Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: OJ Simpson passes, Cam Newton's comments on Club Shay Shay

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to infamous former NFL star O.J. Simpson passing away at 76, new Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson saying he "opened doors" for current black QBs, Cam Newton speaking out on Kirk Cousins' contract, and much more! 2:45 - Start of show 5:30 - OJ Simpson passes away from Prostate Cancer at 76  20:30 - Russell WIlson says he opened doors for a lot of black QBs 36:30 - Cam Newton weighs in on Kirk Cousin contract 46:30 - Cam doesn’t believe Jerry will let Dak become the leader he needs to become 52:30 - Was Tom Brady showing his true personality in New England? 01:00:00 - Tom Brady not opposed to a comeback? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And our first segment tonight is a news cap. News cap. Hey. OJ Simpson, Orenthal James Simpson, one of the greatest running backs of all time, died, had succumbed to prostate cancer. He was fighting a long battle of cancer. He was at the age of 76. OJ Simpson known for his football prowess

on the days of use at USC and the Buffalo Bills. Later, he's more infamously known for going on trial for the murder of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman. He was acquitted of the criminal trial, but later convicted on civil charges. Caitlyn Jenner tweeted,

let's take a look at the tweet. Do we have it up? We're gonna have it up, Ash. Sorry for the delay but caitlin jenner um tweeted very tacky very distasteful basically what he said was good riddance no matter what you think of someone uh uh ocho you don't celebrate someone's death you never do that you never do that you know it's one thing about God

God don't play you don't celebrate nobody's death even if you despise that person based on personal issues y'all might have gone through now you have to remember now OJ murder

the case he was acquitted but obviously was tried in the civil case now also again god don't like ugly if i'm not mistaken brother i mean sister sister brother caitlyn jenna also had an issue 2015 fatal car accident kill somebody hold on hold on no you didn't hey no she did don't don't now everything in the oj we people allegedly he killed nicole brown simpson and ronald goldman he went on trial

12 men and women a jury of his peers says we don't believe he did it yes beyond a reasonable doubt they acquitted him. Right. He went to trial on the civil charges. He was convicted. So you mean to tell me there's no denying that at the hands of Caitlyn Jenner, someone lost their life. So how would she feel? Now, she did.

She I don't if I'm not mistaken, I don't recall her spending any not one day in jail. Yes. But you you you say good riddance. You happy for the death. If I'm not mistaken, I don't recall her spending not one day in jail. Yes, sir. But you say good riddance. You happy for the devil. You know, God don't like, my grandma used to always say when I was a little boy, Ocho, God don't like ugly. Sometimes he don't like pretty. You better be careful.

You got to be careful because you never know your time is up. Every time we're born, we all come with an expiration date. Now, we don't know what that day is, but what you don't want to do is you don't want to speed it up because your time is up. Every time we're born, we all come with an expiration date. Now, we don't know what that day is, but what you don't want to do is you don't want to speed it up because the tongue is powerful. There's power in the tongue. If you're going to celebrate somebody else's death,

now you got to be careful. Got to be. God can show you better than he can tell you. Absolutely. Ocho, I'm a little older than you. And so I know OJ. I'm 56 now. Come on now. I was there. Listen, OJ, I'm not going to tell you. And so I know OJ. I'm 56 now. Come on now.

I was there. Listen, OJ, I'm not going to tell you. I can tell you where I was, but go ahead and bring it. I'm going to piggyback off of you. If you're probably around my age, maybe a little older, OJ Simpson was the guy. I'm talking about OJ Simpson. We're not talking about what transpired in 94 coming forward we're talking about prior

what do you feel if you played running back you wanted to get the number 22 you wanted to be the juice and plus he was really the first black athlete to have commercial success everybody remember OJ running through the airport jumping over everything

airport yeah I tried that once he sold cars success. Everybody remember O.J. running through the airport, jumping over everything. He sold cars. He had an Orange Juice commercial. He was really the first black. And TV. Remember O.J.? What was that movie that he was in with Elizabeth Montgomery? The Naked Gun.

Yeah, he was in Naked Gun. But he was in a movie with Elizabeth Montgomery. What was the name of that movie? It wasn't Bernie. It was A Killing Affair. Yeah, O.J. got credits, major credits on his resume. Yeah. So he was really the first black athlete to have commercial appeal now we know uh muhammad ali but muhammad

ali didn't have the commercial appeal because of what transpired of him becoming a muslim and not wanting to go to vietnam he's like they be a kong they call me no n-word i ain't going over there killing the men of some people when y'all y'all y'all want me to fight over there but y'all won't fight for me right here. OJ had commercial appeal. And so everybody, dudes, dudes like healthy dudes, chubby dudes. Man, I want to be running back. Man, get your fat butt on the offensive, defensive line. You ain't getting no 22.

They ain't got but one 22 OJ, Ocho. And this dude, you 200 pounds, talking about you going to be a running back. Running back, yeah. Come on, bro. OJ was it. Now, a lot of people try to erase what he did on the field because of what transpired in 1994. Off the field, yeah.

I believe, look, everybody knows what he did. He ran the football the first. He rushed for 2,000 yards and 14 games and 14 in buffalo you know what the weather gets like but you have played in buffalo show yeah i played in buffalo twice okay so you know it was cold in new york it gets cold in new york yeah it does so i just like i said i don't celebrate death no matter what you what you think he may or may not have done i'm still not celebrating his death because i just know one thing in 1994 two three families lives changed forever oj kids never had peace because

everybody looked at them with a side eye and a jaded eye. Nicole Brown Simpson, her family was never the same. Ron Goldman, his family was never the same. They never were ever going to be able to hug their loved ones and tell them,

I love you. So I empathize with the families. Yeah. But i don't celebrate someone's death that's not that's not my place to judge i i you know first of all and we're not going to read you know we're not going to retry the case first of all it's 20 it's 30 years ago and second of all we're not qualified no at all at all and and you people got to be very careful. I think we become impact during that time in 1994 when that incident happened. And obviously the ruling, the ruling and the verdict didn't sit well with a lot of people. Obviously, it was celebrated by some and then by some they hate.

And so they they became they hate they hate him you know for for obvious reasons we should hit a lot of people we should hit a lot of people because there's a lot of people yeah that look that that that that's the opposite color of us that's murder some of our people and we have to yeah what was the kid what was the guy in florida they killed that young boy brother joe brother zimmerman yeah yeah the first thing i heard was shannon he went to trial and he got up let it go yeah right you know if you don't know i'm not gonna get on no soapbox and i'm not gonna preach tonight but i'm just telling you yeah they are we always ask black people to let it go we always gotta be big we always gotta be the bigger person we always got to turn the other

cheek yeah got to you got to listen they want us to always give grace always always want you to give grace but that's neither here nor there oh but when do we get to receive it oh oh boy it's gonna be a long time and when we do get to receive it we ain't gonna be here i can tell you that when we do get to receive that grace for everything no matter how long ago it was we won't be around to know what it feel like i can tell you remember what i told you oh charles tell about uh uh the great uh uh poet nicky giovanni she was explaining to uh james baldwin she said i love you the most but i get the least of you we give the most, but I get the least of you. We give the most grace, but we receive the least of it. Oh, yeah.

And you know what? The way it's always been set up and it's always been set up that way. Stay with me now. It's always been set up that way. So we are the first the first thing that happened. You have to understand how this world in general is built. It's just the one is it's to suppress i'm not i'm not here i'm not i'm not here to preach on no soapbox either but again they always want you know who to take the ladder and take the the smarter route they want you to everything in peace always but nothing ever nothing in nothing in american history was ever about peace

how do you think america got is it how do you think america got in freedom they got tired of the british telling them taxation without representation we wanted freedom of religion we wanted freedoms that's why they don't that t in the Boston Harbor so name one thing that's ever been a people what is protest because the one thing we know about power people that have it will very seldom relinquish it voluntarily that ain't happening you got to take it if you want it now think about how every how did how did we attain everything over here in the States in general? Coming in nice? No.

Being pretty? Smiling? How was everything attained in general? You got to take what you want. And then, once you got it, then you have to preach to the masses, well, you need to do everything peacefully and maybe you'll get what you want. That ain't how you took it. But that's what hey hey you know hey in time in time y'all didn't y'all didn't ask the native americans for this land y'all didn't say you know what hey we're gonna make a deal with you if your land

you've been here for umpteenth years how about we purchase it from you huh that ain't what you did but oh then you put them on the you put them on the trail of tears so like i said and i'm sorry i'm not trying to go down no history lesson with you but i empathize for the brown simpson nicole brown simpson's family ronald goldman's family that does see people a lot of times, Ocho, people say, well, now they can have peace. There is no peace.

I don't get to have peace. I've been without my loved ones for 30 years. I don't get peace. 30 years, yeah. You can't break... Someone dying doesn't give me peace

because my loved one is still gone. Now, if that person went away and then my loved one came back, now I get to have peace, Ocho. I don't get no peace out of this peace yeah and again and that that's a sign even if you don't say anything that's a sign of actually celebrating death and feeling like okay now i'm at peace because the individual that that might be responsible for this incident is finally gone and resting in in heaven or wherever it may be. But again, people

that's watching, people in the chat, you got to be careful because the tongue is very, very, very, very powerful. Very powerful. Don't wish no ill will on nobody, especially once they transition. OJ Simpson, dead of cancer at the age of 76. To the families impacted on both sides, God be with you. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

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Oh, Joe, here it is. Russell Wilson says he opened doors for black quarterbacks. Wow. Anyway, Russ became the second black quarterback to win the Lombardi. Normally, the second person to do something doesn't get the credit that the first person does. But we'll talk about that. Russell said it marked the shift in perception of black men in his position. Damn, so much for what Doug Williams did.

Okay, but anyway, Shaq Harris, Joe Semple. Okay, Marlon Briscoe. But anyway, for me, able to go to back-to-back Super Bowls and win one of them, I think it opened a lot of doors. Wow. Now you see guys like Patrick Mahomes

who's won it, and it's really just us so far. But there's more to come. What I love to see is guys getting drafted early, and a lot of teams these days have black quarterbacks playing for them.

I think one of the biggest blessings of my career so far is I've been fortunate to be able to open doors for others. Hold on. So what role did Doug Williams play? The first African-American quarterback to actually get to and win the Super Bowl

and won the MVP. So what about Shaq Harris? What about Joe Gilliam? So what did Marlon Briscoe do? Shaq Harris. So what about Steveq Harris? What about Joe Gilliam? So what did Marlon Briscoe do? Shaq Harris. So what about Steve McNair? They opened no doors. Donald McNair.

Michael Vick. So they opened no doors. It was you. Yeah. I think, you know what? He is a part of it. He is a part of it, especially in the modern day era of the game of football. You know, you got to think.

We got people in the chat. Some people, we have a younger generation. I don't want to cut you off. For me to be able to go to back-to-back Super Bowls and win one of them, I think I opened up a lot of doors. He said I. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.

He said a part of. That's not what he said. That's what you said. Let's take him. No, no, no. I don't want you to add anything. I don't want you to take anything out. Let's take him at what, no, no. I don't want you to add anything. I don't want you to take anything out. Let's take him at what he

said. Yes, sir. Oh, I create. Hey, when I talk nightcap, I created this. Hey, you ain't got no part of this. I did this with nightcap. Huh? Hey, yeah, I

get what you're saying. He could have said we. he could have said we in that case as far as the team that he was a part of i'm just trying to help you out so what role did doug williams play what role did that play right i i think more so for for russell's sake he was speaking in on behalf of the modern day era, younger kids, younger generation, the generation that probably won't know about the Doug Williams or the other individuals that the Steve McNairs and the other quarterbacks that you named that were black that have won, the kids in today's era might not recognize or know about them. So in a sense, I think Russell

Wilson would be speaking on behalf of his era and the era of younger generation kids that are playing right now as far as the doors that he opened from the quarterback position. See, that's the problem with society right now, especially these young.

Yes, sir. Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because people don't know about Doug Williams or Shaq Harris or Marlon Briscoe or Jefferson Street Joe, Shaq Harris or Marlon Briscoe or Jefferson Street Joe

Shaq Harris uh uh Steve McNair Randall Cunningham that doesn't mean they didn't exist everybody you just named think about this everybody you just named if you were to ask a kid in high school right now asking about those names they probably wouldn't know they probably they probably wouldn't know because they don't know the history of the game and how far they know how far back it goes. But to be able to name some of the players like you just did, it wouldn't resonate with them. Oh, Joe. For those that will read this, read this article that Russell Wilson, they will understand and know who Russell Wilson is because it's a little bit more relatable to the younger generation. The generation that's playing right now and the generation that will come after. Yeah. So I understand what he's saying,

but you are right. You are right. You know, you have to get credit where credit is due for those that paved the way before you came and did the same thing you did based on what you're talking about.

But I really think he's addressing those of the younger generation today that have no idea who the Randall Cunninghams were, the Steve McNairs. Oh, I forgot about... What are we thinking about? We forgot Warren Moon. Oh, I forgot about Warren.

I forgot about Warren. Who still throws one of the prettiest deep balls ever. As a matter of fact, I went to the Pro Bowl with Warren Moon also, which I forgot to mention him. Yeah. Ocho. It was Doug Williams. It was Doug getting to and winning

the Super Bowl that changed a lot. Like, okay, they can do it. They can process information fast. They can think on their feet. They don't have to be mobile. Doug Williams was a prototypical dropback quarterback. Shaq Harris.

Now, Marlon Briscoe run around. He was for Denver Broncos. He ran around and a lot of others. Randall Cunningham had legs. Warren was a dropback passer. Who was a passer? We forgot about Dante Culpepper. I forgot about him.

Most black quarterbacks were moving. They were thought of as mobile. There are a lot of guys that probably could have, Most black quarterbacks were thought of as mobile. There are a lot of guys that probably could have, but how many guys that played quarterback got moved to running back? Wide receiver. DB. Hell, they still to this day, they still trying to do it. Hell, they tried to do it with Lamar coming out into the draft.

Why don't you come out here and run the 40 and run some routes. Yeah. What was the wide receiver run some routes? Yeah. Ah. What was the, uh, there was a receiver from Tampa from Indiana. Yeah. Randall Lill with the NL, but there was a wide receiver.

I think that ended up, he ended up trans, he, uh, uh, which positions Cordell Stewart, Stu B. Yes.

Cool. Stu. Vince Young. So, so what about Vince Young? Rookie of the Year? That's all I'm saying, Ocho. Look, I don't mind giving people credit, but we got to stop thinking like,

well, I didn't know that. Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it didn't happen. And we do a lot of that with history, Ocho. Well, I didn't know Michael Jackson sold that many records I didn't know Aretha Franklin was this good I didn't know just because you don't know it doesn't mean

it didn't happen we also got to stay within the context of what he was talking about he did talk about winning Super Bowls so Doug Williams won a Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP and was a first round draft pick so what's he saying again So Doug Williams won the Super Bowl. And was Super Bowl MVP. And was the first round draft pick.

Right. So what's he saying again? Who was the second man to go to the moon? Only people remember Neil Armstrong. Who was the second man to break the sub four-minute mile? They only remember Roger Bannister. Yeah. So who was the first man to run a sub four minute mile. They only remember Roger Bannister. Yeah. So who's the first man to run a sub nine 700 meters?

They're only going to remember Uyusenbo. Who's the first man to go nine six? So unless somebody goes sub nine five, it's not going to matter. Ocho, you know how this thing works. Yeah, yeah. It's always been that way. Always been that way. That's why. what the receivers want

to do ocho they want to be the first to get that 2k because it don't matter you can have 10 guys oj oj even though ed has the record 2105 people go back to oj because oj was the first they thought it was they thought no one could do it not Not in the 14-game season. 2000? Yeah. That's a lot of running there, boy. That's a lot of running. I don't understand what he was hoping to accomplish. By saying what he said, he opened doors.

Huh? No. It was the guys that came before you to have success that opened doors for you. It was the Randall Cunningham. It was the Michael Vick. It was the Steve McNair. It was the Dante cold peppers, the Donovan McNabb.

It was, uh, we just talked about Doug. I know Doug very well. Doug went to an HBC, when the grandma state. So I know Doug very well. Talk to him.

Shaq Harris was with me. Shaq Harris, Rams. He was with me in Baltimore. Marlon Briscoe was in Denver. Jefferson Street Joe. They opened the door for you. It was them.

Yeah. I mean, obviously, it was them yeah yeah i think i mean i mean opposed me obviously it was it was a it was not a video but a you know interview about how he about how he feels about opening some of the doors based on what he's accomplished and what he's done as a quarterback i think he could have been a little bit more in depth winning winning a little bit more depth about it about those that you know open the doors for those that, you know, opened the doors for him as well. You know, he just didn't get into all of that, but I kind of see where he's going. And for me, you know, Russell, forget the football player. For me, as an individual, he's an inspiration. For one, as a father, as a family man, you know, seeing some of the things

that he does away from the game of football are very inspiring, you know, seeing some of the things that he does away from the game of football are very inspiring, you know, and I'm, listen, I, I, I'm not even ashamed to do it. I'm one that picks up from everybody and the way they move and the way they operate away from the game of football, because I can always be better in many different facets of my life. And I can always pick up from little things that others do. And Russell is one of those that I do find inspiring in other ways where I can improve myself as well but again based on what he said I understand what you're saying he could have died a little deeper and giving credit to those that also paid the way for him to open the doors for him but I think he was more more focused on what he did for the game

during his time oh joe when people say well shannon you revolutionized the tight end position because the way the tight end play no kellen winslow and ozzy was doing what i was doing before i was even thought about doing it i say the only difference between what Shannon Sharp did, Ozzie, and Kellen Winslow Sr. is that there are more guys to do it. Yeah, without a big wide receiver that they moved to tight end? Yes. Could I do things that other tight ends could only dream

of doing? Yes. But Kellen did that. Ozzie did that. There are just more guys. There are more Kittles. There are more Laportes. There are more Hawkinsons. There's more Travis Kel did that. There's just more guys. There are more kiddos. There's more Laporta. There's more Hawkinson. There's more Travis Kelsey. There's more the kids up in Buffalo. There's more of them.

Knox. Yeah, Dawson Knox. The Dalton shows to Fredrickson. There's just more guys to do it, Ocho. Yes. I was unique in my time just like Ozzy and Kellen was. Oh, I opened the door. Well, let me ask you a question.

Who opened the door for you? How you got your ass in the house? Somebody had to open the door for you? Yeah. Yeah. That's taking a deeper dive. That's how I look at it. When I talk to Kittle and I talk to Kelsey and I talk to some of these young tight ends

and they give me my flowers, I'm appreciative. But I know because I grew up and I was watching Kellen and I was watching Ozzy. I watched those guys. Like, guys not getting a thousand yards is not to say guys because they throw the ball more there was really only two guys in my area that could go get a thousand yards that was me and ben coates tony came came a little later but it was just it was me and coates just like with an ozzy's time it was no ozzy uh kellen todd christensen wasensen was another pass catching tight end for the Raiders. Right.

But guys that can move. Now, these guys are moving like I move. That shouldn't have been a problem. Hell, I'm only 225, 228 pounds. Now, these guys move like that at 245, 250, 260. 250. Yeah. Running at that.

But I just don't know. Bro, Russ, you've had an unbelievable career thus far and I believe you'll continue and I hope you're the best. I hope you can get back to what you were in Seattle for Pittsburgh. But bro, you gotta stop this. You ain't open no doors because

the door was open before you walked in the door that somebody left open for you. That's like when you go you go somewhere Ocho and you see you open the door and the lady walk in behind you how she gonna say I opened the door no you did not have the door open for you that's what Doug

Williamson did that's what Warren Moon and Dante and Vic and Marlon Briscoe and Jefferson Street Joe and Shaq Harris Steve McNair Randall Cunningham Dante Culpepper, Donovan McNabb that's what they did they held the door open for you

Warren Moon, Rodney P they held the door open for you bro that's a completely different conversation you know it's funny that's a completely different conversation based on the question that might have been asked so but i i get where you're going with it but he would have had to divert based on what was asked or what they were talking about in general and then brought up well this is a b and c while i was able to do what i was able to do and these are

the people that opened the door for me so i mean i don't know but i understand completely i understand exactly what you're saying if you listen to comedians listen to how they talk they pay homage to the priors to the eddie murphys to the george carlins to the paul moon those before them to the George Carlin's to the Paul Moon. Those before them to the Red Foxes to the Robin Harrison Robin Harris, excuse me to the Bernie Max Flip Wilson.

They give them their dude. They're not. Yeah, bro. Comedy been going a long time. Black quarterbacks been playing. So 2012 was the first year black quarterbacks

came into existence. Pay homage. Listen to Beyonce how she talks in reverence to those that came before her listen at the guy that talked in reverence of how people came before them and opened the doors the black act the black actors and actresses now they're just i guess they just go by one they're just actors you don't say actors and actresses i guess whatever but anyway when blacks would do an outstanding ain't even get no nomination yeah I think Hattie McDaniel was the first one to win a supporting uh uh Oscar for

Gone With The Wind what was that 36? Haddie. I think uh Sidneyney portier was the first black male to win one and obviously denzel and you got uh uh uh uh mahershala ali it was 30 i would say it was 39 going with the wind but oh the book was written in 36 so i just like i said i i'm one Ocho. I'm big on giving credit where it's due. I'm big on that Ocho. I look, I ain't discovered. I ain't discovered anything. I'm not finna say here. I'm Magellan.

I'm Lewis and Clark. And I was the first to do the X, Y, and Z because I'm not. Well, yeah, you're right. You're right. I just tried to leave the Broncos tied in position, the Ravens tied in position, and the position as a whole in a better position than I found it. And it just goes to show you that, you know what?

Hey, undersized guy can play this position. That's all I want to do. I ain't no, I'm the first. And I just, Cam Newton was my guest this week on club. Shay, shout out to Cam. I really appreciate that,

bro. Among the many things, among the many things that he talked about, Kirk cousins and the contract that's gone viral. Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say. Yes, sir. What the

Falcons paid Kirk Cousins, they could have got Cam Newton, Justin Fields, and Michael Vick for that price. Giving this person the money coming off an injury?

So how am I supposed to feel? Because the same questions and the same concerns that you have with me, obviously, you don't overlook that. You don't have those concerns with him. And if you give Kirk Cousins my resume, he probably

would have got more. Wow. Wow. First of all cam no it's mike big good i got too old now whether or not you you seriously want to play football that's something that you your agent and the team would have to work out uh yeah am i surprised justin fields because you and i both thought justin fields would be michael big 2.0. Definitely thought he was going there. Definitely thought he was going there. I told you over textbook, you can't draw up a better situation.

Atlanta, Justin Fields. Right. He from the A. He from a bourbon to A. He close by. Ooh. Ooh. I was like, oh, yeah, this thing about to be lit.

Mercedes-Benz about to be litty, litty. But obviously, they went another direction um and they like a lot of i mean obviously with medicine now ocho achilles injury is not a death sentence like it once was we saw kevin durant come from come back from an achilles injury tear and he might be playing better than he did pre Steel Efficient Steel Efficient we watched Dan Marino tore his Achilles and he tells you he was never the same he was never Mike Vick

but he said he was never that's the little that's the little on the right I joke with Danny when I see him. But yeah, it's... I mean, he makes some points. He's like... He makes a point, but you have to understand,

the owners like who they like. The owners will always like who they like. And based on Kirk Cousins' resume, despite his lack of playoff appearances his lack of Super Bowl appearances they understand what he does during the regular season and they believe he's the one for the organization organization that can come in and will put up crazy numbers during the regular season crazy numbers offensively from an offensive standpoint what they're going to do offensively is they're going to do offensively

is they're going to throw the ball over the place. Kyle Pitts is going to have a better season than he had his rookie year. Drake London is going to have a better year. Actually, he's going to have his best year ever because of the person that is at the helm. B. John Robinson should have more lanes to run because he has soft boxes.

Because of B. John Robinson's ability to run the ball, catch the ball out the backfield. That makes that offense that much more deadly, and it makes Kirk Cousins' job that much more easier because you have a running back like that where they're going to have to stack the goddamn box and bring somebody down in the box. What do you think Kyle Pitts is going to do? What do you think Drake London is going to do? They're going to feed off of Kirk Cousins, who is going to wing it. He's a gunslinger. I'm not saying a gunslinger from the point of like Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers type arm strength. No, no, no, no, that ain't what he is.

But listen, he's going to wing it every time. Every time. And I think the thing is, Ocho, it's like Cousins, it wasn't like he was mobile to begin with. He was a dropback quarterback to begin with. So it's not like cousins it wasn't like he was mobile to begin with he was a drop back he was a drop back quarterback to get with so it's not like he's losing anything what's he losing right okay so he ran so now he goes from a 5 4 40 to a 5 5 5 6 he ain't going nowhere anyway yeah when he when he got a run he can't let's put it put it to you like that well as long as as long as this uh third and short anything what we call three yards or less he ain't getting no 30 10 or unless he's 25 and they way way down the field right right yeah but i understand what camera

saying yeah i i understand what camera saying completely but again i look at the resume and where kirk cousins has done when he was healthy. Whether it was with the Reds, I mean, sorry, whether it was with the Commanders, whether it was with the Vikings, you understand and you know what you're getting. As long as you have the supporting cast around him, you have the pass catchers around him, oh, it's going to be maybe a 4,500, maybe a 5,000-yard season. You never know. But I think that's what the Falcons are baking on and getting the Kirk Cousins that we saw with the Redskins and get. Oh, my God. The Kirk Cousins we saw with the Commanders or the Kirk Cousins we saw with the Vikings. And Kirk came in the league in 2012.

So this is about his 13th season. Yes. 331 million guaranteed one playoff win. Yeah. So what we what we what we paying for, Ojo? Hey, listen. Kirk Cousins is a God-fearing man, and he's a praying man. And God has favor.

And guess who God has favor for? Kirk Cousins. That's the only thing I can think about it. No issues. No hiccups. No problems. Family man. Does everything the right way. that's the only thing I can think about it no issues, no hiccups no problems family man, does everything the right way doesn't have any playoff, doesn't have any

much playoff experience outside of one playoff win, no Super Bowls but you know what you get in the regular season and you know the numbers are going to be beautiful from an offensive perspective that's the only thing I can think of I think the thing is, look, we want a quarterback that can distribute the football,

get the ball out of his hand. Yes, we know Kirk can do that. He can get the ball out of his hand. He's not the greatest once we get off the script, but as long as things can flow and he can keep it going and we call him to play and everything, oh, he can light you up now. We good.

Yeah. Hey, you know, we've seen him have 400-yard games. We've seen him out-duel some of the best quarterbacks in the league. I remember him going head-to-head with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. And Rodgers was doing his thing, and Kurt was like, uh-uh, not to be outdone today, bro. Right there with him. Yeah. It's all was doing his thing and Kurt was like, uh-uh, not to be outdone today, bro. Right there with him.

Yeah. It's all in what the organization wants. It's all what the coordinator wants. It's all what the coach wants. Obviously, you know, the owner has to sign off on it. Again, Justin Fields would have been dynamic. He would have been dynamic.

Yeah. You know, in that offense. Exciting. He can throw. He can also run. He would be a dual threat. But they didn't want to go in that direction. They didn't want to go in that direction. And people ask me, exciting, he can throw, he can also run, he would be a dual threat, but they didn't want to go in that direction. They didn't want to go in that direction.

People ask like Jefferson Street Joe if Joe Gilliam. Oh, yeah, man. I understand what Cam is talking about, though. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

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And I don't think Jerry Jones will allow him to become that. Because you got to be politically correct. You got to be almost the president of football, almost to be the signal caller for the Dallas Cowboys. What Dallas Cowboys need at that quarterback position is somebody to say, now, fuck that.

This is my shit. This is what we gonna do. I hear all that. But we're trying to win. We're trying to win, yes or no. Okay, cool. Now, unleash me and let me win this football game.

I like that. I like that. But you can't listen. and let me win this football game. I like that. I like that, but you can't listen. The quarterback position, you can't conduct yourself like that. Not in Dallas? You're not in the spread. Not shit. Especially not with that stalling helmet. You know what this reminds me of? Remember when Obama was in office? Obama's in office. He has to conduct himself a certain

way because of the position that he holds. You at the highest seat. Yeah, for sure. So you you have to move even if it's not the way you are you have to conduct yourself a certain way you have to camouflage put that mask on and you got to move a certain way it's no different for the for dag prescott with the dallas cowboys wearing their star on his helmet at the court of acquisition you are the face of the franchise. You have to conduct yourself a certain way. Even if you want to be in what Cam

just mentioned, you can't do it. Oh, hell no. Not in Dallas. You ain't doing that. You can't do it. Not there. Now, there are other places you might have a little leniency and a little grace to get away with it, but Dallas with a star? Man, they had your ass up out of there so goddamn fast. You remember, O Ocho you remember when the protest

when Jerry says as long as you're on this team you're going to be toes on the line helmet under your arm when that anthem is standing when that anthem is playing I know I know in theory I know what Cam is saying is in theory

it's kind of like man all the things that my grandfather I know, I know in theory, I know what Cam is saying is in theory. And there, yeah, it's kind of like, man, all the things that my grandfather said, it sounded good. We should have booked back in the day. That wasn't happening.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, nobody been here to tell that story at all. I know his own kids didn't book. I know the grandkids wasn't going to book.

So, right. You already know Gary, who Jerry is. And I told you this, Ocho. Jerry wants to be the face. That's why he can't bring a strong coach in that could potentially win because he's going to get something that Jerry never got, which is credit. The credit.

Jimmy got the credit. And even when they won the Super Bowl without Jimmy, they say you won it with Jimmy players. Yeah. You see? So now, it's kind of like he's like, I got to... That's why I keep saying, if I can just win one more of these

things, because one, but he's got to do it with a coach that falls in line. Yeah. And you said the key word. You heard that key word you just said? You got to fall in line. At the quarterback position.

Now, skill position, receiver, DB, defense end, D tackle, and you that boy? Oh, man, you can say whatever you want to as long as you are producing at a high level and the key word not only producing but consistently yeah if you're consistent you producing man you goddamn you come in the locker you do whatever you want but no position carries the aura uh the face quarterback like the quarterback coach quarterback of a quarterback yeah that's why you have to

conduct yourself a certain way you have to yeah and so and plus matter of fact now that we on a topic

now that we on a topic of that can you think of a quarterback who displayed themselves in the manner in which Cam just said not in Dallas hell nah

I'm just saying in general Jim McMahon for real yeah Jim McMahon. For real? Yeah. Jim McMahon moved helicopters. He was flipping out the command.

Jim McMahon was over there. It was a different time back then. But no. Would it work today? We got 32 nfl teams is there a quarterback today that can get away with actually being themselves no yeah matter of fact it's another one for the chat that's listening right now think about peyton manning think about tom brady think about how they're viewed and they're

perceived and i got a question for you i don't know if you know I'm personally like I do. Do you think the world has seen the real Tom Brady and the real Peyton Manning? No. Absolutely the fuck. Oh, God. No. That's my second question. Sorry.

No. We haven't even seen the real Tom Brady and the real Peyton Manning unless you know them personally. I'm telling you myself. Uh-uh. You ain't seen. That's not the real them. It has to be masked. i'm a ceo i'm i'm basically i'm running for public office yeah all the time yeah and i need your vote all the time and you know at times i wonder if it could be draining

of course at times i wanted to use i wonder you sit back and be like the fact that i have to continue to do this and oh and putting this is the 24-hour job it's what you say it's what you it's what you signed up for by the Ocho you have to put an overcoat on every day no matter what the temperature so in other words they got to put that face on no matter how they're feeling hey how you doing you know golly gee whiz oh shucks man just. I respect that team so much. Man, we're going to kick that you know what. Because if you think about it, think about what

Thomas said and then what his teammates say in the locker room after the victory or before the game. That's not what he said publicly and then what he said behind closed doors. And we get it. Look, a lot of times, Ocho, and for us,

you and I, I mean, you had a lot more antics. I was kind of a little bit more buttoned up. But people were like, man. Right. Man, I ain't no uncle like that. Man, you watch Uncle Nightcap. Man, that ain't no undisputed uncle.

That ain't no first take, huh? Right, right, right, right, right. I was very, like, go in front of the cameras and put on my best. But everybody know what you see, kind of what you see right here

is what Shannon was in the locker room. Yes! Exactly, exactly. So, obviously with me, I've always been this way. This was me. I came in like this and I'm still like this.

Now, this is how people in the chat, if you watch Tom Brady throughout the years, look at the Tom Brady in New England. And this is how people in the chat if you watch tom brady throughout the years look at the tom brady in new england and this is how you know he had to suppress who he was look at the tom brady new england and look at the funny comedic personality showing tom brady that was in tampa yeah for sure twitter twitter funny as hell the videos being put up, making jokes, being a little bit more free, being a little bit more expressive

in who he really is. Yeah. And you have to look like... Night and day, two different people. Total, total, complete two different people.

You do, Ocho, you have to bite your tongue a lot when you're in our position, even when you're a professional athlete, but more so when you're in our position, even when you're a professional athlete, but more so when you're a black athlete. So imagine LeBron. Oh, man. Listen, man.

And he probably got, LeBron probably got it the worst. You know, LeBron, LeBron be cursing in interviews sometimes. So you know Bron to drop a couple of bombs on you in a private conversation.

But the thing is, you have to stay buttoned up all the time. Like you said, it's a 24-hour job being president of LeBron James, Inc. It's a 24-hour job being president of Tom Brady, Inc. or Peyton Manning, Inc. It's a 24-hour job being president of Tom Brady's Inc. Or Peyton Manning Inc.

It's a 24-hour job because they've cultivated this perception for such a long time. And see, that's what... And they got to stay on cue. Because what was it? It wasn't that Tiger Woods had infidelity. It was the perception in which he cultivated.

Right. Man, I thought Tiger went home. And man, there was no IHOP or Perkins waitress. What? No, no, no. There was no Tiger Woods. Let him die. Yeah.

Give me that grand slam. Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. Give me the grand slam. Give me that IHOP special. Give me that Perky special to go you come on with yeah i'm taking i'm taking my order and you so whoever brought it out come on with me hey that's the thing that's what that's i mean like you can also you can never have a bad

day no because think about how long and even And even if you are having a bad day, you still got to mask it. Yes. Yes. You have to. Think about how long it took them to cultivate. It's kind of like you planting a tree. If you were to plant...

That's just saying acorn and you plant it. In the time that it's going to grow to an oak tree, you probably won't be around to see it. So think about how long they've been cultivating this perfect image that they put on display and just like that it's gone.

You know it's bad for the people, you know it's bad for the masses, but it's good for those who are close to these individuals, the Peyton Mannings the tom brady's it's us us that actually know them personally getting to see the real thing yeah i think the world would appreciate them so much more if they could actually see the authentic organic person they are without having to put the cape or the mask on or be a certain way publicly to the masses you would appreciate appreciate them that much more and then you'll also see

how relatable yeah who are the greatest of all time are to you that makeup oh joe why you oh joe why you think these look at l'oreal mac why you think these cosmetic giants make so much money they're not the only one that's masking themselves yeah L'Oreal the heiress she's the world's richest woman I think she's worth what 94 billion 64 billion the L'Oreal heiress what they

make Ocho make up yeah all to the billion dollar billion multi-billion dollar year industry. What do they do? Make up to give you the illusion that you're someone that you're not. What's one of the most popular holidays for adults? Halloween.

I get to dress up. I get to be something that I'm not. I'm not. Yeah. That's to dress up. I get to be something that I'm not. I'm not. Yeah. That's what it is. I wish, I wish they, I wish they could,

I wish they could have a day. So the world could really appreciate them. Who they really are. Oh, I said, okay. One more thing. I forgot.

We said, Oh, Oh, Jay's number was 22. It was 32. Yeah. Oh yeah. 32. I forgot. We said OJ's number was 22. It was 32. 32, yeah. 32. Oh, yeah.

32. I should have called over there. Yeah. Yeah, it was 32. And so before we go into what he allegedly did, ain't no defense. Ocho and I, we ain't offering no defense for OJ. My last name ain't Conrad. No, no.

Or Jerry Spence or any of these big time lawyers. That ain't what we do. We were talking about the man, the football player that succumbed to his battle with cancer. That's what we're doing. So don't, oh, nightcap, Uncle Ocho was defending. Ain't nobody defending anything. No, no. So don't even go out there and take that out there and and you you don't offer it there's nothing to defend what we're

upset about what i was upset about you could speak to yourself is that what caitlyn jenner said good riddance as in celebrating the death of someone that's what ocho and i i mean had she not said what she said we would have never mentioned her name and then we could have just talked about OJ he was a tremendous football player the credit that he had in acting

Naked Gun most people know him for Naked Gun the one he had with Elizabeth Montgomery we would have just talked about that but we had to bring her in it because she inserted herself in it because she thought it was cute. Knowing.

Right. Did she realize that she took a man's life? Yeah. Isn't. Hey, what's the, what's the saying? Let ye who wait.

Cast the first stone. What's the saying? If you not least you be judged. Okay, we'll take that one. I'll take that one. Something about a glass house. Don't throw a stone at it. Whatever it is.

I don't know how to say it. So, what else we got? Tom Brady said he's not opposed to an NFL comeback. Let's listen to what TB12 had to say. Let's say one day there's a situation, right? Maybe it's the 49ers, maybe, you know, heading to the playoffs. Offense is great. Patriots could be.

Raiders could be. You never know. God forbid somebody goes down, would you pick up that phone? I'm not opposed to it. I don't know if they're going to let me if I become an owner of an NFL team, but I don't know if – I don't know. I always gonna be in good shape always be able to throw the ball so to come in for a little bit like mj coming back i don't know if they let me but i wouldn't be opposed to it i like it oh joe like like a like a basketball player come back you can

you can regulate his minutes okay you only gonna only going to play 20 minutes. You only going to play 25 minutes. Quarterback, I don't know with Tom Brady how you regulate his minutes. Because he going to want to be on the field, though, Joe. Yeah, most definitely. And the funny thing about it is, if you have to understand, with the way the NFL has handicapped the defenses in today's game, you can't hit nobody. You can't do nothing.

You can't touch him. Hell, he can come back even at, what, 46 now? Might be. No, he might be older now, 47. You know what's funny? I mean, a lot of people will say, nah, he can't do it. Boy, you put Brady in the right situation. He'll be 47 August 3rd.

Hold on. Let me take my glasses off real quick. Chat, stay with me. Okay, we're rich. What happens? What happens? What happens if you put Tom Brady on the page, not the Patriots, you put Tom Brady in place of Brock Purdy?

What happens if you put Tom Brady in the 49ers office? I just hope nobody hits it. Well, what happens if you put Brady, the supporting cast matters? Yes, of course it does. Boy, Brady over there with the 49ers. But Ocho, did you listen? What was the first team that he named?

The Patriots. That's not an accident. All this notion, Tom was ready to leave. Bill Belichick pushed tom brady out the door it's like you're you have you ever been skydiving no joe yeah i ain't even you i ain't even used no parachute but they take you up about 12 13 000 feet oh joe and yeah the plane is going along and all of a sudden the plane the speed break all of a sudden yes that door opens now i'm in a two-man tandem mojo we start to walk to the mr sharp you ready

hey i'm like hey oh joe he asked me say mr sharp are you ready and before i can say yeah or no you was out of there i like oh i wasn't but i guess i am back you can't put me back in there it is a it's a it's a i mean think about ocho you i mean you know sometimes you you we've all jumped up you play receiver you jumped up and caught a ball. You're like, damn, it don't seem like I'm going to ever come down. Just imagine being 12,000 feet up in the air. They pushed Tom out. Tom wasn't ready to leave New England. Don't you let people, don't you let anybody convince you of that.

He had gotten tired of Coach Belichick bull jive. Coach Belichick believed that he could win a super bowl without tom brady without there would be no doubt that he was the reason for the success reason right because we saw in san francisco when coach walsh retired they went back to back with george seifer they won in 88. Coach Walsh retires. George Seifert comes in 89. They win, get to the NFC Championship game. If I'm not mistaken, Roger Craig fumbles.

LT recovers. They kick a field goal. They go to the Super Bowl. So now, like, okay, Joe was most responsible for this. Now, with Tom going to Tampa and coach belichick struggling in new england now that's not to say we can't give coach belichick credit because he deserves credit because he drafted some good players he came up with great game plans to neutralize the opposing team's offense. And Tom was great enough that if the game was close, he didn't make very many mistakes.

I mean, think about it. Maybe I can only remember in one big game, AFC Championship game, Tom Brady threw a pick. Marlon Jackson, if I'm not mistaken, intercepted him in the indie game. That's really the only time that I can remember. That Tom threw a pick to end the game. And, you know, look, we know he lost. He what? He's he's what?

Seven and three in Super Bowls. Tom is seven and three, seven and three, seven and three. So he lost three Super Bowls and lost a couple of championship games to the Broncos. So he doesn't always get it done. But for the most part he does yeah bell bell bellacheck we have to give bellacheck his credit obviously being a defensive mind that he is every anytime they play someone that has an elite player he finds ways to eliminate that elite player if you guys are going to beat us you're going to have to beat us with other guys.

And he's always been great on the defensive side of the ball, on top of drafting well and getting the most out of his players. But again, this is a quarterback-driven league. And if you don't have a quarterback, no matter how well you draft, no matter how good that defense is, if you don't have a quarterback on the other side of the ball to be efficient and move that goddamn ball up and down that field

and then not turn the ball over in critical times in the game. That's what he was great at. Critical times in the game, you can always fall short. It ain't very many times that you say, you know what?

Man, Tom ain't play well. And even if he didn't play well, you better be up with one minute left in the game, you better be up 14. Because he might not play well, but guess what? Let it be a two-point, you up ahead by two,

or you ahead by one, or you ahead by six, and he need to touchdown to beat you. Yeah. And it's a game-winning drive. But you might as well strike up the band. Might as well. Might as well.

But it wasn't an accident that the first team he mentioned was New England. Was Patriots. And Tom, you're right. If you're an owner in the league, they're not going to let you play in the league. So you're going to have to divest your shares, which I wouldn't do. Considering like, hey, you're a part of it. It ain't very many. It's not very many former players

that's in the ownership position in the NFL you there stay there Tom you good but you know what listen now there's a chance

that he might be the first player who has ownership in a team that he's not on but is also actively still playing it's never been done

no you can't play you have to divest yourself okay you can come back and play. You have to divest yourself. Okay. You can come back and play, but you're going to have to divest them shares. I would like to see it. I'm sure he ain't got no problem doing that because them shares will still be there when he does.

Nah, somebody else come in and buy them. Just, I mean, Tom, look, and you're right, you're always going to be, I mean, two years after you play, you're like, man, I can still play. And Tom is just, he's only a year removed. He's only a year removed. It's not like he's five years removed.

We're always, that's what makes us who we are. We always believe we can do things that's not possible. That's how we became what we became. Yeah. If you listen to everybody that told you Ocho and Liberty City, man, Ocho, you ain't going nowhere. You can be right here with us. I know.

I was going to get up out of there. I was going to get up out of there. I left Liberty City. I love, stay with me now. I love saying this. I left Liberty City without really leaving. Because when I left, I took it with me and always left Liberty City without really leaving. Because when I left, I took it with me and always put Liberty City on display. Right.

Always. Always. It was always there with me no matter how high I got. No matter how high I got. Even when I fail, I still remain consistent in who I was. But I was getting about it. Yeah. She remember that was one of the reasons that Jordan went back to the wizard.

He was going to be able to get an ownership stake in the wizard. But him and Mr. Polian had a falling out. Mr. Polian ended up firing him. The rest of that, they say he ends up buying a minority share into the Hornets. Was it the Hornets or the bobcats at the time but he ended up buying uh buying into the uh the team in charlotte uh they don't change they're the hard shot bobcats they were the hornets

and they whatever whatever the case may be wait a minute stay with me now what happens he did mention patriots i could have swore he mentioned raiders too yeah but see that's where he has the partnership in the group i ain't ain't no ain't no telling you know he would would you say you got to do divert not diversify what's the word you use yeah divest now i shoot man brady brady devontae adams i can i can see that yeah i can see that antonio I can see that. Antonio Pierce, I'll let you boy. Oh, what do you want to say, A? You want to say something? They were the Bobcats.

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