Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: OSU/Michigan melee, Texas headed to SEC championship, Andrew Luck Stanford GM

Episode Date: December 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the post-game fight breaking out after Sherrone Moore and the Michigan Wolverines upset Ryan Day and the #2 Ohio State Buckeyes on their home turf. Later, Unc and Ocho dive into Steve Sarkisian, Quinn Ewers and the #3 Texas Longhorns staving off the #20 Texas A&M Aggies on the road 17-7 and heading to the SEC championship game to face off against Kirby Smart and the Georgia Bulldogs, Stanford University hires their ex-star QB Andrew Luck as General Manager for their football program and Unc and Ocho hope Luck can turn the program around, but have doubts on the personnel the program can obtain due to the different standards at Stanford compared to other universities and much more!04:00 - Show Start04:36 - Intro06:17 - Texas v TA&M13:19 - Michigan v Ohio State26:00 - NC State v UNC32:00 - Florida v FSU35:05 - Syracuse v Miami39:40 - GA v GaTech44:35 - Stanford bringing Luck in as GM52:00 - Jamir Gibbs in the doghouse58:27 - Kirk Cousins Falcons future1:01:41 - Bills asking for fans to shovel snow at stadium1:04:55 - Josh Allen’s next TD to make history(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And again, thank you for your support. As I mentioned earlier, Ocho, number three, Texas, went on the road and defeated number 24, Texas A&M, by the score of 17-7. Texas A&M's best player was Quint Ewers. Unfortunately, he's the quarterback by the score of 17-7. Texas A&M best player was Quinn Ewers. Unfortunately, he's the quarterback for the Texas Longhorns. He almost gave this game away, Ocho. He almost gave it away.

If Texas A&M could have done anything offensively, they beat Texas because Ewers did not play particularly well last night. A bad interception. He fumbled the ball when it was going. This game should have been put away in the third quarter. Long time. Long time ago. Listen, the Longhorns defense, I mean, they played a critical role,

obviously, forcing turnovers, shutting out the Aggies' offense in the first half. But the Aggies, obviously, if they could have got something going offensively, they didn't have a chance or did, nor did they capitalize on any of the turnovers that they got. The game could have been somewhat close, and the plays

that they made offensively and the turnovers that, not the Aggies, the turnovers that the Longhorns got, you know, they were able to capitalize and shut this game out. Now, the biggest test for Texas now is that championship game. That championship game. The kind of defense Texas played tonight, this is exactly what we're going to need in all three phases,

whether it's offensively, defensively, and special teams, because they're playing a Georgia team that dominated the first time they played up front. The battle of this game and the chance of winning this game is going to start up front with that offensive line and the defensive line being able to be stout on defense and the offensive line being able to hold up and that offense making the play they need to play. And Quinn Ayers can't make the mistakes he made tonight

against a Georgia team that will capitalize and pounce on any turnovers that they have. Yeah, you're right, Ochoa. The first time they played, Georgia went into Austin and beat them up. They just beat them up mentally, physically, emotionally. They really did some damage on them. But give Sark credit for getting these guys to bounce back. They come back, and they played really, really well,

and they worked their way back into the SEC championship game. You're right. They got a pick-six touchdown, Texas A&M. really, really well, and they worked their way back into the SEC championship game. You're right. They got a pick-six touchdown Texas A&M. They got another forced fumble, and they got stopped on the goal line. See, I don't understand that, Ocho, because you need two scores anyway. One way or another, you're going

to need two scores. And if you really think about it, Ocho, you hadn't had a whole lot of success running the football. At some point in time, you got to put the guy and give him a two-way go. Son, if the guy's not wide open, run it in. But if there's a throw to be made, we're going to need you to make a throw. But to just hand the ball off and just run into the line of scrimmage,

Texas was waiting for that. I mean, that showed me that you really don't trust. That showed me you didn't really trust. You didn't really trust your quarterback. Yeah. I understand Ocho, he is a freshman. But at some point in time, in order for you to win, we know this, no matter what the level, your quarterback's going to have to make a play.

He's going to have to put the ball up. He's going to have to make a play one way or another. And you got to trust him that he's going to make a smart decision. He's going to make the right decision. He's going to make the right play. But give Texas credit. Because you can feel about that pick six. They go right back down there and then yours

gets stripped flat. I mean, stripped on the, he's sliding. I thought, man, Texas A&M got the momentum now. They're at home. That crowd started. Bryanfield started rocking. You know, Ocho, they put 108,000.

The house that Johnny built. Yeah. Man. But give Tech, give Sark. I thought Sark did an unbelievable job. I always thought he was a very good offensive-minded coach. He has great people around him to make things happen. Texas A&M did not play well tonight, Ocho. Listen, I enjoyed the game.

It was a good rivalry. I'm glad they didn't fight like everybody else across the board with the other rivalries. Oh, man. We don't get to that. Well, let's get into that. Yeah. That went on. I mean, but you got to trust your quarterback, huh?

You got to trust your quarterback. You do. At some point in time, Ocho, especially in a situation like that. In a game like this, you don't have a choice. You're going to keep running the ball into the strength of the Texas defense. The goddamn front seven, the front four, the front five, whatever you want to call it. You had no success

running all night, so you have no choice. But to pin your ears back, let your quarterback know, listen, I'm trusting you. You got to make the right throws. You have to make the right decisions with the ball to even give us a chance. Not only to compete, but at least a chance to win. Give your team a chance. Even if you don't trust him early, not only to compete, but at least a chance to win. Right. Give your team a chance.

Even if you don't trust him early, you got to trust him late. Because at some point in time, Ocho, he's going to have to put the ball up. The days are just, every once in a while, you'll find a game where you can just run the ball down your opponent's throat. Yeah, this ain't that game, Al. That wasn't the game. You're going to have to loosen them up to make them think that you're going to do something else other than run the football.

That's why they stop you so many times on third and short, fourth and short, because they don't throw caution to the wind. Listen, if they throw a pass, that's on us. If they throw up, because sometimes, you know, we'll call them. And I remember Mike and Alex Gibbs, our office will say, look, if they do something other than what we expected, that's on us. But this is what we expect. We want you to execute this. We're expecting this defense. And if they give us another defense, that's on us.

Oh, bro, if they do something other than run the football, Texas basically said, if they do something other than run the football, that's on us. Right. We don't believe that they trust their freshman quarterback enough to put the ball in his hand and allow him to throw the football. So the hell with worried about that.

Hey, everybody hit it. Right. It's like the hitting the beach. And also we hitting the beach in Normandy. Go, go, go.

A gap, B gap, C gap, D, A. If there isn't a hole, make a hole. Man, they, bro, dude wasn't even close. Ocho, he

wasn't, they wasn't even close to picking up those short yardage. I can see, Ocho, we have to come in for a measurement before we get a review. Ocho, it wasn't even close. Not even close. They was losing yards on the third and short, fourth and short.

I'm like, well, damn. Did y'all even block them? Because you're at home. I can understand if you're on the road because the crowd is going, Ocho. And so it's kind of hard to see. So I'm hard to hear. And so you might be late getting off the ball. But you're at home.

Yeah. And Texas still beat you off the ball. Mm-hmm. Let's go to one of the situations. Michigan ups at number two, Ohio State 13-10. Fight breaks out after Michigan planted a flag at midfield. A fight

between both teams ensued. Police used mace on players to stop the fight. Ryan Day. Where was Ryan Day? There's a video showing that Ryan Day was just standing there and watching. Ocho, that's a bad look on him. Before I let you go, that's a bad look on him because you've got to get control of your players.

And as one of the Michigan players that I always firmly believe this, Ocho, man, we had 60 minutes to fight. Now we done whipped y'all ass. Now y'all want to fight now. Now, now, we about to go. Right. Go ahead, take off. Listen, as a coach, you know,

sometimes coaches aren't ready for situations like that where it's a melee, where all hell is broken loose. You know, in a structured environment, you're able to control the fight. You know, whether it's your team, you know, in camp loose. You know, in a structured environment, you're able to control the fight. You know, whether it's your team, you know, in camp most of the time, you know, teammates fight. You know, I see that all the time in training camp.

But in the middle of a field, when there's a melee like that, I think it'll make a coach that's not used to that situation, make him very, very uncomfortable, which is probably why he was standing back, because there's no way to control that many players going at it. It's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. But listen, when is the last time Ohio State beat Michigan?

Probably about four years ago. Okay, so I'm not, you know, I keep hearing the upset, upset. It was an upset. Well, obviously it hasn't been an upset because Ohio State hasn't won in the past three previous meetings. But here's the previous couple of years, Michigan was ranked higher. This time, Michigan's not even ranked. It's the number two team in the country.

You're at home, and you're 19 and a half point favorites. But also, even with the favorites, even with the rankings, right? Think about the rankings this year for many, many teams that have been ranked high and been losing to other opponents. Those rankings really haven't meant anything. A lot of times that's on the road, though, Ocho. Yeah. Alabama lost to Vanderbilt on the road.

They lost to Tennessee on the road. They lost to Oklahoma on the road. Right. We see these teams. We lost to Georgia. Lost on the road. Ole Miss lost. Alabama on the road.

Mm-hmm. At home? You 19-point favorites at home against a team that's unright now i'm not saying look a loss is a loss but this was supposed supposed to be the year it's reported that excuse me ohio state has a 20 million dollar roster yeah offensively they do they got to but listen all credit due to the Wolverines' defense tonight. Them boys play some ball, man. Salute to defensive coordinator Wink Martindale.

Because they had an absolute and dominant stretch and performance. And he had them playing phenomenal football. To be able to hold Ohio State to the amount of points that they had with all the superstars that they had on offense, like you said, that $20 million roster, man, they played great. They played really good ball. And it was a good game. And listen, tempers flare, especially when you try to plant that flag.

I call it the Baker Mayfield. I'm sure it's probably been done before Baker Mayfield came along and planted that flag in the middle of the opponent's home field after a game. But, you know, that's just what happens. And like the Michigan player said, I don't know what his last name was, but you did have 60 minutes to fight. You know, but it comes down to respect as well. Okay, you guys won the game, but you didn't even be planting your flag.

Nah. So we had this 60 minutes. Why didn't y'all stop us then? Why do you want to fight now? You want to fight? Look here. I heard the military looking for a few good men.

Join the military if you want to fight, God dang it. They send your ass overseas. If that's what you want to do, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine, Coast Guard, they're looking for a few good men.

If that's what you want to do, fight. You had 60 minutes to line it up. and now you mad. Why you want to fight now? Yeah, you right. Why you, Ocho, we did the same thing happen when we played the Steelers. We beat them in the AFC Championship game at the old Three Rivers Stadium, Ocho.

Now everybody pushing and shoving. Yeah, Sharp, hey, bet you want to fight? Meet me at the bus. Bro, when I go to the bus, we going home. We going to see World. We going to see Shabu. You have 60 minutes to fight. Now you want to fight. Get your ass off this field and let us celebrate.

Hey, get him off the field. Now you know I got to rub it in. I see. Ocho, you know how we are. Once I see him bother you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You egg it on. Security. Get his ass off the field. He's not a part Ocho, you know how we are. Once I see him bother you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You egg it on. Security. You egg it on.

Get his ass off the field. He's not a part of the Broncos. The Broncos are the only team that's going to be staying out here on the planet. I said, how does that make y'all feel? We celebrating in y'all house. Y'all looking at the house like this. We got cake, ice cream. We got all kinds of stuff going on.

We got balloons. Yeah. Ocho, You know how black people are. Once we find out something bothers you, you pour it on. We pour gasoline on the fire. Absolutely. Every time.

Hey, but that goddamn Michigan defense though, man. Ohio State, they got too many superstars. They got too many superstars, man. Listen, offensively, they only had 252ars, man. That's what I said. Listen, offensively, they only had 252 yards a day. There's no way in hell

you're only supposed to have 252 yards with an offensive. Sometimes you try to prove a point. You throw the ball. You ain't got to prove it. Ocho, I ain't got to try to prove that I'm tough.

We're more physical. We're going to show them. I'm trying to win the game. I ain't got to prove it. Ocho, I ain't got to try to prove that I'm tough. We're more physical. We're going to show them. I'm trying to win the game. I ain't got to show you nothing. I don't get it. Y'all got the superior speed at the skill position. And you try to hit your... First of all, Sherron Moore, the mere fact that he won six games are now seven

with that quarterback it needs to be studied so whatever he's asking for monetarily michigan give it to him yeah ain't no that quarterback is look i understand he'll key it but he bad he got the guy wide open he about they about to break the game open yeah and he hit 33 right in the chest

all they gotta do is throw it over the top he got a guy like 10 10 like 5-6 yards behind him all he gotta do is just throw it over the top

he hit 33 right between the numbers yeah I'm like bro how you know the funny thing is? With that quarterback? Right.

With a quarterback that's playing as bad as he is, that lets you know this is where coaching comes into play. This is where coaching comes into play, where they're able to overcome bad quarterback play and beat a very, very, very good team. Number two team in the country. At home. Number two team in the country that is ranked high.

You know? Well, hell, Will Howard didn't make it no easier. You know, he two team in the country. At home. Number two team in the country that is ranked high. You know, well, hell, Will Howard didn't make it no easier. You know, he threw some in the set. He was good and terrible too.

Good and terrible, but on third down, this is where they really lost the game. Yeah. You're 16 on third down. Yeah. You ain't really going to be

able to do much of nothing with that. Much of nothing. When your offense is playing that bad, as bad as Michigan offense was, the defense has to stand on their head. And they stood on their head today.

Yeah. They gave up seven points to a team at home, the number two team in the country at home. That, hey, that quarterback that just got 12 million, he like, I like this.

I like what a company do that. Listen, that mean Michigan, Michigan gonna be scary next year. Yeah. Nah, Michigan, I don't know what y'all working at. Go and get that man his money now. Yeah. Matter of fact.

He done play game to game. Go on and give him five, six year deal. And you don't need to play with him. Yeah. And you don't need to play with him. Ocho, I don't know how Ryan Day keeps this job. I don't. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

You think they're going to let him go? Look, I mean, if you look at Ocho, he's lost one game to someone. He's 47-1 against everybody else in the Big Ten. He's 1-4 against Michigan. Yeah. You got to win that game. Win that game, yeah. But I don't think that's a fireable offense.

I don't think that's a... It's not like coaching my practice like Brother Eberflus. Did I say that right? Yes. It ain't like that. It's finding a way. What is it that we need to do differently when we play Michigan? Now, I think that's something that administration, AD,

that they can come to terms with him and figure out how can we beat them. We figured out everybody else. What do we need to do when we get to the game, when it's time to play Michigan, that we need to do differently? And just like you said, stop trying to prove something. Stop trying to impose your will. We're running the ball trying to show that you are tougher and trying to prove something. Stop trying to impose your will, but running the ball, trying to show that you are tougher and stick to your

strengths in what you do well. You have elite receivers. One of the best in the country as a freshman in Jeremiah Smith. A good quarterback defensive play, but you have a surrounding cast that can overcome that bad inconsistent quarterback play

that Will Howard is, you know. Yeah, he picked the worst day to have it. He picked the bad day to have his worst game, Ocho. Yeah. And you know, look, you know your quarterback at some point in time is going to have a bad game. Everybody's going to have a bad game. You just hope it's not.

Please don't let us have a bad game. Not a game like tonight. Or Super Bowl. Yeah, not against Michigan. Play bad against somebody else. You can play bad against Penn State. Right. But you can't play bad against Michigan because that's the game.

It's like Alabama and Auburn. You can't play bad in that game, Ocho. Nah. It's like, you know, whatever rival. Like Miami, Florida. Miami, Florida. Florida State. Florida. Miami, Florida, Florida State, Florida, Miami, Florida State.

You can't play. When you got a rivalry game, you got to play. Because that's the game. Now, if you want to be a legend, you want to be remembered, play well in those games, Ocho. They'll never forget you. At all, ever. They'll never forget you.

The city, the school, the fans. It's going to be very, very interesting because the question is, look, who are you going to get to replace Ryan Day? I mean, it sounds like a great thing when Urban left. That's like, oh, we got Ryan Day, blah, blah, blah. And he's going to the college football playoffs and so forth and so on. But Ocho, it's the games that he's supposed to win. The Michigan.

I get the last two years. Not this year, but the last two years. Right. Michigan had a juggernaut. Michigan went to the college football playoff. They won the national championship last year. Right. Okay, we could understand that.

There ain't no shame in that. Right. But there have been some games that you've been favorite, that you got it handed to you. You still lost. And a couple of years ago, they just ran the ball. They didn't even throw it. They just like,

we're going to just bludgeon y'all. Right. That's what we're going to do. We're just going to bludgeon you. No tricks. No trickery. No nothing. Ain't nothing you can do about it.

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Hey, them boys was out there squabbling, you know? Again, they had the opportunity to fight. They had an hour. They had an hour. They had 60 minutes. They had an hour. They had an hour. 60 minutes. They had 60 minutes to prevent this from happening. Obviously, what are you going to do when you win your rivalry game? You're going to celebrate.

What do you normally celebrate, whether it be basketball, whether it be football, in the middle of the field where the goddamn local is? Yes. There's nothing you can do about it. And I think there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it. And you know what? A little squabbling ain't never hurt nobody.

Yeah. Now, you know, some people say, you know, there's no place for it in the game and all that. I can't think of a better place for it. Exactly. And you know what? Honestly, can I tell you something? It makes rivalry that much more exciting and anticipating.

And you want to look forward to the following year. Just a little bit. Ain't nobody following year. Just a little bit. Ain't nobody getting hurt. Just a little bit. Ain't nobody getting hurt. Just a little squabbling. Ain't never hurt nobody. That's it.

Just a little bit. I just want y'all to know I'm trying to be as disrespectful as I possibly can. Ain't no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Because I want you,

I want you to know, I want you to feel this. I want you to hate me. I want you to know, I want you to feel this. I want you to hate me. I want you to despise my team. I want you to despise me because I see that I rule the day that you came into existence. Yes, I dislike you just that much. So there ain't no secret here. Yes, don't let me win.

After you've been running your mouth the whole year. All year, yeah. Okay, now we got 60 minutes to settle. don't let me win after you've been running your mouth the whole year. All year, yeah. Okay, now we got 60 minutes to settle this. We get four quarters to settle it. Right. I win what you, look, I'm gonna let you know this.

I'm a sore loser. Loser, yeah. But I'm a worse winner. I just want y'all to know that I told y'all, if you think I'm a bad loser, don't let me win. Right. And you better not let me win in

your house. Yeah. That'd make it even worse. I'm leaving muddy work boots. Man, who accused of these? Yeah, they're mine. Yeah, I'm leaving my muddy work boots. Yes, absolutely, Ocho. I'm going to be as

disrespectful, as blatantly, as blatantly disrespectful as I possibly can. Because you've been running your mouth the whole year. You've been talking the whole game. And now look at you. Now you want to fight. You showed more hostility after the game than you did during the game. Yeah.

So what was this? Where was all them muscles? What was all that venom that you got right now? Right. Get off the field. And listen, coaches will never be able to say this.

Coaches will never be able to say how they really truly feel about small, small skirmishes like this. You know, it's good for the game in a sense and the rivalry itself. No matter what these pundits and these analysts may say, good for the game of football. It just is. I don't know how to explain it.

I can't put it into words, but I'm giving you as enough context as I can. As a fan of college football, as a fan of sports in general, it makes it that much more exciting, especially coming up next year. When you look at the calendar and the schedule come out, Michigan, Ohio State, they're going to circle that game. When it's UNC and North Carolina State to play again, they're going to circle that game as one. We got to watch this. We circling too. We're going to put foots in you again. On this day a year later, foots

in you again. They do all that talking. That's what makes you mad though, Ocho. Y'all did all that talking. All the build up. Y'all saying what y'all saying in the paper and on radio, so forth and so on. We saying what we say. Now, we're going to get a chance to prove it.

That's the thing about sports, Ocho. See, you can't talk your way out of the ass with it. You can't. You got to play. You got to perform. You got to play. You got to perform. Whatever you did during that week, all them X's and O's, all that film study, you got to perform you got to play you got to perform whatever you did during that week all them x's and o's all that film study you got to put it on camera because i ain't a sky yeah what what dylan reese tell sugar bring your ass sugar bring your ass sugar now you've been

talking you say i've seen you you've been talking sugar bring your ass. Come on out here. Hey, that's a classic. No, no, no, no. Hey, that's a classic. What was Richard Pryor's character name? Ray. Ray? No, Ray.

No, no, no, Ray. Undo it. Undo it. Nah, she want some of me? She want a piece of me? Hey, Benny, you shut up too, Benny. You blind bastard. She want a piece of me? And Benny, you shut up too, Benny. You blind bastard.

Yeah. Man, you did all that talking. Now, we got to settle it. We going to settle it. Now, this is what's going to happen. If you win, you get to brag. You get to boast. You get to say and do whatever. But when I win, don't try to suppress my celebration and

talk about not here. Not talk about no. Right. Skedaddle. Oh, man. That's classic, man. Damn! Another fight broke out after the Florida 31-11 win at Florida State in Tallahassee. In the final seconds ticked off,

Gators edge rusher George Gumbs Jr. planted the Florida flag on the Seminole's 50-yard line, marking an immediate shoving match between the players from both teams. At one point, Florida State coach Mike Novell grabbed the Florida flag through

it as the pushing match continued. He and Florida's coach Billy Napier exchanged words, but ultimately shook hands and dispersed. I like that. I like that. Listen, I don't know what Florida State fighting for. I don't even know what Florida fighting for.

There was a bit of inconsistency from both teams, you know, throughout the season. There's no reason for y'all to be fighting. Yeah. There really ain't no reason. But you know what would have made it even better? What is? If the head coaches had got into it and started a little squirming, you know? But I ain't finna lose my

$10 million of your job if it was y'all. Yeah. Hey, listen, it's the last game of the season. It'll be the last game of your career, too. Yeah, that, too. But, listen, it's rivalry. And Florida, man, 31-11, there was no need to even plant the flag because the ass was already handed.

The ass was already dealt. The belt to ass was already given to Florida State from Florida. There was no need to even plant the flag because the ass was already handed. The ass was already dealt. The belt to ass was already given to Florida State from Florida. It was no need for that plant flag. You know what's happening. You know what's going to happen. The NCAA is going to pass a rule. You can't plant flags at Memphis. You know that's coming, Ocho. Ocho is coming.

They can't ruin it like that. Let the game remain fun and let teams celebrate. If you don't want nobody to plant the flag on your goddamn field when they're playing away and at your home, win the game. You got an hour to do so. You got an hour to take care of business. You remember when fans started storming the field, they started hitting them with quarter million dollar fines.

Yeah, in schools, yeah. They going to start fining them heavily. Mm-hmm. There's going to be a penalty. You watch. Because it's happening too much,

Ocho. Look, these games have been going on, I mean, Ocho, we saw what, four or five of these

today. Mm-hmm. And so what we see, starting to see an uptick of it. Yeah, but we ain't seen them all year, huh?

There's a reason you seen them because it's rivalry week. Ain't nothing wrong with a little skirmish, a little squabbling at the end of the season. It's okay. Nobody getting hurt. Nobody getting hurt. Hey, the NCAA say that's not what we're about.

Shit. Listen, what y'all is about is just about money. At the end of the day, we know what it's about. We don't want y'all to turn it off on y'all. We don't want y'all to turn it off. We don't want y'all is about is about money. At the end of the day, we know what it's about. We don't want y'all to turn it off, Ocho. We don't want y'all to turn it off. We don't want y'all to watch us. And so we know y'all don't like fighting.

And so we're going to put. Hold on. Boy, this is America. You know how this was got? Yeah. Through violence. So what we're going to do, Ocho. What we're going to do, we're going do, Ocho, what we gonna do,

we gonna, we gonna nip this. We couldn't get it in the bud. They sprouted up a little bit, but we gonna nip it. We gonna make sure it doesn't grow any further. Fire's coming.

Watch what I tell you. We gonna revisit this next year. Syracuse upset number six, Miami, 42-38. Miami is now officially out of the ACC championship game. Kyle McCord threw for 380 yards and three touchdowns for the Orange. Cam Ward had 349 yards passing with two touchdowns for the Canes,

who will be off next week while Clemson face SMU in the ACC championship. The Canes will have hoped for an at-large bid into the 12-team playoff. Ocho, you had a 21-point lead. Yeah. Listen, you got to put that game away. You got to put that game away. I'm not sure what Miami was doing offensively. Listen, they grabbed early scoring touchdowns in their first three possessions.

You know? Took a quick 21-0 lead. I don't know what the hell happened after that, especially offensively. They took the foot off the gas, Ocho. You can't take your foot off the gas, huh? You are playing to be in the goddamn, hold on, in the ACC championship. You're right.

You're playing for that. This is a game where you want to put up as many points as possible as early as possible and extend that distance so when the momentum in the game shifts, you don't have to go down to the wire at the end of the game and be fighting for your life. You're right.

You're right. You let Syracuse hang around and look what happens. It always happens like that. You let a team hang around in the bin, they end up kicking your ass. That's what happens. That's why you kill a gnat with a sledgehammer. You don't brush it, Mohammer. You don't rush it, Mocho. You don't... No. Kill him with a sledgehammer

and be done with him. 21 points on two, you got to make that stand up. Defense, you got to make that stand up. Got to make it stand up. Damn. How much separation can you put when you have the momentum, Mocho? How much separation can you put between you and the team that you're playing

that you got the momentum against? Because they're going to get the momentum now. The momentum is going to swing back their way, Ocho. Right. Yeah, always. Because you have to understand you're on the road. So now when they get the momentum, how much damage are they going to do to you? Did you put enough separation between, okay, they got the momentum,

but we're so far ahead, they can't do any damage. They can't do nothing about it, yeah. But that was a good game. I mean, both quarterbacks I thought played really well. 380 yards for one

and three touchdowns, 349 and two touchdowns for the other. But Miami's going to be kicking themselves. But look, Miami's been, Ochoa, they've been

tempted to fade all year. Think about all the games that they've come from behind and ended up winning. Yeah, in that last quarter, at the last minute, where some of those games...

They came back on Cal. Remember, they came back on Cal. It was like three or four teams on the show that had them dead to right. Yeah. Duke had them

and they come back and win the game. You keep... Yeah. Hey, okay. Yeah. But listen, you know what I am happy about?

What's that? As far as the program is concerned, they're back to winning. Yeah. Back listen, you know what I am happy about? As far as the Miami program is concerned, they're back to winning. Yeah. Back to winning. I'm not saying they look like Miami of old, of the 90s and early 2000s. Oh, hell no. They ain't getting back to that. Yeah. No, yeah. They're back to winning consistently. They're back to winning consistently. So head coach is doing a really good job over there. But games like this, you need to win.

The Hurricanes is already playing the ACC championship. They deserve it. They games like this, you need to win. The Hurricanes deserve to be playing the ACC championship. They deserve. They deserve. They dropped the ball today. They didn't earn it, though. They deserve to be there, but they didn't earn the right to be there.

Yeah, you right. You right. But the Canes, you got to understand, the Canes, they're not going to get no cut. I mean, you might get one, but you got to realize

what they had in the 80s when they had J Boogie, they had Terrence DeVerti, they had Cozart, they had Highsmith, they had Danny Stubb, they had the pair, they had, you know, they had, who they had, Benny and Bob, Benny and Blaze,

the Blaze Brothers. Yeah, the Blaze Brothers. It was different back then. Michael, did you have Playmaker? Mm-hmm. And then when you come it was different back then even in early 2000 Michael, did you have Playmaker? and then when you come to early 2000 when you have Portis and Sean Taylor

and Ed Reed it's not even fair Andre Johnson, Santana Malk Sanur Ross it's not even fair Reggie Wayne you remember you had Shockey you had Greg Olsen, you had Reggie. Remember you had Shockey. You had Greg Olson.

You had Winslow II. You had Everett, another tight end that ended up going to Buffalo in the early round. They were loaded. They had Dwayne Starks. Hold on.

They had Antwell Rowe. Yeah, and this is at every position. This ain't just skill. McKinney and Carey. Man, different. It was different. They'll never get back to that because the NIL has made it that much more difficult. Yes.

Much more difficult. Yes. But it's good to see them back on the winning track. It is. Georgia needed eight overtimes, Ocho, to get the 44-42 home win over Georgia Tech. In a game that they were favored to win by three touchdowns, it's the first time the Bulldogs has ever come a 17-point or more deficit since 2006.

It's only the second time in the past 20 seasons in which they've rallied for a 14-point deficit in the fourth quarter. Georgia Tech had the game won. The quarterback got a first down. He got hit. He fumbled the ball. They got a seven-point lead, Ojo. They got the game won.

The game was won. All they got to do is hold on to the ball. That's it. Georgia goes down in their score, and eight overtimes later, it's 44-42. You see? You think about the record, right? You see where Georgia Tech is ranked?

Yes. You see where Georgia Tech's record is? For some reason, it's like in the NFL, when it comes to playing a divisional opponent, no matter how bad your season is going, for some reason, they're going to give you a game. Yeah. They're going to give you a game. I'm not sure Texas, when Texas does watch this film,

on what Georgia Tech was able to do, you're not going to sit here and tell me that Georgia Tech players up front in that skill position is that much better than those at Texas. I'm buying that. And I'm not believing it. But if they can do what they did to Georgia

in making it a game to where you had to go to eight overtimes, ain't no way y'all can allow a 30-15 shellacking like y'all took early in the season happen a second time. Not in the championship game. I know better than that.

That's going to be a tough game because, you know, Georgia basically at home. They play in the Mercedes-Benz. That's an hour away, Ocho. Do you know how much black and red is going to be in that building? Now, I know Texas travel.

Oh, they travel well. They travel well. Them Georgia dogs. They're different. Man, they're home that's out from Athens yeah but you gotta think now we talk about Texas

they travel well it's like the Eagles or the Steelers having to play somewhere else in somebody else's stadium they travel well and Georgia the Georgia Bulldogs

or the Cowboys yeah okay I know you I know you're going you're right about that you're right by that. You're right by there. Remember we was having that discussion and we talked about what, who's the most popular team in the state.

Whatever I say. Bulldogs. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. Bulldogs. Most definitely. Bulldogs.

And then the Braves. And then you pick, you can pick whoever you want. You want the Falcons. You want, you want the, uh, uh,

the Hawks. Right. The MLS team. The Bulldogs and the Falcons. You want the Hawks. Right. The MLF team. The Bulldogs and the Falcons. Number one. Bulldogs by a long stretch. Mm-hmm. Because the Braves used to be terrible.

The Braves were awful. The Falcons was terrible. And, well, we know the Falcons. Yeah. When they was bad. But they got time. Even when they were bad but they got time even when they were bad it didn't matter why it was a party and they kept that going because now it's a party you go to the georgia dome well mercedes is not georgia dome excuse me mercedes-benz dome now it's a party and then when they got vick oh man listen. Oh, man, listen. Listen.

The Michael, the Michael Vick era was an experience, uncle. That's what they called it, the Michael Vick experience. Listen, it was an experience and you had to be there to understand.

You had to. And this is someone that didn't even play in Atlanta. I was in Cincinnati. But his time and his era was an experience. One that can be explained.

Had you, watching what he did in the past, it don't do you no justice no i was in the city i lived it had to be there man you had to be i don't think people understand how great michael vick was during that time especially in atlanta oh my god it was it's crazy i mean he was he was he was lamar jackson on steroids yeah he was lamar jackson on steroids and we know how good uh l jack marie uh he's a two-time mvp uh he's one of the top two quarterbacks in football he's one of the three or four best players in all of football and i'm not saying he's two or three. But boy, hey, Michael Vick was... It's different.

It was. It's different. And a lot of people won't understand it because the first thing they'll go to is they'll go to numbers and they'll dissect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not debating that. Yeah, we're not debating that.

But when Michael Vick was playing, when Michael Vick had the ball in his hands... You had to be there. The kind of player, you know, you just hold your breath. When Reggie Bush was at USC, he's the kind of player when the ball in his hands,

you hold your breath. Cause you don't know what the F been to happen. When Peter Warwick was at Florida state and the ball was coming his way, or they punt return or, or they threw him a hitch or something. You hold your breath. You don't know what the hell finna happen. They was, he was, he was something going to happen. He was something special, man.

He was something special. Oh, Joe, looking for a spark to get the team back on track. Stanford is bringing back one of its school's legends, Andrew Luck, to work as the general manager of the football program. Her ESPN, Pete Famel, Luck accepted a position that would put him in charge of the entire program and is considered a distinct evolution from one of the traditional roles of a college general manager. In a phone interview with Thamel, Luck confirmed his new job and the role involves everything Stanford football touches,

football-wise and business-wise. He will also help with fundraising, securing sponsorships, increasing attendance, and alumni relationships. Do you like that, Ocho? Hey, I love the move. I love the move, especially putting someone like Andrew Luck in that position.

Someone who's had sex, excuse me, someone who's had success, you know, at the NFL level, short tenure, obviously due to the injuries, but he's the perfect candidate for this. He's the perfect person. He's a great, I hate using the word mascot, representative for Stanford, what he was

able to do and accomplish during his time there. Now with this idea, now you know how I am. I'm all about business. I'm all about branding. I'm all about marketing. Now I'm thinking in turn for myself and being able to add another job and diversify my portfolio, what do you think about me becoming a GM of two college programs that I can think of that are dear to my heart, where I can do the same things and offer the same responsibility and be offered the same responsibilities that Andrew Luck is or general manager at FAMU. Let me know.

It's a full-time job. Pardon me? You're not going to give up your other job. That's a full-time job. His responsibility is fundraising, securing sponsorships, increasing attendance, his responsibility fundraising securing sponsorships

increasing attendance and a love-doubt relationship that's an everyday job I'm not saying that you can't but I'm saying that you can't do those other things that's what I'm saying yeah I know you can do it you're charismatic

you're relatable you can get out there in front of the people yes absolutely you know how to smooth. Yes. But you can't do those other things. That's the problem. Damn.

Okay, well, that's off the table. That's off the table. But, I mean, yes, that's off the table. But kudos to Andrew Luck. I think this is going to be good for Stanford. I'm not sure if he can change the landscape of that team as far as the visibility is there. Everyone knows who you are. But in order to bring those students in that you need, you already know what they're waiting on.

Oh, Joe, you got to understand. A lot of those guys that go to Stanford, they try to be doctors. They try to be lawyers. They try to be businessmen. If I happen to go to the NFL, that's fine and good, too. Fine with me. Right. But I'm trying to be a finance major

an econ, I'm trying to be an econ, bro, I mean come on bro, do you understand look, you go to Stanford, you go to schools like, bro, what you think of Georgia Tech? Yeah Do you know what the admissions are to get into a place like that?

Oh yeah, most definitely Every once in a while you'll get a John Elway, every once in a while you'll You know what the missions are to get into a place like that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Listen, I— Every once in a while, you'll get a John Elway. Every once in a while, you'll get a Christian McCaffrey. Or you'll get a—I think John Lynch went to Stanford. Hell, you'll get Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck.

Right. But you're talking about 50 years, and I named four players. Right. Yeah, you're right. So, you—every once—think about it. Think about John graduating in 83.

Think about before you got another Andrew Luck. How long was that? Long time. And then you got a Christian McCaffrey. Mm-hmm.

Bro. Yeah. And you, hey, them guys ain't getting no general studies degree. John was a finance major. Mm-hmm. He was a finance major.

He was either finance or econ. Econ, economics. He don't agree with it yet, don't you? Hey, I got me a degree in eligibility. I'm trying to stay eligible. I'm trying to stay in place. Hey, it's hard to go to school with the academia like that yeah yeah that's what that's

a note note bro you're going to know the name mojo we know that the standard the standard is different on the standard is so it's almost as if academic come first it It does. Like Stanford, like the game amongst others, you know, it's understandable because their biggest alums are not athletes. Nah, there are your Larry Ellison's. There are your, there are your,

uh, what's the guy? Uh, your Zuckerberg, not saying they went there, but I'm saying they're guys like that. Those are their, their famous alums.

They went and pulled us surprises. They went Nobel peace prizes in econ and mathematics. they went there, but I'm saying they're guys like that. Their famous alums, they win Pulitzer Prizes. They win Nobel Peace Prizes in econ and mathematics. Right, right, right. So their biggest alumni, like a lot of other schools, maybe their biggest alumni are athletes. And there's nothing wrong with that. But I'm saying

when you go to places like Georgia Tech and you go to places like Stanford and you go to Cal Berkeley, you do realize why you're here, right? Yeah. Let's, let's, let's not lose sight of it.

We got it. Hey, what do they always say, Ocho, you hear a lot of athletes say, just keep the main thing, the main thing. When you go to a school like that,

the main thing is the main thing. The main thing, yeah. Most definitely. It's not, it's not a stepping, it's not a stepping stone to the NFL. Now, if I happen to make it based on the work that I put in here. Yes.

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Hey. Okay. I like hey okay i like it i like it i like it but can i tell you something real quick about this yeah can i tell you something let's do real quick and for y'all in the chat too listen to me real quick even with the schemes and the stuff that's on the backboard no matter who they they playing, when that whistle blow, you got to be able to stop it. I don't care what you know. Can you stop it when it's time to? You watch film every week. What week are we in the NFL? We in week what?

13 or 14? Yeah, 13, 14, something like that. There's 13 weeks of schemes and films of that goddamn Detroit Lions offense. Yeah. Ain't nobody been able to stop it yet. Okay. They had one loss. Ain't nobody been able to stop it yet. Okay, they had one loss. Ain't nobody been able to stop it yet. 52 points, 52 points, 24 points.

I think they just scored 26, if I'm not mistaken. I'm just running off at the top of the head. 23, they beat Thanksgiving. I think they beat Chicago 23-20. Oh, it was 23. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I understand. He probably didn't mean to do what he did and post it.

Oh, Joe. Well, you know what? Let me say. Let me. Because I can know how accidents happen. That's an accident. You know what that is. You know what it is.

You don't want nothing like that out there. It's like your playbook. Leaving your playbook in the hotel. You don't want to put your playbook in the hotel. Oh, Joe. Y'all was allowed to take your phones in the meeting room? Your phone? No.

I don't take no hands. I don't take no phone. Even if I could, I'm going to take my phone your phones in the meeting room? Your phone? No, I don't take no hands. I don't know what I'm saying. Even if I could, I'm going to take my phone not in the meeting room. No. We couldn't have no phone. The phones had to stay in the lockers. Right. Well, time's different now.

You know that. Okay. You're right. You're right. My bad. There was a reason. There was a reason for him taking the picture. I'm not sure what happened.

But listen, that stuff on the backboard, that ain't going to help you beat the Lions. That ain't going to help you. I'm just telling you, Naka, when that whistle blow, it's a different ballgame. It's a different ballgame. I'm going to say what happened to us. Well, in the divisional guy of the playoff, we had Tennessee Titans, and they somehow got a hold of our playbook. And that damn show helped them because we couldn't do jack.

We ran two plays. We ran, we ran, we hit them up one time. They busted the coverage and I went 57 yards down to the one and Jamal ran it in we blocked the field goal and Ray ran a kickback

other than that we couldn't do nothing so it definitely helped yeah I'm not saying it definitely helps there's a there's a reason why

there's a reason why the Spygate now all of a sudden the defensive guy got he got a signal he got a signal in it. He got a microphone in his helmet. It's like the quarterback.

People don't do things that don't work, Ocho. Yeah. I hear you. The last time somebody robbed a place that didn't have money or didn't have something of value. People ain't robbing Goodwills salvation armies in soup kitchens ocho they go and stuff of value yeah just be smart son in a situation like that ocho you know everything everything inside that building is sacred right i mean i don't even did y'all i i don't even know what you're going to allow ocho i don't even, did y'all, I don't even, Ocho, I ain't gonna lie, Ocho.

I don't even remember taking a picture inside the locker room. Let alone, let alone taking a picture of the board and stuff that's on the board. Yeah, I've never taken a picture, I've never taken a picture

inside the meeting rooms in general, but I got a shitload of pictures in the locker room itself. And I got a lot of them. I got a whole lot of them, you know. My teammates, you know,

to be able to look back on some of the things like that. I'm trying to think,. I got a whole lot of them, you know. My teammates, you know, to be able to look back on some of the things like that. I'm trying to think, did we? Now, they might have, now. Y'all ain't even had a camera on. Wait, time out, time out, time out. I don't even know. We had the camera phone. Might have even been out by then. I was just finna say, y'all ain't had no camera phone when you was playing in the 70s?

Come on, now. We did, don't you? I was about to say, I'm trying to think, I'm like, did we have camera phones in the 90s? Y'all ain't had no camera phone back then? Hell no. Man, I, don't you? I was about to say, I'm trying to think, I'm like, we have caraphones in the back? Yeah, y'all didn't have no caraphones back then? Hell no. Man, I, don't you, I remember, I remember the first time, I didn't even know anything about text messaging. Right.

So I was like, it was Cordell Stewart that in 2005, like, you could text. I was like, but bro, how you text somebody? Right, right. Bro, I ain't done nobody no damn text. I was like, well, bro, how you text somebody? Right, right. Bro, I ain't done nobody no damn text. Call me. So how y'all used to communicate with your chicks back in the day?

Pay phone? Call them. Call them. On the pay phone? Well, I mean, we had a community phone in the hall. So we had, like, four phones that if you press nine, you could call out. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

You press nine and dial the number? Dial the number, yes. Yes. But it had to be local. Right. And the way they communicated with you, they would call and it went to a central location. And so they'd like, I'd like to leave a message for Shannon Sharp. My name is such and such. Here's the number. Have me give me a call. And then

they would come downstairs and put it in your box. We had mailboxes. So everybody had an individual box that you put. And so you have a bunch of, you have notes in there and so forth and so on like that. It wasn't like it is.

I don't know how they do it. Now, don't start me to lie now, Ocho. I don't know how they do it now. Like I said, I've been going away from the game damn near two decades. Damn near. It has been two decades.

So I don't know what the, but I guess now you wouldn't need to call. Everybody has a phone. Everybody didn't have cell phones when I was in the league. Everybody had no cell phones. That came towards the end of it. But in the mid-90s, man, them calls were like $4, $5 a minute. You had a beeper?

No, I didn't have no beeper. You didn't have no beeper? Mm-mm. Damn. I wasn't that important, though, Joe. I wasn't that important, Ocho. I wasn't that important. But like I said, I know meetings, cell phones weren't allowed in the meetings. Not when I was there, Ocho.

Once I left, I retired in 04. So whatever they did after that, I don't know anything about it. So I don't want to speak for something that transpired 04, 05, 06 moving forward. But I'm saying from the time I was there, moving back, there was no cell phones in the meeting room. So that was, man, Mike would have lost his damn mind. Yeah, absolutely. What?

During those days, the coaches were different. They were a little bit more, like, I call it Tom. They were like Tom Cawthon-ish. Yes. That's the only thing I can think of. Very Bill Paul-ish, you know. Hey, no nonsense. Barry.

Kirk Cousins, excuse me, future with the Falcons rides on the next six games per German father. If he doesn't deliver over the next stretch, the Falcons would explore trading him this offseason, given that they have rookie Michael Pennings Jr they're like some team would be like why we want this contract

why we got a guy I don't know about that I don't know about that it's one thing about Kirk Cousins he has always been afforded that grace for only having one playoff win. So they're going to take that contract on. They're going to definitely take it on.

And depending on how—and he's right. Mr. Fowler's right as far as these last five games. And I think even if he does play well these last five games, I think they're ready to move on with Penning Jr. anyway. Yeah. Honestly. It's time to get that train rolling. It's time to get that train rolling, most definitely.

I'm excited for him. I'm excited for him. I'm excited to see what he can do with Drake London and Kyle Pitts and B. John Robinson. And there's no need for him to sit behind Kirk Cousins for a second year. I think it'll be great because here's the thing, Ojo, let's just say if Kirk goes somewhere, do you take Kirk Cousins and then take the rookie quarterback? I would

if Kirk goes somewhere do you take Kirk Cousins and then take the rookie quarterback and then have him sit behind him a year and then move it on

I don't I don't like Kirk outside in the cold do you like him in New York I don't wait what's New York

I know you're talking about the Giants yeah it's all the Giants do you like him there and have Shador sit behind him for a year? Yeah, but with his arm, with that Achilles, with that cold, with those conditions, you kind of need to arm the court cut through that. Right.

Or have a sense or understanding. Now you just put a little nugget in my head now. You understand what Kirk Cousins can do from the quarterback position, right? When he has a star receiver. Can you imagine Kirk Cousins throwing the goddamn league neighbors? Yeah. The accuracy, the pretty balls.

Kirk Cousins throws a catchable ball and will always put it right where it needs to be. He might not have the strongest arm. He might not have the strongest arm, but it's going to get where it needs to be. He might not have the strongest arm. He might not have the strongest arm, but it's going to get where it needs to be every time.

And he's accurate too, huh? You got to protect him though, Ochoa. Yeah, that too. You want to put him behind that Giants offensive line? Man, listen, man.

Get that ball out of his hands fast, man. That's not what he does. Get that ball out of his hands fast. Hey, look at Kirk Cousins in the regular season. Look at the receivers

he's had. Look at the receivers he's had and what those receivers have been able to do with Kirk Cousins at the helm. I like it for Malik Nabors until Shador takes the reins over because he's going to the Giants. He's going to the Giants unless the goddamn Raiders, for some godforsaken reason, are able to climb all the way from wherever they're picking at and come snatch him up. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Hey, I don't know.

Prime might not be too keen on that. I'm just saying. Yeah, I know. I know. I believe it at that because they're already going to be like, Shanna Sharpe saying,

because you already know where they're headed with that. So disregard. Objection. I object to what Shanna said. Ahead of tomorrow's showdown, the San Francisco 49ers, the Bills are asking for fans to sign up to help shovel snow out of Highmark Stadium. The deal is pretty simple. The Bills will pay for fans to sign up to help shovel snow out of Highmark Stadium.

The deal is pretty simple. The Bills will pay $20 an hour, provide food, hot beverage, and shovels to those who sign up. Lake Effect Snow Buffalo is expected to burn western New York beginning Saturday with two feet predicted to fall in Orchard Park, where the Bills' stadium is located by kickoff. Ocho, one thing about them, and them Jokers be signed up too. They love their business. They don't play. Yeah.

The fans love it. The fans love it. I think the only thing they got up there, the Sabres. I think Buffalo Sabres, they play hockey. I think that's still up there. But, boy, they love it. Look here. They love their football team, Ocho.

I'd be out there too. If I lived in Buffalo, if I was a Buffalo fan, have you seen the way they before the game even starts? Oh, yeah. Have you seen what they do in the end? I played there 90, 90, 91, 92, 93,

97. I played there like seven or eight times. I don't know what night I think about it, Ocho. I'm trying to figure out why we had to play so damn many games there. Because we played there 90, 91, 94, 97. But we played Buffalo. We played Buffalo a lot, too. Damn.

Right. Now that I think about it. And we played them in the preseason one year. But, Ocho, they fans, they love their bills. Good God almighty. Do they?

Do they? Listen, their fan base that don't get the credit they deserve. They don't. How much do they love their fan base? They love, they listen. They get active.

They get active. That's the only word I can think of it. They get active. Pre-game, during game, and after game. They out. They out. Oh, man. They love their bills.

Man. And don't let them make a play. And then you'll start, let's go, Buffalo. Let's go, Buffalo. A little bit softer now. A little bit softer now. A little bit softer. And they start, boy, that's it.

Boy, Rich Stadium, that thing used to be going crazy. Yeah, that thing be jumping. Boy, they have 80,000 up in there, and them fans going crazy. And you know, Ocho, we played them. That's the years they go to back-to-back-to-back-to-back Super Bowls. They got Thurman. They got Jim. They got Andre Reid andre reed they lost it yes but they cook it they're gonna have that stadium cleaned out for that game sunday i guarantee you

that and you notice anytime something happens, hey, who that knocked somebody out of the playoff and they donated money to that person's charity? Somebody get nicked. Somebody get hurt. They donate to that person's foundation. Always. Bill's fans are the classiest. The classy of them all.

Classiest. Ocho, the classiest of them all. Classiest. Oh, Joe. Josh Allen's next touchdown will make Buffalo Bills history. With his next touchdown, rushing or passing, Allen will become the Bills' all-time leader in touchdown,

surpassing the great Jim Kelly. Allen has been the best quarterback in December since 2020. In that span, he's first in total touchdowns, passing touchdowns, and wins. Look, I hate it because the Broncos could have had him. The Broncos should have drafted him. And if I'm not mistaken, they drafted Bradley Chubb to pair with Vaughn Miller. Two outside linebackers. You can with Vaughn Miller. Mm-hmm.

Two outside linebackers. You can keep Vaughn and get a quarterback. Yeah. You got to have that guy. Mm-hmm. You got to have him. I don't care how many

great your defense is. You better have a quarterback. Mm-hmm. You think maybe they didn't like what they saw? Coming out of Wyoming, right? No.

Am I wrong? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I think small sample size too, if I'm not mistaken. Huh? Yeah.

You know, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes scouts miss. Sometimes you overthink it. Don't you? Mm. Hmm.

I mean, you took, you took Ross Osweiler, you take a Paxton Lynch, you taking guys like that. Mm. Hmm. Guys that are not, even if you justiler, you take Paxton Lynch, you're taking guys like that. Guys that are not

even if you just say, you know what, he's not the most accurate, his ability to run the football. That's what makes him, you're talking about a man that's 250 pounds that can run like he can run. As a matter of fact, whatever discrepancies you might have with his game, especially

from a throwing standpoint, we could work on that. Yes. We could work on that. And he has the arm. Look at the foundation you have to work with and build with. That's all I'm saying. You can take it from there. Take it from there.

Look how he's turned out in Buffalo. He has the arm because in order to play an upstate Buffalo, you got to have an arm. Because guess what? The Jets, they play outside. New England, you play outside. So you put them in Denver. You're outside. Kansas City is outside.

You really need arm because a lot of the teams that you're going to potentially face, Kansas City outside, Baltimore outside, the Steelers, outside. Buffalo, outside. So your quarterback is going to have to be able to deal with the elements because those are such stadiums.

Not only does it get cold, the wind blows. So you might have, Ocho, you might have snow, gust, and bone-cr crunching, crunching cold. Oh, yeah. I'm talking about 10 below, 15 below, with gust up to 20, 30 miles an hour. I sure wish we'd have drafted him, but we're not going to get him now because Buffalo ain't letting him go. Nah, absolutely.

But I like old Bo. We got old Bo. Yeah, Bo playing well. Bo playing real well. Very well for a rookie. I'm not sure if it's Bo Nix. I don't know. I'm not sure.

It's the quarterback whisperer in Sean Payton. But somebody doing something right over there. I'm going to give me some Bo, buddy. Hold Bo. Hold Bo, Bo, Bo. Yeah, you know they got to play the Bengals, right? I'm going to give me some Bo Buddy. Ho-bo. Ho-bo-bo-bo. Yeah, you know they got to play the Bengals, right? Don't you worry about that. Don't you got Princeton Friday tomorrow?

Who y'all play tomorrow? Who? The Bengals. Then who do we play? Oh, we play the Steelers. We finna win that game. Oh, yeah, that's it. We play the Steelers.

We play the Steelers. Can y'all see that, that's L. We play the Steelers. We play the Steelers. Can y'all see that chat? L. We play the Steelers. You won't bet now. L, L. You won't bet now. Ocho, you owe me so much money now, man.

Damn. Hold on. Listen, listen. Whatever I owe you, I'm going to pay you when we get to the tour in February at Super Bowl at the live tour I'm going to pay you live on stage whatever I owe you

why can't I get my money now why can't I get my money now I got to collect it first who you going to collect it from for all these god damn jobs I got to collect it first. Who you going to collect it from? For all these goddamn jobs I got. You know what? I'm going to tell inside the NFL. I'm going to tell Apple. I'm going to tell everybody.

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