Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Rodgers passes blame, Lamar underwhelming,

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 13 of the NFL season including New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers passing blame yet again and Bill Belichick saying he believes Rodgers will rebound in 2025, an underwhelming performance from Baltimore Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and Justin Tucker missing 3 different kicks for Baltimore in a 24-19 loss to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles.03:13 - Lamar Jackson leads in Pro Bowl votes07:10 - Aaron Rodgers passes the blame10:40 - Bears Head Coach position opening up?15:24 - Christian McCaffrey suffered potentially season-ending injury18:46 - Eagles versus Ravens30:23 - Steelers vs. Bengals58:18 - Seahawks vs. Jets(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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leads all players in initial Pro Bowl voting. Lamar has received the most fan Pro Bowl votes of any player. Derrick Henry is second. Next on the list is Saquon Barkley. Third on the list is Josh Allen. Fourth on the list, yeah, fourth on the list is Josh Allen. So Lamar is one, Derrick Henry is two, Saquon is three,

Josh Allen is four, and Jameer Gibbs is fifth. Are there any, is there a surprising omission to you? I mean, no. I mean, you look at everybody, look at everybody that you name and look at their resume to date and what they've done so far this season. I mean, it's in it's in the right pecking order. It's the right pecking order. I mean, some some might switch Josh Allen and Lamar. But either way, it's all it's all based on preference right now. If we if we were to to have an MVP, I think Josh Allen might be leading.

I think you would win that race, you, you know? So it all depends. And if it's fan voting, if it's player voting, it all comes down to preference, especially if it's Pro Bowl voting, because everybody that you just named, regardless of order, is playing phenomenal effing football right now. So you can't go wrong no matter what.

There's no Patrick Mahomes. There's no Travis Kelsey. For obvious reasons. I know they have a winning record, but they're not playing well from an individual standpoint. As a team, yes. Individually, uh-uh.

As a matter of fact, I don't even think they would be around to go to the Pro Bowl anyway. Now, for me, they might be playing possum. You never know. No,

I mean, I don't think I would, I don't think they would have earned it. Now, sometimes guys get to go on reputation. Yeah. Name alone. Yeah.

Yeah. But if, if you look at it, it says they, this individual earned a right to participate in the Pro Bowl. I'm going to say no. Right. I'm going to say no. Now you take three court. First of all, three quarterbacks go. I don't like the way they do it now because they have the Pro Bowl before the before the Super Bowl. So, you know, normally the quarterback that makes the Super your super bowl he's gonna be a pro bowl player he's not gonna go so that's why you get these guys all of a sudden oh he's a pro bowl bro he was the ninth alternate nobody else wanted to go i mean if you want to put a time oh joe

once man they like now you got ninth and eighth guy come on bro bro they took the backup to lamar from baltimore one year to the Pro Bowl. The quarterback. Come on, Ocho. You're taking a backup? You got 16 starters. He'll back up. Nobody else wanted to go, but that's on his resume. Right. But you're right. I agree with everything you say.

I don't believe Patrick nor Trav has earned a right. Brock Bowers should be the starting AFC at the Pro Bowl. At the tight end position. At the tight end position. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. He's playing really, really well.

Really well. With the quarterback carousel at that. Yes. Yes. Yes. And they're getting in the rock. But he deserves it. Man, hey. I thought when I watched him as a freshman, I said, this guy can play in the league and he's really good. And then I saw him in sophomore year, I said, yeah, he'll top 10 pick.

And you could see it. His ability to track the football, his ability to run after the catch, he can catch it on crowd. I mean, he's fluid at his size i mean offensively he has he has no weaknesses right and that's what you're looking for these guys you got to be able to play in space you got to be a match-up nightmare and he's a match-up nightmare for your safety for your linebackers for your corners because of his side because of his quickness he's he's he's he's really really good

i mean he has the potential to be historically good after just lost the seat to the seahawks rogers was asked about his pedestrian statistic and he was quick to remind everyone it's not all his fault there are 11 guys on the field sometimes it's my fault definitely multiple times today and then sometimes the details aren't there in other spots the jets are three and nine they're oh and five when rogers has a chance to win the game late he threw a brutal pick six since 2022 rogers ranks 30th out of 35 quarterbacks and total qbr oh joe at some point in time bro you just got to say yeah me most quarter when brady see the thing is brady is quick man the great quarterback and i'm

not talking about the average guy i'm talking about the great because i think rogers deserves to be mentioned with those guys they ask you about you i'm not playing ocho shannon you know what shannon you're not having your typical year yeah man i ain't playing well i'm not playing well cho shannon you know what shannon you're not having your typical year yeah man i ain't playing well i'm not seeing the ball uh you know i just not playing well it's it's and and i you know um i need to take advantage of the opportunities when they present themselves uh i think sometimes because i'm trying to force it because i feel like the opportunities that i'm that i normally would get aren't there. I'm trying to magnify that. So if I get an opportunity, I'm trying to make the opportunities

and I can't, I'm trying to make everything a home run because I'm trying to make, I'm trying to show everybody that I'm still that guy. That's all you have to do. Oh, Joe, why mention anybody else? They ask you about, you're not going to do that. He's not going to do that. And actually, they got the wrong people that are asking the questions. If you got the right person to ask the question, they're going to ask the question in such a way where you have no choice but to answer it in a way that we want to hear directly, not around the bush, not about your numbers. I'm talking about specifically where you can't dodge, you can't beat around the bush, where you can't even mention anybody else. Cause the question is going to be directly pertained to just you not even

give you the angle to be able to, to, to, to, to put others in it. Yes. We all know it's a team game, but we ain't talking about the team right now. We talk about you. Yes. It's all in the questioning, all in the questioning. It's just, it's just tough for him. And it's all in the questioning, all in the questioning. It's just tough for him. And it's hard, Ocho, when you've been great for a long time and all of a sudden you're not great anymore

and you see your mortality. Man, that thing, hey, he can't go get you them 300-yard games and them four touchdown games like he could in Green Bay. He can't just whip it. When's the last time you see him whip it. When's the last time you see him do this?

The discount double check? Or, you know, his favorite thing. Yeah, we can get that. We might get it next year. Well, he must be playing golf or something. Listen, wherever he's going to be playing,

I know one thing, the Jets don't have no options right now him on the right they still don't even with him there they don't have an option oh joe he's about to be 41 he's about to be 41 at what situation do you get better with age playing a professional sport at that age. I'm not saying that like when you know, Ocho, you know, you're in your 20s and you head towards your prime. He's long past that prime. So when do you start to get better at that age? The Bears joined the Jets Saints as team to find their head coach in the season this year. Ocho, do you believe the Chicago Bears will be one of the most coveted jobs from a head coaching staff, from a head coaching position in the NFL? I think so.

Simply because you have a quarterback. You have a quarterback that you can work with. The quarterback has a foundation. He has something that you can work with depending on who comes in there. What type of offense are you going to have for that foresaid quarterback? Can you find a way to keep DJ Moore happy? Can you find a way to keep DJ Moore happy? Can you find a way to keep Kenan Allen happy? Adding some more pieces to that team offensively,

I think it could be a nice job. It all depends on who the coach is. I told you what I told you. I told you what I said and what I like. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going there. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going anywhere. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going anywhere. I think all Bill needs is a goddamn quarterback. An organization like Chicago would be perfect for Bill.

They're going to give you the keys and allow you to do everything you need to do to allow them to compete in the NFC again. You know? Is he going to be able to relate to the Bay players? Maybe be the 85 Bears once again. You never know. Is he going to be able to relate to today's players? Listen, one of the greatest things in life that God has given everybody is the ability to adapt to their surroundings in the areas that they're in.

I'm sure he will be able to. How malleable has he been in his career? Why wouldn't he do it in New England then if he's so easy to adapt? I can't answer that for him. Well, you just said that he has the

ability to adapt. Listen, you have to be able to adapt and have that kind of success at anything you do. What did he adapt to? He was rigid, hard-line. What did he adapt to he was rigid hard line but what did he adapt we we're in different times i think bill understands we're in different times and in order for you to have that same success some of the things that you're used to doing you got to do them different i think he understands that by looking at the landscape and seeing way

you know what i gotta approach it differently if I get the opportunity to be a head coach again. Because this is how today's players are. I can see that. This is how I'm the coach. Because now he's forced to do that. Yeah. Sometimes that's what it takes. Sometimes your back has to be against the wall for you to see things differently and change your perspective in the way you do shit. Hell, my back been against, your back been against the wall before.

It might not have nothing to do with the game of football. My back has been against the wall before. It ain't had nothing to do with the game of football. I know, okay, if I don't straight up if I don't straight up out right now, you already know what the end result is. I still believe the greatest, the greatest thing in the Bible is adaptability.

You got to. It's not size. It's not strength. It's not speed. It's being able to adapt to the ever changing. And there are two things that can get in the way of that. Ego and your pride. Ego and your pride can get in the way of that. Ego and your pride. Ego and your pride can get in the way of that.

If you're able to compartmentalize and set those aside and understanding whatever that end goal may be, and it doesn't just have to be football. It don't have to be just you coaching. I'm talking about just life in general. Setting that pride and ego aside for the betterment of whatever end goal you're trying to reach.

It'll help. It'll help. I think if he's going to have to be that, he's going to have to be that kind of that Coach Belichick that's on the inside of the NFL and he can't be so rigid and he can't be so structured and he can't be so what he was in New England.

First of all, he doesn't have Tom Brady running interference for him anymore. Yeah. Because Tom was the Patriot way. You heard the guys. Bill was our coach, but we played for Tom. Hold on, let me change my camera again. Blurry, hold on.

It's still blurry. Whoa. Man, get your skeletal ass face up back up by the camera man damn man back up yeah that's better yeah you need to shave too I ain't got no razor

I see them don't do that don't do that yeah you do I Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. I ain't no. Nah, that's all clean.

I just need a haircut. Once I clean that up, put a little sea breeze. You know what sea breeze is? Yeah, I knew. I look good. Ocho Kyle Shanahan said Christian McCaffrey suffered a potentially season-ending PCL. Wait, that was non-contact.

Or was it previously when he got tripped up? You think it happened previously? I, I, I, they showed that play, but you knew as soon as, like, that knee buckle, when he took off, you could see that knee buckle, and then he, like, gave himself up. So you knew something. I was like, damn, did he, did the Ach off, you could see that knee buckle. And then he gave himself up.

So you knew something. I was like, damn, did the Achilles, did the calf go? But Kyle Shanahan just said at his press conference, Christian McCaffrey suffered a potentially season ending. It's over. It'll make you feel. The same leg that he just had the plant effect. I think it was his right one.

I think it was his right one. I think it was his right one. No, he had a calf injury that led into his Achilles. And the thing, Ocho, and you know the thing is that, what do we say all the time? If you limp into the season,

oh, you limping out of it. How do you get healthy during the season? It's impossible. The number one thing when anybody have surgery or anybody have an injury, what do they tell you the most important thing, Ocho? Rest. How do you get rest? They working the dog crap out of you. Listen, they do.

I just said, Ocho, it's really that simple. They can only protect you so much because in order to get you back to the playing speed and get you acclimated to game tempo, you got to put some type of work. You got to put some type of work. Because once they put you out there, the bullets are firing. Hey, them boys moving.

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His two failed field goals came in the third when Baltimore trailed 14-12. This is the first time that he's missed three kicks in a game and he put a major dent in the AFC and the Ravens opportunity to win the North. Tucker's missed eight field goals, but he's missed 10 kicks. If I'm not mistaken, eight field goals and two PATs this season, which is a single season high. Harbaugh is sticking with Tucker. We saw him go to them on the sidelines, said,

we believe in you, you hugged him. If you're asking me, are we going to move on from Justin Tucker? I'm not really planning on doing that right now. I don't think that would be wise. Did you hear the key words you just said? I don't like that. I don't like that. Did he say right now or did you just add that in there?

No, he said that right now. I don't plan on doing that right now i'm not really planning on doing that right now i don't think that'd be wise i don't like that listen let me let me tell you something let me tell you something uh you know also also the chat talk to us y'all listen to me now i know i play around a lot uh you know when it comes to saying some of the things that i've done but all you know, my history and my resume as a kicker, especially in the NFL, I know what that feel like. I understand the pressures that go into what Justin Tucker

is going through right now. I understand the pressures of already having the moniker of being the greatest kicker of all time based on what you did in the past. But what you've done in the past when it comes to the NFL is always, yeah, it ain't got nothing to do with that. It ain't got nothing to do with nothing to do right now. What have you done for me lately? Right now? I don't watch much baseball,

but I can tell what Justin is in. He's in a slump. He's in a slump. Sometimes he got the year right now. Oh, Joe. Oh yeah. He got, he got, he got the year right now. Justin Tucker is in a slump. And you know what happened when players in a slump, it gets to you here. You got to be mentally strong here. Yes. For one. And in order to get back into rhythm, to get back to what you were doing in the past,

being the Justin Tucker that we're used to seeing, you've got to envision that motherfucker up here. Right now, he's getting to it. He's thinking about missing the kick before he even kicked the ball, which is why he's missing the kicks. Mm-hmm. and they seem to be always veering to the left. They always veering to the left. It's kind of like... That's all mechanics. That's all mechanics.

On your follow through, on your swing, you got to stop your leg at a certain point. If it's always veering to the left, if anything, adjust your split. Adjust your alignment. Face the ball up a different way, because everything is happening and reoccurring the same way. Kickers watch film. I'm a kicker.

I'm telling you. I know some of you might laugh at me. I'm serious. I know what it is. I know what Justin Tucker's going through. He's going to be all right. I don't like the words that Harbaugh said. You're going to a slump.

Because you have quarterbacks. Quarterbacks go through a slump too. Sometimes even the best go through a bad season or bad string of games where they just can't get themselves out of a funk. But at some point they turn it around, especially at the position. Once he gets it here, you got to visualize it here. Once you visualize it here and get that confidence back, he'll be fine. The question is,

is he going to get it back this year? Because it doesn't matter if he gets it back next year, because they're trying to make the playoff this year. And how many times have the Ravens, he kicked the Ravens to the Super Bowl as a rookie, as an undrafted rookie. He went to Denver and made the game

winning kick. And that launched him. That put him on his way. We've seen guys. You mentioned the sport. You go back and look at golf. You look at David Duvall. You look at Ian Baker Finch. They had the yips. You mentioned baseball. Look at Chuck Knobloch.

Look at Rick and Kiel. Rick and Kiel had to move to the outfield because he couldn't get the ball over home plate. Chuck Knobloch could not throw the ball. He's a second baseman. He could not throw it to the first baseman. Steve Faggs had a similar situation.

We've seen guys do it. David Duvall left. Ian Baker-Finch didn't end up leaving because they couldn't punt. Rick Ankele moved to the outfield because he could not throw the ball over the plate. And it's tough. Lamar Jackson did not play a good game today, Ocho.

He really never found his rhythm. Had multiple fumbles, but he recovered those. Had a lot of overthrows. He had likely. He could have hit likely on that play.

I think it was in the second quarter. The corner route. You overshot him a little bit. Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you overshot him.

A little bit. Likely stopped running like, well, he got to be throwing that to somebody else. Because he, hey, he running, he got to be throwing that to somebody else. Because, hey, he running, he's throwing the ball going, so he just stopped. He's like, well, somebody out there in front of me.

And then he come back and they defunded the ball. He was 6-15 on third down. The touchdown that he got, Ocho, that was late in the game because if they don't get that touchdown, they're shut out in the second half. Lamar said his mother cursed him out after the game for not running more and not hitting the running lanes the ravens finished 205 in the red zone you know what he didn't play well today uh on a day in which the defense they held they held they held and held and they was needing lamar to be lamar you know what it didn't happen for him today i watched the night i love

lamar i love that lamar has proved that you know what i'm not just a run of the ball I watched tonight, I love Lamar. I love that Lamar has proved that, you know what, I'm not just a run of the ball. I'm going to show you I can pass. I'm going to show you I can pass. Listen, I know you can pass the ball, young bull, but I need you to be special. You know, on nights like tonight and games like tonight, I need you to be special with what makes you you. I need you to do what you was doing at Boynton Beach High School when I used to go watch you out there when you was a legit. Take off with the ball, baby, if it ain't there.

Sometimes you got to go through your progression. One, two, and three. Sometimes you got to look at one. If one ain't there, man, take off and go with that thing, boy. Sometimes you got to go off script. Sometimes you got to go off script and do what makes you you. You're special. You're a two-time MVP for a reason.

I would have loved to see the ravens win the game tonight i would have loved for it especially when your kicker's not playing as well as he should be but who has to overcome that right number eight lamar when lamar is the one that has to overcome justin tucker not playing as good as he should be so those points you're missing that puts the pressure and the onus back on the quarterback to overcome the kicker's woes. Sometimes you don't—that being the pass, boy, drop back if that shit ain't there. Man, take off with that. I'm saying—I'm sorry. Sometimes I do think he tries to prove a point.

God forgive me. I do think sometimes Lamar tries to prove that he's a thrower of forgive me. I do think sometime Lamar tries to prove that he's a thrower of the football. He's proven already. He's proven already. Go back to doing

what you do then. But who cares? Who, okay, so why is his mom cussing him out? Hey, you heard what she said, right? Boy, when you see

the running lanes, boy, take off and do what you do. What? What you mean? You dangerous. Just as dangerous as you are. You've already shown us.

You're just as dangerous with your arm as you are with your legs. But tonight is a night where we needed your legs, not your arm. But we had this conversation in the AFC Championship game. You asked after the game, why did Lamar run more? So why do we keep having these conversation in these big meaningful games where we keep saying lamar why aren't you running the football more why are we continuously having these conversations though joe i don't know i don't know i don't know who so what because what are you trying to prove who can you prove that you led the league in

touchdown passes you got 29 touchdown passes. It's going to be you or Joe Burrow probably lead the league in touchdown passes this year. At this point in time, the only thing left for you to prove, Lamar, is that you can get two and win a Super Bowl. That's it. Hold on. That's it.

That's the only thing that's left for you to prove. Not only that, I ain't mean necessary. Throwing it, running it, crawling it, wheelchair. I don't care. I don't care how you got to get there. That's how we just get there. So we can get these motherfuckers off your back. By any means. There will come a time.

There will come a time that he will need to, like, I'm going to force Lamar Jackson to throw the football. I'm a firm believer that I would rather, I know he can kill me with his leg. I just can't let him outside the pocket. I can't let him outside the pocket, Ocho,

because he's too dangerous out there and he can throw the ball over my head. So I got to keep him in the box. Now, I'm going to try to make sure that I got a spy to entice him like okay i got somebody spying and i won't hit i want to trick him into thinking yeah yeah go ahead and throw from the pocket but you're playing into your hands because that's really where i want you anyway but listen this is the good thing about it this is the good thing about the evolution of lamar jackson this is about

how good he's gotten even as a pocket passer okay you want to put a spy okay bet okay boom you want to have your dns rush upfield and keep contained. But I can beat you from the pocket. I've proved that I can beat you from the pocket and be a throw of the ball. I done showed you I can drop back. I can be in shotgun. I can RPO. I can play action fake and read through my progressions from one to three.

I can't even come back to one if I got enough time. I can buy myself time. I can't even come back to one if I got enough time. I can buy myself time. I can go off script. I can do all these different things from the pocket. So now that makes me that much more dangerous and multidimensional from the quarterback position. I just don't like the fact that, to me, it seems like sometimes Lamar wants to prove,

especially tonight, I'm going to show you I can beat you with my arms. Yes! When we know how close you are with your legs. I'm trying. It's the reason God gave you that gift, boy. I need you. Again, I know Lamar's going to see this, too. I know he's going to see this.

Boy, I need you like you did when you was at Boynton Beach. Huh? Stop playing, man. Come on. Oh, matter of fact. Oh, wait, wait, wait. The Ravens lost tonight. Can you please tell me how many carries derrick henry had uh d henry had 19 over the 16 yard mark he was over yeah yeah 32 they had

they had 32 rush attempts uh for 166 yards which ain't bad you you can live with that uh lamar was 23 or 36, 237. He got sacked three times. I thought the Eagles D-line did an unbelievable job of getting out there. Jalen Carter is a monster. This is what Jalen Carter was supposed to be, a top five pick. I'm not so sure he was. Had he not had all those off-the-field transgressions while he was in college,

he's a top three talent. He can rush the passer. He can stop the run. He's relentless. He's starting to see just how good he can be. He's the guy that you start circling. But I thought their defensive line did an unbelievable job of rushing

but containing Lamar. Lamar, look, Lamar, you can't jump. You can't run up the field on him now because he can jump out the window on you. But I thought Sweat and I thought some of those other guys did an unbelievable job. Boy, they got, hey, that Bron, that Zach Bron, that middle 53? Boy, he nice, boy.

Hey, he nice, boy. The Steelers defeated the Bengals 44-38. Shoot out. Not only did the defense, or offense, excuse me, the offense move the ball at will but the steelers defense forced three turnovers including a fourth quarter scoop and score by peyton wilson pickens led the steelers with 74 yards receiving on three catches with a touchdown but drew a 15 but drew 15 yard penalties uh after two of its catches after the game

pickens said there wasn't anything he needed to do differently in those situations. Tomlin said, he just got to grow up. This is an emotional game. These divisional games are big. He got a target on his back because he's George. He understands that, but he's got to grow up. He's just got to grow up in a hurry. That'll cost you a game in the playoffs.

George, listen, I'm going to hit young bull. I got George's number. I'm going to hit young bull. I got George's number. I'm going to talk to him. Listen, take some of that fun, some of that energy that you display that you're being penalized for and turn that into entertainment. Turn it into entertainment. It's okay to be the villain. Enjoy being the villain.

Embrace being the villain, but do it in a way where it's organized chaos within the game of football. Have fun within the game of football without having to get those penalties. I'm telling you, it's going to pay dividends in the long run. He has to understand that,

you know, the gun gesture, you know, in the end zone, you know, after, after. You can't. They don't, but you know you can't do that. And I know, chat, fans, I know, air guns and bullets don't they don't but they but they know but you know you can't do that and i know

chat fans i know air guns right and bullets don't kill anybody but the nfl right right we don't want that if your boss tell you you cannot come to work with kathy khakis don't bring your ass to work with khakis yeah i mean i i don't get it. Ocho, we knew, Ocho, if we wore our socks to a certain height, the NFL said, we want your knees covered. I expected to get a fine

if I met more than two plays and I didn't pull my socks up. But you can't say, well, what did the socks... And I used to ask all the time, what does my socks got to do? They say, Shannon, we want uniformity. They say, Shannon, we want uniformity.

They say, Shannon, we let you do yours. And if somebody going to come out there with footies and then somebody going to come out here and then everybody going to start looking like an all tournament team. They say, we want to,

we say we want everybody. We want every, we want uniform. Shannon, we're the national football league and we're trying to set example. I said, okay, but Oh,

Joe, they, you remember, they cut that out before you got to the league. The throat slashing gesture. They cut that out. Listen. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can't do that. They cut that out. Anything, anything violent or sexual in nature, air humping ain't got nothing to do. Ain't nobody ever got pregnant by air humping.

No dry hunting. Yeah. But they cut it out. So, Pete fans, please stop saying because you know the rule. George knows the rule. You can't do that. Outside of knowing the rules, you got to understand and to remember those rules when you engage in war at the time of war when you plan you said you got to remember that all you need to do i'm telling

you i'm gonna talk to him i'm gonna talk to him i'm gonna hit him tomorrow bro you need to take that same energy and the stuff you want to do and turn it into something else in a fun entertainment type of way where it's engaging for us and for those watching where it doesn't cost your team. There's a way to do it. I mastered that. You know, there's a way to do it. You know, as far as your players concerned. Yes. And you good.

Keep on playing ball. But I don't want. This is what I don't want. Because they're young. Because they're young. So Coach Tomlin has to be careful with what he say, because you don't want to lose a player like that. Up here, huh?

Up here. You don't want to take too much. You don't want to pull the reins back too much hard, because you're going to lose what makes George Pickens George Pickens. But you can't hurt your team like that, though. You can't. You can't. Thank you.

We just saw this on Thursday with Jamison Williams. Yeah. We just saw it Thursday where he threw the ball in the guy's face. Yeah. Remember? On the sideline. Yeah. We just saw it.

Ocho, even if I'm speeding, if I'm going eight in the school zone, I can't tell them, ain't no kids in school. You can't go eight in a school in a school zone. It's still a school zone. The kids are in school or not. You can't make that gesture. Even if you have no gun, even if there is no bullet, you can't make a sexual gesture. You can't make a violent gesture.

So please, please, people stay off the Internet. Talk about ain't no gun, ain't nobody ever been killed by that because you can't do it. The league says we're going to penalize you, but it's not the league penalizing you. You're penalizing your team. And it hurts you today, but it doesn't have to be you when it matters most. When you leave the expected, you get an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. And now what was a field goal, they back you up. Because a lot of times, that's after the fact. Now they back you up.

What happens if it's second down and you get one of those? The down counts. So now instead of being second and five, it's second and 20. Or it's third and 20. or it's third and five third and 20 or it's third and 15 you see it's things like that you have to you have to think about in real time ojo it's too late for you and i to have this conversation say ojo yeah we try to tell him it's too late it's too late so just learn from others that have made those mistakes

so you don't have to be a footnote. Got a costly penalty. Ocho, but I try to tell you. Now, people will tell you Joe Burrow played great. Ocho might come out here and tell you Joe Burrow played great. His defense, if your defense is bad, Ocho, as an offense,

what can't you do if your defense is bad? Tell the people at home how many turnovers Joe Burrow made. He had three turnovers. But, Bunk, before you say that, wait, wait, wait. How many points did they leave to the Steelers? 14 to 21. Well, 17. How much?

How many? They got a scooping score and they got a field goal right before that. That's 10. That's 10 points, right? Can I say something real quick? Okay. Just for the chat, for better context. Let me get energized real quick.

You know, it's hard for me to defend my bangles. It's hard for me to defend my bangles. But for better context in those turnovers, now one was a tip. Cam Hayward tipped it. Boom. Pick. Scoop and score. Boom. Cam Hayward tipped it. Boom. Pick. Scoop and score. Boom. Running with the ball. TJ Watt. Great play. And I think it was a highsmith. It was a highsmith that

beat Orlando Brown off the edge. Hey, Maron. Yeah. I don't think it was high. It might have been the other guy. The other guy. I think it was like it might have been 51 Wilson. He might have called the Zach Hansen. Listen, listen for one in that scenario or lendo brown i'm not sure what the bangles are doing there's no reason why lendo brown should be on the field if he can't walk if he can't if you can't walk that means you can't play left tackle there's no reason you

should be on the field but if you are on the field then that's the onus is on the offensive line or the goddamn offensive coordinator hell let's slide protection that way because he's not fully healthy. Obviously, we saw it. They can't. You're going to slide protection away from T.J. Watt? We got to leave Mims over there. We got to leave Mims by itself, one-on-one. Yes, I know.

Listen to me, y'all. Oh, well, T.J. Watt is about to break the NFL record. Look what happened. Look what happened. That cost us. That cost. If he's hurt, goddamn fly to the left,

put the running back up there and goddamn chip. Got to put the tight end over there and chip. You got to do something to help him. If you have a player out there that is hurt.

And it cost us offensively. I get it. That was a scooping score. Ocho. But your guy has got to take care of the football, Ocho. You know if your defense, you have one of the two or three worst defenses in football.

You can't turn it over. Listen, there's nothing I can say about that, but it is his blind side, though. That is his blind side. He has no idea that two seconds after the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking the ball out of his hands. Again, you got to listen. I'm not making no excuses. You got to have two hands on the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking the ball out of his hands again you got listen i'm not making no excuses you got to have two hands on the ball yeah you do that oh hello so i can make that case for daniel jones all them sacks that ain't on daniel jones all those turnovers every quarterback to turn the ball over because what they're doing is that you're making excuses for joy b because he had 300 yards passing and three touchdowns. I would just give you better context of how the fumbles happen.

So who cares? Yes, sir. Did he have the ball in his hand? So all those fumbles and interceptions, what you call them, we saw Patrick Mahomes two two years ago how many caroms that he has seven interceptions uh and like three or four pick sixes that went through the receiver's hands when you fumble the ball and your defense is bad all i know is this patrick mahomes got to the super Bowl with the second or third worst

defense in the NFL. That is the bargain because what has happened is that we've allowed Joe Burrow, and he's a really good, he's a great quarterback, but we've allowed that one-year run to taint us because we feel he can do no wrong. Because every year, he's ranked above Lamar.

Lamar is more accomplished than Joe Burrow. We rank him ahead of Josh Allen. He throws a beautiful ball. He puts up every year he's ranked above Lamar. Lamar is more accomplished than Joe Burrow. We rank him ahead of Josh Allen. He throws a beautiful ball. He puts up big numbers. But at what point in time do we hold him accountable like we have all the other great quarterbacks

that haven't fulfilled the promise of what we expected them to be? Because we make excuses. We're like, well, his blind side. Man, look at Mahomes' offensive line. Is Mahomes' offensive line any worse than Cincinnati's? His tackle's bad.

One team got a level-to-one record. And so, that's the thing. If you just looked at the stats, you're like, this man threw for 309 and three touchdowns? But he had a scooping score that the ball was in his hand.

That gave him seven points. And then he had another fumble that gave him 10 points. So now if I take those 10 points off the board, how many points did they get? They scored 44. If I take those 10s, Cincinnati scored 38. They win the game 38-34. Yeah. Ta-da!

You right. Listen, Listen, I'm already hurting right now as it is. I don't need you to continue to pour salt in my wounds. I know. I know because I've been on my soapbox. We talked about this, Ocho. And I've been continuing to let down.

I've been continuing to let down week in, week out. Huh? Well, get your ass off it. Get your ass off that box. I'm off of it. Because you know the higher up you are, the easier to target you to hit.

When snipers shooting at you, what do they try to do? When snipers are shooting, they're at a high elevation. But when you show your hand, that's when they can put that bang on you. You better get low to the ground, get out the box, say, hey, man,

I thought my big was going to be better this year. It's over for y'all now. You know it's over now. I thought mine was going to be better. Matter of fact, and listen, I was listening to Joe. Joe said we could win seven of the last nine.

There's a possibility. So when he said that in front of the, I was hyped. How? I was hyped. I was ready. I've been was hype. I was ready. I've been talking cash. You know what?

I've been making bets with Ryan Clark. I can't even eat McDonald's till January now. Yeah, but you know what? Yes. Listen. And you can't say football till January. Oh, because we lost? You lost like five in a row.

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Now, you turn the ball over, you give them points. And if you give them points on your possession, oh, don't cry. No, no, don't cry. Uh-uh. No, don't cry. You ain't crying yet, Chad. Don't let it fool you.

You should be crying. Sorry. We gonna be alright. We gonna be alright. No, y'all ain't. Next year? Y'all ain't gonna be alright this year. It's bad. You don't got them people. You have people in Cincinnati

believing you. Man, Ocho said we're going to be all right. Not everybody. Not everybody. Ain't doing nothing but eating chili and hot dogs. Mm-mm. Stand up. Stand up in your chair. Come closer. You blurry. You blurry. No, no, no. You bring your ass back into

focus y'all got Ocho crying bingo bingo what y'all bingo nation

bingo country what y'all we'll be back we'll be back next year that's what Custer said when they sent

his ass out there he said I'll be back and they ain't seen his ass he went up to Big Horn and they ain't seen his ass since

that was in 1875, 78. What was that? When did the city bull get on the coast? I think that was somewhere between 75 and 78. We'll be back next year. I don't care what nobody say. That's okay. We had a bad season.

Sometimes people have bad seasons. Sometimes people have some of the greatest players on offense. And sometimes things don't go the way you want it to go. Sometimes they like you. Hold on. You can talk your ass off. I ain't finna listen. We didn't come here for that.

I'm trying to laugh and keep from crying. Let's change the topic, man. Shoot, man. No, we ain't finna change no topic. That ain't what we do do we don't duck no chat do y'all expect nightcap to duck or top it do y'all expect us to move on so quickly no lesson we gotta address it your defense is historically bad they've been bad but if you go back and look at it the the bals had Kansas City dead to right.

What happened? Right. Drip sack, scoop and score. Touchdown. They had the Ravens, again, dead to right at home. What happened, Ocho? Yeah. Joey B picked Marlon Humphrey.

At some point in time, even your great numbers can be overshadowed. If you are the one that puts the ball in halfway, he's done it. We've seen it, but nobody, everybody just wants to look at the stats. Oh, he played great.

What about those three turnovers that gave the other team, the football or gave the other team points do we not count that we counted for everybody else we rip quarterbacks that turn the ball over at the end of the day is his responsibility to take care of the football right it's greater player than he is all this is saying to me is is joe burrow is going to basically have to do he has to he has to put on the Superman cape because our defense is playing so bad, right?

He has to do what Josh Allen is doing. If Josh Allen can do it and he can overcome himself and not make the mistakes he made in the past and has his team playing the way he has them playing, Joe Burrow has to do the same thing. And he has to do it with a much better supporting cast offensively.

That's it sounds easy, but it's not easy to do. Josh Allen makes it look easy, but it's not easy to do. But I understand where you're coming from. I remember when Peyton Manning had those bad defenses

in Indy. And even he was putting up those numbers. Oh, Peyton Manning can't get the gun in the big game. Peyton Manning, yada, yada, yada. Even though his defense was historically bad, y'all didn't make the excuses for Peyton that you make for Joe Burrow. And I just need to know why. I got time.

I took a nap today too. I took a nap today after we thought no we're good well i need to tell i need you to tell me why why did joe burrow getting a pass we never i said he didn't play well i said he didn't play well now when you said about the three turnovers i just wanted to add a little context on the turnover just say they weren't all his fault but on the stat sheet guess who guess whose name is by them turnovers? Yeah. Ocho, when is the strip? Hold on.

When have we not given a strip sack to the quarterback? You know what I just said? I just said on the stat sheet, who are the turnovers on? Whose name is there? The quarterback. I know. I'm just saying. I was just trying to give a little context on what

happened or whatnot, but he didn't play. He didn't play as well as he needs to play. Joe Burrow needs to understand. And I'm sure he understands. And he will have this conversation with his head coach, with his officer coordinator and with his quarterback coach. You have to protect the ball. You have to, in order for us to even have a chance to win going on from this season and later on in the future you have to be the best at protecting the ball and not turn it over because if our defense is not playing as well or playing the way they played this year at any point there is no way for us to overcome those mistakes. Oh, look.

And we're not finna move on, because I'm not finna let you do this to Russ. And Russ, you trust. I do. You say you love Russ. I love Russ. Well, let's give Russ some flowers. I was the only one standing on the soapbox for Russ, too, now. Don't do that. Yeah.

You were. Russ, 29 of 38, 414, which is a career high, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sensational today. His career high. He knew, like, look, as good as our defense is, their offense is going to score. It is incumbent upon me as the quarterback and one of the leaders of this, where he is the de facto leader on offense.

Oh, we can have our way with these guys, boys. And think about it, Ocho. You did get some. That was nice. That was good. Listen, boom, pointed attack. Nice little jam. Boom. Eyes on the ball. Oh, we're going the other way.

I ski. I ski. Let's go. Yeah, that was right. I thought, listen, after that play, I thought we was going to run away with the game. That was a... Yeah. And I remember... Do y'all remember when Peyton Manning was losing to Tom Brady? Oh, he had never

beat Tom. And Peyton was winning was losing to Tom Brady? Oh, he had never beat Tom. And Peyton was winning MVP, but Tom was winning Super Bowls. He wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton, but he was winning. Oh, Peyton had never won. I remember he got beat 41-0 by Chad Pennington. He got beat by Billy Bowling. Oh, they were just ripping Peyton. Ripping him.

His defense weren't very good. Even his owner, when Peyton talk about I don't, I won't, I don't want championships. I don't want no Star Awards numbers. Because he feel that Peyton underperformed. And now, Peyton, go back and look at

Peyton numbers. That man won four MVPs, and all of them wasn't in no Super Bowl seasons. Fans, media alike killed him. Me too. I was one of them. Yep.

Me too. Yep. Right. I can look at what I was on CBS. Beat him up. Everybody did. But now, well,

Shannon, uh, uh, uh, his defense, y'all didn't say that when Peyton had a bad defense. Y'all just said he couldn't stand up to Tom Brady. He lost the Super Bowl.

Go look at Peyton's numbers in the Super Bowl. But he had that one pick six, Tracy Porter, red and white. They came with a zero blitz. He undercut the under route, and he peaced them out. Y'all got to stop this. Y'all got very, very short memories. But what I'm seeing, Ocho, over what i'm seeing if we like somebody we'll make every excuse in the world for him yes i don't give a damn what he does or what he or she does if we like you but i'm gonna call it straight

down the middle y'all know how i am now y'all get on me and say shannon okay yes i do y'all know i do go back and check my track record at CBS if y'all don't think I called it down the middle. Me too. Me too. Yeah, check my track record. Yeah. Russ,

hey, see, but here's the thing. Hey, guys, when people y'all keep saying get that man his flowers. Don't give me my flowers. I'll plant my own damn garden. I'll grow my own damn flowers. And I'll pick my own. I'm tired of y'all.

Y'all don't want to get people. Russ, plant your own damn flowers. Grow your own garden. Hold on, hold on, hold on. And pluck your own flowers and put them on display. I don't need nobody. Don't give me no more flowers. I don't want them. I got my own garden. I'm on the i don't need nobody don't give me no more flowers i don't want them i got my own garden on the road but i got a notepad yeah i don't need y'all to give my flowers because i'm finna what'd you say plant plant my own

oh my god yeah yes i whatever whatever whatever you want what you want you want roses you want daisies you want lilies you want petunias you know what I want I want tulips because I thought hey yeah I saw a movie story and Lena Horne she liked tulips so I'm gonna give me some tulips

Russ listen Russ is in the ideal situation he's with a coach that understands quarterbacks not that he can coach him but he understands

the psyche of a quarterback and the one thing you can't do with a quarterback is beat him up mentally and I think Sean Payton beat him up mentally. And I think Sean Payton beat him up mentally. For whatever

reason, Sean never embraced Russ. He never gave, he tolerated him. He's like, I got a year with him, and I'm not so sure that Russ could have done anything other than going to the Super Bowl that would have ingratiated himself with

Sean Payton. Sean Payton has a guy now, and he has a young guy. And young guys, for the most part, Ocho, they're happy to be there, even though they're first-round pick, and they can stomach a little more. Russ is a vet. Russ has been to Super Bowls. Russ is a multiple-time Pro Bowl player. He's like, why are you talking to me like that?

Yeah. What? Okay, go ahead. He's been, why are you talking to me like that? Yeah. Hey, one, one. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. He's been. I was going to say, no, no, no, no, no. Those that have been watching, obviously, you know, because you got on me about it, is I've been giving Russ his flowers for a very long time, even when he was in Denver. You know, you, you, you, you, you, you was getting into him because things weren't the way they should be going.

I always stood on that soapbox for Russell Wilson because I understood there's no way, there's no way that a player like Russ that was with the Seattle Seahawks, that has played well at a high level for so many years and all of a sudden could go to Denver and things just weren't right. I think the situation and the scenario that he was in and the pressure that Sean Payton,

who kept challenging him, berating him as a head coach. I didn't I just knew that wasn't the right fit. And I understood once he got over there with the Steelers. I said it soon as he got there. I say, man, this is perfect. He's going with the right coach, the right type of coach, winning coach with the right mentality that knows how to deal with him. And Arthur Smith has put Russell Wilson in some great positions and understanding his strengths and his weaknesses,

knowing what he can do and what he can't do anymore than he used to do in Seattle. And he's been paying dividends off of him, man. And it's been perfect. It's been perfect. Yeah, he's been, look, he's been good.

I don't know if he would have ever been what he is right now in in denver with sean payton look that first year we got to chalk that up because ain't nobody's being good under nathaniel hackett ain't nobody he got fired in denver and he lost his play calling duties in green bay i mean excuse me in in the jets so nobody so we can we can't say you you know what, Russ, we're going to just, that first year, now whatever happened with you, like I said, I don't know, but it just seems like he was never egratiated.

Sean didn't put his arms around him. It's like, I'm happy to have you as my quarterback for whatever reasons. And it was best that they go, you know, you go your way, I go mine. And we're both better for it. The Broncos are doing quite well. The Pittsburgh Steelers are leading their division.

They're doing extremely well. And I'm happy for both because this match wasn't going to work in Denver. Right. Not Russ and Sean Payton. Maybe it's with somebody else. Right. But not that. But Russ needed to go

and get built back up. He had to start. He had to start from scratch. He had to start from scratch. And what better place to go than with Mike Tomlin, who's on firm, loyal, firm footing.

He has a firm foundation. He ain't going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere. And so, Rodgers, a long shot. They're talking about potentially I said something. What did that article say? They don't know if he's going to start

moving forward. They going to bench who? In favor of who? Aaron Rodgers. It don't matter because I'm getting the same results. Listen, you think about benching Aaron Rodgers over there in New York right now, he will

flip every table. He's going to take a bite out. That's okay. He's going to be gone next year. We'll straighten it back up. He's going to be gone anyway. They wouldn't do that. He's not going to go out quietly. They wouldn't do that. And he's not going to go out quietly. I don't see Aaron Rodgers

as the type of quarterback that's going to take benching him well. I don't see him taking it well. What are you going to do? Go on P-Mac's show and have him spread

some conspiracy theories? That's liberals? Act a fool and make a hell while he's there? Act a fool and make a hell while he's there. a fool and make a hell while he's there he just seems like the type that would do that

that's okay yeah he didn't play well but I'm sure you know I'm sure they'll say he played well he was 21 of 39 185 two touchdowns one interception Ocho and Seattle

tried to get a game away in the first quarter I've never seen return a return a fumble that many times and

I've never seen anything like that Ocho so the very next play began 19 so from that point on

Seattle outscored them 19 to nothing. Rodgers had the long shot of return. They asked Ulbricht after the game about was he contemplating a quarterback change. Instead of shutting down speculation with a direct no, he replied, not as of today. I don't like answers like that. I don't like what Harbaugh said when they talked about it and asked him, and Justin Tucker returning. I want to address that right now.

What the fuck do you mean right now? We're talking about the greatest kicker of all time. But anyway, now back to the topic at hand. Listen, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, man, he's a shit man. I mean, it's bad. He looks bad. What did you – oh, Joe, the man's bad. He looks bad. What did Ocho, the man about to be 41, he's coming off an Achilles injury,

which is one of the toughest injuries for an athlete to overcome. A young athlete, imagine one that's 40. What did you expect him to look like? But see, if you're honest, Ocho, anybody that's honest about Aaron Rodgers, you labeled a hater.

And they try to make it about all the other things. Go back and check. I don't want y'all to do me a favor. Go back and check my track record about Aaron. About when I was on CBS. I've never denied his ability to throw the football. I always questioned. I saw some character issues that concerned me.

Yeah. And I'm going to leave it at that. Now, with that being said, he didn't play well. Aaron Rodgers has not played well this year. And it's okay to say that. Ocho, he's still a four-time league MVP. He's still a four-time first-team All-Pro. He's still a Super Bowl MVP. He's still a transcendent, historically great four-time first team all pro yeah he's still a Super Bowl MVP

he's still a transcendent historically great quarterback one of the ever greatest quarter but this year he hasn't played well and all of those accolades that we've been but don't be plenty of them and rightfully so yeah ain't got nothing to do it right now you right about that you know it's unfortunate it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. I'm not sure. I'm sure we've seen quarterback decline. I don't think we've seen quarterback decline in such a manner at, you know, this fast. I think maybe because of the injury, due to the injury, I think it kind of sped up and expedited the process.

I was hoping things would work out. I was hoping things would work out because I was one of the few that said, oh, shoot, Devontae Adams coming to the Jets? Oh, they finna be hell. Now, you know, Alan Lazard and him having the pieces and having Brees Hall, I thought they were going to be all world. And having the defense that they did have, ah, things aren't the same. But hell, Aaron Rodgers playing bad, the goddamn defense, ain't too much to talk about either.

But they were hoping that Aaron Rodgers could elevate this offense. Like Josh Allen is doing the bills? Yes. What, Peyton? You remember? Now, hold on. People remember that the year before Tom Brady got to the Bucs, Jameis threw for 5,200 yards, 5,100

yards, and 30 touchdowns. Bruce Allen just felt that if we minimize the turnovers, we could be a playoff team. The year that Peyton got to the Broncos, they won the division, but they were eight and eight.

Peyton comes in, they go 13 and three. They get the number one seed. Now they get knocked out in the divisional round, but you see the improvement. The next year, Peyton wins MVP. He breaks all the records.

They go to the Super Bowl. They get demolished, but they did go. You see Tampa every year Brady was there, they make the playoffs. So they were expecting, they said, look, that guy coming in, he should be able to elevate

our offense. We got Garrett Wilson. We got some players. We got nice running back with Allen and Breeze Hall. We got solid tight ends. Not great, but they're adequate. And a defense. But I said one thing, and I kept reiterating. I say you're under the notion that the defense stays exactly the same

and there's no slippage. Because if there's slippage, then what? Oh, man, you hate it. You just hate it. Yeah. Well, listen, there's been slippage and there's no flex all. There's no flex all to stop the leak. The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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