Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Rory wins the Masters, the NBA Playoff’s are set, & Jokic averages a triple double for the season!

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Rory winning the Masters and completing the Grand Slam, Warriors lose to Clippers, & the Playoffs are set who is making it out of t...he first round, & much more!06:20 - Intro08:22 - Rory wins the Masters24:06 - Warriors lose to the Clippers54:11 - Jokic averages triple double for the season58:00 - Malik/Ant/3s(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:39 We've got a funny guest joining us a little later in the show. Bunny Markle will join us, but first. Rory has finally done it. He's one of, what, six men to complete the Grand Slam, went all four majors. He won the Masters in a playoff, completing his Grand Slam.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I think he last won in 2014, and he won it, I think, 10 years, 200-something days, because Tiger, 10 years, 200 and something days, because Tiger was 10 years, 304 days between his last two majors. He can now reside in
Starting point is 00:08:13 immortality. He joins the most exclusive club in golf, a Masters champion, and the owner of a career Grand Slam. If I'm not mistaken, Gene Sarazin, he won, he had a double eagle. He's the only one that said, I haven't had a double eagle, Gene Sarazin, he won, he had a double eagle. He's the only one that said, I haven't had a double eagle. Gene Sarazin, Ben Hogan,
Starting point is 00:08:30 Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player, Tiger Woods, and now Rory McIlroy joins that elite list. Guys that have won all four majors. Ochoa, he did look good. Rory conquered the ghosts that have haunted him for all these years.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He had the lead at the Masters in 2011, but he blew up and shot an 80. Sunday, he had a 74 in 2018. Cameron Smith stealing the open from him at St. Andrews, failing to catch Wyndham Clark in 2023 at the U.S. Open. Missed two short putts at Pinehurst as Bryson DeChambeau snagged the U.S. Open. And Ocho, his knees started to shake. On 18, he had a five-foot putt to win it in regulation.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Ended up going into a playoff with Rose. Rose, yeah. And guess what? He wins it on the first hole, and he ends up winning the Masters. Ocho, he conquered the demons. He was able to pull it off. One of six men, let's see,
Starting point is 00:09:33 one, two, three, four, five, he's the sixth man to complete the Grand Slam. Rory McIlroy joins Tiger Woods, Gary Player, Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, and Gene Sarazin. Bocho, you catch a little bit of this? I wasn't able to watch the Masters, but I did catch the highlights from it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Doing my homework, I'm not much of a golfer. Remember one time I played a little golf in high school. I shot a 67. When I did my eight, wait, I saw 67 in the first nine. That, that makes sense. Would you do that? I shot a 67 in the first, the first eight.
Starting point is 00:10:11 That's not good. Huh? Nah, that's not good, bro. You don't think so? You need it on the front nine. If you want to be good, you need to be somewhere between, obviously somewhere between 28 and 34 is be great. Nah, say I shot a 67 on 18.
Starting point is 00:10:26 What are you talking about? No, you said the front nine, so that's not good. No, I'm saying, I'm talking about the whole 18 holes. Yeah. I shot a 67. I'm not sure you shoot 67
Starting point is 00:10:36 on a putt-putt golf course. No, I'm telling you, listen, when I was younger, you know, Magrini, your grandma had you in some of everything to keep you busy when it's not football season. So I played a little golf from age 13 to 16, and I was younger, you know, Magrini, your grandma had you in some of everything to keep you busy when it's not football season. So I played a little golf from age 13 to 16.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And I was good. I was good. How many clubs go in a golf bag? Huh? How many clubs go in a golf bag? 11. No, don't worry about it. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Go ahead. It depends. What kind of golf? What kind of golf? How many clubs go in? How many go in yours? 14. Oh, yeah. I don't need that many.
Starting point is 00:11:06 See, you must be handicapped. You're handicapped, huh? Yeah. Yeah, you're handicapped. That's why I ain't got that many clubs. What's the best shot you can have on a golf course? An eagle. Two hole in one.
Starting point is 00:11:24 What you talking about? Uh-uh. Double eagle. Two hole-in-one? What you talking about? Uh-uh. Double eagle. Whoa, hold on. Time out, time out. How you going to have a double eagle if you get a hole-in-one? What you talking about?
Starting point is 00:11:33 But on a par five, you can get a double eagle. Talk to me now. Talk to me on that. Please explain that to me. You can ace a hole-in-one and that's only one stroke. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:41 See, on a hole-in-one, so that's normally a par that's a par three right most of the time par three so if you get it okay boom so you get two shots let's just say you hold out that's two shots right you pick up two shots but a double eagle yeah four that's why i was had ash look up gene Saracen and Augusta. He had a double Eagle. See, I ain't,
Starting point is 00:12:06 I ain't never did that on. I ain't never did it. You know, you gotta think I ain't been on the course in 12 years. Hey, most people, most people can't, most people can't even do that.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Double Eagle. Very rare. I mean, like I said, I've only heard of Gene Saracen. Yeah. The double Eagle in the competition, but if golf is hard.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's hard, and you've got to play it often because you're not in competition against the guy you're in competition with the course. Yes, with the course, yes. Hold on, and yourself. And yourself. And one shot is kind of like poker. One shot does not—just because you hit a good tee shot doesn't mean you hit a good second shot, a good pro shot. It doesn't mean you're going to putt well. It's just, and you got to put so much time in it in order to get good.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And even when you think you're good, you'll see some of the best hit the ball way over there, hit the ball way over there. And you saw Rory, who's at the top of the food chain, a five-foot putt, and he yipped it. So, listen this it's not it's not and then when you start getting conditions you start getting rain you start getting cold
Starting point is 00:13:09 you start getting wind wind yeah yeah the elements the elements will always mess you up that's why you have to be your mental got to be on point your mental got to be on point
Starting point is 00:13:18 you just said it earlier that most of the time golfers you're not playing against anybody else except the course but once the elements get involved
Starting point is 00:13:24 and then pressure situations, like when they went to that playoff with him and Roach, is it Roach? Rose, just Rose. Rose, Rose, Rose. My bad. Excuse me, Mr. Rose. But yeah, man, stuff like that, man, you know, the butt cheeks start clenching up because of the pressure of those situations.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. Minus three of the double eagle, not minus four, minus three of the double eagle not minus four minus three of the double eagle okay because it's a par five right you get a you birdie
Starting point is 00:13:48 you do it in three shots yeah yes okay which is a bit because now they what they've done Ocho is that they've stretched
Starting point is 00:13:55 these par fives out so effing far far very far man I mean I've seen one course they had like a par five like at 650 yards
Starting point is 00:14:02 well you got you got to think about the pro golfers how far they can hit on that first on that on that first uh that first hit now well they started doing this because of tiger because then every tiger came along and then everybody had to tiger proof it right because he could hit it so far right and now he's using irons and now he's laying up and now he now he's he's eagling all of the because that's where he did his done his damage yeah it's on the par five five yes sir yeah he was eagle he was always the... Because that's where he did his done his damage. Yeah. It's on the par five. Five, yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah, he was eagle. He was always... And so everybody... That's why they did what they did in the Masters. Right. You see what he did? He blew him out of the waters. And then Pebble, he wins by 15.
Starting point is 00:14:36 He won his first Masters. He won by 12. If I'm not mistaken, I think he won by 12. We got to have a way. Things they never did to any other golfers. Right. Now, you're never going to see another golfer be able to dominate like Tiger did because these guys are so good. These guys are too good now, Ocho. They grew up watching Tiger.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Now, you see a Justin Rose and you see a Scotty Scheffler and you see a big John Robb and you see DeChambeau and you see Justin Rose and Dustin DJ. These guys are too good, O.J. Yeah, yeah. And matter of fact, just for the, nobody gonna probably believe me, you know, me and Scotty Sheffield, we hit a few
Starting point is 00:15:16 holes together at Augusta before. You know, Scotty, good friend of mine, man. Okay. Yeah. I believe he might be a good friend of yours, but I don't know about you getting on Augusta. Oh, you know, no. I'm saying me and Scottie, I'm saying he'll tweet me.
Starting point is 00:15:33 He'll tweet me. He'll tweet you and tell you. You know, we hit a few holes together once. No, I'm saying Augusta. No, it wasn't nobody there but me and him. You know, I'm from Georgia. I know you from Georgia. Hey know hey listen they don't let everybody out there man but it's because i was him it was a private event it was just me and scotty we had
Starting point is 00:15:50 a fitness meeting we had to do okay i appreciate that yeah but uh it's it's uh i'm happy for uh rory rory yeah um you know he's, I mean, those final rounds, I mean, he could have, should have been at it. Yeah. But like you said, and we saw what happened today. He blew up with an 80 on the final hole. He blew up with 74 on the final hole. He missed those short putts at Pinehurst
Starting point is 00:16:16 and let DeChambeau catch him at the U.S. Open last June. So he's been, now, those wouldn't have given him, the 2011 would have given him the slam. Ojita completed the slam a lot sooner. Pinehurst, I mean, he had already won the U.S. Open. But this is the one, I mean, you know, obviously, just like tennis, you win the Grand Slam. You know, it's not a whole lot of guys that have won the Grand Slam. You look at Agassi.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Pete Sampras never done it. You got, obviously, you got Thad. You got Djokovic. You got Rafael Nadal. Andre Agassi. Pete Sampras never done it. You got, obviously, you got Thad. You got Djokovic. You got Rafael Nadal. Andre Agassi. All right. Emerson. What's the late?
Starting point is 00:16:55 Oh, my God. What's the lefty name? I don't think Bill Tilden did it. I don't think Roy Emerson did it. What's the left-handed Aussie? Help me out, Chad. In tennis,
Starting point is 00:17:12 no, Agassi was righty. He won the calendar slam, if I'm not mistaken. But see, back then, tennis used to be played on basically two surfaces. I mean, no, Clayton... Rod Laver. Rod Laver. But see, back then, tennis used to be played on basically two surfaces. I mean, no lay-in who it didn't know. What?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Clay? Rod Laver. Rod Laver. Rod Laver. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But see, back then, everything with, you know, Ocho, it was grass. Grass, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Grass and clay? Yeah. The U.S. Open used to be played on grass yeah women obviously played on grass yeah hey that ball that ball that ball down you real quick on that grass now now that's one thing i can play i can play some tennis now you know you you know you done seen the footage so you know i'm not lying about that it's gonna die quick on on that uh clay that red clay yeah yeah yeah listen glass don't do you no justice either man i prefer being on the hard court.
Starting point is 00:18:05 No, you got to stay on your feet. I mean, anything on hard court, because it's hard to get. If you notice, Ocho, even at Wimbledon, they have those little nubs on the bottom. Uh-huh. And clay, you got to learn how to slide. You got to learn how to slide. You got to be comfortable with it. I mean, I like to see him go get that ball and like.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Just slide with it, yeah. And then he come back over here, and then sometimes they do a split. Uh-huh, yeah. Hey, listen, you know nadal is the king of that clay court now oh yeah yeah 14 times yeah oh yeah yeah but you know you got alcaraz is coming i mean it's and that's what's so different because they require different skillset that's why so few people have actually won right you know on different services uh pete never won on clay right he had you know he was dominated on grass but back then those guys were serving bollies they hit the ball and just come to the net you don't see a whole lot of those now the guys just hit the ball so hard they just
Starting point is 00:18:55 oh you got people just like to play baseline you got people serving 130 140 miles an hour you not hitting nothing and coming to the net man please you're gonna sit there and volley absolutely not the plan that you good yeah they they are they are but you know you had those serving volley you had uh uh stefan edberg you had um who's that other guy pete sanford but now you got like you said uh joe they got these big forehands they just cranking it and so yeah but you you would think that would be the perfect time to serve in Bali. Because you got that big serve. They're just hoping to get the ball in. Now you come to the net. I mean, you can.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But it's great. I mean, to go see a professional tennis match and see how hard they hit that ball and how they can place it. How fast the game actually moves. Tennis will surprise you. Obviously, I've been to the Miami Open multiple times, you know, at the Hard Rock Stadium.
Starting point is 00:19:47 The same thing with hockey. There's one thing to watch hockey on TV, but then to see it up close and be on the glass and get a better understanding on how fast the game actually is. Man, tennis will surprise you as opposed to watching it on TV, as opposed to in person.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It's amazing. Yeah, but, you know, watching this today, I thought, because Roy on the first hole, it was a two-shot swing, because he, you know, he bogued it, and it ended up, but, you know, watching this today, I thought, because Roy on the first hole, it was a two-shot swing, because he, you know, he bogued it, and it ended up, next thing you know, DeChambeau has the lead. I'm like, okay, it's going to be interesting. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And then as you started going, DeChambeau started to blow up. Justin Rose kind of lost this, because Justin Rose had the two-day lead. He gave it all back yesterday, and then he came roaring back today, and he's going to have to find a way to play you know, three four quality rounds because you can give it back, I mean he had a 36 hole lead
Starting point is 00:20:33 he gave 54, gave it back and then he came out strong today, I think he shot 600 did he shoot 600 today? get himself back in contention, but he's probably kicking himself, Ocho. Right. Knowing that yesterday kind of got away from him.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah, it did. But that's the thing about golf. Hey, they be going good. Everything is going, yeah. They go left quick. Quick. Quick. Blow up.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I mean, it's like, oh, it's not too bad. Next thing you know, you bogey, double bogey. Shoot yourself out of contention. But congratulations to Rory McIlroy, the 2025 Masters champion. Yeah. Grand prize. I think they won $4 million. Now he's got a champion's dinner.
Starting point is 00:21:21 He gets to pick out what he's going to eat next year. He's going to be the champion. Is it a lifetime exemption now? You know, champion's dinner. You know, he gets to pick out what he's going to eat next year. He's going to be in the championship. You know, hey, got a lot. Is it a lifetime exemption now? Because I know they were trying to like 10 years. Normally, if you won the Masters, you'd run the tournament, Ocho. You have a lifetime exemption to come back. Right.
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Starting point is 00:26:04 played, that's Tuesday night, right? Tuesday night. So they'll play the play-in, and they play, that's Tuesday night, right? Tuesday night. So they'll play, excuse me, Warriors play the Grizz, and then who's the 9-10 matchup? Okay. Sacramento plays the Mavs. So, the winner of the 7-8, they're the 7th seed.
Starting point is 00:26:35 The loser of the 7-8, they'll face the winner of the 9-10, and that'll be the 8th seed. Now, hold on. Let me get my bearings straight. Let me get my understanding. The play-in. Listen, when the Warriors play the Grizzlies, this is one shot, one and done, huh? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Whoever wins this game, they'll be the seventh seed. The loser will play the winner of the 9-10, and that winner will be the eighth seed. So that winner, whoever the eighth seed is, they will face OKC. The winner of the Grizzlies-Warriors, they will face the Rockets. The Timberwolves face the Lakers, the 3-6 matchup, and the 4-5s, the Nuggets, and the Clippers. So what do you think about that Lakers? Lakers are fire. Lakers are fire. Justify. Justify.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, you ain't even think about it, though. I mean, like, listen, I know you think the Lakers are going to win, but how do you feel seven-game series, I mean, how many do you think the Wolves get? So you ain't giving Ant-Man no chance. I'm giving Ant-Man a great chance. They play pretty well. He and Drew Randall, good. They got Gobert.
Starting point is 00:27:53 That's going to, you know. But I just like LeBron. It's going to be interesting. Now, he kind of tweaked that role a little bit the other night. He left and broke his streak. He had 20 straight seasons of scoring at least 25 points.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I know people are going to say he stepped off a cliff even though he averaged 24 and a half points a game in year 22 at the age of 40. And he gave you, basically, he gave you what? 8 assists, 8 assists, and 7.8 rebounds or something like that. So, I wouldn't say he's falling off a cliff.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Right. And he's probably going to be All-NBA for the 21st time in his NBA career out of 22 seasons. Right. He's going to probably be second team All-NBA. Let that sink in for a second. That's crazy. In year 21, he's going to be one of the 15 best players in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You know what? The funny fact, and I hate to go off topic, the funny thing about it is, if you look at LeBron's resume, you look at the consistency over the years and what he's been able to do and maintain consistency for such a very long time, yet critics, analysts, pundits,
Starting point is 00:29:00 still find negative things to say about him out of what he's achieved to this point yeah you got the you got to actually nitpick you got the dig you got to be almost almost in a state of ridiculousness to find ways to be negative when someone that has never done it before and is doing it like he's doing it and still in year 22 doing it at a high level find negative things to say. It makes no sense to me. Instead of admiring what he's been able to do
Starting point is 00:29:31 for so long and praising what he's been able to do regardless of whether it's to your fitting or your like because you don't like him personally, when it comes to the game of basketball,
Starting point is 00:29:41 what LeBron is doing is unparalleled and it hasn't been done before. But, Ocho, we just talked about this at the combine. They don't tell you what you did well. They tell you he don't run fast. He don't jump high. He don't move his feet.
Starting point is 00:29:55 He drops his arm. He pass the ball. And I get it, Ocho. Look, to a certain degree, I get it. Right. Because when you're talking about great, when you're talking about the top three top four top five players of all time okay you try to find things to like
Starting point is 00:30:13 okay but the vitriol the vitriol which people speak about LeBron that's what's confusing to me yeah but Kawhi Leonard was sensational today 13 to 24 of eight from the three-point line. He had 33. James Harden, who could possibly be another All-NBA selection,
Starting point is 00:30:32 played 48 minutes, gave you 39, 10 assists, 7 rebounds. He was great. Kawhi and James Harden was sensational. Jimmy Butler, hey, you got to play off Jimmy. He gave you 30 points, nine assists. You got to do better with this rebounding. One rebound? Bro, you played 48 minutes and got one rebound.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Jimmy Butler had one more rebound than me. And I wasn't even in the arena. You got to get better. You got to get more rebounds than me. And I wasn't even in the arena. You got to get better. You got to get more rebounds than that. And the thing is, the Warriors are normally a pretty good rebounding team. They got crushed. They got crushed. They got beat by 17 on the glass.
Starting point is 00:31:19 9-3 on the offensive end. 33-11 on the defensive end. Who else? Pazinski. He played well. Had 19 points. Moody. Got to get him better than that.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I'm trying to figure out, is Kaminga hurt? That's what I'm saying. Why would you play Kaminga? He's probably the most athletic guy on their roster. He's hurt, huh? No, he ain't hurt. He just didn't play. They didn't coach his DMV.
Starting point is 00:31:50 If he's not getting minutes, he's not getting minutes for a reason. Obviously, when it comes time to show up, maybe he's not showing up. Why would Steve Kerr not play him if he's the most athletic? There's got to be something wrong with him. But he spoke about that, that not getting the opportunities or, you know, making a mistake and being snatched out of the game. It's hard to play with your team. If you're a young guy, Ojo, the hardest thing is, and you know this,
Starting point is 00:32:16 if you're a young guy and your team is used to winning and you make a mistake, coaches don't have patience for that. What hurt Coach Belichick the most? Mistakes. Mistakes, yeah. Same thing with Mike. I play with Mike. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Is Elyse that much shorter for NBA players, especially a player of his magnitude that is the most athletic on the team? We have to do everything right? Because if you're thinking about not playing with a free mind and playing, then you'd be hesitant. You need to be, you need to be on the court. Same way.
Starting point is 00:32:47 When it comes to football, if you're out there thinking you're going to be one step behind, you can be one step too slow. Yep. Um, zoo boss was sensational. 11 of 16, 22 points,
Starting point is 00:33:01 17 rebounds. He almost out rebounded theed the Cavs by himself. Man, Zub has been unbelievable. I still don't understand why Magic traded him for Mike Muscala. I won't ever understand that. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's going to be a great matchup because everybody remember the last time the Clippers played the Nuggets. Clippers had a 3-1 lead in the bubble. This was before Nicola Jokic became Nicola Jokic. Jamar Murray, this was Jamar Murray's coming out party because he dropped a 40 burger on him. And we know what Jamar Murray is capable of doing.
Starting point is 00:33:40 We've seen it time and time again. These two guys in the pick and roll, the dribble handoff. Michael Porter Jr. can get hot and can light it up. Russ coming off the bench. It's going to be a great matchup. I can see this going six, seven games. I'm going to be shocked if it doesn't go at least six,
Starting point is 00:33:58 possibly seven games. Hold on. In going six or seven, but who you got winning? You got the Clippers upsetting? Would it be an upset? Ah, I mean, theoretically, yes, because the Clippers are the 5C and the Nuggets are the 4C. But if you look at the way, you remember, the Nuggets just fired their head coach three days, four days ago.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I don't know. You think they did that on purpose for the simple fact that putting pressure on the players, like what y'all doing right now that ain't gonna cut it and we want to win another one in order to win another we think we need to say that ain't nothing but the players call anyway you know that huh yeah for sure ain't nothing but the players call i look at it like this oh joe there's really never a good time to release someone of their duties right but if you're thinking about firing him and he goes to the Western Conference finals, how do you make that decision to fire him?
Starting point is 00:34:51 He goes to the NBA finals. Right. How do you fire a guy that goes to the NBA finals? So maybe they had had their mind made up. Maybe there are some things that, you know, you look, I read what everybody else read. They've been bickering between him and the general manager, Calvin Booth. What is there to bicker about?
Starting point is 00:35:07 I don't want to. What is there to bicker about? Well, look, I mean, general manager, when you draft guys, I want those guys to play. Mike Malone says I'm trying to win games. I feel Russ gives me a better chance to win. So I will leave him in there. Right. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Calvin Booth says I drafted this guy. He's a younger guy. I want better chance to win. Right. So I will leave him in there. Right. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Calvin Booth said, I drafted this guy. He's a younger guy. I want these guys to play. Oh, oh, oh. It's kind of like Ty Lue. Right. Ty Lue win the championship. They want him to play the younger guys.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Ty Lue said, no, I ain't playing them younger guys. I'm playing the win. They fired Ty Lue. Ugh. Now that's tough. It is. It absolutely, it is absolutely very very tough it's going to be a great series
Starting point is 00:35:50 because Jokic is going to get his numbers no matter what I mean think about it Jokic finished top 2 top 3 points rebounds assists
Starting point is 00:36:00 and steals and he's not going to win the MVP but I mean we know why he's not going to win the MVP. But, I mean, we know why he's not going to win the MVP. Yeah, but I'm saying— What is he doing over there in Justice Special now? His team had a better record. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:14 He had led the league in scoring, but we've never seen this. We've seen a guard lead the league in scoring. Hell, Jordan did it 10 years in a row. Right. Tracy McGeady led the league in scoring. Right. Tracy McGeady led the league in scoring. Right. We've never seen somebody finish top three, let alone rebound, points to rebound?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yes. In three categories? Absolutely not. Four categories? Hell no. And he did that. Yeah. Got no problem
Starting point is 00:36:39 with Shea winning it. Shea was sensational this year. And watching him play, bro, when he puts that show in your chest and step back, you might as well just go ahead and run on back down the court
Starting point is 00:36:48 because he's going to go in. He's going to go in. Don't even worry. Hey, don't even talk about missing. Don't even worry about it. Just head on back down the court because it's going to go in. Matter of fact, I want to put my beard in now. I want to put my beard in now. Now you got? I want to put my bid in now.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Now, listen. Now, let's talk business. I don't want to be personal. Now, I know I owe you some money. I know I owe you $5,200, right? Yes, you do. Let's put that aside right now. Let's talk business.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Now, I think for the betterment of me in being able to talk about basketball as we enter the playoffs, I think it's imperative and important since you're on the West Coast and then you have access to Laker tickets. I think it's imperative that you and I, we go sit courtside at a Laker game. I think that's something we should do. We should do game one, game two. I'm not sure what game it is.
Starting point is 00:37:41 But listen, I can get a flight, Spirit Flies, Spirit Flies to LA, and you and I need to go to a game. So what you think about that? Ocho. Hold on, wait, wait, wait. Before you answer, before you answer. You listen to me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Timber Wolves, Werewolves, Teen Wolves, Legas and Fire. See? See, the thing is, Ocho, when you go to games, if you go to the game we miss the other games it's like we you do realize like we go and now our schedule is going to change we're going out for every every every every game so we might be going five six days in a row okay okay that's okay but it's listen it's about continuity it's about it's about you and i sitting together
Starting point is 00:38:22 core side of the Laker game. Boom. Then we watch the game. We leave, like, you know, maybe late in the fourth. Boom. I don't know. You know what Laker playoff ticket game tickets cost? Boy, you got it.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Are you good? No, you got it. Huh? You got it. I ain't bought no new car. I ain't got no new house. I ain't got no chrome hard jeans. I ain't got none of that. Nah, but you got to think. I ain't got no chrome hard jeans. I ain't got none of that.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Nah, but, Unc, you got to think. You got to understand, right? I got 50-leather jobs. So, I told you, Unc, this is my season. I'm just trying to treat myself. I ain't done nothing nice for myself in a very long time. Well, treat us to some tickets. Huh? Treat us to some tickets.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I'm glad you said that. As a matter of fact, I'm going to give him a call like a brown freighter. As a matter of fact, go ahead. Keep talking. Wait a minute. I'm going to text you right now and see. You the one of fact, go ahead. Keep talking. Wait a minute. I'm going to text him right now. You the one told me you had Corsac. You had C the tickets.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I gave them up last year. Okay, you gave them up, but you still have part ownership. You still got ownership. Nah. Tell me who you gave them up to so I can send a message. No, I told him about... Like you gave them up all the way? You don't you you don't have
Starting point is 00:39:25 access to him no more you can't call people say listen i want to go to this game i'm calling freddie i'm calling the guy that i got i'm detecting freddie right now yeah see see what he says tell ask him how much you want for two so we can go to the game i mean i'm excited i think that'd be i think that'd be a good time man that'd be a good time and plus. That'd be a good time. And plus there's Timberwolves and Ant-Man. Everybody's going to want to go. Well, listen, I mean, but you got done.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Listen, it's about, it's about camaraderie, you know, just think about me. You caught sad hot dogs, popcorn. You know, we get on the Jumbotron, Uncle Nocho here. And, you know, we wave to the people and stuff like that. Nocho here, and we wave to the people and stuff. Like, that's dope. Uncle, you just spent $600,000 on a car. Huh? What? That Lambo.
Starting point is 00:40:12 What about it? That's $600,000. It was $700,000. Okay. Oh. Hey, you think I'm about to put... Boy, I wish I'm back. Listen, Uncle, let me live a little bit.
Starting point is 00:40:24 When you was flying private, I didn't say nothing. I mean, I did say something, but I didn I was back. Listen, Uncle. Let me live a little bit, Uncle. When you was flying private, I ain't say nothing. I mean, I did say something, but I ain't say nothing. When you was sitting courtside, when you was sitting courtside at the liquor game, I ain't say nothing. Listen, when you paid for a $10,000 dog, I mean, I said something, but you still did it. Let me treat myself, Uncle.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I ain't bought myself nothing in 37 years, man. 37 years. Chad, I know that Chad understand. I'm just... I don't bought myself nothing in 37 years, man. 37 years. Chad, I know the chat understand. I'm good. One year. I don't understand nothing. Oh, you don't know? Who's that at?
Starting point is 00:40:51 This man want me to play. Chad. What up, Freddie? Hey, Freddie. What's up, Freddie? I'm good. Freddie, what are we looking at? What are we looking like for the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Yeah. Telling me and you. Game one, game two. Telling me and you. Yeah, what are it looking like? Uncle, you got to negotiate, man Don't just ask him You got to negotiate
Starting point is 00:41:13 You got to learn how to talk, man Okay All right What we looking like? You're going to text me back tomorrow I don't like that I don't like that I don't like Uncle You're going to text me back tomorrow. I don't like that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I don't like that. You got to learn how to talk to these people. You got this. Let me tell you something. When it comes to negotiating, you got to establish dominance right away. You asking the wrong question. You don't give them the opportunity to give you the number. You give them the number and what you can work with. Ocho, those tickets belong to somebody.
Starting point is 00:41:41 They have to sell them. I know. Those people that sit there, they make more Ocho, those people that sit there, they make more than me and you both in six months. Hey, see, that's what I'm talking about. The fact that they make more than you both, they got to negotiate. They ain't about no money for them. Those people that had those tickets for
Starting point is 00:41:55 years, Ocho, they ain't nobody just all of a sudden say, you know what, I want season tickets to the Lakers. You got to know somebody. You got to get them up off them. You do realize these people are fans of us. do know that right you do know that oh joe when you uh when you talk about people that's worth three four hundred million dollars right fans one thing but i know all them what you what you saying they know us they know you they know me what you saying think about it what can they do with what can they do with
Starting point is 00:42:23 three hundred four million that we can't do with $5 million? Oh, they can do a lot. Now, if you said $250 million and $300 million, I'd agree with you. You're talking about $5 billion, $300 million. They can do a lot. Hold on, hold on. They can do a lot, but we're talking about the way we do it. $300 billion, I promise you, if I got $300 billion, I'd fly it private.
Starting point is 00:42:42 No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. What the hell are you saying? No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. What the hell you say? No, you're not. I promise you not. If you had $300 million, I wouldn't have allowed you to fly private. You ain't allowed me. I'm flying.
Starting point is 00:42:55 You better not let me get $100 million. Damn, three. Like you said, what can I do with $300 million? I can't do with $100 million. I'll fly private. It's unnecessary. Listen, you need to be a people person. You need to be a monster.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I am. The pilot and the flight attendant is on the private plane. Nah. You like private, don't you? It was good. Like, yeah. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They got nice food. Jordan said, we got pancakes. He woke up. He ate my full breakfast. Let me tell you something. How you going to sleep and eat up and eat full breakfast? But you can do that. You can do that flying commercial.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You can do that flying commercial. It's different being amongst the people. But when you fly private, you determine when the flight leaves. Commercial, you got to go when they say, if that flight's at 259 or 359, I can say, you know what, Ocho? I want to leave at 515. I want to leave X amount of time. And guess
Starting point is 00:43:48 what? I'll pull right up into the tar bag, get my bags out, boom, boom, I'll get on there. I'll bring my dogs, I can bring whatever. It's the convenience. Yes, Ocho, it's still the distance is the distance to the destination.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's the convenience. And that's what, Ocho, at this juncture in our life, the way we prepared ourselves, we do everything for convenience. That's what it's about now, Ocho. I got you. It's about convenience. Having someone, okay, hey, boom, you're going to have that. Okay, we'll have this. Okay, we'll have that. And that's what PJs, that's what they give you an
Starting point is 00:44:25 opportunity to do. But he'll hit me back. I've been knowing Freddie. I've been knowing Freddie now for three years. Okay. That's it? Just three? Three. Because I was at a game, and he was like, I see you at a lot of games. He's like, I'll give you a better
Starting point is 00:44:41 price. See, there we go. Now we're talking. Put your number in. Now we're talking. Put your number in. Now we're talking. But, and, Ocho, then I bought the season tickets. Yeah. Season tickets, like, hold on. I only bought, hold on. I only paid, I only got, I only played for 19 games.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Okay. That was almost $300,000? There's 42 games. There's 41 games in the regular season. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Let me gather my thoughts real quick. So you bought 19 games. Yes. At $300,000. Now it was a bad season. Almost. Yes. So a game, that's about...
Starting point is 00:45:22 Two tickets. Hold on. Hold on. Let me carry the one. Carry the two and divide it. Probably about $17,000, $18,000. A game? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Okay, when you put it like that, that ain't bad. That ain't bad. That's about right. And then you do realize when the playoff come... Oh, it go up? Yeah. How did it go? Hey, so think about it.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Bro, I went to the Miami Heat game. Right. Oh, that's not that bad. You know, I sit courtside in Miami. That ain't that bad. Game two. I went to game two at the NBA Finals. Oh, the Finals.
Starting point is 00:45:57 When they played San Antonio. I thought you meant a regular game. No. Oh, my bad. And I was up under the basket. Right. Those two tickets cost me. About 12. 12 I was up under the basket. Right. That was, those two tickets cost me. About 12, 12 apiece?
Starting point is 00:46:08 17,000. Okay, yeah, that's about right. That's about right. And that was LeBron's, that was when they played San Antonio. Okay. Because they lost, remember they had lost to San Antonio the first game. Tony Parker hit that shot, layup shot. And then LeBron brought, so I came back and saw the one that LeBron blocked,
Starting point is 00:46:26 the Tiago splitter shot. So I was right up under the basket when that happened. Okay. And plus, it was so expensive because now, the flight,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I stayed at the Fountain Blue. Oh, you got up. That's when I got up. Oh, you see, that's like. I got up down there and I went, hey,
Starting point is 00:46:39 I went out there to the front desk and I said, hey, when y'all gonna stop playing this music? What music? At the Fountain Blue.
Starting point is 00:46:47 At Lynn? No, they was at the Fountain Blue. You know, they played music the whole night. Oh yeah, they be cutting up now.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They be cutting up. Listen. They was like, Mr. Sharp, that's kind of what we're known for. I said, I sure wish I'd have known.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. Let me tell you what I would have been known for. Staying here. Man, between the music and them birds squawking. I said, oh man, later for this. Man, between the music and them birds squawking.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I saw a man later for this. So, uh, but that, so I can only imagine what final tickets would cost for a Lakers game. I mean, hey, do the players get,
Starting point is 00:47:19 the players get too calm, right? Probably. And it's not, it's not, it's not corsair. It's like family, family section family section yes okay well maybe maybe we listen i can make a few calls and you want me to call
Starting point is 00:47:32 call call lebron now i got i could call lebron he gave me he gave me the ball so i know he wouldn't mind give me no tickets but uh i think that's gonna be a great series though i think it's gonna be a great series ant-man jew rand going to be a great series. Ant-Man, Jew Randall, they play really well. Mike Conley always comes out. They got, they got a nice little squad,
Starting point is 00:47:53 but I like the Lakers. If LeBron is, is, is good to go. I like the Lakers. I like that three headed monster with Luca, AR, Bron. I like that.
Starting point is 00:48:02 You know, I got something for you right here though. Minnesota, meet a that. You know, I got something for you right here, though. Minnesota, meet a quota. You and Toyota. Lakers in five. Okay, Ocho, this is what was said by Steve Kerr after the game. Yeah. After the game, Kerr spoke about Kaminga and said,
Starting point is 00:48:19 JK has been really impactful for us. It doesn't mean he's out of the loop going forward. This is how the game played out. I just told him at walkthrough that we were going to not go with the usual rotation. I didn't tell him he wasn't going to play because I wasn't sure if he was going to play or not. Now, didn't we have the same issue at the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah, he was the head coach. Didn't we have the same issue at the Olympics where certain people weren't playing? Yep. We had the same issue. No, certainly Olympics where certain people weren't playing. Yep. We had the same issue with Jason Tatum. Here we go. Here we go. In the regular season, during the NBA season, in an important game that you need to win
Starting point is 00:48:52 and your most athletic player that you brought to my attention is not on the court. Doing what he does best because he makes mistakes. He's inconsistent, whatever it may be. In order to lose the inconsistency, you have to have reps. You have to build confidence. You know how you build confidence? That's by being on the goddamn court. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:49:17 You mean to tell me Kaminga, who can defend, and you play post? I get it. If Harden's in there, you got to have a big... I'm surprised Kevon Looney didn't play a little bit more than what he did because he's a big body
Starting point is 00:49:32 that can battle a Zubat. But Kaminga's not playing. That's hard. That's hard. For you've been playing and all of a sudden the coach tell you and shoot around
Starting point is 00:49:46 say you may or may not play but stay ready. He's a young guy. He's not, he's not like a Lou Will. He's not like a Jamal Crawford that knows that, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:56 I'm going to come off the bench X, Y, and Z. He's a young player. He's trying to gain traction. He's trying to gain his confidence. And then he's like, I've been in a rotation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And then all of a sudden you don't play. It's tough, Ocho. He's trying to gain his confidence. And then he's like, I've been in a rotation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then all of a sudden you don't play. It's tough, Ocho. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah. But Curry's won
Starting point is 00:50:14 four championships. He's not going to get criticized, Ocho. Yeah, you can't. You can't. There's nothing to say. It's kind of hard to argue the success that he's had.
Starting point is 00:50:24 But all I know, he's been in the play-in more times than not. And he's never won a game in which he's been in the play-in. Right. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this shapes up. But I was surprised that Kaminga did not play in this series. All right, Ocho. So here we have the seeding, the 9-10 matchup. Sacramento Kings versus the Dallas Mavericks.
Starting point is 00:50:48 7-8 matchup, the Golden State Warriors versus the Memphis Grizzlies. The 4-5 matchup is the Clippers versus the Nuggets. The 3-6 matchup is the Lakers versus the T-Wolves. Rockets will face the 7th seed, and the OKC Thunder will face the eighth seed. So, whoever wins out of Golden State and the Grizzlies will be the seventh seed.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And then the winner of the 9-10 will face the loser of the 7-8 matchup. Okay. In the East, we have four or five. The Indiana Pacers are the fourth seed. The Indiana Pacers are the 4 seed. The Milwaukee Bucks are the 5 seed. The 3-6 matchup, the New York Knicks versus the Detroit Pistons.
Starting point is 00:51:35 The 7-8 matchup is the Orlando Magic. They take on the 8 seed, Atlanta Hawks. The winner of the 7-8 will be the number seven seed, and they'll face the Boston Celtics. The loser of the 7-8 will face the 9-10 Bulls Heat.
Starting point is 00:51:55 That winner draws the Cleveland Cavaliers. So, in both sides, 4-5, 3 three six has already been determined Eastern Conference the Pacers take on the Bucks three six Knicks versus the Pistons on the West three six Lakers take on T-Wolves four five in the West Nuggets versus the Clippers so man what happened to my heat, man?
Starting point is 00:52:26 Jimmy Butler left. Man, man. Jimmy Butler left. Man, man. We're going to find out, Ocho. You're going to find out what y'all made of, bro. See if y'all got what y'all cooking with.
Starting point is 00:52:40 But it should be some good matchups. It should be some good matchups. I think the 3-6 on both sides. Detroit looks really, really good matchups. It should be some good matchups. I think the three, six on both sides, Detroit looks really, really good this year. Bernie, uh, JB, that Bernie,
Starting point is 00:52:48 JB, Bernie's son, excuse me, JB Becker staff. He should get some, some mention for culture of the year. He should get a mention for culture of the year. Who else?
Starting point is 00:52:58 I think, uh, JJ Redick. Uh, I don't think JJ isJ.'s going to win. I think it should be out of Doka and the Pistons. If I had to vote, I'm voting for J.B. Bickerstaff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Goddamn Pistons playing good, boy. What's Cumming... How you say your last name? Huh? Cummings. Cumminga? No, no, no. K. Cunningham?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Oh, man. Oh, K. Cunningham. Nice. Hey, boy. Boy, you remindunningham. Nice. Hey, boy. Boy, remind me of myself in high school, boy. Golly. And Malik Beasley's making threes. I was like, damn, I sure wish he was making no threes when he was with the Lakers like that.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Hey, cut letting them loose, boy. Yeah. They got Durden. They got a nice little squad on y'all. They got a nice little squad. Yeah. They got a nice little squad. They young, too, now.
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Starting point is 00:57:12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joker becomes the third player to average a triple- during the season he joins his teammate russell westbrook oscar robinson oscar robinson and russ are the only ones to average a 30 point triple double yoko just finishes point two points short of that he averaged 29.8 points
Starting point is 00:57:38 per game 12.8 rebounds per game 10.3 assists per game and averaged what 1.2 steal 1.8 rebounds per game, 10.3 assists per game, and averaged, what, 1.8 steals per game, which was tied for second. Dyson Daniels led the league with 3.0 assists per game. Jokic had more triple-doubles this season, 34, than any three players in the league combined. No other players else entered Friday with more than 10 this season. I think LeBron had exactly 10, correct? So that just goes to show you just how dominant Yoke was.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Very, very. Hey, I got a question. As dominant as he is, right? Yes. Being that his game isn't based on explosion and being quick and playing above the rim, how long can he keep this up?
Starting point is 00:58:30 As long as he want to. It's been reported he's about to sign a three-year, $212 million extension in the offseason, which is the Supermax, which is the most a guy can sign for, which is that $70 million per year extension. Yeah. Which Luka was going to be entitled to this offseason. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:47 So, because of his game, it's not a lot of pounding. Ocho is not a lot of up and down. Right. He can play another eight years. Consistency.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Consistently doing this. He got this. As long as his mind stays sharp. But you got to realize, those type players are not like American players. Right. It's not the end-all, be-all to them. You hear them talk, he wants to get back to his horses.
Starting point is 00:59:15 He wants to get back to his native land. He wants to be with his family. That's what he wants to do. I'm not saying he doesn't take the game serious. He takes the game. You don't become this good. Right. I don't care how talented you are be this dominant
Starting point is 00:59:28 without taking the game serious without putting the work in and that was the thing, people talk about Luka Luka put the work in the thing is with Luka is that you look at his body, he's never going to have a body like LeBron James, he's never going to have a body like Dwight Howard
Starting point is 00:59:43 neither is Jokic that's not their makeup have a body like LeBron James. He's never going to have a body like Dwight Howard. Neither is Jokic. That's not their makeup. That's not their genetic makeup, Ojo. That's not how they're going to be built. European players. When you're playing players, you see built like that. Got caps on their shoulders. Halved up.
Starting point is 00:59:59 You're right. Got quad. Halved straight. That ain't what they are. Can you put the ball in the basket? Absolutely. Absolutely. He had a phenomenal season. But Shea should win the MVP.
Starting point is 01:00:19 He's earned that. He's been, I mean, all those consecutive 20-point games, all those, he led the league in 50-point games, led the league in 40-point games, 30-point games, 20-point games. He's been sensational. And they have the best record in the NBA. Oh, he got one of them, yeah. Giannis has 11.
Starting point is 01:00:45 LeBron has 10,. LeBron has 10. So LeBron finished second. Third with triple doubles. But Jokic was far, far, far, far, far ahead of everybody with those triple doubles. But it's going to be a very interesting matchup because there's a big body that can bang with him. But here's the thing. Lubez is going to have to be extremely careful because he can get him in foul trouble because Jokic got all those moves,
Starting point is 01:01:06 those ups and unders and doopsie-doop. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays out. Before the Jazz game against the Wolves, Malik Beasley tweeted, Ant, you need seven threes to beat me. Ant became the youngest player to lead the league in three points
Starting point is 01:01:25 made. He got it. He said, Ant, you need that. Ant said, okay. Say no more, fam. And he went and got all seven. Yep.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Beat him by one. It's so funny when you think about it. When you think about hitting seven threes, it sounds so easy until you're in a when you think about hitting 7-3's it sounds so easy until you're in a structured environment actually playing a game
Starting point is 01:01:48 and don't understand how difficult it is mm-hmm uh but Ant nice Ant had 43 he was 7 of 18
Starting point is 01:01:57 from 3 15 of 31 uh from the field in 40 minutes he was plus 20 that boy nice man Rudy Gobert had 19 and 18 rebounds from the field in 40 minutes. He was plus 20. Rudy Gobert had 19 and 18 rebounds.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Drew Randall had 10 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists. They got great production off the bench from Naz Reed. Gave him 11 points. Dante DiBincenzo gave him 16 points. And Nakia Alexander gave him 9 points. So 25, 36. They got 36 nine points. So 25, 30.
Starting point is 01:02:25 So they got 36 bench points. The Jazz, Oscar Toshibi, Claywell gave him break points off the bench. I don't know what the Jazz is really going to do. But the Timberwolves, that's the Lakers' next opponent. They got a guy that can protect the rim, Rudy Gobert. But the thing is... He ain't got no big.
Starting point is 01:02:51 When you got it, when you... He's not a guy you run plays for. You just got to keep him off the glass. Jackson Hayes, just keep him off the glass. Don't go no plump phase. Don't do any of that. Just keep him off the glass. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:02 The problem was, is that in the fourth quarter, he becomes a liability because everybody's going to put him in the pick and roll, and they're going to make him guard. If you go back and watch the game last year, what did Luka do? Put him in the pick and roll. Come on. As Mark Jackson
Starting point is 01:03:18 used to say, shall I have this dance? Yes, you may. So that's what you got to do to the big guys that punish him he's out there the back he's out there on he because look as a defensive player and that's he's won what four defensive player of the years yes now ash 304 he's really he's really a help defender he's not like an own ball defender elijah one was an own ball defender yeah you know know Jordan and guys like that were on-ball He's a help defender
Starting point is 01:03:46 Because those guys get him out there in no man's land Because it's hard He's seven foot tall Wears probably size 19, 20 shoe Bro you're not finna slide You might get him on the first one But are you gonna be there that second move? Are you gonna be that third move?
Starting point is 01:04:01 Right Four, yeah So he tied Ben Wallace because Ben Wallace has four also. And Mutombo, okay. So it's going to be a very interesting matchup. But Malik, you told Ed he need three to beat you. And he's going to get enough shots up.
Starting point is 01:04:20 He shot 18 threes. They shot 43. Ed had 18 of the 43. He had seven of the 13 mates. But now they got what they wanted. They're the sixth seed. They get the Lakers. When does the series start?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Do we know when the series starts? Saturday, Sunday? So they're playing. So they're not starting before Monday. I mean, Sunday? So they're playing. So they're not starting before Monday. I mean, Sunday. They don't have the schedule. Hey, see if. They don't have the schedule out.
Starting point is 01:04:54 No? Yeah, because it's contingent on the playing teams. Right. You want to give them a fair console. Okay. Probably the four or five matchups on both sides of the three, six matchups. They'll probably go off first because those guys will have forgotten all the rest.
Starting point is 01:05:08 They done playing somebody from the, you know, the seven, eight and the nine tens. Right. So that's probably how it's going to go. That's, that's a good,
Starting point is 01:05:17 that's a good thing that we don't know when they played that gives us enough time for Fred to hit us back and give us a number on what it's going to look like for you. You know, I'm serious, man. That, that, I think that'd be good. Not just for us to watch the game, but you know, we don't get, we don't get. Oh, Joe, you just bought a $700,000 car, bro. Come out the money and break bread. Hold on. Let me, let me talk to you real quick. Let me talk to you. I think it would be cool, right? It's one thing we do to show, right? But we don't really get a chance
Starting point is 01:05:42 to really spend time together. Now we have great chemistry on camera now let's let's let's continue that in person sitting courtside and doing what the fellas do we could be like life remember martin remember martin and eddie murphy yes that could be me and you claude ray yeah claude ray like like no no cameras no just just two fellas kicking back watching the game you know know, enjoying it, talking basketball. You could teach me a thing or two. Ocho, Chad. Chad, y'all hear me. Chad, what I'm missing here, Chad.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Ocho bought, he got a new crib, $21,000 and just a handful of furniture. Y'all saw the man spend all this money on chrome hard jeans and he just spent 700K on a car and he want me to pay for courtside seats. Whoa, whoa. Listen, you ain't got to pay for them.
Starting point is 01:06:34 We can split it. We can split it. No, you should pay for it. Okay. All right. I got you. I got you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:41 So, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Take that $5,200 on the table and I'll get a courts got you. Okay. So, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Take that $5,200 off the table, and I'll get a course-side ticket. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. I'm feeling like that. How you going to pay something with my money? You see what I'm saying? Now, come on now.
Starting point is 01:06:59 You got to make up your mind now. Now, either we're going to sit course-side together, you know, and have some type of chemistry and enjoy the game, or you want your $5,200. You can't have it both ways. You can't have both of them. Hold up. I bought you a gift with
Starting point is 01:07:13 your money. You're being selfish now. Don't be selfish. I'm trying to do something out of the goodness of my heart. You're talking about what I owe you. But I'm paying for cross-eyed tickets that quadruple what I owe you. It's the thought that counts. Sharing is caring.
Starting point is 01:07:32 So you're going to buy me, excuse me, you're going to buy me a ticket with my money. No, I'm not going to use your money. I'm going to use the money I already got. Now, the money I owe you
Starting point is 01:07:40 is set aside. Well, set aside in my pocket. Let it sit beside me. I want it to be beside me. Listen, you're real difficult to work with. Chat, this man spent 700K
Starting point is 01:07:57 on a Lambo. He just got furniture. He got a 7-inch TV with surround sounds Y'all saw him sitting on a Ferrari Y'all saw the man in the chrome hard jeans Hold on, hold on That Ferrari old, huh?
Starting point is 01:08:14 That's old That chrome hard jeans ain't old I got a booster in Miami Get everything for me, huh? I ain't even got to pay full price for nothing I just pay half Who made that shirt you got on? Oh, did Louis Vuitton.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I know what it is. I just wanted you to say it. And I know what it costs. Yeah, it's just a little change. Because I got the lookbook, too. Oh, you got this? No, I didn't get that. But I got the lookbook that it came out of.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I was in the lookbook. And let me treat myself. It's 2025. I told you, man. I'm shutting it down at the in the lookbook. And let me treat myself. It's 2025. I told you, man. I'm shutting it down at the end of the year. I want to treat myself. I got something in mind for $5,200.
Starting point is 01:08:52 What you got in mind? Tell me. Whoa! Tell us what you got in mind. You know, I might have one of them old Ronis I want to take out. For $5,200? Oh, absolutely not. You ain't spend no $5,200? Oh, absolutely not. You ain't spending no $5,200 on no, oh, no, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:09:08 We ain't doing that. I ain't going to tell me what I can spend my money on. Hey, you ain't spending, listen, let me tell you something. I love you like a brother. And you always talk to me when it comes to doing things I shouldn't be doing. You ain't spending $5,200 on Nathaniel. Nathaniel. Because she ain't been in your life long enough because
Starting point is 01:09:25 I don't even know who she is. The fact that I don't know who she is, that means she ain't worth 5200. Now, if she was that special, I would know about her. Now, I'm going to tell it to you like that. No, I told you, I need 5200 for the dog. What dog? I told you, I'm getting a dog. Okay, I tell you what.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You sent a lady in Europe, right? The dog in Europe? Yes. You sent her the first 500 and when she get in with the dog, I'll tell you what You sent the lady In Europe, right? The dog in Europe Yes You sent her the first 500 And when she get in with the dog I see the other 52 I already sent her the money I already sent her half
Starting point is 01:09:53 Okay, when the dog get in I pay for the dog Okay, there you go I got you I promise you I got you. I promise you. I got you. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.
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