Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Reaction to USA Women beating France + Nyjah Houston Int

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by Olympic men's street skateboarding bronze medalist Nyjah Huston to recap his performance from the 2024 Paris Olympics. Also, Unc & Ocho react to the USA women's basketball team defeating France to win gold.03:40 - Show starts05:00 - USA Women's team Wins Gold31:00 - USOPC to appeal call for Chiles Bronze36:17 - Lebron 2028 Unlikely, KD undecided45:35 - Quincy Wilson tweet48:30 - Nyjah Houston Intv(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Media and my clothing company. That's 84 with 84 being spelled out. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. We have a very, very special interview later tonight with Nigel Houston. But first, Ocho, this was the toughest test for our ladies in the eight

consecutive gold medals that they it was that was scared well i was scared now uh on home soil the u.s survived a serious test by france 67 66 gabby williams heave at the buzzer was good but he had stepped on the line which mean it was it meant it was a two and not a three. And they hold on. The U.S. captures 61 consecutive Olympic wins, eight consecutive gold medals, Diana Taurasi, six gold medals. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think any other athlete has that many gold medals. We saw Mijon Lopez, the great Greco-Roman super heavyweight.

He has five consecutive, but six consecutive gold medals for DT. Congratulations. Sunday wins over France, marked the third time during the U.S. 61-game winning streak that the contest was decided by single digits. Wow. Only the third time, Ocho. They beat France today by one. They beat Russia in the semifinals in 2004 by four in 2021 they

beat nigeria by nine and then all the other stuff has been at least double digits asia wilson mvp of the olympics averaged 18 points which was third overall she led in rebounds at 10 she led a block shot she led in double doubles she showed why she's the best female basketball player, woman's basketball player in all the land. And it's not even close. And today, 21 points, 13 rebounds, four blocks. And when they absolutely had to have it, you had to have a dove stood up.

So yeah, congratulations, women job. Well done. And with that victory, the United States ties China for the most gold medals but we blew them away with total medals so that's what I look at I mean all that stuff I want the most

so would you would you rather have two billion dollars in ten or a billion dollars in hundreds well you got more hundreds than I got but I got more money than i got but i got more money than you got yeah yeah definitely that's the way i look at it and so uh ocho i saw the medal count beforehand sure this is what u.s women's basketball coach sheryl reeves said i saw the medal count

beforehand so i knew said u.s women's basketball coach sheryl reeves who said she thought to herself that's why we need more pressure the u.sS. easily won the medal count, 126, but we had 40 goals, 42 silver, and 44 bronze. And if I'm not mistaken, track and field far exceeded every expectation. 34 total medals. I don't think we kind of, we don't really disappoint in anything. I mean, maybe you want to say Noah Lyles not winning the gold, but Tobogo? Yeah. He ran well,

man. He ran the perfect race. Yes, he was on a mission. And China came in second in total medals. Ocho, they had 91 total to our 126. They had 40 gold, 27 silver, 24 bronze, and Japan was a distant

third with 40 medals, 20 gold medals, and 45 medals overall. The last time the U.S. didn't sit atop the standings and the gold medals were at the Beijing Olympics, and we understand Beijing is in China, and you normally get some, sometimes anywhere between a 5

and a 15 medal bump when you're on home turf. So the Americans finished second to China in Beijing, 48 to 36. The U.S. has the most medals overall in the last consecutive Summer Olympics. Eight. The last eight Summer Olympics.

The last time the Americans failed to sit atop the medal stand. As far as total medals, Ocho was in Barcelona in 1992. And far as total medals, Ocho was in Barcelona in 1992. And listen, you know, I know everybody watched the Olympics in its totality. There were some events I never really had the opportunity

to watch before. And you know, Peacock did one hell of a job. Peacock did one hell of a job being able to show multiple events. And I was able to see some events, obviously, I have never watched before. Obviously, the slalom kayaking i was able to listen i was able to see i was able to see the break dancing um and and a few other events i had never had the opportunity to see before because there was no coverage but they did one hell of a job showing event after event after

event also nbc you know did it did a great job as well. But, man, I enjoyed the Olympics in its totality all the way across the board, especially track. Obviously, track being one of my favorites. And, man, it didn't fall short of expectations. It didn't disappoint. Everyone showed up. It didn't disappoint at all. Everyone showed up. Go ahead, Ochoa.

I was going to say, you got world records in everything. Yeah, most definitely. We showed up and showed out for the most part. Yeah. We got a world record in the 400-meter hurdles, women's. We got a world record in the mixed relays. Kip Yegon set an Olympic record. I mean, we

got Olympic records in the women's Olympics. We got an American record for the women in the 4x4. We got an Olympic record from the men's in the 4x4. They did their thing. Masai Russell, her first

Olympics, and she gets the gold medal in the 100-meter hurdles. We get bronze silver in the 200-meter. We get the gold, Q. Quincy Hall gets the gold. And finally, we're back on top of the platform. First time since 2008 when LaShawn Merritt. But prior to that, Ocho, we had gone from 84 all the way to 2008. American Man has still topped the podium

in the 400 meters. From Neighbors back in 84 and just run the gamut. Steve Lewis, I think Steve Lewis might have been like 19 or 20 when he actually won and sold. And then you had Quincy and then you had obviously Michael Johnson and then you had Jeremy Warner, you had LaShawn Merritt, and then we had a little low.

We had a little low. We had a little low. We had a little low. A low. A low. We had a little low. But I think we're back now. And so that was good to see us back on top of the platform. But I'm looking at this game, Ochoa.

I was watching the game. I was like, really? Really? Yeah, it was close. But you see what happened? That three-point shot, Ochoa? Yeah. The Americans, I mean, got some great looks.

It wasn't like they didn't have great looks. They had great looks. And the ball, damn, they're down. But, you know, like I used to tell the rim when I shot that thing, because my shot was pure, Ocho. I tell the rim all the time, Ocho. I say, if you don't like it, spit it out. But you can shoot.

Yeah, that's what I told the rim. If that thing, I wouldn't even count it. If it didn't hit just pure net, I wouldn't even count it. I said, I don't even want it. Ref, ref, ref. Wave it off. Wave it off. If it didn't hit pure net, I don't even want it. Right. Okay. But they had to dig for that one, Ocho.

They really had to dig down for this one. Gabby Williams, she was sensational for the French team. She had 19 points, keeping them close. She hit a rainbow three, a Steph Curry three. She hit a Steph Curry three, Ocho. But she was playing.

But in the second half, Asia Wilson took it over. She did what you expect Asia Wilson to do. Nefesha Collier, big rebounding on the glass. But it was the two guards, Kelsey Plum and Kalia Cooper. Kalia Cooper. Yeah, Kalia Cooper went because Jackie had fouled out. Jackie was, you know, it was our guards kind of struggled. You know, Jackie Young played really well except the last game.

But Chelsea Gray struggled. DT struggled. But Nefku came in, gave them quality minutes. Kalia Cooper, Kelseysey plum was tremendous was tremendous our guards played really really well but and i'm not so sure we was thinking going in those were the guards that we're going to be able to be counting on right but uh give the give the team credit um man cheryl reeves was about to be on some heavy heavy criticism had she not won this game. You don't want to be the one

to lose. You don't want to be the one to snap that streak of 60 where it ends at 60 wins. You don't want to be that one. That's the longest team streak in Olympics history

where you won eight consecutive goals. So you didn't want to be the one you didn't want to be the one to end that streak. Oh, that's crazy. So with that being said, they did they did what they needed to get done. They had to dig down and they had to dig down. But I think a lot of these characters, I think Asia will be back. Brianna Stewart will be back. I think some of these, obviously, DT is going to be long gone in 28. She won't be back. You know, you have

a little influx. I'm expecting Kaitlyn Clark. I'm expecting Angel Reese to be on this team in 2020 and 2028. But some of these guards will be back. I can see a situation where Kelsey Plum and Anescu and Jackie Young and some of these, BG,

I don't know, I don't think BG's going to be around. BG's probably been in the league, what, 13, 14 years? So BG probably be written around, or BG probably be long gone by then. But the world's coming, Ocho. Eventually it's going to happen. Eventually it's going to happen, Ocho. I mean, eventually it's going to happen.

Eventually it's going to happen, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, Edwin Moses won 122 straight races. From what? I think he went from, what, 76, 77 until 1988. Carl Lewis had a 65 consecutive long jump record.

It's going to come to an end, Ocho. It is. Definitely. It is what it is. We don't want it to. It's going to come to an end, Ocho. It is. Definitely. It is what it is. We don't want it to. Look at the UConn women. How many games did they win consecutive? All those national championships. It's going to come to an end.

Yeah. Yeah, listen, the playing field evens at some point. Yeah. The playing field evens at some point. Yeah. When is it going to happen field evens at some point. Yeah. The playing field evens at some point. Yeah. Hey, in 28. When is it going to happen though? Juju, Paige Beckers.

Oh, we got some go getters coming. We're going to be loaded now. We're going to be loaded. We are. Hey, Miss Gabby Williams, where does she play? She's from, I think her dad's French or somebody's family's French.

But didn't she go to Connecticut? Where's she playing? Who's at? Where's she playing right now? She's at the WNBA. Yeah? She went to UConn, but I'm saying, I think her dad, somebody got a, a, a, a, cause you know, like if you, if you're, if your parents have nationally, you know, it's like Mondo Duplantis,

you know, he's like, he pov off for Sweden. Um, but you know, he was born here. He went to LSU, but a lot, but a lot of times a lot of foreign athletes um they come go to school here get great coaching here and then go back and represent the country i don't have a problem with countries yeah my mother's french yeah but i knew i knew it was one of the parents um and and so that's why she's able to compete and a lot of times don't show hell i can't make that i want to play in the olympic i ain't gonna be on the American team, but hell, I go play. My mother, my father got a passport of citizenship somewhere.

Hell, I go. Nigeria, Cameroon. I'm playing. Damn, y'all. Y'all don't want me to play with y'all. I'm going to play for somebody. Hey. Hey, she showed out today too now.

Yeah. Oh, she was unbelievable. She's a phenomenal player. But the men and the women, they did what they needed to do. Both of them had to beat French, beat the French team on home soil, which is no easy task because you know that crowd was

into it. But it took a Herculean effort from Steph Curry yesterday in the last two minutes. Steph Curry just letting bomb after bomb after bomb. And then that last one. I'm like, bro, why you? Oh, that's Steph shooting. Good job, Steph.

That's what I'm talking about, Steph. That's the way to let it fly. Hold on. Matter of fact, the one you talking about where you shot over two people. Did you see you saw everybody open up? The two people open on the arch? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. KD and LeBron. LeBron and LeBron open on the arch yeah oh yeah yeah kd and lebron lebron open on the arch hey boy that was that was funny that's a funny picture going around no uh in that situation there are not very many people in the history of the game that can take more shots from

that kind of distance you know you're looking at he and Dame Lillard. You're talking about guys that can shoot the ball from 30-plus feet out. And you're like, bro, no, no, son, no. Good job, son. That's what I'm talking about right now. That's what I'm talking about right now. You know, one of those situations, Steph Curry, man. And Steph, I mean, if you go back and look at Ocho, his first four games, he was averaging less than eight points a game.

But when they needed it against Serbia, when they needed it against this French team, big shot after big shot after big shot. And hell, most of his points were threes. I think he probably made 16 or 17 threes in the last two games.

Because I think he was 9 of 14 and then I think he was like 8 of 16. But most of his points came on the three-point shot, and they needed every last one of them. Because the first team wasn't going away. It's like every time, you know, the U.S. get a lead, you know, they marched out to like a 14-point lead. They whittled that thing down all the way to six,

cut it down to four. But when they needed to get a bucket, hey, LeBron found him, Steph started dancing. Hey, shall I dance, madame? You may. And he started dancing between his legs and behind his back

and then bam, and then bam. That's got to be so frustrating. Hey, it's got to be demoralizing, especially for the French team, especially for them. I'm looking at Coach, Coach, like, hey, son, frustrating. It gotta be demoralizing. Especially for the French team. Especially for them. I'm looking at Coach, Coach, like, hey son, you gotta Coach, what you want me to do? You see that man. That man's 35

foot out there and he dancing behind his back, between his leg, behind his back again, between his leg again, and he even up. Ain't nothing you can do. That's one of the moments, man, you just throw your hand up. Ain't no answer for that. There's certain things we have an answer for and there's some things there is no answer to. You just gotta deal do it. That's one of the moments where you just throw your hand up. Yeah. Ain't no answer for that. There's certain things we have an answer for and there's some things

there is no answer to. You just got to deal with it. You're just troubleshooting in the meantime because you can't solve that problem. No, absolutely not. You're just trying to have a temporary fix

because you already know what's going to happen. If anything, what you can do is try to make it as difficult as possible. Make it as difficult as possible. And that's exactly what they did.

And he still hit the shots. You pushing the man out 33 feet. Yeah. But here's the thing. You ran two guys at it. He hit a shot over two guys. Yeah. Didn't matter.

Yes. And then at the... Put him to sleep baby put him to sleep there's nothing you can do with that it's just like anything the quarterback makes a great throw the receiver makes a great catch

ball placement you can't do anything like that but congratulations to all our Olympians we're proud of you I understand that everybody wanted to go out there. And if you gave your absolute best, that's all you could ask for. That's all you could ask for because everybody thinks they're going to. All 10,000 athletes that showed up like, hey, I got a chance to win the gold medal.

I want a medal. I want to get on the podium. And if I don't win gold, I want to win silver. If I don't win silver, I want to get bronze. But, you know, sometimes. I want to leave on the podium. And if I don't win gold, I want to win silver. If I don't win silver, I want to get bronze. But, you know, sometimes... I want to leave it with something. And I ain't talking about no damn souvenir that I got from the shop around the corner.

But if you... Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, if I PR and I don't make the podium, how can I be mad? I mean, I PR the personal best. I mean, I PR the personal best. I mean, so what am I supposed to do?

That's your starting point right there. Improving from that point on, getting better. I PR, but they set an Olympic record. So what you want me to do about that? You know how long the Olympics been going on? It's 1896. We in 2024. and they just did something

ain't nobody else in the history of the Olympics done okay but congratulations all Olympians we're really proud of you appreciate the dedication and the hard work and I know a lot of times though Joey it comes down you put all that hard work into it and if you're a sprinter

sometimes it comes down to 9 seconds, it comes down. You put all that hard work into it. And if you're a sprinter, sometimes it comes down to nine seconds. Sometimes it comes down, if you're a 400 meter, to 40 plus seconds. Or even the longest distance, a marathon, you train a lifetime for a little bit over two hours. And that's what it comes down to.

Has goes out to the Dutch runner, Safan Hassan. She bronze medal in the 5,000. she bronze medal in the 5000 she bronze medal in the 10 000 and she won olympic gold in the marathon ocho she ran 38 miles in a span of about six what six or seven days uh ash last year she won the last olympics in tokyo she won gold in the 5000 gold in the 10 000 and i think she got a bronze in the 1,500. In the 1,500? This time, she got bronze.

1,500 or 1,500? 1,500 meters. 1,500, okay. Women go 1,500, 5,000, and 10,000. And then you got the steeplechase. But congratulations to her. Very, very proud. Very few people would even

attempt that. Remember, you got to go back to the great Emile Zodapak in 52 when the 5,000, 10,000 he won 5,000, 10,000 and he won the marathon. He won it. But that's a lot of running. That's a whole lot of running. Listen, with very little

time to recover in between ain't really no problem think about it Chep the guy won the 5,000 and he's like nah there ain't enough time for me to get ready for the 10,000 so he withdrew not only did Hassan not only did she win

bronze in the 5,000 she came back and challenged in the 10,000 and won bronze in that that's crazy i mean uh uh beatrice chevette uh won the gold i mean she's the world record holder so there's no surprise that she didn't win that but then to turn around and flip it around and to win the marathon so congratulations to her and uh her team for doing what they did that was an unbelievable amon khalif beat Chinese woman in boxing final.

So all y'all Americans who that disrespected her apologize because she saved us from losing to China in the gold medal. But you know what? Some people, I mean, sometimes, you know, people are rude because it's against them. They're rude against their own because it's against their interest. You see?

Oh, she this, and she that. The woman has identified her whole life. As a woman. As a woman. I mean, as loud as you try to ridicule and shame her, that same, I need that same voice

and the same octave. Same energy. I was wrong. See, the apology is never as loud as the disrespect. No, never. Shoot, the damage is done now, too. For sure. Damage is done now.

Ash is eating. Guys, it's been a busy day for Ocho and I. It's been a tough day for Ocho and I. We's been Ocho and I. It's been a tough day for Ocho and I. We had a commercial shoot that Ocho and I had to shoot. And they were like, well, we got a couple more scenes and we got about 30 minutes. I said, no, you don't.

I said, no, you don't. I said, you got 15 minutes. I don't care how many more scenes you got. You got 15 minutes. Because I'm out of here. I'm playing that. Hey, and they got it together quick. Everything, for some reason, everything started to speed up. You don't say that, don't you, Ocho?

A little bit more proactive in getting it done, you know, fast. I say, theoretically, I started 15 minutes early. So I should be done right now. But, hey, I'm trying to work on my patience. I'm going to give you 15 more minutes. But after that, whatever y'all ain't got, it won't be. They don't have to do without it.

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covering that. I really like this, Ocho. I really like covering the Olympics. Hopefully we can do this for the World Championships next year in Tokyo, because I think people really like, and I think we need to bring attention to it. We need to bring that track and field is just

not an Olympic year event every four years. I mean, it happens. I mean, it's tough, Ojo, because I mean, I'm glad they got the World Championship. So we had the Olympics, we got the world, and then in 26 is an off year, so the only thing you'll have is the nationals,

U.S. nationals, and then in 27 you got the world, which leads into the Olympics in 28. So our job is to go ahead. I think also it's a good thing for those that are running, the exposure we were able to give them. The exposure, being able to tell their stories, talk about the races, talk about the way they prepare, some of the things they like to do outside of running.

And it was enjoyable. It was enjoyable for me because thinking as much as training that goes into being an Olympian or being a track runner in general, man, do y'all have a life outside of that? So it was really interesting hearing some of the things that they, they go through some of the pressures that they have to deal with when it comes to running, especially representing your country at the Olympics. So that, that was, that was really dope. That was really,

really dope. You see, uh, um, it is, it is. Oh, Joe,

I think the thing is, is that the fun is what you have with, I mean, obviously you do it. I mean, you don't run just like, man, I I mean, obviously you do it. I mean, you don't run. I hate running and be great at it. But I think it's when all that hard work that you put in

and you see a plan come together. I mean, you see it. So in order for her to do what she's doing, you know the type of work. First of all, if you run, you know how hard it is to run so just imagine running the training that she has to do just to get to the level in which she's got yeah now she says if that's not good enough i want to be transcendent i want people to remember me like you guys talk about flojo like they're going to be talking about Usain Bolt 100 years from now

that's how she wants to be remembered yeah I mean she's on the right track she's on the right track it was tough excuse me I wish we could have brought you more people but it's so tough for us

you know they we had to get up a lot of times to shoot. Justin, Justin Gatlin was the only one that really shot an actual time. And, and, and Q because it was like one 12, one o'clock in the morning. And they agreed we shot Gabby. It was real early. It was late. It was an afternoon for her, but it was really, really early for us. Yeah. And so hopefully in the future uh tokyo is going to kind of be the same thing but uh we'll do a better job of trying to put it together where we

um where we can make sure we have athletes like okay guys you know i understand that you have an obligation with nbc but once you fulfill those obligations um you know, come on and talk to the group at Nightcap. Hey, Rod, you were supposed to come on, so I'm withholding your prize money until you agree to come on Nightcap. So, Rod Benjamin, I know you're going to see this because you watch Nightcap. I know you do. So, until you come on Nightcap, your prize,

you will not be receiving your prize money. So, I wish it was something I can tell you, but it is something I can tell you. Come on Nightcap so you can get your prize money. So I wish it was something I can tell you, but it is something I can tell you. Come on, nightcap, so you can get your prize money. There it is. So, but again, congratulations to all the athletes, all the coaches, all the families, because this is just not an individual effort.

This is a joint effort. And all of America is thanking you for what you've been able to do. The U.S. Olympic Committee are now filing an appeal in court that resorted to George Childs being asked to return a bronze medal she

won on the floor exercise. The court sports voted the floor appeal by Childs' coach that voted her to third, saying the appeal came four seconds. Really? Ocho, really? Is that what we doing? Four seconds? The mere fact that y'all said

it took four seconds. So we nitpicking. I can see if it Ocho, if they just said four minutes Ocho, I was like, well, that's well beyond the time. But y'all talking about four seconds. Really? Really now? Is that what we doing? Because we're smart. And the term that you hear a lot

is that we're going to operate in good faith i like that we're operating in good faith here really four seconds four seconds that's the best they could come up with but but i'm saying they said that there's video evidence to showing, we turned it in within the time. They said four seconds. The U.S. officials are saying, no, we got it till you're in time. Right. But listen,

if I was Ms. Childs, I would've, you know, I'm gone. The moment I heard it, I would've told him, y'all get it back in blood then. You want this bronze that I earned? Get it back in blood. Come on down here to the States.

I'm going to give you my address too. If you want it that bad. Four seconds. Yeah, all right. But the touchdown video evidence submitted by the U.S. Gymnastics shows that Landy first stated her request to file

an inquiry at the inquiry table at 47 seconds after the score was posted, followed by a second statement 55 seconds after the score was originally posted. Right. So 13 seconds before and five seconds before.

So dispute could be a month, a year. It could be, because sometimes, you know, they have these doping scandals, Ocho, and people wait two, three, four years in order to get their medal. But at that point, I mean, look, I want the medal, but you robbed me of an opportunity to stand on the podium.

You robbed me. If I get to silver and somebody's done something and and all of a sudden you promote me to go i don't get to hear my national anthem yeah i don't get that's just a footnote footnote uh was awarded the gold medal in 1988 due to such and such by this athlete. Right. No, but I ain't giving my medal back. Oh, I ain't the champ no more? That ain't what the gold medal

that's hanging up on my mantle saying. My room, yeah. Once I get back to the States, I'm going to get it put in the frame now. I don't care. I don't care what your judgment might be. I don't care what you say over there. Y'all better make another bronze because this one ain't leaving the house.

After competing in his fourth Olympics and winning his third gold medal, LeBron could be finished playing for Team USA. He indicated that Saturday's final against France could have been his last time playing in the Olympics. Could. Could. I can't see myself playing in L.A., LeBron said. It would be 43 by the time Rose around.

That's fine. That's fine. Because you got to think, the way LeBron takes care of his body, his diet, the team of people that he has around him, that's allowed him to play this long. Yeah. Listen, you come off the bench. Right. You ain't got to be the Yeah. Listen, you come off the bench. Right.

You ain't got to be the head, man. You come off the bench. Shit, KD too. Talk about he don't know he's undecided. Man, you playing. You playing. You playing. I know you playing.

I know you playing. I know the fact that it's in LA, the fact that it's stateside, you don't have to worry about traveling. You don't have to worry about all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, you right in your backyard. Yeah, you playing.

Yeah, I know you playing. I know you want to keep everybody waiting and tell people you undecided and you're not sure how you're going to be feeling. Man, child, please. I can tell you what you're going to do simply because it's in LA. Yeah, since y'all want to do something, what y'all going to do about Cocoa Girl getting robbed? When that bomb, what y'all going to do about Coco Grohl getting robbed? What y'all going to do about that?

When the man said, I know, but ain't nothing I can do about it now. Yeah, it is. What y'all going to do about that? Y'all always looking at... We're just trying to do the right thing here. Y'all didn't do the right thing then. No, they're going to pick and choose, man.

Boy, they're picking and choosing to do the right thing against America. You know they're going to pick and choose man boy they're picking choose to do the right thing you know they're gonna pick and choose man but look i don't look if this was the last time we see lebron on the court together what a way to go out yeah beautiful way What a way to go out. Yeah, beautiful way. What a way to go out. Andy, you can't be bad. You can't be bad. I mean, to actually see them in meaningful competition. The All-Star game was nice.

We've seen LeBron and KD play together. They be out there playing around, though. We talking about actually competing and taking it serious. Yes, yes. Yeah, that was beautiful. And the way it ended, though, it wasn't a blowout. Right. You know, it was a nail-biter.

It was close. If he was on your couch, he was on the edge of your couch. If he was in a seat, he was on the edge of your seat. That made it that much better, especially to win the gold. Yeah, it was. Following Saturday night's gold medal game victory, a video has gone viral of the Curry family having an encounter last night with the French police. Aisha, which is Steph's wife, was in tears.

Sonia, which is his mom, was heated and Draymond could be heard in the video saying something about the baby being hit in the head. News reports are saying Sonia and Aisha tried to cross the street and were withheld from doing so, which caused all the commotion. Apparently, French President Emmanuel Macron was about to pass through the street beyond which Aisha and Sonia's car was parked and the driver was waiting

for them. For security reasons, no one was allowed to cross the street before the president passed. Okay, now it's starting to make some sense. I thought it was just like, oh, no, y'all can't pass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One thing, regardless of where you are, you understand how it is. A president?

Man, they don't play that. Have you ever been in the city, Ochoa, when the president come to town? If the president coming to town if the president coming to town I know not to leave the house thank you I know not to leave the house I'm not going nowhere I ain't never seen nothing like that

bro I see it on TV and I know I don't want to be no part of that if y'all lived in Atlanta and y'all know what it's like when the president when President Obama came to town y'all know what it was like

when President Biden come to town traffic already'all know it was like when President Biden come to town. Traffic already terrible in Atlanta. And anybody that lives in Atlanta or visited Atlanta can tell you about the traffic. Now magnify that times five because they got all the streets blocked off. I'm like, he's not going to even be over here.

Why the hell you got this blocked off? That joker, that joker 20 miles away, and you got this blocked off? Yeah, they don't play. Man, you got this blocked off. That joker, that old joker, that joker 20 miles away, and you got this blocked off? Yeah, they don't play. Man, but I live right down there. Well, I'm sorry, Mr. Jones. I need to help,

but sorry, my ass. I'm going home. And you see the extreme they go to for motorcade? Yeah. That's why, I don't mean to bring that up. That's why that incident

that happened not too long ago, not too long, you know what I'm talking about, with the ear? Yeah. That's why I'm, I don't mean to bring that up. That's why that, that incident that happened not too long ago, not too long. You know what I'm talking about with the ear. That's why that was so unbelievable. Yeah. Come on now. Yeah. But,

but I understand. Look, I understand. Um, I didn't, like I said, when I saw it, I was like,

well, what was going on? And now this makes a little bit more sense why they would have been held up and not allowed to cross the street because you're talking about the highest ranking dignitary in France. You know what I'm saying? So if the baby was hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would hope that somebody apologized, you know, because I'm sure it wasn't the intent.

It could have been my family. And me with them because i'm in jail what in jail over there yeah oh you hit my child you hit my child in the head somebody threw something oh yeah oh yeah i'm in jail but i'll be hell out of somebody though i'm in jail he in the hospital two people people in the hospital for sure. Oh yeah, for sure. Absolutely. You right. And you see that little baby? I mean, she just had the baby. I think Cameron can't be no more than about five. The new

boy probably bought like four or five months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was born in May. June, July, August. Oh, three months. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got the hell deal. Somebody got to get it. I got the hell deal somebody got to get it i got the hell deal or somebody's gonna pay me a whole bunch and y'all don't i don't want no great i don't want no croissants somebody got to pay for that something for sure but you know what just

you know it's different than being here in the states one thing about getting in trouble over there anywhere across that water i don't even know how that prison system work i don't even you know, it's different than being here in the States. One thing about getting in trouble over there, anywhere across that water, I don't even know how that prison system work. I don't even know how that jail system work. When you go, when you go to jail over there, they let you out when they want to.

Guess what? I'm a parent, whether I'm in Paris, whether I'm in LA, whether I'm in Vegas, whether I'm in Atlanta. I don't give a damn where I'm at. Everything's staying no matter where you at. I tell you what

if you take any animal and they have a child you can have them in the zoo or you can take a lion and pat him in the Serengeti or you can have a polar bear in Antarctica what you think would happen if you tried to bother that baby stand on that

like I said I'm sorry I don't know they probably didn't really know who they were i'm not i'm not i'm not that naive sometimes we all have a an inflated sense of ego that everybody knows who we are i'm not sure that everybody knows that that's still courage wife and that's still courage mom but right i'm i'm assuming that they did um and they probably didn't get an opportunity because i don't know how well the people that the the the police or security whomever they were

that was directing traffic that was uh spoke english that's not a prerequisite i mean people on the lapd or atlanta pd they're they're not required to speak a foreign language you don't have to know french. You don't know Spanish or whatever, Portuguese or whatever the case may be. So all I'm saying is that I'm just going by what the report said and what's being reported.

This makes a little more sense of why they weren't allowed to cross the street when they wanted to cross the street. This makes sense, the street. This makes sense, Ocho. This makes sense. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely.

But still, you're hitting a baby in the head. If that's what truly... Yeah. You got to... Listen, I'm... There's certain things you can crash out about. Right. And there's certain things you got to think twice about.

But I'm... Anything got to do with them kids? Shoot. But normally... You damn near got to move like King Vaughn. But I think the thing is, Ocho, is that I'm surprised. I don't know if they didn't have security with them. I'm surprised they didn't have security

with them. You know, I'm sure they did. Always. Especially with the family. When it comes to the family members, especially if Steph is not with them, I'm sure security is always appointed. That's what I'm saying. Because I know LeBron. I already know LeBron. You don't see LeBron.

Savannah ain't moving, especially overseas. She ain't moving without security. Right, right, right. Right, right, right. And so, you know, that's... I didn't see security. I did know children. I'm not saying maybe they were plain clothes

or something that didn't stick out. But I'm just saying it just seems to me that security could have handled that situation, diffused that situation a lot. Because, you know, we can have a civil conversation because at that point in time, everybody's agitated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Police tried to y'all trying to show us up America. You know, already think they already think Americans are unruly when they go to a foreign country. So they're already feeling some type of way. Now, people know how in the States, when you come here and police always think it's, you know.

So we're like, no, we're going to shut this down. Such and such is coming by. We'll let you go through with it. So, like I said, this makes a little more sense. That's all I'm saying. I don't know if that's true, but what's being reported, if that's true, that the president was coming through Macaron, if he was coming through. Yeah, you're going to stop it, because if you were in the U.S. and President if President Biden or Madam VP Kamala Harris or. Yeah, I hope you I hope you endorse.

I don't want I don't want none of that so when they come through they come through and and sometimes you you just never know hell you could have been if you're in portugal and cristiano ronaldo coming through they're shutting down traffic if you're in argentina and messi goes through they're shutting down traffic you're shutting down traffic the same thing when you see lebron them and they holding up like bro i'm trying to go right over there. Somebody's coming through. Just a second. I didn't see.

I did not see security with the Mocho. That doesn't mean they didn't have them. And maybe in certain situations because, excuse me, the way that Steph's mom, Sonia, was pointing, that they were just trying to go like a short distance. Right. But the distance required them to cross the street. That's what, I mean, something was reported about there was being heckled and somebody said this and

blah blah blah i don't really know i don't really know what but this does make a little bit more sense that the french uh president was coming through they held up traffic so he could go through and then hopefully everybody uh little bruised egos a little you know um i think but everybody i think everybody was able to make the best of a bad situation and move on. Quincy Wilson summed up his winning Olympic gold

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dang, I really got schooled in two and a half weeks. But you should have saw the comments on top of that. Boy, it was so funny, man. I remember somebody tweeted, shit, if I didn't want to go out, I would have dropped out. Man, I was in tears. If you read the comments, I was in tears. I'm just like in tears laughing

because people are so goddamn funny, man. It's about, can you imagine? Can you imagine having to line up back in high school and run track against somebody that just won gold medal at the Olympics? Oh, them people on Twitter, man. I'm just about funny. Oh, it was so funny.

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fink's now when it comes to men's skateboarding there's no one more accomplished than this gentleman that we're about to sit down and have a conversation with now. He's from Davis, California. His name, you talk about world championships. You're talking about X Games. When it comes to men's skateboarding, he is the de facto guy. He has his own Nike skateboarding shoe. And here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Nigel Houston.

How you doing, Nigel? Doing good, boys. Doing good. So, go ahead, Ocho. No, I just want to say? Doing good, boys. Doing good. Go ahead, Ocho. I just want to say what's up, man. Listen, you've been a huge inspiration, man, for me. Someone who used to skateboard. There are a few clips out there of me falling and busting my ass.

But, man, you're one of the greats, man. And it's a pleasure. It's a pleasure to have you on. And I appreciate that. Good to be here. Good to be on here. And, man, I love hearing from, you know, fellow athletes that you wouldn't expect to have skated before.

They've really been on the board before and like skateboarding. Nigel, are you back stateside now or are you still in Paris? Yeah, I'm over here at my house in Laguna Beach right now. Oh, okay, okay. Nigel, you wrote something on your IG post. You said, damn, the past couple of days have been tough. Since I got home, it's taken everything in me to get out of bed and start

living again. I didn't go into Paris with expectations, just wanted to go out there, land some tricks, and enjoy the moment. But after being in position, with a good shot at winning and not pulling through, F it hurts. In that moment, I wanted to bring home that goal for us so bad, more than anything I've ever wanted in my life.

It felt like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and I think that's just a part of what really makes it hard to let go of. At times when I feel down and depressed over something like this, I feel that it's wrong because I know I have so much life in me to be happy and thankful for. I'm in good health. I have amazing family and friends who are always there for me.

And I get to make a living of doing things that I love most, which is such a huge blessing. You said you were in position. Your first two rounds, flawless. You land some huge tricks. You're in the moment. And at that moment moment tell us what's going through your mind you got one more run to make you're you're right now you're in gold medal position you just got one one more round one round to go what what's going through your mind at that moment and then the pressures did you start to

tense up did you start to feel i mean i like to say that i'm sure you guys feel this too is like anytime someone is very competitive and you care you're gonna get nervous you're gonna you're gonna feel the pressure you know that's just a part of caring about what we do and having that passion for what we do um so yeah i mean it definitely felt the nerves out there, but I feel like I was handling it pretty well. Um, qualifiers went smoothly. Um, first run in the finals, I landed my last fix sketchy, which really bummed me out because I got 87. If I would have landed it clean, I would have got a 90. So the second run, I definitely had the pressure on me, was able to pull through.

Um, and then when it comes down to the trick section it's i mean it's i like to say that you go out there with with confidence but you can't ever go out there expecting to land these tricks every single try because the stuff we're doing is just too technical and too difficult and like so many things need to go right every time to land them every try um but it was it was going really good for me i was in a good spot i landed my first trick i landed my second trick which got a little bit of a low score because i also landed it a little bit sketchy you can see that my like back foot was hanging off the board a little bit um but i still got a 93 for that one so that was solid and then that last trick man i, I was going for,

it's called a switch heel cricket grind down the hubba hubba is down, down ledge. And it's a trick that I've been looking forward to trying ever since I saw the design of the course a few weeks prior. Okay. I've been practicing a lot lately throughout the past couple of years. And man, I felt,

I felt really confident going into it. The first one didn't go so well second one got a little closer and then when it got down to the third one um i that's when i got bumped down from being in first to second then to third um and honestly i i think back on it and when i was dropping in i got my headphones in i like listening to house music so good vibes got the hype going um i felt i felt good man i felt really confident dropping into it i felt like the energy was right i didn't feel my legs shaking or anything like that um so it's hard to really pinpoint exactly what goes wrong in those situations to not be able to put down the trick but man really you you can't you can't

think back on it too hard and it'll just torture yourself because like i said the stuff we do on the skateboard is so technical that like you know it could be your your foot being in a slight wrong position uh leaning back a little too much going a little too fast going a little too slow um there's a lot of things that come into play there. And I feel like that's something about skateboarding. That's really a man. It's frustrating because I feel like, like what you guys do in football, it's like you make, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,

but I feel like you make a wrong, a wrong play or a wrong move and you kind of know what you did wrong. Yeah. So you want to come to skateboarding man it's just absolutely it's so frustrating because you just play it back in your head you're like damn what went wrong what could I have done differently but uh when it comes down to it man it's it's it's hard stuff we're doing out there and it's not easy to land those tricks every try yeah when you look back on things right we understand all that you've accomplished you mean your resume it speaks volumes it speaks for itself but i want to go back to where it all

started obviously you had a unique upbringing you know uh a rastafarian lifestyle how did that shape your perspective on life and choosing the skateboard so yeah my dad got me into skateboarding at a very young age even before i was like standing on my feet on a board i was like pushing around on my knees when i was like three four years old i have uh i have three brothers and one sister and i'm the middle um we're all two years apart so we all we all grew up skating together as a family and we're uh we're always really close as a family so we really just did everything together spent a lot of time outside in nature, lived in Fiji from the years I was two to four. So that was an interesting experience.

And some of my earliest memories are from there. But then when we moved back to California, that's when I really started falling in love with skateboarding. And ever since I can remember those first sessions, like I, it was just instant love. Like that's, that's all I ever wanted to do. That's dope. You know, I, I, you said you started at 10. I read where you started skateboarding at 10, but you knew you were really good at seven.

I started when I was five. Go ahead. You started, so you actually started at five, knew you were good at seven when did you go into your first competition how were you in your first competition some uh like little beginner contests um local contest series when i was like end of six seven um i i dominated all these other kids like i swear I was undefeated in this little mini contest series called Castle back

in the day. And then, bro, somehow by the time I was 10 years old, I won the biggest amateur contest called Tampa Am. And then, that's why the next year when I was 11, I skated my first X Games because I had already won the amateur contest

somehow that young. Your dad built you a park in your backyard. You're getting really, really good. And abruptly, he moved the family to Puerto Rico. Did he give a reason why you guys moved to Puerto Rico when your career is just starting to flourish? It was such an interesting move and it was really confusing at the time because my dad was someone that was, he's hard to talk to about things like that, you know, kind of hard to really conversate with. It was just kind of like his way way you just kind of went along with it um but i would

say the main reason why is you know being raised rasta um i don't know if you guys know too much about that lifestyle but they really like to um live outside of normal life and normal society you know i never went to normal school when i was okay kid. We were raised vegan. I didn't grow up watching normal TV shows and movies and stuff because I feel like that's a big part of that lifestyle, just kind of staying secluded from the kind of normal life and negativity that they see it out there. But honestly, I'm thankful for being raised Rasta because I think it helped me become the person I am today.

I think it was a very healthy way of growing up. But yeah, that move to Puerto Rico was definitely rough throughout those years. I was about 11 to 14. And a couple of those years, bro, I was I was out there. Like, it's funny because I say when I tell people this story and say that I lived in Puerto Rico, they're probably thinking I was, you know, chill on the beach,

you know, maybe skate park on the beach. That's not what it was. I was out in the jungle an hour away from any civilization. Um, my dad, he still made it happen and built me some skate stuff on this farm we lived on but man we were really out there

man that's that's crazy there's at such a such a young age right like when you think about the olympics you and you you talk about the pressures it takes to go out there and perform and be successful when it's time to hit those tricks and get those scores at such a young age did you feel the pressure since you started competing so young or when you were younger was it more just fun i've always been competitive man always ever since i was so young and i feel like that's a big reason why i i got to the point that i'm at but after those big amateur wins, I got to get in my first pro contest when I was 11.

And it wasn't, it wasn't just smooth sailing though. It was like, I was out there with the big guys now, you know, everyone's twice my age, twice my size. So it was a mixture of,

uh, of being like super stoked as this little kid standing with everyone who grew up and looked up to, but also it was just intimidating. Cause like, I'm, I'm out there like, of being like super stoked as this little kid standing with everyone who grew up watching and looked up to but also it's just intimidating because like i'm i'm out there like trying to get my hits in and like it's it's it's kind of scary because like in practice everyone's skating the course at the same time if someone runs into your side like i'm gonna i'm gonna be getting bottom uh right right there go ahead go ahead it wasn't uh it wasn't smooth sailing i actually had a few years until i was 15 where i got like a ton of second places like even my i think it was my first

big pro contest ever i got second place to ryan sheckler um that one didn't hurt too bad because it was my first one but then it went on it was like second place second place second place all the time and then i finally got my first big win. It was Street League Arizona. It was the first Street League ever in 2010. And that was like the moment where I was like, all right, like the hard work is really paying off. And it's only up from here. But, Nigel, when I look at skateboarding, like a lot of times we were talking about what Ocho and I did compared to what you did, you know, being an athlete and, you know, you know exactly

when you do something wrong. A lot of times we steal plays, but in skateboarding, it's a lot of trial and error. You go out there on the ramp and you're in your backyard or you're at the park and you're trying things. And then when you show up at these shows, you hope that you can, you can, you can make it because, you know, if we, we get an opportunity, if we don't, if that play doesn't succeed, we got a whole bunch of other plays. Normally, if your run doesn't go well, there's a great chance you're not going to win the gold medal in that situation.

You're going to probably get silver. You might even get bronze. You might not even podium. So how do you deal with, like, I know this. I've worked on this so much. I know I can land. Yeah. I mean, when it comes to a guy like myself, I do have a lot of options of different tricks

to try out there. Um, and a lot, it's good to be prepared because if you're in a situation like that, and let's say a trick isn't working out and you can try a different one, but when it came down to that last trick at the Olympics in Paris,is i i wouldn't have switched it up because that was the trick that i was most confident with even though i did have a couple other ones i could try um that would have been a similar score um but yeah i mean it's it's really just about trying the tricks that you're most confident with and work the best on the obstacles that are there because a lot of the times the stuff we're skating is is similar to the other contests we've skated in the past

but it's always different a little bit it's never going to be the exact same so it's like it might be a stair or two bigger or smaller that the ledge might be a little bit higher or steeper and all that stuff makes a difference with the tricks you're doing is there is there a certain trick is there a certain trick so let's say like the video game you play the video game mad right and you put it on all madden that's the highest difficulty what would be the the trick that is the most difficult to do that not very many people can do um man there there's so many bro but i guess we gotta shout out the the the gold medalist utah

out there in paris because the trick that he did the last trick which took him four tries to land but he made it happen his last attempt right nollie backside 270 blunt slide down the rail and like for example he's the only one that's ever done that trick before in competition at that i mean i don't even think i've ever seen anyone do it outside of competition um but yeah i mean i think i think that's one of the coolest parts about skateboarding is everyone has their their own style everyone has their own tricks you know i got a i got a few tricks that i do that you rarely see anyone do out there uh utah's got a bunch and it And it's really about bringing your own style and creativity to the sport.

Right. But how do you... So the question that I really have, because it's about when I read your post, I could tell that you were in a really down place. And you're like, I went out there, I just wanted to have a little fun. And then once I got in position,

I'm like, oh, I could win this thing. And then it doesn't go according to the way you had hoped it to go so how do you back bounce back niger from a performance like that psychologically mentally physically emotionally how do you come back yeah yeah it's uh i'm happy you're asking that question because i honestly like talking about it i feel like a lot of people that uh that feel this way and can get really down on themselves and depressed sometimes. They don't want to speak about it, but I think it definitely helps to be able to express yourself. But yeah, man, it's not easy being in that position. I feel like it's a lot of my friends and people tell me like, oh, you should be happy. You should be happy because you got a medal. You should be happy because of your life and this and that.

And I'm like, yeah, like I'm proud of myself, but it's not that easy to not follow through in a situation like that. You care about so much. And it's not only that I wanted that goal for myself, I wanted it for my country because that would have been the first goal for skateboarding in the USA.

So I think that's the part that really I really care about extra and why it hurts extra this time. But how do I bounce back from that is really, man, just trying to be thankful, be thankful for the life that I live. You know, getting a medal is cool and all, but I think it's really about being thankful for living a life that I love doing what I love for, for my life and still being so motivated to still get on my board and have a good time because that's the fun part about skateboarding, man, is like, it's, it's not always training. Like with you guys, I see, you know, the drills you guys do and the practices you guys have, like it's, you guys are out there working.

It's, it's, it's go time. It's training day with skateboarding. I would say the majority of the time that I'm on my board, I am having a good time and I am having fun. And that's, uh, that's really the beautiful part about it. Um, but yeah, I mean, just try to pick myself back up i had a couple rough rough days there after i got back home um but then got myself out uh out in nature went on a hike got some sunshine hung out with some friends and uh just you know life goes on man life goes on yeah yeah most definitely man you're

known for your rigorous training. I've seen some of your training routines myself when I tried to attempt to skateboard, but after falling, busting my back open, those days were over. So what is a typical day of not training, a typical day of fun on the board look like for you? Is it you by yourself? Is it you and some friends, skate park, or do you have everything right there at home? It's a mix of both. Obviously, we all love skating with our homies. But I would say I have some of my best practice days

when I'm by myself at my skate park. I got my own park in a warehouse over in San Clemente. And, you know, go over there a couple of times a week, really get the reps in. But yeah, I mean, it's, you know, obviously the reps in um but yeah i mean it's you know obviously there's going to be some times where it's like shit like i gotta do this trick again even though i've done it so many times but i'm still enjoying it you know i'm not going out there and be like shit i gotta skate again i gotta here here goes work again like i i really am thankful

for uh you know being a skateboarder because I feel like, I feel like it fits me so well. I feel like I'm meant to be a skateboarder because it really just, it never, it never gets, it never gets old, man. There's the, the nonstop progression is one of my favorite parts. And even after coming third, this time in the Olympics, it's already been on my mind the past few days where I'm like all right like i'm not i'm not over it like i'm still i'm still trying to compete the next few years i would love to

make it to la um in 28 it's on home soil in 28 motivation to get there um but yeah i've already been thinking like all right what other trips can i can i start practicing and trying to to keep up with these, these younger guys? They're going to, they're going to be on in the next few years. So it's really just always having that constant progression on the mind. That's dope.

Nigel, mental health has been a, a big, a big talking point with the athletic community. How do you, how can we help? How can the athletic community help its competitors these young scape because as you mentioned you started out you were 10 11 years old

and they're still that same age you uh you know you've been at this thing almost two decades so what can the community do to help its young and help those that's in there that might be being depressed or might be dealing with something? How can they help? And I would say the number one thing is just don't be afraid to speak your mind and tell people how you're feeling, no matter if it's in an interview like this or if it's just talking to your friends and family, because it is so easy to just sit there in bed inside and just keep all those thoughts and feelings to yourself and that's what i did for a couple days like when i got home i had so many

friends that were calling me and stuff i didn't answer a single phone call for a couple days just because i just you know it takes a lot to be able to talk about that and sometimes you do need a little time to sit there and you know be to yourself um but i think really just uh yeah not being afraid to talk about it and um just you know knowing that there are good things to come you know as long as you keep that and that you're not alone and you're not alone that you know that you have people in your corner that you have a support system that believe in you that support you and that people that love yeah yeah and i think uh that's that's such an important thing is having that family and friends there for you um i got

i'll get a bunch of good friends they're always by my side that will be there if i need them um but yeah i mean i think there's i'm sure there's so many athletes out there skateboarders and from all other sports that that feel displaced this way sometimes because, you know, we all want to go out there and do our best, but when it comes down to it, especially when it comes to something like skateboarding, you're not going to have your best day every time. It's just not going to happen. Um, no matter how hard you practice, no matter how many hours you put in, no matter how many times you land the trip, just not going to happen every single time.

But man, honestly, another thing that I wanted to mention that like kind of stresses me out when I get down on myself like that is like, I'm like, shit, am I feeling this way because I've had so many concussions before? Cause I've grown.

You guys have seen some of my falls before. I've had so many concussions before because I've, bro, if you guys have seen some of my falls before, I've had some insane falls. You would think my head would be destroyed, just split open, but somehow bounce back up and try the trick again. You've been credited.

I was going to say, you've been credited with taking skateboarding from what Tony Hawk started four decades ago and making it more mainstream, making it more popular. What was that transition like? Because everybody knows Tony Hawk is the godfather. If there's a godfather of anything, he's the godfather of skateboarding. And you credited with like, okay, it's mainstream now we see it on television now we see it's in the olympics what more can you ask for because it's a global sport now what what what when you hear that what does that make you feel i mean just being in the same

you know conversation or comparing to it all to a guy like tony hawk is a is a true honor my first skateboard ever was a Tony Hawk board I grew up going to some of his demos and being like oh shit Tony like even though even though he wasn't a street skater he was a bird skater he did the big ramp um right he was such an inspiration and I guarantee skateboarding would not be where it's at now in the Olympics if it wasn't for Tonyony hop um and yeah i've heard some people say a similar thing about about me you know pushing the the progression and getting more eyes on street skateboarding because absolutely and skateboarding is a special

thing especially when it comes to street skateboarding because it really it really is what it's called it comes from the streets you know people first started skateboarding because it really, it really is what it's called. It comes from the streets. You know, people first started skateboarding on the sidewalk cruising around here in Southern California, and then people started flipping the board and then they started skating little curbs and then they're jumping down handrails and then there's contests and then now it's in the Olympics. So I think the, I think that's the most special part about skateboarding is it's, it really is so different from any other sport out there to the point where it is, it still feels weird for me to call it a sport because I see it more as a way of life, a way of life and, you know, a lifestyle creativity. That is dope hey listen outside of skateboarding you talked about nature you talked about being adventurous going on hikes you know to kind of um offset some of the i wouldn't say struggles

that skateboarding brings but do you have any other passions outside of skateboarding that you like to do yeah yeah for sure um i think i think being out in nature and spending time outside really makes me appreciate life and really puts me in a better mood when I'm down on myself like that. So that's something I would definitely advise to anyone feeling that way. Go outside, get some sunlight. Definitely makes you feel better. Lift those spirits back up. Aside from skateboarding, though, my favorite is riding dirt bikes. That's my favorite.

Dirt bikes. So fun. Here we go. That's like the most free-feeling thing when you're just on trails, hours away with a couple homies just ripping and having a good time. Aside from that, I like watching basketball a lot. I love watching what you guys do in football. I was actually just watching the usa basketball game right now they're out there killing it so yeah they won 98 uh 87 they won they won the goal yeah nice now let me ask

you this what was that moment like when nike, we're going to give you your own shoe? It's it's insane, man. It's it's such an honor. And there's only been a few skateboarders that have had professional shoes with Nike. So it really is such a special thing. It's, you know, P-Rod, it's Koston, it's Janowski. It's only a few guys that have been up there. It's also just a really cool process. I feel like some people are like, oh, you got a pro shoe at Nike, cool, but they don't

actually understand how much involvement goes into creating the shoe and how many meetings we have, going samples, going back and forth. Does this feel right? Does this feel wrong? And really being involved in that process is sick and then seeing it come to life.

Because you want the shoe to look good aesthetically, but you want it to be functional. I mean, you can't have a good shoe that looks good that's not functional, but you don't want a functional shoe that doesn't look good because the people won't buy it. So it has to be both. Yeah.

Skateboard shoes is all about balance because you want, if you're a skateboarder like me, this jumping down, you know, 20 plus there handrails, you obviously need a shoe that is, has good structure and is going to keep your foot safe. If you're from rolling your ankle. But at the same time, the bottom of the shoe can't be like a basketball shoe. If the sole is too thick and too stiff and you can't feel your board under your toe, you're really like, okay. So there's a lot of,

there's a lot of specifics and work that goes into these shoes. That's dope. You know what? I heard you were a big flosser. How many times do you floss your teeth a day, and how many times do you brush your teeth a day? Because I brush my teeth on average. I've kind of calmed down at one time.

I was at a high of like 10. I think I'm around six or seven now. So combination, how many times do you floss, and how many times do you brush your teeth per day? It's not crazy. I did floss my teeth last night. It's normally just once a day for the flossing. See? See?

Like us normal folks. Bro, you said you six times a day? Yes. No, it was ten. It was ten. It was ten. Oh, Joe talked me down from, I'm down to six i was up to 10 i was going i was going through a two over two crazy you gotta chill

oh man maybe i need to go on one of those natural trails maybe i need to get out of the wilderness you know what? I got to come out there. You're in LA. I'm not in LA often, but I will come. I think it would be great content. We had a few Olympians on. And I think for us,

in adding a different dynamic to Nightcap, is those that we've had on here, me trying to do what they do for their respective crafts and seeing if i could if i succeed so i have to get out there with you and get on the board with you and you have to teach me some type of trick and i cannot leave until i until i like all right we got to do that i don't care how high the ramp is i don't care what i have to jump down we just gonna do it i think it would be great content that would be sick Did you used to be able to do

any tricks? No. I can ollie. That's about it. Like, the funny thing about it, if you Google Chad Johnson on skateboard, you will see me busting my asses. Maybe three or four videos of me trying to do stuff off a ramp

and going down. It's bad. It's really bad. It's embarrassing. But listen, long I feel like I got back up. To be honest, he did no tricks or treating. So he did neither. But I'm anxious to see him get out there and to see him fall. Because like you said,

you Google Ocho and skateboard, it's going to see the same thing, whether it was in 1999, 2005, or 2024. Hey, well, if we get you back on the board, no matter if you land a trick or you're eating shit, I'll still respect it. There we go. There we go. There we go. Nigel, I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. I appreciate you sharing your story and the struggle that you taking time out of your schedule i appreciate you sharing your story and the struggle that you was going through of what transpired you went to have a great time and found yourself in position to win the gold medal and when things didn't go your way you were

man enough to stand up and say yeah man this thing's tough it hurts because i was so close and that was the moment that i had dreamed about. And here it is right before me. And I didn't make it happen. And I'm struggling with it. But I'm going to be okay. So thanks for sharing your story with me. Hopefully someone took something from that. They learned that it's okay to face disappointment.

But the sunshine follows rain. And there's a new day tomorrow. So thank you for sharing your story. And I greatly appreciate it. Keep it rolling. Life goes on. Man, I'm thankful to be alive. Appreciate you guys. Alright, bro. Thank you, guys. Thank you, man.

Good luck the rest of the way. Hey, see you in 28. Alright, bro. Have a good one. The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners The Volume. you will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.

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