Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Payton’s Revenge, Davante joins Rodgers, Amari Cooper to Bills

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bo Nix and the Broncos handling the injury ridden Saints in Denver HC Sean Payton’s return to New Orleans on Thursday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho are fired up about Davante Adams reuniting with Aaron Rodgers in New York, Cleveland Browns WR Amari Cooper being traded to the Buffalo Bills and giving Josh Allen another target and much more!03:18 - Show starts03:48 - Intro05:30 - Broncos v Saints13:00 - Davonte Adams traded to Jets25:46 - Amari Cooper traded to Bills34:32 - Money Moves01:02:00 - Tyreke says he’s best WR in NFL01:03:47 - Crosby might be on the move(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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fashion oh joe the broncos blew out the injury depleted saints 33 10 on thursday night football bo nicks hold on let me get the box score. Bo Nix played really, really well tonight. He was 16 of 26, 164 yards. A clean game. Offensive line did a great job of protecting the mojo. No sacks, no turnovers. They ran the ball 35 times for 225 yards. Javante Williams had 14 rushes, 88 yards, and two touchdowns, as they completely take apart the New Orleans Saints.

I mentioned they are injury depleted. Spencer Rattler was 23-35, 172. No touchdowns, no interception, but he was sacked. He was sacked six times, but he was harassed all night long. Ocho. I mean, I'm trying to figure out how he got. So, you

know what? The Saints have been bad. What happened was, listen, let me say this. We watched them take apart the Dallas Cowboys. Okay. And so we overestimated how good they were. Right. But when you look at what has transpired, they won their first two games and haven't really come close with the exception of Atlanta winning a game since.

Ocho. And I don't know with the exception of Atlanta winning a game since. Ocho. And I don't know with the injuries starting to pile up. I don't know if and when it's going to get better. Listen, I don't think it's going to get any better, any better anytime soon. Listen, it's too many injuries. Your best two receivers are out. Derek Carr is out. The first two games of the season, you put up 45 points in both of those games.

You're going 0-5 since then. It's not going to get any better anytime soon. I feel bad. Latimer left his game, Ocho. Latimer left his game with injury also. He missed week two. He missed week two because of his hamstring injury. Now he's re-injured it.

So some of the key quality players that you do need to even compete at the highest level, because I know they always say it's next man up, but they're the next man for a reason. Next man for a reason. The Saints have only put up... Yeah, you got that

right. The Saints have only put up 15 points the past five games. After scoring 45 in the first two and that's simply due to obviously you said it and I think that's I'm not saying the Broncos won because of the Saints injuries but it played a big part the Saints are not at full strength therefore listen the scoreline looked the way it did Bo Nix Bo Nix is good that goddamn Javante Williams well he can tote that field boy he can he can tote that field I would like to see if the the Broncos are playing a better team I would like to see them get the passing game going a little

bit more Courtland Sutton they got to get him involved yeah they got to get they got to get him involved he's making he's making too much money to be out there getting cardio in. He's making too much money to be out there getting cardio in. That's all it was the night before. He didn't have a catch. Yeah. Yeah, that shouldn't happen. That shouldn't happen.

I'm sure he's frustrated. I know they won the game. But one of the things they do, they use it against you. If you don't have the production and you make a lot of money like he's doing, they use that against you in the offseason. But other than that, the Broncos look good. I mean, wait,

they got a tough game next, don't they, Unc? Right? Who do the Broncos play next, Ash? I'm not sure, Ocho. I could have swore. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think they got a tough one coming up. They got, no, they got the Panthers. Oh, well, listen, that's another win. That's another win.

You know, I like Bo Nix, too. I like Bo Nix. Bo Nix got moxie. I don't even know what moxie mean. I just heard Mel Kiper use it during the goddamn draft. He real feisty. Remember how Baker Mayfield was at Oklahoma? Yeah.

For some reason, I don't know why Bo Nix just gives me that. He just gives me that firecracker type, like a firecracker. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to put it in the right words. But I like Bo Nix. I like him. I like him. Yeah, he's got some athleticism.

He can run. Need to work on his accuracy. Yeah. But you can do a lot of things with him, Mocho. They got the Panthers next, and then they got Ravens and Chiefs. Okay, that's the two. They're probably going to win this one. And that momentum, that momentum, hopefully, you know, they have a great defense.

I'm assuming maybe Pat Sertain to be back by then and now the concussion protocol. But listen, if they can win this next one against the Panthers, but they probably will. I'm curious to see

how Bo Nix plays against. Now we talk about two defenses that are much better. Yeah, that are much better. And you're going to get also much better. Yeah.

Huh? As in offenses that are much better. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. And offenses that are much better. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely, most definitely. So we're going to see if you're playing from ahead or if you have to play from behind. Either way it goes, it's going to be a good one. And it's going to be a good test for both, too.

It's going to be a real good test for both. Yeah. I mean, considering how poorly they played Sunday against the Chargers, they didn't play particularly well considering they had won three straight. And they were playing really well. So I was surprised that they didn't play as well as I thought they would on Sunday against the Chargers. And the Chargers had been struggling.

That is a division game. So, you know, you kind of toss a lot out of the window when you play a division opponent because you're very familiar. Even though they have a new coaching staff, that's still someone in your division. A lot of the key players are still there especially offense we talk about justin herbert and a couple of the big a couple of the receivers although keenan allen is gone mike williams is gone they still have some guys that played uh heavy uh had played a lot of a lot of snaps last year for him especially at the skill position offensive line

is pretty much intact yeah uh they signed alt uh they drafted alt i don't know if he's playing i think he got dean uh but defensively uh they still got some play they got some players over there on the defense side of football that's what's most surprising when you talk about the charges is that they're not better consider the defensive talent that they have on that side of the football but the broncos go on the road on a very short week it's never easy playing on the road but when you cut the days down by three so instead of playing on a sunday afternoon you're playing on a thursday night and you just played for a sunday afternoon right ain't a whole lot of time oh joe yeah ain't a whole lot ain't a whole lot of own field practice it's a lot of

film study it's a lot of walkthrough walkthrough a lot of film study. It's a lot of walkthrough. A lot of basic stuff. Hey, let's try to get, let's try to put this thing together and get out of here with minimal injuries because you know you sore. Unless you're like in your first or second year, anybody that's five years or beyond, oh,

you hurting. Yeah, you feeling it. Oh, you feeling it. You are definitely feeling it. Absolutely. But the Broncos go to 4-3. The Saints, who started out 2-0, drops to 2-5. Ocho, now it's time. We're going to jump right into it real quick.

It's time for News Cap. News Cap. News Cap. All right, Ocho, after being acquired by the New York Jets. I mean, we like it, but damn. Let's not get carried away. After being acquired by the New York Jets from the Las Vegas Raiders earlier this week Devontae Adams

is eyeing a long term partnership with the new team when asked if he'd like a multi-year relationship with the Jets I hope so that's the plan I never go somewhere in hopes of having to find a new home while Rodgers has been effective throwing the ball to Gary Wilson and Alex Zard over the last couple of games the have been in has been effective throwing the ball to gary wilson

alizar over the last couple of games the outside spots which has been a huge problem rogers and mike williams have not been on the same page in 2024 the jets offense have suffered they average 304 yards per game 18.8 points but a little less than 19 points a game both ranked 22nd ocho are you expecting old magic from Rodgers and Adams? Goddamn right I'm expecting old magic because there's something you can't teach. There's something you can't teach that Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams have. That's almost seven to eight years worth of work.

76-something, I think maybe 67, some TV, maybe 76 TVs, 8,000 yards together, 117 games together. And the chemistry that they have a look, I can look at you and I know where you're going to be at. I know everything you're going to do. Aaron Rogers can be blindfolded and whatever the route is, he can throw it to a spot.

No, Devante Adams is going to be there every time he's made with the system that they're running. So all he's doing is just, it's just, he's going to a spot and know Devontae Adams is going to be there every time. He's familiar with the system that they're running. So all he's doing is just going to a new team. He's with the Jets. And you just plug him in and you just go. I know it sounds simple the way I'm saying, but when you have a quarterback that you've played with for so long

and you still, as a receiver, are very adequate at doing what you do, as far as getting open and running routes. He's still one of the best despite the lack of production because the inconsistent play at quarterback there's nothing wrong with him. I guarantee you they both pick up where they left off at. I think the thing is Ocho is that

they're very familiar with each other. It always helps. This is the system that he ran in Green Bay. Same thing. Yes, sir. And the plays are familiar. Roger's voice in his ear is familiar. So, yeah, I think they should pick up where they kind of left off years ago.

Yeah. At least I hope so. I'm excited. Because, you know, look, they had to say um Devontae wasn't the same receiver last year not factoring in not factoring in right that he lost Derek Carr Aiden O'Connell and whomever the other quarterbacks were that's not Derek that's not Derek Carr right and so no matter what you think yeah Derek Carr is not uh um he's not Joe Burrow he's not uh Patrick Mahone right right he's not one of these top like quarterbacks but he's better Joe Burrow. He's not Patrick Mahone.

He's not one of these top-flight quarterbacks. But he's better than Aiden Okama. In his first year with Devontae, Devontae had 1,500 yards and was the first team all-pro. There's something to be said for that. And there's one thing that I hate that the

pundits do, the analysts, those that should know the game. And they always talk about certain players losing a step or they don't have it anymore. When you don't factor in that, for one, the inconsistent play at quarterback affects that. The opportunities that you normally get when they're putting up those those numbers, those good numbers. There's a reason why you're not doing so. And they never factored in. The first thing they say is oh the player's losing a step when you know that's not the case instead of saying exactly what

it is well i'm glad you brought it up because we know there's nothing wrong with him now you'll know when a player loses a step uh by watching him i'm curious to see how teams are going to play the jets now they play the steelers so it's going to be a very very interesting matchup joey porter jr is he going to take gar take Garrett Wilson or are they going to put the number one on Devontae Adams? So I'm not sure how it's going to play out. So for his first game back with Aaron Rodgers, this is a good game, a good test for them because they're playing a very good defense in the Steelers. So I'm excited. I'm excited. I think they're going to pick up right where they left off at.

There's a certain chemistry when you play with somebody so long that you just can't replicate. And I know, I just know they're going to take some of the things they did in Green Bay, add it to that offense, and they're just going to go to work. Yeah. But let's be real, though. Aaron Rodgers hadn't played well this year, Ocho. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I meangers hadn't played well this year, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. I understand what he was in Green Bay, but we haven't seen that yet with the Jets.

It's going to be very interesting to see if he can get back. Now, do I expect him to be what he was in those MVP seasons? I don't know, Ocho. I mean, he's coming off an Achilles and he's 40 years old. Yeah, but also, when you have a weapon

like that, you can count on every goddamn time. If you've been watching the Jets games, I've been watching the Jets games. Maybe you got a young bull like 17, man, that can actually get open like that. I really think even post pre-Achilles injury,

he was always counting on boys to be open. That's the reason he was able to win that MVP because he was able to get the ball to them, he was able to facilitate, and they were always open. He knew where everybody was going to be. They were always in the right spot. There would be no mistakes like you saw the other night

where he threw the ball to Mike Williams and Mike Williams wasn't on the red line. I don't like that. What's for it? Oh, Joe, you got to eat that one. Oh, the quarterback. You got to eat that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What you say is there's a little miscommunication. Yeah. You don't, now we get behind closed doors. It's like, hey, you know I'm expecting you to be X, Y, right here. Right, right. Yeah, he released his side, but he never got back out. If they plan to and you got the goal ball, if

you're going to release it outside, get back out there to the red line so the quarterback got somewhere to go with it. I mean, how many times you think during the course of the game a receiver runs the wrong route, the quarterback has the wrong read, and we don't know about it because they don't discuss it. And then once we get behind closed doors,

that's what we do. That's why Carson's like, hey, Ochoa, don't show me up. I never forget. John was the same way. Troy was the same way. Peyton Manning, you heard Peyton Manning. Quarterbacks are hey, you understand.

Hey, they control the food on the table. Yeah, almost definitely. They'll control whether you get to eat a lot or a little. Now, how much you want to eat? Yeah. Oh, I'm okay. You better be careful.

Better be careful. You absolutely better be careful. I'm glad you just said that. Let me tell you how, how I want chat, chat those you to, to look at, look at my stats when you get the chance,

look at my stats. I don't remember what year this was, but I was kind of disgruntled. I was kind of disgruntled and I don't think I asked for a trade. It might've been drew. It just, I would kind of got sick of the media

blaming me for the reason we were losing. So they were putting everything on me because obviously I was the one doing all, having all the fun and whatever. So they started to turn on me a little bit, our own media in Cincinnati. And I said, you know what? Well, hey, I want to trade. I want out. Something like that. And I remember the Reds, excuse me, the commanders at that time and Dan Snyder, they offered the Bengals a one for one.

And Mike Brown said, no. Mike Brown said, no, we're not going to set a precedent that a player can come in and say okay he's not happy and say oh you know what I want I want out. Nah it ain't happening so they turned that down right I'm just coming off a really good season

despite me being disgruntled I don't know what they did offensively or how they weren't able to get me the ball that particular year. All of a sudden, I had about 500 yards. In Cincinnati? The whole season. Was that your last year?

Was that the last year? No, no, no. It's like I was coming off maybe a 1,213-yard season. And then, you know, I was getting the media was on my ass about us losing. There was nothing. I was healthy. I media was on my ass about us losing. There was nothing. I was healthy. I was completely healthy. I swear for God, if you look at my stats, you look at it,

it's thousands, thousands, thousands, thousands, thousands, and all of a sudden it's a 500-yard season. I don't know if they found a way, like, to work me out the offense. I really had 500 yards the whole season. And then the next season, I'm right back to 1,200. Right. Like, in a sense, it was like, damn, are they that powerful where, you know what? Oh, you want to play with us?

Okay, we're going to play with you. The whole season. And I was scared to say anything because I already caused ruckus and made noise in the offseason. So I'm definitely not going to do it in season because I'm already on thin ice in a sense. And I'm like, but damn, they're not even I'm not even part of the offense. That's what it felt like. And I was still I was still that boy.

I didn't know what the hell was going on. So I just had to throw that story out there based on what you were just talking about. The problem that they have is that can they protect? Now you see Buffalo had relentless pressures on Rodgers.

Oh, yeah. What do you think the Steelers are going to be able to with T.J. Watt? T.J. Watt. And Hebron. Mm-hmm. What are they going to do?

They better chip. Got to have a game plan because is the brother Tyron Smith on the left side? Woo! Hey, listen, no disrespect.

No disrespect to him. But obviously, I don't think he's going to have to go against T.J. Walker. T.J. Walker, most of the time, he's on the left side. So he'd be dealing with the right tackle. But that young boy, I don't know who it was he was struggling with, but he looked like his feet in semen out there. And Vanessa. Hey.

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credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our I mean, I think the Jets were expecting to get the old Tyron Smith. Right. They just got an old Tyron Smith. Because he doesn't move. He doesn't move. His feet, the kick, the slide, the punch. The hands have gotten lazy. And it's hard.

He can kick, but the footwork ain't what it once was. He don't cover as much ground with the kick. He's gotten really lazy with his hands. You see a lot of guys just wax on, wax off, and they go. They buy it.

They never used to beat Tyron Smith with that move. No. He was so strong at the point of attack. Once he put that hand and gets you in your chest, boy, you ain't going nowhere. Yep. Yeah, you know, I be watching. I be watching all for the tackle play.

I know. Yeah. But, you know, he done got real lazy with his hands. And you can't be lazy at that position. Them guys are too good. Listen, your hands and your feet got to be in unison. Well, they're tied together. Yeah, got to be in unison. It's like art.

So, we'll see how this, guess what? We'll get an opportunity to see how it plays out on Sunday. So, we don't have to wait long. We'll see on Sunday. Amari Cooper was also traded the same day he was traded to the buffalo bills nobody in the field is getting bigger a bigger glow up than amari he leaves

he left the cleveland situation yeah and his quarterback is one of the worst um we just call it like we see it here at nightcap he's hey he left one of the worst is he one of the worst is he 32 in every category statistically as a quarterback? I'm just curious. Well, put it like this. I don't know if he's in the 20s in anything. Right. I ain't saying he's 32, but he's 30 or below. It's bad, huh?

Yeah, in some of the stuff, he might be 35, 36 because they got some backups that filled in. That's how high he is, Ocho. To be honest with you, that he has the worst QBR. Yeah. One of the worst completion opportunities, too, right?

Damn. Khalil Shakur and Keon Coleman have been incredible for Buffalo, but Curtis Samuel signing hasn't really worked out. Samuel is really a slot receiver. I think they're playing him out of position. He needs to be in the slot.

Coleman's going to have to do a better job of separating right now. Right now, he's not sudden enough. You got to be sudden to be outside. They don't play out there. You know what? Even if he's not sudden, which that might not be a part of his DNA, you got to be able to learn how to use your body. Learn how to put yourself in positions, having a lot of contested catches. Listen, Larry Fitzgerald wasn't sudden. He wasn't sudden at all.

But he caught every goddamn thing and he was able to put his body in position to make any and every catch no matter what. And he ain't drop shit. Nothing. He had tremendous hands. Tremendous. I mean, once he learns that, he gonna be alright. I mean, it's rookie year. As Fitz started to get old, man,

Fitz wasn't in the gym. Fitz wasn't training like a lot what we see these guys train now. And so Fitz probably could have squeezed out another year had he been a workout warrior. in the gym. Fitz wasn't training like a lot of what we see these guys train now. Yes, sir. And so Fitz probably could have squeezed out another year had he been a workout warrior. Right.

But he got the vibe with, like you said, he was a big body guy. He had tremendous body control. He had exceptional, not good, not great. He had exceptional hands. Yes, sir.

If that ball was in his vicinity, it came down with it. Contested or not. Didn't matter. It did not matter. And so I like this trade for the Bills and Josh Allen. He feels he steps in immediately. He's the number one receiver.

He's been on the big stage before. Yeah. You know, he came from a big time program at Alabama. Had success. He put a big number. People don't realize it. They're like, oh, he traded him. Gruden traded him. But if you look at the numbers, look at his numbers. He was a Pro Bowl player at the Raiders.

Oh, yeah. He went to the Pro Bowl with the Cowboys. He went to the Pro Bowl with the Browns. Yes, people in the chat, I need y'all to understand. I need you to understand and remember where Mark Cooper is from. That's a Dane County legend. He's a route running extraordinaire as well. Again, even Josh Allen, another target where he doesn't have to be Superman.

Put him in position. Tell him to get open and he's going to get open every single time ain't nothing wrong with him I know people are probably looking at him based on the numbers that he's put up at Cleveland and saying well he ain't got it no more the devil is a lie the devil is a lie

and if you sleep he'll run right by your ass too oh yeah he sneaky what? do you like to move Ocho them giving up a third round pick for Amari? Oh yeah, most definitely. Let me finish this. Basically, he's on the last year of his

contract. So this could be a rental situation. But if the Bills are going to go where they think, it'll be worth it. Oh yeah, most definitely. It's definitely worth it uh listen to some of the some of the pundits again today some of the analysts saying now that they have gotten amari cooper uh talking about how far the the bills can probably go due to his addition

when you think about think about amari cooper i think about well hell we y'all just have stefan diggs as well for the past four years. For the past four years. Now, I mean, two different types of receivers, but still very, very good in a statistical standpoint, and both can get open, you know. So, I mean, hell, I think it all comes down to Josh Allen and him being consistent and not turning the ball over

in those important games, in those moments, in those moments where it counts. Has he grown to not make those moments in those moments where it counts has he grown to not make those mistakes in pivotal games where it counts like the AFC championship in the divisional round of the playoffs they can get it done

he's gone what three four games and hadn't turned the ball over and yeah yeah that's a long streak for him yeah magnificent and if he can continue all over? Yeah. That's a long streak for him. Magnificent. And if he can continue that, but that just goes to show you. You know, Jerry Jones, he's a damn good GM. Now, he traded

Amari. He traded a first rounder to get Amari. He traded to Cleveland for a fifth rounder. Cleveland traded to Buffalo for a third rounder. Yeah. He don't know what he... Well, I'm not going to say he don't know what he's doing. Hey, Jerry, you selling your money, bro.

You selling 50s for 10s. You gave up a first to get it. You traded him for a fifth. Three years later, a team gave up a third to get it. Now, what am I missing to this? You gave up a first. You got a fifth to return.

The team that you traded him to for the fifth got a third and you wonder why somebody asking me questions I'm going to get somebody here to ask me some better questions yeah and what radio station is that 105.3 I think

they need to hire me I come in and let me ask Jared the questions and all these people talk about need to hire me. I come in and let me ask Jerry the questions. And all these people talk about Jerry doesn't have the authority. If I'm not mistaken, that's the flagship station of the Cowboys, correct? So guess what? There's another station. Jerry says, you know what, guys? If y'all

don't get rid of him, I'm going to take the Cowboys and another station is going to be the flagship station. You see how that works? So all y'all talking about Jerry don't have the authority, y'all don't know how this business works. There's a lot of behind the scenes that guys on their personalities

might have said something, and them owners catch wind of it, and all of a sudden you don't see them on the network no more. So don't play. Y'all know Jerry has that kind of authority. Jerry tried to take down Roger Goodale. If that man would try to take down Roger Goodale, you don't play y'all know Jerry has that kind of authority yeah Jerry tried Jerry tried to take down Roger Goodell if that man would try to take down Roger Goodell you don't think he can take a damn a damn radio personality you remember that damn right I remember

oh man do you remember Jerry funny man but I'll let y'all see a lot of people Oh, man. Yeah, I remember it. Jerry's funny, man. But I'll let y'all see a lot of people. I ain't one. See, a lot of people get fooled by, you know, Jerry, you know, Jerry's made a lot of black men millionaires. Those men could do something for Jerry. Don't let Jerry fool you. Because he don't fool Shannon. He showed you who he was.

Yeah. Jerry showed you. He showed you a lot of who he was in 2016. Oh, Shannon. He showed you who he was. Jerry showed you. He showed you a lot of who he was in 2016. He showed you, but y'all didn't want to listen to it. Y'all didn't believe what you saw. Y'all didn't believe what you heard. Now, all of a sudden, some of y'all are shocked.

Man, I can't believe Jerry was there. Neil where? Neil who? Neil on what? You will be on the line your head will be over your heart okay play if you want to like I said

you can't fool me nah I mean it's clear as day when you get upset and what you say and how you treat people. Yeah. That's how you are.

It says everything. Everything. Everything. So hopefully Mario, they build a relationship, get on the same page real, real quick. But we're going to talk about Jerry a little later. We ain't done with his ass yet.

I know I'm not. That's the best part about this. It's later. We ain't done with his ass yet. I know I'm not. That's the best part about this. It's this. Oh, Joe. This is us. This is us. Oh, yeah. We might not be able to get no comp NFL ticket, but hell, I'll buy my own ticket.

Yeah. Now, don't you say too much. Hey, you let me handle this okay okay yeah okay it's time for money moves presented by draft kings since the two big trades the odds in the afc are now as follow. The Chiefs are plus 200. The Ravens are plus 300. The Texans are plus 550. The Bills are plus 550. Even with the addition of Devontae Adams,

the New York Jets, and the Cincinnati Bengals have the exact same odds, plus 1,500. You know what's funny? You know what's funny you know what's funny even with those odds I mean if you're a true football fan

and you understand the game of football despite the Bengals being what they are right now 2-4 if I'm not mistaken you know we're making the playoffs if there's a team that can dig themselves out the hole that they put themselves in

you know the Bengals can do it. Offensively, the firepower, the weaponry that Joe Burrow has at his helm, you know they can do it. They have the Browns coming up this week, right? That's another win.

I'm not sure we play after that. I think it might be a bye. I might be wrong. I'm not sure it is, but we're going to dig be a buy. I might be wrong. I'm not sure what it is. But we're going to dig ourselves out. So when playoff time comes, best believe we will be there. And it won't be no goddamn wild card. The problem that you're running into is that your defense is as weak as your offense is as potent. Yeah.

So now what? So you mess around and kick a field goal or you don't get any points. Guess what happens to the other team? They go down the field and score. Right. So now... We're going to work on that. Okay.

Okay. Listen, if we're at the bottom of the league, I'm not saying we might be 26, 27. If we can just find a way to hit the rhythm, get some momentum, and be maybe around

18, 17, 16, somewhere around there. And when you need it most, make the stop on third down that we need in important games, in big moments, we're going to be alright. That's all that matters. Can you get done what you need

to get done when you absolutely have to? I don't care about where you rank done what you need to get done when you absolutely have to i don't care about where you rank right you need to stop or you need if you need to stop can you get off the field right you need a first down right can't you stay on the field right that's all that matters yeah it's nice to be number one in offense number one in defense number one in takeaways what good is number one in takeaways when you need a takeaway you can't get? You can't get it. Well, you know what? I said, basically, I wish we were a little higher, somewhere in the middle of the pack when it comes to us being ranked defensively.

Because if we're in the middle of the pack, that means we're a little bit more consistent in making the stops that we need, as opposed to being at the bottom, which means a percentage in the chance of us making a stop ain't motherfucking likely. Normally, when you give up a ton of yards, that means you're pretty lousy on third down because that means teams are staying on the field and they'll continue

to move the ball down the field on you. So they're getting 30, 40, 25, 30, 40 yards a drive because they're staying on the field on third down. Now, you could just give up big plays, but the likelihood of a defense just giving up big play after big play no not very likely right it's the it's the ability to get off the because third down everybody was trying to get the third down well don't let us go on first don't let them score on third on second down

let's just get the third down well if you get third down and you can't get off the field, remember Alabama? Alabama played Vanderbilt. And Vanderbilt was like 12 of 18 on third down. First of all, you get the 18 third down, boy, you're getting it handed to you. And then they pick up 12 of those.

So that's the thing. Clearly, the odds make it ultra feel that Cooper is a bigger addition to Bills than Adams is to the Jets. Because if Chiefs won, Ravens two, Texans and Bills tied for the third best odds. Right. And then you have the Bengals and the Jets tied for the fourth best odds. I mean, the Bengals and the Jets, right? You know what?

Fifth best, fifth, fifth, fifth. You know, based on those odds, I think the odds makers are looking at how the Bills are playing before Amari got there. They're looking at how Josh Allen was playing, not having superstar weapons

at his disposal, and they were still doing okay. They were still doing well. So with his addition, I mean, obviously, it just takes everything up a little bit more. I could be wrong. I don't know how they make these things. But again, it's just

an educated guess because you never know how things are going to turn out. Well, it's amazing how close they be though, don't they? To the point, the lines. That's crazy, huh? That's crazy. And is stuff like that why people think that the game is real they think it is but it's impossible to get 53 people on the same page i know that it's impossible to orchestrate 53 people or 11 on one side of the ball and the other 11 to follow a goddamn script that's why i understand why people say that sometimes. Do you know how difficult that would be?

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Nope. One little thing. So how you gonna get fit? Maybe once upon a time, Ocho, it's too much money involved. You're talking about a guy that's making $60 million. You mean to tell me he's willing to risk his $60 million and be banned from the league? To do what? Not a chance in hell.

But Ocho, when people believe something, ain't nothing you can do. I think they be playing. Maybe they be playing sometime. No, they be dead serious. You think so? Yeah. Ocho, you know, I think they'd be playing. Maybe they'd be playing sometime. No, they'd be dead serious. You think so? Yeah.

Okay, people are gullible. Why you think, like you said, look at the internet. People believe that those are those people's lives, that they'd really be flying private jets, and they have them big homes, and they have all these cars and all that stuff. You see how the internet do that? Yes, sir. And how

somebody can say something on the internet and it is totally not true. Right. Then it gets retweeted, it gets shared and then it gets, man, that's all these hoaxes such and such died. People are gullible. Ocho people are naive. Yeah.

But, like I said, it ain't never happened to me. I can just go by what I know and the games I've been on. I ain't never been nobody trying to throw the game or no foolishness like that. There was a script. There ain't no script. All that work we done put in, all the times we done denied our family,

done been away from our family, lifting all those heavy-ass weights, training like we train and then I'm going to let somebody else win man they'll kiss my I ain't do all that for that oh no if you'd hope your team

would land either Adams or Cooper don't worry because there are some very good players who could be made available between now and the November 5th trade deadline, Ocho. Here's a list of receivers that could be moved by the deadline. You got DeAndre Hopkins with the Titans. You got Deontay Johnson

of the Panthers. You got Mike Williams of the Jets. You got Cooper Cup of the Rams. Whoa. Jordan Addison. Hold on. Why in the hell they got Jordan Addison's name in there? There's no need to move Jordan. There's no need to move Jordan.

The Cooper Cup, I understand. Cooper the Cool is probably going to take over for Cooper Cup. And that's a big salary. Yeah, obviously salary reasons. But they put him on there. You might not even know. He might take a pay cut. He might take a pay cut to stay in

that system. Give me one more. Deontay Johnson. You know what would be a good fit for him to go back to? Pittsburgh. Right back to Pittsburgh because there's really no disrespect to any of the receivers on the Steelers team, but he's another good

viable option that can get the F open on the other side of George Pickens. Why not? When he want to. You think you don't want to? That's why they let him go. What was he doing?

Remember the loafing? Yeah. Remember to not run hard on Joe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. I remember that,

but I'm sure you're going to come back with a different attitude, a different perspective, because as you look at it, when you go from team to team like that, all right, now the window's closing. The window's starting to close. Your eyes start to open up a little bit more. You know? You're not a young chicken.

You ain't no spring chicken no more. You start paying attention to the way the league is moving the older folks out. So you come in on your best behavior when you get a second, sometimes a third chance. The Addison reasoning, the Vikings are soaring right now, but Addison has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle. Not only had underperformed this season, but remember he had off-field issues.

I think he had what, two DUIs? Oh yeah, yeah. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. And remember he started the season, he was hurt. So you know what happens when you get hurt? You give a team an opportunity to look at somebody else. Well, who they like?

Who they like over here right now? Well, considering they're 5-0, they like a lot of people over here, my guess. Right, I got you. Ocho, you know what happens when you and your girl beefing? Oh, we need to take some time apart. Right, right. When you're not somebody else to look at them. Yeah, that's all right. That's's alright. So while they're looking,

make sure they take over these motherfucking responsibilities too. They will. Yeah, that's fine. You just got to realize, you know, your girl new to somebody else. That's fine. That's fine too. Guess I'm looking at the long term. I'm thinking about how much I'm finna save.

Go ahead. You can take that. Man, I can think about what she did to me. What she did to get me. I don't care. Come back. Come on back, baby. I'm sorry. Hey, listen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, but one thing about it. What is it?

Us? We can walk out the front door. You can get you another one. Oh, man. Huh? Ocho. Hold on. I don't know.

Ocho, man. Hey. Boy, don't be no fool now. You can walk out that door and get you another one. Man, but this was here, Ocho. Had my toes spread apart like this here, Ocho, have my toes spread apart like this here, Ocho. Uh-uh. Listen, I can find you 30 mocha. Do the same

thing. Yeah, I can find you 30. Listen to me. Let me take my glass off. I can find you 30 mocha. Do the same thing. Come on, now. All right. I ain't looking. Nah, you ain't finna get me in trouble. I ain't looking. Nah, you ain't finna get me in trouble. Nah, I ain't looking.

Dude. Dude, you on your own on this one, Ocho. Okay. Matter of fact, look. She just texted me too. She just texted me about, watch your mouth. Man, hey, listen. Baby and Turks,

man, about 30 of them. Huh? 20 of them. Man, 20 of Baby and Turks, man, we're about 30 of them. 20 of them. We have 20 of them in Turks. What? Yeah. What's the age range? They out there deep, boy. What's the age range?

Shoot, 30 and up? Hey, I'm talking about all business women, too. I don't think you got enough sparks for that man you better man look here they just sent me another shipment boy boy hey Ojo I'm moving weight like Pablo Escobar

yeah I'm moving weight like Pablo Escobar. Yeah. I'm moving weight like Escobar, baby. Yeah. Hey, that's a good one. You know, I know we off topic. That's a good topic, though. And I mean, maybe we hit that another time, but I like that.

Oh, yeah. I think a little different, though. I think I'm wired a little different Oh you wanna Okay bet go ahead take that Cause you saving me some I'm gonna let you have that Cause that mean that's an expense I ain't got no more So that's light on my pockets

But you ain't getting them goodies no more Ojo You look at it a little different Ojo them goodies What fear I say them goodies And I ain't talking about them headache powders. Yeah, I know. They have a good,

if they come with a headache, that's a headache. Y'all probably not old enough to know about BCs and goody powders. Can I tell you something? Yeah. Come on. Stay with me real quick. When it comes to the goodies.

Yeah. No, you know, the goodies outnumber all the men. You know that, huh? It's goodies everywhere. Yeah.

It's goodies everywhere. You ever been, you ever been to Chuck E. Cheese? You know, you know hownumber all the men. You know that, huh? It's goodies everywhere. It's goodies everywhere. You ever been to Chuck E. Cheese? You know how they had a play pit? The play pit with the little plastic balls in it? That's what it's like when you step out to dough. It's goodies everywhere. Take your pick. But remember you told us about that favorite place that you like to go to and get your latte and smoke your cigar?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go there for a latte and smoke your cigar? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't go, you can go a lot of other places. There are a lot of other places that got 30 TVs on the wall. And they got La Liga and they got UEFA. And they got the Champions League on the wall. And they got lattes. And they'll let you smoke on an open patio. But there's something about that place, Sidney. Yeah. And they got lattes. And they'll let you smoke on an open patio. But there's something about

that place, Sidney. Yeah. And we just had a show, right? You know what we talked about on that last show? Last time we was on here, right? What at? When it's time to cut your losses.

Yeah, you're right, Ocho. Damn. Come on now. Listen, it don't got to be Sunday for me to preach to you and I shouldn't be the one preaching to you. Come on now.

Stay with me. All right. All right. Yeah, if I cut my losses, O preaching to you. Come on now. Stay with me. All right. Yeah, if I cut my losses, Ocho, you're right. Listen, sometimes you got something. I cut my loss and get me another watch. I'll get me a watch or something. There you go. Because one thing about it,

that new watch is going to tell the same time the old one did. Come on now. Don't do me like that. I'm going to talk to you. I'll be looking like, I got you because I just lost something. But I ain't fooling with you, Ojo. I haven't let you talk me out of a good situation.

You talked your ass off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just relaying the message. That's my purpose. Just relaying the message. That's what I, that's my purpose. Just relaying the message at times. Cause when I know you feel like the way you feel like, right. Like how you talking right now?

Yeah. When you feel like that, right. When they know you don't want to lose them. See, they'll play with you. See, when you feel like that,

they'll walk all over you. When they, when they do you feel the way you feel. Okay. I ain't, he ain't gonna let me go nowhere because he feel it so good about me. I'm going to push the envelope and see how far I can take it.

No, no, no. Hey, I'm too big of a cat to be played with like a kitten now. Hey, you ain't fit. Hey, you ain't fit. Hey, hold on now. There we go. Now, that's the motherfucker

I was waiting to hear. Come on. Hey, don't play. Wake him up. There you go. Don't play with me like that. Now, hey, I'm easier. I'm easier, like, with women, dealing with women, Ocho.

Right, right. I'll give them a lot longer leash, lead. Right, right. Than I will a dude trying to play. But, hey, don't ever get it twisted now yeah yeah yeah i'm just i don't spend the better part of 56 years by my damn self come on now now i don't i don't want to be by myself you know so if I'm choosing an individual no

I can be alone but I ain't gonna be lonely stop playing with me now those are two different things I got damn pen at oh I can't find my pen just hold that one for me hold that thought right there oh there it is come on get it get that to me again get that to me again now

i can be alone right but i ain't gonna be lonely well you think i ain'tna use that in our next argument man please those are two different things cause sometimes you can be alone you can be you can be with somebody and be lonely

and not know it I used to say all the time the loneliest place you can be is to be somewhere you're not wanted so now you're somewhere you have somebody but they don't want you you're alone

and don't know it all she's doing is tolerating you or all he's doing is tolerating you until he she can replace you. Hmm See See, but you got to pay attention See if you're smart as a man, you got to pay attention

You got to understand when she just tolerating you because things are the same those hugs aren't the same those kids. Yeah Yeah Hey, listen when you lay down horizontally, it's not the same. You got to pay attention. You got to read the cues. It's like the quarterback. When he see the blitz coming, bitch, you better audible. Mm-hmm.

You better audible. Hey, man, look here. I get it on your look look I think the thing is that sometimes we make the mistake is that when we get the woman we don't feel we need to date her anymore we don't need we need to do the things that we did to get her and I'll be the first to admit

I've been that's been me I'll admit hey we just talked about that remember we just been you know since we talked about, man, we got complacent. I kid you not. And listen, hey, chat, we family. I can tell you. We got

the year five. Shit, the day started to slow down a little bit, huh? I love you started to slow down a little bit. I can tell you that. I can be honest. Familiarity set in. The first thing I said Well damn we beefing Damn we need to start beefing

I got to find a way To record To re-love To re-date How can I make this shit Exciting again I got to turn myself into somebody I got to

Find a way to be the fun guy again I used to be the fun guy You know the one your mama said Don't bring home Yeah that was me I got to find a way to be the fun guy again. I used to be the fun guy. You know, the one your mama said, don't bring home. Yeah, that was me. I got to add that perspective back to everything I do. With a little balance. With a little balance. Yeah.

But you know what happens, Ocho? Yeah. And as you, like, the longer you go in a relationship, the least little thing will set you off. Now you mad for no reason. You looking for, you starting to look for reasons to get upset. Right. Man, what?

Ain't no, who left this little bit of toilet paper on here? Now you know damn well. One little sheet. Now you mean to tell me the least little thing start to get you upset and you start to look me the least little thing start to get you upset and you start to look for reasons to get upset yeah we're in the beginning she take all the toilet paper off the roll and you wouldn't even battle now you go and it ain't no problem yeah she leave a clone down in the middle of the floor it ain't no problem yeah the highest biggest fan yeah now

all of a sudden the least little thing out of place, you mad. Mad. Yeah. So you got the, and like I said, I've been guilty of it and I've tried to like, I try to write down things. Okay. Okay.

Sheldon, in the beginning, this is what you did. You did this, this, this, this, this.

Okay. You got him. She liked that. Now that you've been with this, you've been in this situation, you got to continue to do this, this,

this, this. But the hardest thing, Ocho, is that I tell been with this, you've been in this situation, you got to continue to do this, this, this, this. But the hardest thing, Ocho, is that I tell, I like, as the problem that I run into is that I'm not the same person that you met. I'm the same person,

but my surroundings are different. Right. And I need you to understand that. Cause now there was no nightcap. Not nightcap is four or five days a week. There was no now five, four or five days of nightcap. Now I got two days of first take.

Now I'm shooting one to two episodes of club. Shay, Shay. Now I got to jump into a meeting with Shay by LaPorte. Yay. Now I got two days of first tape. Now I'm shooting one to two episodes of Club Shea Shea. Now I got to jump into a meeting with Shea by LaPorte. Now I got to take other stuff with this one and that one. So the time that I could just spend on the time, hey, what you doing? Yeah.

What you want to do? What you want to do? What you want? I don't have that kind of time. Right. Yeah. Ain't the same. We hit a nice little...

Listen, you know how you reset your router? You unplug the router. Yeah. Plug it back in, and we reset. We just hit a reset button. We over here pouring into each other like Sunday delight. Oh, Joe. We over here pouring into each other like Sunday delight Ocho we over here

pointing at each other like Sunday delight like I never met her before like I never met her before I said I got to treat you like an iPhone I got to do a hard reset you can do a soft reset

or you can do a hard reset sometimes you record a hard reset Ocho hard hey let me take my glass off now it's been a long five years boy it is Hard. Hey, let me take my glass off now. It's been a long five years, boy.

It is. Boy. But yeah, I think you need to understand. But when you, when you say, hey, I need this,

I need X, Y, and Z, I'm able to do it. Right. Because of. Because, yeah. I ain't got no, I ain't got do it because of being, yeah. I ain't got no issues in that area because there's an understanding is, you know, the

Ocho or the Chad you met five years ago ain't the same Chad now. I've evolved. You're busier. You're working now. That's a good thing. But that one there got understanding because she's also busy. So there's no clash in that area. But we needed that mental reset because the complacency on both sides.

But we good. Hey, right now the cup runneth over. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Come on now. Hey, we all off track. Hey, it is what it is. That's what I'm talking about. Come on, man. Hey, we all off track. That's our show. We get back on

there sometime. DeHart responded to the trade rumor saying, I love my life. I love where I am. God put me where I needed to be and he always will. I play football. I love that. That's what he's supposed to say. Yeah. Because you don't want to say, hey, I'm looking forward to getting moved, and you

don't go nowhere. Now you got the fans mad at you. Now you got the teammates talking about you thinking about getting up out of here. DeHoff played that thing perfect. Yeah. I mean, always. It's just like the quarterbacks. Everybody say, everything they say is PC. Everything is politically correct. We know you want up out of there.

You deserve to be up out of there, and I hope the Chiefs don't get you. I'm not sure what the salary cap the uh the numbers may be but if they can find a way to work in there rishi rice wait is rishi rice he's done for the year yeah that's a 10 to 12 month that's a 10 to 12 month recovery yeah i think i think d hop to the chiefs would be perfect even though juju Smith, the last game, maybe the game before the last, previous, had a phenomenal game. Phenomenal game

offensively, but DeHop being a reliable target who is going to catch everything. I think it'd be good. It'd be good. All that short and intermediate stuff, he can master all that. The pair with Chelsea, man. You got Worthy to take the top off. You catch him na that. The pair with Kelsey, man. You got Worthy to take the top off.

You catch him napping. He can blow the top off. You got Juju and D-Hop working intermediate stuff. You got Kelsey doing his thing. Yeah. You got Hunt, Kareem Hunt, running the football. And can catch out the backfield too,

like he did when he was first there the first four or five seasons. The Chargers and Steelers and Saints have reportedly reached out to the Jets about Mike Williams. Damn! I like that. I like that. I like it. Listen, Mike just got to be in

the right situation. I'm not sure, Chad. I'm not sure if y'all watched Mike Williams when he was healthy when he was with the Chargers. Yeah, the only thing is he couldn't stay healthy. Yeah, that's always been his issue. That's his only problem, Ocho.

But he gonna catch everything. A 50-50 ball, I close my eyes. I guarantee you he's coming down with it. I mean, he big, big physical receiver. What's he like, 6'3"?

220? 225? 6'4", 6'5". You might be right, Ocho. I mean, he's a big, big receiver. Got speed. Can get deep. Like you said, he's a big, big receiver. Got speed. Can get deep.

Like you said, can make. Now, he does have lapses where he just loses concentration. He'll drop a routine plan. You're like, bro, I just saw you make a damn accurate circus catch. Yeah. But, man. Yeah, he's 6'4", what, 220? 280?

Okay. I said, what's he at, 220? No, he's 218. Oh, Joe, Tyreek Hill says he's still the best receiver in the NFL after Devontae Adams and Amari Cooper trades. They're not the best receivers in the league because I am. And I stand on that. Reek said. I mean, he didn't tell no lie.

He didn't tell no lie. I know people look at stats, circumstance, opportunities. When they decrease, so do your numbers. But if Tua was in, we know who the best receiver in the league is. Some people might say Chase. Some people might say

Justin Jefferson. Yeah, Jada got something to say about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, Tyreek is ugh. I like him. I agree with him. I agree with him. Based on preference, some people would choose, you know, Justin.

Based on preference, some people would choose Chase. Who else is in that conversation, huh? I just with him. Based on preference, some people would choose, you know, Justin. Based on preference, some people would choose Chase. Who else is in that conversation? I just named three. It got to be somebody else. It got to be at least one more. Tyreek, CD. Okay, okay. Some people like Mike Evans. Mike is all reliable.

He's consistent. Mr. Consistent. He's consistent, yeah. But like you said, Devontae, Chase, Jetta, Mr. Consistent Mr. Consistent yeah but like you said Devontae, Chase Jetta, Reek, CD Mike Evans I'm trying to think who else we should throw

AJ Brown oh yeah I'm tripping forgot about AJ yeah yeah that's a good one. I like it. I like it.

I mean, he said, and he said everything with a smile too, but you know, he meant, he meant every word. He meant every word of it. He meant every last word. Is Max Crosby on the move soon?

Also, he has some interesting comments today. I'm not here to rebuild. I'm here to win, whatever that means. But I'm here to win now. Wherever I'm going to be, I'm going to be here to win. So if I'm Detroit, I offer a first and a third round pick for Max Crosby. Right now.

I'm not bulljacking. I'm not. Look, this is what I got on the table for you. I got a first and a third. Right. Because you just left one of the premier, you just lost one of the premier pass rushers. The league leading sack leader.

Seven and a half sacks. I'm going to get Max Crosby. Yeah, most definitely. All in. And imagine next year, Max on one side and Aiden O'Connell on the other. I mean, let's talk about Aiden O'Connell. And Aiden Hutchinson on the other side. And they just signed, I mean, they got DJ Reader.

They got DJ Reader that was at Cincinnati. Cincinnati, yeah. I forget. They just extended a big D tackle. I forget his name. They just gave a boatload of money, like $90-plus million. They got some good young talent. Yeah.

They got a really good talent. I mean, that GM has done a great job. But if I'm Max Crosby, I'm trying to go to Detroit. That's where I want to be. That is exactly where I want to be. And he is a dream for Campbell. Oh, yeah.

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