Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Quinnen Williams WON’T HELP the COWBOYS + Colts GAMBLE on TRADING for Sauce Gardener + Ravens’ Isaiah Likely EXPOSES Lamar Jackson

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Dallas Cowboys making a big trade for Quinnen Williams, Indianapolis Colts trade for Sauce Gardner in a ...huge trade and Baltimore Ravens tight end joins the show to talk about the Ravens season thus far and much more! 04:10 - Cowboys Trade for Quinnen Williams19:28 - Colts trade for Sauce Gardner30:27 - Isaiah Likely joins the show52:25 - Josh Downs gives Sauce his #1 jersey (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:58 Joe? Talk to Tim. The squad, show which you could have joined us on Monday night, got the brakes beat off him at home, national televised again. But Jerry Jones kept this big trade promise acquiring Pro Bowl defensive tackers, Quentin Williams, from the Jets and linebacker Logan Wilson from the Bengals. Jess gave up a 2027 first round pick, a 22nd,
Starting point is 00:04:19 second round pick, and defensive tackle, Mazzie Smith. The Jets acquired Williams. Dallas also acquired Logan Wilson from the Bengals in exchange for a seventh round pick. How much better did the Cowboys get, Ocho, and Joe, with those additions, Quentin Williams and Logan Wilson. Hey, I think we got better. I mean, we've been struggling on the defensive side, Ocho. Y'all know that. And you didn't have to bring that up neither of what happened on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:04:50 We could have left that long. You understand? But I'm on here rapping tonight. you know, I got my cowboy star jacket on. Hey, we got a new start, baby. It's time for us to, you know, buckle down and see what we can do in this second half for the season. I'm excited about the new additions, man.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Let's see if we can string some wins together. I don't think that's like that's probably not likely, but I understand. Look, I mean, not a whole lot of teams. If you're three, five, and one, Joe, at this point in the season, normally a whole lot of three, five, and one teams aren't giving up first and second round picks, they're trying to unload. They're not trying to acquire. And so it's odd, you know, Jerry must believe.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I'm complete, I guess that means that he doesn't believe in Mazzie Smith. Mazzie Smith was a former first round draft pick. Jerry doing all the picking. You know, Jerry say can't nobody do a better job than him. Well, I mean, y'all, y'all understand that. Y'all know he running that shit over there. He's going to run it how he wanted to be running. With iron fist.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, you already know. They have a 7% chance, Joe, of reaching the playoffs, according to ESPN football power index. Quentin Williams, four years, $96 million, that he's signed in 2023 with a total of $66 million guaranteed. The contract runs through 2027. The Cowboys are not responsible for the remaining payments after they're acquiring him. The problem is he really doesn't have a whole lot of guaranteed money on that contract. So you know what that means, Joe? What's that?
Starting point is 00:06:21 He's going to want another contract. Hey, look. Now, you've got Quentin Williams on the books, $20 million. You got Kenny Clark on the contract, $20 million. You got a Digi Zua on the contract, $20 million. You got a quarterback on the contract, $23 million. You got another DB, Ocho. Diggs, $19 million.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You got that, $60 million. CD Lamb, $34 million. You got George Pinky. is going to want $34, $35 million, and you just signed those two offensive linemen. Oh, Joe, something got to give. Something is going to give. Them goddamn trades don't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That ain't another decoration. Listen, come on, Joe, don't play like that. That would Jerry just want to be a part of the circus. Where everybody else making moves, well, let me make some moves too. Does it improve my defense in any way? No, no disrespect to Logan Wilson, but you're coming from Bengon team that was ranked 32nd. and going to a cowboy team that's ranked 31st.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You weren't playing the mangles, but you're going to go to the goddamn cowboys and make a goddamn difference. The likelihood of that happening? Probably absolutely goddamn not. You got Kenny Clark, you got goddamn Quinn and Williams, but to let Michael Parsons go, who is an impact player on your goddamn defense.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh, you need to stop the run. Well, you also need the goddamn sack the quarterback. You need to put pressure on the quarterback. Everybody's going to be able to throw the ball on you. We're in a passing league. You need a defense in on the outside to be able to get to the quarterback. Stop in the run.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Eh, you got Kenny Clark. Everybody's still been running on. You have a thing? Whoa. Now you got, you got Quinn and Williams. It is supposed to be that much of a difference. It is supposed to be that much of a difference. You will absolutely see?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Probably not. But what the Cowboys need to do, if I'm that, I'm calling the players only beating only for the offense. Only for the offense, and I'm going to let them know. Hey, listen, in order for us to win, in order for us to win, in order for us to compete, week and week out, we have to raise our level of play. We can't have no mistakes. George Piggins, I need you to play it all hell out.
Starting point is 00:08:36 C.D. Lamb, I need you to play all out. Jake Ferguson, don't fumble the ball. Brother Williams, hold on to the ball because we don't have the type of defense where we can overcome turnovers in games. I need your boys locked in. We three and five with a seven percent. chance to make the goddamn playoffs i think we can do it this is just me this is just me hypothetically being back listen man man they ain't doing nothing on hey hey joe hey joe you are you about
Starting point is 00:09:04 delusional as all the goddamn oh joe oh joe oh joe oh joe so you expect delusion slow down slow down slow down turbo slow down slow down listen sometimes sometimes all you need is a fresh start man look at least we got a chance to even make the playoffs all right No, we got a fighting chance. Joe, let me give you, Joe, let me get you, let me get you, your next six games.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Oh, I've seen it. At the Raiders. Eagles at home, Kansas City at home, at Lions, Vikings at home, charges at home. Joe,
Starting point is 00:09:37 what you think about that, Joe? Hey, hey, that's a tough slate. That's a tough slate. But listen, I think we can handle it, man,
Starting point is 00:09:44 I think we can handle it. Hey, look, one game at a time, okay, Ocho, y'all looking, y'all looking, man, we can't,
Starting point is 00:09:50 That's how y'all got to be three, five, and one. Losing one game at a time. Y'all didn't lose. Hey, Ocho, they didn't lose all five of them at once. One game at a time. Hey, look, I know Uncle's feeling good on money. I'm glad I wasn't on here with y'all. That was embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Oh, my God. Hey, look, you could just, you could just see it. That, I mean, your best corner got cooked. Yeah. I mean, he got cooked. your best corner. That is your best, that is your best defense. As a matter of fact, all things being equal, he's supposed to be your best defensive player. Because guess what? He's the only player on your defense that's been to the Pro Bowl. So what's he supposed to be, Ocho? Your best player.
Starting point is 00:10:35 You got rid of Micah, digs us out. He's supposed to be your best player. Your linebackers are terrible. They're out there like a blind dog in a meet house. They just running around. They know somebody got the ball. They just can't see him in town. Hey, Uncle Joe. I mean, Both you all know about fashion on, and you know when you put your clothes on, you always got to have a statement piece. When you have a goddamn defense, you always have a statement piece. Most of the time, your statement piece, you want to be a defense end and you want to be, excuse me, you want to be a defense end and you want to be somebody on the back end. There has to be a statement piece in either at the third level, the first level, at the second level, it's a toss up. You don't have to be a superstar unless you, unless you're Goddamn Fred Warner, you know, but the Cowboys have nothing of that magnitude.
Starting point is 00:11:20 to. Nothing, nothing on that defense that can change and impact the game at all. They just have, I mean, no disrespect. Just guys. They just have guys. Therefore, their identity is on the officer's side of the ball and everybody on the office side of the ball has to bring that, you know what, up a notch. They have to. In order to dig themselves out this hole, they have to damn near play almost mistake-free football. True. Can't turn it over. I do. No, hell. No. No. Not when your defense is that bad. We saw Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:11:54 They had two receivers over 100 yards, the quarterback that got 470 yards. He got four touchdowns. But do you turn it over? Because your defense can't stop anybody. So you turn it over. You take points off the board. You might as well put 3 to 7 on the board for them
Starting point is 00:12:07 because your defense can't stop them. Right, because Cincinnati ain't even got a chance. I mean, wait, we got the same chance y'all got. What are you talking about? Y'all got the same chance. We got the exact same chance you got, the exact same one. Listen, for us, it's our offense.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's the same conversation. If Dak was the call of player only's meeting for the offense, Joe Flackham and go have that same conversation over here with us. Oh, Joe, y'all can't stop nobody? But, Joe, we score on 30, 38, 40 a game. All right. Y'all, y'all putting them up. But the teams, y'all playing, scoring 45-50 at night.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That wasn't necessary. I didn't need you to bring that part up. I'm just telling him what we're doing. I'm just reiterating. Oh, Joe, does he realize that y'all, y'all, all in, you know, like y'all talking each, y'all neighbors. Y'all 31, 31 to other 32, y'all literally the same day, Joe. I don't know why Joe, I don't know why Joe think he hys and did it, oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's all good. It's all good. Y'all's all good. What, what, 32? But look, this is, Jay, I don't know, having played in the league, having been around the league. I can't honestly say, I don't know if I've ever seen a team that's this deep into the season. that's only won three games that gives up a first round draft pick.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Normally you're unloading those guys, Ocho, trying to get capital in so you can build like, we're not one player away. Jerry said, we're not one player away. But you trade a first round draft pick on a, let's just say you're 7, 2 and 1. Let's just say you're 8 and 2. Let's just say you're 6, 3 in 1.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Okay, I can kind of see that. You're right there, you lead in your division. bro how under what scenario would you give up at 3 3 and at 3 5 and 1 would you give up a first round a second round pick next year and a first round pick in 27 because we we live we we live we we live in we we can't we don't know what that's going to look like y'all suck right now yeah but i'm saying we need help right now we need help you bring it in ain't going to make a difference the help you bring it in ain't go move the needle is not going to to do anything for you.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's like a class project, right? You see everybody else, everybody else helping with a class project, everybody putting their two cents and being a part of the project. And Jerry just, Jerry just there for the extra credit. You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:32 I'm just going ahead and make some moves just to do what I, do what I always do, keep the fans excited. Yeah, that's, that's a good people to something to talk about. Come on, Joe, you know that. Look at what the same, oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The same saying, we ain't got no, we ain't going no damn playoff. Rishie, we love to have you. Hey, we're going to trade you get draft capital. Offensive lineman, we love to have you. You saw what the Jets did. They traded their two best players. I don't, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:57 We ain't going to, oh, Joe. Why am I paying, oh, Joe, I'm not, we're not going anywhere. Right. We got two guys that's eating up 50 plus million dollars, and we're going nowhere. You know what? Let me go ahead. Right. It's like a car.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I got this car that's valuable. I ain't going to drive it. I ain't going nowhere. And somebody going to offer me top. dollar for it. Mm-hmm. Come on and get it. And listen, not only do they offer top dollar,
Starting point is 00:15:22 what I don't like and don't understand is how you pay a play in the offseason, the kind of money they pay Sauce Gardner, right? As highly viewed as he is, I know he's had some struggles. You know, so far, obviously, with me believing that defensive back, obviously is equivalent to playing quarterback in NFL being the most difficult position to play, probably a little. Those are the most athletic guys. Oh, yeah, yeah, most definitely.
Starting point is 00:15:47 obviously having to deal with these receivers running at you full speed these elite fast receivers it can be very difficult at times so they're going to be ups and downs but to let a player of that caliber go and i just talked to you know uncle joe about having a statement piece something that you can build around something that you can lean on that can actually impact and change the defense and i see sauce in that light in the sense um like like the the pat surteens not not different different types of players i'm i'm you know you know what joe yeah you do real you live in a shack and you got a $30,000, a $30,000
Starting point is 00:16:22 deal to me. I know what you mean. I know because you won a 7, you want to upload it. Joe, what's that doing? But, at least I want to be able to compete. At least I want to be able to give myself a chance. Like, what the Jets did today was like, you know what, forget it, we won and 7, we won an 8, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You know what, we get rid of everything. We have in a yard sale. We're letting our biggest prize possessions go, you know, and hoping, you know, for the unknown. I don't want to deal with the unknown. I don't want to deal with the unknown. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:16:51 With those two players they gave up, how many games did they win this year? Yeah, one. Let me ask you question. Last year with those same two players, how many games did they win? You know what? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:17:01 They weren't very good last year either. Quentin Williams been an all pro. Saul's garden, his first two years, he was an all pro. Yes, sir. There has been very many corners that's coming in the league. You go back instead of the history of corners.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm talking about all these corners that's in the pro football Hall of Fame. They've been very few that's coming to league and their first two years been first team all pro. Not only was he first team all pro, he was a defensive rookie of the year. How many times they've been to the playoffs, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:17:28 With those two guys, pro bowl players, defensive player of the year, all pro players, how many playoff appearances they got Ocho? Yeah, they ain't got none. They ain't got none. So with that being said, I can miss the playoffs
Starting point is 00:17:37 and not have to pay $60 million. Yeah, you're right. They're going to say, you know what, Ocho, and you know this joke. We're rebuilding. We rebelling. Right now, we're not good enough to compete. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:51 So you know what? Fuck it. We don't really want to trade Salsga. Y'all going to give us two first rounders? So if it takes two first rounders to get Sals Garner, well, you want Mines Gareth, you got to give up four first rounders. Three. I'm just saying, no joke.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Sal's Garde went for two first rounders and a player. Yeah. That man right there, a Miles Garrett is a defensive player to your candidate. effing year he's going to have another year with at least 14 sacks what he's done for the last five, six years. It's crazy work.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And like I said, if I Miles, and I know Miles is loyal, Miles, you got your money, man. Say, bro, you want to go somewhere and get traded. Quinny, I commend Quinny. Cuinity say, man, losing just, it's just tough, man.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah. He said, hey, the money, yeah, I'm getting paid. But I'm a competitor, man. No, you ain't got to tell me, uncle, I had to deal with that for years, huh? You hear me? I bad. Hey, listen, I had to deal with that for years. I had I take it off for you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah, man. Hey, hey, Joe, I had to deal with it for years. I think I've had maybe one or two in the season. So to be able to deal with that, you know, I had to make it fun, Joe. I had to make it fun to come to work. I had to make Sundays fun. I had to get the fans a reason or the people watching a reason to, why would we even to even tune into them?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Well, hell, I got to see what is my, I got to see what this. motherfucker fin to do today. Because I was going to do something. Hey, Joe, Joe and Uncle, I was going to do something. I had to make that environment fun for everyone else. No, you need to make it fun for you. Hey, hey, you got, you got to, you go home and think about, man, what am I, if I score a touchdown this week, what about it?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Hey, but I'm, but I'm, you know, that was fun for you to give the people something to come that they came to pay good money to see you. Yeah, yeah. They can, man, what are you going to do? Man, I know Ocho will act a fool, man. Please, make an Ocho getting the end zone. So he could act of food. That's what they're hoping.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah, man. That's what I want to see. We're not going to win. Hey, we ain't win. But I tell you what, I receive it entertaining. Yeah. Yeah. The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday.
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Starting point is 00:22:05 A 2026 first round pick and a 2027 first round pick. So two ones and a player to get Salt Gardner. In July, they signed Salt Gardner to the highest, contract ever for deep for a cornerback four years 120 million 30.1 million per year and they trade what's that about though y'all got to help me on this one i think it's a combination we're not winning we can't justify paying a corner that is not they don't believe he's playing to the level that he played his first two years when he's the first team all pro right and that plus we lose it how can we justify paying that kind of money uh uh joe
Starting point is 00:22:45 and Ocho, and we lose it. Hey, look, sometimes it's the environment, though. Y'all know this. Yeah, because I saw Sam Darlane get up out of there and look like a, and looked like a competent quarterback. He's in the MVP discussion. Yeah. Oh, yes, you're right.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And it's the environment. And it starts with, unfortunately, Woody is you. I'm just saying, guys, guys look competent. And I think sometimes it's, quick to give up. I mean, they give up on a young, ain't no patience no more now. We're in a society now. We want what we want because
Starting point is 00:23:23 we can get it. I can order something in Amazon Prime. They will get that thing to date. I say, Shell, I need some lotion. Man, hey, they don't took a picture and sit in. Damn, that's my front door. That'll drop it off, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah. You want something, you want Uber Ease, or gruff, or whatever higher to do it now. guess what you can get it i ain't got to leave i haven't get everything i want right there so that's that's what football is that's what football and sports are turned into they used to give you time to develop but the money have gotten so great they don't they don't you got no time i can't hey i'm you know hey joe what's up i need a return on my investment expeditiously are they want A return on, huh?
Starting point is 00:24:12 R or I. Return on investment. Right away. That's another reason why. This is another reason why, especially when players get paid big, I'm speaking for the receiver position in general, for players that are struggling, especially this year, I need y'all boys. I know y'all going to see this.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I need y'all boys to come on down here and see your boy. All I need you is for a week. I need you for a week. If you want to stay longer, I can put you up, I can feed you, you know, I can give you a stifin. Is that what you call it, right, uncle? No, pedium. Per die a little per diem.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Stiping, per diem, yes. Yeah, so you'll be able to eat and, but I want to help you with your craft. I want to help you. This is for all my NFL receivers. If you're struggling, if you're not understanding why you're not getting the ball, why you're not an intricate part of the offense, please, I beg of you, come on down here with your boy. Give me a week or give me a month.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I just want to work on your game. You know, I want you to be able to come back and be able to make a difference, you know? so your officer coordinator and have to worry about you. He can put you in positions. All you got to do is all you got to do is let you play through the talking. But anyway, let's go.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Back on track. You're going to sit their quarterbacks down to Peyton Manning or Tom Brady? No, no. But see, that's the thing. That's the thing. When you get certain receivers right and you have a certain skill set,
Starting point is 00:25:27 at times, at time, because it is NFL, you would love to have a receiver where the person playing quarterback doesn't matter because you can always get open. Because you can always get open. But if he can't get me the ball, what I'm supposed to do? Hey, listen, well, whoever's at the helm shouldn't be, shouldn't be, shouldn't be quarterback.
Starting point is 00:25:43 As Jeddah, would he, would he rather have a Sam Darnel back or J.J. McCarthy? Let me see, when it comes to Jeddah, he's so calm. He's so calm when he talks. He's so politically correct. Man, talk your shit. It don't matter who playing quarterback. Call the play for me. Put me inside. Put me in motion. Put me on outside. Leave me there. I'm going to get open. He's one of the few. That can get open. Now, I understand what you're saying. But when you think about when DeAndre Hoffman was with Houston, Texas, right?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah. You think about the level of talent, the level of skill, the DNA and makeup of a Justin Jefferson, I mean, night and day. Nothing wrong with D. Hop, but I'm just saying, we talk about a dude that's on a historic run. So to me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, to me, an individual like that, man, shh, man, put anybody out there at that quarterback, just get me the ball, put the ball in the goddamn area, put the vicinity where I can reach out and touch it, I got it. they're receiving in this NFL joke and make a bad quarterback
Starting point is 00:26:39 look good with good separation if he can create good separation there are a few receive I'm talking about a handful I'm talking about a handful can make bad quarterback play look good
Starting point is 00:26:50 just put the ball in the fucking area that's it I take care of rest yeah you should give me the ball just give me the ball give me an opportunity that I ain't got to jump up
Starting point is 00:27:01 over seven feet I ain't got to drop 10 feet in the air and do all that other stuff and do a pirouette to come down with the ball. Just put the ball in my hands. Give me an opportunity. If I'm going left, just leave me. If I'm going right, just leave me.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I just want an opportunity. But man, you skipping the ball to me, like we're skipping rocks on the water at a pond, but that ain't going to work. That ain't going to work for me. But I think that has a lot to do with it. At one in seven, at one in seven, oh, Joe, we ain't going nowhere. Yeah. we're not and if we're not going anywhere it's just hard to justify you know paying the kind of money
Starting point is 00:27:43 that these guys commanding yeah you know what i mean they gave i mean and plus oh joe indy blue made them an offer they couldn't refuse oh yeah absolutely two ones and a player who won but you know when i think about the foreseeable future i like what the coach is doing because the old the coach is man what the hell the coach is saying you know what We all in. Yeah. We are all in. This is our chance.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We have a chance to do it. So I don't know poker, but I understand what put all your chips in is. And that's what the coach is doing. We have a chance. We have an opportunity. We found the quarterback quarterback of our future. And right now we're playing really well.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We actually have a goddamn chance to compete for Lombardi. No matter what people may think in general, we just do. So where does this trade? Where did this trade put in it? Are they at the top of the food chain? In the NFC, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Now, offensively, defensively, they become really good. You got, you got Kinney Moore, you got buying them. Now you add sauce gardener. When Deavius War comes back, man, hell, that could almost be like a no-fly zone. Now, it looks like that on paper. Now, can they play like that as a unit? Yeah. If they can play up that unit.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Huh? They got Buck. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. nine double double nine he nice hey look the coach locked in they said they're going for it this year
Starting point is 00:29:07 they ain't waiting yeah yeah yeah i like ballard ballad a he's like hey this is good this is a good opportunity that we're going to have we're seven and two we're sitting at top the afc um you know they beat in denver they beat thember on a walk off uh i mean think about they got they got sacked six times they had six turnovers and still only lost by seven so now what of what What happens if they only have three turnovers? What happens if they don't have any turnovers? They win the game. They feel with the way they can run the football
Starting point is 00:29:37 and the skill positions they have. Now, the right tackle, Brayton Smith got his ass handed to it. But the whole offensive line had it got their ass handed to it. Because T.J. Watt was kicking ass. High Smith was a defensive player, the AFC defensive player the week. So obviously he did his job.
Starting point is 00:29:54 But from sacking him, from force fumbles, from picking him off, they did a hell of a job on that offense. And now what team? are going to try to do, and it's a lot easier said than done, let us neutralize Jonathan Taylor, and we're going to make Daniel Jones beat us.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's what, that was Pittsburgh's philosophy. Stop Jonathan Taylor, make Daniel Jones beat you. Now, if you can't stop JT, now they're going to play action, it's going to be hard to beat them. So I don't have a problem with what Andy did.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But they gave up a steep price to get softs. Two first rounders, Joe, and a player? Yeah. And you see, Ocho, Mitchell really hadn't, since he fumbled up all at the Rams, in the goal line, they had that long touchdown,
Starting point is 00:30:39 Ocho, and he fumbled, remember? Yeah. Hey, had him in the lost and found. Hey, hey, okay, Ocho, but they was, the coach, you know, they need a help with that DB position, right? Well, Ward,
Starting point is 00:30:53 Ward was in concussion protocol. He was out there warming up, Joe, and, you know, he was backpiling, he turned and run, and he ran, dab into a player in warm-ups. Wow. So he was a pre-game.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So it wasn't warm-up like we're on the field and we're in our uniform. So he collided heads and he ain't got no helmet on. So he's in protocol. They don't know when he's coming out. So now you pair him. With sauce?
Starting point is 00:31:21 I don't know. Yeah, you put him in sauce. Now I don't know who's going to play the slot. Maybe Bynum goes to the slot. I think they're traded for another. I think they got added another play too. Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, can he more in the slot, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:31 or the nickel. So, hey, they got a nice, they got, hey, and they got Frank, Zaire Franklin, they got, they got a bad, they got a bad squad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Matter of fact, you know what? It's so funny, we understand who's making the calls over there with the coast now? Ballard. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:31:50 I think Jerry need to take some notes because I see somebody that's doing a much better job than he is. How would you, what you say by that, Joe? Hey, you got to chill,
Starting point is 00:31:59 man. I'm not chilling. I'm just saying. I'm, just saying we were seeing someone we're seeing someone you know in the rest of peace to the great mr ursay and someone actually taking over and in doing what a gym is supposed to do you know i mean i mean that's just me i'm just saying i mean i can see the daughters run it now huh the daughters run the team now yeah see they stay out of the way they say hey you do what you
Starting point is 00:32:24 do i'm just going to stay i'm gonna stay i'm gonna i'm gonna i want i want to know i just want to know when I hear a play and it don't go right, who effed up? Was it the quarterback? Was it the offensive line? Did the receiver not run the right route? Did the black, was the back supposed to pick up? I just need to know. Because a lot of times, you know, you look at a play like, oh, man, what happened?
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Starting point is 00:34:58 What's that now? What's up, what's up, Whack? Hey, Collet, man. Just chilling, man. All right. You went down and took care of business like you guys were supposed to. You beat the Bears with Hunt, and then you get a Lamar comes back for the dolphins. And this is how I'm thinking, this is what you thought you guys would go look like when you came into the season.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Not the previous six game, but this is how we're supposed to play. No, for sure. And I mean, I feel like that was just. you know, just everybody's just getting a reset after the by week. I mean, everybody knew, you know, back against the wall going into the bi week, what we put ourselves into. So coming out of the by week, we had just tell everybody, you know, it's a new season, and let's just be who we are.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I want to listen. I'm looking at you, and there are probably 25, 26, maybe even 27 other teams. You're going to get the line's up. You're going to start. All ain't no too tight, ain't no eight, ain't no this, ain't no that. You're going to be catching 65, 70, 80 balls. You're going to be a big part of the offense. But for you and Mark Andrews, you guys split a lot,
Starting point is 00:36:08 and a lot of times you guys do play a lot of double-tight-in sets. But how have you been able to say, you know what? I'm going to sacrifice. This is where I am right now. This is the best situation that I'm in right now. Let me make the most of it and not let your mind think, man, I see what Leport's are doing. I see what Hawkinson doing.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I see what the guys do I can do that For sure I mean that's really just You know Just always just remaining Where your feet are And understand that you know
Starting point is 00:36:35 God don't put you in no moment But where your feet are right now And I feel like this You know The circumstance I was You know just drafted where I was You know I promised EDC You know when he took me
Starting point is 00:36:45 Like all the other 31 teams That passed up on me They're going to regret playing me Time in time out You know And I was just you know The motto I had my whole You know rookie contract
Starting point is 00:36:55 And now I just getting into You know The opportunity that I have now is just really just being that test piece in the offense, whether I'm out wide in the slot, in the bat field, on the line, and being able to just run out of the set that we have out of the tight ends. That's dope. I mean, you guys, you know, you guys have a long way to climb yourselves out of a whole bit.
Starting point is 00:37:13 But if you can do it, you guys have the offense to do it, especially with, especially with Lamar Jackson coming, you know, coming back and you playing well, likely playing well. And a healthy Lamar gives you a chance to do the unthinkable. regards to what your record may be and I look at some of the games you have coming up I mean honestly looking at it you got a nice you got a nice slate of games and you can win most of them I think the most maybe the most difficult game will probably be the Vikings the Browns is winnable the Jets is win uh you're probably going to lose the Bengals guaranteed win you're probably
Starting point is 00:37:44 hey hey I put all my money hey Joe hey pull them out of the yellow I just want you at that one all the rest of these ones you talk about I just want you at that Cincinnati game I want you Yeah, I want you to come. I want you to do. Okay, hey, say less. I'm going to come. I'm going to come. But honestly, you know, when it, outside of the division, you know, you guys could probably run the table, I think,
Starting point is 00:38:07 but the Vikings being the most difficult game for you guys to play, you know, this upcoming Sunday outside of that. Listen, even as a bang of fan, I know a great team when I see one, you know. I know you guys have had your walls and your struggles on defense, but your identity has always been your offense and what Lamar Jackson is doing, what you're doing, what Mark Andrews is doing, the running game, Bateman, Z. A, so, I mean, kudos you guys, and I wish you guys luck climbing out that hole, but I just know when it comes to November 27th,
Starting point is 00:38:34 it ain't a too. I just want you there. I just want you there. That's a Sunday night game. I don't know why they keep putting them sorry. What you mean? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down. You two about sorry? Sorry? We had an 80-year-old quarterback come in and fiddling for
Starting point is 00:38:52 Joe Burrow and he threw up for 700,000 yards a game. What you mean? Sorry. Still losing. It's not about losing. It's about us having it. It's about us to have a... Listen, we want to win, but he gives us a chance to compete in these games, and we're scoring enough points.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's just we've got to get our defense to come around. That's the only problem. Man, go ahead and ask the question, Joe. Right, right. Hey, hey, likely. Hey, you know, we talk about the grind, bro. Probably, what's the hardest part of being a pro that you didn't expect? I really just say, you know, after you start making a couple of plays,
Starting point is 00:39:30 it's really just like getting really, like, put into that line. Like, everybody understands, like, when you, especially for me, coming from like a G5 school where it's like, you know, you making plays and everything, you know, you're kind of that guy on campus, but when you get into that big league, it's like, dang, you know, when you start making plays with the big league, it's like, okay, you got to watch you say here or you got to take pitches everywhere, here, here, people start knowing your name, people start knowing, like, who you are around.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And then it's like, you can, you can, if you could say like a little team thing the wrong way and everybody go and spin it it and like you just like you want to say something to correct yourself but it's like damn bro I don't want to keep acting like I'm trying to egg on a situation I don't really
Starting point is 00:40:08 care for and I feel like that's like the biggest thing probably since I got in the pros where it's like you got to watch what you say or like what you do a little extra definitely it's a lot different nowadays than when when I played in the NBA
Starting point is 00:40:23 Uncle Ocho play in the NFL because we ain't have all this social media You get, y'all exposed Y'all are exposed to so much, bro. Like, you know, I can understand how, you know, sometimes words may get twisted or, you know, it's just the little things. Like, any little thing you do,
Starting point is 00:40:40 they're going to scrutinize it and it's just kind of the times we're living in, you know? Yeah. Like, man, having been a Raven and they have that side of say, play like a Raven.
Starting point is 00:40:52 you know when you come in that building there is an expectation because of the greatness that has walked the halls of that building you got an Ed Reed, you got a Ray Lewis, you got a J-O, you got a Suggs, you got an
Starting point is 00:41:08 Ed Reed, you got Yandy, you got greatness that have played permeated. A lot of it's on the defensive side. They don't hold out of office. You got Jay Lou. Basically you got Jay Lou Jamal Lewis and Jonathan Ogden
Starting point is 00:41:24 but you know when you come into that building having talked to Oz and having talked to Eric of what they expect from you and what they expect once you get into that building talk a little bit about that when they drafted you and you get around
Starting point is 00:41:38 and the players come back the Ravens do a great job of bringing their old time of those players that played that made that organization great they do a great job of bringing them back and the guys do a great job of communicating of like hey bro hey we have expectations
Starting point is 00:41:51 win, play hard, play physical, play tough. Talk to us a little bit about that and you being great. Yeah, for sure. And I feel like, you know, everybody in the league understands, like, when you play the Ravens, their mantras play like Raven. That's just because, you know, how physical, how discipline and how hard they're going to play snap in and snap out. But I feel like the first, like, really wake up I had was Ricky Minicamp
Starting point is 00:42:13 on my Ricky year where it was like, we got in there. And they was already preaching play like Raven. You run around you. I'll say like Ricky Miniccan. get so many plays at one time you just try not to mess up so you over here kind of like trying to go 60% trying to see like on the other side they run the right concept trying to see and like the first thing that they told us was like if you wrong fly around and I was like hey whoa hold on like hold on they were like now like you wrong we'll we'll clean it up later play physical
Starting point is 00:42:40 play fast and like we'll we'll we'll clean a little details later so I'll say like you know just going into that mindset of understand that like now like when when I'm in the building you is expected to know your job and you expect it to win games and when you're 11. I feel like that's just the biggest thing that they tell you while you run in the building is when you're 11. And that's everybody's mantra while you're in the building. Like don't let your player make the play. Don't allow yourself to get stopped by the player in front of you.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Man, you got, I mean, look, Costa Carolina, a lot of people don't know about the Chanticleer's, but you had Josh Norman went to Coastal Carolina, Melissa Jackson Wood. Yeah, yeah. Carolina. Y'all got, y'all got a, y'all got, you little star coming out of coastal. Oh, hold on. Don't we, you know, a fellow receiver that played with me in Cincinnati, Jerome Simpson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, that was one that did the end zone. Yeah, my dog, window went there, yeah. Man, y'all put some, hey, y'all put some players out there in Costa, Carolina. What y'all got down there from? Man, I'm trying to tell, bro. When I tell you, my junior year, 20-20 COVID, that's probably like when we started, like, really, like, putting the world on notice. that like a G5 team could really come up in here.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Obviously Cincinnati had made the playoffs, but like we was like one of those teams that beat, we beat BYU that year. We had a good game at State. We beat at state that year. And like we started picking up games, picking up steam. I mean, we had a great quarterback in Grayson McCall. We had a great defense.
Starting point is 00:44:07 We got about two other players in the league right now that's playing currently, CJ Brewer and Taran Jackson on teams. And I feel like, you know, just, you know, that mantra that we had, like always understand that we're going to be the underdogs. what you're going to do about it. And from that aspect,
Starting point is 00:44:22 it was just like every game was going to be, you know, a doll fight and we wasn't expected to win a lot of games. So just going in there and showing the world that, like, you're going to have to put us above somebody
Starting point is 00:44:30 at some point. Right. What's it like playing with Lamar? I haven't played with a great quarterback a guy just in the pro football hall of fame. Do you ever just get in awe and just like, how that motherfucker does it?
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm not going to lie, it's sometimes, like, my coach had tell me on film, especially at like my rookie year, second year, you don't really understand the scramble part, like the two-played quarterbacks. Sometimes you'll get lost, watching Lamar back there,
Starting point is 00:44:57 you know, get out of sacks and get out of situations. And he yelling at you, like, trying to move you around. He's time to make time. Yeah. Get open. I say, like, a big instance was the Cincinnati, like my Cincinnati touchdown where he, where he stiff arm, Sam Hubbard.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Like, he had, from a snap. Yeah, yeah. Like, a lot of people don't know. Like, he's the one yelling at me, pointing. Like, before he threw the touchdown, he's, like, yelling at me, trying to tell me, go to the other side. I'm just in the back of the end zone tired
Starting point is 00:45:20 because we're in tempo offense. I'm just in the back of the end zone just throwing my hand up like, hey, bro, I don't feel like moving. Just throw it right here, bro. And he like, scream, like, no, bro. Like, I did all this work. You're going to move, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Like, move, going to the other way. Yeah. So, like, I'll say like that. It's just like, you know, it's crazy because you'll see him doing it in practice and you'll be like, man, like, ain't no way. Like, he just gets out here on Sundays
Starting point is 00:45:40 and do the same thing. But, like, at this point, it's just like, man, he's going to do it. So you might as well get open. Yeah. Hey, the funny thing about it, IEL, is being down here in Miami, you know, being able to watch Lamar Jackson back in the day and see what he's doing in the NFL and to look exactly like it did in high school
Starting point is 00:46:01 when it was at Boynton Beach. I used to go, I used to go watch and play all the time because, you know, you hear the names about the star players down here in high school and the first thing you want to do is, hey, let me go see what all this talk is about. and bro he was everything back then and he's still everything he was he was advertised to be you know especially now so to be able to see what he's doing right now man it's it's unbelievable um is it i mean it's dope it's dope and again for you guys you guys have a great chance you're all gonna y'all could have had one game one one y'all could have been the goddamn jess
Starting point is 00:46:36 i'm not gonna say that y'all can be the goddamn jess and if lamar jackson is coming back and he's healthy y'all got a goddamn chance that's just how good he is that's just how much of impact player he is so i'm excited for y'all i don't want y'all to beat us but outside of that i wish you're gonna beat y'all right we going to beat y'all we you're a bronco you are a bronco first of all you are all i know is that i got i'm a piece i'm a piece of that first person that's in the building yeah hey did you heard what you said you you were there for a small time it was i was there for two years, oh, too, damn. That wasn't but a one-night stand.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Like, come on, man. Also, I thought I had to... Hold on. There was a lot made last week. All teams have gaming. All teams have ping pong, pool tables. They play cards. They play mad.
Starting point is 00:47:27 They play card. And all of a sudden, you go to the game room and it's up. Ain't no pool table. Ain't no ping pong table. Ain't no video games. So you're like, man. Man, why are games at? What that ping pong table?
Starting point is 00:47:42 What that pool table? Who took that inch out of there? Oh, yeah, good. We didn't get that. Nah, that's great. It's a crazy story because what's crazy is we all play like pig on a little basketball hoop before practice just to like get, just to get, just to get chemistry going, just everybody get, you know, layers moving, everybody getting talking around.
Starting point is 00:48:01 And then like, like, Elle, I'll say like one thing about else. He don't shy away from nothing. So like he was like, hey, we lose this game. Ain't nothing going to be in here. I might turn the Wi-Fi off. Like the Wi-Fi might be cut. You know, the iPad, you can use the iPad without the Wi-Fi, as long as you in that building. So he was like, hey, I'm telling y'all.
Starting point is 00:48:19 So we had ended up, you know, falling short to Casey, show enough. Everything out of there. Ain't nothing in there. Wi-Fi's still on, though. But he was like, yeah, we came up in there. He's like, yeah, like, I wasn't playing. Ain't nothing in here. We're going to start winning a couple.
Starting point is 00:48:33 We're going to win some games. And I'll think about it. He didn't even say it's going to get back. He said, I'll let y'all know. Damn. That's the type of, yeah, that's the type of, yeah, that's the time of me. Winning is fun. Losing ain't no fun.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So what hell you play for? I'm trying to tell you. What you're excited about? Nah, hell, nah. And Eljack knows that the ultimate goal for y'all is to win a Super Bowl, bro. Yeah. It's Super Bowl or bust. So he knows distractions need to be limited.
Starting point is 00:49:00 So I commend him on that. That was big time. Y'all got to lock in. So, hey, look, y'all, if y'all lose a couple more games, now he's probably going to put that five balls. You got, we ain't got no more to give. We didn't, hey, everybody got this. That's all we had to give.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Hey. They'll tell us about the 17th annual Jimmy's famous seafood Tots for Tots for Toc Gala. Man, you know, just to give back to the kids. I mean, it's always, you know, a blessing to be in the position you are to, you know, have younger kids look up to you like a superhero. I mean, I remember when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:49:34 the ultimate goal was, you know, get to where I am now. So, you know, seeing kids, you know, that might not have it, you know, might be looking forward to it next year, just being able to, you know, be able to give it to them this year, be able to look in there, I take pictures, sign autographs, be able to spend a little time with them, you know, just to make day Christmas because I remember, you know, some Christmases where you didn't get everything you wanted,
Starting point is 00:49:56 but if I can give a kid, you know, something, you know, a smile, a something, oh my God, there's a Ravens player. I mean, that's just a blessing this guy, for real. Oh, yeah. Everything you want to hell, there's some Christmas you didn't get anything you wanted. man hey who took on my
Starting point is 00:50:13 Halloween party did y'all do a Halloween party no what I record was what I record is oh damn it ain't no fun
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm trying to tell you we had last year though hey ain't nothing to celebrate over there so who hosts the Halloween party Lamar
Starting point is 00:50:33 last year and who it was last year I want to say I want to say I want to say they and another vet hosted last year. It was lit though. But this year, yeah, we even, there wasn't even no, yeah, it wasn't even no talk about this year.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And I left it, I left it to them and they kept it going. And now y'all don't cut. Man, hey, look at, like, you got to get that thing. Y'all got to get that thing crunk back up, man. Hey, they need to worry about November 12th. They're talking about it. First of all, y'all are looking. Hey, Lamar, tell your family, don't even got to make no turkey.
Starting point is 00:51:09 because y'all playing the turkey over 27. Them bobs. All right. All right. Everybody, man, ain't nobody scared of y'all. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:51:19 They ain't what you talking about. He know that. Hey, oh, listen. Hey, Joe, hey, listen, it's a pass happy league, right? Any team that's putting up 500 points to 500 yards a game offensively,
Starting point is 00:51:30 there's a reason to be scared. There's a reason to be scared. Chicago ran for, damn there 300 yards on y'all. Derek Henry might set the NFL record. Lamar might have the most rush of yards by quarterback, they might rush for $500 on y'all. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like they're going to have three touchdowns. I guarantee that I got to, if the Ravens don't score at least 40 points on y'all, I might come do, I might, I ain't know telling what I'm liable to do. You know, I tell you what, I'll tell you what, make it light on yourself. Bet some. You ain't got, no, I ain't, hell up. Bet some. Did we talk about betting our own money?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Well, Joe $100. Ome $5,900. Hold on you. Hold on, hold on, oh, oh, my. I'm $100 and one up to two, man. I mean, we're in a whole new season. That made, that was last season, bro. Like, we're in a new season.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It's interest on this, oh, Joe. It's interest, baby. That's, hey, that's how I feel. We're going to get you out of this one. What do you guys need to do? You know, hey, look, the regular season, get yourself back into playoff contention and the win the division, that's fine and good.
Starting point is 00:52:36 But you know how you guys measure. when you got that guy that's a two-time league MVP, when you got arguably one of the top three quarterbacks in the NFL currently playing, and you have what you have offensively with King Henry got over 12,000 yards rushing and he got over 100 touchdowns. You know you measure by what you do in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:52:55 What is it going to take for the Ravens to get to another championship and get to that Super Bowl? Because ultimately that's how Lamar is going to be measured. He's got all the individual. He's been voted. player, the number one player by the players. He's been the all pro.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He's been an MVP. He has all the accolades. He knows ultimately that's how he's going to be made. Sure. And I'll say the first thing that we all talk about is just stop being ourselves. I mean, that's just, you know, the one thing that I can say at the top of my head that since I've been on the team, that's just what we've been doing. And I say whether it's offense, just turn the ball over, mental mistakes, mental errors,
Starting point is 00:53:32 you know, just stuff you can control and allowing the other team to just play their best game. against our best game and see how that go rather than us you know playing ourselves and playing the other team and then trying to make miracles happen and I feel like that's just you know been the mantra last couple of years where it's just like I feel like if we play you know our style of game play you know mistake free football and then just letting all of our talents you know offense and defense shine I feel like they ain't a team in the NFL that can play with us so you just you know just always just harping on the little things and harping on just stop being ourselves in the post of them.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Well, man, thanks for joining us tonight, like, congratulations on everything. Continue success. Stay healthy. Yes, sir. I want you to stay a Raymond, but, hey,
Starting point is 00:54:20 going to get you a body going out. You know 100-cats season out there, but he tied in. They catch an 80-9-100-mall, right? And you're like, shh. We're good, though. Man, continue success, man.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Stay healthy, man. Hey, y'all win that to be. Hey, please, if y'all don't do that. Wait, what? Y'all got them. Oh. I'm trying to tell you, come to the game, too. If Ocho's going to be out there popping it, come out to the game.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Hey, it's in Cincinnati, right? No, it's in Baltimore. No. I think whatever game, whatever game prime time, you and you're in the bank, Ocho. All right. All right. I'll be there. Hey, give me a sideline.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I want you out. Yeah. Who what? I just, hey, listen, I want to roam the sidelines of M&T Bank. I used to own that stadium. You had owned. Hey, I used to own that statement. Hey, that was before, that was, that was, that was after I left.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Because Cincinnati ain't run nothing. They didn't run nothing but their mouths. Like, appreciate it, man. Congratulations on all the success. Stay healthy, man. We'll see you down the road. All right, man. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Isaiah likely joining us. Ocho. What's happened? No, that game, that game is at M&T. Oh, it is? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. They play, y'all play them on the 14th in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Oh, November. Dan, we play them back to back? No, oh, Joe, December. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. How did you play them on the 14th? They play them on the 27th. You play them on the 27th of November and then you play them on the 14th of December. Yeah, I was just looking at the schedule, too.
Starting point is 00:55:57 You take ass whipping on both of them, but don't worry about it. Oh, Joe, Joe, I was after the Coast Acquire Sauce Gardner, the team announced that Gardner would continue to wear his number one with his new team. Josh Downs were number two. His brother, Caleb, plays for Ohio State. He also wears that number. The wire receiver said it was just a little small bit of negotiating between the sides,
Starting point is 00:56:18 the Jersey number handoff. Yeah, just a little friendly transaction, man, Down said new teammate wanted to make it easy on it. We appreciate him being here. I know he's been number one, and I know that number means a lot. Ocho, Joe, how much do you think a source had to play to get that number? I mean, for one, Joe, I mean, listen, we, a, a, a, a, a, we talk about sauce gardener huh you hear me we we talk about a number that
Starting point is 00:56:40 resonates for the individual with the new york jets 50k at least no he ain't 50k at least no hey if i'm josh down i ain't i ain't really doing him like that i'm not doing just off of respecting who you you know you you that boy this ain't no just no anybody now if it just know it's um it's a regular 50 k okay now we're talking you think you out there Hey, hey, hey, with the kind of money we're making, Joe, with the kind of money we're making. It's okay, 50K ain't bad. Hey, you're here, 50K ain't bad.
Starting point is 00:57:12 That's a good number, huh? Now, that, I can go with that. 50K, that's a lot, man. Listen, I know, listen, I know cats in the NBA, man, who had, you know, exchange numbers, and they may pay like 10, 15K, but it wasn't no 25, 35, 30K. Oh, yeah, it's coming up. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That's a good. good number, Joe. We got to get sauce on here to see and see what that transaction was. I don't think he paid no $50,000. Hey. Well, he don't want the number then. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe, hey that. Because you do know in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:57:47 the way it works now, if you change numbers and you don't give the NFL a whole offseason to get all that, because they'll stop. You got to pay for inventory. You have to pay for all the number to the ones that got your name on the back on that's been printed. Yeah, you got to pay the inventory. But what
Starting point is 00:58:02 if Downs was just being a great teammate. Yeah, he probably, he took a little, you know, he took a payment from him, but maybe he just wanted to get a sauce that number. 50K, that's being a great teammate. If I have an asshole, it costs you 150. Hey, I'm for the asking. Hey, I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:58:23 That's a good question. Especially today's day and age, when I think about the 50K, I remember, hell, when I went to the goddamn Patriots to get 85, I had to pay Aaron Hernandez. What you paid? I had to pay, oh, number 25. It was number 25,000, you know, that was, think about how long ago that's been, Joe. Yeah, that was, oh, that was, that was 15 years ago, Joe.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Yeah. And Aaron was like, what I'm saying is, uh, and then there's probably, he probably wanted, he probably wanted his paper. I'm saying Downs was probably willing to give up that one to go, uh, not with somebody got money. Depending on who it is, depending on who it is, it's respecting, oh, this sauce. I know the number one resonates with everything he's about based on who he is and all that, but this is by business.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Yeah, that's all. It's the NFL. It's about business. I need me some money. I got to make something off of this, you know? So I know Josh down probably, I'd say maybe 50. I bet, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Man, let me be in Atlanta had that number two. Hey, hey, Joe, you want that number two? Hey, you know, hey, Joe, man, I saw this what you call it, about, like, man, they got this, uh, uh, uh, what they call it? That, uh, that pickup, that four pickup. That Shelby, yeah, that Shelby. Hey, they got one up there and they're going to get that Shelby for you boy. The one with the black with the gray strap down the middle, Joe.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Man. Are you talking about like from the movie going to 60 seconds? Yeah, yeah, but it's a pickup truck. Oh, oh, a truck. Oh, okay, my bad. You're talking about, well, they got a Shelby, but that was Eleanor. That month's day with Eleanor. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Shelby, a, rest your soul, Cal Shelby, those cars, you talk about $3, $5, $7 million. Wait, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, come on, come on, come on, man. The original Cal Shelby? Oh, yeah, for sure. Rewind from me real quick and give me a better understanding. How's the car, what is what, what,
Starting point is 01:00:30 60s, 1960? What year? Yeah, 60s. How can a car in the 60s, made in the 60s, now be worth $5 or $7 million? Restore. They ain't made no more of them. Some of them best if they left alone because those cars were made for racing. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So think about the Ocho. The thing is, anytime they're not making more or something, it's really valuable. That's why the Mona Lisa is so valuable. That's why those original declaration of independence that Mr. Ursaid's trust is getting ready to sell. He has an original copy of the Declaration of Independence. Damn.
Starting point is 01:01:06 They have like 200 of them. Original? Original. He got one of the original copies of the, not a copy, the original copies. He got Prince Guitar, he got Grateful Dead, he got Jimmy Hendrix, he got Eric Clapton. Hold on. He got a Jimmy Hendrick guitar
Starting point is 01:01:24 and they're going to sell it? Yeah, they sell a lot of that stuff, yeah. Yeah, boy, they're going to get a pretty penny for that. That was his passion collecting. Okay, okay, okay. That wasn't their passion collecting. Right, okay, my bad, my bad. So, let, and he, that's what he said.
Starting point is 01:01:39 He's like, look, I understand it's only here, because I'm here, when I'm going, let somebody else enjoy it. Right. So, yeah, I totally get that. But I get it. Look, look, that one, I mean, it wouldn't even look right, sauce being in another number. No, it wouldn't. it wouldn't it wouldn't it just other players can leave team and change numbers and you don't blink eye you don't bad eye right a player like lamar yeah he can't be nothing a jama chase um a sauce
Starting point is 01:02:11 i mean where the number is is is a representative of who they are and when you see that number that's what you think about yeah you see the broncos did they talk to the tupucah family they took 18 out 18 nobody had worn them 18 right That's what Peyton was like, yes. I mean, can you imagine Peyton Manning in another number that's not 18? Yeah, it wouldn't make sense. Can you see Tom Brady in another number that's not 12? It wouldn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:02:38 No, I can't. So, I get it. Matter of fact, hey, Joe, can you imagine Ocho Sinko and another number that wasn't A5? No, I can't imagine. Yeah, see, AJ, uncle, it just don't make no sense. Well, you can't be Ocho Siko if you got on 83. free. Ocho Trace.
Starting point is 01:02:59 So you had you had to get that Ojo? Hey, hey. Ocho, they'll get you because you pay top dollar for that 85. Hey, listen, Aaron Hernandez, when I got the New England, he showed love.
Starting point is 01:03:12 He showed love and say, normally, if it wasn't you, you know, I'm hitched across the head. But because of you... He meant that literally, too, though. Huh? He meant that literally too, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:24 But, see, I mean, if you, if you, if you, see, y'all, y'all not, you're not on this in. But if you, if you knew him, if you knew him and how he was moving, like, stuff like that just doesn't occur because you're in the NFL. That's stuff that's been. Oh, he's been that. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, oh. A lot of people try to, a lot of people try to get away from there. Nah, he ran back to it.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah. But let me take that back. He never left it. Right. See, and that's the problem. That's where most of the time, you got to have someone else with the, brains around you when you're the golden goose and the golden goose rather rather try to stay to being real someone else has to step in nah man you good we don't need you to be real you you're done with this
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