Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Reaction to KD being called 'Weak,' Jeff Bezos' interest in Celtics

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Dennis Schröder calling Kevin Durant "weak" after KD took shots at him after the Olympic win, Jeff Bezos' reported interest in buying the Boston Celtics  and much more!04:05 - Show Starts06:00 - Dennis Schroder calls out KD15:10 - Carmelo Anthony Gold Medals better than championships29:35 - Jeff Besos wants to buy the Celtics44:20 - Zion Williamson weight loss01:02:20 - Sam Watson speed climbing champion joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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which is European is straight IQ basketball. While the latter emphasizes entertainment more, the comment clearly caught the attention of one Kevin Durant, who shared a photo of the gold medal celebration in caption entertainment and IQ. Truder addressed the comments during the Twitch stream and said, Katie is being weak for his reaction. You're the type of star that you have to say something to a person like me

who's not even meant to be negative. It was just, I see it from both sides. You know what I'm saying? I didn't appreciate it. I don't care. But at the end of the day, that tweet or whatever he posted was because of me, for me. It was never no negative stuff.

I respect all guys, goes but to say to tell me how weak he is as a person i mean what you think i don't i don't see it as weak listen shooter made a shooter made a comment he says nba basketball here is all about entertainment and nba basketball where he's from in that area. European basketball. European basketball is all IQ. To play in the NBA, you have to have some type of IQ. You have to not only lead skill set, you have to have an IQ to play the game of basketball. Whether you're playing in Europe, whether you're playing in America,

no matter where you're playing, you have to have an extensive IQ. Now, you have some players whose IQ is much much better than much much better than others lebron jacobis your michael jordans who see the floor a little different than everybody else but i mean it's a comment like that is unnecessary it's unnecessary it's something like that that's something you can probably keep to yourself and then when you do see it out publicly when you say something publicly you have to be willing to take the criticism that comes with it from a player, one of the best I might add, that plays in the entertainment

side of basketball, as you so call it. Who also has an IQ for the game. So, I mean, listen, you got to be able to take the criticism when you say something publicly. Yeah, for the simple fact is he makes it seem like the American game is all about entertainment. That these guys don't have high basketball IQ.

And like you say, you have to have a certain level of basketball IQ. But just like any sport, there are certain great players that have a higher level of the IQ. But to say your guys are IQ and it's not and it's not entertaining and this is entertaining and not basketball IQ. I'm surprised more guys didn't respond. But, Trudy, look, you're entitled to your opinion, but you can't be upset if somebody gives you their opinion back. So he just captured it like, oh, okay, this is entertainment and IQ. To each his own.

He has an opinion. I don't agree with his opinion. To play any sport, whether it's basketball, football, hockey, whatever it may be, especially even individual sports, it takes a certain level of IQ to be great at those or to be able to compete at

any level. I mean, it's just it makes sense to him. It doesn't make sense. What is pro sports? Entertainment! Yeah. That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. And the more entertaining you are,

guess what? The more money you make. And the thing was, look at the Spurs. The Spurs had a great dynasty with Duncan and Ginobili and Parker. Yeah. But they was born as hell. They play great basketball,

hot basketball IQ. Yeah. But ain't nobody, ain't nobody breaking down the door, trying to go see. She got a Ginobili jersey. She's all thing. She like the Spurs,

the Cowboys, TC. She like all that bull jive. But they broccoli. And look, they won five championships. Probably should have had six had Ray Allen not hit that shot. Tim Duncan would have been perfect 6-0. But they were boring.

They weren't entertaining. Right. There's a reason why the Lakers got the showtime. Showtime Lakers. Yeah. And people flooded to go see those guysakers. Yeah. And people flooded to go see those guys play. There's a reason why you know Steph Curry

because he's entertaining. Yeah. Jordan, they were entertaining. There's levels. Yes, I believe you can have both. But to say the biggest difference, no, they play a game. You guys have been playing. So let's just say, okay,

if LeBron and KD and Steph had been playing together like Schroeder and those guys, or like the Serbian team, or like the French national team, had they been playing together for years, y'all never beat them. They got together a month.

You guys been playing together for 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 years. They got together a month. You guys been playing together for 10, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 years. They got together one month. So let them play together for 10 years. So let this up and coming guys, these up and comers play together for 10 years. Y'all never beat them. Not at all. I mean, I'm not sure why he said it.

Maybe it's something he believes. Maybe some of the players he's been surrounded by in the NBA, it makes him feel that way. And thinking that the players that he plays with in Germany have a higher IQ than them. But when you say it like that, I mean, it speaks for everybody. And because he didn't put a name on anything, it just didn't make sense to me.

Let me ask you a question. People are going to say, well, how much IQ you got, you turned down $80 million to sign for $5 million a year. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I remember that. So they say, well, how much IQ goes into that? You turned down a four-year $80 million

deal to sign league minimum deals now moving forward. Dang. That's not a good one right there. And I asked you that. We talked about that a few episodes ago. Do you think that opportunity of money itself will be

available again? No. We ain't getting that money no more. That's why after you get to a certain age, Ocho, you have to be very, very careful. Like when I was younger, I could take risk because I'm 23, I'm 25. But at 56, I need something a little bit more.

Instead of trying to get hit in home runs, I'll set up for singles because the likelihood of me being able to make up at my age what I've lost isn't very good. So when you're like 25, you see guys go broke. They're like, man, I went broke. I was 25, 30. You get a chance to break that up. You get a chance to recoup that. Yes, sir.

You go broke at 56. It's going to be hard. Yes, sir. You go broke at 60. Ocho, it's hard. Yeah. To recoup that, to make that up again. So that's why I tell guys, hey, guys, you gotta

just be, hey, everything, you know, sometimes it's not meant. Everybody ain't meant to be. I know everybody want to get on the ground floor of Google or Netflix or some of these other big companies. Uber, Ring, DoorDash.

But everybody, because for every one that somebody gets in they done gotten gotten to a couple that ain't do nothing right yeah and that's just the way just the way it worked but you know hey katie clearly didn't take kindly to that katie like hey bro i play the game i'm entertaining yeah And I play the game with a very high IQ. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sure other other other players.

Well, they just chose not to respond. Man, we ain't paying that no man. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, look, shoot. I mean, you got to expect that when you say something like that. Somebody going to probably take offense to what you said but here's the thing intent and this is what i tell people about intent right it's like i remember my professor dr welch he asked us in class he said what's the difference between murder and manslaughter and you know that's like you know and he's like he gave us this this term. He said intent. He said manslaughter, you know, there is no intent.

Murder, there is malice, there is forethought, there is intent, premeditation. He said, but intent only matters to the defendant. The victim is just as dead. So whether he intended it to be offensive or not, Katie took it that way. Well, I said this, this man that wasn't my intention where your intention that only mattered

to you but the person that you said it to was equally was still offended by what you said so whether you intended it to be that way or not intent only matters to you because the person is still offended by what you said so a

lesson learned Schroeder I'm sure they'll see, hey, lesson learned, Schroeder. I'm sure they'll see each other. I mean, where was Schroeder at last year? Toronto? He got traded. He got to Brooklyn? To Brooklyn, yeah. So I'm sure, look, they're going to cross paths.

I'm sure that, hey, one thing I know about KD, KD ain't got no problem. Hey, he with the Raptors? No. I'm sure he doesn't have a problem. They'll address it, move forward. Ocho, Carmelo Anthony says he would not trade his Olympic gold medal for an NBA ring.

Melo said, when we talk about global sports, for me, medals mean something totally different than an NBA championship. They both have their own separate meanings, but winning a gold medal is the passion, it's the pride that you have, not just for a city or a state, but for a whole nation, a whole country you're winning for. Three gold medals, four medals for me is bigger than an NBA championship because I understand the impact of it.

Not everybody wins a gold medal. Not everybody wins a silver or bronze. What's your take on it you know with the with the way you and steven a and other basketball enthusiasts and basketball heads talk about the importance of having a championship and getting that monkey off your back it would make it it would make it seem to me that it's more important to have a championship ring because that's how you're evaluated when we talk about some of the greatest of all time when we talk about some of the greatest of all time when we talk about the GOAT conversation I mean not a great phenomenal player but the GOAT

conversation you know it's rings and how many times you've been there how many chances you had to actually win one I think there's there's a difference in the gold medals in the championships now we talk about the sport of basketball I'm not sure how you view it, but he views it in this manner. Now, I think asking you or talking to a Stephen A. Smith, they might view it in a completely different manner. I think there's an importance in both in representing your country, but I think the difficulty of winning a championship is a little different because you're playing against the best of the best, as opposed to the Olympics where you're coupled all together with the best players from the NBA against,

I don't, I excuse me. I don't mean to be disrespectful. I don't want to say inferior opponents, opponents that are not as good collectively as us. Did I say that right? Without being disrespectful? You did.

Okay. I think it's easy for mellow to say that because he doesn't have an NBA title. People ask me all the time, Shannon, which would you rather have, a Super Bowl ring or a Hall of Fame ring? I say, well, I'm glad I don't have to make that decision because I have them both. Both, right. It's easy to say when you don't have something. For me, I don't think we judge any player.

I've never heard someone rank somebody ahead of someone else because they had an olympic gold medal now i could be wrong chat y'all correct me if i'm wrong right but i didn't say they didn't say well we're gonna put this person over that person because he has a gold medal or we're gonna put this person below that person because he has a bronze or silver and the other person has a gold. Championships is what it's about. That's what you play for. That's ultimately how we're judged.

Charles Barkley would be ranked a lot higher had he had a title. He got gold medals, but ain't nobody putting him in front of Duncan and all those other guys because why? Duncan has a title, has multiple titles. So, I mean, look, he can feel that way. And I'm not, look, that's the way he feels. But it's easy to say that when that's your only option.

Ocho, man, what you eating tonight, chicken? Well, man, I love chicken. Well, that's all you got. You ain't got no steak. Right. Right. You don't got turkey. You don't have anything. You don't have fish. So if that's your only option, what are you supposed to say? What is what's the choice between because we're dealing with a hypothetical. Right. He wouldn't trade because it's impossible to trade. Well, you think

if he did have one, he would still feel the same way? No. Because he... If that was the case, why did he join LeBron? He tried to win a title. He joined Russ in Oklahoma City trying to win a title. He joined Dane

in CJ in Portland. He wasn't trying to win no gold medal. What was he trying to do to win a title. He joined Dane and CJ in Portland. He wasn't trying to win no gold medal. What was he trying to do? Win a title. If it wasn't that important because he had accomplished everything. He already had gold medals. Already had three of them when he bounced a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. What was that about?

I think more so trying to solidify that legacy. To me me it's already cemented and he is a legend in his own right regardless even without the ring first ballot hall of famer we're not even questioning that he's one of the great scorers of all time there's no debating

we're not trying to debate but I just think the thing is when guys when guys say well I'd rather have this than I have that when that's your only option it's easy to say. Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Okay.

I mean, Ocho, probably if I had, if all I had was a Hall of Fame ring, I would probably say, yeah, the Hall of Fame. I'd rather be in the Hall of Fame. There are fewer of us. But I don't know anybody that actually goes into the game and says, I'm planning to get into the Hall of Fame. You hear a guy says, I want to win the title. I want the confetti to

rain down on me in our colors. I want to hear we are the champions playing in the backdrop. I didn't even know anything about the Hall of Fame until Mark Kisler told me. He and Woody Page started talking to me in 1997. I had no idea that I was even could be

that could even be a possibility. Right. Right. But I know by them Super Bowls, I know being in the AFC Championship game in 91 and losing 10-7 to Buffalo and being that close and he's seeing the dejection on the guys in the locker room afterwards, realizing you're that

close. You're that close. Yeah. Look, yeah, the Hall of Fame that close. You're that close. Yeah, look. Yeah, the Hall of Fame is great. You're in a very, very elite company. You see Ocho? They sent me a cup. Can you see that?

Yeah. That's my number. I'm number 267. Yeah. I'm the 267th member in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Hey, I got me a cup, too. You know? My cups say one. One of one. of one i said it just me

but ocho that journey yes sir that i went on with those guys to go on the road and play kansas city yeah to go on the road and play Pittsburgh and 03 Rivers, and when I was in Baltimore to go on the road and beat Tennessee and go on the road and beat Oakland, I ain't going to lie. I love the Hall of Fame. I love going back and seeing all the greats and seeing LT and seeing buckets and seeing some of the greats that have passed on. Can't nothing replace that, bro.

Can't nothing, nothing, bro. Can't nothing replace that. Don't let anybody tell you different. There's something about because that's what I wanted. I wanted to win a championship. I wanted to make a Pro Bowl. I wanted to be an All-Pro, and I wanted to win a championship. Now, I didn't know how

long I was going to play. I played a lot longer. I was like, hey, if I get me a year, hey, obviously you can't do all that in a year. I'm a seventh-round draft pick. I said, but now, all of a sudden, I got five years. And in five years, I got a first-team All-Pro. I got three Pro Bowl selections. I'm like, oh, I'm good.

I'm goofy. Now, let me see if I can get a Super Bowl. How good can we get to get a Super Bowl? We got a Super Bowl now, Ocho. You can't hit me in the ass with a red apple. Because I got Super Bowls. I got like six Pro Bowls. I got like three first-team All-Pros.

A second-team All-Pro. Now what? And to go on that journey to see what goes into it. All that hard work that you did that summer. All that lifting. All that eating. Denying yourself. For me. all that lifted all that eating denying yourself for me now there are maybe some people might feel just like mellow fields say hey i'd rather have a gold medal than an nba title i would rather be in the hall of fame than have a nfl a super bowl or a world series ring or whatever. But I just don't know

who gets in a professional sport and says my objective is to win the Hall of Fame, to be in the Hall of Fame. I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody. I mean, because of your play,

because of your stellar play throughout numerous years of consistent elite play, I mean, it's just warranted. That's what happens. Because at the Hall of Fame, Ocho, somebody else determines your validation. You got 50 million women

that's voting. Ain't nobody voting for no titles. You got to go through. You got to run the gauntlet. And sometimes you have to beat, sometimes, hey, there are some people that win a title and you're the favorite. But to go on the road as the underdog, that's just me. Like, hey, Chad, I don't know what you guys think.

That's just me. I mean, hey, Melo might sincerely feel that way. And, hey, I don't begrudge him, but I just don't know if the Hall of Fame, if rings, especially in basketball. Now, when we're talking about sprinters, gold medals mean something. When we're talking about track and field, we're talking about swimming, that means something. We're talking about individual events but i don't i just don't i've never heard and maybe because pros weren't going when i grew up but even then ain't nobody said well oh because jordan got a a a gold medal he's the They don't even, they don't in fact that that is right.

Kobe. So if Kobe didn't have a gold medal, if Kobe didn't play that, what, that one year, we're going to look at Kobe different. No, not,

not at all. Oh, we're not a little different. We don't look at, we don't look at Shaq. Shaq got a gold medal. Shaq said he was so upset to how, how,

how they did it about not playing him a whole bunch that he's like, I think I threw my gold medal away. I don't know if that's true or not, but are we down? So if Shaq didn't have a gold medal, are we going down it? No. No, hell no. We can't even down

Melo because Melo was one of the greatest. He was. Even without the championship ring. But again, when it comes to the conversations of some of the best all time, again, the GOAT conversation. It's just, people get left out of that conversation because they weren't able to win a ring. Like you said, Barkley. Kind of unfair though honestly because sometimes that that's stuff like that is out of your control you know if you're playing an individual sport i understand but but you're

playing a team game you're playing a team game where you're trying yeah you can to get to win an nba championship and sometimes things just don't go your way. I just, I love, but I, I don't lie with you. Yeah. I ain't did all I did to get to the hall of fame.

I'm trying to win a championship because that's because that's really someone else voting. I really could control. I play good. I greatly increased my chance of helping my team win. Because that's what I'm there for. Guys that I see every day putting in the work, just like you and I, going to work, meeting, preparing, doing all we can.

Man, even after I'm like, man, okay, I've done pretty good at this point, it still hurts. I ain't thinking about, man, I'm going to the Hall of Fame. Even when Mike would address me, our Hall of Famer, man, that don't do the Hall of Fame. Even when Mike would address me, our Hall of Famer, man, that don't do me no good. We lost.

Right. We lost. Losing always hurt me, Ocho. It bothered me. It still does. That's why I don't do a whole lot of stuff, because I don't like to lose. I'm a sore loser, but I'm a worse winner.

I'm a terrible loser. I'm a worse winner. I'm a terrible loser. I'm a worse winner, Ocho, for sure. I had to mask losing and deal with it by being entertaining. Yeah. You got to think. I'm not sure if anybody can look it up real quick in the chat. Can you tell me how many winning seasons we had during my tenure in Cincinnati? So when we weren't winning, I had to find other ways to cope with the fact that I'm not sure how this game is going to go.

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What's his name? Grossbeck? Grossbeck planned to sell the team. The NBA wants the sale price to be $6 billion. According to Bill Simmons, they don't own their arena. It's a crazy price for somebody that don't own their arena.

But they're probably going to get it. Why $6 billion? The league wants to establish a price which the sale as a precursor to the expansion. According to Simmons, they want it to be $6 billion ap piece and expansion fees for teams in Seattle and Las Vegas, which means a check 400 million for every NBA owner,

all 30. Yeah, I like that. Now listen, if there's anybody that can do it, it would be Jeff Bezos. Then Jeff has any background or knowledge in the game of basketball? I'm not sure. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. If he doesn't, I'm sure he has a team of people

that can consult him on whether this is a good decision or not. Jeff Bezos, a businessman who thinks long-term. How does this affect him long-term and whatever his end goal might be his five-year plan is 10 year plan, whatever it may be, it might be something good that he can, he can think about doing. And do you want to actually own a basketball team, understanding all that it comes with all that it entails? Not that you're going to be hands-on because you have a team of people that are going to do everything. Matter of fact, hell, we could have had Jeff on tonight. You should have told me this was part of the topic. I could have had him call in and we could have did this via Zoom.

Asked him myself. I'm surprised he didn't buy one of the, hadn't got a football team. The Commanders came available. The Walton Penners purchased the Broncos. Football teams come available a little less often than basketball teams. But when you got that kind of money, it's probably worth $160, $160, what? $140, $160 billion. What's $6 billion to him? Ain't nothing. But when you got that kind of money, It's like, you know, hey, let me own a professional, let me own a sports team.

I mean, that's, though, people, the elite 1% that have that kind of money, they're very strategic. And the decisions they make, if it's not about making more money, they're not doing it. They're not doing it. You're not losing money with a professional team. Yeah, of course you're not losing money, but is it something that you're passionate about? At times, it has to be something that they're passionate about that they know that's going to recoup whatever you put into it.

Ocho. Yes, sir. When you got that kind of money, you just like to own a whole... That's why they buy $40 million dinosaurs. Why the hell are you buying $40 million worth of dinosaur bones? Or you may have been paying $500 million for a painting to hang on your wall. Or you got a billion dollar yacht.

They like to own ish. Yeah. When you got that kind of Ocho, what are you going to do with all that money? You can't take it with you. Yeah. So why not enjoy it by, okay, I want to own this. Yeah. I want to. Stan Kroenke he owns the Rams he owns the Nuggets

he owns the Avalanche he owns a soccer team hey Stan Stan's smooth as hell so at some point in time Mocho it's just not like I'm the world's I got 100 billion I got 200 billion.

Okay, and what? So now, let me get a sports franchise. Let me get an NFL team, an MLB or basketball. Let me get a soccer team. He got his hand in a little bit of everything. So, he has the money obviously uh boy that's a steep price and for who but what what what happened ocho

is when the nba forced donald sterling to sell right the clippers yes sir and steve bomber wanted to own that team so bad if i'm not mistaken, Sacramento had just sold for like $400 million. That's it? That's it. Look at me talking about that shit like I got $400 million. He paid five times what the highest bid had ever been sold, a franchise that had ever been sold for. He paid $530.30 okay he turns around and pays

2.2 billion yeah but you you see how steve is you see how passionate he is about basketball yeah how passionate he is about the game like that i just don't see jeff jeff ain't like that i don't see him is now he's a little bit more... I've been around him a couple of times, spoken with him. I don't know him, but I've been around him a couple of times. He's quiet, but he'll talk. He likes sports. He talks football.

Yeah, I done met Jeff a few times with Roger Gavreil. I sat with him this week. I talked to him for a little bit. Nothing like that. So I've had, we crossed paths a few times. And a normal dude, if you didn't know who he was, you'd walk right by him. No, no, no, no.

You'd walk right by him, and you wouldn't think nothing of it. No, you're absolutely right. I met him and his brother at an event, as a matter of fact, with the NFL. But, yeah, I mean, if that's what they're going for, hey, you want it? Ocho. Yeah. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Yeah.

That's why I hate when people ask, when I hate when certain people talk about, I know my worth and I know my value. Yeah, okay. Of course you do. But who's willing to pay for it? That's the problem. And that's the problem and that's the issue uh it says his net worth jeff bezos net worth is worth he's worth 196 billion dollars yeah we are we are yes we are 196 billion yeah yeah you notice I said we. You know, I work for Amazon too now.

196 billion. Man, what kind of? That's a lot, huh? What you do with that? Just hypothetically speaking, if you had 196 billion right now, what you do with that? I know black colleges ain't going to be suffering no more. Yeah. I know that colleges ain't gonna be ain't gonna be suffering no more

I know that for certain I know my community there gonna be a lot of outreach programs in my community my community gonna be a lot better in a lot better shape than what we're in right now I can bet you that I might be worth 196 billion today but when I die

I ain't gonna be worth 196 billion. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not. Dope. Dope. And I'm not gonna leave all that money to my kids. I'm gonna leave them enough to do something but not enough where they ain't gotta do nothing.

Right. I like that. So, oh yeah. Savannah State gonna be well, well off. And then I'm going to trickle that down to I think it's probably 125, 150 other black colleges. Oh, they're going to be straight.

My community? Yeah, it's going to be good. Hell yeah. 196 million. I'm thinking for one, first off, my kids and those I have kids from, everybody good. I'm taking care of that.

I'm taking care of home first, that nucleus, that's very important to me. Obviously, my mom and my grandma are gone. My brothers, make sure they're good. Schools, FAMU, you obviously you know how much i love fam you yeah oregon state got to get back to oregon state even though i was only there for four months uh yeah my immediate close friends and it ain't that many it's probably it's probably eight

of us i'm talking about close i'll make sure they good um's some other entities that I enjoy that I support charities I'm going to pour into them as well and that's all I can think of right now I'm sure it's more I'm just hypothetically speaking right now off the top of my head

some of the things I would do but I ain't gonna be too crazy I ain't gonna be too crazy though right now off the top of my head some of the things things things i would do but yeah hey i ain't gonna be too crazy though i'm gonna get me a new smart car no i don't want no i don't want no uh i don't care about no cars i got enough cars i don't have all the cars if i don't get another car i'm good i'm good with i'm good on cars yeah but i tell you what savannah state sport, Nick Saban coming out of retirement going to coach at Savannah State.

Listen, the NIL money, you're going to be a power five school when I'm done. Nick Saban will be coaching at Savannah State. The NIL? Y'all want to battle? Who want to battle? Come on down here to Tallahassee now.

I got what you need. Yes, sir. A $10 stimulus package. Savannah State ain't going to have another five stars. We ain't got another five stars. Football and basketball. Hey. Crack and field girls basketball.

Oh, the next Juju Watkins, Paige Beckers. Come on down to Savannah State. I like it. Come on, get the two gone. Get this. Hey, I'm going to pay y'all more than y'all going to make going to the WNBA. Come on down here and get this money. That's right. Oh, for sure.

I like it. Man, that ain't right. It is right. It ain't wrong either. So I'm just telling you what, if I had that money, I'm taking care of black colleges and my community. Oh, we're going to build this thing up. Yeah, for sure. I'm thinking care of black colleges and my community. Oh, we're going to build this thing up. Yeah, for sure.

I'm thinking I'm going to change Liberty City. I'm going to change the name of Liberty City and call it Ocho's World. Buy everybody, buy all, buy all, buy all the buildings up, buy all Wynwood back.

Yeah. Because, you know, they done came in and bought up all the buildings up, buy all Wynwood back. Yeah. Because, you know, they done came in and bought up all the stuff. All the people out. They done pushed all my people out. Bring them on back home so we can have our wonderful, beautiful city back.

Man. I got to buy a franchise. We got about five or five of us. We're going to get us a franchise. We're going to get a football team, a basketball team. Damn. Yeah, for sure. I just want one.

All black. We're going to be all black owners. Yeah. Majority owners. Yep. And I don't even want to be the face of it. I just want us. That's what opened the headline.

I don't want to be famous. If they had $196 billion, I mean, just hypothetically speaking, I'd ask Mike Brown to send me the team. He ain't selling it. I know. I mean that in a respectful way. I like the way they run things,

but I just want to be your owner. If I was to be your owner, either I'd ask Stephen Ross, Stephen Ross to send me the Dolphins, or Mike Brown to send me... You got a better chance. You got a better chance because Stephen Ross doesn't have the attachment to the Dolphins

like Mike Brown has to the Bengals. You got to realize Mike Brown's dad founded the Bengals. So there's a little bit more attachment to it. It's kind of like the McCaskies and the Bears. There's a little bit more attachment of it. It's kind of like the McCaskies and the Bears. There's a little bit more attachment of the Kansas City. Hunt, Lamar Hunt founded Kansas City. Clark Hunt and his brothers, they're not getting off that.

That's a family business. So you're probably going to have to have somebody, Ocho, that purchased a team that doesn't have the same attachment, the family attachment, the family connection to it. Now, Jerry ain't ever getting rid of the cowboy. Yeah. So, and they just had a $10 billion valuation. But you're probably going to have to find somebody

that doesn't have the family attachment. The Titans, you're not getting them. Amy Adams-Cunn, I think that's the end of the name. Bud Adams daughter he founded the Houston Oilers you're not getting that from her yeah you're going too far now

Miami and Cincinnati one or the other so if it's Miami Strunk Amy Adams Strunk so like I said you know Ocho like you probably like the wilson's because they sold it because a lot of times you got these owners because the uh what is that the death tax was so great that the owner would die and the family would have to like it's gonna take 45 50

percent of it so you had to sell it. Right. Dang. Yeah. Hey, could you imagine if I own, imagine if I own the Dolphins? Like, think about that. I'd be the first owner that own a team and play. Yeah. Mike McDowell,

but I don't give a fuck if it's one play. Put me in the game. That man want to go out there. You got all that money want to go out there. You have surgery. Hey, put me in the game. You know, put me in the game. This man want to go out there. You got all that money, want to go out there. Put me in the game. Hey, put me in the game. Listen, one play. I ain't got to do much.

I tell you what. Play a cold gym, everything. I'm closing down Magic City for the whole week. Ain't nobody coming there but me. What about the women? That's who I want to see. Ain't no other dude coming up. You can't.

I got a hundred and sixty million. Don't tell me what I can and can't do. I got them all the whole week. Hey, buddy. That's funny. Or a private event, Ocho. Matter of fact, we can have a private event. When you fly to Atlanta?

When? Okay, I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm leaving tomorrow. When you fly to Atlanta? When? When? Okay, I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm going to leave tomorrow. I'm going to leave tomorrow. Well, then what you going out there that early for? What you mean? What you mean?

I got to... I don't be in Atlanta like that, so I'm just trying to get myself acclimated. But rail ain't going to be there. Nah. Where rail get there? True, i don't think she's coming she got oh okay she got to take care of oh zion williams apparent weight loss draws attention on social media zion was posing with the kids attending his basketball camp in spartanburg south carolina

and looked noticeably thinner. He has reportedly lost 25 pounds since December. Zion reportedly he's currently at 281 pounds, less than what he weighed at Duke, 285, and intends to be 272 when the NBA regular season begins.

He was listed at 284 last season. So if he was 284 last season and he lost 25 pounds, so how much was he? Hey, that's 281 right there we looking at? He looks small as hell. How tall is

Zion? Like 6'6"? Oh, okay, okay, okay. Like Jordan height. Hey, listen, the smaller he get the better the smaller he get the better on his knees on his ankles and his hips yeah and that's a lot of force going up and down most definitely listen and the smaller he gets think about the more explosion how much better he'll feel about himself you know being able to move laterally taking people off the dribble listen he can already do it anyway

but even if you're losing your weight even if he's losing his weight he's not going to lose his strength no oh man he can be he can be here man y'all need to stop it what happened you can't even lose no weight no more anytime somebody lose weight oh he on that exempted

you can't wait you can't take those input and ain't that illegal? No. Illegal for what? You don't want to do that playing no sport, man. That's too much. You be out there? Nah. You be out there doing what?

Ozympic, I'm sure, would affect you in a different way outside of losing weight. No. You think he would still have his strength and all that bounce and all that would be there? would affect you in a different way outside of losing weight? No. Wow. You think he would still have his strength and all that bounce and all that would be there? Yeah. What it does,

it curves your appetite and your sugar so which process it turns to fat. So how does people lose weight so fast though? Because it curves your appetite. You don't eat.

Nah, it ain't. Nah, it's more to it than that. Nah, I done seen some people back there and they're 400 pounds. In two weeks, they about 150. That's more than just not eating. Well, that's crack. That ain't no exhibit.

That's crack. Listen. Listen, I like it. I like it. And sometimes certain people, some people are just meant to be of size. I'm not going to say I'm not going to say big. Yeah. Some people are meant to be of size because when they lose weight, they just don't they don't look right. They don't look right.

You suppose they have a little a little a little meat. You're supposed to be a little meat. You supposed to be a little curvy. At times, it just doesn't look right. You're proportionate with a little weight on you. They talk about it gives you diarrhea. Well, stop overeating.

I eat the wrong thing right now and get diarrhea. I ain't on no Zip-It. Yes. I eat the wrong thing right now and get diarrhea. I ain't on no Zip-It. You going to try it on, Joe? But you don't see how big I done got? Let me tilt my camera down a little bit. I know you probably can't see. You see how I'm filling in? I'm all yoked up right now.

I told you by the time we get to Atlanta, I told you I'd be at 200. You ain't believe me. My little Pele soccer shirt don't even fit. It don't fit right. Yeah, no. No, see, I be sweating on here. That's why I got my towel now because I do cardio.

So your AC messed up too? No, hell no. My AC ain't messed up. Okay. No, but I do cardio so your ac messed up too no hell no my ac ain't messed up okay no but i do car i do cardio so i i i've come to the conclusion right me and cardio in the in the morning we don't get along why not i don't like doing cardio that was the only time ocho in all my in in college yeah me and my college coach got in one disagreement. For real? That morning workout. That's the best time to work out?

Before the sun come up? No, it ain't. Before the sun come up? Nope. Nope. Oh, you tripping. Nope. So, I shifted. I said, I'm going to go to the gym, work out between 11.30 and 12, come home,

eat, chill, and then get on the bike yeah oh man hell hey i don't eat i don't eat till 9 15 no joe oh i don't even eat breakfast in the morning i mean i'm my bad let me take that back i eat breakfast in the morning but i'm at the gym at 6 a.m oh no see i'm i'm i'm an early i'm an early riser i'm an early riser. I'm an early riser. Now, yesterday, this morning, I messed up a little bit. I didn't make it to the gym until 8.30 because, you know, the show. Boom, when we get off. Hey, boy, not yesterday's show, but the show. When we had Noah Lyles on.

Yeah. And Vernon M. Yeah. Boy, I was fighting for my life, boy. I swear to God. I was fight for my life, boy. I swear to God. I will fight for my life trying to stay up. As you can tell, tonight, I just took a goddamn...

I just took a nap. You took a nap? So that's what I do. I work out in the afternoons. I get in my garage. I be about 115 in there. And I burn anywhere between 300 and 800 calories. I'm good. By the time I come on here, that's why I'm sweating,

guys. It's going to be like this on most nights because I got to get my cardio in. I got to get right. Yeah. One day you can look like this, but I'm telling you but I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. Give me. Oh, I got. Nah, Jordan, my competition. Huh? Jordan be in the gym trying to show off. He be boasting. Yeah, look at that right here.

That right here. You know, hey, you know, somebody asked me, would I get ready for a show? I said, man, ain't nobody ask you that. Oh, hey. You just made that up. Because I've been watching you the whole time. Right, said, man, ain't nobody ask you that. You just made that up. Because I've been watching you the whole time. Ain't nobody saying what word to you. I said, when they ask you that.

Who's stronger? It all depends on what. Right. Like, I can't, I don't know why, but I can't flat dumbbell, bitch. Man, hold on. I just watched your video, right? We did 225 and you kept going up and up?

Yeah. For the life of God, I don't know what it is about flat bench for me. From the chest here, I can't get it off. I can't get it off. I get up on them damn dumbbells, 120,

100, not with ease, but I can go. I can go. I put 225 on the goddamn bench. I get up under there. I need, for one, I need help taking it off. And then I need help from the chest to right here. This area right here is not good for me. Yeah, that's your sticking point.

Man. Well, you got to work on your triceps. And hell. That's tricep work. When it comes to that dumbbell bench, strong as hell. Yeah, I like incline. I'm good at incline. I probably can do. I did 132s.

I can do 132s because I can flip those. But I probably incline? Yeah – In two weeks? Yeah. In two weeks, I'm going to get them 140s. I'm going to get them before he does. I know – see, he's got to be slick.

See, I've been getting to the gym early, and I've been parking where he can't see me. So he coming there. He got his backpack whistling. I walk into the gym. You ought to see it. What you doing here, ball? What you doing here?

I'm working out. I'm getting ready to train you. Is that what you get ready to do? Where I find when them people, man, y'all be having a camera. Where I get the camera people from? You have to hire somebody. Yeah, I need one of them, man.

I be watching people. You know, they record their workouts and just their day-to-day life. Even when they go places, you know, they take nice pictures. I'm like, maybe I need to start doing that, man. Like, how much a photographer costs, though? It all depends on what you're trying to do. I mean, you're going to need somebody to edit. Edit a picture? Or video? Yeah, video. Even pictures.

You wanted to edit it. You wanted it nice. You know, you want it smooth. You want it to look like it's professionally done. Right, right. Yeah. Because everybody got to look at all the NFL players, NBA players. Uh-huh.

You take them pictures and, you know, when they go on dates in nice places, you know, people catching them coming out the car and... Yeah. Oh, God damn! But I just, you know, I not be scared to add it without jordan jaw jordan jordan got it jordan like the cat when we on the road jordan's like jordan going where i go oh he good with the camera he had the camera he set it up in the hotel room when i go to functions behind the scenes right so i was like okay when i go do a commercial shoot there's like

anybody coming okay i bring my makeup, I bring my personal makeup person, I bring Jordan because he's going to get behind the scene footage, we'll collab once the commercial get ready to come out, so yeah. I'm finna do that, man. I'm finna be a new Ocho, man, forget this, man.

New Ocho. Anybody, every man out there, man, that's willing to travel with me, listen, I got 30, 37, 30, 11 jobs now. I don't want to hear no complaining, but forget that, man. Well, see, that's why I work with Jordan. Jordan ain't got no kids. He ain't got no dogs. He ain't got no pets.

Oh, so he can just call. He don't call. He don't call. He got to go wherever I go, and I'm gone all the time. Right. But he get a little workout in a boss you need anything nah you go here right so he go get his workout in he find out what i got going on i ain't got nothing going on he get an hour hour and a half go do his workout get his workout in right sometimes he go to the use the hotel gym sometime there's a gym somewhere that he he read about him like hey i'm gonna go here he's trying to stay one step ahead of it but

i ain't gonna i'm gonna get it yeah i'm gonna try to do that man chat y'all don't know anybody in miami man that you know i just yeah yeah there are a lot of people in miami yeah i know but and what if they try to hit me across the head like with Price, like if they come talk with some crazy numbers, man, like nah, nah. It all depends on what you, I mean you getting them for like an hour, you're going to hire somebody

for an hour, how long are you going to hire them? Because their day rate can range anywhere between $1,000 and $2,000 for a day rate. We only probably need like an hour. Go back, go back. $1,000 and $2,000 for a date rate. We only probably need like an hour. Go back, go back. $1,000 who? For a date. Now, I won't even... Come on, I got flash spirit, man.

But I'm saying... You know I ain't paying those dollars just for somebody to take no damn pitches, man. Come on. No, Ocho. First of all, you got to pay for them. You understand, Ocho. they have jobs when i when i used to have my when my massage therapist yeah excuse me when she came to work on me i booked her so she was going for three days three four days yes sir all the clients that

she would have had right i bought them out oh shit yes that's how it works my massage therapist in Denver when he came to work on me I booked whatever he he was off Monday so Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday I bought all of it so he was doing 8 massages a day I bought all of them so I had to pay somewhere between $800 and $1000 a day

a day? yes because that's what he would have got had he been working somewhere between $800 and $1,000 a day. A day? Yes. Because that's what he would have got had he been working. You can't take me. You can't take me for my work and expect me to give you a $100 massage when you've taken me away from $1,000.

Right. Okay, okay. Listen, I'm trying to process this. I'm trying to process this. Like, I'm trying to figure out where in my budget because listen I have a monthly budget I ain't going to what are you trying to do

I want to I forgot what people call it if you look at my Instagram my Instagram is just straight nightcap nothing else so in other words you want some personal stuff on yeah i want to know you know what i think i'm gonna leave my instagram how it is right my main page ocho

all them father that's straight that's straight nightcap stuff i think i'm gonna create another page and i don't know the right word and i want to like i want to you know i'm going to create uh like uh like content and then you know yeah get dressed up nice and getting out the car them nice shoes like the nba yeah you're doing and okay yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't want to do that man oh joe but you're gonna but you have to understand like in order for somebody to do that you hire them i mean okay how long you have to book them? Right. Like, is he going to be a guy you use all the time?

Yeah, it got to be all the time. Because what I want to do is I want to be consistent. It feel like I'm behind the times a little bit, huh? Everybody doing it. So I think I want to catch up with the times as far as aesthetics are concerned. I'm a lazy dresser. I'm a lazy dresser. I'm a lazy dresser. So maybe I could hire me a stylist or something, you know, and just give them a routine.

And some of the things I'm not used to normally doing, maybe get out the box a little bit. Try something different for a change. No clothes on. Like, I might take the clothes back. But, you know, just, you know, get some high-end stuff. Have a home. not a booster. What you call the people that pull clothes? What you call them?

A stylist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get me a stylist. You know, have them pull me something. You know, put some on nice. Go to dinner. Boom. Catch me coming out of the truck.

You know, I pose and pretend like I'm not looking like. You know, stuff like that i i just i just i just need to i need to do something new man because i'm stuck in so you look at the vlog you're looking for a person i mean or you could i mean you could use a a selfie stick and you could get a pov your personal point of view nah nah i i wanted to be professional because people hey you ever see some people instagram it look like they they fucking models and shit yeah like that's that's what i want i want some nice like i'm gonna do it i just but if you're not trying to monetize it so why are you doing it i you can how the hell am i monetized it ain't no model i just i just want i like the curation of

people's igs it just looks dope sometimes so are you going to be an influencer or are you going to be wearing other people's clothes I mean what you trying to do hey you think I could be an influencer yeah but what would be my what would my content be though the stuff that they send to you

but who going to send me I mean you see fashion over men you see a lot of these women wear fashion the stuff that they send to you. Well, who gonna send it to me? I mean, you see Fashion Nova men, you see a lot of these women wear Fashion Nova. You can do Fashion Nova men. You can do different things, yeah. You think I can get a deal? You think I can get a deal with Fashion Nova men? Yeah, you could.

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Or you didn't really care at the time? You're like, I want the gold medal. And if it takes a world record, because if I'm not mistaken, you had just set the world record a couple of weeks before going to Paris. Am I correct? Yeah. So I set the world record twice. Actually, I said it once and broke

my own one in April at a company in China. Then I went to the qualification elimination heat and broke. So I lost it for 14 minutes to another athlete and then got it back. And then so speed climbing is a tournament format. So then I lost

in the semifinal round, got sent to the bronze medal match. And then, you know, after that, you kind of got nothing to lose. You're kind of mad. So then I broke my own world record to get the bronze medal. Okay. I like it. Listen, you grew up in the South Lake, right? Yeah. So I'm curious. I always like to go back. I always like to go back and get a better understanding on where the passion and love for climbing came from especially speed climbing so i just personally loved the idea of improvement and the idea of being on the same wall it's the same track every time right and you can be on the same wall in training as all these competitions across the world right so lowering your time through all that and i met a beautiful people beautiful

community in dfw and that really brought me up. Well, let me ask you this. Obviously you got eliminated from gold medal competition and you set the world record in the bronze medal match. Is there, is it bittersweet? Because obviously you went there to win the gold medal. Now I think the consolation prize of setting a world record and taking 50,000

off a nightcap, you had to feel pretty good about that. But were you kind of disappointed in your performance, Sam? Yeah, there's a lot of emotions. Obviously, you have this goal of this is the only thing I want. I'm trying so hard to get an Olympic gold medal. But to be quite honest, I think I represented my country well, and I respect the other two athletes that podiumed ahead of me. And I like the fact that I had this goal for so long. And now I have four more years to keep that the same. I get to go to L.A. 2028, compete in front of my home crowd when I'm a bit older and more experienced.

And then hopefully competitions wise, I can get a big resume of things, keep my world record, push it down and then be a gold medal favorite and finally kind of complete that resume in la yeah i like it listen as someone that also climbs not not walls listen mango trees i don't know if you would know what mango trees are i used to climb the fence i used to break into the pool when i wasn't supposed to be there in the summer as a little kid growing up that is really considered climbing but for you speed climbing it it it's it's demanding not just physically and and mentally how do you handle the pressures right before it's time to climb especially when you have to compete against someone and you you're competing against time is it difficult yeah so i'd say speed climbing is the lowest margin of error sport in the entire olympic games it is 30 movements at max speed.

And if you mess up one, you're kind of screwed. So, I mean, you got to embrace the pressure. Tell any other 18 year old that they have to compete in this sport at the, on the biggest stage competing for your country and glory. And then I was also thinking about the gold medal count overall. Thankfully we did one of the tiebreaker, but kind of chip a much older that we didn't win overall so i mean you you have this stress and you have this pressure and obviously you have to embrace it and not everyone can sam how did you get into rock how did you get into speed climbing uh so i got into climbing because i would climb walls and i climb these

brick places uh around my you know house and my parents were like we we want to support you but you're gonna that's pretty dangerous so they took me into the climbing gym and i met a great community in dfw and that's kind of how i got into it competition climbing and then eventually speed as well right so how how long were you go ahead okay listen when you talk about speed right and when it comes to climbing, how do you improve your reaction time and explosiveness? I know how to do it when it comes to sports and the things you have to do in the weight room, but how do you improve your reaction time and explosiveness when it comes to climbing?

That's really interesting. Yeah, so it's pretty similar in a lot of ways to track as well. So I'm in the gym probably three to four times a week, and then I'm on the wall probably four to five times a week. So you're in the gym doing some, not fully plyometric, but a pretty like decent high effort motions, big jumps. Uh, I can dunk a basketball. I'm only five 11, but I can, I can do it. And, uh, like stuff like that to really get you, get you exploding on the wall, both upper body and lower body. I like that. But it definitely works better for rock, for speed climbing, the lighter body weight you are, but the stronger you are.

Am I correct? Typically the leaner. So think about like the, the archetypes. Think about like the John Morant type builds where it's like very lean and you can jump really high. So I would say the, the leaner, uh, rather than the just overall lighter you are. Is this the quickest you've ever won 50 grand? Uh, yeah, I'd say so. I'd say so.

Hey, before race, do you have any pre-race rituals? Do you have any superstitions or you just go out there and have fun and just climb as fast as you can? Yeah. So since the wall is the same every time uh what i do is i kick the wall and i uh i'll hit the wall and then i just say every time after that i have 20 seconds probably between that time where i set up the set up the buzzer on the foot and when i go i have about 20 seconds and that 20 seconds regardless of if it's in practice or if it's at the Olympic Games, I can do the same thing every time. That's dope, man. So the walls, no matter what the competition, all the walls are exactly the same.

Yeah. Yeah. There's some there's a couple of details. Like, obviously, it's hard to what's called homologation where you make it the same every time to certify a world record. But generally, yes. I got to do that. yes i gotta do that um i gotta do that you're you i will i will gladly give both you guys a climbing lesson no i'm too heavy i think i i want to do it so what i've done all the all the olympians that we've had on track swimmers i've challenged everybody i've tried somewhat this could almost be a series um listen ojo versus everybody even though you guys are at what you do and your respective crafts i do respect it but i want

to compete i want to race against you and speed climb and see how bad i lose or maybe i can win what's that no no no okay if you set up there as you come out i live in salt lake city do you want to come out there right okay i think um you guys are you guys in la too there's a there's a wall in la as well i'm in miami miami okay i'm not sure about that but um we we can find a place right right and we can put you on the speed wall we can do we give you a road to sub 10 seconds and that'd be that'd be super impressive 10 seconds 10 seconds yeah that's long i got i'm sure i right all right okay we'll give you we'll give you nine or eight i mean you can just keep going you can keep going i like that okay oh we need camera crew okay sam do you do you free climb uh no no unfortunately my parents

disapprove i can't be doing that um too dangerous okay i got i got a couple so the guy who did that alex honnold the free solo is a um we want to do um not just speed climbing on the on the regular competition wall but i want to do big wall speed climbing so i'm trying to race up like the route he climbed the nose in yosemite valley like i want to try to do that in under two hours so that's a that's another ambition i got that's dope that's dope man i mean but so what's the biggest difference obviously speed without with speed not being a factor what is the major difference between uh climbing wall climbing and say free climbing uh so like what i do speed climbing is just on your goal is just to compete

and do it faster and you're really racing against the the mental aspect and the stress when I talked about, uh, and then like climbing on rock is such a different experience. And I still do love doing that so much where you're, you're in nature, you're on a route and it's typically harder and you're doing it slower. So the holds, what you grab onto are smaller and the,

for both your hands and feet. So you have to grip them pretty hard and all that. That is crazy. Well, Sam, thank you for taking time. I know and all that. That is crazy. Well, Sam, thank you for taking time. I know you were busy. Thank you for getting back. Congratulations on your bronze medal. We got you covered.

I think you've already received your consolation prize from Nightcap. Thank you again for coming on. We greatly appreciate it. We're proud you represented the country extremely well. Best of luck in 28 and we'll see you down the road. All right. See you guys then. Hit me up if you want to learn how to climb. I'll fall through. I got you, baby. All right. See you guys. Thank you. All right, man. Have a good one.

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