kwon help me help refresh my memory real quick so I know I can I can jot it down in my notes chat y'all see what I'm talking about

that's what I say when I say money out of sight cause a fight now all of a sudden he got amnesia now I'm just asking you how much it was don't worry about

how much it was just put the money on the table and I just start let me start counting I pick up I pick up what I think start counting. I know you have to count. I pick up what I think I owe and I leave the rest there. No, don't do that.

Don't do that. Just tell me what I owe you. I'm going to make sure I have it for you. Ain't no issue. Ain't no problem. Because I was really hoping. Chad, how much you owe me? The Chad probably don't even remember.

Chad remember. Yeah, I was confident too when I made that bet. I was very confident. I was hoping they would shoot the way they shot in game two. Obviously, I don't know what happened. I'm not sure what happened. So you expected him to break another franchise record. Okay, he made a franchise record.

So you know what? Let's make another franchise record three. Yeah, I was hoping so. I mean, obviously, you're playing at home. You don't want to get swept. If you're going to get swept, at least get swept in Boston. Don't allow people to come in your house. Like, think about it.

That's like somebody coming to your house, picking up your broom, and cleaning up for you. That just don't sit right. It don't sit right. Well, y'all got one more game. We got one more game. Y'all got one more game, but it's in Boston. That's the problem. Yeah. You got to steal. You got to steal one at home. we got one more game but it's in Boston that's the problem yeah

you got to steal one at home you got to steal that one at home Derek White was sensational 41 minutes tonight 15-25 8-15 from the 3 35-38 points Jalen Brown had 20 points

and 11 rebounds Jalen Brown shipped in points and 11 rebounds. Jalen Brown shipped in with 17. Holiday had 11. Big Al had seven off the bench. They didn't get a whole lot of bench production. They ran their starters. Tatum played 37 minutes.

Holiday played 38 minutes. Derek White played 41, and Jalen Brown played 39. So basically, they ran the starters as long as they could. I think they were looking to get him out, Ocho. But then Miami made a run and got it down to like 11 or 13, a lead that at one point in time seemed like it was like 22-24. And so they were not able to get him out of the ballgame. You watch this ballgame.

What did you like about the Celtics? I mean, hell, Derrick White. Derrick White stole the show. I mean, looking at the stats, I don't think Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum really shot that well they didn't shoot well from the field

I mean they didn't shoot well from the field at all but Derek White 5-14 and 7-18 yeah listen Derek White he carried the Celtics

he did he put him on their back and went out there played great defense from three he was phenomenal hell the first what nine minutes of the game he had 16 16 points. Come on now. You expecting that you expecting those type of consistency, there's a three-headed monster there.

Now all you need is for Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown to play to their potential and what we know they can do consistently. Then guess who would be one of the favorites coming out of the East going to the chip? Well, they're favored right now, but the Knicks don't fear them. Ow. The Knicks don't fear him the Knicks don't fear him the Knicks are a tough gritty group I think Andy could cause him some problems

because Andy's going to push the tempo they're going to make you get up and down and they got Miles Turner that can play Przingis because he's basically a Przingis he's their Przingis but I think he's a better defender than Przingis I he's basically a Przingis. He's their Przingis, but I think he's a better defender than Przingis. I think he's a better offensive player than Przingis.

He can shoot the three. He can put the ball on the floor. Przingis puts the ball on the floor, but not like Miles Turner. Miles is a better finisher. Now, they don't have anybody that's on the level of Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown as far as athleticism, shot making

ability, but they move the ball extremely well. Holiday do a great job of pushing tempo and they're looking to make or miss. Hey, if you miss it, they'll take it off the ramp. If you make it, they'll take it out the net, but they're looking to push the pace. They're trying to get the games in the 130s.

That's what they want. They want the game in the one. They want high 120s 130s.s hey if it needs to be 150 okay so be it right but uh that'd be a very interesting matchup but i think if i think it ends for you guys i don't know if you guys can replicate what you did in game what was that game two yeah in which you made 22 23 threes the likelihood of you setting another franchise record as far as three points, because that's the only hope. That's the equalizer with anyone.

Right. It's threes. And so I don't see that happening. I think you guys are going to be done after the next game. And you owe me 500. I owed you 100. Wait, that's how much I bet?

Yeah. Damn. Matter of fact, I'm going to hand it to you tomorrow. All right. I appreciate that. That'd be awful nice. That'd be awful nice.

I'm going to hand it to you tomorrow because I want to make sure I'm clear of all debts. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to have them folks garnish you. I'm going to mess that credit up. You know, garnish me and mess up a credit score. Yeah, I don't want no problems. I don't want no problems like that. So I'm going to make

sure you have it tomorrow. Guarantee you. Bright and early. Now it's time for our first segment of the day, and it's a news cap. Chiefs and Travis Kelsey have agreed to terms on a new two-year contract extension that makes him the NFL's highest paid

tight end. It's a new two-year deal that's worth $34.25 million. They tore the old contract up that was $30.25 million. So he's under contract through 2025. More than worthy. He should be the highest paid.

I think he's the best tight end in football. I think he's the best tight end of all time based on what he's done in the regular season, based on what he's done in the Pro Bowl. You can debate if you love G you love grunt that's fine if you love tony gonzalez that's fine also guy that doesn't get a whole lot of question uh uh a love is antonio gate yeah nobody could score the touch could score the ball like gates he wasn't the fastest but he was shifty he was a big body he knowed how to position he was a basketball player so he knowed how to post guys up

and Drew would throw it up Phillip Rivers would throw it up and he would come down with the ball but Travis Kelsey is now the highest paid tight end in football with an average salary of a little over 17 million dollars per year and it's a contract that's very very well deserved listen nobody can

argue the fact and that's all when the well deserved. Nobody can argue the fact, and I saw when the contract came out and it was over Twitter, and Patrick Mahomes tweeted, I told you I wouldn't let my guy leave. I'm sure Mahomes is going to continue to restructure his contract in such a way so you

can keep some of the important pieces around you that make the engine go. Travis Kelsey is a very important, vital part of that offense. I would say that's my home security blanket. If you snap the ball, if you need to play on a certain down,

Travis Kelsey is that guy that you look forward to going to at all times, despite some of the inconsistencies that they had last year in the past game. When it mattered most, especially towards the end of the season, who came through for you? Travis Kelsey and brother Rasheed Rice.

I'm disappointed because I wanted him to get 16 yards, so he'd have eight straight 1,000-yard seasons. Let that sink in for a tight end. Eight straight. The record was three maybe four by Gonzalez

the man has seven straight 1,000 yard receiving seasons if I'm not mistaken he has the record for the most receiving yards in a season if I'm not mistaken he has the most catches in a season he has the most touchdown receiving

in the postseason. And I think he's behind Jerry as far as most receptions in a season. So the guy has the regular season body of work, and he has the postseason body of work. So he's been phenomenal. A contract that's very, very well deserved. I'm proud of your nephew. Keep it going. And just because the contract

says two years, if you still got some juice in the tank, hey, keep it going. Keep it going. Keep it going. The 49ers are planning on life without Debo Samuel or Brandon Ayuk in 2025. The San Francisco 49ers did not trade Brandon Ayuk, Debo Samuel,

or Jawan Jennings during the NFL draft. But according to reports, the Niners are planning on life with at least one, if not two, of them as soon as 2025. The plan has been and remains to try to work out a long-term extension with Aiyu. If that happens, difficult decisions on Samuel and Jennings and unrestricted free agent will await after the season. The signers have been very proactive regarding the future of the receiver position. Drafting well selected Ricky Pearsall in the first round and Jacob Cowling in the fourth round. You know, that's that's that's really iffy because you do draft, you do draft players, but you never know. You know, transitioning from college to the nfl can be very different it can be very different some some don't catch on some don't arrive until their third year in the nfl to where you finally figure it out do they

have the time do the 49ers figure it out i mean they got they got to figure it out early but you you need that veteran presence you need that experience somewhere in that locker room. Now, I don't know. Ayuk is a veteran? Yeah, he is a veteran. But why are they playing with him? Again, every time it's time for us to get paid. We fighting tooth and nail for our money. Every time.

His resume, what Ayuk has done for that 49ers, for that organization, for that community. There shouldn't be anything to play about. There shouldn't be a waiting period. It always happens this way. Always. For some reason. I don't know why. He's going to get paid.

It's unfortunate that they won't be able to keep Debo. Because he's also been a vital part of that offense. With him being a Swiss Army Knife and being able to do so many different things in that offense. I'm curious. I'm excited for the 49ers. I'm excited for. I mean, I'm excited for the 49ers. I'm excited for the rookies. I'm excited for seeing them play, especially Ricky Persaud. He has some dope highlights.

You remember that one-handed catch he had? Oh, yeah, yeah, over the middle. Yeah, I do. That was nice. That was nice. That was really nice. He reminded me of Brandon Lloyd. Oh, yeah.

Now, B. Lloyd has some of the best hands I've ever seen. I don't think people realize how great his hand. He made acrobatic catch before technology. You know what I'm saying? Before the advancement of the gloves. He would make catches like that. I'm talking about toe touches. Oh, yeah.

I mean, he catches stuff. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Yeah, Brandon Lloyd was a real deal, man. Yeah, go check his highlight. Oh, Joe, I just think the thing is, at some point in time, the 49ers are going to have to cash these in. You can't keep knocking, keep knocking, keep knocking because you see they've already

had to get off so many defensive players. Right. Now, they've done a great job of keeping the offense intact, but at some point in time, you can't pay Ayub that money. You can't keep Debo on the contract that he's on. And you got Christian McCaffrey. And you got Big Trin.

And you're going to have to do something with Brock Purdy. Purdy. At some point in time. I mean, listen, the best part about it is you want to win it and you want to get it done before you have to pay Purdy. That's when you want it. The window of opportunity was there. Yeah, when you want it. The window of opportunity was there. Yeah, when I was on a rookie contract, it was there.

So things are going to become a little bit more difficult for the 49ers organization to get things done as that window continues to close. And now you have people saying, well, Debo might not be here. IU might not be here. The more talent you have, the easier your supporting cast can make Brock Purdy's job is when you need to get the job done. And they just haven't.

They haven't been able to close out. And see, that's the thing. When you look at it, like a Patrick Mahomes, his second year in the league on a rookie contract, he got him to the Super Bowl. And after his third year, you know, they lose, but then they give him the big extension, but he takes less

than what his market value is. He says, because I want y'all to keep this together. I need Chris Jones. I need Travis Kelsey. I need a lot of these pieces that we have. Let's not break it up.

Now, he could have broke the bank if he said I want, if he had said I want 50 million five years ago, they got no choice but to give it to him. If he says, I want 55, you got no choice. Because what's your argument? He's a Super Bowl MVP and a league MVP within his first three years in the league. He's a 50 touchdown, 5,000-yard passer within his first three years.

So whatever he asks for, he's more than deserving. He's more than earned whatever he's asking for. He says, but you know what? I'll take a 10-year deal. That's way less than market value because let's see how many we can get of these things before we absolutely have to break it up.

And guys say, you know what? I'll go ahead. So they're able to keep Stone Coast, Chris Jones. They're able to keep Trav. You know, you got Pacheco. Now, you did lose LeJarius Sneed. Yeah. But you understand, but you got McDuffie.

Mm-hmm. Who was first team all pro. Yeah. You can't keep everybody. No. Because eventually the Fox is going to come raid you. They're going to come raid your hen house. Because they know you got hens that's laying golden eggs.

So they're going to start coming to get them, Ocho. You know that. You know that. Now let me see what I'm willing to part with. Right. I wish more teams were like that. I wish more teams were understanding with, like, you know what? Jerry Sneed has been a phenomenal talent for us he's a

great great talent and he deserves to be paid well for what he's what he's able to do you know we understand we're not going to be able to pay you so we're going to allow you to go to another team so you so they can do you your due just not you know we're going to franchise tag him or we're going to tag a player like i i don't't understand. I understand the business, but why piss the individual off? Because if you franchise tag me, sometimes they try to use, well, it's going to take us some time to work a contract out and get the numbers right. Now, that's one thing, franchise just to buy you a little time. But franchise tagging me is basically telling me, you know what?

We like you. We just don't think you're worthy of a long-term deal. So we're going to lock in for one more year and see what we can get out of you. Right. See what happens. That's all it is. That's all it is. Because the thing is, the man, look, the man, he was deserving of a long-term deal.

Yeah. Because now, you know, he's like, oh, but that's 20. No, he doesn't want that 20 million. He wants 50 million guaranteed. Mm-hmm. Because he knows the likelihood of him

getting the payday if he were to get injured, especially if it's something that's going to, a quarterback, he gets an Achilles injury. Oh. Come on.

It's going to take a while for you to recover from that. Yeah. So, I'm glad. I'm glad Kansas City did right by him also. He won two Super Bowls. He was a model citizen. He played extremely well for you.

He made big-time plays. Let him move on. Let him go secure his family for the rest of their lives. Now he can secure a couple of generations with the money that he's going to make from the Tennessee Titans. So kudos to the Trial for getting that deal done. But the 49ers got some decisions they're going to have to make here. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that

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Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there.

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It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Roman Dunzay is already embracing NFC North rivalry. Let's take a listen to what he had to say, Ocho. What's up? What's it been like your first day

hitting the Packers? First day hitting the Packers, I already can't stand them. Every time I see Green, I just, I nearly puke. Puke all over yourself. That's right. Okay, okay. Listen, he said,

he said in a laughing matter, so I can't really take that serious. Right. Too many smiles, he doing too much laughing now. Now, if he said it a little serious, you know what? I can't really stand the Packers.

And I don't like Green. With no smile, straight face, I take what he says serious. But I'm taking that with a grain of salt because he's smiling too much. He's smiling too much. He ain't serious yet. You know, it's hard to come into a rivalry and understand the essence of it

until you actually play in it, until you actually feel the intensity of that week of practice. When you have, I don't know, Cincinnati, was your rival Steelers? The Steelers, Ravens, yeah. Or the Browns. I mean, yeah, that whole division. You and the division.

The whole division hate each other. Our rival was Raiders. It was Raiders, Kansas City. Right. And then the Chargers. Seattle used to be in our division until they broke it up and put them in the North.

But when it was Raiders week, you could feel the intensity. When it was Kansas City, you felt the intensity. You knew, okay, get ready. It's going to be one of those. It's going to be some pushing and shoving. It's going to be some kicking. It's going to be some late hits. It's going to be some cheap shots.

You understand that. But this is what you expect in the Broncos, Ravens, Broncos, Raiders. Same thing with Pittsburgh. Yeah. Ravens Pittsburgh. Oh, we already know what it was. Y'all don't like us. We don't like y'all.

Y'all don't like our coach. We don't like y'all coach. Y'all don't like our fans. We don't like y'all. And what? So I've got to give. I told you. And then it was serious.

I don't think people understood this severity in which some of the players didn't like each other. And it was personal. You know, the fans didn't like each other. And it was personal. You know, the fans didn't like each other. It was personal. That Steelers week and that Ravens week, Marvin Lewis

bring a second chin strap. It's a two-chin strap game. That's the type of game it was. Straight physical. Downhill. Man, it's crazy. It was some some good days that was that's what i call good football that's good football don't let you play like that no more with you nah no sir

do you want to play like that would you like to play like that again oh yeah i like that i like that listen the nervousness the nervousness of understanding and knowing i got to keep my head on the swivel is exciting for me. You heard me? Yeah, you get to block knock knock. Yeah, that's exciting to me. There's no one being able to look at a defense and knowing where everybody's assignment is and knowing where your danger is at the snap before you come off the ball. Oh, I like that.

I like that. Being able to chirp at you and knowing, you know what, you're probably going to try to knock my head off. So you're going to be playing angry. And when you play angry, that means you're not playing under control. And when you're not playing under control,

that means I have the advantage. Yeah, I like that. I want you mad. Don't worry about it. I'm going to say something to make you mad if you ain't mad. Yeah, that's how I want you. You ain't going to do nothing. Ocho, what you going to do?

We all ready to football game. We all ready to fight. Mm-hmm. You ain't going to do nothing. Oh, so you're in a fight. Somebody punch you in your nose. Oh, you punch me in my nose? You punch me in my nose? That me in my nose that's what we do

in my den that's what we do in my ninja well yeah what up I'm my mama yeah your daddy too come get it what you talking what talking crazy yeah

after sitting out the entire 2023 season jarvis landry is going to attempt an nfl comeback this year and he's going to start a journey in jacksonville landry is expected to participate in the jags upcoming rookie minicamp that will essentially allow the jags to see what the veteran receiver looks like on the field without making a financial commitment the jags will be able to use the three-day minicamp to see if Landry can still play. Excuse me. The five-time Pro Bowler had a pretty successful career since entering the league with Miami Dolphins in 2014,

but he struggled with injuries in 2022, which is a big reason why he didn't end up playing in 2023. What you think, Ocho? Oh, he's going to be fine. So, listen, Jarvis Sanders is one of those players that doesn't need a minicamp. He doesn't need a minicamp.

Now, the injuries are one of the things that have hampered him a little bit throughout his career, but he's always been good. He's always been an elite, elite route runner. Stay with me when I say that now, whether it's in the inside,

whether it's in the slot, whether it's in the outside. So he's going to make that Jacksonville squad. And I'm telling you this now. So when the news breaks that he has signed one, two years, whatever it may be, with the Jacksonville Jaguars, you understand why. He needed that time off.

That time off is going to be perfect for him because now he's going into a situation where he's healthy, and now he can show you what he can do when he is. And he's going to pick up where he left off when he was healthy in a league and even when he wasn't an 80 percent Jarvis Landry is better than most not in his age anymore if you know your football you know what I'm talking about Ocho you know if you had any little nagging injuries you know hey hey it's like the Serengeti yeah what happened to what happened to a less than 100% antelope? They get eaten. Yeah.

That's the mentality. Hold on. Hey, don't try not to make me laugh now because I don't want security to come say I'm too loud again. Oh, sure. But that's, you know, that's the mentality.

Right, right, right, right, right. We gobble up, do we get gobbled up? Mm-hmm. It ain't no, oh man, you know my man, he hurt his knee, man. Let's take, oh, he got a hurt ankle or he got a hurt.

Hey, that ain't got nothing to do with me. You out here. I think you're 100%. You heard that? They knocked on your door? No, on the wall. They hit the wall. Hey, man, y'all go to sleep. Yeah.

Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul to be sanctioned as a professional fighter. wall. Hey, man, y'all go to sleep. Yeah. Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul to be sanctioned as a professional fight. July 20th bout between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson will be classified as a sanctioned professional fight by the Texas Department of License and Regulation. The heavyweight showdown will be contested over eight

two-minute rounds with each fighter using 14-ounce gloves. 14-ounce, that's kind of like training gloves. They normally use 16-ounce as far as training. Yeah, but you know, 14... This is smart on Jake's part. This is smart on Jake's part. It's very smart on Jake's part.

For one, Jake Paul does not want to be in a ring with Mike Tyson for three-minute, eight rounds. You don't want to do that. I don't know if Mike got the stamina for that. Now, he can go two. And plus, you don't want to be, I think they're going to use headgear also. No, no, no headgear, no headgear.

They're not going to use headgear? No, no, no, no headgear. I think so. I think so, Joe. They are? I think so. But as long as they ain't got them 8-ounce gloves, he'll be all right.

Listen, them 8- or 10-ounce gloves, Jake ain't making it up out of there. I don't care if Mike Tyson was 80-something. The power and the force that Mike Tyson still possesses at the age he is now is very, very dangerous. It's still dangerous. Think about this. Think if Mike decided to come out. For one, he's taking it serious.

Think if he decided to come out the way he comes out in all fights, where he just walks you down. He comes forward, slips, slips, slips, tries to get inside. And no, no. I mean, Jake has done a phenomenal job at what he's done so far in boxing. But there's levels to everything. There's levels to everything. And one of the things that Mike Tyson would do is make you uncomfortable. No headgear, Ocho.

Told you. But here's my thing, Ocho. Told you. If I'm not mistaken, Jake Paul is the betting favorite. So what does that tell you? Yeah. Listen, he might be the betting favorite. One thing about Mike Tyson, what happened if he click?

What happened if some just go off and, you know, Yeah, all right. All right, man. We ain't just getting in. about Mike Tyson. What happened if he click? What happened if some just go off and, you know, yeah, all right, all right, nah, we ain't just getting, listen, we not just getting in there

with anybody. I don't know, it can get scary. I'm just glad they not using 10-ounce gloves. Well, yeah,

I think the last, well, I think Mayweather them use 10 ounce gloves yeah they didn't use eight ounce because ufc fighting four ounce gloves right and most boxers they fight in eight ounce gloves either everlast winnings or reyes reyes is a different type of leather what you're trying to do uh floyd i found out mistaken i think floyd wore winning a little bit more pad protect his hands hands, because you know, Floyd had

before... No, Floyd wore a grant. He wore a grant? Are you sure? I think Floyd wore a wedding. No, the spar he wore a wedding, but the fight he wore grant gloves, if I'm not mistaken. Because I think the thing is that he needed something to protect his hand, because his hands were a little brittle. Yeah, he broke his hands

a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, but those Reyes gloves is basically his fist. And it's like you got just a little, it's like just a rubber glove that you wear in the wintertime.

Yeah. And you try to just, you try to cut. You dig it. I like it. That's going to be, it's going to be exciting though. Everybody going to want to tune in

because everybody going to want to see what's going to happen because you don't know. You don't know. Right. Ocho, a man is going viral for cutting his homeboys off for not checking on him after back surgery. He cheated. He treated. He tweeted. I just blocked and dead in friendship with four of my homeboys after I had back surgery literally a whole month ago. And now one of those ends checked on your boy. I say ish. I just blocked them and let it be what it is. had back surgery literally a whole month ago and not one of those ends checked on your boy i ain't say ish i just blocked them and let it be what it is and let it be what it is and wasn't my wasn't

my real friend yeah that's some that's some shit that's some shady ish that's crazy that's crazy and and the fact that most of the time when something important like that and you have friends of yours that you consider friends and you go through some serious like a back procedure, no matter what it was, and they don't even check on you, see how you doing, a call. And they know you're going to be down. Yeah, you're going to be down.

Ojo, this is how you know they didn't see it. You would have had surgery. Now, let's just say for the sake of our, I would have had surgery on my back, I had surgery on my hip. Right. You need anything? That means I'm going to ask, hoping you say no.

Nah, bring your funky ass over here and find out if I need anything. Right, right, right, right. But man, you got to know the details, Ocho. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was going to come over there and see if you needed anything, but I figured you was good. Well, how you figure that? With a calculator or scratch paper? Yeah, and one thing about it is when you needed anything, but I figured you was good. Well, how you figure that? With a calculator or scratch paper?

Yeah, and one thing about it is when you have friends, and I can just speak on this as far as from a football perspective, or even friends, if you have surgery or anything, for one,

they're going to call you and the jokes is going to fly. Oh, yeah. Oh, the jokes is going to fly. I'm coming just to joke. They tell you about me, let me have a surgery. i'm coming just to i'm coming just to joke they tell you about me let me have a surgery i'm coming just to joke so they already know they done told their wife or they done told their girl man sharp coming man you know how sharp he up sharp gonna tear

your ass up yeah and then i will get them jokes off yeah most definitely i think i think listen i think maybe he thought they were they were friends because he had known them. Sometimes they're not even your friend, they're just associates. So you're expecting friend things from people that are just associates. So you kind of put them in a position or a place where they really don't belong. And that just lets you know that. And listen, sometimes it comes to even relationships as well. Sometimes you're with people that move a certain way or don't do certain things

that align with the things that someone that is a partner should be doing. And that lets you know or put things into perspective when they don't do certain things. So, I mean, same thing. So if anybody out there,

you have a partner that doesn't act like a partner, you know, or a girlfriend or a boyfriend, and they're doing things like that, I don't know what place to put them in. Ochoa, but here's the thing. A lot of times,

people are your friends when you don't need them. Ooh. Anybody know, Ochoa? Come on, now. Don't talk. Listen, I don't want anybody

to talk good to my face. Talk good behind my back. That's see a friend walks in when the rest of the world walks out. Your four homeboys. I'm coming. I'm coming.

I'm coming to jump. It's just like time. When we did that interview, man, I was like, you know what? And I saw that foot. He already knows. It's coming. It's coming.

It don't matter because my homeboy got me when I had my surgery. Right. He started kicking. First thing he said, damn, homeboy, you looking like Cyclops. You know, he... You know, I'm homeboy, you looking like Cyclops. You know, he,

you know, hey, I expect it. Right. So, I'm good with that, man. It's just, it's sad that, it's sad that, man, he said he got four homeboys, and I believe

he genuinely heard. I believe he sincerely heard. Yeah, because if he wasn't heard, if it didn't bother him, if it didn't bother him, obviously he thought the world of those individuals. Because when you know somebody just an associate,

they're not in the friend category, you don't care whether they reach out or not when you're going through something. But when you consider people friends, you know, if you consider someone a boyfriend, if you consider someone a girlfriend, you know,

there's certain ways you carry yourself when someone is going through something. You check on them. They're going through surgery, you check on them. You know, and you can understand a person lets you know how much they mean to you by how they react

when something's going wrong. But I expect... In times of need, it's just... At least come join me. Even if you don't bring me, just come join me. Yeah.

Because I expect that. Because I'm going to get your ass. A simple text. They didn't even check in. Checking in is a simple text. What's up, boy? I'm just hitting you. I'm just hitting your line, boy.

Making sure you're good. Boy, you need something? Shit, you know, I'm right here. Hey, bro, making sure you're good. Boy, you need something? Shit, you know, I'm right here. Hey, bro, come on over. If you my homeboy, Burns coming. I had my hip surgery. Bucky got on the flight.

He ain't got a whole lot of money. You like homeboy? Hey, he came. Burns called me every day. Yeah. It's different, man. That's what friends do. Yeah yeah it's different that's what that's what friends do yeah it's different again i'm assuming they're probably associates he put them in a position

that they're not you might have thought they were your friends they were associates y'all y'all might have went to the club together y'all might hang out together every time everybody you hang out with ain't your friend. No, but see, dudes like that, I don't expect them to come. I have no expectations. I know who I consider my friends, and I know who I expect that if something were to happen, who's going to come. And likewise,

I'm not putting any added pressure in the relationship because, don't you know, with a degree of certainty, if something were to happen, my sister, Bucky called,

Libby, you need me to come down there? Now, he an hour or something away. When my grandmother was in the hospital, my sister and my two aunts, they rotated. He take my sister something. He take my aunt something. He pick them up.

You want to go sit down and eat somewhere? I go with you. Hey, homeboy, let me see. Hey, I got it. You done done more than enough for me. Some days he just go by that. Granny, I just came to sit with you. He came here.

His wife came. My grandma was sitting in the bed. She sat up. She said, ooh, Lord, there's some big people. I'm like, Granny. Come on. Damn. I said, Granny.

I'm like, Granny. Yeah. Hey, show a little B. I said, Granny. I said, you don't even know who that is. She talking about old bucket. She knew exactly who it was.

Who it was, yeah. But, yeah, man, that's sad, bro. I'm sorry,

bro. I'm sorry you had to go through that. But they told you, they showed you, they showed you the level of the, they showed you the depth of their friendship for you.

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. All you got to do is pay attention. You pay attention to some of the things people do to you and you know where

to position them. You know where they stand in your life. It's really easy. You ain't got to force nothing. You ain't got to force nothing. They'll show their hand and when they show their hand,

you play the cards the right way. It's simple. Exactly. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.

We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.