Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ocho late again, T-Wolves defeat Thunder, Unc balled in high school

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe interrogates Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson for being late to the show yet again and Ocho defends himself saying he was on a blind date, his car got towed, unpaid toll tickets and more excuses. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Anthony Edwards, Naz Reid and the shorthanded Minnesota Timberwolves defeating Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Chet Holmgren and the Oklahoma City Thunder, ending their 7-game win streak, Unc swears he was a baller in high school, but Ocho needs proof and much more!05:30 - Show Start05:41 - Intro06:52 - Ocho late15:41 - Timberwolves v OKC25:44 - Paul George42:39 - Eagles’ Milton Williams wants raise45:54 - Travis Hunter attending combine as a corner58:34 - Steelers inquired abt trading for Trevor Lawrence1:05:24 - Giants 1st rnd picks winning sb1:06:37 - Rams want number 3 pick frm Giants for Stafford(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho's on time. I said, Ocho, we really need to go no more than five minutes after the Super Bowl. I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm going to watch the game from my hotel room. Oh, yeah. Ocho, we're going to do this thing.

Lo and behold. Ocho, tell the people why you were late today. Tonight. So check me out, right? Check me out. People, people, listen to me real quick now. This wasn't my fault. This wasn't my fault. This wasn't my fault.

Like, see, now... What fault was it you late? It was Ocho. Was Ocho late or was it the fault late? All right, you know, it was Ocho. It was Ocho that was late, right?

But there's a reason behind that. Listen to me. Stay with me real quick now. Okay. I went on a blind date tonight, right? I went to a restaurant very early on the reservation was for eight o'clock the reservation was eight o'clock you hear me yeah i went to a restaurant in winwood called sparrow it was called sparrow very very

nice place and they had live music and i had no idea what the individual who i was going to dinner with i had no idea what she looked like so it was a blind date come to find out i was hoping she looked exactly like her pictures. You know how you see people on the internet and you see them on Instagram and they use all kinds of face tune and all this other stuff. So you never know.

So boom, I walk in. Boom, she's already sitting down. I sit down. I order my food. They give me a latte. They got live music playing. We having a good time. We exchanging pleasantries.

You know, great conversation. I'm getting the visual and whatnot. So boom having a good time. We're exchanging pleasantries. You know, great conversation. I'm getting a visual and whatnot. So, boom. The game starts. I told her, listen, I got nightcap tonight, so I need to be able to watch the game. You know, the thunder

and the goddamn wolves. I need to watch the game, but I can still talk to you as I'm watching the game. I get up. I say, listen, I ate. We you as I'm watching the game. So I get up. I say, listen, I ate. We ordered our food. I ate my food. I go outside to go to my car.

It's 10 o'clock. I only need 20 minutes to get home. So I'm going to be on time. I go outside. They done towed my truck. Would you believe that? Who was they? Alpine Towing.

Oh. So were you parked in a no parking zone? dude would you believe that who are they Alpine Towing oh so who said were you parked were you parked in a no parking zone yeah I was okay hey they would listen listen

hold on wait wait a minute let me tell you why now at Sparrow they had valet in the front I pulled up to valet and asked valet

how much was it for valet parking he said $100 I'm like oh bloody hell no so I just went one block further and just pulled off to the side. Let me ask you a question.

How much did it cost? Think about it. The tow, how much did it cost to get your car back? But I didn't even get my car back. That's the problem. I guarantee it's going to cost you more than $100. Oh, when I go get it tomorrow? Let me finish my story though.

Let me show you. So listen. So I catch an Uber to the tow place. tomorrow let me finish let me finish my story though let me show you so listen so i take i catch an uber to the toll place i catch him to the toll place i told him like sir i'm in a rush it's about 10 35 now it's 10 35 sir i'm in a rush night after night i gotta do a show can i please pay real quick here's my license so he run my license and said listen ojo we know who you are but your truck is already in the system and we can't give you your truck because you owe money for parking tickets the tolls you know the tolls and yeah i know yeah so i i got sun pass i just been running through it and i didn't even

realize i done ran out of money on my sun pass so okay i say listen sir if i can't get my car can i please get the keys to my house inside the car and i'm over back i'm over home and so i ubered home and boom i got here at 11 15 yeah now see what about that what about that responsibility you teaching that you do teaching people about financial responsibility was that financial responsible letting your pass your easy pass run out? Well, you know, I didn't know that, huh? I didn't know that

because you know what the problem is? Is I've been on the road for the past... You're the problem. Me? Yes. It's your easy pass. I had a lapse in judgment and not understanding

how much I had on there. So I had been running the toll all this time and they realized I accumulated so much, so many tickets where they won't even give my car the pound so i gotta get to in the morning i'm gonna wake up in the morning i'm gonna go to

the courthouse i'm gonna pay the tickets then take the slip showing up showing uh the tow yard that had paid it and i can give him a truck so i had to over here so i ain't even got no car right now think about what you just said you wouldn't pay a hundred dollars now you're about to have to pay thousands now ask yourself again was that smart wait wait wait the toll is only only a dollar now i ain't finna have to pay no thousand you mean a little bit how many i guarantee you first of all if you over that much and they pound your car right you're in the system you more than a hundred dollars over okay okay okay now the tow truck you're gonna have to pay them for towing your truck.

Again, I ask you humbly. Was the $100 that you refused to pay, was it worth the amount of inconvenience and the money you're going to have to pay? Nah, it wasn't. Hey, can I ask you a favor? You can throw me a little something? Mm-mm. I'm out of favors.

Hey, you understand my issue tonight though right i'm i'm i don't because it's an issue you created by not being responsible with your easy pass by trying to be cheap at some point in time it's okay to not be cheap be cheap as well my grandfather said boy be as cheap as you want to. But don't be cheap to yourself. Of all the people you could be cheap to, why would you be cheap to yourself? I like that. I ain't never heard it like that before. I ain't never heard it put

like that before. That's a good one. Matter of fact, you know what? The rest of the year, I'm not going to be cheap to myself. Well, considering the way you was dressed last Thursday night, you haven't been cheap yet. What you mean, the rest of the year? Hell, you started off the year not being cheap. Oh, yeah, because the way you was dressed last Thursday night, you haven't been cheap yet. What's going to be the rest of the year? Hell, you started off the year not being cheap. Oh, yeah, because I told you 2025 is my year.

This is my year where the cup run is over. It's already running over. Damn, you got more in the cup? How big the cup? Oh, hey, the cup being what? The cup being? Hey, the year just started. I'm just getting started.

I'm feeling good tonight we could be on here tonight tonight we could talk for four hours we could talk we could talk throughout the 45 minutes

because you missed the 15 minutes that we would have been talking no we would we would we actually could have I ain't even got no car right now

you should at least feel bad for me a little bit I'm not talking about I'm not talking about the big boys. I wasn't driving the big boys. I'm talking about my everyday. I have nothing. I have nothing to use.

I had the Uber here. Don't feel sorry for a person for a problem they created. Let that go over your head. That's for you. You can write it down if you want to. I can't feel bad for a person about a problem they created. You created this. Boy, one thing about you, boy, you're going to give me something to write down.

Boy, you hear me? This bad, yeah? I can't believe this bad talking about you. I'll be going through the easy path. Ocho, you know if you go through one, you got to go through another to come back through. So even if it's only a dollar, that's $2. That's if you just do it once. And this is what you're not understanding, Ocho.

I hadn't realized I had ran out of money. So I'm just going. I'm working. I'm flying in. I'm flying out. I'm getting in my car. I'm going. And I don't go nowhere.

You know, it ain't like I'm just driving all over the place. This is accumulation of six months of work six months of flying in and flying out going to the airport going home it's not like I'm going out

nowhere it's just all this time it is built up and I didn't even realize it so it's an honest mistake you know honest mistake it was honest

they told they was like I wonder where that truck is oh there it ta-da right and see you know what that's what I get anyway honest, they told, they was like, hmm, I wonder where that truck is. Ah, here it, ta-da! Right. And see, you know what, that's what I get anyway. Ain't no reason I should have been on no blind date

tonight. So this is, this is what I, I deserve this. I deserve this. This is good for me because I ain't going to be free Valentine's tomorrow. And guess what? I know what you're calling me. That tow truck driver wasn't blind. He saw that car, they caught you illegally parked. Mm-hmm. That's me driver wasn't blind. He saw that car. That car illegally parked. Mm-hmm. That's me.

Easy, easy pickup. Now, his girl going to get a nice Valentine's Day gift with your money that you gave her. Right. I think they're going to show me love tomorrow, though, because they knew who I was. That's okay. When you show them that credit card and that money to get that car parked, they're going to show you love. Damn. Money is love. You didn't know that?

Yeah, it is. It is. It is. This man here. Lord, have mercy, Chad. I'm sorry. I feel good. Let's talk about this goddamn Thunder. This is Thunder. It's Thunder. T-Wolves game, though. T-Wolves defeated the Thunder 116-101. Huh? I watched the game

at dinner on the phone. T-Wolves defeated the Thunder 116-101. Huh? I watched the game at dinner on the phone. T. Woods defeated the Thunder 116-101. Naz Reed, 27 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists for the shorthanded Wolves that was playing without Rudy Gobert. They was also playing without Julius Randle and Mike Conley. Anthony Edwards chipped in with 23 points. Shea Gilgis had 24. I think it's his first game in about 20 that he's had with 23 points. Shea Gilgis had 24. I think it was his first game in about 20

that he's had under 25 points. But he ended the night with 24 points, nine assists, eight rebounds. But the Thunder, he was 2-13 in the second half. The Minnesota guy going early. When Ant-Man dunked on Chet Helmgren, you're like, oh my goodness. They had, what, three players in double figures?

Shannon came off the bench and gave him some money. I thought Luke Garza, he gave him 15 quality minutes. He was only four or seven, but he had eight points, eight rebounds. He was also active, very, very active. But the team was, they got after it tonight. They won this game. Ant-Man was three or twelve

from the three, ten points, but it was Naz Reed inserted into the starting lineup because Julius Randle and Rudy Gobert was out, and he was sensational. The reigning sixth man of the year. Gave it 27-13-8, 27-13-7, but it was a very good game. The Thunder going to the break, losing, but I think they're, what, 42-10 now, 42-10? Boy, it's good. No, they break losing but I think they're what 42-10 now 42-10

boy it's good no they're 44-10 my bad 44-10 nothing to hang their head about you know nothing to hang their head about at all

but I think I think it's more of a a curse of teams that are really good going to the break not playing to their full potential knowing that they're

going to the break listen the way the OKC is built, this game shouldn't, honestly, they should have won this game. They should have won this game. Chet coming back, Chet's home run was,

he's hurt, right? He's coming off an injury. Coming off an injury, yeah. First game back this year. Trying to get his leg underneath him. Trying to get himself back in the rhythm and get himself going. There's no reason

this game should have been the way it was. Hey, Shy, I'm going to make sure I say his name right. Jay. Okay, I'm talking about Shy. Hey, remember the group, Shy? I do. If I ever fall in love again. What you know about that, man?

I just told you I know about it. Jay got it going in the second half, but it was rough for him in the beginning. It was rough for him in the beginning. A player like that, a player like Shea, I think about him, am I allowed to call him very Kobe-ish,

or am I tripping? That same killing instinct, that same mentality, or am I tripping? That same killing instinct, that same mentality, or am I wrong? If I'm wrong, tell me if I'm wrong. Yeah, his game. I mean, he has a great mid-range game. I mean, Kobe had a nice mid-range game. Kobe, I mean,

I don't see him as the finisher that Kobe is. He can get to the basket, but he's not as explosive as Kobe. He's more of a slippery, slithery guy. Kobe first step is like, boom. Shea plays with great pace. He has great start-stop ability.

You don't realize it, but he can elevate, but you don't realize it that you can't speed him up. And that's what's really good, you look at Luka. You can't speed Luka up. Luka's going to play on his time. Jokic, he's going to play on his time. Shea plays at his pace. But to see the maturation and how this young man, his game has blossomed,

Ocho, from where he started, from when they traded him. Completely now. Yeah. Hey. Man. You know what? And I wouldn't, like you said, this is nothing to hang your head about,

about losing tonight. Obviously, you're 44-10, and I guarantee you it has something to do with the break, even though the player probably wouldn't admit it, that we didn't play to our full potential because we know the break is coming. And listen, we just trying to get up out of here. We just trying to get up out of here.

They got off on the mark. They jumped on them early, though, Ojo. Yeah. See, that's the thing. Okay, see, they was down by 26-27. They cut it all the way down to like five or six. Yeah. In the second half.

But then the team was stepped on the gas. And for all intents and purposes, it was over after that point. But they got really balanced scoring. They had what? Five? They had six guys in double figures. Thunder did. One, two, three, four, five. What you call them had five guys in double figures. But the Timberwolves played really

well. They played really well tonight. Neither team shot the ball particularly well. Both teams were around 42% shooting. Both teams were around 42% shooting. Both teams were under 27% from the three-point line. Both teams, one team went to the foul line 22

times. The other team went to the foul line 24 times. But it was a really good game. The Thunder are really, really good. That young team, they go really big. They start basically three guards and two bigs. Chet at the five, Hardenstein at the four,

and Lou Dorch and Jalen Williams. Basically, so they go three guards and two bigs. Very few people play like that currently. Right. You know, every once in a while you have a center, but normally he's a stretch. You look at Przingis in Boston, he's really a stretch five. Anthony Davis, when he was with the Lakers, he's really a stretch.

Most people play like that. Occasionally, you got a guy like Joker. That's a typical big man, but he can – Most of the bigs can shoot the three ball. Jokic, Embiid, AD, Brazingas.

They can shoot the three. And so that's what makes these guys. So the space in which they play with, but the Thunder, when it's all said and done, I believe they're going to be there. I believe they're going to be there. They got a young team.

They're really athletic. They're really good. They just didn't shoot the ball well tonight. And they ran into a team that played well. They jumped on them early. And it happens. I mean, you're not going to be up every night. Yeah.

But it just goes to show you just how impressive what Golden State did. Golden State lost nine games for an entire season. Seven, three, and nine season? The Bulls lost 10 games for an entire season. 73-9 season? The Bulls lost 10 games. Let that sink in. Now, in order for them to replicate that, OKC would have to go that's 54 games. They would need

to go 28-0. Listen, hold on. As good as OKC is playing right now, right? Yeah. Who do you see challenging them? In the West or overall? Boston can challenge them.

Cleveland can challenge them. Because Cleveland plays just like they play. They go two bigs. Jared Allen, Evan Mobley. Right. So, and then they go Mitchell and Garland. I forget the other starter. But, yeah, they get, and Garland. I forget the other, the other starter, but yeah,

they get, they get, and you know what Boston, Boston, Przinga's, JB, JT, Holiday,

Derek White. They got guys that could defend. Yeah. On the perimeter. They got a guy that can protect the paint. Their second unit. If they're ready, they don't have to get ready. Cause they stay ready.

They go house. They go pay, pray and pitch up Peyton Pritchard. Yeah, they got some teams that can challenge them out there. Now, in the West, the Nuggets. The Nuggets, yeah. Houston, they lost tonight, and sometimes it's here to mess with the Rockets, but they're a young team.

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Is it time to sit PG and let him get healthy? I mean, listen, based on the numbers he's had since the season has started, it's been bad. It's not what we're used to seeing from Paul George. Obviously, you know something is wrong. Based on the type of production that Paul George has been able to have as far as output is concerned, how efficient he's been over time when he's played well, something is wrong with him.

You know something's wrong with him when he's scoring. What did he have, 10? He's averaging 10 points, three rebounds, and three assists in the month of February. You know that's not normal. Everybody know that's not normal. So something has to be wrong with him. But I'm curious as if he's hurt,

why is he still playing? Why is he still playing? Because he's making $50 million a year. So based on the contract, based on how much he's making, he'd rather play and hurt the team and his numbers instead of just saying

you know what right now I'm not healthy I need to sit down to slide what I'm making you act like that's new how many times you see players do that they go out

they're NFL players in football yes not basketball normally basketball players when they hurt, they out. They taking their... Oh, excuse me. I almost cursed. They taking themselves out. What happened is, Ocho, is that

he's with a new team. And when you go to a new team, you want to put your best foot forward. You want the fans. You want the teammates. And so you probably do things... Now, maybe if he was at the Clippers, he probably wouldn't do this. Maybe if he was at Indiana, he probably wouldn't do this. But he's in a new environment.

And things are not going. Remember, Joel is just not really coming back. Paul George has been in and out. He's been nicked. I think he had surgery this offseason also. So he's been dealing with some stuff of his own. But Sean is right. This is not something that no—

Look, if it's playoff time, yeah. But I ain't taking no damn injections just to practice. Right. I mean, just to— Well, I did. But it's different with an NBA player because they're playing two, three times a week. I was just shooting my— I was just shooting up to play in the game.

Ah. So, you know, that's a part of it, though, Joe. I understood. And the doctors, Mr. Sharp, you know, long-term. I say, I ain't worried about long-term. Don't worry about that. Yeah. My grandma need to eat.

Kids need a roof and need to be able to go to school. So I worry about all that long-term stuff down the road. That's not. Right now. Now, stop talking. You're talking to me to death. You just like to look so death. Shoot this ankle up so I can go out there and play.

Oh, man. Yeah, shoot this ankle up so I can go out there and play. But it's tough. It's tough, Ocho, because... What exactly is his injury? Do you know? I don't.

But, you know, I don't know if it's bone on bone. I didn't know if he, you know, it's meniscus. I mean, because I'm thinking, Ocho, if he, uh, it's got to be something knee related. Right.

It's got to be. Damn, man. And listen, if your knees are no good or your knees are hurting you, it affects everything. Basketball, you're done. That's with anything, Ocho. Every part of your game. That's with anything because you play sports

from waist down. Waist down, yeah. I mean, I'm trying to say, I mean, they do have the sports in the Olympics where you see guys with wheelchairs and stuff like that,

but that's not professional NBA, NFL. You can't do it when the knee, you can't turn the baseball. Basketball, you can't run up and And with the knee, you can't turn the baseball. Basketball, you can't run up and down and jump up and down the court. Football, you can't stop, start. You can't drop your hips.

It is hard to play with anything injured waist down. Oh, that's good. And, you know, it's tough, man. It's tough. It's really tough. And, you know, Paul is was a very good player uh but oh hold on that isn't you heard your word play you say paul george was a very good player he's still he ain't a good player this year oh he's not he's not healthy right now you know

okay so paul george is good listen he's a good player that is injured right now, and because of the injury, it's hampered his play. That's what I said. He was. So when he gets back healthy— You make it sound like he's out in the pastures and he's done. A man making $50 million a year, averaging, give me a 10, 3, and 3.

Could I interest you in that? Uh-huh. Can I interest you in that? Hey, Uncle, you mean as hell, man. Hold on. As I said, he hyperextended his knee in the preseason. That's what he's been dealing with. But now he's out because of a pinky. A what? Pinky.

I guess it's got to be on the shooting hand. His pinky toe. His pinky toe? No, his pinky finger. Pinky finger. Wait, the pinky finger ain't really ain't no... If you're a real shooter,

the pinky ain't really in the... Yeah, it is. Listen, I'm... Listen. I'm a shooter now. Where your basketball at? Get your basketball. If y'all can see this right here,

anybody dang, Steph, if y'all think y'all can take this LV basketball off, then come get yourself some. Come get yourself some. Ocho, look. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I see, I see, I see.

I see you, right? How you think somebody could, how somebody could shoot like that? I see you, right? But listen, you know, the ball leaves the index finger. You know that, right? Yes, but look at this, Ocho.

Okay, okay, okay. And how you dribble. You ever see somebody dribble? How many four-finger NBA players you ever seen? If it's not that important. Right, right, right. It's important. So listen, I like what you're saying.

You see what you're saying? So his pinky's messed up messed up his knee is messed up so even though he's making 50 million a year there's a reason he's scoring 10 points a game so he didn't give him a little bit more grace if guess what ocho you think they're still putting that money you had to break the positive you think it's still hitting yeah okay. Okay. All I'm saying is, hey, whoever, hey, Steph, Dane, y'all want this Louis Vuitton basketball, come get yourself some. Here's y'all from the three. Why ain't you call out Kyrie? Kyrie can get it.

Whoever want it. Yeah, you ain't no two Hooper, huh? If you want some, come get some. You know what I'm saying, don't you? LB basketball. That's right. Louis Vuitton made a basketball. There it is right there.

Whoever wants some, come get it. How much that was? Man, see, you see. I'm just asking. If you got to ask, it's too much. I'm just asking. I like it. Oh, shit.

You can let that thing go. No, you know, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Oh, Joe, you got to realize I average 30 before the three pointer. Oh, hell. Oh, hell no. Right.

Yeah. I'm just telling you You average 30 You average 31 30 who? 30 point Man show me a paper clip Show me a news clip Show me a news clip

From back in 1967 where you average, where you average 30 a game. Huh? Yeah. Hey, the chat asking

somebody, you went to dinner, was you the chef or were you fitting out eating? Because it looked like you was in the back cooking.

Oh, because of my outfit? Yeah, your outfit. Oh, no, my outfit? Yeah, your outfit. Oh, no. It's a little Louis. It's a little Louis denim set. Oh, okay.

Like it? Yeah. Hey, I'm a clean now, you see. I'm a clean now. I'm real clean, you know. See the little Louis? Yeah, but I'm going to get you some articles. I had 31 and 19, dropped 52.

Come on, man. Listen, you got memorabilia from 20 years ago, but you ain't got nothing to prove when you score 30 and 19. But Ocho, you got to... Ocho, I ain't got... I mean, I ain't keep the... I got some articles. I do got some articles, though.

But they are at my grandma's house. I'll get them. I'm going to get them. I'm going to get them. Boy, you ain't scored over 10 points, man. That's a lie. I guarantee when y'all play five on five, I bet you got picked last. I tell you what, go to Glenville right now.

Ask anybody. I was always the first pick when we had pickup. I ain't never. If I'm on the court and we lost, which wasn't often, I guarantee you, hey, I'm running. I'm running next. I need to see the footage. That's all I ask for. I'm going to show age. I'm running. I'm running next. I need to see the footage. That's all I ask for.

I'm going to show you. 30 and 19? I had who we played? We played Southeast Bullock. I dropped 31 and 19 on them. Dropped 52 on somebody. 37, 36. Yeah, for sure. 52? Dropped 52

school record. And got the most record on the J. 52? Dropped 52 school record. And got the most record on the JV game. Dropped 39. Owned them in JV. Got that record too. Got it. Boy, you just made, you making up stuff. You making up numbers right now.

And if you are putting up these kind of numbers, that lets me know the competition where you was at and where you lived. See what you did? That's what I do. It was trash. I made the competition seem like it wasn't no competition. See what I did? That's what I just. It was trash. I made the competition seem like it wasn't no competition. See what I did? That's what I just did. There it is right there.

At Savannah State, I got the intramural record. Most points in the game, 48. 48. I'm not buying that. Most points in the championship game, 42. High scoring average. You better check my resume. You playing against people in the town of 300.

No, no, no. The coach didn't like me. I averaged one point a game. That wasn't none of that shit. Nah, nah, no. Shanna Shark could really play basketball for real, though. I was a legit hooper.

Show me the footage, either the footage on VHS or the paper clip. If I told you I was better in track and field and basketball, I mean, track and field and basketball than I was football, but I

played... You thought I was lying? You thought I was lying? Go back and look at what that 1985 area players, me and Purvis Ellison on the same team. Stop playing with me. You don't ever heard of Purvis Ellison?

Y'all never heard of him? Nah. I don't ever heard of Purvis Ellison? Y'all never heard of him? Nah. I don't know him. No. No, no, no, no, no. They heard of me, though. Down here. Bet you ain't played no basketball.

I did play basketball at B-Chart. I just told you not too long ago on a few shows ago when I scored 30 a game and you talking about no. Now all of a sudden you scored 32. Come on, man. No, I dropped scored 30 a game and you talking about no. Now all of a sudden you scored 32. Come on, man. No, I dropped 52 in a game. No, you didn't. And,

okay, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you. Please. Please do. I'm going to show you.

Then what y'all going to do, oh, he ain't play against nobody. Well, obviously, if you put up those kind of numbers at high school, you couldn't have been playing against nobody. I don't even think Kobe

put up them type of numbers at high school. They said that when I played at Savannah State. You put up them numbers, you ain't playing nobody. Hey, I need to see. I put up those same numbers in the NFL.

That's how I got one of these. I like that. That look good. I got one too. Look at that. Part and everything. Got the scarf under my chin. Vein coming on the side of my head, got the waves.

Hey, hold on. I got me a bus too, but is that the big house? Purvis Ellison played in Louisville. Purvis Ellison went to Savannah High. Savannah, Georgia, which is the coastal empire, which was the region that we were

in. Now, we were in different classification. He was quad A, I was single A. But when it came to area players, they picked the top five area players. Ta-da! You know what? It must not have been too many players. Ta-da! I know a guy I played. I was on a team with a guy that was the

number one overall draft pick in the NBA, and he won a national championship as a true freshman, and he was the most outstanding player in that tournament. Purvis Ellison Louisville 1986. They beat Duke. Go look it up. Okay.

Stop playing me on show. I've been here. I just needed. You can say anything you say. Anything I say, I have footage and proof to go with it. I have footage and proof to go with anything I say. Anything I say, I have footage and proof to go with it. I have footage and proof to go with anything I say. Always. Ocho, I'll tell

you something you never heard. Any player that says Shannon Sharma's a liar, be it be college, be it be high school, be it the NFL, tell me the time. When I tell stories on here, you ain't never heard no blessing man online. It didn't happen like that.

Whoa, whoa, hold on. When I tell my story, you never heard anybody come and say I'm lying either. We know you lie because it's coming out your mouth. Your lips moving. Oh, no. Anytime your lips moving, you lie. Listen, I told you, and that goes for everybody in the chat, I will lie for you before I lie to you. So

anything I tell you is based on life, true life experience. I've been through everything. I've been through all this. I've done it all. I've lived a hundred lives, man. I'm telling you. I don't know what you're... All I know was

I'm the only man in Glenville High School history to win MVP in three sports and senior athlete. That's all I know was I'm the only man in Glenville High School history to win MVP in three sports and senior athlete. That's all I know. All that other stuff could be speculation, innuendo, and conjecture, but I'm the only one. In the 50-plus year history of that high school, it's no longer high school, I won MVP in all three sports

and I was senior athlete. You know what that lets me know huh if you were there I'd still be in it that lets me know the level of competition that you were having to play against and play with wasn't what it should be it wasn't up to par

now listen now if you were down here in Miami where everybody is elite and you were able to do that, then we can talk. Somebody won Miami State Player of the Year. Why not me? Okay. All right. All I know is my senior year in college, I was State Player of the Year over the guys that played at Georgia, played at Georgia Tech, played at Georgia Southern.

If you played football in the state of Georgia, my senior year in college, I was state player of the year. Okay. Eric Zire, Garrison Hurst. What's the receiver name that you had a receiver? Hey, Garrison Hurst. Hey, he was good.

Y'all better stop. Hey. I ain't telling y'all better stop. Hey. I ain't telling y'all no more. I ain't saying nothing else. Listen, I got footage. I got my footage on VHS. Anything I say, I can pull out footage. I can go into the archives.

Huh? Oh, Joe, why you think I was lying about something like that? I'm not saying you're lying. I just want to see proof. I can show you proof. All my stuff is at the big house. I can pull it out, put it on VHS, and show it to you on the tv screen anything i say i can show you me hooping dropping 32 oh you gotta realize it was 20 something game back then people didn't record

games this is in the 80s people they record games like they do when you came along that was 10 12 years later bad My bad. So I have to rely on what you're telling me as the truth. No, but I'm going to get you the articles. I'm going to get you the articles. Okay. Okay. Okay. I ain't going to lie for you. Eagles, Milton Williams, who had an outstanding game. I think he had two sacks

in that game, didn't he? He had two sacks in the Super Bowl. Yeah, he was balling, boy. That's 93, right? 93. Yes. Yeah, he's nice. Speaking at his locker says he wants to return, but obviously, I want a raise. Oh, he going to get that. Listen, if it's not for the Eagles, Howie, they know what they doing, right? They know what they doing. But what he did do, based on his performance and that goddamn game against the Chiefs,

he done got himself paid. Oh, he did that through the regular season. Huh? You look at him against what? You look at him against the Chiefs, he done got himself paid. Oh, he did that through the regular season. Huh? You look at him against what? You look at him against the Lions, I mean the Rams. You look at him, oh, he gonna make some money.

Yeah, you got, yeah. And listen, that wasn't, that wasn't no one-trick pony. He was doing that all year long. Just the fact that he was able to show up in the biggest game of the year makes it even that much more better. It makes it that more appealing and appeasing to other teams.

You know, I know he would like the return, but I'm just saying. You know, it's bigger money. Go get that paper now, bro. Yeah, come on now. You got your ring now? I got your ring, yeah. You can't eat them rings. You can't sleep on them.

You can't see your cut skin. Now, if you get hard up, I mean, you could possibly sell them. I just read the story today. Unfortunately, LeGarrette Blount is selling his game-worn jersey, his Super Bowl ring. I don't know why, but maybe, hey, maybe they're not as important to him anymore. Maybe he feels somebody else will get better use

or service out of it than he does. But at this point in time, what Milton Williams has done, he's earned a pay raise, and I don't believe he's going to be able to get it because you got to sign a broad, you met a linebacker. Yeah. Josh Sweat is up. You know what's funny?

That's why I don't want to be a GM. How do you decide what's important? How do you decide who to keep when everybody plays so well, especially in that Pacific game. Williams played well. Sweat played well. I forgot Young Bull name on the side. He's a little undersized like Von Miller. Nolan

Smith Jr. And he played well. I mean, like you do realize you got Jalen Carter coming down the pipeline. Oh, yeah. He's going to need a big contract. That's two more years, though. He's still got two. That's okay.

Okay, think about what it's going to take to sign him in two years. You see what Chris Jones is making? $32 million. Yeah. That was a year ago. What you think this kid is going to make in two years? Woo! Damn, he can't be more than 23.

Ooh, they're going to have to see him. Exactly. Exactly. You got Mitchell. You got DeJuan. Oh, you got Braun. There's only so much money you can spend. You know what's funny?

And it's a good thing the Eagles are in a great situation now. They are in a phenomenal situation where nobody is really up to really break the bank like that. So they're going to be together. This whole core is going to be together

in the next two or three years. And they can, you know, they got a chance to have a dynasty too. Now, you know that, right? For sure. Oh, my goodness.

Stay healthy. Like I said, they got the offensive line. They got sold up. Yeah. But, yeah yeah I agree with A go get that money boy

Travis Hunter will attend the combine as a corner Ocho are you surprised no not at all not at all listen I am surprised a little bit because I said it and I've said it all the time especially during season I would love to see Travis Hunter on the offensive side of the ball

and then play a few packages on defense. It's easier the other way. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying from a financial standpoint, when it's time to get paid, who makes more money, huh? The receivers or the DBs? The receivers, for sure. That's our only reason.

But listen, I like that he's going in as a DB. It's going to be nice. I'm excited to see him, especially in the drills, to see his transition, how smooth he is, him getting in and out of breaks, ball skills, stuff like that. I think he's going to do very, very, very well. And I'm saying when it's time to run the 40, I wouldn't be surprised if you run full two.

I don't see him at that fast. I think high four, I think high four threes, low four fours. Listen, don't be surprised. Don't be surprised. He too long of a stride to run like that.

I think, oh, Joe, you think you got that kind of speed? Any thing? Yeah. Those kinds of wheels. When you specifically train,

when you specifically train for the top line, and you do speed training. Yep, you're right. I'm telling you that. Don't be surprised if he clocked 4-2. High 4-2, 4-2-8, 4-2-9.

I think he, I think he's going to eclipse it. I'm telling you. But, talking to everybody. Yes, sir. There's like, play him at corner.

Yes, sir. And have some packages. What we were saying, everybody was jumping on us. yes sir they's like play him at corner yes sir and have some packages what we were saying everybody was jumping on us why he can't play every snap on offense and defense because he can't

possible because he can't and y'all just want to argue the fact with people that have played the game that have studied the game I ain't talking about

we're not no casuals we know what it takes to play at an elite level. Deion, y'all should, oh, he better, what? Y'all do realize that Deion played baseball. Do you know how hard it is to hit a baseball?

And I ain't talking about no, Deion wasn't just no guy. Yeah, he was the guy. Go back and check it in the World Series, check his batting average. Yeah. He didn't play every single snap of offense and defense. You're talking about one of the greatest athletes to have ever played.

Yeah. He played two sports professionally. We see a lot of guys play two sports college collegiately. Yeah. We've seen a lot of guys play a bunch of sports in high school. But how many guys you see play two sports professionally and be great? I've only seen two, him and

both. Now, Brian Jordan played baseball and football, but he gave up football to play baseball. Great decision. They make way more money, and the money guaranteed. But y'all argue me up and down. Oh, you a hater. You a hater. What? No hate. I'm just giving you factual information.

I think he's better suited at the cornerback, and then they put packages in because of his athleticism for a receiver. But y'all just, a lot of times, I just come to realize, Ocho, sometimes people just want to argue the argument. Yeah, I mean,

that's the joy. That's the joy of this platform in general. Listen, difference in opinion. You state your piece, they state their piece, and we can agree to disagree. Yeah. I mean, as great as Michael Jordan was, and he was historically transcendent, he was mythical in basketball.

That baseball wasn't his thing. He loved it, though. he gave it a shot yeah no no no time could really play oh yeah bo jackson bo jackson went to the all-star game bo jackson won an mvp in the all-star game bo could really play time could really play and that's all we were saying based on the knowledge of the game he's not going to be able to play 100 snaps in the nfl he can't yeah hold on i got a question yes about somebody you know the chat let you slide with it i'm not gonna let you slide with it are you saying michael jordan wasn't good at baseball he wasn't yeah that's exactly what i'm saying Oh, we looked it up. Georgia boys.

Can we put everything? Georgia high school. Most points in a game. In one game. I want you to. I mean, Jordan, can you pull this? I'm going to turn this thing around. Can you focus in on that?

Now, zero in on it as much as you can, Jordan. I can't see nothing. You sure that ain't... No, no, no. Jordan's going to get that thing into focus for you. I just see a white screen. Can you make it bigger? Jordan, go ahead.

Jordan's going to make something big for y'all. Because the only thing I don't like is being called a liar. It's going to be a lot of things. Say I'm arrogant. I never said the L word. I never said the L word. No, I ain't talking about you. Oh.

I was talking about the chat. Yeah. There it is. There it is. There's a guy's name right there. Who name is that? It's you? It looks like your name all the way at the bottom.

It looks like your name all the way at the bottom, too. All it says is 52. That's Georgia. The most points scored in a single game, when it's 52 points, what do y'all see? Hold on. It say 52. Are you sure?

Do it say 52? I don't know. I can't read. My glasses. I took my glasses off. I can't read. Hey, does it say 52 points or say 52 minutes? Which one?

Oh, what did that say? Hey, Chad. Oh, Chad, I know y'all ain't getting quiet. Where's the cap? Chad, I need y'all to put all those blue caps back up there. Y'all got real quiet, Chad. Y'all real quiet. Now, don't do me like this. Don't do me like this, Chad.

Y'all just called me a liar. Now, I want y'all to see what that is. Glenville High School, 1985. Now, I want y'all to see what that is. Glenville High School, 1985. Now, I know a guy named Shannon Shaw went to Glenville High School. They graduated in 1986. I wonder if that's me.

Chad, where are the caps? I don't see no caps. What caps? Y'all need to tell me. Hold on. I know y'all need to tell me, hold on. I know y'all keyboard is not broken. Where are the new caps? Hey.

Y'all better start playing with me. I bet him. I'm trying to understand. Who made that chat? Tell me what you're trying to understand. Maybe I can help you. Is that chat GPT or does somebody just make that up? Don't do that, Ocho.

Had I known, I might have stayed in the game and got me 60. Because what got me going, there's a dude from Ludawisi that has 62. We called him B. I forget his name. He went to, what's his name? His school's so little that they didn't put him in there.

But damn, somebody scored 85. Tag got 73. Damn. 73? See, man, listen, man. All these points these people are scoring, that lets me know the level of competition.

It wasn't what it should be because ain't nobody, shouldn't nobody be scoring 73 points in anything. I don't care. Will scored 100 in the NBA game. Show me the footage. Will scored 100. No footage of it.

Has anybody in the chat seen footage of Wilt scoring 100 points? It's like a folk tale. It's like a folk tale. They say. Ocho, the game wasn't even televised. You do realize, even in the 80s, they tape delayed the finals. The NBA finals, you couldn't watch it live. They tape delayed it.

So imagine an NFL game, Ocho, the Super Bowl. You couldn't watch it live. It was delayed it. So imagine an NFL game on the Super Bowl. You couldn't watch it live. It was tape delayed. You watched it the next day. Oh, y'all see that? Oh, y'all see that? Okay, now I can see. I can see it good now. I can see it good.

Shannon Sharp, Glenville High School, 52 points. Wait a minute. A whole bunch of people Had 52 You talking about The state of Georgia Ocho How long they been

Playing basketball Damn Hey yeah Nah nah Hey y'all They You know what Yeah basketball

Ain't y'all sport man Huh That's too That's too much Now they bad Now y'all bad now the league now the league

was a wheelchair league now it was y'all keep coming up with something it might have was all I know proof is in the pudding now proof is in the pudding

what kind of league they said it was wheelchair trying to discredit O'Shea they can't do it though and we won the game What kind of lineage there was? Wheelchair to try to discredit O'Shea. They can't do it, though. And we won the game.

Mm-hmm. How y'all feel about that, Chad? Yeah, nah. I mean, before I was on the show, I was there. You know what I'm saying? Before I was on the show, I was there. Hey, Chad, I don't know where y'all went to high school, chat,

but if you look at the history of people that played basketball for your high school, depending on where you're from, everybody's scoring 52 and 60 and 73 points. Something ain't right. Ocho, do you understand

how long, Ocho? That's for the whole state. Do you know how long they've been playing basketball? That's not in one season. I know, a very long time. But listen, in Miami, the level of competition has always been elite.

It's always been high. So you're not going to have players out of the state of Florida in general. Florida is not known for no basketball players. Stop it. Okay, let's go to New York. Okay, yes. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who was formerly Lou Alcindor

you got the great you got the great Dr. J Julius Irvin you got Connie Hawkins yes you got those guys Kenny the Jazz Smith yes you got legends

Stephon Marbury yes Sebastian Tell yes but they not formed 52 again yes they did yes Yes. Sebastian Till. Yes. But they not formed 52 again. Yes, they did.

Yes. All right. You know, we're going to let we. Now he mad. Check if he mad. I ain't mad. Listen, we're going to let you have it. We're going to let you have it. We're going to let you have it.

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Where's Jacksonville picking in the draft again? They high up. Jacksonville got to be like, what, top five, top six? They're picking five. Five? Whoa, that doesn't make no sense. Because the two top quarterbacks, they're going to be gone before five. I know that much. The two top quarterbacks,

Shador and Cam Ward are going to be gone before five unless they sneak up and grab one. But how about this here? I trade you five. I trade you my pick. I how about this here? I trade you five. I trade you my pick. I swap positions with you. I give you my first round pick. Look, guess what?

Okay, we're going to trade you. I give you Jacksonville going to pick five. Steelers want to come up to five. So I got to trade places. I get next year's one, next year's two, and the following year. So I get 26-1 I'll get 26-2 and I'll get 27-3

and so Trevor Lawrence are the Steelers then yeah and you think that's the answer I think the Steelers believe that's the answer I think for the Steelers you have quarterback

they need quarterback play Ocho they really do so you don't believe in Justin Fields and what he was able to do when they started the season off 4-2 before Russell Wilson took over? I'm just asking your thoughts.

Well, Ocho, for them to inquire about Trevor Lawrence, what do they believe? Forget me and you. Me and you can juggle right here. You and I can have spitball and bounce stuff off the wall. What are the Steelers telling you if they're willing to inquire

about somebody outside of their building? Okay. You're right. Ooh, that's tough. And get out of my timeline. I'm done. I done dropped any points. I know, yeah,

Ben Carter's from Florida. So is T-Mac. Where's. I'm done. I don't drop any points. I know, yeah, Biff Carter's from Florida. So is T-Mac. Where's Ant-Man from? Georgia. Where's Dwight Howard from? Georgia. Kenny Walker? Georgia.

So, look, but normally, those southern states, we normally produce basketball players. You start going north, you go to New York. Yeah. You know, California, we normally produce basketball players. You start going north, you go to New York. Yeah.

You know, California, they normally have basketball and football. Right. But in the south, the weather, you know what we're known for, bro. We football. Florida, Georgia, South Carolina. We start going up the coast, don't you? Come on, bro. Right, right, right.

Louisiana, Texas. Yeah, you start going up the coast, don't you? Come on, bro. Right, right, right. Louisiana, Texas. Yeah, you're going to have some. You got baseball players come from all over, but y'all know what we do. I'm done. Y'all know what I did. Y'all see it. Y'all saw it. 52-0, Joe, you didn't know that? I know.

We saw it, but it ain't. I did some questions about it. You know, I just want to add. Are you calling the state of Georgia a lie? No, I'm not trying. I don't want to sound like I hate them. What does that sound like from over here? Chad, does it sound like he hating y'all?

No, I'm not trying to hate them. I'm just saying so many people score so many points over an extended period of time from a Pacific state lets me know that the people in that Pacific state suck at the game of basketball. That's all. Lisa Leslie had 101 points at the half of a basketball game in California. Go look at the state of California and see what their records are.

Go look at the state of New York and see what their scoring records are. All right. You're right. I know it's hard for you to believe because your boy played football you know what I'm saying I put the basketball down well listen that's not a bad thing

because listen I think listen to some or your belief you might be a better basketball player than a football player but the same thing goes with me

I'm a better soccer and tennis player than I am a receiver you ain't play no tennis I'm a better I'm a bet. Oh, I'm a bet. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that.

I'm glad you just said that because I'm playing in the Miami Open in the exhibition match March, March 20th, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. I forgot who my opponent is. Then you will be able to see.

See, anytime I say something, there will always be video evidence to follow behind it. And for anybody in the chat that's been following me for a while, they can show you that I can play tennis very well. Oh, what about LaMelo Ball? He scored

92. Are they any good? Hold on, hold on. Who LaMelo Ball play for? Aren't they way out there in the suburbs? Chino Hills. They played in Chino Hills. Oh, they can't play no hoop in Chino Hills, man. He dropped 92. So what about that, Ocho?

He dropped 92 in a game. You hear what I just said, huh? What? They can't hoop right there in Chino Hills. There ain't no hoopers. There ain't no hoopers. The man dropped 92. Okay, I ain't got nothing.

Listen, LaMelo the real deal. Listen, LaMelo the real deal in the NBA. So I can understand him dropping 92. Now that I understand. I just chose to go a different route. I chose to go a different route, Ocho. Okay. Coulda.

All right. Coulda. Who knows? You right. You right. I'm going to let you have it. I'm going to let you have it. I'm going to let you have it. I love it.

It seems that the Steelers are looking to trade their first and second round picks for Trevor Lawrence. Steelers, if y'all think you're going to be able to get Trevor. Thank you, Ocho. If you think you're going to be able to get Trevor Lawrence. Oh, Ocho. Here's the thing. going to be able to get Trevor Lawrence, oh, Ocho, here's the thing. Jacksonville wouldn't have to give up anything. Jacksonville would get to stay at five.

Now, if we get the Steelers' first-round pick, we can package that. Move up, maybe get a quarterback. That's what we feel. But it's going to take more. If y'all think y'all going to be able to get Trevor Lawrence for a one and a two, y'all are out your damn mind. I don't understand what the Jaguars are going to do. What are they going to take more if y'all think y'all going to be able to get Trevor Lawrence for a one and a two y'all out your damn mind I don't understand

what the Jaguars are going to do what are they going to do you need a quarterback so you're letting go of a quarterback that you assumedly don't believe in

to this point who has all the intangibles I mean he passes the eye test I mean I'm man already you don't even know you waving the white flag already eye test. I mean, man. Already? You're waving the white

flag already? Mm-hmm. Jesus. Talk about impatience. Ocho, this is the fifth straight year a former Giants first-round pick has won the Super Bowl. Jason Pierre-Paul with the Bucs. Odell

Beckham Jr. with the Rams. Kadarius Toney won twice with the Chiefs. And now Saquon. It seems like the Giants got more guys first round picks winning championships with other teams than they do their own. The funny thing about it is they haven't been able to get it right despite all the talent.

Listen, they've been drafting right. They've been drafting right because everybody's just name was that boy at one point in time. Hell, say, you want to steal that boy. JVP, steal that boy who didn't tap him. Not Tony. He wasn't that guy.

He was in college. he was sensational in college I saw him at Florida you remember him in the I remember him in the SEC championship game Florida against Alabama nasty he was crazy he was crazy

but for whatever reason you know off field issues behavior issues stalled out his career so you know, off-field issues, behavior issues, stalled out his career. So, the Rams reportedly want the number three pick

from the Giants for Matthew Stafford. Rams don't want to restructure Stafford's deal and are reportedly getting tired of his wife constantly talking publicly. The Rams could then look to trade down from three to acquire more picks next year to move up for a quarterback.

Bring that to me one more time. The Rams reportedly wants the number three pick from the Giants for Matthew Stafford. I like that move. I like that move for Stafford. I'm not giving up the number three pick for no 36, 37-year-old quarterback. Listen, when's the last time the Giants had a quarterback?

Eli Manning? How long has it been? Yes. Okay, it's been a minute. If you want to win now, if you want to make some changes, you go get you a Super Bowl winning quarterback that knows how to win, can throw that damn ball. I like it. Stafford to neighbors. Talk

to me. Stafford to Jalen Hyatt. Talk to me. Jalen Wyatt. Hyatt. It's Hyatt? Yeah, it's Hyatt. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's another Jalen for the Patriots. I think he's Jalen for the Patriots.

I think he's Jalen Polk. Ocho, but here, this is what would concern me. What part? Matthew Stafford has really never played outdoors. Oh, I knew you were from Detroit. He went to the Rams. I knew you were going to say that. Would you be concerned for a 36, 37-year-old not playing outdoors?

Not with that kind of arm like that. Did you see him against the Eagles in the snow? I did. There are very few quarterbacks who can whip it like that in the snow. Aaron Rodgers, himself, Stafford, you know, in a select. Josh Allen, Mahomes. And ain't too many of them get thrown like that now. Burrow.

Yeah, I do realize, I know the Rams don't want to redo his deal. I like Matt. I think he's phenomenal. Met his wife a couple times. She's great. But she loves her husband, and she thinks they haven't shown the kind of respect for someone that has done what he's done for them.

And she ain't got no problem. But also, what I tell you, when you say something and you got a significant other or a family member says something, where does the team, where do that fan base think that's coming from? The individual? Right or wrong

or indifferent, I'm just telling you how the mind says. Yeah, absolutely. If I said, if my brother, my sister said something, Bucket, Burns said something, even though it didn't come from me. Oh man, you know they get that from a hunk. Real say something. Oh, that, even though it might, it didn't come from me. Right. Oh, man, you know they get that from a hunk. Real say something.

Your homeboy, one of your homeboys say something. Man, you know, man, you know, man, you know what you done told him. I don't know why

they don't want to do redo the man contract. Damn. Man, Stafford still throwing that thing. But I know they like Stetson redo the man contract? Damn. Man Stafford still throwing that thing. But I know they like Destin Bennett. And you're cheap. And they said, we need more pieces.

Right. So they got a very good defense. Very. And they young. Yeah, but you got to be careful. You got to be careful. What's that? Those defenses are young.

I know they hungry. I know they playing. They're playing well. Versus the wrestling boys. But you need a quarterback to compete, man. I do. I know you do. You absolutely need a quarterback to compete.

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