Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ravens OT win, Jayden Daniels MVP, Davante Adams trade rumors
Episode Date: October 10, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap week 5 of the NFL season. Top stories include Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and the Baltimore Ravens thrilling OT win against Joe Burrow and the Ci...ncinnati Bengals, Washington Commanders rookie QB Jayden Daniels looking like an MVP candidate, Davante Adams trade rumors and much more!03:13 - Chiefs’ Rashee Rice Injury Status07:00- Davante Adams Trade Rumors13:30 - Jayden Daniels exceeds expectations19:15 - Ocho and Shannon speculate on Stefon Diggs gossip24:10 - Ravens beat Bengals in overtime38:10 - Unc is running out of words about Deshaun Watson50:30 - Bryce Young takes first snap in a game since being benched54:30 - Don’t you call Ocho delusional now58:45 - Packers suspend Romeo Doubs(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Chiefs head into the bye week 5-0 after a 26-13 victory over the New Orleans Saints.
They're undefeated in their quest to be the first team in NFL history to win three straight Super Bowls.
The Chiefs received some good news today, Ocho, regarding Rasheed Rice's status.
Ian Rappaport reported that Rice's LCL may be the only ligament that needs to be repaired.
Schefter reported it's unlikely Chief Rasheed Rice will play again this season,
but doctors will not know for sure until they do the surgery.
He's going under anesthesia.
They're going to look around and see what they find and what they repair
will determine the extent of the injury and how much downtime.
What should the Chiefs do?
Hey, Tyreek. Hey,
Miami. Y'all want to trade us Tyreek
back? I'm going to Tyreek first
because he knows the offense.
I like it, but they don't need to.
Not based off what I saw tonight.
Not based off what I saw
tonight. You don't need to.
Oh, no, no. That's not good enough, Ochoa.
That's not good enough.
I don't know if you'll beat the Ravens again.
But they only got Xavier Worthy.
Tyreek is that fear factor.
You already got the fear factor.
Hey.
I won't.
No, see, he's scared.
He ain't the boogeyman.
I want the boogeyman.
I want you afraid to come outside.
I want to.
You see. Hey, man, you got Tyreek. That ain you afraid to come outside. I want to be.
Hey, man, you got Tyree.
Now that I think about it, could you imagine a team?
Now think about when Hollywood Brown come back.
Think about if they did get Tyree.
Think about and Xavier Worthy at the same time.
Come on, man.
So matter of fact, you know what?
If Tyree was to come back, just say hypothetically speaking. That's what I need.
How about we just hand him the goddamn Lombardi now?
Okay.
Because you're not stopping that.
You're not stopping that.
I don't think there's a defense or a scheme or a team that is put together
well enough, has the personnel, to stop something like that.
No.
No. So you
reach out to Miami, see if they're
interested with Tyreek.
Then I'll probably go.
You're trying to create a team.
I don't.
But here's the. No,
I'm just saying.
Closed mouth don't get fed.
Now, Jerry said he thought Derrick Henry was too expensive, but did he see?
That's like you going to the club or something, and that fine girl over there,
man, she probably got somebody.
But listen, if you see that fine girl over there,
you'd never forget the game of soccer.
Just because there's a goalie in net doesn't mean you can't score.
Exactly. So go over there and ask her.
Guess what?
She might be on the out. They might have
just broke up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He might have done some flosh.
That's one thing about it.
She want a lick back.
We'll get that lick back.
And she probably
all she can do is tell me
that. Man, you know
how many times I've been told no.
But I want to hear her say it though.
You like that?
You know,
you know,
no, I'm not.
No,
no. Do you know how many times I was told no that I ain't gonna be ish that I ain't gonna do nothing. No, I'm not. No. No.
Do you know how many times I was told no, that I ain't going to be ish?
That I ain't going to do nothing?
And if you go to college, you ain't going to do what you did in high school.
And if you go to the NFL, I done been told no.
It ain't no thing to me.
But hey, guess what?
She say, yeah. Man, I be clicking my heels like Dorothy.
Rumors surrounding Devontae Adams and talks of him being traded away from Las Vegas are ramping up.
According to Kay Adams, he will not be on our show Tuesday as originally scheduled.
She tweeted, oh boy, lots happening at the moment with our guy Adams.
He won't be on tomorrow.
Sorry about that.
Stay tuned.
Today, Adam, she has to name the Jets.
The Saints are the most likely landing spots for Devontae Adams' services.
I mean, it makes the most sense.
We know why the Saints, but I don't think the best fit for him would be the Saints,
being that they have their targets already in Olave and Rasheed Shaheed.
But what makes sense to me to help bolster that offense over New York is Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, it just it makes the most sense, you know, and I think if he is to come, I think he will restructure and promising that he'll be there obviously more than one year
because I think Aaron will probably come back another year as well
because
of the injury the
previous year.
The writing is on the wall.
The writing is on the wall. I'm sure Aaron, behind
closed doors, is trying to do everything he can
to get
the Jets to get
Devontae on down there,
and it gives them a chance.
It gives them a chance.
I think if you have Aaron Rodgers,
you brought him there for a reason,
so you might as well give him all the tools you want to to see how far you guys can go.
The AFC East right now, I mean, it's up for grabs.
It's up for grabs, so why not improve your offense
and go take it?
All that being said, Aaron's going to have to play better
than Ocho.
Oh yeah, yeah, most definitely. He's not playing well.
Especially based on what we saw last night.
And the week before
against the Broncos.
He hasn't
played well.
Even if you go back to the first game,
he played well in one game,
but other than that, he hadn't played well.
He's going to have to play better because remember Ocho
he was supposed to be the reason why they're
winning, not why they're losing.
And so their defense is
isn't historically great, but
they're playing well enough.
He's not holding up his
end of the deal. I'm not breaking
news guys. This is not
an Amber Alert where Shannon Sharpe is breaking
news about Aaron Rodgers being bad.
He's not playing well.
And we can acknowledge that.
A lot of people don't want to acknowledge that.
But I think athletes want you to be honest
with them. I believe you can be honest without
beating them over the head.
It's okay.
Yeah. And the funny thing
about it is, you know what I like about Aaron?
Which I think most of the time, or maybe
he doesn't, he took accountability for that.
He said he has to play well.
I mean, he said that most times
they deflect and
point the fingers at other people,
you know, but the fact that he was able to take
accountability, you know what, I didn't play well. I didn't
play like myself. So,
I mean, we're going to see what happens. I'm not sure who they're playing. I'm not sure who the Jets are playing next, but you know what? I didn't play well. I didn't play like myself. We're going to see what happens. I'm not sure who they're playing.
I'm not sure who the Jets are playing next,
but hopefully, he
has a better showing.
Is the Lions going to have a
fire sale? What about Max Crosby?
Does he want to stay? Does he want out?
Yeah.
Good boy. They must run. Somebody get
him.
Can you imagine?
He'll raise Ojo. Can you imagine? He'll
raise Ojo.
Big time.
He reminds
me of Jared Allen. You remember Jared Allen?
I was just getting ready to say Jared Allen.
Remember every time Jared Allen got a sack, he would
steal the count and tie him up.
Kansas City
and Minnesota.
I think he played one year in Carolina too,
but that's where he cut.
That's where he made a name for himself with Kansas city and,
uh,
and Minnesota.
But,
uh,
well,
look,
I just won't,
I won't,
uh,
Devante to,
uh,
to get somewhere where he can,
you know,
play out his last.
Cause what?
He got two more years left on that contract.
He's in the third year of a five-year deal.
Right.
So he needs to get somewhere uh and uh obviously he's gonna you know look at for what shepter is reporting it looks like the jets and saints yeah and listen it needs to
happen sooner than later too it needs to happen sooner than later. Yeah. It needs to happen sooner than later.
On the most recent podcast, Michael
Parsons said he thinks the Jets is where Devante is going to land. I think that relationship
with the Jets is going to come to life. Michael said that Devante
brings a winning culture after predicting that he would head to New York.
Yeah, I like it.
It makes the most sense.
I mean, it just makes the most sense.
If it's another team outside of that,
to me, I mean, it just,
I just, I don't understand it.
I wouldn't understand it.
But the fact that it got out, Ocho,
that he waltzed out,
he's brought down, he suppressed his value because I know you got to get rid of him. See, Ocho, anything he wants out, he's brought down, he's suppressed his value, because I know you got to get
rid of him. See, Ocho, anything
I know you're trying to sell, I ain't
finna give you, I'm not finna give you market price
for it, because I know you got to get rid of it.
Because you know why I know you got to get rid of
him? Because he wants out, and he'll
cause you problem if he doesn't get out.
Not publicly, not going to do anything,
but remember, and I told you
off the air, said i believe ap
was talking about davante adams when he said guys are making business decisions and we will make
business decision moving forward right i believe i could be totally wrong but i believe that's what
he was talking about yeah i'm not i'm not sure ain't no telling because i wasn't able to see
the film i think if i was able to see the film i think
if i was able to see the film i'd be able to tell you exactly who was making those business decisions
and and uh what would that happen the tweet davante adams played his last game
uh somebody for that either runs his account or ap right like that. Oh, that's right. That's right.
I know you're talking about it. Yeah, yeah. I remember that.
I remember that.
If somebody's saying something
about
Ocho
and somebody from Rail account like that tweet,
you're like, hold on.
Rail, you like that?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had to have a little
conversation we'll be on we'll be on sister yeah we'll be on you like it they they they
talking reckless out here about your boy and you like that tweet yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
you got something you want to tell me the commander's quarterback jayden daniels has
exceeded expectations to begin his rookie season including those from his own teammate terry mcclory talked about the quarterback's hot start
with albert bruce saying i did not anticipate him coming in and hitting the ground running like that
i played with a few quarterbacks and definitely a few rookies um sometimes it takes some time to
get comfortable in an nfl system not just at practice. Then you go into the game and it's a different animal.
What's always encouraged me about him is his ability to get better
every day in practice.
When we would have a so-so practice, the next day he would not make
the same mistakes twice.
Same thing in joint practice.
Then you get into the game and you see him getting better each and every week.
I think it's a testament to the experience that he had in college,
but it's also his preparation.
He puts in that dude who works so hard.
He's always prepared.
Yeah.
I think it also has to do with where he came,
where he came,
what school he came,
what school he's coming from being,
being under the big lights,
being an LSU used to the large crowds,
coming from a college team that is preparing you for the next level anyway.
So all you had to do was do just that, hit the ground running.
Based on everything you've taken from there, everything you've learned since your adolescence,
since you've been playing quarterback, you come on to the NFL, you put the right people around you. If you're in the right situation, you get what you're getting from
Jane Daniels at such an early age, even as a rookie.
But he had 55 starts, so Joe, do you know how many starts that he has in college?
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good thing.
Most college quarterbacks, their red shirt, play two years, they gone.
Yeah.
That's why he looked the way he did.
Let's just say,
if you play for the national championship,
you're probably playing 14 to 15 games.
Obviously,
he didn't play for the national championship.
So he's playing,
basically,
he's been a starter
ever since he walked into college.
Yeah.
To get that many starts.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. So, that many starts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So,
it's extremely impressive.
It goes to show you the work that he's put
in. Daniels is completing
77.1% of his passes,
the highest among all starting
quarterbacks. He set a single-game rookie
completion record during
Washington's 3-3 win over the
Bengals, connected on 91.3%
of his throws
young boy look like he's
been there before man that's the only way
him and him and him and CJ Shroud
they look like they've been there before
they do
and if you can believe this
he's playing better than CJ did last
year because CJ didn't pick up his play to like week three, week four, week five.
This joker came out the gate.
Gerard Mayo had a noticeably different tone about his quarterback room
after week five.
Many have wondered if when he'll make the change from veteran quarterback
Jacoby Brissett to rookie Drake May.
Last week when Mayo was asked about the possibility of a quarterback change, he said,
Jacoby is a 100% off starter.
Today, he said, every single day, we're all being evaluated, and it's no different now.
The Patriots have fallen to 1-4 on the season after dropping their fourth consecutive game on Sunday.
In the loss to Miami, the New England mustered just 10 points while
Jacoby Brissett completed 18 of 34
passes, 160 yards.
Ocho,
in the words of Sam Cook,
I would hope not that
Jacoby Brissett can't get it done
as a veteran. Don't
put your rookie quarterback out there.
Don't put your rookie quarterback out there
like things are going to miraculously change just because he's at the helm. He's a rookie. He's a rookie quarterback out there. Don't put your rookie quarterback out there like things are going to miraculously change
just because he's at the helm.
He's a rookie.
He's a rookie for a reason.
Now, TJ Shroud, different.
Jayden Daniels, different.
Understand what they have around them to make that offense go.
Hell, if you change some of the weaponry for Jacoby Brissett, I'm sure things will be
different.
You're one and four.
You're one and four for a reason.
You're one and four for a reason. You're 1-4 for a reason,
and I don't think chaining to a rookie as
a quarterback ain't going to change much of anything.
Now, you might want to...
I was just going to say that. Now, you might want
to stick him out there. Let that man get some experience.
Get them that experience, but you know what happened
with experience, too? You know what
that's going to happen to him?
Yeah.
Yes, but
one thing about it, if you're going to take
those bumps, you got to leave him in there.
You got to, once you make that change,
you can't go back there.
Oh, yeah. Once you go
to Drake May, oh, yeah, he's a quarterback.
He's a quarterback for the rest of the year.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
Ocho, Kyler Murray announced a partnership with Cod,
C-O-D, Call of Duty.
In a statement, Kyler said,
to the trolls who mean me into the bag,
thank you.
I'm officially enlarging my Call of Duty partnership.
We talked about Kyler so much.
People made complaints about him playing a video game so much.
It drove him right into right
into a sponsorship right into an endorsement which that's a good thing that's a good thing
because the way he's playing right now yeah young fella go ahead man you can play a little you can
play a little cod you can play a little play play a little video game just get the ball to
marvin harrison jr baby that's all you got to do. He's playing good. He's playing good.
Okay.
Go ahead.
What happened?
You all right?
I don't even know what to do with this. I...
The A6
made the news today for a very interesting reason i know steph according to academic i'm
telling you steph if i don't get my asics that you collab with i promise you you're gonna get
with james harris gonna get i'm telling you i'm telling you i want my ace i wear i'm a ten and a half well it's being reported that
this thing Stefan he stepped
off in something
it's being reported that
allegedly Cardi B cheated
on Offset with Stefan Diggs
while she was eight months pregnant
we weren't even there
we weren't there
you can't believe that
you can't believe that
I don't know Ocho
Ocho
I don't know about Ocho
your woman, your wife
your significant other, your girl pregnant
that's one thing
but eight months
somebody else girl
I don't believe it
I think it's just that
a rumor Steph wouldn't do that
oh he wouldn't do that
huh
I'm just saying
well hey if that's the case he got the right
last name D because he would dig it
my bad Ocho
my bad Ocho my bad
my bad Ocho
my bad Ocho my bad
that was a nice layup too soon Ocho. My bad, Ocho. My bad. My bad. My bad. Ocho, my bad. That was a nice layup.
That was a nice layup. Too soon, Ocho.
Too soon.
Yeah, I don't...
I just don't know, Ocho.
I just don't know.
Steph wouldn't do nothing like that, man.
He wouldn't do nothing like that.
He wouldn't do nothing like that.
Like, that's just...
Come on, man.
I don't even like the rumor.
I don't like the person that even started the rumor
to really step on, you know,
and assassinate his character like that anyway
in the first place.
You trying my dog to talk about,
he, come on, man.
Man, little bro don't even get down like that.
You feel me?
Eight months?
No.
Now, listen, maybe if you you maybe yeah yeah i'm gonna move on
that's a different story you know uh stefan diggs is like um he's like the zack like like
zack zack efron in his prime you know all all the women all the women love him you know all the
women love him you know you, he's very fashionable.
He's charismatic.
He has a good personality.
You know, I mean, he's shit.
You know, he has his opportunities and can, even if there's a goalie in net, he can score.
You know, he's one of those.
He can score.
So, you know, I just don't see it based on the situation and the circumstance at hand.
Eight months.
Nah.
Nah.
Nah.
Nah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that's what, yeah.
Maybe two, he don't know.
That's one thing.
But eight?
Nah.
Nah.
Nah.
But, hey, listen, Stephon, Stephon. listen, Stephon, he's going to have bigger problems.
He's going to have bigger problems if I don't get them goddamn Asics.
Shit.
I ain't got time.
Man, I've been working on these hands, too.
Oh, okay.
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Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
No.
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The Ravens beat the Bengals in overtime, 41-38.
Lamar Jackson spearheaded the comeback.
Double digits multiple times in the fourth quarter.
But Lamar Jackson would not let
this team lose. Lamar picked apart
the banged up Bengals secondary to the tune
of 348 yards. He also
had passed for four touchdowns.
And he rushed for 55 yards.
In the first five periods of the game, the Ravens put
up 520 yards
on 31st down. They needed every one of the big division win. After the game, the Ravens put up 520 yards on 31st down.
They needed every one of the big division win.
After the game, Burrow said it was frustrating that a team that started the year with title aspirations is nowhere close.
We're not a championship-level team right now.
We're not.
I like to think that we'll come back and prove throughout the season to get to that point.
But right now, we're not.
We have to get it together.
Ochoa, do you want to play a change of playoff prediction? No, listen. We're in a hole. But right now, we're not. We have to get it together. Ochoa, do you want to change your playoff position?
Listen, we in a hole, Unc.
But we in a hole.
I feel bad as a Bengal fan, as a Bengal player, as a former player.
The game was good, though.
Offensively, the game was good.
It was good to see that offense look like it should have looked starting in week one.
It was good to see that Bengals offense
look how they always look
by the time you get to week three
and so on.
Defense,
still a little shaky.
Still a little shaky.
Well, I mean,
we shaky, shaky.
A little shaky?
We shaky, shaky.
I don't know what the statistics
or the stats are,
but we might be.
When it comes to stopping the run or in the pass, we might be damn near at the bottom half of the league,
at the bottom half of the league in both of those categories.
But from an offensive standpoint, what you saw from T. Higgins today, what you saw from Yoshi,
what you saw from goddamn Jamar Chase, who's showing you that's why you pay him,
even if he has two years on his contract, I can take the ball.
I can take small smoke screens and take him 77 yards.
I can go deep.
I can do everything no matter where we at.
Just put the ball in those hands.
Then we get the overtime.
When we get to overtime, you have a $250 million fucking quarterback.
That's not the time to play conservative.
You put the ball in your $250 million quarterback's hands and allow him to win you the game when it matters most.
Like you said, the game of football is all about moments.
In a moment like that, in a game that you need to win an important division game you allow
your $250 million
quarterback to earn that goddamn check
hold on all game
all game
we've been very successful
we dishing we dunking
we doing everything but all of a sudden
when it matters most
everybody ass got tight you run the ball three times in a row dunking, we doing everything. But all of a sudden, when it matters most,
everybody's ass got tight.
You run the ball three times in a row.
Hold on, now.
You run the ball three times in a row, right?
And you put the pressure on McPherson to make a 50-yard field goal
where you could have just ran a normal offense.
You've been running all game.
That's been working all game.
Open up your playbook.
You got your quarterback.
Come on, man.
I was hot. Why are we
conservative and we supposed to be trying to win the
game? You already won
in three. Throw the kitchen sink at them motherfuckers,
man. It's all time.
Run your offense.
Damn. That's how you feel?
Golly.
I'm looking at some of the goddamn stats.
Hey, touchdown passes,e burrow 12 he
leading the nfl passer rating joe burrow first 113.8 he's leading the nfl and completion percentage
joe burrow 72.2 he's second pass charge He's third. 40-plus completions.
Yardage.
He's tied for first.
So what does that tell you?
What does that tell you just based off the stats
and what he's doing at the quarterback position
despite it not reflecting what the record may show?
When he has the ball in his hands,
he's getting it done from a quarterback perspective.
It's just not enough because we motherfucking want it for.
But again, in overtime, what do we do?
We take the ball out of the man's hands and we give it to the running back.
Three times.
First down, second down, third down.
Are we not trying to win the game?
Are we running the ball?
Why play conservative in that?
Come on, man.
At least give us a chance. At least give us a chance.
At least give us
a chance. I mean, we paid him that
kind of money for a reason.
Can I ask you a question?
What role did that
interception play in the Ravens getting back
into this ballgame and getting into overtime?
It played a big role.
It played a big role.
It played a big role. It played a big role.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Listen, when you say something,
are we going to gloss over that?
I'm wishing you were right. You can't make those kind of mistakes. You can't make those kind of
costly mistakes. And the fact that they made that
mistake, I think that's another reason
why they took the ball out of his hands and ran the goddamn
ball to overtime to make sure
the mistake didn't happen again.
What do I do?
So why?
I just want to know why people are mad at me because I point things out.
Right.
From a play call.
I just want to know why y'all mad at me.
So, oh, he got five touchdowns.
Okay.
Ocho, you know your defense currently is not playing very good.
The last thing you can do is turn that ball over.
You can't do that.
So now, keep moving it.
Keep moving the ball down the field.
Even if you settle for a field goal, now they need a touchdown to beat you
as opposed to a field goal to tie you.
Five touchdowns, yes, he's playing well.
The difference is, what, are you going to blame Joe Burrow?
Last week, he settled for field goals.
He got two field goals before he got those three touchdowns.
The Washington Commanders got touchdowns.
When he was getting field goals, they were getting touchdowns.
That's the difference, okay?
They had two double-digit
leads in the fourth quarter.
At one point in time, the score was 24
to 10.
24-14. Let me take that back. 24-14.
24-14. Because the Ravens, it was
14-9. They got a touchdown
to what? Yes, it was 24-14
in the fourth quarter. And Lamar Jackson went into that phone booth,
changed into that cape, and became Superman again.
At some point in time, Ocho, you can look at the numbers.
We used to kill Peyton.
Peyton had gaudy numbers every year.
And everybody would say, stats are for losers.
Because Tom Brady would throw for 200 yards and win the ball game.
Peyton have 300.
Peyton would play a team.
He'd throw for 300, 400 yards.
They'd lose.
Stats are for losers.
But it's funny how it changed if we like somebody.
Joe Burrow is a very likable guy.
I've met him a couple of times.
He's great.
He's a great young man.
But at the end of the day, Ocho, you know what it comes down to.
You can't make those kinds of mistakes that he made knowing that my defense is not very good currently.
Because think about it.
If they're going up and down the field driving 70 and 80 yards, what the hell do you think you're going to do if you put them on a short field?
Yeah.
They're going to get the ball to end zone. They got
very conservative. He scared them.
Zach Taylor got scared. He turned
the ball over late in the fourth quarter.
They tied the ball game.
And now, instead of,
Ocho, instead of going for it.
But you can't do that, though.
They pulled the rage back.
From a coaching standpoint,
I'm in no position because I ain't no goddamn coach.
All I do is play goddamn Madden.
But from the outside looking and understanding how we're doing as a team collectively,
understand how our defense is not really playing well.
They're not playing well.
They're not playing well against the run.
They're not playing well against the pass.
Who do I put the ball?
Who do I put?
You put it in his head. Even
with the mistake. Even with the mistake with the turnover
in the fourth quarter.
You have no choice. There's a reason we
paid him the money we paid him because
at times like that, in moments like
this, when we need a win,
you put it in his hands.
The offense has been looking good all goddamn
day. just run your
regular offense huh you can't you can't pull the reins and then have your ass tight when it matters
most because that gets you beat that got us beat even with the even with the pick we had the
opportunity to win the game i mean joe was 30 of 39, 392, five touchdowns.
He normally plays well against the Ravens.
I think he has a 500-yard passing day.
He has a 400-something-yard passing day.
So he normally plays well.
But in that situation, in your running game, Ocho, 23 for 71,
you really haven't.
Now, I'm not saying it's not going to get better,
but as of right now, you haven't replaced Joe Mixon.
What he gave you in the run game,
you had a couple of false starts that set you back.
Behind the eight ball killed some of your momentum.
But you just got to find a way to win these games.
Tee and Chase were unbelievable.
They had 276 yards combined on 19.
They had 16 targets.
No, they had 12.
26 targets.
19 catches.
276 and four touchdowns.
Yeah.
Well, your star guys,
skilled position players,
they did what they were supposed to be.
They did what they were supposed to do.
They did the thing.
Yeah.
Sometimes it comes down to one play,
an interception.
Now,
because you probably,
you might have could have run the clock out
because the one thing I don't want to have happen
with the way I see Lamar Jackson playing,
I don't want to give him the ball back, Coach Joe.
I don't want to give it back to him.
It's the guy, Lamar Jackson,
Joe Burrell, Patrick Mahomes,
guys like that. Okay,
hold up, man. Damn, they done came
back. They only one score down. We can't give
him that ball back.
He going to find a way. Now, first of Man, damn. They done came back. They only one score down. We can't give him that ball back. He going to find a way.
Now, first of all, you got – that was a face mask on Andrews.
You got face masks.
And the referee standing right there.
He came up off of the face mask.
Andrews is doing his thing.
He's getting tackled.
I think it was Pratt making the tackle, huh?
No, not that dude.
Yeah, I think he just got –
Yeah.
He was making the tackle. Andrew? Nah, not that dude. Yeah, I think he just got... Yeah. He was making a tackle.
Andrew was screaming.
Right.
Andrew's got the ball
in one hand.
He face-masked me.
He face-masked me.
That hurt, though.
But it was a very exciting game.
This is what, you know,
it was a shootout in the AFC North.
We don't normally get games like this.
It's normally a black and blue division.
It's normally more physical.
But when you got these type of quarterbacks,
Ocho,
and I don't want to pat myself on the back,
but what did I tell the Ravens how to use Derrick Henry?
And over time, you tell people at home, and over time, what they do. Shoot him downhill, straight downhill, A gap, B gap,
or just toss it to him with a full back and front.
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Today's most electric touchdown play of the day came deep in the fourth quarter,
and your courtesy, we can't show it because
we're not paying $2 million to show you this video.
Lamar Jackson bobbled the snap.
He stiff-armed Sam Hubbard
not once but twice
as he's running, rolling,
off-balance, falling out of
bounds. He discarded a pass
rusher, took a shot
to the face, extended the play
and threw a touchdown pass to Isaiah
Likely. How, Lamar?
How? Listen, I tweeted
it too. You saw LJ. I tweeted
it too. When the game was going, I said, well, God
damn it. Lamar just
won't go away. That young boy is
unbelievable. I've been
watching Lamar. He was at Boynton Beach High School.
I used to go
and watch just to see. He was a superstar. He was a superstar back then Beach High School. I used to go and watch just to see.
He was a superstar. He was a superstar
back then. What are you doing in the NFL now?
I've been seeing that before he even got to Louisville.
He was doing the same thing at
Boynton Beach.
But he's the real deal, man.
Man, that hurt, man.
We had an opportunity.
We had it right here.
It was in our hands.
And I was at Twin Peaks.
I watched the football game at Twin Peaks
because they put on multiple TVs for the 1 o'clock games at once
so I can enjoy them, right?
There was a table of Ravens fans that sat adjacent to me
to where I was sitting, about two, three tables over.
And every time we made a play, I look on down there.
I look on down there. I look on down there.
I ain't talking no trash now.
I ain't talking no trash because I ain't want to put my foot in my mouth.
And when we recovered that fumble, when we recovered that fumble in overtime,
I told the waitress, I was like, Miss, you can put this Coke with no ice.
You can give me a to-go cup, a styrofoam cup.
Right before they kicked the ball, I went over to their section,
and I sat there, and I just smiled.
I ain't even saying that.
I just smiled because we finna get this kick, and we finna win.
When that goddamn placeholder bobbled that snap,
and all them Raven fans went crazy, I was hurt.
That hurt.
That hurt. That hurt.
Yeah.
Because, you know, the momentum swung.
You guys had the momentum after Lamar Fulmer, the ball in overtime.
Now you guys got the momentum.
Heartbreaker.
Ochoa, I don't know what to say about Deshaun, bro.
I'm running out of words, Ochoa.
At some point in time, Ocho,
this has got to stop now.
Cleveland hasn't topped more than 18 points
in a game this season.
The Browns enter Week 5
with the worst third down offense in the NFL.
And they failed.
They failed to convert
all 12 of their third down attempts today
with Deshaun in the game.
Hey, I got a question.
Ocho, at some point in time, Ocho.
What?
What's the issue?
What's the issue?
Is it mental?
Is it the play calling?
I mean, what do you think it is?
And I'm confused.
I've been watching football
for a long time.
For a very long time.
And in the nosedive, in the nosedive that I've been watching football for a long time, for a very long time. And in the nosedive, in the nosedive that that I've seen from a personal standpoint of arguably maybe a top three quarterback when he was with with the Texans to what the version of the Sean Jackson,
the version of the Sean Watson I'm seeing now.
That's how in such a short amount of time.
How?
Barring an injury, the only time Ocho I can say I've seen this kind of drop off from any kind of player.
Hold on.
It's through injury.
Injury.
If you have a significant injury, that would explain it.
I could offer you, Ocho, man, you know the man, he tore his patella tendon.
Ocho, you know the man tore his Achilles.
He had back-to-back ACL surgery.
Ocho, he almost had his shoulder ripped off the bone.
So that would explain the cataclysmic drop in his play.
But I don't see an injury that would cause it.
It's mental.
It's mental, huh?
This is up here.
Listen, do you know how hard that is to get back,
especially at that position?
At the quarterback position?
Hey, listen.
Yes.
If you messed up mentally here and at the quarterback position,
you got the ball in your hands every time.
So your judgment
and your mind, it already got to be clear
because if your judgment and your mind and you're not healthy
as well on top of that,
you'll never be able to
play well. You'll never be able to excel
with that position.
I was thinking about it. I'm looking at
I'm thinking about it early today.
Well, goddamn, I'm looking at, well'm thinking about it early. Well, God damn.
I'm looking at,
well,
Dan,
the Browns got a Mark Cooper.
You got Nick.
You got Nick Chubb coming back soon.
Maybe,
I think maybe two weeks,
maybe,
maybe one more.
And Joku and Joku.
Elijah.
You bought him a young bull.
Damn. Why? Why? I'm going blank right now. You got, you bought him a young bull. Damn, why am I going blank right now?
You bought him a young bull, Jerry Judy, you know?
I'm like, okay, we good.
We good.
I'm talking about we good.
I'm just saying as a fan, as a fan of Deshaun Watson,
as a fan of some of these young bulls over there, man,
that I enjoy watching, I'm like, okay, they're going to compete.
They're going to compete. They're going to have a chance, you know, in the
AFC North. And it's just, it's
not what I envision based
on what I've seen
in the past. And I really can't
put, I can't put my hands on it, on
why they look the way they do.
He don't even move the same.
Ocho, he don't even move the same.
He don't look the same in the pocket
and I think
you know
look
I'm not here to try to rehash and rethink
anything but I think that
that weighed a lot on his mind
I think it weighed
a hell of a lot on his mind
and he hasn't been the same and I think it weighed a hell of a lot on his mind. And he hasn't been the same.
And I think everybody knows that.
I'm not breaking.
Ocho, you and I are not breaking news.
Everybody knows.
I saw the guy.
His last year starting in Houston, he led the NFL in passing yards.
He did that.
I'm not so sure Deshaun,
he's a 28, 29, 30, 31st, 32nd.
He's a bottom five quarterback currently.
Look at Joe Flacco in Indy.
Look at what Joe Flacco did in Cleveland.
Joe Flacco,
Joe Flacco is, if I'm not
mistaken, I think I read this, is eight
days younger than Anthony Richardson
Monk.
Hey, Joe
that old?
Yes!
Yes!
It's because I think sometimes, Ocho,
when you have
Yeah. an image
and and then all of a sudden that image is not what was being portrayed
and people start to like you start to think how do they how do they look at me now how do they
perceive me
and that plays with
you because you're out in the public
it's
if somebody I would
have been so I'd have lost a lot of money Ocho
if somebody would have said Shannon he's never going to be the same
again I said man're out your mind.
I said, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on. I'm like, hold on.
Is he going to have...
Shannon, he's not going to have a career-threatening
injury. He's not going to have anything. Nope.
He's just not going to be the same. I would have bet it
with the quickness, too. I know
what I've seen from him.
I know what I've seen. And I've just
never seen
a
performance decline in
such a fast rate.
Especially when you have
a better supporting cast than what you had in Houston.
And he's
young.
Also, it wasn't like he's 30
Deshaun is 30
is he 30
he came because he came out
he's 29
I got a better question for you
he just turned 29 Ocho
how do we get him back to the old Deshaun
how do we fix the problem
how do we fix the issues
let me ask you a question
in professional sports,
when have you seen a guy have this kind of
precipitous drop and bounce back up?
Name the sport.
Football, basketball,
baseball.
Ain't never happened, huh?
Yeah, man. It it's hard Ocho because so much of sports is physical yes we've seen guys that had talent but if you're weak-minded mentally that's where you have to be the strongest
what do they say the best athletes have what the strongest. What do they say? The best athletes have what? The strongest mentality.
You gotta be.
That's everything. You have to have a
self-belief that I'm the
baddest mofo on this field, this
court, this diamond,
this whatever the case may be. Whatever
your avenue, this court,
Serena, whatever
your arena is,
you have the mindset that
I'm the baddest mofo here.
Dang it.
Because a lot...
Bro, Tom Brady ain't the most talented
quarterback. Not even
close. He might not be
in the top one
as far as talent.
I'm talking about physical talent.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm talking about the ability to run, jump, arm strength.
That's where they beat you at.
That joke of mine.
Drew Brees.
That's where they beat you at, huh?
They beat you upstairs.
All that coach speak to Tom.
Oh, man, that's a great time.
Listen,
and I tend to tell people,
how do you know?
I said,
I'm telling you how they think.
Let me tell you,
we did a lot of this too.
They're going to tell you what a great team that is.
And they're really,
really tough.
They're really disciplined.
They're really well coached,
but in that closed door behind that meeting,
Belichick is telling me we're going to kick their ass.
And Tom Brady is in that meeting.
Tell him at practice, we're going to kick their ass. And Tom Brady's in that meeting telling them at practice, we're going to
kick their ass. They don't deserve to
be on the field, but we're going to keep hyping them up.
He actually believed
that. And what great leaders
can do, they can convince
others around them to
believe just like they are.
They believe just what Tom
was so great
and so believable.
Guys, we're going to do this.
We're going to do this.
Man, you hear what Tom said?
Man, we're down 14.
Tom said we're coming back.
Yeah, we're coming back.
Yeah, we're coming back.
That's how it works.
I don't think Deshaun, I don't think his,
what happened,
same thing.
Look at Ben Simmons.
Oh.
Look at Ben Simmons in basketball, Locho.
All defensive,
all star,
all NBA,
rookie of the year.
Yeah, he got hurt,
but his mentality was
is that what happened in Philly.
Y'all remember, I said it.
I said he's never going to be the same.
His coach criticized him
and the best player on the team criticized him.
But stuff like that shouldn't break you.
That's motivated right there.
That's motivated.
That's motivated.
I ain't what I am.
Oh, Joe, but you have to what I you don't think
oh okay bet
let me ask you a question okay
yeah
hold on
hold on
what down what down it is
okay
okay I'm lined up
it's fourth and five
no we're in the huddle
no they call to play
let's say we gonna call 200 jet
X land that's you you the X
no no
but this what you do
you done lost your confidence so bad
you like Carson
so TJ the ball
what
what
but fourth and five and you know it's fourth down and they finna play Hell nah. Go TJ the ball. You got hell nah. You got me. What?
What, fourth and five?
And you know it's four down and they finna play man to man?
Man.
Stop saying that.
You remember that game when they played Atlanta?
They passed Ben Simmons the ball. Oh, hey, when he had to lay up and he passed it off?
I remember the play exactly.
See that?
I remember that.
You see that?
Now you see what I'm talking about.
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Dave Canales threw Bryce Young back in the game with 415 remaining,
and Bryce took his first snap in the game since being benched after 0-2.
Oh, so you mean to tell me the quarterback situation that don't change anything, huh?
Huh.
On the first play, he brought time and scrambled
and found Miles Sanders
open for a 27-yard game.
Canales did a fantastic job
and said Andy Dalton
will remain the starter
for next week
against the Falcons.
After the game,
Bryce Young asked
if the current situation
lit a fire putter here.
Come on.
What'd you think, Ocho?
Politically correct.
He's saying
all the right things, but maybe that is
just him, though. You can tell from
his mannerism,
the way he carries himself, that's just him.
That's his personality, Ocho.
Yeah, I see. I can see.
That's his personality. I can see. Cool dude.
Real soft-spoken.
Real soft-spoken.
It just...
I think he's going to get the opportunity again.
I just hope his confidence is that whenever that opportunity presents itself,
that he's ready mentally, you know?
And I think it probably might be with the Panthers or if it's elsewhere.
I hope he's ready.
Well,
until they get some weapons, they're like,
don't put me back in there, because I ain't going to look no better, because
Andy Dalton, look how Andy Dalton
numbers with those weapons.
And everybody, ooh, oh, Andy Dalton.
Woo, look at Andy Dalton. We got a large
enough sample size to know what Andy Dalton is.
Large enough. Plenty large. I don't care who the quarterback is. Ain't nobody, look at Andy Dalton. We got a large enough sample size to know what Andy Dalton is. Large enough.
Plenty large.
I don't care who the quarterback is.
Ain't nobody.
Look, you better be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady to make these receivers look good.
They got some nice.
I mean, they got some boys over there.
Now, once they get Adam Thielen back, they got Xavier Leggett.
They got Mingo.
You know, they got some boys. They got Deontay. Listen, they got De Leggett. They got Mingo. You know, they got some boys.
They got Deontay.
Listen, they got Deontay Johnson.
He had one target, one catch.
They got some nice, you know, some nice little pieces.
They just got to put that shit together.
They got to put it together.
And then when you have question marks at a quarterback position,
that means the receiver position and the tight ends have to be that
much better than the quarterback.
It gotta be.
It gotta be. And that's why
he doesn't stand a chance. Because they're not
nice, huh?
They're not that much better.
He ain't throwing to Kelsey and Laporta
and Kittle and guys like that.
He's not throwing to Justin Jefferson
and Chase and guys like that. Even if not throwing to Justin Jefferson and Chase and guys like that.
Even if you want to go, even if you
take those top 10 guys out and go
to the next 10, what
guy, if I give you
how many receivers you're going to go to before you take
Deontay Johnson? Leg it,
I get it, he's a rookie, but how many
receivers and tight ends are you going to go
through before you pick one off the Carolina roster?
A bunch.
That's rude.
It's the truth though.
Rookies.
Look at what CJ was throwing to.
He had Nico tank Dale,
Noah Brown as well. He had Dalton Schultz. He had Nico, Tank Dale,
Noah Brown as well.
He had Dalton Schultz. He had nice feet. Which one of those guys
are better than any of the guys that I
named?
On the Panthers?
Yeah.
Which one of those
guys is better than Nico Collins,
better than Tank Dale,
better than Dalton Schultz, better than, hell, Noah Brown.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
Yeah.
And they stealing all the joy from Bryce Young because they ain't doing it-ish.
I'm glad you brought that up.
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The Cook, dude, you're delusional.
I know.
You're delusional.
You're delusional.
And we're going to the playoffs.
What you talking about?
You saw what we did today.
You see how that offense looks today.
Listen, don't do that.
Don't do that.
Who was that?
What was his name?
What was the name?
What was the name?
Tim Lee. Okay, Tim Lee. You'll see. What was the name? What was the name? Tim Lee.
Okay, Tim Lee.
You'll see.
You'll see.
Now we play the Giants next.
We're going to beat the Giants.
Then we play the Browns.
We're going to beat the Browns.
I'm not sure what the schedule is after that, but we're going to be all right.
And we make the playoffs.
I'm going to make sure.
Tim Lee, I'm going to remember you.
I'm going to remember you.
And when the Bengals make the playoffs and get up out of this hole and rise
from the ashes,
like the goddamn undertaker and make the playoffs,
I'm going to find you.
You mean like a Phoenix?
You mean like a Phoenix?
What's the Phoenix?
That's what rise from the ashes.
Well,
I was,
I was,
I was trying to insinuate how the undertaker comes about the grave or he,
he like, Oh, he's up inaker comes about the grave. Or he like.
Oh, he stood up in the middle of the ring when he was like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You do.
I mean, you keep.
You know what I heard?
I heard you say about the offense.
I hear you mentioned that by that defense.
Oh, listen.
All right.
Our team, our identity is the offense.
Now, Lou.
Lou is going to do what he needs to do
to make sure we play good enough.
Good enough football.
When?
Huh?
When?
I mean, listen, that's why we practice.
I mean, you do realize y'all gave up,
y'all gave up 41 to the Ravens.
You gave up 33, 36 the week before to the Commanders.
We talk about Lamar Jackson and Jaden Daniels.
Two of the most efficient
quarterbacks in the NFL
right now. Y'all got
beat by Jacoby Brissett too.
That was week one. You know week one don't count.
It's a toss-up. Anybody can win week one.
Ain't no telling what's going to happen week one.
Who beat them the third week?
OK to the city. Oh, yeah.
Again, we should have won. Matter of fact,
our record
does not state how good our team
is.
You look at us play today, and you look
at our record, that's not who we are.
It's not.
It's just not. Tim Lee,
I'm going to find you.
Matter of fact, I'm going to look
for you on Twitter right now so I can talk shit.
Don't come on my show
and talk about I'm delusional.
Packers' Romeo Dobbs
was suspended one game for conduct
detrimental to the team. The Packers
made the announcement shortly before they
departed for Sunday's game at the Ram. The Packers made the announcement shortly before they departed for Sunday's
game at the Ram.
The suspension came after Dobbs missed two days of practice and meeting.
The team initially explained the absence as for personal reasons,
but Sports Illustrated reported that Dobbs was upset about his opportunities
in the passing game.
Packers GM Brian Gunekens.
Unfortunately,
we had to make a difficult decision to suspend Romeo for this week passing game. Packers GM Brian Gunekens. Unfortunately, we had to make
a difficult decision to suspend Romeo for this week's game. His decisions and actions during
the week negatively impacted the team and required us to take this action. While we are certainly
disappointed, we are confident that we'll be able to move forward in a positive manner. Romeo is a
valuable member of our team and we look forward to welcoming him back next week.
Dobbs ranked second on the team with 20 catches, 169 yards,
but has yet to score a touchdown in four games.
In Love's return, Packers threw the ball 54 times.
Eight of those were targeted to Dobbs,
who caught four for 39 yards.
Only one wide receiver, D'Antavion Wicks, with 13 targets,
was thrown the ball more than Dobbs.
Oh, Joe.
Yes, sir.
You mean to tell me guys really, like, really missed practice?
Guys get upset that I ain't got no targets, I ain't get no ball,
they got no touchdowns?
Right.
And guys really miss practice?
I don't know.
Not be late to practice, missed the
entire practice.
It's hard to actually
know what exactly happened
and a report coming out saying it.
I mean, how truthful do you think
that really is? Why would they suspend him then?
Huh? Why would they suspend him?
Because we don't know what he got suspended for.
We don't know. Hold on.
They said it was for personal reasons. When has somebody ever Because we don't know what he got suspended for. We don't. Hold on. They say, hold on.
They said it was for personal reasons.
Right.
When did somebody ever got suspended for personal reasons? It was somebody told them, Sports Illustrated broke the story.
They said he missed skip practice.
He skipped meetings because he was upset.
I know, but I ain't.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
This is what the GM said.
Unfortunately, we
had to make a difficult decision
to suspend Romeo for
this week's game for his
decisions and actions
during the week that negatively
impacted the team and required
us to take this action. Ocho, nothing
else needs to be said.
Oh, so you just, you using Sports Illustrated as your source? I'm using us to take this action. Ocho, nothing else needs to be said.
Oh, so you just, you're using Sports Illustrated
as your source? I'm using
Brian Gunekis, the general manager. Based
on what he said, what if he wasn't practicing and
he acted a fool in practice about not
getting the ball? Ocho, come on, Ocho.
At some point in time, Ocho, you gotta stop this.
I get it. I'm asking a question.
I'm not relying on
fucking Sports Illustrated.
I'm relying on Brian Gunnigan, the general manager.
And I said maybe he acted a fool in practice and they had to suspend him for his conduct because he's not getting the ball.
Okay.
Acting a fool in practice.
I ain't getting the ball.
You know how you act a fool?
You know what?
You can't be doing that while you're here.
You got to go.
Hold on. Now, you just told me last week when these reporters get stuff about Devontae, it's coming from somewhere.
Now, all of a sudden, it's not coming from anywhere. They made it up.
That's not what you said. No, hold on. Hold on.
Sports Illustrated? I'm not paying them as no source.
You said when reporters say things, they're getting it from somewhere now they report this it came out of thin air and now brian gunikens the general manager said
we had to make a difficult decision to suspend romeo for this week's game his decisions and his
actions we this week negatively impacted the team
and required us to take this action.
And I guarantee the action you talk about,
it happened at practice.
I guarantee you that.
I guarantee you did.
Let's bet.
How much you want to bet?
Let's bet.
I'll tell you what I do.
I'll tell you what I do.
If he didn't miss practice,
you give me your salary.
My who?
If he didn't miss practice,
bet your salary.
Which salary? Which job? Bet your salary. My who? If he didn't miss practice, bet your salary.
What salary?
What job?
Bet your salary.
What job?
Whichever one you want to pick.
Whatever show that you appear on, bet it.
Okay, bet.
No, no, no.
Ain't no bullshit now.
I'm real.
I'm talking real.
Bet it.
Nah, bet a thousand.
No, I don't want no thousand fucking dollars.
What did I ever do with a thousand dollars?
A lot. I'll bet 500.
I'll bet 500,000.
Who?
I'll bet you $500,000.
Why we can't bet a thousand?
I don't want no thousand.
What the hell I'm going to do with a thousand dollars?
What you going to do with 500,000?
Hell, I go upstairs right now and pull that out.
What the hell I'm going to do with that?
Well, see, I can pull it out too.
What you saying?
Bet 500.
I don't even gamble.
You ain't got to gamble because you said it didn't happen like that.
So that's not a gamble.
I said, what if it didn't?
I said, I wouldn't rely on Sports Illustrated for nothing.
Bet 500 then.
Ocho, just think about it.
You can be 500K just like that in a blink of an eye.
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't care about no money.
I'm trying to figure out why you're so happy about what Sports Illustrated said.
I'm talking about what Brian Gunnick is doing.
Okay, and I said it's probably because of what he did at practice.
Bet 500K then.
Why we bet money?
I'll tell you what I do.
I'll tell you what.
No, no, no.
I'll tell you what I do.
I'll put up a million to your 500,000.
No.
Chat, y'all see
that?
Hey.
I'm going to cover you. I'm going to put up a
million to your $500,000. Listen to me.
Listen to me. Hey, Romeo Dobbs
is in his second year, right?
I don't know what year he is. He's in his second year.
I mean, he's in his second year, right?
As-as-as, he's in his second year.
What year is he in?
Second or third?
Third.
Yeah, pulling some shit like that, that's a vet move, man.
That's a vet move.
Not showing up to practice.
I can honestly say, I played 14 years.
I ain't never had a teammate.
And the guys have been upset about playing time, about incentives,
but I ain't never... Have guys been late for
meetings? Yes. Have the guys been
late for practice? Yes. But I'm talking about just
skip that ish all
together?
I don't know. You got to be
that boy, too.
You got to be that boy. Like Aaron Rodgers?
Like that minicamp?
Yeah, see? You got to be that boy to be able togers? Like that minicamp? Yeah, see?
You got to be that boy to be able to pull some stuff like that off
and nothing happened and have no disciplinary actions.
Now, I'm a third-year receiver just not showing up for two days in a row?
Come on, man.
Mm-mm.
No.
I mean, and then even if you're a guy like that,
they probably won't suspend you, they're gonna take that game shit
right right right you can play
but I will take that money oh they gonna get something out
you oh yeah for sure
oh yeah
oh yeah because the thing is
you gonna want to play
I mean because you don't want people to know
to give that negative light that you
you mispracticed you was out and you were moping so you don't want to because you don't want people to know to give that negative light that you mispracticed, you was
out and you were moping. So you don't want to
give that look, Ocho, because you don't
want that out there. And that's
the thing with these young guys, bro. You
don't want that out there. You don't want the malcontent
because it's hard to shake that.
Once you get that label, Ocho,
you ain't. It's hard to
shake it. I mean, you got to be
on your best behavior for years and years because you have another slip up.
They're going to say, see, you remember?
One thing about him.
I was like, bro.
One thing about him now.
I still can't believe it.
When he put that ball in his hands, oh boy, he go to work.
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