Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ravens OT win, Jayden Daniels MVP, Davante Adams trade rumors

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap week 5 of the NFL season. Top stories include Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and the Baltimore Ravens thrilling OT win against Joe Burrow and the Ci...ncinnati Bengals, Washington Commanders rookie QB Jayden Daniels looking like an MVP candidate, Davante Adams trade rumors and much more!03:13 - Chiefs’ Rashee Rice Injury Status07:00- Davante Adams Trade Rumors13:30 - Jayden Daniels exceeds expectations19:15 - Ocho and Shannon speculate on Stefon Diggs gossip24:10 - Ravens beat Bengals in overtime38:10 - Unc is running out of words about Deshaun Watson50:30 - Bryce Young takes first snap in a game since being benched54:30 - Don’t you call Ocho delusional now58:45 - Packers suspend Romeo Doubs(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:51 See DKNG.com slash promos for deposit, wagering, and eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. The Chiefs head into the bye week 5-0 after a 26-13 victory over the New Orleans Saints. They're undefeated in their quest to be the first team in NFL history to win three straight Super Bowls. The Chiefs received some good news today, Ocho, regarding Rasheed Rice's status. Ian Rappaport reported that Rice's LCL may be the only ligament that needs to be repaired. Schefter reported it's unlikely Chief Rasheed Rice will play again this season, but doctors will not know for sure until they do the surgery.
Starting point is 00:03:33 He's going under anesthesia. They're going to look around and see what they find and what they repair will determine the extent of the injury and how much downtime. What should the Chiefs do? Hey, Tyreek. Hey, Miami. Y'all want to trade us Tyreek back? I'm going to Tyreek first because he knows the offense.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I like it, but they don't need to. Not based off what I saw tonight. Not based off what I saw tonight. You don't need to. Oh, no, no. That's not good enough, Ochoa. That's not good enough. I don't know if you'll beat the Ravens again. But they only got Xavier Worthy.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Tyreek is that fear factor. You already got the fear factor. Hey. I won't. No, see, he's scared. He ain't the boogeyman. I want the boogeyman. I want you afraid to come outside.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I want to. You see. Hey, man, you got Tyreek. That ain you afraid to come outside. I want to be. Hey, man, you got Tyree. Now that I think about it, could you imagine a team? Now think about when Hollywood Brown come back. Think about if they did get Tyree. Think about and Xavier Worthy at the same time. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So matter of fact, you know what? If Tyree was to come back, just say hypothetically speaking. That's what I need. How about we just hand him the goddamn Lombardi now? Okay. Because you're not stopping that. You're not stopping that. I don't think there's a defense or a scheme or a team that is put together well enough, has the personnel, to stop something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:01 No. No. So you reach out to Miami, see if they're interested with Tyreek. Then I'll probably go. You're trying to create a team. I don't. But here's the. No,
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm just saying. Closed mouth don't get fed. Now, Jerry said he thought Derrick Henry was too expensive, but did he see? That's like you going to the club or something, and that fine girl over there, man, she probably got somebody. But listen, if you see that fine girl over there, you'd never forget the game of soccer. Just because there's a goalie in net doesn't mean you can't score.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Exactly. So go over there and ask her. Guess what? She might be on the out. They might have just broke up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He might have done some flosh. That's one thing about it. She want a lick back.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We'll get that lick back. And she probably all she can do is tell me that. Man, you know how many times I've been told no. But I want to hear her say it though. You like that? You know,
Starting point is 00:06:17 you know, no, I'm not. No, no. Do you know how many times I was told no that I ain't gonna be ish that I ain't gonna do nothing. No, I'm not. No. No. Do you know how many times I was told no, that I ain't going to be ish? That I ain't going to do nothing? And if you go to college, you ain't going to do what you did in high school. And if you go to the NFL, I done been told no.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It ain't no thing to me. But hey, guess what? She say, yeah. Man, I be clicking my heels like Dorothy. Rumors surrounding Devontae Adams and talks of him being traded away from Las Vegas are ramping up. According to Kay Adams, he will not be on our show Tuesday as originally scheduled. She tweeted, oh boy, lots happening at the moment with our guy Adams. He won't be on tomorrow. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Stay tuned. Today, Adam, she has to name the Jets. The Saints are the most likely landing spots for Devontae Adams' services. I mean, it makes the most sense. We know why the Saints, but I don't think the best fit for him would be the Saints, being that they have their targets already in Olave and Rasheed Shaheed. But what makes sense to me to help bolster that offense over New York is Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it just it makes the most sense, you know, and I think if he is to come, I think he will restructure and promising that he'll be there obviously more than one year
Starting point is 00:07:45 because I think Aaron will probably come back another year as well because of the injury the previous year. The writing is on the wall. The writing is on the wall. I'm sure Aaron, behind closed doors, is trying to do everything he can to get
Starting point is 00:08:01 the Jets to get Devontae on down there, and it gives them a chance. It gives them a chance. I think if you have Aaron Rodgers, you brought him there for a reason, so you might as well give him all the tools you want to to see how far you guys can go. The AFC East right now, I mean, it's up for grabs.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's up for grabs, so why not improve your offense and go take it? All that being said, Aaron's going to have to play better than Ocho. Oh yeah, yeah, most definitely. He's not playing well. Especially based on what we saw last night. And the week before against the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:08:33 He hasn't played well. Even if you go back to the first game, he played well in one game, but other than that, he hadn't played well. He's going to have to play better because remember Ocho he was supposed to be the reason why they're winning, not why they're losing.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And so their defense is isn't historically great, but they're playing well enough. He's not holding up his end of the deal. I'm not breaking news guys. This is not an Amber Alert where Shannon Sharpe is breaking news about Aaron Rodgers being bad.
Starting point is 00:09:08 He's not playing well. And we can acknowledge that. A lot of people don't want to acknowledge that. But I think athletes want you to be honest with them. I believe you can be honest without beating them over the head. It's okay. Yeah. And the funny thing
Starting point is 00:09:23 about it is, you know what I like about Aaron? Which I think most of the time, or maybe he doesn't, he took accountability for that. He said he has to play well. I mean, he said that most times they deflect and point the fingers at other people, you know, but the fact that he was able to take
Starting point is 00:09:40 accountability, you know what, I didn't play well. I didn't play like myself. So, I mean, we're going to see what happens. I'm not sure who they're playing. I'm not sure who the Jets are playing next, but you know what? I didn't play well. I didn't play like myself. We're going to see what happens. I'm not sure who they're playing. I'm not sure who the Jets are playing next, but hopefully, he has a better showing. Is the Lions going to have a fire sale? What about Max Crosby?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Does he want to stay? Does he want out? Yeah. Good boy. They must run. Somebody get him. Can you imagine? He'll raise Ojo. Can you imagine? He'll raise Ojo. Big time.
Starting point is 00:10:10 He reminds me of Jared Allen. You remember Jared Allen? I was just getting ready to say Jared Allen. Remember every time Jared Allen got a sack, he would steal the count and tie him up. Kansas City and Minnesota. I think he played one year in Carolina too,
Starting point is 00:10:26 but that's where he cut. That's where he made a name for himself with Kansas city and, uh, and Minnesota. But, uh, well, look,
Starting point is 00:10:34 I just won't, I won't, uh, Devante to, uh, to get somewhere where he can, you know, play out his last.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Cause what? He got two more years left on that contract. He's in the third year of a five-year deal. Right. So he needs to get somewhere uh and uh obviously he's gonna you know look at for what shepter is reporting it looks like the jets and saints yeah and listen it needs to happen sooner than later too it needs to happen sooner than later. Yeah. It needs to happen sooner than later. On the most recent podcast, Michael Parsons said he thinks the Jets is where Devante is going to land. I think that relationship
Starting point is 00:11:17 with the Jets is going to come to life. Michael said that Devante brings a winning culture after predicting that he would head to New York. Yeah, I like it. It makes the most sense. I mean, it just makes the most sense. If it's another team outside of that, to me, I mean, it just, I just, I don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I wouldn't understand it. But the fact that it got out, Ocho, that he waltzed out, he's brought down, he suppressed his value because I know you got to get rid of him. See, Ocho, anything he wants out, he's brought down, he's suppressed his value, because I know you got to get rid of him. See, Ocho, anything I know you're trying to sell, I ain't finna give you, I'm not finna give you market price for it, because I know you got to get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Because you know why I know you got to get rid of him? Because he wants out, and he'll cause you problem if he doesn't get out. Not publicly, not going to do anything, but remember, and I told you off the air, said i believe ap was talking about davante adams when he said guys are making business decisions and we will make business decision moving forward right i believe i could be totally wrong but i believe that's what
Starting point is 00:12:18 he was talking about yeah i'm not i'm not sure ain't no telling because i wasn't able to see the film i think if i was able to see the film i think if i was able to see the film i'd be able to tell you exactly who was making those business decisions and and uh what would that happen the tweet davante adams played his last game uh somebody for that either runs his account or ap right like that. Oh, that's right. That's right. I know you're talking about it. Yeah, yeah. I remember that. I remember that. If somebody's saying something
Starting point is 00:12:51 about Ocho and somebody from Rail account like that tweet, you're like, hold on. Rail, you like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had to have a little conversation we'll be on we'll be on sister yeah we'll be on you like it they they they
Starting point is 00:13:14 talking reckless out here about your boy and you like that tweet yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you got something you want to tell me the commander's quarterback jayden daniels has exceeded expectations to begin his rookie season including those from his own teammate terry mcclory talked about the quarterback's hot start with albert bruce saying i did not anticipate him coming in and hitting the ground running like that i played with a few quarterbacks and definitely a few rookies um sometimes it takes some time to get comfortable in an nfl system not just at practice. Then you go into the game and it's a different animal. What's always encouraged me about him is his ability to get better every day in practice.
Starting point is 00:13:52 When we would have a so-so practice, the next day he would not make the same mistakes twice. Same thing in joint practice. Then you get into the game and you see him getting better each and every week. I think it's a testament to the experience that he had in college, but it's also his preparation. He puts in that dude who works so hard. He's always prepared.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah. I think it also has to do with where he came, where he came, what school he came, what school he's coming from being, being under the big lights, being an LSU used to the large crowds, coming from a college team that is preparing you for the next level anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:33 So all you had to do was do just that, hit the ground running. Based on everything you've taken from there, everything you've learned since your adolescence, since you've been playing quarterback, you come on to the NFL, you put the right people around you. If you're in the right situation, you get what you're getting from Jane Daniels at such an early age, even as a rookie. But he had 55 starts, so Joe, do you know how many starts that he has in college? Yeah, yeah. That's a good thing. Most college quarterbacks, their red shirt, play two years, they gone.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. That's why he looked the way he did. Let's just say, if you play for the national championship, you're probably playing 14 to 15 games. Obviously, he didn't play for the national championship. So he's playing,
Starting point is 00:15:16 basically, he's been a starter ever since he walked into college. Yeah. To get that many starts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, that many starts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, it's extremely impressive.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It goes to show you the work that he's put in. Daniels is completing 77.1% of his passes, the highest among all starting quarterbacks. He set a single-game rookie completion record during Washington's 3-3 win over the Bengals, connected on 91.3%
Starting point is 00:15:46 of his throws young boy look like he's been there before man that's the only way him and him and him and CJ Shroud they look like they've been there before they do and if you can believe this he's playing better than CJ did last
Starting point is 00:16:03 year because CJ didn't pick up his play to like week three, week four, week five. This joker came out the gate. Gerard Mayo had a noticeably different tone about his quarterback room after week five. Many have wondered if when he'll make the change from veteran quarterback Jacoby Brissett to rookie Drake May. Last week when Mayo was asked about the possibility of a quarterback change, he said, Jacoby is a 100% off starter.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Today, he said, every single day, we're all being evaluated, and it's no different now. The Patriots have fallen to 1-4 on the season after dropping their fourth consecutive game on Sunday. In the loss to Miami, the New England mustered just 10 points while Jacoby Brissett completed 18 of 34 passes, 160 yards. Ocho, in the words of Sam Cook, I would hope not that
Starting point is 00:16:55 Jacoby Brissett can't get it done as a veteran. Don't put your rookie quarterback out there. Don't put your rookie quarterback out there like things are going to miraculously change just because he's at the helm. He's a rookie. He's a rookie quarterback out there. Don't put your rookie quarterback out there like things are going to miraculously change just because he's at the helm. He's a rookie. He's a rookie for a reason.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Now, TJ Shroud, different. Jayden Daniels, different. Understand what they have around them to make that offense go. Hell, if you change some of the weaponry for Jacoby Brissett, I'm sure things will be different. You're one and four. You're one and four for a reason. You're one and four for a reason. You're 1-4 for a reason,
Starting point is 00:17:25 and I don't think chaining to a rookie as a quarterback ain't going to change much of anything. Now, you might want to... I was just going to say that. Now, you might want to stick him out there. Let that man get some experience. Get them that experience, but you know what happened with experience, too? You know what that's going to happen to him?
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. Yes, but one thing about it, if you're going to take those bumps, you got to leave him in there. You got to, once you make that change, you can't go back there. Oh, yeah. Once you go to Drake May, oh, yeah, he's a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:18:02 He's a quarterback for the rest of the year. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Ocho, Kyler Murray announced a partnership with Cod, C-O-D, Call of Duty. In a statement, Kyler said, to the trolls who mean me into the bag, thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'm officially enlarging my Call of Duty partnership. We talked about Kyler so much. People made complaints about him playing a video game so much. It drove him right into right into a sponsorship right into an endorsement which that's a good thing that's a good thing because the way he's playing right now yeah young fella go ahead man you can play a little you can play a little cod you can play a little play play a little video game just get the ball to marvin harrison jr baby that's all you got to do. He's playing good. He's playing good.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Okay. Go ahead. What happened? You all right? I don't even know what to do with this. I... The A6 made the news today for a very interesting reason i know steph according to academic i'm telling you steph if i don't get my asics that you collab with i promise you you're gonna get
Starting point is 00:19:15 with james harris gonna get i'm telling you i'm telling you i want my ace i wear i'm a ten and a half well it's being reported that this thing Stefan he stepped off in something it's being reported that allegedly Cardi B cheated on Offset with Stefan Diggs while she was eight months pregnant we weren't even there
Starting point is 00:19:40 we weren't there you can't believe that you can't believe that I don't know Ocho Ocho I don't know about Ocho your woman, your wife your significant other, your girl pregnant
Starting point is 00:19:57 that's one thing but eight months somebody else girl I don't believe it I think it's just that a rumor Steph wouldn't do that oh he wouldn't do that huh
Starting point is 00:20:10 I'm just saying well hey if that's the case he got the right last name D because he would dig it my bad Ocho my bad Ocho my bad my bad Ocho my bad Ocho my bad that was a nice layup too soon Ocho. My bad, Ocho. My bad. My bad. My bad. Ocho, my bad. That was a nice layup.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That was a nice layup. Too soon, Ocho. Too soon. Yeah, I don't... I just don't know, Ocho. I just don't know. Steph wouldn't do nothing like that, man. He wouldn't do nothing like that. He wouldn't do nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Like, that's just... Come on, man. I don't even like the rumor. I don't like the person that even started the rumor to really step on, you know, and assassinate his character like that anyway in the first place. You trying my dog to talk about,
Starting point is 00:20:56 he, come on, man. Man, little bro don't even get down like that. You feel me? Eight months? No. Now, listen, maybe if you you maybe yeah yeah i'm gonna move on that's a different story you know uh stefan diggs is like um he's like the zack like like zack zack efron in his prime you know all all the women all the women love him you know all the
Starting point is 00:21:23 women love him you know you, he's very fashionable. He's charismatic. He has a good personality. You know, I mean, he's shit. You know, he has his opportunities and can, even if there's a goalie in net, he can score. You know, he's one of those. He can score. So, you know, I just don't see it based on the situation and the circumstance at hand.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Eight months. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what, yeah. Maybe two, he don't know. That's one thing. But eight? Nah. Nah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Nah. But, hey, listen, Stephon, Stephon. listen, Stephon, he's going to have bigger problems. He's going to have bigger problems if I don't get them goddamn Asics. Shit. I ain't got time. Man, I've been working on these hands, too. Oh, okay. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the
Starting point is 00:23:59 right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. No one was let go.
Starting point is 00:24:46 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
Starting point is 00:25:11 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Ravens beat the Bengals in overtime, 41-38. Lamar Jackson spearheaded the comeback. Double digits multiple times in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But Lamar Jackson would not let this team lose. Lamar picked apart the banged up Bengals secondary to the tune of 348 yards. He also had passed for four touchdowns. And he rushed for 55 yards. In the first five periods of the game, the Ravens put up 520 yards
Starting point is 00:26:03 on 31st down. They needed every one of the big division win. After the game, the Ravens put up 520 yards on 31st down. They needed every one of the big division win. After the game, Burrow said it was frustrating that a team that started the year with title aspirations is nowhere close. We're not a championship-level team right now. We're not. I like to think that we'll come back and prove throughout the season to get to that point. But right now, we're not. We have to get it together.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Ochoa, do you want to play a change of playoff prediction? No, listen. We're in a hole. But right now, we're not. We have to get it together. Ochoa, do you want to change your playoff position? Listen, we in a hole, Unc. But we in a hole. I feel bad as a Bengal fan, as a Bengal player, as a former player. The game was good, though. Offensively, the game was good. It was good to see that offense look like it should have looked starting in week one. It was good to see that Bengals offense
Starting point is 00:26:45 look how they always look by the time you get to week three and so on. Defense, still a little shaky. Still a little shaky. Well, I mean, we shaky, shaky.
Starting point is 00:26:58 A little shaky? We shaky, shaky. I don't know what the statistics or the stats are, but we might be. When it comes to stopping the run or in the pass, we might be damn near at the bottom half of the league, at the bottom half of the league in both of those categories. But from an offensive standpoint, what you saw from T. Higgins today, what you saw from Yoshi,
Starting point is 00:27:18 what you saw from goddamn Jamar Chase, who's showing you that's why you pay him, even if he has two years on his contract, I can take the ball. I can take small smoke screens and take him 77 yards. I can go deep. I can do everything no matter where we at. Just put the ball in those hands. Then we get the overtime. When we get to overtime, you have a $250 million fucking quarterback.
Starting point is 00:27:47 That's not the time to play conservative. You put the ball in your $250 million quarterback's hands and allow him to win you the game when it matters most. Like you said, the game of football is all about moments. In a moment like that, in a game that you need to win an important division game you allow your $250 million quarterback to earn that goddamn check hold on all game all game
Starting point is 00:28:14 we've been very successful we dishing we dunking we doing everything but all of a sudden when it matters most everybody ass got tight you run the ball three times in a row dunking, we doing everything. But all of a sudden, when it matters most, everybody's ass got tight. You run the ball three times in a row. Hold on, now.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You run the ball three times in a row, right? And you put the pressure on McPherson to make a 50-yard field goal where you could have just ran a normal offense. You've been running all game. That's been working all game. Open up your playbook. You got your quarterback. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I was hot. Why are we conservative and we supposed to be trying to win the game? You already won in three. Throw the kitchen sink at them motherfuckers, man. It's all time. Run your offense. Damn. That's how you feel? Golly.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm looking at some of the goddamn stats. Hey, touchdown passes,e burrow 12 he leading the nfl passer rating joe burrow first 113.8 he's leading the nfl and completion percentage joe burrow 72.2 he's second pass charge He's third. 40-plus completions. Yardage. He's tied for first. So what does that tell you? What does that tell you just based off the stats
Starting point is 00:29:34 and what he's doing at the quarterback position despite it not reflecting what the record may show? When he has the ball in his hands, he's getting it done from a quarterback perspective. It's just not enough because we motherfucking want it for. But again, in overtime, what do we do? We take the ball out of the man's hands and we give it to the running back. Three times.
Starting point is 00:29:55 First down, second down, third down. Are we not trying to win the game? Are we running the ball? Why play conservative in that? Come on, man. At least give us a chance. At least give us a chance. At least give us a chance. I mean, we paid him that
Starting point is 00:30:09 kind of money for a reason. Can I ask you a question? What role did that interception play in the Ravens getting back into this ballgame and getting into overtime? It played a big role. It played a big role. It played a big role. It played a big role.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I'm going to be honest with you. Listen, when you say something, are we going to gloss over that? I'm wishing you were right. You can't make those kind of mistakes. You can't make those kind of costly mistakes. And the fact that they made that mistake, I think that's another reason why they took the ball out of his hands and ran the goddamn ball to overtime to make sure
Starting point is 00:30:43 the mistake didn't happen again. What do I do? So why? I just want to know why people are mad at me because I point things out. Right. From a play call. I just want to know why y'all mad at me. So, oh, he got five touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Okay. Ocho, you know your defense currently is not playing very good. The last thing you can do is turn that ball over. You can't do that. So now, keep moving it. Keep moving the ball down the field. Even if you settle for a field goal, now they need a touchdown to beat you as opposed to a field goal to tie you.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Five touchdowns, yes, he's playing well. The difference is, what, are you going to blame Joe Burrow? Last week, he settled for field goals. He got two field goals before he got those three touchdowns. The Washington Commanders got touchdowns. When he was getting field goals, they were getting touchdowns. That's the difference, okay? They had two double-digit
Starting point is 00:31:48 leads in the fourth quarter. At one point in time, the score was 24 to 10. 24-14. Let me take that back. 24-14. 24-14. Because the Ravens, it was 14-9. They got a touchdown to what? Yes, it was 24-14 in the fourth quarter. And Lamar Jackson went into that phone booth,
Starting point is 00:32:09 changed into that cape, and became Superman again. At some point in time, Ocho, you can look at the numbers. We used to kill Peyton. Peyton had gaudy numbers every year. And everybody would say, stats are for losers. Because Tom Brady would throw for 200 yards and win the ball game. Peyton have 300. Peyton would play a team.
Starting point is 00:32:32 He'd throw for 300, 400 yards. They'd lose. Stats are for losers. But it's funny how it changed if we like somebody. Joe Burrow is a very likable guy. I've met him a couple of times. He's great. He's a great young man.
Starting point is 00:32:47 But at the end of the day, Ocho, you know what it comes down to. You can't make those kinds of mistakes that he made knowing that my defense is not very good currently. Because think about it. If they're going up and down the field driving 70 and 80 yards, what the hell do you think you're going to do if you put them on a short field? Yeah. They're going to get the ball to end zone. They got very conservative. He scared them. Zach Taylor got scared. He turned
Starting point is 00:33:11 the ball over late in the fourth quarter. They tied the ball game. And now, instead of, Ocho, instead of going for it. But you can't do that, though. They pulled the rage back. From a coaching standpoint, I'm in no position because I ain't no goddamn coach.
Starting point is 00:33:28 All I do is play goddamn Madden. But from the outside looking and understanding how we're doing as a team collectively, understand how our defense is not really playing well. They're not playing well. They're not playing well against the run. They're not playing well against the pass. Who do I put the ball? Who do I put?
Starting point is 00:33:46 You put it in his head. Even with the mistake. Even with the mistake with the turnover in the fourth quarter. You have no choice. There's a reason we paid him the money we paid him because at times like that, in moments like this, when we need a win, you put it in his hands.
Starting point is 00:34:02 The offense has been looking good all goddamn day. just run your regular offense huh you can't you can't pull the reins and then have your ass tight when it matters most because that gets you beat that got us beat even with the even with the pick we had the opportunity to win the game i mean joe was 30 of 39, 392, five touchdowns. He normally plays well against the Ravens. I think he has a 500-yard passing day. He has a 400-something-yard passing day.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So he normally plays well. But in that situation, in your running game, Ocho, 23 for 71, you really haven't. Now, I'm not saying it's not going to get better, but as of right now, you haven't replaced Joe Mixon. What he gave you in the run game, you had a couple of false starts that set you back. Behind the eight ball killed some of your momentum.
Starting point is 00:34:54 But you just got to find a way to win these games. Tee and Chase were unbelievable. They had 276 yards combined on 19. They had 16 targets. No, they had 12. 26 targets. 19 catches. 276 and four touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah. Well, your star guys, skilled position players, they did what they were supposed to be. They did what they were supposed to do. They did the thing. Yeah. Sometimes it comes down to one play,
Starting point is 00:35:21 an interception. Now, because you probably, you might have could have run the clock out because the one thing I don't want to have happen with the way I see Lamar Jackson playing, I don't want to give him the ball back, Coach Joe. I don't want to give it back to him.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It's the guy, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrell, Patrick Mahomes, guys like that. Okay, hold up, man. Damn, they done came back. They only one score down. We can't give him that ball back. He going to find a way. Now, first of Man, damn. They done came back. They only one score down. We can't give him that ball back. He going to find a way. Now, first of all, you got – that was a face mask on Andrews.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You got face masks. And the referee standing right there. He came up off of the face mask. Andrews is doing his thing. He's getting tackled. I think it was Pratt making the tackle, huh? No, not that dude. Yeah, I think he just got –
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. He was making the tackle. Andrew? Nah, not that dude. Yeah, I think he just got... Yeah. He was making a tackle. Andrew was screaming. Right. Andrew's got the ball in one hand. He face-masked me. He face-masked me.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That hurt, though. But it was a very exciting game. This is what, you know, it was a shootout in the AFC North. We don't normally get games like this. It's normally a black and blue division. It's normally more physical. But when you got these type of quarterbacks,
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Starting point is 00:37:17 Today's most electric touchdown play of the day came deep in the fourth quarter, and your courtesy, we can't show it because we're not paying $2 million to show you this video. Lamar Jackson bobbled the snap. He stiff-armed Sam Hubbard not once but twice as he's running, rolling, off-balance, falling out of
Starting point is 00:37:37 bounds. He discarded a pass rusher, took a shot to the face, extended the play and threw a touchdown pass to Isaiah Likely. How, Lamar? How? Listen, I tweeted it too. You saw LJ. I tweeted it too. When the game was going, I said, well, God
Starting point is 00:37:54 damn it. Lamar just won't go away. That young boy is unbelievable. I've been watching Lamar. He was at Boynton Beach High School. I used to go and watch just to see. He was a superstar. He was a superstar back then Beach High School. I used to go and watch just to see. He was a superstar. He was a superstar back then. What are you doing in the NFL now?
Starting point is 00:38:10 I've been seeing that before he even got to Louisville. He was doing the same thing at Boynton Beach. But he's the real deal, man. Man, that hurt, man. We had an opportunity. We had it right here. It was in our hands.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And I was at Twin Peaks. I watched the football game at Twin Peaks because they put on multiple TVs for the 1 o'clock games at once so I can enjoy them, right? There was a table of Ravens fans that sat adjacent to me to where I was sitting, about two, three tables over. And every time we made a play, I look on down there. I look on down there. I look on down there.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I ain't talking no trash now. I ain't talking no trash because I ain't want to put my foot in my mouth. And when we recovered that fumble, when we recovered that fumble in overtime, I told the waitress, I was like, Miss, you can put this Coke with no ice. You can give me a to-go cup, a styrofoam cup. Right before they kicked the ball, I went over to their section, and I sat there, and I just smiled. I ain't even saying that.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I just smiled because we finna get this kick, and we finna win. When that goddamn placeholder bobbled that snap, and all them Raven fans went crazy, I was hurt. That hurt. That hurt. That hurt. Yeah. Because, you know, the momentum swung. You guys had the momentum after Lamar Fulmer, the ball in overtime.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Now you guys got the momentum. Heartbreaker. Ochoa, I don't know what to say about Deshaun, bro. I'm running out of words, Ochoa. At some point in time, Ocho, this has got to stop now. Cleveland hasn't topped more than 18 points in a game this season.
Starting point is 00:39:50 The Browns enter Week 5 with the worst third down offense in the NFL. And they failed. They failed to convert all 12 of their third down attempts today with Deshaun in the game. Hey, I got a question. Ocho, at some point in time, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:40:07 What? What's the issue? What's the issue? Is it mental? Is it the play calling? I mean, what do you think it is? And I'm confused. I've been watching football
Starting point is 00:40:20 for a long time. For a very long time. And in the nosedive, in the nosedive that I've been watching football for a long time, for a very long time. And in the nosedive, in the nosedive that that I've seen from a personal standpoint of arguably maybe a top three quarterback when he was with with the Texans to what the version of the Sean Jackson, the version of the Sean Watson I'm seeing now. That's how in such a short amount of time. How? Barring an injury, the only time Ocho I can say I've seen this kind of drop off from any kind of player. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:41:01 It's through injury. Injury. If you have a significant injury, that would explain it. I could offer you, Ocho, man, you know the man, he tore his patella tendon. Ocho, you know the man tore his Achilles. He had back-to-back ACL surgery. Ocho, he almost had his shoulder ripped off the bone. So that would explain the cataclysmic drop in his play.
Starting point is 00:41:24 But I don't see an injury that would cause it. It's mental. It's mental, huh? This is up here. Listen, do you know how hard that is to get back, especially at that position? At the quarterback position? Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yes. If you messed up mentally here and at the quarterback position, you got the ball in your hands every time. So your judgment and your mind, it already got to be clear because if your judgment and your mind and you're not healthy as well on top of that, you'll never be able to
Starting point is 00:41:56 play well. You'll never be able to excel with that position. I was thinking about it. I'm looking at I'm thinking about it early today. Well, goddamn, I'm looking at, well'm thinking about it early. Well, God damn. I'm looking at, well, Dan,
Starting point is 00:42:06 the Browns got a Mark Cooper. You got Nick. You got Nick Chubb coming back soon. Maybe, I think maybe two weeks, maybe, maybe one more. And Joku and Joku.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Elijah. You bought him a young bull. Damn. Why? Why? I'm going blank right now. You got, you bought him a young bull. Damn, why am I going blank right now? You bought him a young bull, Jerry Judy, you know? I'm like, okay, we good. We good. I'm talking about we good. I'm just saying as a fan, as a fan of Deshaun Watson,
Starting point is 00:42:39 as a fan of some of these young bulls over there, man, that I enjoy watching, I'm like, okay, they're going to compete. They're going to compete. They're going to have a chance, you know, in the AFC North. And it's just, it's not what I envision based on what I've seen in the past. And I really can't put, I can't put my hands on it, on
Starting point is 00:42:57 why they look the way they do. He don't even move the same. Ocho, he don't even move the same. He don't look the same in the pocket and I think you know look I'm not here to try to rehash and rethink
Starting point is 00:43:14 anything but I think that that weighed a lot on his mind I think it weighed a hell of a lot on his mind and he hasn't been the same and I think it weighed a hell of a lot on his mind. And he hasn't been the same. And I think everybody knows that. I'm not breaking. Ocho, you and I are not breaking news.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Everybody knows. I saw the guy. His last year starting in Houston, he led the NFL in passing yards. He did that. I'm not so sure Deshaun, he's a 28, 29, 30, 31st, 32nd. He's a bottom five quarterback currently. Look at Joe Flacco in Indy.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Look at what Joe Flacco did in Cleveland. Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco is, if I'm not mistaken, I think I read this, is eight days younger than Anthony Richardson Monk. Hey, Joe that old?
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yes! Yes! It's because I think sometimes, Ocho, when you have Yeah. an image and and then all of a sudden that image is not what was being portrayed and people start to like you start to think how do they how do they look at me now how do they perceive me
Starting point is 00:44:46 and that plays with you because you're out in the public it's if somebody I would have been so I'd have lost a lot of money Ocho if somebody would have said Shannon he's never going to be the same again I said man're out your mind. I said, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Starting point is 00:45:08 hold on. I'm like, hold on. Is he going to have... Shannon, he's not going to have a career-threatening injury. He's not going to have anything. Nope. He's just not going to be the same. I would have bet it with the quickness, too. I know what I've seen from him. I know what I've seen. And I've just
Starting point is 00:45:23 never seen a performance decline in such a fast rate. Especially when you have a better supporting cast than what you had in Houston. And he's young.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Also, it wasn't like he's 30 Deshaun is 30 is he 30 he came because he came out he's 29 I got a better question for you he just turned 29 Ocho how do we get him back to the old Deshaun
Starting point is 00:45:57 how do we fix the problem how do we fix the issues let me ask you a question in professional sports, when have you seen a guy have this kind of precipitous drop and bounce back up? Name the sport. Football, basketball,
Starting point is 00:46:15 baseball. Ain't never happened, huh? Yeah, man. It it's hard Ocho because so much of sports is physical yes we've seen guys that had talent but if you're weak-minded mentally that's where you have to be the strongest what do they say the best athletes have what the strongest. What do they say? The best athletes have what? The strongest mentality. You gotta be. That's everything. You have to have a self-belief that I'm the baddest mofo on this field, this
Starting point is 00:46:53 court, this diamond, this whatever the case may be. Whatever your avenue, this court, Serena, whatever your arena is, you have the mindset that I'm the baddest mofo here. Dang it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Because a lot... Bro, Tom Brady ain't the most talented quarterback. Not even close. He might not be in the top one as far as talent. I'm talking about physical talent. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:26 I'm talking about the ability to run, jump, arm strength. That's where they beat you at. That joke of mine. Drew Brees. That's where they beat you at, huh? They beat you upstairs. All that coach speak to Tom. Oh, man, that's a great time.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Listen, and I tend to tell people, how do you know? I said, I'm telling you how they think. Let me tell you, we did a lot of this too. They're going to tell you what a great team that is.
Starting point is 00:47:54 And they're really, really tough. They're really disciplined. They're really well coached, but in that closed door behind that meeting, Belichick is telling me we're going to kick their ass. And Tom Brady is in that meeting. Tell him at practice, we're going to kick their ass. And Tom Brady's in that meeting telling them at practice, we're going to
Starting point is 00:48:05 kick their ass. They don't deserve to be on the field, but we're going to keep hyping them up. He actually believed that. And what great leaders can do, they can convince others around them to believe just like they are. They believe just what Tom
Starting point is 00:48:22 was so great and so believable. Guys, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. Man, you hear what Tom said? Man, we're down 14. Tom said we're coming back. Yeah, we're coming back.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah, we're coming back. That's how it works. I don't think Deshaun, I don't think his, what happened, same thing. Look at Ben Simmons. Oh. Look at Ben Simmons in basketball, Locho.
Starting point is 00:48:55 All defensive, all star, all NBA, rookie of the year. Yeah, he got hurt, but his mentality was is that what happened in Philly. Y'all remember, I said it.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I said he's never going to be the same. His coach criticized him and the best player on the team criticized him. But stuff like that shouldn't break you. That's motivated right there. That's motivated. That's motivated. I ain't what I am.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Oh, Joe, but you have to what I you don't think oh okay bet let me ask you a question okay yeah hold on hold on what down what down it is okay
Starting point is 00:49:40 okay I'm lined up it's fourth and five no we're in the huddle no they call to play let's say we gonna call 200 jet X land that's you you the X no no but this what you do
Starting point is 00:49:56 you done lost your confidence so bad you like Carson so TJ the ball what what but fourth and five and you know it's fourth down and they finna play Hell nah. Go TJ the ball. You got hell nah. You got me. What? What, fourth and five? And you know it's four down and they finna play man to man?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Man. Stop saying that. You remember that game when they played Atlanta? They passed Ben Simmons the ball. Oh, hey, when he had to lay up and he passed it off? I remember the play exactly. See that? I remember that. You see that?
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Starting point is 00:53:59 Oh, so you mean to tell me the quarterback situation that don't change anything, huh? Huh. On the first play, he brought time and scrambled and found Miles Sanders open for a 27-yard game. Canales did a fantastic job and said Andy Dalton will remain the starter
Starting point is 00:54:13 for next week against the Falcons. After the game, Bryce Young asked if the current situation lit a fire putter here. Come on. What'd you think, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Politically correct. He's saying all the right things, but maybe that is just him, though. You can tell from his mannerism, the way he carries himself, that's just him. That's his personality, Ocho. Yeah, I see. I can see.
Starting point is 00:54:37 That's his personality. I can see. Cool dude. Real soft-spoken. Real soft-spoken. It just... I think he's going to get the opportunity again. I just hope his confidence is that whenever that opportunity presents itself, that he's ready mentally, you know? And I think it probably might be with the Panthers or if it's elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I hope he's ready. Well, until they get some weapons, they're like, don't put me back in there, because I ain't going to look no better, because Andy Dalton, look how Andy Dalton numbers with those weapons. And everybody, ooh, oh, Andy Dalton. Woo, look at Andy Dalton. We got a large
Starting point is 00:55:22 enough sample size to know what Andy Dalton is. Large enough. Plenty large. I don't care who the quarterback is. Ain't nobody, look at Andy Dalton. We got a large enough sample size to know what Andy Dalton is. Large enough. Plenty large. I don't care who the quarterback is. Ain't nobody. Look, you better be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady to make these receivers look good. They got some nice. I mean, they got some boys over there.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Now, once they get Adam Thielen back, they got Xavier Leggett. They got Mingo. You know, they got some boys. They got Deontay. Listen, they got De Leggett. They got Mingo. You know, they got some boys. They got Deontay. Listen, they got Deontay Johnson. He had one target, one catch. They got some nice, you know, some nice little pieces. They just got to put that shit together.
Starting point is 00:55:55 They got to put it together. And then when you have question marks at a quarterback position, that means the receiver position and the tight ends have to be that much better than the quarterback. It gotta be. It gotta be. And that's why he doesn't stand a chance. Because they're not nice, huh?
Starting point is 00:56:15 They're not that much better. He ain't throwing to Kelsey and Laporta and Kittle and guys like that. He's not throwing to Justin Jefferson and Chase and guys like that. Even if not throwing to Justin Jefferson and Chase and guys like that. Even if you want to go, even if you take those top 10 guys out and go to the next 10, what
Starting point is 00:56:31 guy, if I give you how many receivers you're going to go to before you take Deontay Johnson? Leg it, I get it, he's a rookie, but how many receivers and tight ends are you going to go through before you pick one off the Carolina roster? A bunch. That's rude.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It's the truth though. Rookies. Look at what CJ was throwing to. He had Nico tank Dale, Noah Brown as well. He had Dalton Schultz. He had Nico, Tank Dale, Noah Brown as well. He had Dalton Schultz. He had nice feet. Which one of those guys are better than any of the guys that I
Starting point is 00:57:12 named? On the Panthers? Yeah. Which one of those guys is better than Nico Collins, better than Tank Dale, better than Dalton Schultz, better than, hell, Noah Brown. Comparison is the thief of joy.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Yeah. And they stealing all the joy from Bryce Young because they ain't doing it-ish. I'm glad you brought that up. Bobby Jackson Jr. from Alabama. Bro, I appreciate the merch, Perch. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Thank you for supporting Nightcap.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It means a lot to us. Hopefully you really, obviously you really enjoy Nightcap because clearly you had to be up watching it. And it's uh they have near what two o'clock in the morning there they have me two three o'clock almost three o'clock and uh so bobby we really appreciate the merch perks uh thank you for your support and uh give us a hit let us know when you get the merch uh tim lee bingles will be 1-7, and Ocho will be saying,
Starting point is 00:58:26 man, we're going to the playoffs. The Cook, dude, you're delusional. I know. You're delusional. You're delusional. And we're going to the playoffs. What you talking about? You saw what we did today.
Starting point is 00:58:36 You see how that offense looks today. Listen, don't do that. Don't do that. Who was that? What was his name? What was the name? What was the name? Tim Lee. Okay, Tim Lee. You'll see. What was the name? What was the name? Tim Lee.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Okay, Tim Lee. You'll see. You'll see. Now we play the Giants next. We're going to beat the Giants. Then we play the Browns. We're going to beat the Browns. I'm not sure what the schedule is after that, but we're going to be all right.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And we make the playoffs. I'm going to make sure. Tim Lee, I'm going to remember you. I'm going to remember you. And when the Bengals make the playoffs and get up out of this hole and rise from the ashes, like the goddamn undertaker and make the playoffs, I'm going to find you.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You mean like a Phoenix? You mean like a Phoenix? What's the Phoenix? That's what rise from the ashes. Well, I was, I was, I was trying to insinuate how the undertaker comes about the grave or he,
Starting point is 00:59:24 he like, Oh, he's up inaker comes about the grave. Or he like. Oh, he stood up in the middle of the ring when he was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do. I mean, you keep. You know what I heard? I heard you say about the offense. I hear you mentioned that by that defense.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Oh, listen. All right. Our team, our identity is the offense. Now, Lou. Lou is going to do what he needs to do to make sure we play good enough. Good enough football. When?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Huh? When? I mean, listen, that's why we practice. I mean, you do realize y'all gave up, y'all gave up 41 to the Ravens. You gave up 33, 36 the week before to the Commanders. We talk about Lamar Jackson and Jaden Daniels. Two of the most efficient
Starting point is 01:00:13 quarterbacks in the NFL right now. Y'all got beat by Jacoby Brissett too. That was week one. You know week one don't count. It's a toss-up. Anybody can win week one. Ain't no telling what's going to happen week one. Who beat them the third week? OK to the city. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Again, we should have won. Matter of fact, our record does not state how good our team is. You look at us play today, and you look at our record, that's not who we are. It's not. It's just not. Tim Lee,
Starting point is 01:00:47 I'm going to find you. Matter of fact, I'm going to look for you on Twitter right now so I can talk shit. Don't come on my show and talk about I'm delusional. Packers' Romeo Dobbs was suspended one game for conduct detrimental to the team. The Packers
Starting point is 01:01:02 made the announcement shortly before they departed for Sunday's game at the Ram. The Packers made the announcement shortly before they departed for Sunday's game at the Ram. The suspension came after Dobbs missed two days of practice and meeting. The team initially explained the absence as for personal reasons, but Sports Illustrated reported that Dobbs was upset about his opportunities in the passing game. Packers GM Brian Gunekens.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Unfortunately, we had to make a difficult decision to suspend Romeo for this week passing game. Packers GM Brian Gunekens. Unfortunately, we had to make a difficult decision to suspend Romeo for this week's game. His decisions and actions during the week negatively impacted the team and required us to take this action. While we are certainly disappointed, we are confident that we'll be able to move forward in a positive manner. Romeo is a valuable member of our team and we look forward to welcoming him back next week. Dobbs ranked second on the team with 20 catches, 169 yards, but has yet to score a touchdown in four games.
Starting point is 01:01:55 In Love's return, Packers threw the ball 54 times. Eight of those were targeted to Dobbs, who caught four for 39 yards. Only one wide receiver, D'Antavion Wicks, with 13 targets, was thrown the ball more than Dobbs. Oh, Joe. Yes, sir. You mean to tell me guys really, like, really missed practice?
Starting point is 01:02:17 Guys get upset that I ain't got no targets, I ain't get no ball, they got no touchdowns? Right. And guys really miss practice? I don't know. Not be late to practice, missed the entire practice. It's hard to actually
Starting point is 01:02:30 know what exactly happened and a report coming out saying it. I mean, how truthful do you think that really is? Why would they suspend him then? Huh? Why would they suspend him? Because we don't know what he got suspended for. We don't know. Hold on. They said it was for personal reasons. When has somebody ever Because we don't know what he got suspended for. We don't. Hold on. They say, hold on.
Starting point is 01:02:46 They said it was for personal reasons. Right. When did somebody ever got suspended for personal reasons? It was somebody told them, Sports Illustrated broke the story. They said he missed skip practice. He skipped meetings because he was upset. I know, but I ain't. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Hold on. This is what the GM said. Unfortunately, we had to make a difficult decision to suspend Romeo for this week's game for his decisions and actions during the week that negatively
Starting point is 01:03:17 impacted the team and required us to take this action. Ocho, nothing else needs to be said. Oh, so you just, you using Sports Illustrated as your source? I'm using us to take this action. Ocho, nothing else needs to be said. Oh, so you just, you're using Sports Illustrated as your source? I'm using Brian Gunekis, the general manager. Based on what he said, what if he wasn't practicing and
Starting point is 01:03:33 he acted a fool in practice about not getting the ball? Ocho, come on, Ocho. At some point in time, Ocho, you gotta stop this. I get it. I'm asking a question. I'm not relying on fucking Sports Illustrated. I'm relying on Brian Gunnigan, the general manager. And I said maybe he acted a fool in practice and they had to suspend him for his conduct because he's not getting the ball.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Okay. Acting a fool in practice. I ain't getting the ball. You know how you act a fool? You know what? You can't be doing that while you're here. You got to go. Hold on. Now, you just told me last week when these reporters get stuff about Devontae, it's coming from somewhere.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Now, all of a sudden, it's not coming from anywhere. They made it up. That's not what you said. No, hold on. Hold on. Sports Illustrated? I'm not paying them as no source. You said when reporters say things, they're getting it from somewhere now they report this it came out of thin air and now brian gunikens the general manager said we had to make a difficult decision to suspend romeo for this week's game his decisions and his actions we this week negatively impacted the team and required us to take this action. And I guarantee the action you talk about,
Starting point is 01:04:49 it happened at practice. I guarantee you that. I guarantee you did. Let's bet. How much you want to bet? Let's bet. I'll tell you what I do. I'll tell you what I do.
Starting point is 01:04:57 If he didn't miss practice, you give me your salary. My who? If he didn't miss practice, bet your salary. Which salary? Which job? Bet your salary. My who? If he didn't miss practice, bet your salary. What salary? What job?
Starting point is 01:05:07 Bet your salary. What job? Whichever one you want to pick. Whatever show that you appear on, bet it. Okay, bet. No, no, no. Ain't no bullshit now. I'm real.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I'm talking real. Bet it. Nah, bet a thousand. No, I don't want no thousand fucking dollars. What did I ever do with a thousand dollars? A lot. I'll bet 500. I'll bet 500,000. Who?
Starting point is 01:05:31 I'll bet you $500,000. Why we can't bet a thousand? I don't want no thousand. What the hell I'm going to do with a thousand dollars? What you going to do with 500,000? Hell, I go upstairs right now and pull that out. What the hell I'm going to do with that? Well, see, I can pull it out too.
Starting point is 01:05:44 What you saying? Bet 500. I don't even gamble. You ain't got to gamble because you said it didn't happen like that. So that's not a gamble. I said, what if it didn't? I said, I wouldn't rely on Sports Illustrated for nothing. Bet 500 then.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Ocho, just think about it. You can be 500K just like that in a blink of an eye. No, no, no, no, no. I don't care about no money. I'm trying to figure out why you're so happy about what Sports Illustrated said. I'm talking about what Brian Gunnick is doing. Okay, and I said it's probably because of what he did at practice. Bet 500K then.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Why we bet money? I'll tell you what I do. I'll tell you what. No, no, no. I'll tell you what I do. I'll put up a million to your 500,000. No. Chat, y'all see
Starting point is 01:06:25 that? Hey. I'm going to cover you. I'm going to put up a million to your $500,000. Listen to me. Listen to me. Hey, Romeo Dobbs is in his second year, right? I don't know what year he is. He's in his second year. I mean, he's in his second year, right?
Starting point is 01:06:42 As-as-as, he's in his second year. What year is he in? Second or third? Third. Yeah, pulling some shit like that, that's a vet move, man. That's a vet move. Not showing up to practice. I can honestly say, I played 14 years.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I ain't never had a teammate. And the guys have been upset about playing time, about incentives, but I ain't never... Have guys been late for meetings? Yes. Have the guys been late for practice? Yes. But I'm talking about just skip that ish all together? I don't know. You got to be
Starting point is 01:07:17 that boy, too. You got to be that boy. Like Aaron Rodgers? Like that minicamp? Yeah, see? You got to be that boy to be able togers? Like that minicamp? Yeah, see? You got to be that boy to be able to pull some stuff like that off and nothing happened and have no disciplinary actions. Now, I'm a third-year receiver just not showing up for two days in a row? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Mm-mm. No. I mean, and then even if you're a guy like that, they probably won't suspend you, they're gonna take that game shit right right right you can play but I will take that money oh they gonna get something out you oh yeah for sure oh yeah
Starting point is 01:07:56 oh yeah because the thing is you gonna want to play I mean because you don't want people to know to give that negative light that you you mispracticed you was out and you were moping so you don't want to because you don't want people to know to give that negative light that you mispracticed, you was out and you were moping. So you don't want to give that look, Ocho, because you don't want that out there. And that's
Starting point is 01:08:11 the thing with these young guys, bro. You don't want that out there. You don't want the malcontent because it's hard to shake that. Once you get that label, Ocho, you ain't. It's hard to shake it. I mean, you got to be on your best behavior for years and years because you have another slip up. They're going to say, see, you remember?
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