Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Olympic recap, Kerr talks Tatum

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are back and they're reacting to all of the Monday action from the 2024 Paris Olympics, including A'ja Wilson and Breanna Stewart putting on stellar performances to lead Team USA's women's basketball team to a decisive victory in their first game against Japan, men's basketball coach Steve Kerr telling reporters that Jayson Tatum will play in America's next matchup against South Sudan after a surprising DNP-CD in their first game against Serbia and much more!03:40 - Show starts04:27 - USA women's basketball beats Japan12:17 - USA Mens Gymnastics Medals16:27 - Djokvic beats Nadal24:17 - Ryan Murphy Surprise Gender Reveal25:37 - Summer McIntosh wins Gold30:22 - Canada Appealing 6 point deduction35:00 - Kerr says Tatum will play vs South Sudan50:30 - Jaylen Brown calls out Grant Hill(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The United States began their quest for the eighth consecutive gold medal. They haven't lost a game at the Olympics since 1992, and the last time they lost to Japan was in 1976. The game was in Montreal. All 12 members of the U.S. team scored, unlike the men. Asia Wilson led the way with 24 points and 13 rebounds.

Breonna Stewart added a 22 and 8. Chelsea Gray only had two points, but she had her record of the team high 13 assists. The U.S., Ocho, they got to do a better job of shooting the three. Japan got a 39. They made 15, but they shot 67% from the two-point. Next up is Belgium on Thursday. Watching the game, Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from the two-point. Next up is Belgium on Thursday. Watching the game, Ocho, what do you like about what you saw from the ladies

as they dominated Japan start to finish? The ladies, they just out there having fun. They out there having fun. Obviously, like you stated, and everybody knows, I don't think there's any competition for them. I think they are that much better across the board

than everybody. Listen, the women's team is on a 56-game winning streak. 37 of the last 56 games have a winning margin of at least 20 points or over 20 points. I mean, all they have to do, and you said they need to shoot better from three. I think even if they don't make the threes on mid range layups, anything on the board rebounds, I just, nobody had, nobody stands a chance, but watching them play and the joy that they play in the game of basketball with representing us, man, is a beautiful thing to see.

Yeah. I think the thing is, Ocho, but see here's the problem that you run into all of a sudden you let somebody get up. You only got up. They got up 19 more threes than you did. Now, they made 15. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, you get one of these teams, and all of a sudden, they go 25 of 39, and you go four of 20. Because the three ball is the equalizer.

Those are why guys that all of a sudden, I don't need to jump out the gym. I don't need to be seven foot tall. Because if I can make that, that's three to two. I make three of those. You got to make three, two point shots just to equal what I did in two shots. Right.

So yeah, I, I agree with you, uh, Asia Wilson and bring out and Brianna Stewart only paid 26 minutes, but they were dominant. Um, 14 to 18 from the free throw line. And that's where the advantage that we have

and then we can come off the bench you come off the bench with Brittany Griner, Kelsey Plum Khalil Copper, Jewel Lord I mean we just have so much depth yeah and that's the thing that's the thing what you just said we have so much depth and let's say this so happened

hypothetically speaking they meet a team that's efficient from three. I think they're the Swiss that they can turn on and take things to an even higher level and play even more efficient than what they're doing right now. When you go into a game like that. They shot 55% from the floor. 11 of 15, 10 of 16. Chelsea Gray was one of five.

DT only shot one of two. She didn't put the ball up that much. Alyssa Thomas was one of four britney grinder was four seven sabrina nescu was four six uh jackie young was one of one kelsey plum was four six kalia copper was two or four jewel long was over three but she had made two uh two free throws we're dominant we're big uh you look at our girls i mean we go uh what asia's probably 6364 stewie's probably 6364 uh nafisha colliser collier uh nafisha nafisha collier um what she's 6-3 and then you go 6-7 to the house 6-8 britney rata coming off the bench alissa thomas we we just got so much we just have side uh we got guards that can handle the

ball we can shoot the ball from the perimeter anescu can shoot the three kelton plumb can shoot the three we got a lot of girls that even stewie um but our starters didn't shoot them didn't shoot the three they were over over four five six they were over six but they dominated so much inside and what we have 36 we had 56 rebounds they had 27 see that's the difference in your ball game right there Ocho you got you get out rebounded by almost 30 you're probably going to lose by

a wide margin every time congratulations lady keep the great work up 102 76 over Japan go go ahead don't you before before we leave is there a team that you can think of that has an opportunity or a chance to even challenge the young ladies well i think they did they played they played japan in the gold medal round uh for a couple years ago and it was close because they made the three

uh but if you're not making the three because remember that's the neutralizer no matter what if you're making that shot now everything is a level playing field but do i believe that someone you're probably gonna have to shoot about 60 and you're gonna need to get up 40 plus in order for you to beat these ladies. That's just me. Because we're too we're too we're too dominant inside. We're going to crush you on the on the glass, on the offensive glass, the defensive glass. Asia Wilson has six offensive rebounds. Brittany Griner had four.

They had 19 offensive rebounds. So to make a long story short, they had almost as many offensive rebounds as Japan had total rebounds. Yeah. So is there a team you think that they're going to see that can even give them an inkling of a chance to give them a challenge? I don't see it. I think they I think they only beat Belgium. Was it Belgium that they played as in the world and the FIBA and they won by a couple of points? But I don't think I don't think Asia was there at the time, and so a lot of the players that are playing now weren't there then. But I don't, Ocho,

because like I said, although it is a global game, you don't see the international-born players playing in the WNBA like you see on the men's side. Right. The men's side got 60 plus international players on NBA teams.

Like I said, and there are no Lauren Jackson. Lauren Jackson was the Seattle Storm. She won three MVPs. They won a title. Is that level of talent currently in the NBA on the international side? I don't see it.

I don't see it. But hey, I don't see it. I don't see it. Right. But, hey, I ain't mad. I mean, it used to be, I mean, for the longest time, the Asian companies were dominating and split. And ain't nobody feel bad for us. Get better.

No. Yeah. You just got to step your game up. That's it. None more, none less uh steven netter rosset uh clutch parma horse routine powers the u.s to a historic olympic bronze and men's just gymnastic the u.s men gymnastics gymnastics teams won its first medal in 16 years japan took gold china took silver and if i'm not mistaken i think i was reading he was added just for this. Yeah, because he's that elite on that apparatus.

Oh, yeah. Difference between the men and the women. The women have four events. The men have six. The women have floor vault. What? Uneven bars, uneven bars in the beam. And the men, obviously, they have the vault, they have the floor, but they have the pommel horse, they have the high bar, they have the rings, which is, oh my goodness.

The strength that they just, those guys, the whole body, yes. And I, look, guys, not being sacrilegious, but when you hold yourself in that cross, like, Oh,

like this, who you talk about? It's a shoulder strength. You talk about core, core, core and shoulder, shoulder strength. Unbelievable.

No, I ain't holding myself out like that right there. I mean, you think, I mean, think about it. I mean, yeah.

And I know, Oh, I mean, the guys probably the heaviest one probably maybe 160 but you're talking about 135 you're talking about 145 but still oh you think it's easy if you went 145 take your

ass outside and try to hold yourself up you see matter of fact and forget having forget having the rings try to do it on the monkey bars try to do it on the monkey bars. Try to do it on the monkey bars. Yeah, I mean, I love watching gymnastics. I love the height in which they go on the ball. Simone Biles is the way she do the flip because it ain't fun no more

to just run up there and just put your hands on the vault. Nah, you got to flip. You got to twist. You got to do like three or four things before you even get there. I'm like, well, damn. Yeah. Y'all, they've taken it to a new level and

the degree of difficulty, because that's what you're measuring them on, it is so high. I mean, even if she doesn't land it perfect, nobody else can do it. Yeah. the degree of difficulty because that's what you're measuring them on it is so i mean even even if she doesn't land it perfect nobody else can do it yeah yeah yeah that's what make that's what makes it special she's so great she's competing there are very few people that compete against themselves in the course of the man she's competing against herself nobody else can do the moves that she does they can't do what she does on the floor they can can do the moves that she does

they can't do what she does on the floor they can't do what she does on the vault so if you're judging it fairly can anybody raise your hand if you can do that no

and the funny thing about it is raise your hand and see if you can do this but can you do it right in the one time where it counts oh no no i mean think about it that's what the pressure cut that's what the pressure comes in at i think i'm trying to think of the lady that did a did a bowels a move because she has six moves named after in competition only one other woman has ever landed it in competition other than the woman that it was named after in competition only one other woman has ever landed it in competition other than the woman that it was named after after let's think here for a second don't you yeah that's difficult man let's just say give it for example let's just say in the course of a game

only one other person in the history of the game has ever made a one-hand catch in the game that's what you're that's what you're comparing it to. Not practice in a game. She's the only person outside of Simone Biles to land this move in a competition. Yeah, let alone attempt it. She actually landed it. Yeah.

So congratulations, ladies, the U.S. Women's National Basketball Team. You guys win 102-76. Congratulations to the men's gymnastics team bringing home bronze medal, first medal in 16 years. Novak Djokovic beats Nirafa Nadal in their 60th impossible last meeting head-to-head, 6-1, 6-4, the victory for Djokovic.

The same place where Nadal won 14 French Open titles. You know, he's not the same Nadal. He plays such a physical game. The injuries have taken his toll. That's not to take regular note of that. He's the greatest tennis player ever,

no matter what you think of it. A lot of people don't like he rubbed them the wrong way. But based on what he's been able to do he's beaten all the greats in their prime he beat that he beat nadal he beat murray i don't know and he has what 25 24 25 majors i don't know how you can say he's not the GOAT. Yeah, he's one of the greatest of all time. Based on who you ask. Ain't no one of.

Because if you look at all the guys that he beat, Nadal has over 20 majors. Yeah. Federer was graceful. He was the Swiss maestro. But when you look at Ocho, Federer has 20 majors. Think about how many times Joker beat him. Nadal has 21 majors.

Think about how many times he beat him. So he's beating them on their best surface. Fed is a grass. He's graceful. He's a swan. He's a ballerina on grass. Right, right, right. Joker beat him. On clay, Nadal has

14 great slams on clay and Roland Garros. Joker beating. So he's beating you. If I beat you on your best surface, you in your prime, I'm in my prime. I got more majors. Yeah.

Yeah. Listen, those matchups those matchups are always good though anytime anytime Joker and Nadal met up especially in A-Prime yeah

they played they played 60 times 60 yeah they played 60 times and obviously this match Nadal just needed hip surgery

not less than a year ago so he's probably not even fully healed fully healthy but again they both had phenomenal careers. And Joker probably is the best. Probably is the best. I mean, Nadal hits the ball with so much torque.

He keeps attacking core muscle. If you notice, every time he goes down, it's core muscle. It's a wrist injury because he's putting so much torque on the ball. But it was great to watch Nadal and Federer in their prime. It was great to watch. I mean, let's sink in. If you go back and look at it, think about how few people actually won majors. You'll never see this again in any sport.

Three guys dominated i mean out of the last what 80 majors they won like 75 of them yeah most definitely you know whenever you get del potro you get depot you get kill it uh you get you throw it to andy murray right that's it oh and uh stan warwinker right he's a player also. Now, the funny thing about it is when you think about all Joker has accomplished as far as accolades is concerned, I think there is one player that might have a

chance to come close or maybe even surpass him and that's Carlos Alcaraz. Yep. Alcaraz. Alcaraz is phenomenal in such an early time in his career. He just beat Joker maybe two weeks ago at Wimbledon. Wimbledon.

If I'm not mistaken. So he's a phenomenal talent. He is. He's a phenomenal talent and he's very young and has a long way to go. Yeah. And if he can stay healthy,

boy, the sky's the limit for a young bull. Yeah. And the thing is that but you look at Joker, he didn't have that intestinal fortitude early. Yeah. He reinvented himself where he would dig down. He would get down a couple of steps.

He's like, I can't win. He'd pack it up. Yeah, he'd pack it up. No, not anymore. Not anymore. I think it flipped for him. I think that was 08 at the U.S. Open. Ben had match point on his racket twice.

Joker held him off. That was kind of the beginning. That was kind of the beginning of Novak Djokovic. But it was great. I agree with you. To see these guys, we've never seen anything like it. I'm old enough to remember. Remember Bjorn Borg when he dominated uh on clay because for the longest time ocho all the surfaces were the same

you played on grass you went down to australia it was grass the u.s it was grass the only difference in the surface was when you went to roland garros the french open it was clay right now you have you know now you have two hard courts which is uh the australian open and the u.s open you have grass which which is wimbledon and you have clay which is you know roland garros uh and so i'm old enough to remember the old guard borg and beatus geraldus and you had uh um stephan edberg and you had Pete Sampras and you had go run. Yeah, man. You had Michael's feet.

You had all those. I remember those guys. Oh, courier chain. Yeah. Michael Chang. I remember saying, yeah, saying was nice. That was that was probably the glory. Now you get you had Joker, Nadal and Federer dominating.

They're like, well, damn, my guy. Because, you know, if you had to go through those guys, I mean, maybe you're like, man, I sure hope, well, maybe Federer can knock off Nadal, and then maybe I got a chance. But just think if you had to run the gamut and you had to beat two of those in a major. Yeah. It's going to be tough.

It happened, but it didn't happen often. Yeah, it didn't happen often. It's tough. Nadal certainly seems as if this could be close to retirement. He has had two injury-filled seasons. He even foregoed, he skipped the French, which is his favorite surface, his best surface, because he was kind of trying to save it for this.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Check this out, Ocho. American Ryan Murphy secured the bronze medal in the 100 meter best stroke final at the Olympics Monday but it was certainly a stark memory of a 29 year old swimmer after the medal ceremony Murphy walked a victory lap around the pool where his wife waited with a sign

Ryan it's a girl he told reporters so I'm having a baby girl in january and that was the gender gender reveal to me yeah what we brought it um we brought it uh we both thought it it was going to be a boy everything is going to be dedicated to a little girl that's awesome that's live that's live that's live ryan mur's live. Ryan Murphy, congrats, boss. Congrats. Congrats. Congrats. Congrats. That's awesome, man. That's awesome. Yeah, but I like stuff like this.

They're going too far with the gender reveals. They're getting airplanes. I mean, come on, man. That's a creative one. That's a good one. It's not... It's a great moment. It's at the Olympics. You just won bronze medal, you know, in the 100-meter breaststroke. And your wife reveals to you that you're having a girl.

That got to be the greatest feeling of all time. Ain't nothing greater than that. Right. So congratulations, Ryan, on the bronze medal. And congratulations on the healthy baby girl that your wife is going to deliver in January. Olympic swimming results in the 400 meter. I am Summer McIntosh, the 17 year old Canadian phenom. She won the gold medal.

17, 17. We got first. We got second and third. We won the silver and the bronze. It was it was the first Olympic gold medal of her career. Monday night in a grueling 400 meter. I am touching the wall in four minutes, 27.71 seconds.

The man's 200 free final. Papa bitch gold, Hobson bronze. What'd you call him? And the man's back final. Who's that? how do you say that Saccone Saccone

gold American and Murphy got the bronze women's 100 meter breast final Smith gold American King misses the medal by 0.1 oh that's Lilly King oh man and one. Oh, that's Lilly King.

Oh, man. And the 200 200 free final Australia won two. If O'Callaghan beats tip. Oh my gosh, that's the shocker right now of

Ariana Titmuss. She's phenomenal in the two to the 400 because she just beat kayla ledecky in the uh 400 and uh that was her back she went back to back uh oh my i know yeah i know who she is i know what she represents in the freestyle at two and the four yeah yeah yeah but the australians they've been dominant they've been dominant they really dominated at this Emma McKinnon on the men's side they used to have a guy they called the Thorpedo

Ian Thorpe the Australians they're great they're greatest women they normally give the Americans all they can have the she breaks Tittm wreck olympic record in 2021 and misses titmuss world record from last month by just 400th of a second

and tip is she's young i mean she's only 23 right ariana tip titmuss so but the longer distances where katieedecky will be favored, the 800 and the 1500 meters, if I'm not mistaken, she probably have the 30th fastest times in the 800 and the 30 fastest times in the 1500. But congratulations to all the winners. Congratulations, a dream come true. You work your whole life

for this. I mean, some people dreamed of going to the Olympics and being on that podium and hearing your national anthem play. Some of this has come to fruition. You got to stand on the medal. Nothing wrong with being the third best person in the world

at an event. Everybody wants gold. Let's not kid ourselves. Everybody wants to be number one, Ocho. But if I give you everything I got, Ocho, I can't. It's just like a football game, Ocho. And I tell Mike, I said, Mike, you know that guy got a check too?

I said, if I go out there and give a guy, if I give you everything I got, because I know what I put in it during the course of the week, I know the prep that led up to getting on that field on a Sunday or whatever the day it is. Get beat. I mean, what you want me to do? Listen, you win some, you lose some,

but anytime you can represent your country, and you can medal, you know you want gold. We all want gold. You put in four years worth of work to get to this point. Sometimes you can't win them all. But if you can medal, if you get silver, if you if you get bronze man i'm up there with a smile even if i you know i we all want gold we all want to be number one you know as long as you give it your best as long as that man if i'd have done this as long as there's no i'd have done this in the back of my mind

right you good ojo yeah i mean there have been some games I'm like damn I don't know why I tried that move I don't know why I tried to I should have just went arm over or I should have did this you know you got that in the back but sometimes hey dude covered my best route 84 you gotta win hell I thought I was

gonna win you thought I would have had to lose today you thought I would have had to lose today? You thought I would have had to lose today? Right, right, right, right. You know what? I found out. I told my position coach one time. I said, BP, I said, you know what I found out? I found out them guys study tape too.

You know that? We ain't the only one that watch tape. Yeah. They get paid too. Same way. As a matter of fact, BP, he made more money than me. yeah they get paid too same way as a matter of fact BP he make more money than me check this out Ocho

Canada is appealing its six point deduction levied by FIFA against the Olympics women's soccer team that stemmed from a staffer flying a drone over New Zealand's training session before the start of the Paris game. The Canadian Olympic Committee and Canada Soccer filed an appeal with the Court of Arbitration, CAS, on Monday arguing it unfairly punishes the athletes for the action. They had no part in what goes on.

Hold on. Wait a minute. They were going to be the ones that benefited. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Let me ask you a question, Ocho. They were going to be the ones that benefited. Yeah. Yeah. Why you, let me ask you a question.

Why do you think the coach or whomever responsible for this was flying the drone over the practice? Do you not think they were going to not going to pass that information down to the, to the, the, the players? Absolutely. That's the whole point.

That's the whole point. But you know, you know what the funny thing about it, when I think about, let's say if you do have information, you have drone information on what the tactics are and what they're going to do as far as practice goes when i think about the game of soccer think about the game of soccer i'm not sure what type of information you can give it would it would probably it would probably help you it would probably help in a sense but you still have to go out there and

execute you still have to go out there and score you still have to go out there and execute. You still have to go out there and score. You still have to go out there and pass. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Why do people rob banks? Because that's where the money is. If you were not going to get any information, why would you do it? It's like, it's the same argument that they used in Spygate.

Well, you still got, well, if you weren't gathering anything, think about how much time. You spend your time on things you think they're going to run. Right. How many... Let me ask you a question. How many teams you think that are defensive coordinators

devote time to the Wildcat now? None. You know why? Because they don't believe anybody's going to run it. Right it right so if you're gonna if you if you're gonna go to the length that you're gonna take a drone to fly over someone's practice oh so you believe you can gather information that's gonna help you at a later date time it's really that simple right you're right you're right i mean man man they stole the code well why you stole the code man i just did oh you stole somebody computer code you hacked somebody computer for what for information information yeah

there's something on that you felt could be beneficial if it's it's really that simple so this notion that oh you stole something or you did something that was, well, you still got to go out there and play the game. Well, it's a lot easier to play the game if I know what they're doing. Yes.

Yes. That's why they kept doing it. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Do you believe... They did it more than once? No, I'm saying, do you believe Coach Belichick would have stopped Spygate had he not been called?

Would he have stopped it on his own? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Think about how much money Pablo Escobar made. They say Pablo Escobar was doing a billion dollars a week. Yeah. At $52 billion a year. Why not just quit?

You got, I thought that's what you did. You know, I'm going to retire. Make enough money. I'm going to retire. So you mean to tell me somebody's going to get that kind of information? Yeah,

you're right. You're right. You ain't stopping. You supply 83% of the the world and think about this ocho you had already won three super bowls doing that you're not stopping yeah well i have a question yes how many did he win after you couldn't do spygate no more he still won but here's the thing that's like saying you get pop of PEDs and it's like well he hit the home run

but he hit home runs afterwards that still don't take away that you cheated before though we caught you that day okay Ocho you might not cheat anymore you know what Ocho you might not have cheated but we did catch you embezzling some funds now you might have went on the straight and narrow after

that but what we're supposed to overlook what you did before that? No, you don't overlook it. But what it does say is, you know what? Well, you ain't even need to do no goddamn spaghet because you probably would have won them anyway. We'll never know.

I mean, we won't. We can't. Because we can only go by the information that we have. Have. Yes, sir. That's it. Steve Kerr says, Jason Taylor will have playing time against South Sudan. Let's take a listen to what Steve Kerr had to say. For sure, the hardest part of this job is sitting at least a couple of guys who are world-class, some of the very best players on earth. On the other, I'm asking these guys to just commit to winning one game

and then move on to the next one. I have to do the same thing. And so I felt like last night those were the combinations that made the most sense. Jason will play tomorrow. I'm not going to answer your next question, which is if he plays, who doesn't? But we're going to need him. And part of this job for me is to keep everybody engaged and ready. It's hard, Ocho.

You've got 12 of the best players in the world. He's the only first-team All-NBA player that's on the roster. Yeah. And he didn't play a minute. Yeah. He didn't even take his jacket off. Yeah. I said it last night.

I said it last night. The pressure that is on Steve Kerr to keep all the players happy, to make sure everybody gets minutes, is very difficult. And I think he only came out today because of the backlash from the media and the backlash from the fans. So many people commented. That's not Christian Leitner in 1992. That's not Christian Leitner in 1992.

He's the only collegiate player against all the other. These are all world, all NBA, all star players. We know what Jordan and Magic and all the, we know what they were. This is not that. Jason Tatum is a champion. He's a three-time first team, all NBA selection. He's a perennial all-star. So it's not comparable to him being in a situation like Christian Laitner

on the 92 Dream Team where you have 11 pros, one collegiate player, and all these guys. Jason Taylor, hold on, bro. I get Braun. I get KD. I get Steph. If I can't go in for some for them, but I'll be down. If I got to take a backseat to everybody else yes yeah that's great especially coming at especially after coming off an nba

championship yes yes man i know you think he was upset did he look visibly upset man please understand about what i just said he's a three-time first-team All-NBA selection. He's a perennial All-Star. And he just won the championship. He didn't take his warm-up jacket off, Ocho. Do I think he was upset? So that means he already knew. No, I mean, you said that.

Maybe they were the conversation that was had before the game. No. The arena's cold. Guys always, when they're sitting on the bench, especially if they come out of the game, but he never went in the game. So you keep the jacket on to stay warm so when you know, hey, hey, Tatum!

And then they, okay, okay, I got you, I got you, I got you, I got you. Shit. What? I got you, I got you. Shit, boy. I could imagine a conversation they having as players. Hey, you know they're telling me, bro, keep your head up, hey, man. You know they making jokes now. No, no, no, no, not in this situation.

Not in this situation. Now, after we win the gold medal on the way back. Now you know how they are. Yeah. No, on the way back, Ocho, on the way back. Hey, because you know how we is, Ocho. Like, we be in the game. Somebody blowed up somebody get knocked out you know hey you okay we hey we let that face fly yeah oh boy yeah oh no hey listen you you saw some of the memes oh yeah for sure um you know them boys, man. Them jokes is flying now.

Them jokes is flying. I don't think, Ocho, they're different than us now. You get beat. You got to think about it now. You know your best player. They ain't give you no jokes now. Carson got blown up.

You ain't make no jokes. TJ got blown up. You ain't make no jokes. You, no. TJ got blown up. You ain't make no jokes. Right. Hey, you let a little time slide. Now, we win the gold medal. Hey, you win the gold medal the first day you say, hey, JT, you got to get yours back. You ain't play all the games.

You know what I'm saying? I'm just telling you what's going to be said. Because I've been in a situation where we had guys that really didn't play in the postseason. And, you know, when they show up for the ring ceremony, I'm like, why are you here? What you do? You must have cut the grass or you ain't got me. You bought something because you damn sure ain't play.

You know, you make fun of a situation then. But it's too raw right now, Ocho. Oh, he feeling some type of way now. Hey, listen, I don't know, man. Just being around them boys, man, them boys don't play now. And they want to catch you when it's fresh right out of the oven. So, I'm telling you, man, Katie ain't playing. Steph is a comedian.

Who else we got over there? Ant-Man. I know, gonna let it fly. Oh, hey, you... Ant ain't letting that slide, man. I'm telling you. Hey, I can hear the jokes right now. I don't think if JT doesn't sub in for LeBron, Steph, KD,

I think he cool with that. You're talking about guys that are MVPs, final MVPs. We know what LeBron represents. We know what Steph is. We know who KD is. But he said, hold on. You mean to tell me everybody else outside of those three better than me i can't you mean to tell me i can't get two minutes okay ocho we up by we up by 18 with

four minutes to live you can't bring your boy in now now that's even more disrespectful put me in with the lead that put me in the game the last four minutes and I ain't played all game yeah it's tough I mean he's a it was a tough spot regardless because yeah as JT has been a superstar player he knows what it's like to see guys on the bench and they'll get in the game yeah he just never

thought it would happen to him and then like you say I mean it's been situations like, hey, get in there. Like, hell no, I ain't going in there. Hell, you ain't, you know, I think I tell coach, no, I ain't going in. I'm good. You good. Y'all got it. Y'all,

hey, y'all done played all this time. Y'all done did all this. Y'all didn't need me. I ain't I ain't, hey, I ain't on no boogie, no, no, no, no boogie team. Oh no. You ain't going in there garbage time. Nope. Oh man,

that's messed up. He, he gonna, he gonna, he gonna play this game. Now listen, now look, all that is is added pressure on him too now.

Now everybody watching. So when they played it in that game and Jason Tatum is in there, what you think everybody's expecting? Right. Now you got to go in there and cut a fool what look we didn't need to go and do something bad to south sudan because they feeling good about themselves oh yeah oh yeah we need to go ahead from the jump jump on them right away yeah okay it was a great story um kind of like the Jamaican bobsledding team congratulations they gained the independence of what over

a decade ago Luol Ding has been unbelievable because he's been financing this team out of his own pocket but uh we about to show uh we about to show y'all there's

levels to this and a couple more years y'all can get there but y'all not on that level and we gonna show you today Ojo I can see you got that Spirit Airline WiFi huh

where it's bad and not in a good way but i'm i'm in i'm in a hotel i'm in i'm in a good hotel i'm at the grand boat oh i'm about to say where i'm at you i'm at a good hotel in orlando you must what you call it you must uh use the uh wi-fi from a spirit not i'm using the hotel wi-fi i even paid the extra 25 for the uh for the extra $25 for the fast connection or whatever they call it yeah oh yeah okay hold on wait a minute did we do

nightcap yesterday yeah I was home I drove to Orlando this morning oh yeah but you knew you was going to be on first take and you ain't share that with me wait I didn't know I was on first take to this morning you know you was going to be on first take and you ain't share that with me. Wait, I ain't know. I was on first take to this morning. You know,

you know, you didn't. No, I promise. I promise. No, listen, Dougie,

Dougie, Dougie didn't send me the thing. I was in the gym at six o'clock this morning and then they sent me a reminder at nine o'clock say, Oh yeah, you don't first take this one. I said, God dog.

I forgot mine. Yeah. I was almost late for my hit. Cause I was still in, I was still in, I was eating breakfast at 10 o'clock and the thing came through i said what i had to leave my food but but you but you knew there's a possibility that you could be on that they have been talking to you oh no they all that run through

all that run through them that was for the ea the madden stuff nah this ain't for no bad stuff they ask you stuff about tyreek they ask you a lot of other stuff. I'm sitting there watching it. Yeah, I know you're watching it. That's about Madden. Did you forget that the whole segment is about... So that's your first and last time being on First Take

this fall. Oh, no. I'm going back on Wednesday. Okay, okay. I was just making sure. Okay, yeah, yeah. Just making sure. But again, let me finish. I'm going back on Wednesday, but this okay. I was just making sure. Okay, yeah, yeah. I was just making sure. But again, let me finish. I'm going back on Wednesday, but this is still related to Madden. I think it's just going to be a different position. It might be DB's Wednesday,

or it might be quarterback's Wednesday. And I'm on Thursday too, I think. But all of it is based on the video game and the players' ratings for the new game coming out in a few weeks. And you know, I shot my shot today too. I told them, listen, y'all got me on

here and I would love to be on here a little bit more often. You know, hope the bosses saw that. Y'all want to come on and bring your boy on, let me know now. And they get me on first take, I'm going to get back 37 11 suits made, different colors with a nice matching shoes. For what? You're going to be in your house on the box. Oh no, I'm going in the studio. 3711 suits made different colors with the nice matching shoes and a tie.

You're going to be in your house on the box. Oh, no. I'm going in the box. I'm in studio. Oh, no. I'm in studio. It's cost prohibitive

because they see and don't see Ocho. Hold on. Hold on. I can get me a spare flight to New York real quick. I don't need to pay for nothing. Okay.

I'm going to let you have it. Okay. Whatever you say. I'll pay for my hotel. Okay. Just get me on first take. I don't care. You for nothing. Okay. I'm going to let you have it. Okay. I'll pay for my hotel. Okay. Just get me on first take. I don't care. You're going to be on first.

If you're going to be on first take, it's going to be on the box. I don't, I'm not, Ocho, I'm not even traveling to New York. See, you don't want to travel. I want to travel. I want to be in studio. No. I want my makeup done. I want people to see my suit tailored.

You know, I, I, they can see it. They can see my suit tailor sitting right here, just like this right here. Just like me and you talking. I can have a suit on and it be tailored. And I got some shorts on up underneath the suit. I don't like that. You see, cost-efficient. I can flash spirit.

I can put myself up. I don't need them to do that. I just want to be in studio. I want to feel like I'm a part of the show. Why would you put myself up. I don't need them to do that. I just want to be in studio. I want to feel like I'm a part of the show. Why did you put yourself up? Because I got Marriott points. I didn't put myself up.

Hell no. No? Listen, I'm just happy to be on TV, boy. That's it. Yeah, you're going to be on TV. Where do you think I'm going to be? Yeah, but you do it from home. I want to be on TV. You think I'm going to be? What do you think I'm going to be? Yeah, but you do it from home. I want to be in the studio.

I want the whole feeling. I want the feel. A lot of them do it from home. I mean, there are going to be times that they're like, okay, we need you to come to the studio. But for the most part, oh, no. Yeah. Well, I'm a little different because it's going to be my first time.

I ain't never been on TV before so i want to be i want to be in there i want to be i want to be present like when the teachers say chad present that's how i wanted to be no no no no because it was it was just it was just hard for me even leaving because i'm getting up at x amount of time and the car has to pick me up take me downtown to the studio so that's 35 40 minutes and then it's 45 minutes to 50 minutes on the way back that's an hour and a half hour 45 minutes of doing absolutely nothing i just don't have that kind of time to waste and then going going to new york and putting you putting me up and bringing my team ash have to come jordan has to come right it's just see for see for you it's a little different you have you

have a lot of moving parts in the way you operate in the way you move me it's just me yeah it's just me i get on one of them little bird scooters they got you know on the side of the street yeah on my suit swipe pay me a little credit card. Pay a dollar for the little ride. Ride to the studio. Ride back to my hotel in a little scooter. I'm good. I'm simple.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's just me. Well, have fun with that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

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Jalen Brown did not take Grant Hill's recent comments about U.S. basketball decision to replace Kawhi with Derek White and not Brown on the men's national team for Paris Olympics. Hill said, I think this idea that it's a conspiracy theory. I always love a good conspiracy theory. But it but what? But it what? But it was really, truly a basketball decision. There are tough decisions. You want to find the right balance and the right pieces on the court that we needed. Jalen tweeted that Grant calling me a conspiracy theorist is disappointing.

I've been VP since I was 21 years of old and have a great understanding. Is it politics? Now, this is something that you would know there's politics in everything it is there is politics in everything in the world now when it comes to basketball in the shoe that you represent or the shoe that you're endorsed by does that really matter what does that have to do with anything when it comes to playing for team usa now that i don't understand and you can probably educate me on that and give me another history lesson. I mean, they got guys with Nikes, Steph Curry's with Under Armour, Ant-Man is with Adidas.

I think Joel Embiid is with Skechers. Okay. So who is Jalen Brown with? I think he's by himself. He was with Nike, but he started crossing the Nike swoosh out, and I guess he's doing his own thing. I don't know who he's by himself. He was with Nike, but he started crossing the Nike swoosh out. I guess he's doing his own thing. I don't know who he's with.

Oh, so, okay, that might be an issue. But everybody got upset. It's their internal issues. But I don't get. Bro, there have been a lot. I mean, Greg Hill says, I'm trying to find the right balance. Yes, sir. And it's it's not easy

to find the right balance because obviously did you hear what they said? They said the only three that did not have to try out was Steph Curry LeBron James and Kevin Durant you talked about three of the most popular players. LeBron is the most popular player.

Steph is number two. KD is somewhere around in the top five. Okay, KD, this is your fourth Olympics. LeBron, this is your fourth Olympics. Steph, you've never been on the Olympics. Hey, bro, we'd love to have you. Everybody else. I mean, Jalen, bro, come on.

You get mad when Stephen A said that someone called and said he's not marketable. State your source. Well, that's the source. You got left at home and you're the finals MVP. You're the Eastern Conference MVP. I think Jalen Brown is phenomenal I think what he does in his community but those are two separate things

you can see the notion is just take IG for example there are people that got 20 and 30 and 50 million followers and you're like who the hell are they you can be a good player 50 million followers and you're like, who the hell are they? Yes, sir. You can be a good player and not be popular. You can be popular and not a good

player. Everything is not a conspiracy. I mean, he probably thinking he got left out because it was Nikeike and you know so what would the answer be because to me it doesn't make sense to me i i'm i'm not a conspiracy theorist but the whole thing he was with nike at one point not with nike anymore whatever happened internally being left off the i mean it kind of makes sense on why and i think he might

know why but i think the thing is oh joe but the question is i don't think he was in the pool to begin with was it come on now you don't think so i don't know i think they tried to find it look okay who can play around steph lebron and and KD? Okay. Anybody, young. Think about it. Any of the top players. Ocho, think about it. They took Holiday. Why?

He's a defensive guy. Yeah. We need you to pick up. They might have their best player. He might be a guard. He might be 6'6", 6'7", and below. We need you to hound him. Yeah. Look at Holiday.

Are there better players in the NBA than Drew Holiday? Yes. But he fit. Derek White fits. From a defensive standpoint. And, but here's the thing. This is what I want to know. Chad, y'all chime in with this.

If what had happened to Jason Tatum had happened to Jalen Brown how would he have handled it mm-hmm yeah I see that look on your face Ocho you think he would have complained I'm asking you I'm just posing the question to you that's a good one

I don't think he would have brought the attention to himself or the he's bringing attention to himself now. What do you mean? Yeah, because he was left out, left off, and he feel he was worthy of an opportunity to represent our country. Okay. He gets added as Kawhi's replacement,

and he doesn't play a single dribble. He's going to keep Kawhi like Jason Tatum and go on to the next game. Yes or no? I don't know that man personally. Just to be honest, I can't even answer for him. So you don't know that he's talking about conspiracy theories and he don't know why he's not on there. But you have to understand

the situation would be a little different if you're he's complaining about not being on the team. Now being on the team and being in Paris and complaining about not getting no minutes is two different things. I don't think so. Two totally completely well, at least I'm here. Bro, you're the finals MVP. You got a contract for $300 million.

Hey, that's tough though. That's tough. I know how you feel. You don't think, hold on. You don't think it's tough being one of the best NBA players and you don't take your warm-up jacket off? And y'all win by 26? You don't think that's tough? Yeah, it is.

It is. Yeah. It is. Hey, but you got to choose your battles, baby. That's game number two. Choose your battles. Choose your battles wisely. I just...

You got to think, Tate, you got so many more Olympics to hit, too. I think, man, J.B. is only a year older, and they're going to be in L.A. So the likelihood of Steph and LeBron and KD, now, it could. It could. I mean, KD and Steph could still be playing.

I think LeBron will be gone. I don't think LeBron is still be playing. I think LeBron will be gone. I don't think LeBron is going to play. I think LeBron is going to probably play, what, this will be 22, probably play 23, 24. I mean, the level he's playing at. But I don't want to put it out there that says, well, he's not going to play. Go ahead. With LeBron, his son Bryce.

When is his son Bryce in an NBA? What year? Bryce, what, a junior in high school? Is Bryce a junior or senior in high school this year? I think Ron is like two years. He's a junior. So that means he has a junior year, a sophomore year, a one year of college. So that's three years from now.

So you don't think Ron? Nah, I think he got what he wanted, was to play with Bronny. Now, I don't know if he imagined it like this. Right, right, right. With his own the same team, but to be in the

NBA and my son is in the NBA. Like, think about that. Like, real quick, Chad, think about that. I can't think about that. Anybody in the chat, if you play NBA 2K, imagine you being LeBron. Imagine you being Bronny and turning on your PS5, turning on your Xbox, and you go to play NBA 2K, and you get to play with you and your son y'all sitting there playing against each other or playing with i'm like that's oh that's crazy bryce is a senior

ocho he's a senior so he'll be in the class of 2025 so he's two years away from joining the nba okay okay okay oh that's crazy that's so dope and some people some people are upset about it some people are upset about it man that's the whole objective's so dope. And some people, some people upset about it. Some people upset about it, man. The whole objective is that for the first time we're normally, first of all, we're not, we're not normally in a position to even create nepotism.

So finally, somebody that looks like us from our community is in a situation. That's what they do all the time yeah andy reed had his sons on his staff yeah mike shenahan had his son on his staff i mean bill belichick had his son on his staff don't nobody say a word yeah now all of a sudden lebron has a it has the kind of power and the cachet. Now it's a problem. More people. I wish I had the kind of power that I could put my people in place.

Yeah. Hell, I'm thinking about it. After my kids told me what they're making, I'm like, well, damn. We got to see. They, they, they, what they've done is that they've convinced us that if we help our kid or we help someone that looks like us, it's a bad thing. If we bought it, we bought it. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

We have. Oh, look at it. That's his son. Okay. Yeah. And listen, in the sports world, in the the corporate world they do it all the time always hey what is the 80 85 percent of the jobs that get filled never get listed hey such and such what you do hey you know my job they down there hard. There you go.

Yeah, you good. But they've convinced us that if we help our family, or we help our kids, or someone, a friend, a relative, oh, man, you can't do that. Right. All the time. Mm-hmm. And I don't like to see, I don't like to see God leave when I think

oh man that's crazy but the thing is do I think JV should have been yes because Kawhi basically plays the same position as JV we're not arguing

that right but We're not arguing that. Right. But. Bro, I mean, if you live long enough, there are going to be some opportunities that maybe you were more qualified for. Qualified for. Than somebody else. Than somebody else.

It happens. Happens all the time. It's called the world. Yeah. Life. Life. Life. Hopefully, knock on wood, he stays healthy. In 2028, the Olympics are in LA and JB and

JT might dab in the heart of them. They're going to go dummy. There's a good chance that the big three that are there now, KD, LeBron, and Steph, won't be there. Because KD got to be a year like 18, didn't he? Isn't KD a year 18?

2000. Yeah, that's 18. Golly. Yes. And Steph came out what in 10 oh nine so steph is in year 16 i don't even it doesn't seem like it doesn't doesn't seem like that i mean people don't realize that yes kd is in year 18 year season 18 that's's crazy. It is.

But it's tough. I think the thing is what's toughest for JB, he's like, nobody. But it goes back to the Isaiah situation. You see? Now everybody gets to see how y'all pumping up Isaiah, how y'all was pumping up JB, but y'all was pooping on, well,

what you call him didn't want him on the team. You see? Now, Jack McCallum wrote a book that said the first thing they reached out to Jordan, Jordan said, who all gonna be on the team? Such and such gonna be on the team. I'll go if he doesn't. Because Isaiah had a finals MVP.

Isaiah was a multiple-time All-NBA player. He was a multiple-time All-NBA player. He was a multiple-time All-Star. He was a national champ, most outstanding player. He was supposed to go in 80, but they boycotted. So he didn't get an opportunity to go. And he got denied.

And everybody knows, it doesn't matter if you like or dislike, everybody knows why Isaiah wasn't on that team he's better he was better than John Stockton right and him and Jordan need to squash that stop this notion

well he didn't fit what you mean you heard me man Jordan and Isaiah need to squash that man life too short I'm just saying they need to Isaiah need to squash that man life too short man I'm just saying I'm just saying that they need to somebody need to be the bigger man I'm not sure who it would be but they need to squash that man it ain't gonna happen

it ain't especially after all these years I'm telling you the little bit that I know about Jordan he's a very prideful man and it was it was look and everybody say, the Pistons walked off. But go back and look at 88.

If you go back and look, when the Pistons beat the Celtics, they left the court. Nobody said a word. But I think the thing, had Bill Lambert left the court. Jordan didn't give a damn about no Bill Lambert. He said, Isaiah, you. Right. I shook your hand when you kicked my ass two, three times. Right.

Give me that. But Isaiah said, we the bad boy Pistons. What's wrong for one is one for all. Look, I know Isaiah a little bit better than I know Jordan. Isaiah's always been great to me. Jordan, when I've met him, he's always been great to me. So I don't really have

no dog in the fight. But I know this. Isaiah should have been on that Olympic team. No matter what you think about Isaiah, he should let it go. Ain't nothing they can do about it now Ocho cause he never gonna get what I feel and he knows that's the only

piece of his resume that's incomplete a gold medal he's like I'm a champion in college I'm a champion in the NBA I'm a finals I'm Isaiah I'm Zeke that's what it is but it's tough and I think the thing is that I'm Isaiah. I'm Zeke. That's what it is.

But it's tough. And I think the thing is that the Jalen Brown situation, I think Grant was trying to make light of the situation like, man, there ain't nothing really going on. He says, well, I like a good conspiracy theory. And Jalen says, well, you're not taking me serious

because you think this is some kind of a joke. And it is. I mean, like, why wouldn't I be on the team given what I had accomplished? Right. Politics. Man, politics is an everyday thing. Yeah.

It ain't just happened with Jalen Brown. Yeah. That's crazy. But if I'm him, I'm going to sit back and like, you know what? I got an Easter conference. I got a Larry Bird award. I got the Bill Russell award. Two guys that are beloved, that are mythical in my organization.

I got $300 million, and I I got a 12 piece on my own. I'm good. Yeah. I'm good. Oh yeah. You couldn't hit, man. You couldn't hit me.

If I had all that going on. Right. I just, I won the lab bird award, which is Easter carves MVP, the bill Russell award, which is the finals MVP. Right.

I got it. I just, the last year i got a 300 plus million dollar contract which i'm living up to and i got a lady that look like that yeah you you straight huh what hey he try he trying to he trying to complete the resume it's not enough you know how they think. Not enough. I see Ocho. Man, you know I know.

Ocho, do you know how many times that I thought that I should have went to the Pro Bowl? Because I look at my numbers and my numbers were better. My team record was better. And I didn't go. Yeah. Politics. It is what it is yeah would it look better Shannon Sharp 14 years or 10

time what do they call it Pro Bowl 10 Pro Bowl yeah double digit ain't a whole lot of guys that got double digit yeah that's hard boy that's consistency but it is what it is that's like hey maybe's consistency but it is what it is that's why hey

maybe some people thought I that I went early in my career that I didn't deserve to go pay right right it's hard to say that

when you look at my numbers because every year if you were tied in the AFC you wasn't going unless being or myself pulled out

right and you were nice hey man I'm the first alternate take off that's liar yeah yeah man oh so you think i want to fly from atlanta i want to fly from georgia that's a 10 hour and 12 minute flight direct from atlanta to hawaii i ain't trying to do that or if you break it up, you got to fly to San Diego.

Back then, you flew to San Diego, you flew to LA, or you flew to San Francisco. You waited two and a half hours, and then you went. So it's still, it took you five hours to get there, two and a half hours,

three hour wait, and then another three hours on there. So you're still over 10 hours. Yeah. I used to break mine up. I don't want people to think that I don't understand what JB is feeling because you can have all that. But I still think I earned,

not that I deserve, I think I earned the right to be on this team. I feel I'm one of the 12 best players that could have been selected to be on this team. I feel I'm one of the 12 best players that could have been selected to be on this team. Definitely. Definitely. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode,

I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.