Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Seahawks STUN Rams in COMEBACK WIN + Franchise TAG for George Pickens? + Shannon WARNS Jaxson Dart of SHORT CAREER

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Seattle Seahawks coming back from 16 down to beat the Los Angeles Rams in overtime, the Dallas Cowboys are likely to franchise tag George Pickens this offseason, and Jaxson Dart doesn’t care about teams hit him hard game plan and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 04:50 - Seahawks beat Rams in OT34:37 - Cowboys likely to Franchise Tag George Pickens49:40 - Jaxson Dart’s aggressive style/Hard Knocks56:00 - Giants happy with  Abdul Carter's benching response  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Again, Ocho, wow, wow, wow, wow. Seahawks take down the Rams, and if somebody would have told me that after giving up what they gave up, hold on, let me pull something up right quick, Ocho. They gave up over 500 yards of offense. The opposing team did not turn the ball over, and you still won the game. They possessed the ball, 14 minutes more.

than what you had it. 581 to 415. Zero turnovers and you still lose the game. Yeah. But give the Rams, give the Seahawks credit. They were down by 16, but I thought the turning point of the ball game,

Ocho, was Rashid, that punt return. Because they had, they were just floundering on offense. He gave them that spark. The Rams go three and out. The next thing you know, we got a tie ball game. They go for two and they get it.

They're smart. That's why they always tell you, Ocho, play to the whistle. Nobody Well, I just go pick the ball up, hey, hand it to the officials. Two points. The wildest two point play that I've seen in a very, very long time. But the rank, but the Seahawks win, there are 12 and three

have the inside track for the number one seed in the AFC, excuse me, in the NFC. And remember, in years past, there were two buys. There's only one now. So only one team gets to buy. The number two seed has to play the opening weekend. And so that's where we are right now. But Ocho, this was an outstanding game. Matthew Stafford was dealing.

Pooking the cool was dealing. And I had told, I told Seahawks, I said, look, y'all would be wise to double puka. Because if he singled up, he gave spoon all he wanted. He gave Joe all he wanted. If they didn't double him, that ball was coming. And you see how he plays through contact? This is what Ocho and I is talking about. When you play through contact, you look how he plays through contact.

They pressing, he's moving them out the way like, get out my way. And when he catches the ball, if you think he's just going to go down just because you're there, he's not. He plays through contact. He's a very, very physical receiver, and he's great after the catch.

Ocho, how was Seattle able to win this game? I mean, listen, they were able to win this game in the fourth quarter. There were five possessions with the Ramsunk. They went punt, punt, punt. And then they had three, three, they had, two drives after that stall. They stalled. They really rattled goddamn Sam Dano,

really all goddamn game. The two interceptions, obviously, the two interceptions, the zone, I think it might have been robber. They showed man, they showed man, and number two decided not to go with the slant, and he just stayed there.

They tried to run the clear, yeah, McCullough. Yeah, and then the zone with a detackle, dropped out, yeah. The detackle popped out, That was another interception. But it was those five, those five in concession, those five stall drives that gave the Seahawks a chance to come back.

And then the pump return, the pump return from Rashid, that kind of almost sealed a deal, got them back in momentum, and the momentum shift in the favor of the Seahawks. And even, also, even with those possessions when they were going out, it wasn't like the Seahawks was doing anything with it. It wasn't until that punt return that sparked their team. I mean, the defense got, because remember, Ocho,

they were going up and down the field, up and down the field. They got stuff. Look, this game should have been over. Matthew Stafford, Miss Pook, and Nicole on a double move early in the game. I mean, I missed it. We did. So they should have had probably 21 points in the first quarter. And that's what happens when you leave.

And you don't think about it, don't you know, like, oh, well, we did it. Kick and field go gets you beat. And this is a prime example. And so they cashed those in early. Guess what? They had another touchdown. Ocho, remember they had an illegible man down field, took a touchdown off the board.

Yeah. So although, you know, at that point in time, you're like, okay, we go get it back. But that's seven points. That's an extra four points that you left on the field. Now you make them, now you make them really have to play a different type of a ball game. Because when you up, when you up six nothing

or you up, you know, 13, 7, that's nothing. because the touchdown in Rick. They got a touchdown and guess what? They're in the lead now. But you have to give the Seahawks credit because it was easily, they're down 16 points at home and the Rams are absolutely kicking their ass. And they just kept fighting, kept plugging away.

They had some drop by boy Kobe. Man, he had some huge drops, Ocho. Had some huge drops. But, ma'am, what can you say about Puka? But I thought the other percent played well. I thought Mumford played well. I thought Xavier Smith played well. I thought the guy's filling in for Devonte.

I thought they played well. They ran the ball. 39 carries for a buck 24. Matthew Stafford was not sacked. He didn't turn the ball over. I mean, he played well. He played unbelievable. He's the MVP.

I know they're lost. He's the MVP, Ocho. And I know you look. Yeah, absolutely. Your guy in Buffalo, he's going to get some consideration because when he's on national television, he puts together these herculean efforts. We saw him against him against.

the Patriots. We saw, I forget what game it was, where he had those six touchdowns, three pass and three rushes. And we saw him opening when he played the Baltimore Ravens on opening night. And they're down 15. And he brings them all the way back. So he's had some really, really big games on national television so everybody can see him. But Matthew Stafford, with 40 touchdowns and five interceptions. He's the MVP. A, hey, he's that those are Aaron Rogers numbers in his prime at Green Bay. Those are the type of numbers he's putting up this, this uh this season and the thing about it matthew stafford i don't know how long he's going to continue to play but from now on he need to make sure he missed every training camp he need to me he need to miss

every training camp with a back problem if this is the type of production he's going to give you in season collectively as a wide receiving core the ramp played extremely well pookin the coo they kind of held pookin the cool in checking the first half yeah they held him in checking the first half. I'm not sure what the hell Sean McBade decided to do in the second half, but Young Bull exploded. Oh, Joe, he was cooking in the first quarter, and then he only had one target in the second quarter. So I don't, I don't know if they started doubling him or what, what happened, but they went away from him. But the moment they went back to him, he started cooking all over again. It wasn't until they started doubling him that Matthew Stafford started

going to Smith and Mumfrey, um, um, field. That's when all of a sudden Doug came involved. But every time they single him he kicked everybody's a every every time you know i love the creativity that sean mcbae has with him you know understanding that he's a little different he's six to about two 15 216 so they they put him in different positions they put him in the slot they put him in motion uh they they line him up in to bring him out they line him out to bring him in and a lot of creativity to allow him to get off his spot and sometimes get get get in an advantage where he's not having to deal with bump and run and having to fight through contact but he's he's so strong he really doesn't have he doesn't he doesn't have he can high point the ball he's great in traffic

he's tremendous after the catch he can play through play through contact is what you need to have because when people get physical some people shy away from physicality that's not that's really not to play with him but oh cho sam donald i mean we i i thought because i'm looking at him and i'm said, okay, when you're down 16, you're playing free and all of a sudden you come back. Now all of a sudden, the moment scene, now of a sudden it means something and now you go three and out when you got a chance to win the game in regulation. They missed, the Rams missed the field goal, but 22 and 34, 272 touchdowns. The old Sam Bradford, he would have folded, Ocho.

Yeah. He would have folded. Sam Darnel. Oh, excuse me, Sam Darnel. Sam Darnel. The old Sam Darnel would have folded under these circumstances because like you said, the guy he didn't run with the run through, he pretend like he was going. to grow and he picked them up is the same play that uh alfred picked off tom brady in the

super bowl they run the double slay and he's supposed to go with the first and with number one and he yeah and he just and he comes back and brady hits him in the chest that's the exact same play you're thinking what every time we run this formation they always run he always run with how you label it inside outside one two or two right how you do it they normally run with it they say you know what and he hey fake like he was going to run you know and he hit him right and he hit him right in the chest you know i i wonder i wonder what that's called with number two just he just less than number two go on a slant and he stays there and the mic backer picks it up and and is there is is is there for an interception every single time because the quarterback not going to see that

because they rarely throw it they barely throw it to the inside guy unless that's a pook or unless that's a uh a cooper cut when he was in his prime they rarely throw it to the how are you labeling it some people label it inside out some people able to inside out some people able to inside the end, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just saying, normally the guy that's in the slot, unless it's a poker or one of those guys, they rarely throw it to it, Mocho.

Yeah, you're right. And you know, look, man, first of all, your best receiver is on the outside. Y'all gonna try to get that ball in Jigba. Okay, I got something for y'all. Go ahead. Oh, I got you. And, uh, yeah, hey,

that got, hey, that goddamn zone with a D tackle popping out, but that's another, another tricky one. We just saw that happen with, um, it just happened this past Sunday. I'm trying to think who did that. Oh, the Ravens. I mean, the Ravens did it. That's what Kyle Benoit did. He touch and drop. Oh, yeah, on Joe. Yeah. Yeah. You get that. Because, you know, hey, you see the guy engaged with the offensive lineman, you think he's coming. Yeah. And the next thing you know, he got a little pressure. He don't pop, he didn't pop down in cover. Yep. Right, drops right in

you're throwing lanes. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what to say about Seattle. The defense made, I mean, look, you give a 500 yards. We can't say the defense. They gave a 581 yards, don't you? We can't say their defense because you give up down to 600 yards. Your defense ain't do it.

Yeah. But they made. This is the, when they. When it counted, when it matter most. And this is what I will say. Obviously, I think Seattle has a very good defense, huh? They have a very good defense. But they were playing one of the better offenses than the league tonight.

They were playing to got. damn lost hand of his Rams. The Los Angeles Rams make everybody look like that. Matthew Stafford has made everybody look like that. So in their case, eh, it's tough. Hey, but they did, they did when they need, hey, Sam Donald delivered when he did to deliver, despite being down by 16. This is one of the, this might have been one of the better games. Oh, for sure. We've had some, we, listen, we've had some good ones, but this one, this was nice. talking about you just one nice two 11 and three teams on a Thursday night on a short week yes and to get this kind of offensive performance by both teams say hey it's what this was

this was unbelievable man that dick emmanuelari I think that's how you say his name man yeah yeah number three number number three yeah man you see how he chased puka down oh yeah yeah but see pooh was not a burner oh too that man was from a dead steel yeah if they had If there was a knock on puka, if you want to be, you know, like anal about it, I mean, he's not, he's not fast. He's not a burner. But outside of that, everything else. But if you think about, Ocho, he's 4'5, which is plenty of fast enough. I mean, it's plenty of fast.

But we think about burners and species in NFL, you think 4243. We ain't got but a handful of them, Ocho. We got left them. We got, well, we got RIC at wide receivers. We got RIC, we got Thornton, and we got Worthy. Right. Right, but everybody else, four three after that. Ooh.

Damn, oh, damn, they, every other skill position. Oh, yeah. No, everybody run four three. You got it, you know. Oh, deep, I mean, you know, hold on, I think, well, Wollin was the one that ran 4-2. Yeah, Tyree. Tariq.

He ran, what, 427, 428. 4-2. So they got some, they got some burners. But this was a damn good game. Tip your hat to Sam Darno. Donnell, 22 or 34, 272 touchdowns. He had two interceptions, but you know what he kept plugging away. And you see Cooper's up, chat, this is what Notcho and I talk about.

You see that deep play that he made. You see how I let his body go limp. Yes. You see he didn't try to take another step. You see how his body went limp and he was able to get his feet down. That's what, Ocho and I be talking about. Guys be trying to take that last step. Your body go limp.

Your body. So if your body goes limp, guess what? You can't take another step. Yeah. you got to and it's all about being aware where you are on the field it is being aware where you are on the field and the only way to get yourself in is you got to let your body relax just let it go just let it go because you don't because if you're saying you don't really know where you are don't chance about taking that that that step because you got one down and then you take that long

step and next thing you know you're half your foot's out of bounds when you just could have gone limp and the body you know pause i know y'all's up but i'll keep saying limp limp but that's what we mean Your body, your body goes, I mean, when you, you get hit in the head and you see how boxers, when they get dropped, what does his body do? Yeah. Goes limp. And so that's what we're telling receiver to do. Go limp, don't take that extra step, and then you're in bounds.

This was, um, oh, Joe, what, what do you, what do you think? Where you rank, Puka? Um, right now, you, you got, he got in me in top five. And it's, this is what I hate to when it comes. Hey, this is what I hate when it comes. four or five. Hey, listen, the rankings continuously change year year. It's hard for, you know, last year, you know, you had Jamar Chase.

You had Justin Jefferson, you know, AJ, you had C.D. Lamb. But it's hard for the top players to always consistently be at the top because something always happens. This year, Jeddah in the quarterback situation. Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow missing time. Even though, I mean, even though Chase is still, you know, he's four as far as receiving yards are concerned. something something always goes wrong poop and the cool doubling back and having another great

year who could be no puka has been great since he got into the league and we kept saying yeah let's see another let's see we don't want to rank him too high because it's one year well it's been more than one year and pukua has not let us down he's a top three receiver now I don't care what you want to rank him if you say chase but if you look at puka and his production since he's been in the league, it's hard to say there been better. Wait, hold on. What year is Pooka in? I think Pook was in his third. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's his third.

I think it's his third. Third. Because remember he goes, he goes like 110, 112, like 13, 14, 100 yards. And then he got Nick, you say, but he got, and he came back and ended up going over 1,000 yards. And this year, he's like, what is that, 1600? Yeah, hey, yeah, he paid, he paid J.S. Because J.S.N. was first.

He passed J.S. With 225, yeah. He passed J.S. in the night. And you know what? He missed the game. Yeah, he did. Yes. I think he missed the game. Maybe two. And he's still. Man, oh my goodness. Can you mad?

Could you imagine? Puga's at 15.90. J.S.N. at what? 16. What? J.S.N. had 1514. So he's over 16100. Right. So he's at, uh, so he's at, uh, so he's at 1633. Ooh.

Hey. Hey, could you imagine every time I look at that offense, I look at the way they use JSCN, I look at the way they use Pugna Kua, and I just imagine myself being in an offense like that with that type of creativity,

that type of movement, you know, being in the slot, being like Lord Calvin Shanahan does with his receivers. Hey, listen, I line up two places. I line my black ass up on the left. I line my black ass up on the right. and they say get open. That's it.

You're starting a team right now. You want Puka or J.S.N. Ooh, that's tough. That's tough. Oh, that's tough. I mean, listen, there are other factors that come into that as well. Puka, JSN, what's the offense? They're in the office in right now.

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the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts damn you know what i ain't got no coin to flip that's that's that's a coin flip right down i'm just being honest and and and i would love to hear the chats the chats um choice on who you would pick no they want you to pick because i i'm me me and i love jansen i'm taking puka because i think he's a little bit more physical i think he's a little bit i think he plays a little better through contact now that's not look yeah when you got to make That's not, that's not JSA game, though. That's not JASN game.

I mean, that's what I'm saying. He can. Right. Puka can get open, but his ability to play through contact, his ability to run after catch. Now, JSCN is tremendous after catch. Now, JSCN is a better rock runner. Bayes, JSCN looks like he's a, he's better technically. But I cannot overlook the best.

I'm always, for me, Ocho, I'm always going to take the good big man over the good little man. Okay. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Listen, I'm going to take JSN. I'm going to take JSN simply because of the artwork. Simply because of the artistry. Oh, he's fluid.

Oh, my goodness. Stop and start. Being able to pick. But they, I mean, what they do with Pooka. I mean, they throw the, they throw the smoke screen, bubble screen. They put him in motion. And the thing is that when you put him in motion and plus another thing I like about it, you got it back off.

You got it back off. You see how when they go to run the ball, you see who. their insert to go their lead on get the safety oh yeah and he digging shit out huh but he he's a big boy he's a big boy but it's unbelievable it this it's unbelievable i mean both of those guys are are putting up huge huge huge numbers um yeah oh cho just moments ago poca tweeted can you say i was wrong appreciate you striped for your contribution l-o l-l off the hill i mean think about ocho Now, he just said, I mean, he just did a gesture. I didn't see it.

But I guess he was on Aidan Ross's live stream and Aidan talked him into doing a gesture. And I guess it's deemed anti-Semitic. I didn't see it. So, Chad, I'm the last one to speak on it. But he apologized for that earlier today. You would think after having apologized for doing something that I don't believe he knew what it was. I don't. I don't, I don't, and I could be wrong.

But I don't believe he knew the gesture that he was doing. would be viewed as anti-Semitic or that's how that the Jewish community, that's how they view the gesture. So I'm saying I don't believe he knew that. But to come out after the game and just say, I appreciate you stripes. Pooka, you don't get it, bro. Wait.

Go ahead, Ocho. I mean, the reference and appreciate you stripes was that in reference to the refs? oh okay i guess he said he appreciate them for i guess call i don't know what it was but bro just let it yeah see i mean you see i need better context and perspective i don't want to just jump the conclusion of what that actually meant i appreciate you strike for your contribution i get because he's like you know remember he said ocho these guys have regular jobs and they want to get on tv also so sometimes they throw flags hey look you can see me

I'm on TV, Pooka, come on, bro. Okay. Pooka, you're too good. You don't have to do all that. You don't. Okay. You would have thought, you would have thought after the gesture. Have they find, did they find him?

Oh, this just happened yesterday, okay. Hey, and the funny thing about it, too, when you think about it, I mean, there were no flags that were thrown that really, um, yeah, there was really, really no passing affairs. I mean, you got the one on JSC, which was really was a passing affairs. Oh, that was a passing. You don't need to twist him. You're there.

Ocho, he's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He played it. You knew what it was running for the simple fact. Basically, he walked off the line. So you know either it's a double move, which you got help over the top or it's to slant. Yeah.

You played it perfect. There is no reason for you. That means you're unsure. You're not trusting what you saw on tape. Because if you're trusting what you saw on tape, you wouldn't feel the need to grab his waist. because you're like, well, I got to do this just in case it's out and up.

But you didn't have to, bro. You got it played perfect. Yeah. Look, if I could talk to Puga, I'm like Pooka, you don't have to do this, bro. Just go play. Your game, speak loud. It speaks really, really loud, bro.

You don't have to do this. Don't get to that, look, no. Because here's the thing, you know, these ruffs are human. Now, all of a sudden, now, you start getting held and they don't get the call. You wonder why.

there's a human element people like well do you suppose that no you can't you that those refs are humans yeah some that's you understand why some NBA players get calls and some don't sometimes some get teed up quick baseball you keep arguing and so okay that ball might be right down the plate ball you don't you look bro Just for me, just, just take it down a notchbook. Everybody knows who you are. You don't have to garner any more attention by, you know, saying outlandish thing.

I'm gonna concede the fact, Ocho, that when he was on that stream, he did not realize what he was doing would be viewed as derogatory or whatever the case may be. I didn't see it, chat, but I'm saying, I didn't see it, because I didn't see it, the mere fact that he apologized, let me know.

know that he somebody informed him that he had done something wrong or what he did with you have wrong go ahead oh chole hold on he's apologizing because they had to be backlash for whatever it was i mean no one apologizes unless there's backlash and and and you're informed from those around you know those who are in position you know that help you in what you're doing hey listen this is something that you did on stream you know certain people aren't taking it well you need to come out and apologize so they writes them up for you you know how they do it they write them up for you that's not in your words and you and you post it and hit sin yeah i like look i like i've been around him a little bit you know he was in uh i coached the all-star game uh in indy one year NBA

all-star game and i like puka i love his game i love his game i love the physicality in which he plays with i don't know how long you can play that style ocho when you get that many targets and you think about all the bubble screens and all the stuff, the inserts that he runs, you see what happened to, you actually think about, Ocho, when you really go back and think about it, you know Cooper Cup only had one 1,000-yard season. It was that historic season.

Let that sink in. Ocho, let that sink in. And after he had that season, what happened, Ocho? He broke down. So he's catching a lot of stuff that's the physicality. Now, he's a little bigger than cool. But Cup ain't no small guy. People to realize Cooper Cup like six three.

Man, Cooper Cup told it. Yes. See, I think people think they think Julian Edelman, they think Amandola, they think, they think Brandon Stokely, they think West Welker. No. Yeah, now them boys told that. The RAM slot receivers are big, big men.

I mean, six two, six three, two, ten, two fifteen, two twenty. And you have to be that size because you're gonna take a lot of collisions. Hold on, let me see, Pooka has 16 targets. He caught 12-1-225. So you know, Ocho, when you catch that many passes and the amount of passes that he catch behind the line of scrimmage. So, you know, a lot of time, D. Lyman hitting you from the back,

LB's hitting you from the side, safety's coming downhill. But, uh, look, I know everybody's going to say, man, that two-point conversion. that's why you play snap the whistle right that's why you hey the Seattle I mean it's like it was like the Rams didn't realize it they thought it was just tipped it's like it was incomplete they didn't realize it was a backwards pass yeah I didn't I didn't I didn't realize it was either I didn't I didn't yeah everybody on the field stop so when everybody on the field stop I thought I thought yes but that but that's what remember Ocho it's like okay the ball and you see guys all the time scrambling for the ball uh sometimes like well that

was a forward pass well i'm gonna make sure with the forward pass i'm gonna pick it up me head the other way because if it wasn't a forward pass it's about to be a touchdown or it's about to be our ball no one or the other and the officials all they did was this wasn't no whistleblow ain't no whistleblow it ain't so funny the officials was on top of it and the officials don't even let you know it's a live ball they just sit there staring just waiting just wait just I can't tell you, you might want to see, I know I shouldn't have listened to you, Ocho.

Man, and you had a man, he had 91 yards last week. Guess how many past did he catch Ocho? How many of them? You, you'd bull a job. Look, what you call him? Puka got a touchdown.

Kyra Williams has 70 yards, what else? The only one we missed was that, I mean, I'd have felt better if he'd have 10 yards, 15 yards. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. That is not that bad because everything else I told you to go. I mean, it was a green light. Now, you miss one. That ain't that bad because we don't get no money.

At all. Damn. And we don't get nothing. But look, I'm anxious to hear what Sean McVeigh said. Because maybe Sean McVeigh said, well, we heard the whistleblower. Well, if the whistleblow, it doesn't matter if it was a backwards pass. The ball's dead.

Whistle blows means plays over. Over, yeah. Anything that happens after that is null. It's null and void. So it's going to be interesting to hear. I'll be interesting to hear a chat. I don't know if y'all watch the press conference

and listen to what the press conference had to say. Ocho, did you see A.J. Barner's route, that seven route that he caught, the touchdown. No, you're talking about the post corner post. No, the corner post. Oh, you know, post. That's the route that Travis Kelsey was supposed to run against Derwin James.

You know why? Because Travis Kelsey does sometimes run a far cross. So now you sell it. So you're going up like this and then you look like you're going on the far cross. Guess what he's going to do? He's going to try to undercut you. And in the process of undercutting it, now you bend it back to the seven. Back to the corner, yeah.

Mm-hmm. That was a nice little rock. A great route. Hey, I thought he were going to drop it the way he had the reason for that guy. Yeah, well, I thought he overshoddy. I definitely thought he overshot it. But, hey, I ran a seven just like that against San Diego

on a boot. Yeah. Ran that thing, Ocho. I hit him like, there's a three steps to the post. I looked. I said, oh, bro, you'd have picked that off if I was going to the post. But unfortunately for you, I'm going to the seven. You went back, you went back out?

Yeah, I'm bad. Hold on, hold on. John, John rode left. No, it was a way back. it was Jake Plummer. Oh, so Jake, I mean, yeah, we read the boot. So I start like I'm running, just like with Barner ran, but instead of, okay, okay, okay, okay.

And went that way, I think that way went this way. Okay, okay, okay. I say, yeah, I say it sucks for you, bro. You stole? For the third time. Okay, okay, okay, all right. But look here, I know the Rams lost tonight. I don't know who wants to see them.

Even though they lost, I still think. I think if they play again, they'll beat them. Yeah, probably. Well, you know what? I don't know. The game is close because you got to realize I think the Rams kicked the field goal to beat them in, it's going to be a close game. Oh, chose the division rival.

They know each other. Yeah. I know you, you know me. You know me. Seattle's probably saying, hold on, guys. If we don't turn them all over. three times. We had three turnover. Remember Cooper Cup fumble? And they

could have got three points, three points or maybe even a touchdown out of that. Out of that. Yep. So Seattle's thinking, bro, we take care of the ball. Hey, we good. If I'm the Rams, they're like, they're looking at the opportunities that were squandered, especially early.

He overshoot Cooper. I'm excuse me, he overshoots Puka. Lyman comes in and he's blocking down the field. Takes a touchdown off the board. You end up having to sell it for three. They go for them on fourth out and it's fourth and an inch

and they don't get it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. This was a great game. This was a great game. Very, very good game. Ocho, what you've been eating? They say you got food in your teeth. Yeah.

Me? Let me see. Hold on. I just had Waffle House. They said bottom right. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, see, that's why I love my chat, boy, my chat. I show, hey, I show dear, boy.

Hey, that's what I like. That's what I like by my people, boy. Hey, my people are going to let you know, huh? Do you hear me? Yeah, people are people going to let you know. They ain't they going to have you looking crazy, man. Hey, Chad, I appreciate y'all, man. That's, like, well, I'm about, I'm almost teared up, huh?

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believe the team will more than likely franchise tag George Pickens. Machado said, if I had to predict a day, Pickens will end up getting the franchise tag. He obviously won't like that idea. I just have my doubts about Jerry being able to get a deal done with David Mugoletta, Moologeta, excuse me, David Moologeta, after how ugly things got with Michael Parsons.

Jones could prove me wrong, but the tag is more likely at this point. Either way, I don't see a scenario where Pickens is playing anywhere but Dallas next season. Pickens is having his best season, yet 81 catches 1,200 and 1212 yards, eight touchdown in its contract year.

Ocho, if Jerry Jones franchise tags, George Pickens, do you believe it gets ugly? Now, Moologetta has said, one contract negotiation does not impact another contract negotiation. What are your thoughts on this? If you franchise George Pickens, understanding that he's had the season he's had, knowing that it's his opportunity to get a payday somewhere else,

and then you don't see fit or want to pay him, but understand his value, which is why you're tagging him, and you're tagging him because basically all you're telling me is you're doing two things. If you're tagging him to buy yourself more time to get a deal done before the season starts or you're tagging him

because you don't trust him and you don't trust in giving him that long-term money. That's it. It's only two things. Either I'm waiting to buy myself more time to work out a deal. You know, we got to take care of that.

We got to take care of some other things. We're going to get to you or you know what? You're good for us, but you only did it one year. Let's see if you could do it another. No, we're not playing that. that we're not playing that we're not we not we I don't want to ask this that's why I said

that's what that's the first thing I said let him have a good year let him go to where else and get his money I can't do that Ocho nobody else he's going to have anywhere else he wouldn't have to deal with this he wouldn't have to deal with this it's a no-brainer no brainer I don't like it I don't like it I mean George Picking could have made it real easy Ocho. He's got to made it real easy. If you're in a contract year

Ocho, what is Ocho in a contract year what is Ocho going to do? Bill, his absolute best behavior. His absolute best behavior. To mean that 9 o'clock, Ocho is sitting in his chair at 855.

The bus leaves at 3.30, Ocho on the bus at 320. Ocho ain't getting no passes. Ocho still busting his ass. I'm not going to give y'all any reason to tell me this is why y'all can't give me no money you know also they look when you go to the combine they look for reasons why they shouldn't draft you graph you they look at for reason why they shouldn't give you money the only people that they're looking at that you don't

have to give them a good damn reason to give you money is the damn quarterback that is the only position everybody else have to prove beyond at the quarterback out of out of doubt about a doubt Well, hey, he looks promising. Let's drop 50 on him. Running back. Man. Well, you know, you got mileage on your body. Well, you know I got the mileage here, right?

Well, I received, well, you know, you kind of, well, you know, I'm playing an injury because of you, see, they don't look at I'm playing injured. I'm taking these injections to get out there on the field and help you win. Oh, they're talking about where your injury is prone. Well, I'd have been back a lot soon. I wouldn't have been a limpid as long had I slapped my ass down and took two weeks to heal as opposed to trying to play through this issue.

I've never heard a doctor say, and I've had some, so you know what, just continue what you do and you'll get healthy. They normally tell you to sit your ass down and rest. Yeah, that's the only way to get healthy. So I'm trying to figure out how going out there on the field.

Look, you and I both knew George Pickens had immense talent. The question that I was like, Oh, you cost to yourself so much money. If you just, he realized, I mean, dude, he likes six, three, two, 10, 215. Tremendous, physical, great after the catch. Sometimes he, sometimes he drifts. Sometimes he seems uninterested. And you just can't be, you just can't be that way in a contract year.

Yeah. Well, listen, if you don't like him, you don't like what you see from him, let him go. No, I'm a hold on to it. Let him hit the open mark. One more year. I got a third round pink tie. For what? For what?

For what? I mean, why was you a hold on to him? Yeah. Yeah, just because you understand how good he is and you understand his goddamn value. You should have thought about that when y'all had free agency, when y'all had what? What did I tell you the first thing they should have done, Ocho?

Do away with what tag? Franchise tag. Howdy how the hell is that free agency? If you interfere with my ability to go get fair market value. I mean I told you I should have been director man there man I'm gonna let that go they want they want somebody to steer that ship I bet you I get airplay what they won't I bet that yeah no more franchise tag oh that should have been number one let alone I got let me finish now no franchise tag health insurance benefits

lifetime at least after five years no like you can't oh Joe you can't give a guy to please one year lifetime benefits now come on okay you play more than three years lifetime benefits okay okay and I don't know what my third would be but those the those those those top two

even if you had even if you took the guys and say look you need to put $10,000 $15,000 a year you played three You play, you become a vested player after the third year. Yeah. You're going to get lifetime benefits.

Mm-hmm. That's how it should be. Oh, Cho, if you play three years, let's just say for the sake of argument, the average career is about 2.5 years. I don't know how to get to 2.5, but let's just say 2.5. The average NFL player starts his career at 22, 23. So at 26 years of age. So now from 26 to 31, you get free medical.

Mm-hmm. Bro, you got, for the most part, you got at least. least 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years to live. Hold on, and can I say something real quick on? And the issues and the problems do not happen that goddamn early once you're done playing. Thank you. What we talk about?

It's like a car in this warranty. The warranty runs out. Then officer you start having problems. God damn well. Ain't nothing going to go wrong with the car until the warranty is done. Come on now. I would be, I would, and that's how it is. As soon as the car car's under warranty,

no nothing go wrong. As soon as that thing hit 50,000, 100,000, 100,000 and one mile. Here go. You sit in, you come out in the garage, the windshield wipers going, the hazard lights on. What the hell happened? I got Christine in my garage. But I would.

I don't know if they'll go three years or two, but I think somewhere between five and seven years, if you say if you can make it five to seven years, you'll get lifetime health benefits. benefits that got to be that's got to be a thing oh joe it's got to be yeah yeah because five years oh joe if i'm done it if i'm done it if i'm done it if i'm done it 26 i get health insurance till i'm 31 you even had no goddamn problems at 31 people don't now once you hit them 40s you hit them that 45 and and you know that wearing tear

started start uh start uh start the creep up on you so uh look i i i just think the thing is look i think right now i agree with john machado i think they're looking towards a friend unless they can get something done but here's the thing ocho he's going to want more than cd lamb because you say cd did that deal two years ago how y'all going to hold me up but i got to push the market hey listen i i just i just don't like the nature of the business uh i understand jerry you understand uh the dallas cowboys fans also understand how valuable george pickings is you you saw it all season long on what he's able to do what he was able to do when cd lamb was out what he's been able to do once cd lamb came back um i think just to keep just to keep things fair and

clean for that team allow cd lamb to go back to being the number one uh um just it just allow him to have his own team um allow him to have his own team i think jerry should should grant him that grace the same way he granted mika that grace to let mika go somewhere else he should do the same thing for George Pickens. DAC is going to be just fine with C.D. Lamb as is number one. And there are very many, many, many reliable number twos that are out there. Many reliable number twos. There's no need to keep two ones on your team and pitch George Picking off or piss off

David Mulageta. It just makes no sense to me. To me, it's just bad business. What year did the Rams play the Patriots in the Super Bowl? 2019? because he didn't, he didn't plan to Super Bowl because he tore his knee. Who?

Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup. Cool a cup. Okay. So. Yeah. Cooper Cup has in, he has two 1,000 yards seasons though, Joe. In 2019, he had 1161 on 19.

for receptions and then in 2020 he had 94 receptions for 974 and then he went crazy 145 uh 1947 16 touchdowns when he won the triple crown on a hundred and ninety one target god damn hell i see why bro oh joe he had he had 134 targets 124 191 98 95 100 I mean, even his first year, Ocho, he had 95 targets. Okay, 2018 was when he ended up hurting his knee. He had 55 targets in eight games. So that's on pace to be another 100 plus target. Hey, I wonder what my numbers would look like with 145 targets, huh?

Man, I don't want to, I don't even want to, I don't know, Ocho, I try not to think about, I really don't know, Ocho, I really don't. but look first of all I wasn't going to get 145 targets because I had that Hall of Fame running back in the back field so you're not going to get that kind of

targets so I just accepted the fact hey if I can get if I felt if I basically went with TD had in my back field if I can get 65 70 catches I had a good season you good okay I got you I got you understand how many care

the guy got to get to get 2,000 yards to get 1,700 yards I absolutely understand it. I absolutely understand it. I mean, you had Corey Dillon, you had rest of soul Rudy Johnson in your back field. You know. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, that's crazy. 145 catches. 145 on a 191 targets. 191 targets? My goodness.

There's a bunch of targets, Ocho. But look, they got some decisions to make. Um, they're going to redo that. They're going to redo that. Dak is almost $80 million against the cap. They're going to bring that number way down. They're probably good.

They're more than likely. I'm saying there's 95% chance. They're going to move on from Trayvon Diggs. So he's going to have dead. It's going to be dead cap money. Maybe so maybe they try to trade him, but you still going to have some, you know,

some dead cap money on your thing. What are they going to do with all three of those defense? defensive tackles, that's, you know, you got $20 plus million in 3D tackles. Right. Well, I know Trayvon Day's thing about coming down to Cincinnati. You think so? Yeah, I talk to him. I talk to him.

He's going to try to come on down in and help revamp and improve that defense. One year removed from being able to get back healthy, the fact that he, he says he's healthy now, but he'll be even that much more healthier next year once he's a bang of one of those stripes. I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk to Jeffrey Simmons. I'm going to see what Jeff. You have to give up something to get Simmons, and I'm not so sure they want him to,

I'm not so sure they plan to let him go. Listen, we're going to give them something they can't resist. We're going to give them something they can't resist. I don't know what that is, but we're going to get Jeffrey Simmons too. And right now, I think outside of Trayvon Diggs and Jeffrey Simmons, we will continue to build in the draft defensively. Offensively as well, we need to get maybe another guard. Maybe another guard.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's my plan if I would GM. Yeah. But it's going to be interesting to see how this thing plays out with Jerry and what are you going to do. I just know the first order of business is to get DAC. They think the world of DAC, they believe they have the quarterback that can get them where they need to be.

So the first order of business is to get that cap, that $80 million cap hit to get that down. Now the cap is going to go up, and so you're going to have a little bit more. How much is it going up? Is it going up $5 million, $10 million, $15 million? We don't know. But the first order of business is to get that cap number down to probably the first year. If we can get it down to, say, $10, $15 million.

Yes. Big, big old signing bonus. Big old signing bonus. Yes, Chad, I know. I corrected myself. Cooper Cup and it's eight, nine, I think this is night season, has two, 1,000-yard season. In 2018, he tore his knee. He came back, 2019, had 1100 yards.

And then it was that historic season in 2020, if I'm not mistaken, where he had the 1945, he came up 22 yards, 23 yards short of breaking Calvin Johnson's 1967. But he had an unbelievable season. Ocho, as captured by hard knocks, Darts aggressive style also shapes the approach of defense takes toward him. Dan Quinn, Joe Witt,

encouraged Washington players to treat DART like a running back. and hit him as much as possible. Dart was asked if that bothers him, he replied. No, absolutely not. I mean, Kirby Smart said the exact same thing every time that he played against me. So did Nick Saban.

So did every coach that I played in college. So this is nothing new. Just try to go out there and play smart and be available for your team. Well, clearly you haven't done that. I mean, it just gets me excited. I mean, I'm just a competitor. You want to go out there and compete

and obviously they're acknowledging respect in a way too. So I appreciate that. You want to go out there, play really good for your team. And I think any time that there's a team, they're game planning, and they think definitely gives respect to a player. I think it's for a reason.

Bro. They're saying they're trying to break you. You're not a running back. Plus, how long are the college season? Let's just say for the sake of argument, because he's never been to the SEC championship. So let's just say 13 games. You do realize you play four extra regular season game

and probably two pre-said you go play two prison games. So that's six longer games. I promise you, the guys in the NFL hit harder. So, I mean, look, you can be braggadocious and say that's a sign of respect, but you say, okay, play smart, but are you playing smart? Now, it's been reported that you've been evaluated five times for concussions in 14 games. Let that sink in for a second.

Five times in his rookie season in 14 games. Ocho, do you think at any point in time the remainder of his career he'll ever be evaluated for a concussion again? Because I'd say it's 100%. Of course. Absolutely. Absolutely. But there's something about him. Something about but you don't want to take that edge and competitive spirit away from him.

The fact that he is like this, it'll take it away from him. It's going to be a while. yeah it's going to be a while it's going to be a while before he changes it's going to be something drastic is going to have to happen for him to understand how dangerous this game is especially for the quarterback position and he's playing it like he's back in college he's playing like he's he's playing high school ball so it's going to take something drastic for for you to have had to have had the concussions that you've had to have missed time and and still think I know it's a game I know it's a game but to still think it's a game you know it's a game you know

as far as your health and concern and being available for your team, he doesn't get it just yet. He said, Ocho, it's out of respect. No, they said that anybody had written the ball. If you were a receiver, man, hit Ocho.

They're just saying, they're saying hit you because you don't have the protection as a runner with the football that you have inside the pocket. Yeah. Yeah. Look how big cam was. Oh, hey, listen.

and they because he was so big they weren't really throwing the flags because of besides they used it against him they use it against him all I'm saying is this you're not going to produce so if your quarter if your coach calling runs and you're not going to protect yourself I'm on the opposing team why should I protect you yeah that's right I'm trying to split your dome too

if they think that little about you I think even less I mean, they can pick and choose to be able to use him because he is a dual threat. He is very, very good with his legs. He just has to be smart about it. The more reckless he is, then the less they can take advantage of his legs with certain play calling.

So the onus on that becomes part of the coach's job as well. So if the coaches put him in harm's way, they letting us know and letting him know, you know, we don't really care about you. Jack and Dart was evaluated. concussion in the fourth quarter in the Sunday game against the commanders. That is the fifth time in 10 games. So 50% of the games he's played, chat, dating back to the preseason,

he's been checked for a concussion. 50%. Dang. How many concussions you had, huh? You can't count? Probably. 14 years 91

1 96 98 well God damn 5 okay that's not bad

I mean 14 14 year career I mean only 5 that's not bad at all That's not bad That I got diagnosed with Now how many times did I have my bell wrong That's a whole different argument That's a whole different That's a whole different question

Because we all the guy And seeing stars You know, oh damn Well he got me with that one Yeah I better not do that again But as a quarterback Bro you're not used to taking that kind of hits You're not

Not at this level not not grown man oh them people got they bought them people got families they got bills to pay what you what you're talking about man listen he'll understand he'll get it i sure hope so because he's uh he's on to watch like you said he may hey they seem they made the right decision he seems like he's the right guy for that market they love him the fans oh yeah have embraced him and scat and scat pack they're great perfect bro if you think you think you're you're going to run around in this league and have a long career, you're not. You're not.

You're not. Twice this season, Abdul Carter has been benched for start of the game for disciplinary reasons, but the Giants say they're seeing Carter respond the right way. Giants DC Charlie Bullen said his response quite honestly has been incredible both of those moments. I mean, he's taking ownership publicly in the building with his teammates and coaches. And then honestly, just in terms of like pattern of behavior, he's doing more. He's watching more film. He's coming in earlier. He's staying later. So the response is what I focus on. Everybody makes a mistake. Everybody needs to learn the NFL process and which he's

learning right now. But his response to those moments has been awesome. He's been he's been pro like. And that's all you're asking of a young player to do is become a pro and grow in their name and he has so i like that too what joe i like that listen learning for your mistakes learning for your mistakes you know change behavior means you're really sorry yep continuously continuously repeating the same thing that we've already told you not to do okay you really don't care you really you really don't care and the opportunities you will get they will be short now you you you get it you extended grace because you're an early correct you're you're an early pick so you get a little bit more grace

and everybody leashed ain't as long as yours correct again but you take it you take hey listen you keep taking advantage of it they will show you you're not bigger than the program I don't care where you picked you you're right you're right and you know Ocho some some guys you're like man bro you should get it you're the second pick in the draft

no you're third pick in the draft yada yada yada but some guys mature sooner than others if you got kids you understand that some kids get it right away and some kids you have to repeat yourself. You just hope that before it's too late, they get it. And you just hope

it's, you know, he's learning that, bro, this ain't Penn State, bro. They're not going to let you get away with that. Now, you LT, you JJ Watt, you Aaron Donald. Different ball game. But you're not that yet.

Different ball game. So you're not going to have that kind of lease. You're not going to have that kind of to lead that looks like okay and i don't know why you want that you want to show your teammates you want to show your teammates that you can be accounted that you can be counted on yeah your whole thing is to try to get that seal on your chest as fast as you possibly can that means your teammates respect you and the coaches trust you but like you said oh cho he's he's a young player he came in a lot of expectations uh this season has not gone the way he liked

he hadn't had the season that he had hoped you know missed a couple of starts of the game but like you said if he's learning from his mistakes change behavior is the greatest apology so you apologize to the coaches and your teammates and you let yourself down

but if you change that pattern of behavior are you there on time and his coaches are safe he's coming in earlier he's staying later but I'm just trying to say I just never understood that Ocho what you got another job you got to get to? I'm trying to, why you trying to get out of that so quick, Ocho? You got one job. Well, you know how

it. Yeah, you know how it is. Man, you know, when you're young, man, you know, get the work, do your thing. You know, you don't watch anything outside of the film you have to with your, excuse me, with your team. You know, them young boy, them young boy, be trying to get up out of there and explore the city, man. Yeah.

Oh, Joe, I ain't have nothing to do. Right. No. What I had to do? So, you think you ain't, you think you We ain't had nothing to do, hell. My black ass stayed in the stadium in my first two years. I'm like, you know, I had that, hey, I had that pool table, ping pong. I had a PlayStation, had the Xbox.

I was straight. I had cable. It's about, hey, got by, buy a place, rent a place. Man, nigga, please. Oh, my dad. I mean, uh, please, for what? And everything, everything that all the, hey, listen, all the amenities, all the amenities you telling me to go waste money on is right here.

where I work. Come on, man. Stop playing. Go home and do what? Watch Jeopardy. I ain't know where to go. I mean, because for the first month,

I'll stay with Mel, Bratton, and then I stay with Bea Hump. Wait, Melvin Bratton University of Miami, Melvin, that was with me in Denver. Yes.

And I know Mel, man. Okay, okay, I ain't know that. Okay. Bobby Humphrey, B. Humph, I stay, stay, hey, my place wasn't going to be ready till like the first of October. Obviously, we don't broke cab on show.

I ain't got no place to stay. Yeah, I said, man, damn. Right. It's like, hey, man, a little sharp, where, you, where you, where you go with? Where you stay? Man, my place won't be ready till, till October. Right.

I can't say, I got it for two weeks. My mom not coming the first two weeks. Hey, yeah. Humpsey, well, my girl ain't coming till such or such. I got him after that. Rick and Nancy, say, I take it. So. God damn, huh?

They were, they, Hey, they're passing me off. They'll pass you right. All the thing. Let me take. Ocho, so we are, I'm staying with a, I'm staying with Brad, with a fat cat. Man, we come in one night. Hey, man, come on, you're going to be the designated driver.

I said, oh, man, Lord, have mercy. I said, I would call them people every day. Y'all sure my place can't be ready before then. I'm tired of drive. Ocho, we come in 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock at night. Man, let's skew. They jump on the grill. At 11th night?

Thank you. You see what to look on your face? Hold on. Who grill that time? Thank you. Thank you. They were drunk. Let's just say we grilled.

And it wasn't the 4th of July. I say, man, I say, man, I say, man, Lord have first. I say, boy, I know. Hold on, think about this. If you get home 11, 12 at night and you got to get on the grill, that's a tedious long process.

It ain't like you throwing something in the microwave. Man, you don't, hey, look here, man, we, look, they had some, they had, I guess it seemed like a great idea at the time. Right, right, right.

Oh, I didn't mean, that mean y'all ain't had practicing next morning. Yeah, we had practice the next morning. Man, I'm driving. I got to drive. man y'all tripping boy y'all tripping I said man look here that what that's what I knew he was like hey he come in I'll come in I'll go straight to my room I don't see fat cat till in the morning I ain't come out hey as a what you I said man stop here dairy queen stop at

McDonald's stop I get my food that's it I go in my room, I'm here for the night. Well, you was a rookie then, huh? Okay. Oh, so that mean, rookie, you ain't had no girl like that? No. Nah, I didn't get, I didn't get my, I didn't get, once I got my place, you know. Right.

I ain't bringing the name up, but I'm just saying she came out. Oh, you're talking about Tasha? No way. There you ask, look at all that she's talking about, he, he, he's talking about, he, he said, you're asking her to brag out, Ojo. Who you talking about cookie? man but that was that bad them some good old times man i you know what and i was like man and that's that's kind of where i got it from because the guys that showed me so much love and you know brad and hump and rick and a teal and then you know watching at ward and dennis smith

i don't know why the guys took such a liking to me ocho but all the all the vet guys they really helped me out and i watch i at ward i watch i watch i denis smith or watch i watch i how they moved. I'm like, okay. I was never a go-out type of guy, so, you know, hey, to each their own, you know, guys want to go, I ain't got no problem with that. You'll do your thing, but that ain't, that ain't me.

Right, right. They're like, man, you ain't got no lie. You don't want to do anything? I said, yeah, I want to play football. I want to play football for a long time. That's what I want to do. That's it. That's what I want to do.

I see Mary did not send me way up here to play one year. And she damn sure didn't see me out here to go to no club, and try to, nah. Yeah, hey, listen, now, you got to live a little bit now. Listen, I understand you got structure. I understand you got discipline. You were raised a little bit different. But, I mean, see, you could, if you was my teammate, if you was my teammate, yeah, we would

have been out. We would have went out. You know, I don't even club. For someone like myself that doesn't drink and doesn't club at all, even I went out once a month. Oh, I mean, once I got, probably like my, once I kind of got situated, I was playing a little bit more I started going out probably like okay okay in the 91 like 92 and then really like really I started like kind of like 93 I would go out once every other month but once burns got

there then I really had somebody I really I felt like I could jail with yeah yeah yeah yeah but they had a couple of clubs they had a club called basins up they had a club called fish dance they had one called jimmies whoa whoa whoa whoa you said that fish dance what that mean that was the name of the club. I know, but you said fish dance. So it's like, is that like a dog family? You know, it's like a club, you know, dancing music. And you know, and by that time, you know when I went out at the

show, you know how to S.L. Pull it right up to the thing. Hit that top. Okay. Oh, you had to convert them. Yeah. Right up front. Okay.

Okay. And you wanted to see you too. Yeah, you got, you got to see. You got to see on the shop, huh? And you know, hey. And bad there. I had some more cowboy boots. I had some more, oh, yeah.

Wait, you had the cowboy's? Yeah, it covers. I ain't well too much. I still got it, but you may have some still got them. Hold on you, you had like the belt buckle and all? No, I had no belt buckle with you. Okay. And you took, you tuck your shirt in?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I like that. You see I kneel over dodging them bullets in on the Matrix. That's how that top was going back. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like that.

I like that you know I did I was like okay they don't need to see this they all need to see this right right yeah I just pop out of air blue moon man that's how I was but I ain't never been no I ain't never been no go-out type of person that ain't me nah same same hey oh matter of you know I didn't I didn't been in Miami all my life I didn't be in my life my mind me all my life I have yet to experience club live you know I is you always you know about club live you always hear the stories about club live and how much I'm You know, the service and the tables and just it's not about what it costs to be in there. It's just the fact that that environment, you know, you know, though, it's just, it's just not me, on? The music too loud. And then when people, when people are drinking, they like, they like, they like to talk. Yeah, all up in your face. And they like, yeah, all in your face and they'll tell you three things.

They'd be holding three different conversations and you don't, and you lost and don't know what the hell they talk about. Then they step on your shoes, huh? People step with your shoes. They always bumping you and like, no, man. I think, oh, Cho, I'm thinking in 30 plus years, I think I've gone out in Atlanta twice when it wasn't a Super Bowl. Atlanta.

Now, when the Super Bowl came to town. Right. You was out, huh? Like a scout of the new rock. Hey. Hey, well, I've been, I've been Atlanta, I've been Atlanta, one, two, three. Now, five, I'm five times now. Obviously, two would have played the Falcons.

The other three were for work, and Super Bowl is one of them. And every time I go, the only, I've never been to the club, obviously. Cigar Bar. I go to Cam Newton's Cigar Bar. When his cigar bar open, I mean, they're from open to close. Oh, that's a, oh, he's got the food. The food is crazy. It's called, it's called Fellowship.

Yeah, it's called Fellowship. Oh, man, I don't move. I mean. The whole day. Yeah, I've just never been. I've always just been a homebody Mary Porter wasn't playing that

You know, hey, play football games She was home by herself I'm like, man, I'm going home Man, sure I'm good, bro I'll see y'all on I see y'all on Monday Yeah Hey but see you know what you gotta do now right

See, every blue moon This is what I do This is me What we do? What are we doing? What are we doing? Every blue moon like I like my presence to be felt because you don't see me often I live here in Miami

but you don't see my face often on the show you catch me in the city at my grandma house you know everybody in the world when my grandma stayed out there in the 40s now every blue moon on I want to put that shit on though you know hey

I get dressed with the best of a monk you hear me yeah so every blue moon I got to go somewhere let me put let me put it Let me put some clothes on. Just, like, feel good about myself because, Unk, have you noticed I didn't wore the same, I don't wore the same thing the past five shows?

It's the best part about it. I'll be in shorts. Man, they're talking about, man, you and Ocho need to be in the same room. That means, I got to dress up. I can't have one of those planks, yeah, yeah, yeah. Legs ashy. Hey, yeah, hey, man. Hey, oh, man, I'm, I mean, I'm,

man, people should have me, man. Every blue more, uh, hey, you, Hey, you, um, every blue moon, you need to pop out, man. Just put, put some clothes on like, you got a step. Like, honestly, can I tell you something? Like, not on no, no cocky, no arrogant, errant stuff. Like, I'm probably top five dress human beings on earth when I really want to put clothes on. Top five.

In the world, Craig. I believe you. In the world. I'm just being honest. I'm just not, I'm not a fashion person. But when it's time for fashion, I have an eye for it. Yeah, I mean, you know. Yeah, no.

I mean, yeah. Man, I'd be a, people ask me, man, what you doing in Atlanta? Living? Man, you live here? Yeah. I ain't know that. Man, you know what? I'm sorry, I ain't seen you that email.

Fuck? Yeah. Because I don't go nowhere. Now, you know, some of the boys come to town or something like that. We go get something to eat. But I, far as the club? Nah Hell not

Hey um I've finally been the booby trap I wasn't I wasn't Hey My dad My daughter Huh

Ha Ha ha Ha ha Hey Hey Let me tell you um It's so bad My kids

My daughters took me The booby trap Unk It's bad it in Houston Oh, they're neck and neck boy Hey, it's neck and neck No, you know, I ain't been to Houston since I told you I'm never going back

I don't want, I don't want them problems See, now you're talking about hell You told me, let's move to Houston Huh? You know what? Hey, I was just talking Okay, I'm glad I'm glad I was just I still don't understand How the men in Houston

Can live Amongst the women that I I saw at my peripheral vision. I didn't look nobody in the eyes. I just used, I used my peripheral vision like I was a running back. You ain't got to tell me nothing, no, Joe. That don't make no sense.

You ain't got to tell me nothing, nothing, nothing. Oh my God. I ain't been back since and I ain't going back. I was raised on a farm. I was in 4-H. Hey, I don't been to the Serengetti. I've been to a goat show and the country fair. I ain't never seen no issue like that

what I saw in Houston. Hey, who are you telling? It's a rap. Hey, you know, Andre Johnson, Andre Johnson from Miami. And I seen Dre the last time I went to Dre, Dre took me to him and Jonathan Joseph. Chapman and Kirby. They took me Chapman and Kirby.

Nice little spot. You get to relax. I was able to smoke my cigar. And I asked, and I say, can y'all do me a favor? Now, you know, we family. We brothers. Can you please explain to me, Dre, you didn't left Miami. And you got, you came to Houston and you ain't been back to Miami since.

And I just want to sit in and tell you face to face to your eye, I understand why. Drain, been back to Miami. I know he told him. He left University. Hey, unbelievable. I ain't never, do we have anybody from Houston in the chat? I hope not. I'm a block y'all of y'all in the chat.

Oh my God. Man. Hey, you want to go, hey, you want to just take a trip out there to go to Area 29? Oh, Cho. Oh Joe It's got to be in 27 God damn What happened?

You skip a whole year? I can't skip a whole year, Joe Why? Because they ain't got no dime They got more Hey, not, hey, hold on, you can't You definitely are skipping on the year Not after that night we just had night before.

What happened? I was drunk I was drunk. I don't remember nothing. That's what I'm using. Oh, no. Hey, go ahead and take your shout at a little poor day real quick. No, no, no, no. Hey, hey, that was a clay.

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