Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Russell Wilson dominates, Brock Purdy excuses, Saquon Barkley’s revenge

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Mike Tomlin giving veteran Russell Wilson the start over Justin Fields for the Pittsburgh Steelers in a 30-15 win over Aaron Rodgers, Davante A...dams and the New York Jets on Sunday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho GO IN on Brock Purdy and the injury riddled San Francisco 49ers after losing to an undefeated Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, destroy the New York Giants after getting embarrassed by their former RB Saquon Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles and much more!03:28 - Show starts03:35 - Intro06:35 - Jets lose to Steelers21:50 - Chiefs beat 49ers44:40 - Lions beat Vikings56:40 - Packers beat Texans01:02:00 - Bengals beat Browns01:09:45 - Eagles beat Giants(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:56 The Steelers beat the Jets 37-15. They got a great night from Najee Harris. Back-to-back 100 yards game. 21 rushes, 100 yards, 102 yards, one touchdown. Russell Wilson, 16 of 29, 264, two touchdowns. George Pickens had his best game of the season, Ocho. Five for a buck 11 and a couple of circus catches and one touchdown. Friar Mute, two catches, 51 yards, and a great one-hand catch to keep a drive alive.
Starting point is 00:07:21 The Steelers played extremely well. They took the ball away from the Jets twice, and they roll at home, 37-15. Who was the quarterback? What you like? Who was the quarterback tonight? Yeah, Russell Wilson. And I'm not talking about Russell. I ain't talking about the basketball, Russell. I'm not talking about
Starting point is 00:07:38 Russell Athletic. I'm talking about motherfucking Russell Wilson. Let him cook. That's what he was doing tonight. He was cooking. I told you. I him cook. That's what he was doing tonight. He was cooking. I told you. I told you. Listen, he should have been the starter. Justin Fields played well. Let me start with that.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Chat, Justin Fields played extremely well, but tonight because of the running game and obviously the receiver stepped up tonight and played very well. The passing game looked very good tonight. The little moon balls he kept throwing, the little floating balls. George picking the
Starting point is 00:08:10 50-50 ball. He coming down with that thing every time. Every time. That guy's defense was suffocating though. That goddamn Steelers defense was suffocating tonight. They look really good on offense. They look really good on defense. I didn't see TJ Watt enough. I didn't see TJ Watt enough.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I didn't see him enough. The Jets did very well. They did a great job of chipping him, Mocho. If you notice Bree Hall, the tight ends, everybody chipped. I'm not going to let him beat me. Hey, Beanie, God damn, what's the nigga's name? The rookie. Beanie.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, 31 Bishop. How you say it? Beanie Bishop. That's it, right rookie. Beanie. Oh, 31 Bishop. How you say it? Beanie Bishop. That's it, right? Beanie Bishop. Yeah, Beanie Bishop Jr. Number 31. That young fella there?
Starting point is 00:08:53 That young fella there, nice, huh? He's nice. Like, I'm somebody. He's so nice. And I hate to do the comparison. For some reason, he reminds me of goddamn Brian Brands tonight. He was all over the field. He was everywhere, making play out play. This is not the first
Starting point is 00:09:07 time I see him stand out on film or stand out on TV when they're playing defense. That's motherfucking nice. Benny, how you say it? I don't want to mess up his name. Benny Bishop. If you see this, boy, you're the real deal.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Holler at your boy. Boy, you're the real one. Other than that, the Steelers look good. I told Boy, you the real deal. Boy, how about you, boy? Boy, you the real one. Other than that, the Steelers look good, huh? I told you, all the people talking shit. Why you got Russ starting? Why they bitching Justin Fields? They're winning tonight. Now you saw why. Let Russell Wilson cook.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Let me ask you a question. If the Steelers take the ball away like they did tonight with Justin Fields, like they've done because they had a winning record when Justin Fields was in there. And they make a concerted effort. Now, this was the first game. If you notice, they made a concerted effort to get George Pickens the ball. You said y'all need to give the ball to George Pickens. Y'all need to put the ball.
Starting point is 00:09:58 They watched the show. Mike Tomlin watched the show. Okay. Why did he do that with Justin Fields? Justin Fields said, why did y'all make a concern so have me throw the ball? But you got to admit this, Ocho. A couple of the catches that he was making,
Starting point is 00:10:12 the catches that Fryer Moose was making, I'm like, the ball hit the guy on the back of the shoulder pads. He catches, the guy pulls it out, it pops out, he catches it again. Now, he's going to make, the one thing about that young man, that he's going to make circus catches. Every time.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He's going to have a lack of concentration, laughs and judgment, and drop a routine easy pass. And you're like, bro, I just saw you take one up the top of your shoe from behind your back. How you drop this when you're right between the one and the top of your shoe from behind your back how you drop this right between the one and the four
Starting point is 00:10:47 but if you look at the way they ran the ball tonight with Najee Harris and you know what Najee Harris remind me of like his gate is small his running gate is small he's not fast I don't know how to fucking explain it
Starting point is 00:11:03 remember when Marion Bobby used the tote to rock? Yeah. I swear to God, he and Marion Bobby, they run angry, but they smooth as hell. Yeah. The way they run.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yes. You know, it's not like, you know, when Pacheco run, you could tell like he, like he trying like, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:17 uh, uh, uh, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:19 yeah. It's like a smooth, like organized chaos type anger. The way Najee Harris and Marion Barber run the ball. He look good tonight, too. He look good tonight. Yeah. But, you know, give the Steelers credit. I mean, Mike Tomlin,
Starting point is 00:11:34 he knows what was at stake. They needed to win this game. They had to win this game. You make a decision like that when the guy, it's not like you lost games because Justin Fields played bad. And I think the thing is that you minimize and they still minimize it. They're not going to take. They're not just going to spray the ball all over the field.
Starting point is 00:11:51 That's not the type of offense that they have. Give Arthur Smith credit. If you notice, they started the game off with what? Play action. Boot. Let's slow this pass rush down, Ocho. And let's settle in. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Go ahead. Even though it's not their offense, I think you think about the offense the Steelers had when they had Ben Roethlisberger, when they threw the ball all over the place. I think now going back to the old school style of 2000s, Jerome Bettis, Willie Parker, running the ball. And when you run the ball first, open up the pass.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But I think the fact that you have a Russell Wilson who come from an offense where he can facilitate the ball and when you run the ball first, open up the pass. But I think the fact that you have a Russell Wilson who come from offense where he can facilitate the ball and throw all the throws, whether they be short, intermediate, or deep, I think the playbook opens up a little bit more as opposed to if Justin
Starting point is 00:12:39 Fields was in there a quarterback. I think just based off experience alone. It's really hard to say ocho because the steelers really dominated this game i mean once they got into the game they settled in they really dominated my only concerns and i've said this and everybody oh all they need is a quarterback i said let's just say for the sake of argument the jets defense can't hold people to 10 and 13 points. Then what?
Starting point is 00:13:07 I said, now, if you go study history, if you look at historically great defenses, if you look at really good defenses, they don't stay good everything. I mean, you go look at the 2000 Ravens. The 2001 Ravens had a good defense. They weren't 2000. Go look at the old two bucks.
Starting point is 00:13:23 The old three bucks had a good, they weren't the old two bucks. Go look at the Legion of Boom, the 03 Bucks had a good, they weren't the 02 Bucks. Go look at the Legion of Boom, the year they beat the Broncos in New York in the Super Bowl. The next year, they were good, they weren't bad. And so all I'm saying is what happened that they have a little slippage because you're saying that our
Starting point is 00:13:37 defense is good enough to hold us down, all we need is a quarterback. Well, there are times that Aaron Rodgers look, he don't look like the old Aaron Rodgers. He looks like an old Aaron Rodgers. One thing I will say is the Jets defense isn't the Jets defense that we're used to seeing. They were shaking at night.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Sometimes they'll have spurts where they look good. The Jets offense throughout the entirety of the season, sometimes Aaron Rodgers looks like Aaron Rodgers and sometimes he doesn't so the offense as well it has flashes and spurts of oh shit gonna be nice yeah they have a great offensive series then they have full series
Starting point is 00:14:16 where it look like well what the hell y'all doing y'all look y'all look lost out there so when they get to a point when they get to a point on when they get to a point on, when the defense can put it together like we were used to seeing last year, and the offense plays a little bit more consistently,
Starting point is 00:14:31 just a little bit more consistently, you know, make some of those catches, make some of those throws, convert some of those third downs, I think they'll be all right. But they need to get it done. They need to get it done now. They need to fix it now.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Brees Hall, 12 for 38. They have 15 carries for 54 yards. What am I going to do with that, Ocho? You're not going to be able to do nothing. That puts so much pressure on Rodgers. And listen, guys, it's okay. He's not what he once
Starting point is 00:15:01 was. He's not. He's not. Like you said what he once was. He's not. He's not. Like you said, oh, he has some good moments. He hasn't played a clean game. We're used to seeing Aaron Rodgers play great for the entirety of the game. He is not one of these guys that he played like a moment here or a moment there. That's Aaron Rodgers. He's historically great. He's transcendently great. He hasn't moment there. That's Aaron Rodgers. He's historically great. He's transcendently
Starting point is 00:15:26 great. He hasn't been there. They need him to be there. That's what they gave up. That's why they gave it up on Joe. Also, if Aaron Rodgers to you, based on what you've seen, based on hell,
Starting point is 00:15:41 what all of us have seen is he's still good. He still has flashes of greatness and shows it. But the fact that he's not the Aaron Rodgers he used to be, and that means the people around him have to be that much better. The people around him have to be a little bit more consistent than he is. So sometimes the receivers,
Starting point is 00:15:58 I need you to save the day. Sometimes the ball might be off a little bit. I need you to save the day. Sometimes you got to save your quarterback because he's not the same as he used to be as opposed to back then if it was the old Green Bay Aaron Rodgers. You know what?
Starting point is 00:16:10 I'm going to say, y'all, don't worry about it. I got it. Now this time, I'm a little older and I'm not the same as I used to be. I need you to have my back. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And it's been, I mean, he's 40. He's coming off a serious injury. He's on a different team. He's not in Green Bay. There's a different person in his ear. You know, for the longest time, it was Nathaniel Hackett for the first four or five games. And now he has a different someone, Todd Downing.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I think that's his name. That's in his ear. It's different. It's different. He's different. And it's okay to admit that. I mean, what we've got to get out of doing, Ocho, a lot of times when we critique a historically great player,
Starting point is 00:17:01 if we say he or she is not playing well currently, people think like you're trying to diminish what they've already done. I can't take those. We can't take those MVPs away from Aaron Rodgers. We can't take that Super Bowl away from him. We can't take away those all pros, all the times he's gone to the Pro Bowl. We're talking about the game. We're talking about this season.
Starting point is 00:17:22 We're talking about right now. So I need my viewing and listening audience to get out of that thinking, that thought process. Because we say a person is not playing well, it doesn't diminish what he or she has already accomplished. We're talking about right now. That's what
Starting point is 00:17:38 we're critiquing. We're not critiquing their career. There'll be a time and a place where they'll say, okay, Ocho, what do you think about this person's career? Now we have to bring in everything in its totality. But currently, all we're talking about is this year. We're talking about the 2024 Jets. We're talking about the
Starting point is 00:17:53 2024 Aaron Rodgers. We're not talking about the Aaron Rodgers that's won the MVP. We're not talking about the Aaron Rodgers that went to and won a Super Bowl and was the Super Bowl MVP. We're not talking, we're only talking about 2024 Aaron Rodgers that went to and won a Super Bowl and was the Super Bowl MVP. We're not talking. We're only talking about 2024 Aaron Rodgers and how and why he's not playing up to par and why the Jets aren't better than what they are. That's the only thing we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I see you out there, Russ. I see you cooking, boy. He played well. He was 62020", 29, 2'64", two touchdowns, no interceptions, a clean game, 36 rush attempts for the Steelers, 149, two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:18:34 George Pickens, by far, had his best game of the season. Five catches for Buck 11 and one touchdown, long of 44-09 targets. He played extremely well. They played extremely well. They did a great job of neutralizing the Jets' pass rush. And give those guys, give the Steelers credit. They have the same record.
Starting point is 00:18:54 5-2, they have the same record with the Ravens, right? The Ravens play tomorrow night. They play Tampa. That's going to be a good game tomorrow night, boy. It's a doubleheader, though. I hate when they do a doubleheader because now what game are we supposed to watch? I'm watching the Ravens and the Bucs. Who's up?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Who's up again? You only got one TV? You ain't got two TVs in the same room? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, time out, time out. Why would I have multiple TVs running and that cause a spike in my goddamn light bill?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Why would I do that? Well, because that's a part of your job. That's like, well, why would I buy a nice outfit to go to work? Why would I buy a nice... Because that's your job. It requires you to have slacks or khakis and a button
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Starting point is 00:24:44 Bucks and the Ravens. I see you, Russ. Hey, Mike Tomlin, I know you're going to see this too because I know you'll be watching the show. Thank you for listening to me. Get George picking the ball. Yes. I feel great.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Ocho, the 49ers remain the lone unbeaten as they go to Levi's Stadium and take down the 49ers 28-18 Mahomes through two interceptions against the 49ers he has eight on the seasons one was deflected on a deflected pass the other was when Xavier Worthy fell
Starting point is 00:25:20 on the route he has six passing touchdowns and through six games this season. KC defense continues to stifle its opponent until Sunday marked the 27th consecutive game in which the Steelers, the Chiefs, have allowed 28 of your points. On Sunday, they stymied the 49ers run game,
Starting point is 00:25:39 putting the ball in Brock Purdy's hand, and we already know Spag's debunked pressure, forced another three interceptions. Didn't Purdy have like three? How many interceptions did he have last week? Brock Purdy, 17-31, 2-1-2, three interceptions, zero touchdowns, a QBR of 13. Mason, they had 14 carries for 58 yards.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Brock Purdy had 8 for 27 24 rushes 101 yards hey now okay okay okay 49ers tell us about Brock Purdy he elite y'all been telling me
Starting point is 00:26:22 he elite hey Devo out Juwan Jennings out I you got hurt you got hurt Christian McCaffrey's out I mean hey um I mean I'm not I'm not taking up I'm not taking up a party but how efficient is he supposed to be when your superstars are going like that? When the players that make that team go or make that offense go, what are you supposed to do? That's like
Starting point is 00:26:52 if you got an engine, but ain't got no belt, the engine run, but the car can't move because ain't no belt on the goddamn engine. I don't even know if that analogy makes sense. It makes sense, but when Lamar didn't have receivers, we didn't give him Lamar. No,
Starting point is 00:27:06 when Patrick Mahomes guys were dropping passes and they out of the game, we didn't give him no excuse. So now we make it. We were saying he's a product of the system. I don't begrudge him for being on the system to have D boy and have IU and have all those weapons. I don't begrudge that, but let's call it what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's almost a situation like Job. He has everything. Let's remove that hedge and see what he can do. Hey, Job, Job gonna get it done anyway now. Don't do that. No, I'm saying Job in the Bible. Hey, that's my nigga Job. Cool, boy.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Look at Job. The devil said, of course he's going to praise you. The devil told you, God, he's like, yeah, he's going to praise you. You gave him everything. He said, remove that hedge and he'll cuss his bearish maker. And listen, that goes for a lot of things in life, too, huh? Some of your best friends, some of the people you think is your friends, tell them no one time.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Watch what happens. That's what anybody I signed 50 autographs I don't sign 51 asshole I mean I'm in the airport all the time and you know they're like hey you mind if I get a picture? I said, man, I wish I could.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I said, but if I take one, I mean, then everybody's going to start. But hey, nobody's going to notice it. So nobody's going to see me with me and you standing side by side, my arm around you. Nobody's going to see me. Nobody's going to see that. It's like, damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Nobody's going to recognize you. I said, you did? I said, damn. Nobody's going to recognize you. I said, you did? I said, no. But that's the idea of the show. And you learn to accept those things. You learn a lot about people when you tell them no.
Starting point is 00:28:59 When you tell them no and when you make them angry. You tell them no and you make them angry. You find out a lot. I'm like, damn, I told you one time one time I say no yeah and now I'm a mofo I ain't ish I ain't never done nothing for you before
Starting point is 00:29:17 well god damn I just okay if I ain't done today. I'm sorry. You got to start writing stuff down. You do for people and then remind them later on when they kind of forget. When you say no, like, listen, this ain't the right time for this. I ain't going to remind them because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:29:38 No, because here's the thing. You just have to put limits on what you give. Takers never put limits on what they take. Exactly. So I don don't take forever now. They don't take forever. Exactly. So I don't need to remind you. I don't need to remind you. Ocho, I really, there's only been a handful of times in my life that I've given something
Starting point is 00:29:58 and I've expected something in return. Normally, if I give somebody, now if it's a large sum, let's just say I give somebody, somebody I really know.'ll just say hey bro it's like hey Sean hey bro I need I need a favor okay what say no more what is it bro can you can you slide me can you slide me a hundred dollars
Starting point is 00:30:17 no problem oh oh hey hold up. Wait, I got a question. Before you even finish the story. Yeah. Now, if you have someone that needs $100,000,
Starting point is 00:30:32 now, will they ever be in a position to be able to pay that back? Or how does that work? Do they have to pay you back? Or you let them? No. Normally what I do, give me $50,000 back when you can. And let the other $50,000 go? I eat the other $50,000. Okay, you're when you can. And let the other 50 go? I eat the other 50.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Okay, you're a real one. You're a real one. I like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Because here's the thing. I look at my friends, my true friends.
Starting point is 00:30:57 If the roles were reversed, I can honestly say. No question. No question. Man, I tell the story. And Bucky, to tell you i had a i had a range rover i only had like 25 miles on it and i was gonna get it the new the new model was coming out and he said man homeboy i said uh home i'm gonna get rid of my truck you want it he's like homeboy i would i would love to have it but homeboy i can't i can't afford that
Starting point is 00:31:21 i say i cut you a deal uh The blue book on it was like 60. I said, I'll tell you what. Can you swing 25? I said, I'll tell you what. Give me 25. I just got another four-year extended warranty, which was about $6,000. So it's about $66,000 total. I said, give me 25 and I'll let you have it.
Starting point is 00:31:43 He said, you for real? So he go to the credit union and he gave them the VIN number and everything and they pulled it up and they said he only wants $25. That's my homeboy. And I only charged him $25 because I don't want him to feel like
Starting point is 00:31:57 I paid for this. My homeboy gave me nothing. So that's what I do for my homeboy. But normally if I give somebody a large sum of money, like somebody I know, not obviously my brother and my sister. My brother ain't no nothing. He ain't never got to pay me back. He can come get a
Starting point is 00:32:14 million right now and he good for it forever. But my homeboys, like people I know, they good. They good. I don't ask for anything. But anytime I give anybody money money i don't expect it back because i'm only going to give you what i can afford to give and not expect it back so i'm not going to give you something that man i wonder we're going to pay back and then i don't want you
Starting point is 00:32:38 to avoid me you know some people you give somebody you hear from no more you hear from no more hey when i think about that i think about you know it's funny i think about the friends i have like that with the with the roles reversed if i needed it like like i'm i'm thinking about who is really in a position where if i was effed up like they they really got me and And they were like, you know, what's this for? Man, I ain't got, like, nothing. If I was to call T.O. and I was in an unfortunate situation, and I say, T-boy, A-boy, I need you. And he going to say, what number and how much, what's your route number? Nothing else.
Starting point is 00:33:23 If I call T.J., who's Mazzara? Nothing else. If I call TJ, I call T, I say, T, boy. Hey, boy, you ain't looking up, boy. The sun down over here right now, baby. Can you put some on the floor for you, boy? I'm going to pick it up. And TJ going to be like, man, what you doing?
Starting point is 00:33:41 Get on me for a little bit. Man, give me your bank information little bit. Yeah. Man, give me your bank information. No questions asked. At all. Yeah. That's it. Nothing. And the same goes for them. But they...
Starting point is 00:33:57 But that's a great feeling to have, don't you, to know you're in a situation that if the roles were reversed, I'm very fortunate. God bless me. God has put favor on me. And I've been able to bless my homeboys, you know, like bucket always, every game.
Starting point is 00:34:10 He's always, I always fly him out. I always bring, he go to the Superbowl. He's been every, every, every major event. When I went to the vision to hall of fame,
Starting point is 00:34:18 I went to the Bronco ring of fame. I was brought a Colorado sports hall of fame, the division two hall of fame, everything I've been to, he of Fame, the Division II Hall of Fame. Everything I've been to, he's been there. He's like, homeboy, hey. And he be, hey, he'll call, he'll call Shelly. I want to, you ain't got to pay for that, bro. I got you.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I mean, he always offers to pay. And that's all I can ask for. Man, hey. Man, I don't want nothing. Hey, he come up and stay in Atlanta. Hey, homeboy, I got a hotel. Bro, why you got a hotel room? Even when I'm not there, Man, hey. Man, I don't want nothing. Hey, he come up and stay in Atlanta. Hey, homeboy, I got a hotel. Bro, why you got a hotel room? Even when I'm not there, bro, you know you got a place to stay. Same thing
Starting point is 00:34:52 with Burns. He coming through with his wife and he going to see the kids. Everybody stay at the crib. I ain't there. You good. That's how I am with my friends. They come when I was in the league, Ocho. They would come for the Super Bowl. I'm working because, you know, I got the NFL. I'm doing stuff for the NFL.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Man, they there eating up all my food. I come home hungry. Man, who that ate all the food? Yeah. But if I'm cool, I rock with you, Ocho. I rock with you hard. That's how I am, man. Because I'm very fortunate.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Like I said, Ocho, I'm fortunate. And I know if the roles were reversed, ain't no question in my mind, I could call them up and what I do for them, they would do for me. I got a small group. I got a small group like that too.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Similar to that of your friends, you know, like Bucket and those that's been around you for a long time. You know, I got my Cincinnati crew. It's that same, same. I remember I got lost. Quick, quick little story. Quick You know, I got my Cincinnati crew. It's the same, same, but I remember I got lost. Quick, quick little story.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I got drafted. Obviously, no drafts in April. So, you know, you go in the following day and you're supposed to meet the coaches,
Starting point is 00:35:55 meet at, you know, facility. So I did all that. I go driving around the city. And back then, it's 2000. The GPS wasn't on the phone yet so of course here i go i just venture
Starting point is 00:36:08 out on my own i get lost i get lost i find a car wash i pull over to the car wash the person my homeboy jermaine boy i know a lot of people in cincinnati might be watching met jermaine boy man i never forget asking for directions told him who I was man I just got drafted to the Bengals but I'm lost right now man if you could if you could help me
Starting point is 00:36:29 find my way back to the stadium you know I'd be grateful he got in this car drove me all the way back to the stadium man we've been friends you've followed him back
Starting point is 00:36:38 we've been friends ever since so now it's 2024 that was 2001 that's 23 years 23 years. 23 years, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:49 And if anything ever happened, or if I need something, I could call him. I got my homeboy I grew up with. He grew up three doors down from me. Rashard. You know, if you're in Miami, you're in the chat, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:58 doink. Anything I need. That's great, man. That's how I am, Ocho. Even people that do serve, that provide a service for me, Ocho. Yeah. 20 plus years? It's hard to find. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:37:15 me and Burns been friends 30 plus years. Me and Bucket coming up on down there 40 years. Both of Bucket was my teammate in college, started in 88. Burns was my teammate in Denver in 94. And everybody, I was cool with everybody. Everybody I i would call i remember fracturing my eye socket this is how me and burns got cool i fractured my eye socket and and so you know i obviously i couldn't drive ocho man i'm hungry everybody i call no i'm sorry shot man i can't can't. I got such and such a time. Got this going on. I can't. I said, man.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And I remember getting his number. I said, I'll call it. I said, hey, Burns. He's like, man, what's up? I said, man, I need you to do me a favor. I said, man, go to Wendy's. Give me a double cheeseburger, fries, and a large Coke.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He said, hey. He said, let me get my daughter situated because I got to bring her with me. And I got you. That's all I needed to know. He couldn't say, man, I got my daughter, Michelle gone, blah, blah, blah. That's what he said. He said, let me get her situated, get her in the car. I'll be right there, homeboy.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You'd never forget stuff like that, huh? Never forget stuff like that. And it's small. It's something so small, too. Something so small, based on circumstance, can mean so much, and it lasts forever. It lasts forever. My grandmother in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:38:46 My grandma in the hospital in Savannah. Hey, Bucket, do me a favor. Go by and ask them do they want anything to eat. He go by. Hey, y'all need anything? What's close by? It ain't got to be close by. What you want?
Starting point is 00:39:00 You want carry here? You want barns? What you want? You want seafood? You want this? Hey, they good. They good. That's a great feeling.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Since Kyle Shanahan took over in 2017, the 49ers are 0-5 against the Chiefs. The Niner situation turned dismal to disastrous. Jawan Jennings' hip was already out. Debo Samuels played three snaps Left due to illness Brandon Aiyuk went down just before halftime In what is feared to be a serious ACL
Starting point is 00:39:33 Christian McCaffrey continues to be absent Shanahan's Offense was a shell of itself Kyle just lectured Brock Purdy for five minutes At his locker, Purdy listened Said nothing, never seen anything Like it Cal just lectured Brock Purdy for five minutes at his locker. Purdy listened, said nothing. Never seen anything like it. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Also, it's hard to win in this league. It's hard when your stars, when they're not aligned, which means they're not there. I mean, you lose Debo, you lose Ayuk, you lose Jennings. Those are your three top receivers. So think about it. You barely dress five. You only dress like five receivers.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Just five? Yeah. Five. You dress five. So now you got guys playing that they're normally special teams guys. Yeah, they get reps in practice, but they're not really. Now they got to play major. Debo leaves. So you might have had six because Debo was already out. Yeah, they get reps in practice, but they're not really. Now they got to play major.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Debo leaves. So you might have had six because Debo was already out. So you had another body up. Now Brandon Ayuk goes out. Debo plays three snaps. Ayuk goes out. Ocho. Now you get guys.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Now it's easy. Oh, I'm ready. Damn, we playing the Chiefs. Them the two-time Super Bowl champs. Oh, they good. With a great defense. With a good defense. From corners to corners and safeties that can
Starting point is 00:41:01 play some guys. You're dealing with McDuffie. McDuffie, he doesn't get the credit, but I'm not so sure. I don't know who you think the best deals, but he ain't. Hey, I ain't saying he ain't top three, but I don't know if he two or three. That's all I'm saying. I see them today. They call the PI on the day where he ran the route for the receiver. He ran the route for the receiver.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And I'm like, hey, ref, you can't throw that. You can't throw that. It's the game of football. Sometimes it hands you a little bit. But if he running the route for the man, what are we doing? Yeah. It ain't my fault it ain't no fault my fault
Starting point is 00:41:47 that he tipping the route because DB's career you tip hey you start the lead if you want to they're running for you the funny thing about it is
Starting point is 00:41:54 they were in condensed splits with the bunch formation and he ran the route normally I would think that would be a little bit more confusing as a DB
Starting point is 00:42:03 because you don't know which way people is going to go. I mean, listen, that ain't that one number film study. Absolutely. I'm looking at the formation. I'm looking at the area of the field and I'm looking at down and distance.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That's going to, hey, Ocho, I'm looking at the area of the field down in distance so I look at your split mm-hmm oh second down oh man you done tightened your split down okay
Starting point is 00:42:34 you think I don't know what you about to do you got to be going across huh yeah mm-hmm now a lot of times a lot of times, a lot of times
Starting point is 00:42:46 when they stack it, they like to run, they like to run the outside guy so they got one, two, the guy over here. They like to let
Starting point is 00:42:52 these guys push ahead, let him slide through because you got to run over the traffic. Hey, that McDuffie, that's one of the reasons why they kind of let Snead,
Starting point is 00:43:04 it's like, okay, yeah, we'd love to have two, but this young guy coming, and Ocho, you're going to have to pay him a King's ransom now. You're going to have to pay him a King's ransom. You got to realize he was
Starting point is 00:43:17 first-team all-pro. And he don't look like he's slipping. He don't look like he's slipping. He don't look like he's slipping. He look like he headed for another first team all-around. Not at all. Hell, hold on. Speaking of slipping, hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:31 The Kansas City Chiefs offense is slipping. I think Mahomes gets the pad. If you look at Mahomes, you look at his numbers, his TD to interception ratio, hey, Uncle, if it was anybody else, if it was anybody else, but obviously because it's the Chiefs, obviously because it's Mahomes, because he's a two-time Super Bowl champion, he gets a pass.
Starting point is 00:43:52 He gets a pass. For some reason, at the beginning of the season, they always look like this. Or his numbers don't look like what they should look like. They still need another target. They need another way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I don't know if I've seen Ocho this. Ocho, I mean, this 154, these 140s for an entire game. He used to have that in a quarter. Hey, you remember when they played Tampa that year and Tyreek had 202 in the first quarter? I remember the game. Yeah. I remember that. And the dude had three, like
Starting point is 00:44:23 370 at the half. We're used to seeing, I mean, he has the highest passing yards per game average. He's like 294. I think he only has one game over 300. He might not have very many
Starting point is 00:44:39 games. I think the Super Bowl, he had over 300 because he went to overtime. But when you needed to make games, I think the Super Bowl, he had over 300 because he went to overtime. But when you needed to make a play, Ocho, you see the run that he had? He get away from Warner. You know what? You talk about where he pumped fake, he did the fake
Starting point is 00:44:55 double. You notice players are scared to hit the quarterback, and now quarterbacks are having an opportunity to take advantage of okay, I don't want to hit him. And instead of pushing him out or hitting him and make sure he goes out of bounds, he stays in and keep on running.
Starting point is 00:45:13 That was during our time. Man, he would have been over there on the sidelines that were under the Gatorade goddamn cooler. Oh, that's why guys is like, man, why'd you hit him? Man, you done made me run all over here.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm going to lay his ass out. Them big guys, they don't like running all the way over there for nothing, don't you? And to see you run out of bounds. Oh, I'm going to get that lick on you. I'm going to get a hit on you. But give them credit. I'm not so sure that there's any other team that would be undefeated
Starting point is 00:45:48 with the quarterback playing as bad as Mahomes. He's not playing well. And I'm not, you know, look, I'm not breaking news to anyone. You watch the game. He hasn't played well.
Starting point is 00:45:58 He's made plays in a timely manner. He makes them when they matter most. He makes the damn plays when they matter most. The Mah the damn plays when they matter most. But the homes that we're used to seeing? No. Kareem Hunt is better than God's sin.
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Starting point is 00:51:08 during the Lions' current four-game win streak. The Lions have scored 120 points over the past three games, are the most in a three-game span since they scored 125 in 1997. With the Eagles and 49ers sorting through a bunch of early season issues with the head-to-head road victory of the Vikings in their pocket, the Lions are the NFC's team to beat. The Lions gave up 383 yards, but when it counted late, they got off the field, give it to their offense, and guess what?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Jerry Goff went down the field, got in field goal range, they kick a walk-off field goal. Jameer Gibbs, 116 rush yards, collected another 144 rushing. He became the first Lions player with 150-plus scrimmage yards and two rushing touchdowns in a game since 2011. That game was good, boy. It was. Jerry Goff was 22 or 25.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Let me give you Jerry Goff stats, Ocho. 22 or 25, 280 me give you Jerry Goff stats, Ocho. 22 or 25. 280, two touchdowns. Remember, he had a game this season where he was 18 of 18. So he's 22 or 25 for 280, two touchdowns. Clean, no picks. They rushed the ball 27 times. 144, two touchdowns. On my run, St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Eight catches. A buck 12, one touchdown. Gales, four for 44. Khalif Raymond, three for 39. A tub. Montgomery, three for 39. Laporta. The only one that didn't do a whole lot was Jamison Williams.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It's so funny. The fact that you just said that. Last week, Jamison Williams went off. Last week, Jamison Williams went off, and Amon Ross St. Brown didn't really do anything. This week, Jamison Williams went off, and Amon Ross St. Brown didn't really do anything. This week, Jamison Williams didn't do much, and Amon Ross St. Brown goes crazy. The balance. Jameer Gibbs, one week, he has a good game.
Starting point is 00:52:57 David Montgomery doesn't do much. Today. I think it's the first game this season that Montgomery hadn't scored a touchdown Jameer Gidd was on fire today boy I think they were able to do so well offensively because they were able to run the ball it made the pass game that much better
Starting point is 00:53:15 oh they're going to run the ball now you know their coach believes in that because running the football is a mentality it's not about tricking somebody it's about lining up and man them mano a mano putting a hat and moving a man against his will that's what the running game is about it's about an attitude yeah it's about i believe that i'm more physical than you. And so now that sets up everything else.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Detroit, I ain't breaking no news to nobody. Detroit legit, don't you? Talk about Aaron Glenn and that defense now. Oh, yeah. Aaron Glenn and that defense. That goddamn Brian Branch. I know people are probably tired of me talking about Brian Branch.
Starting point is 00:54:02 That boy is nice, bro. He's nice. Depending on what package he's in, sometimes he's a nickel, sometimes he's a safety. Yep. Man, all over the place. And they're young. Yeah, they got a bunch of babies out there.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Outside of Carlton Davis, I think Carlton Davis might be wrong, but Carlton Davis might be the oldest player. And he ain't even old. They look good. Terry on Arnold. Them boys had their hand full with Justin Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And they did an okay job. 7 for 81, him and 7 for 81. He had eight targets, one touchdown. Addison had three for 66. Naylor had four for 76 but they did a job Sam Darnold was 22 of 27 259 one touchdown
Starting point is 00:54:50 one interception did a great job they pressured him Aaron Jones running the ball extremely well again yeah you still think they need to go get somebody to
Starting point is 00:55:01 replace Aiden hell yeah I'm going to get Crossy yeah To get somebody to replace Aiden? Hell yeah. I'm going to get cross. Oh, still think? Yeah. I'm going to get cross. Can you imagine what that defense would be with that kind of pressure now? That'd be crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Oh, you know, I got another one. I got another one for you just to throw it out there. The number one pick that went to Jacksonville a few years ago. Walker? What you think no no I take I'll take what I take absolutely Max Motor
Starting point is 00:55:38 Max Motor Max have what you can't teach oh yeah he don't go now he don't go that relentless effort you can't teach. He don't go now. He don't go. That relentless effort. He don't go 24-7. Like a college frat boy. He don't go.
Starting point is 00:55:57 The trade deadline is what? Next week? Next Tuesday? Or this Tuesday? Next Tuesday. So a week from Tuesday, Ocho, is the trade deadline. I ain't waiting. I ain't waiting.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Hey, what y'all want from Max? I give you a first and a third. I give you a first this year, a third this year, and I give you a fifth next year. The following in 20 and 26. Man, they ain't giving up no Max Kropp and no first The following, in 20, in 20, in 26. Yeah, I heard somebody say, man, we ain't giving, they ain't giving up no,
Starting point is 00:56:26 Matt Crosby's no first and a third. Shit, the hell they ain't. Would you hear, man, you crazy. For what? Cause, let me ask you a question. Tell me the player that you're gonna get because you're going to the playoffs and I believe you're gonna make a deep run.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Tell me the player that you can get in the draft that's gonna be 28 or lower that's better than Matt Crosby. Tell me the player that y'all can get. Nathaniel. And here's the thing. He can't help you until 25. Max Crosby can help you
Starting point is 00:56:53 in 24. So, for me, it's a no-brainer for me. It's easy especially if you're serious if you're serious about making a run if you're serious about making a run I would pull the trigger
Starting point is 00:57:11 I'm not sure who makes that call the Fords I think Telesco is the GM but Mark Davis obviously when you trade a franchise player like Crosby obviously the owner is going to be involved in it.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Because here's the thing. You don't have a quarterback. And you might want some extra ammunition to move up. Make it a fire sale then. Look,
Starting point is 00:57:43 y'all are doing it. First of all, you're not going nowhere. You're not going anywhere. You know that, I know then. Look, y'all are doing it. You're not going. First of all, you're not going nowhere. You're not going anywhere. You know that. I know that. You're not going. So I'm not going. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Here's the thing. Now I can lose the house and then I can sell all the parts in it. And then maybe, hey, maybe move down and get me something next year. But I didn't feel like take everything. everything so what I keep Max Crosby he's already made it abundantly clear I don't want to be a part of a rebuild I'm about winning not going to win in
Starting point is 00:58:16 Vegas they know that yes listen the Lions to the Raiders Dan Campbell need to send my homie Antonio Pierce a message and just text him
Starting point is 00:58:31 help me help you that's it help me help you and I get him out of the AFC go to the AFC I Go to the AFC. Go to the AFC. I ain't got to worry about you
Starting point is 00:58:47 because I ain't going to face you anytime soon because it will be a wave before we get to a Super Bowl, so I ain't worried about him. Let him rake shop over there. But I'm definitely trying to. That's what I'm trying to do, Ocho. All right, Ocho. We'll be right back after this quick. President Trump, why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?
Starting point is 00:59:16 I don't know. I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black and then I read that she was black. Vice President Harris. We have someone who wants to be president who has consistently attempted to use race to divide. And I think the American people want better than that, want better than this. We all have dreams and want a president who invests in those, not in hate and division. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:45 What you looking at? What's on your mind? What you thinking? Hey, you know what I was thinking about? What you thinking about? I'm thinking about, you know, the presidency. I'm thinking about the two people who are running that we have to choose from. And I always thought,
Starting point is 01:00:05 obviously, I'm really not into politics as heavy as I'd like. I have family members that are. Don Lemon, we're related. He's into politics really good. Mark Lamont, Anthony Hill, he's another cousin of mine. He's really into politics.
Starting point is 01:00:23 But I would love to represent the people. You know that? And it's probably, I'm not the right person to do so, but I would just love to be in that position of power, you know, to be the president. Like, could you imagine what I could do? No. You know, if I was in the highest seat, can you imagine the i could do no you know if i if i was if i was in the highest seat
Starting point is 01:00:46 can you can you imagine the changes i would make you know when we talk about someone representing and being for the people like that's me like i live by that like i really live it i don't talk it like you know part of being part of politics is talking and selling a dream getting people to actually vote for you. But what the people need is somebody like me that actually, you know, talk the talk and actually walks it. I'm really like that.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like I could just imagine my, my, I just, when it's time for me to give a speech, you know, and I, and I started my speeches with, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:22 for the American people, I just want you to know I fucking love you. And then I will get into whatever the topics are at hand. Like, I just I would just be perfect for that. You know, I'm just I just thought about that just after watching that ad. And I don't know, man. Damn. Are you you know, who are you voting for? Or am I am I being a little too nosy? I don't mean, man. Damn. Who are you voting for?
Starting point is 01:01:46 Or am I being a little too nosy? I don't mean to be too personal. I'm going to keep that between me and the ballot. I got my ballot here. So I'm about to go upstairs and fill it out. Make sure it gets back
Starting point is 01:02:02 in time. Look, the thing is, Ocho, you got a lot to back in time. Look, the thing is, Ocho, you got a lot of being in politics. And you say you're going to be for the people, but the thing is that you need those big donors. Oh, I got donors now.
Starting point is 01:02:16 That's going to fund the campus. So what you think they want to return? What you think they want to return? I got them. I got him i got him one one hand broke the other man you got i i understand the political game very well now but this is the problem the people don't understand it i don't think the people understand it now i'm not now we're not gonna make this a political goddamn debate because this is nightcap not uh not not fox news or cnn but you know i'm gonna that be. We'll save that for another date.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah, I can get into it. I can get into it good. I ain't going to do that. The Packers beat the Texans 24-22. The Packers win on a 45-yard field goal. Brandon McManus, who just arrived recently, this is the Packers' first win over a team with a winning record. The Packers' first win over a team with a winning record.
Starting point is 01:03:10 The Packers' first four wins came against teams that have a combined 7-15 record. Their two losses came against teams that combined 8-2 record. The Texans' only previous loss came against the Vikings, who beat the Packers in Week 4. C.J. Stroud had his worst game of his career, throwing only for 86 yards with no touchdowns. Josh Jacobs scored his first career receiving touchdown in week seven after having 211 receptions, over 1,500 yards to start his career without one. Only Thomas Jones had more career receptions
Starting point is 01:03:36 before getting his first career receiving touchdown in NFL history. Stephon Diggs spoke after the game on his beef with Jahir Alexander. I'm never the bigger person i'm not letting it go yeah yeah that's what that's that's what we need that's what we need we need what the hell that was that was a gnat i got gnats in the goddamn room, man. Anyway, we need that. We need that. I like that. So next time the Packers and the Texans meet, we need more quarrels. We need more players going at it.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It makes the game that much more exciting. There was no fight. Just the chirpiness and the talking shit back and forth. And the Packers won. The Packers won. I just think, to me, maybe other people might not like it. I like it. It's exciting.
Starting point is 01:04:28 The Mike Evans, the Marshawn Lattimore type stuff, you know, the Odell Thurman, the Josh Norman type stuff, like, let me tell you, Odell Thurman, Odell Beckham, and the Josh Norman type, like that makes, to me, as a player, it makes me want to watch the game and see how they do. You know? I ain't studying that all. Man, if you got that kind of energy before the game,
Starting point is 01:04:50 I want a good type of energy to have during the game. I ain't got no time to be tussling and going back and forth all that. Okay, we can just talk. Yeah, just talking. You know? It just so happened the Packers came out on a winning end this time. This time. Packers. Jordan Love was 24, this time. This time. Packers.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Jordan Love was 24, 33, 223 touchdowns, 200 sessions. He's turning the ball over to Lombard Radocho. That's concerning for me. He had two this week. Didn't he have three last week? I think he had three last week or something. It is hard. Romeo
Starting point is 01:05:21 Dobbs, 8-94 on 10 targets. They got a great group of young receivers. Josh Jacob, they ran the ball 20 times for 82 yards, but it looked like they only had like 55 total plays. You think they... Nobody really had...
Starting point is 01:05:39 Nobody, I mean, it's an odd game. CJ Stroud was 10 of 21 for 86 yards. Hey, you think they missed Nico Collins, huh? Oh, yeah. Dalton Schultz had one for 28. Stephon Diggs got five for 23. See, they ain't got nobody to stretch the field like Nico, though.
Starting point is 01:05:59 They ain't got nobody to stretch the field. And listen, the Packers did a hell of a job defensively. They did a hell of a job defensively. They did a hell of a job defensively. To even be able to hold C.J. Stroud to just 86 yards and four quarters worth of football, you know, it's commendable. It's commendable, but again, they don't have anybody
Starting point is 01:06:15 that's stressed the field. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I've seen a game, Ocho, with this few plays with both teams. It just seems like both, I mean I don't know if I've seen a game Ocho with this few plays with both teams it just seems like both I mean 10 of 21 and 33 rushing teams that's 54 total plays that counted so let's just say on the high end they had 55 56 the other team had 53 total plays so you talk about 110 total plays between the two teams that's crazy yeah last week well yeah okay so uh yeah the packers five and two but they're trying to keep pace in that division
Starting point is 01:07:01 because everybody's really good in that division oh joe obviously is being led by the lions who have lost one game now the uh minnesota they have one loss the packers have two losses the the bears which were on a bye week they have two losses so this i mean you you got to win in this division you could ill afford to fall behind and especially uh you know they the packers have already lost a division game to minnesota so you don't want them to have too big of obviously the one lost record is one thing but a head-to-head that's something entirely different so uh congratulations to the packers as they win on the last second field goal 24 22 over the houston texans the b Bengals beat the Browns 21-14. Fans booed Deshaun Watson
Starting point is 01:07:47 after he goes down what appears to be an Achilles injury. You can see it through the song and the replay. We got to go with what appears to be a serious Achilles injury.
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Starting point is 01:12:38 The Bengals win 21-14. Jameis, a healthy scratch, comes in as an emergency quarterback because Dorian Thompson, he gets nicked. Jameis was the emergency quarterback. He had to come in. He was 5 of 11 for 67 yards. Dorian Thompson was 11 of 24 for 82 yards. And Deshaun was having a pretty good game. He was 15 of 17 for 128 yards.
Starting point is 01:13:06 But he can't seem to catch the break, Coach O. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough for him. Obviously, I mean, depending on who you are and how you feel about Deshaun Watson, the football player,
Starting point is 01:13:20 the football player, you want to see him do well. You want to see him do well. want to see him do well uh outside of that obviously you know the the rumblings and the uh the the the booing of of him being injured uh yeah i don't i can't get down with it you probably can't get down with that but you have to understand you know we all we all treat things You can't, it's hard to tell people how to react based on things that have happened in the past that have occurred. So it's like, it's tough. It's tough. You know, some people aren't, aren't gonna, aren't gonna forget that.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Not forget it. I get all that, but somebody gets hurt and you applaud that yeah i don't believe in i don't believe i love they have the right they paid their hard-earned money because in the introduction when they he came out they had nick chubb last they booed him they cheered nick chubb i ain't got no problem with that you have the right but when somebody gets injured for you to applaud that hey but you know how people are, huh? Like, when you... Listen, they don't... Man, listen. If they ain't fucking with you, excuse my language,
Starting point is 01:14:31 it don't matter what it is. Hurt, you pass away, they don't care. You playing bad, they give 2-0-0, you know what? They don't care. They don't care. You know how fans are oh man she
Starting point is 01:14:47 boy I mean I can might dislike something or someone but I'm not going to applaud mishap I'm not going to applaud unfortunate somebody getting injured or you know somebody
Starting point is 01:15:03 you know people like that oh. Oh, I'm happy. Huh? You happy? Nah, I don't operate like that. No matter what I think of somebody, I don't wish death on them. Never that. I don't. And I don't wish injury on someone because
Starting point is 01:15:19 like I said, you paid your money. You want to boo the man? Boo the man. But I just, there's never going. You want to boo the man? Boo the man. But there's never going to be a situation, Ocho, where somebody gets injured and I'm going to be happy. But again, when it comes to fans, and you know how fans are, they're very fickle, very, very fickle. Things haven't been going well in Cleveland for them.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Based on the quarterback play throughout the season this year, they probably wanted a change of the quarterback position and just everything coming full circle and him going down. And I think with the frustration from the fans, and that's what we got today. Obviously, the stuff that happened off the field didn't make it any better. Joe Burrow was 15-25, 181, two touchdowns. He got sacked three times.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I mean, they didn't do anything spectacular. I mean, think about it, Ocho. They had 25 rushes for 59 yards. It was the turnovers. They got a 100-yard kickoff return, and they got a short fee. Thompson turned the ball over twice.
Starting point is 01:16:32 But it wasn't like they did anything spectacular. T. Higgins had four for 82. Chase had five for 55. They both called a touchdown. But that was it. If you look at it, 25-25. So again, another 50-plus it, 25, 25. So again, another 50 plus plays, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:49 50 plays. But it's not how many plays. It's making the plays that you have count. And when they got opportunities, Chase made a guy miss, caught a quick pass, made a guy miss, hit the seam, he's in the end zone.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Chase ran a great route, Joe threw a great ball, touchdown. And, you know, like I said, he got the 100-yard kick return to start the game. Yeah. Oh, that first play on the inside, that was a slam route. Double slams, that was T. And then it was Chase that caught the fade on Greg Newsome. You saw he hit the Tyrone Lou
Starting point is 01:17:26 and stepped over? Yeah. Yeah. The Browns got a really good defense, man. I love me some Denzel Ward, boy. I love that boy. That boy, he nice. Yeah, but the offense, though.
Starting point is 01:17:44 It's bad. So who's... Jameis over. Yeah, but the offense though is bad. And so who's James Winston going to be the starter from now on? He might. I mean, it all depends on Dorian
Starting point is 01:17:52 Thompson. Well, Dorian Dorian Thompson is healthy. Remember, James he came in because he wasn't even dressed.
Starting point is 01:18:02 He was the third quarterback. Yeah. So, you know, third quarterback one dress. know third quarterback wasn't dressed no they dressed him let's bet yeah
Starting point is 01:18:11 yeah Deshaun winning I mean Thompson winning after Deshaun but I'm saying they went in the game with two quarterbacks James Winston wasn't dressed today but I'm saying there's a reason why he wasn't Winston wasn't dressed today. But I'm saying, there's a reason why he wasn't dressed, Ocho, because
Starting point is 01:18:29 you put him up, you put a third quarterback up, that means you got to take off his line, but a defensive line, but a wide receiver. So, unless Jameis playing a running now, they don't point a kickoff, a kick kick return. Yep. We can't have him dress who's he is gonna
Starting point is 01:18:45 be the starter or dorian thompson gonna be the starter he thompson got nicked we don't know the significance of the injury so once we find out he might he could be the starter because thompson injury is so bad he might not be able to play. Then you have... Wait, hold on. I just thought about that. I'm tripping. What? So, Dorian Thompson was the second string quarterback? Yes. Yes. What the hell?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. what the hell yeah okay okay okay so there's a possibility if Thompson is nicked really good or bad however you want to look at it he might not be able to play next week and then you I mean you won't have any choice but to put Jameis
Starting point is 01:19:43 because we know Deshaun's not playing. Damn, that's unfortunate, man. It is. It is. And what's Cleveland, what you think, and what could have been. Dang. It's over.
Starting point is 01:20:02 It's over, Ocho. Hey, you, oh my goodness man nevermind I don't want to talk about that cause that's that's nasty bro seeing that thing pop you know when they do it in slow motion and you can see the vibration through the sock
Starting point is 01:20:18 the little ripple I knew exactly what it was damn the Eagles beat the Giants I knew exactly what it was. Damn. The Eagles beat the Giants in the Saquon Barkley revenge game in the season's easiest to see coming revenge game. Giants former running back Saquon Barkley rolled into MetLife Stadium and Eagles green rushed for 176 yards on 17 carries and a dominant 28-3 victory.
Starting point is 01:20:49 His day featured individual runs of 55, 41, and 38 yards. His 176th ranked second in the NFL history for a player against his former team. Cincinnati Bengals' Cedric Benson had 189 against the Bears back in 2009. Barkley's 187 yards from scrimmage alone, while the Giants combined 419 yards total. What I don't get, Ocho, the Giants also pulled Daniel Jones in a loss. We made a change in the fourth quarter when it was 28-3.
Starting point is 01:21:17 We had 100 yards. Just to create a spark, Dave Ball said, Daniel will be the quarterback going forward. Said Jones of the Moves, I was frustrated. Didn't like it, obviously. What I don't get,
Starting point is 01:21:27 Jazz fans, why y'all booing Saquon? Now y'all heard the general manager. Y'all heard John Morrow. They didn't want him. Y'all boo that man. He wanted to stay. He damn near begged you to stay. Boo your general manager.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Boo John Morrow. That's how y'all should be mad at. They chose Daniel Jones. Y'all was happy. And y'all heard it. Yeah. Oh, we gonna let you shop your talents.
Starting point is 01:22:02 You can't tell your girl, I'm gonna let you go hey go on out there and see what's out there for yourself she finds somebody and then you get mad why you get mad
Starting point is 01:22:11 you let it happen you could've said nah baby I got you I'ma hold you down me and you we locked up we in this thing clock lock
Starting point is 01:22:21 I won't let you out y'all mad at Saquon thing. Clock lock. I won't let you out. Y'all mad at Saquon? The man damn near begged to stay. You could tell the man wanted to stay a giant. Yeah. I mean, listen, I would hope the fans know that. I would hope the fans understand
Starting point is 01:22:40 the landscape of the business when it comes to the running back position and the NFL in general. How they don't value the position. Which is why they picked Daniel Jones over Saquon Barkley. You know, even with the great addition and having Malik neighbors, who was awesome, you know, I mean, listen, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I wouldn't let that type of talent walk out the door. I just wouldn't, Especially when the quarterback play is inconsistent. If the quarterback play is inconsistent, who's the one person that can take the pressure
Starting point is 01:23:09 off the goddamn quarterback? You know what? All I gotta do? Hand the ball off to him. And let him do what he do. But you let that walk right out the goddamn door. And then he come back and he haunts you today. And he drop 176 on y'all dome. And y'all booing him.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Y'all saw hard knocks. Y'all saw the hard knocks. And then John Maury gonna say, I sure hope he don't come back. John Maury was the one person that had the ability to overrule the general manager. And he didn't do it. See, what he wanted to do,
Starting point is 01:23:41 he wanted to make it seem like he was so disappointed because he didn't want the fans to be on him. You are the owner. There is not a move that can be made without your blessing. So you let it happen. Giants fans, you got exactly what you deserve. Y'all wanted Danny Crimes. So you got it.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Now look at it it now look at you the man had a nice little stretch parlayed that into a hundred plus million dollar contract boy got that bag boy got that bizzag mmhmm hey y'all paid Daniel Jones $40 million.
Starting point is 01:24:28 If you gave him $30 million, you'd have had plenty enough money to give Saquon here. And you didn't have to do anything because you could have made him play to the fifth year. But y'all exceeded him early. You make Saquon play his all the way out. As a matter of fact, you put him on the franchise. So that's it. So I don't feel bad for you.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I don't. I mean, y'all got something to cheer for. The Yankees going to the World Series. Yeah. Win the first game. It's going to be, I mean, they're going to come quick. Because the last thing you want to be doing is overlapping the NFL.
Starting point is 01:25:16 The first game is Friday. Hey, is they playing? Wait, so they got to travel LA back? The Dodgers got the best record, don't they? Or the Yankees? They starting in LA or they starting in New York? And yeah, they started in LA.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Oh, this is the Fox. This is the Fox Green. The Yankees. So you got New York and you got LA and then you got everything in between. Who you got New York and you got LA and then you got everything in between who you got winning I mean I like the Yankees but I like Shohei I like Mookie but I like Aaron Judge
Starting point is 01:25:56 too though man Aaron Judge Juan Soto what's my what's my buddy? What's my, what's buddy name from our, from the Marlins? Who be hitting home runs too.
Starting point is 01:26:09 He be hitting them like crazy. Oh, Giancarlo. Yeah. He may be smacking them things, boy. Rizzo. They got a,
Starting point is 01:26:18 they got a, they got a nice look. They got a nice look. It's going to be, it's going to be, I mean, if this thing, can you,
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Starting point is 01:27:01 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986,
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