Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Shannon Sharpe & Chad Johnson react to Eagles beating Packers in Brazil

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles defeating Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers in the NFL's first game in Brazil, Justin Fields possibly starting for the Pittsburgh Steelers as Russell Wilson deals with an injury, and Ja'Marr Chase questionable to play as he awaits a contract extension from the Cincinnati Bengals.03:10 - SHOW STARTS05:30 - Eagles beat Packers43:45 - Isaiah Likely snaps at Heckler51:15 - Justin Fields may start week 153:50 - Ja’marr chase Contract dispute01:00:50 - Kadarius Toney tryout for the Browns(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we hold off on that we ain't want no features you sure yeah yeah we good man let me next know me rapping on the back end of that. No, we hold off on that. We ain't want no features. You sure? Yeah, we good. Man, let me next know. Listen, next time when we do the tour and we got merch, let me drop a track. No, what we did, we wanted the fans to get involved, so we let them be the stars of the

match. Okay, okay, okay. Say less. Say less. Back-to-back games for the first time, I think, in the NFL, we had a Thursday, this early in the season. We remember last year, we had the Thursday night Thanksgiving Day game, and then we had a Black Friday game. But the opener season the NFL gave us back-to-back games,

Thursday night and a Friday, and the Green Bay Packers and the Philadelphia Eagles played in Brazil, got an international game early in the season. The Eagles prevailed 34-29. Jalen Hurts, 30-24, 278, two touchdowns, two INTs, sacked twice. Saquon Barkley came out big. He had 24 carries, a buckle nine, two touchdowns,

also caught four touchdowns. A.J. Brown, five catches, a buck 19, one touchdown. And Devontae Smith really sealed it late because he had some big catches late in the ballgame. Seven catches for 84 yards. And then we have Jordan Love, who got nicked at the end of the game. Going to be interesting to see how serious that injury is. He was 17 of 34 for two 62 touchdowns, one INT.

He was sacked once, Josh Jacob, 18 for 84. And Reed, four catches for $1.38. Ocho, you watch this game before I give you my synopsis of it. What did you think about this game, Ocho? It was a doozy at the beginning. I'm going to be honest with you. It was a doozy at the beginning because I'm thinking, okay, high-powered offenses, two really good quarterbacks,

some of the best receivers in the game. You know, they got them young bulls over there with the Packers. I'm thinking Jordan Love, they're going to come out there and air it out. Shoot, the beginning of the game, listen, horrible, horrible, stupid penalties on the Eagle defense. Jalen Carter, baby, we got to do better, baby.

We got to do better. Jordan Davis, y'all should be dominating that interior. Y'all should be dominating that interior. Y'all should be dominating that interior. Every time. The second half, in the second quarter, towards the end of the second quarter, like maybe in the eighth or ninth minute,

from that point on, we had some football being played on both sides of the ball. They started putting series together, stringing, stringing, stringing, play after play after play, getting drives together. The center and Jalen Hurts, they got to get it together. They got to get it. Listen, we done had training camp. I'm not sure what's going on.

They got to get that together. The two interceptions also could have been costly. You got to protect the ball. There's no reason that ball should have been thrown down the middle of the field in that coverage. Honestly, Ocho, Jalen Hurts could have had four picks.

Oh, yeah. You see Jair drop one late towards the end. And the corner out on the sideline. he had one that's going to the end zone Nixon it was a Nixon or Mixon Nixon he dropped one

yeah hell Jordan Love had two too he had a house call by Dean the interception that that that that both of those guys through yeah i'm trying to figure out what you're i still don't understand what jordan loves saw there's a whole safety so in other words there's cover one or cover three whatever you want to call it see how they rotate it there's a guy there's a safety in the hole

the other guy is running with him and you still try to throw a seed? I don't think he saw the safety, though. Oh, Joe, that's pre-snap where he thought he was going. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he saw him. Obviously, at pre-snap, at pre-snipe, excuse me, at pre-snap, once he dropped back, you know, his eyes are locked in downfield and on his target.

When he saw the dude trailing, it was a tight end, wasn't it? That was a tight end, wasn't it? Yeah, yes, Kraft, I think. Yeah, when he saw the dude trailing tight end, he thought the tight end was open, not knowing the safety was sitting right there just baiting him, and he broke on it right away. But, Ocho, I can see if they did, if they, like,

like the old Steelers, they line up close, and the safety didn't get back. And they didn't shoot up out of the eye. They lined up in the hole. Yeah. They lined up in the hole. And then Hurts, it looked like, and Hurts on his interception, I'm like, Hurts, what did you see? It looked like it might have been Tampa 2 or quarter, quarter, half.

I couldn't really see. But the safety, I'm i'm like bro you throw that man you know you can't throw the ball like that ocho and then he he left it in there if you you got you got it you got to shoot that that thing gotta be up and down up and down right away but listen it was a good game it had it it had it was a good game in spurts yes yes it was a good game in spurts. Yes. Yes. It was a good game in spurts. Listen, when they came out, the end of the second quarter was unbelievable. For both sides of the ball. Yeah.

For both offenses, both defenses. And then at the beginning, at the half, when they came out of halftime, that thing was looking good. And then it went to sleep again. Went to snooze fest. Went to a snooze fest, and then it picked up a little bit for the Eagles and goddamn Jaden Reed. I tweeted it not too long ago.

His name and Jaden Reed, for you casual fans that don't know. And he showed out, even though they did lose. He played well. He played well. Oh, Joe. Yeah, yes, sir. Joe in love. he played well he played well oh joe yeah yes sir jordan love he had a look when they really could have put some separation between themselves and the eagles yes sir jordan love had two series that really cost them the game if you go back and look he has the receiver he He has, uh, I think it's Reed screaming across the field on the over route.

He skips that to him. He has, he has dogs on the, on the dagger route. He throws that behind him. Behind him. Yeah. And he has dogs on the speed out.

He throws that behind it. Yeah. I'm like, bro. Oh, Joe, you gotta stop throwing so much off that back foot. I know we get enamored by a Rogers.

We get enamored by Rodgers. We get enamored by Mahomes. But, bro, you've got to stop throwing off your back foot because that's why the ball is sailing on you and it's being late getting there. And it's okay to step up forward into the pocket. He refused. He just wanted to retreat and throw off his back foot. Step up in the pocket, shift your weight, and throw the ball, bro.

Yeah, and the funny thing about it is the fact that he sat behind Rodgers all that time. You can tell the mannerisms and the way he mimics and throws and all the different arm angles that he does have. He's gotten them from Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron Rodgers has... Look, Jordan Love has arm strength as well.

He has arm strength as well. I'm not sure if it's to the velocity of Aaron Rodgers. So he's able to get away with some of those throws where the mechanics are all out of whack, but the ball is still able to get there on time because of his accuracy. So I think that's something. Oh, my goodness. I'm not sure if you can actually break that goddamn habit at this point. Now, the season is starting. I'm sure something that they can work on, you know, to get him back on the basics,

get him back on the basic fundamentals of being able to execute and process not only doing your reads before you throw the ball, but having your mechanics and your footwork and your left foot pointing in the right direction before you throw in the ball and get away from what you saw Aaron Rodgers doing. Because if you watch him, him and Aaron look exactly the goddamn same from a mechanical standpoint when it's time to throw the ball. Yes. But there are some opportunities that,

like I said, I thought they could have got some separation between them and the Eagles because whatever reason, the Eagles couldn't get out of their own way. The court, Jalen threw a terrible interception and then the center snaps the ball. That is not on Jalen Hurt. He's going through, and then the center snaps the ball. That is not on Jalen Hurts.

He's going through his cadence, and the center snaps the ball, and he kind of hits him in the arm. That's on the center. And then he throws another terrible interception. He got away with a couple, but late in the ballgame. Hold on.

What about the tush push? The tush push fumbled, too. Yes. Yeah. The center looked like the center didn't even snap it all the way up to the top. Boy, they dodged a bullet on that one, Ocho. Oh, yeah, they did. So, honestly, really, the center looked like the center didn't even snap it all the way up to the top. Boy, they dodged a bullet on that one, Ocho. Oh, yeah, they did.

So, honestly, really, the Eagles lost this. I mean, not the Eagles. The Packers lost this game. The Eagles didn't really win it, if you think about it. No. If you look at all the opportunities that the Packers had to actually run away, not run away with the game, but actually take advantage. Put some separation between them, yes.

Yeah, exactly. Put some separation between them. They didn't take advantage of the opportunities. I know one thing. You can tell it was week one. Yeah. Could anybody line up, Bocho? Can anybody line up and stop all these illegal shifts, illegal formation?

Oh, yeah. Two guys going in motion. What the hell? At the same time. Why you going two guys? Yeah. Now, when did y'all ever done that? Never.

Well, wait. Honestly, wait a minute. Think about it now two people can be in motion but before the snap of the ball both have to be set yes but i think the play clock was running down and he had to hurry up and snipe the ball snap the ball so those are the things that you can fix those are the kind of mistakes you expect teams to make in week one even though you've been through training camp even though though you've done it, you had repetition after repetition after repetition and live action mistakes like they're going to be had.

Yeah. But I know one thing. You could tell it was week one, but you can tell both teams defensively and offensively have so much potential. By the time they hit week four or week five and everything is really rolling and they in sync with that

chemistry, it's going to be nasty. I hope Jordan Love is okay, too. Yeah. The Eagles defense, they showed some grit early in the game when that game could have... They had...

Jalen Hurts had two costly turnovers early and the Eagles held them to six points. Yeah. That's really what the difference in the ball game, won't you? Because the game could have got away from you so, so early. But give the Eagles defense,

Vic Fangio, he was brought in there um to revitalize that so they did a good job of keeping the packers out of the end zone with those two early uh turnovers but yeah the packer squandered some opportunity he had christian watson running at the back of the end zone and i don't know if he slipped or he just overshot him. It looked like he overshot him. He overshot him a little bit, but the push, the little shove from the safety threw him off balance just a

tad bit. We weren't able to get to that ball. Just that little shove it messed up everything. But I tell you what, it's a great feeling to be one and oh as opposed to o and one with this little mini buy uh you feel good you have to go have to travel what probably 10 11 hours back you're banged up i don't know i don't know if look i've never gone on a long trip where i had to play a whole lot. So normally when I went on international flights, I didn't play enough to get sore.

Right, right, right. So it's a big difference actually playing a meaningful game because normally it was early in the preseason. And so we only play in a series, maybe two series at the max. Now, in 92, we played in Berlin. And hell, I played up until the third quarter because, you know, Dan wanted me to play a little more because they were going to ask me to do a little more that year so that was really my first year of getting heavy heavy minutes in the regular season so he wanted me to go a little bit longer

and i totally understood that but for the most part ocho we played overseas i wasn't playing long enough to get sore you played at least 60 plays 65 plays in this game you'll ask sore if you play oh yeah oh yeah most Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Can I ask you one thing, Ocho? I want to ask you this. Yes, sir. There's 30 seconds on the damn clock. You hadn't run the ball out of the end zone the whole effing night.

You got no timeouts. What makes you run the ball? Special teams coach, head coach, leave the ball in the end zone. We're going to get it get it plus and no time goes off the clock yeah guess what they get the ball he runs it out runs time off the clock and he's 15 yards short of where he would have gotten the ball and no time would have gone off the clock if he took a knee so now when jaylen hurts throws that pass imagine putting up 15 yards farther than what it was you see sometimes that's what we talk about we talk about football iq and basketball iq

it's plays like that that irks me what makes you so oh so so in the first half the second half the second quarter when they scored you didn't run it out. Now you behind. You got no timeouts. Now you want to play. You see what happens when you try to play hero ball, Lojo? Hero ball. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, that was, I don't know. Listen, that's why I said it. That's why I said you could tell it's week one. As much preparation as they did before this game you can still see the mistakes the mental mistakes not even by just the players themselves by the coaches as well when certain situations like this come up again now you've already you've already been through it and you understand well you know what we can't do that we can't have, sometimes common sense ain't common, man. Ocho, let me ask you a question.

There's 30 seconds on the clock, and you catch the ball. What you going to do, Ocho? You got no time out. I'm taking a knee. You know, you got no time out. You catch the ball. What you trying to do, Ocho? Get out of bounds.

Get out of bounds? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So I'm just trying to figure out why when you had 12 minutes on the clock, Get out of bounds. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah. So I'm just trying to figure out why when you had 12 minutes on the clock, 13 minutes on the clock, you got three timeouts.

You don't run the ball out. But in this situation, you got no timeouts and there's only 30 seconds. Now you want to be a hero and take it to the house. You see, that is things like that. I mean, the coach, look, look i get it the coach would always i mean that was my job when i was on special teams the car always try to brief the guys okay hey guys we ain't got no timeouts hey we're gonna leave it in the end zone so forth and so on or we got to make sure we cover okay we got to leave we just took the lead on the leg second touch

last second field goal or last second touchdown. Okay, guys, let's make sure we cover. Let's make sure we stay in our lane. Now, you know, A, we hadn't seen that return. A, Alto, be on the look for it. Lilo, Hallie, be on the look for that return coming back your way now. So you letting the guys know we hadn't seen that return, now's a good time for them to bring it out because what the hell do

they have to lose oh lord see this is why i can't play but i tell you what everybody know what the hell to do on man everybody know what to do on cod everybody know what to do on minecraft but you don't know what the f to do when it comes to the game the thing that's paying you and allowed you to get these fancy ass chairs and all those great setups you now all of a sudden what the coach ain't telling me to coach it the coach ain't tell you how to play um cod who told them guys how to play cod ocho ain't no coach ain't nobody coaching them ain't nobody telling what to do but they can play that thing oh can't nobody beat me in madden can't nobody beat me in ncaa repetition repetition well repetition and do that stay your ass in the end zone with 30 seconds and no time out.

You know damn well. And the thing is, Ocho, we've seen it in the preseason, and we've seen it two games. Ain't nobody even come close. Most of the time, they don't even bring it out. Right. I mean, it looks so... I'm like, I'm like, ain't nobody gonna move?

I mean, it almost doesn't even seem real because the guy kicked the ball and the guy can't take off running. They can't take off until he catches it. I'm like, I don't know how everybody else is feeling about it, Ocho, but I ain't liking this new kickoff rule. I get why they're doing it. I get why they're doing it.

I get why. The safety reasons, I understand as well. But I think one of the things that the NFL is doing is they're trying to crack down on people getting hurt in the collisions that happen on kickoff. Yes. I don't think they're going to be very many kickoffs at all. I told a commissioner that. Because everybody's kicker has a strong leg at this point.

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The other guy's coming his way. He's running 10 to 15 miles an hour. So when they collide, way, he's running 10 to 15 miles an hour. So when they collide, that's a 40 miles an hour impact. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You want to know what it feels like to run? Hey, just line up. I'll tell you what you do. 20 yards.

I want you to get your hard hat from Lowe's or Home Depot, put on your overcoat and line up 20 yards and run into your garage as hard as you fucking can if you want to see if you want to know what it feels like to be on kickoff kick return pump pump return because i played them all for three years yeah if you want to know what it feels like man but shannon what does it feel like to be? And I've been knocked out, and I've knocked some guy's ass out on that. Right, right, right.

Yeah, I used to be in the wedge as a rookie, too. Yeah, you're too late to ask to be in the wedge. I was in the wedge. I was in the wedge. The Chargers used to have a wedge weighed over 1,000 pounds. Really? What? Yes.

Who they had in there? Anybody I know? No. No. They had, like, had, like Anybody I know? No. They had like two, some more. They had two like D-tackles and an offensive lineman. 330,

345, 350. And you know back then Ocho used to come together. They hold hands. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They sure did. They sure did. And so now you got to have somebody to try to take them out. But you couldn't go low. So you had to have somebody. Had to be a out but you couldn't go low so you had to have somebody had to be a wedge buster

you had a couple of guys that we called wedge busters man Ocho I never forget Barcelona 1994 Richard Smith

was our special teams coach. And he gets you fired up, Ocho. He gets you fired up the night before the game. He's like, what I want, I want guys to go over that wall. I need somebody that's going to bust that effing wedge. And you can see guys get geeked because it's the opportunity, Ocho. Hey, play good on the special team. Make the team.

Hey, the more you can do, the better your chance of success. I need somebody to go over that effing wall. Okay. Sure enough, we kick off and get back to the wedge. Anthony Lynn

used to be coach of the Chargers. I think he's the OC, not the commanders. Right over the top of the wedge. Guess what, Ocho? He jumped over it? He hit the wedge, went over the top, broken leg. Ah. But you know how he got the job?

How? I used to be on the return. I was one of the two guys on the return. I was like, I was one of the two guys in the return. So there's a guy and then there's a guy over there and he's looking at me, hey, let's go. So we had a special teams meeting.

I said, Rich, people don't believe it, but he tell the story. I said, Rich, you want to lead the NFL in kick returns? He's showing the film. He's stopping. That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Did y'all hear that? Also, he stood up. Did y'all hear that?

My all pro tight end, pro bow tight end want to lead the league in kick returns. I said, well, you need to take me off the cover. My man going to make the tackle every time. Hey, the next day, A. Lynn, you up. Ask A. Lynn, ask Richard Smith, ask anybody. I told him that. I said,

Coach, you want to lead the league and kick returns? He got all fired up. I said, well, you need to take me off because my man going to make the tackle every time. I was off that thing. But my first three years, because that was all right. At that point in time, now, I had led a team

in reception. So I had to better myself. Now, they needed me, but my first three years... Yeah. You was getting that work, huh? I was L3. I was L3 on kick. I was L3 on kick return. I was in the front line. I was an L three on kick. I was an L three on kick return.

I was in the front line. I was a guard. Yeah. On the kick return. I was an L three on kick off. Right. Right down the... I'm coming, Ocho. I'm coming, Ocho. See, but... So you don't remember

my rookie year when I was in the wedge? And then on kick... Then on kickoff, I was L2. Well, you the safety. You probably put the peel back. I was the safety, yeah. But I'm saying on kickoff, I was in the wedge. No, hold on, though. You mean kick return, you in the wedge?

Oh, kick return, yeah, I was in the wedge. I was in the middle. You're too light to be in the wedge. They'll never go put nobody under 200 pounds in the wedge. Well ain't never going to put nobody under 200 pounds in the wedge. Well, you never seen me hit? Nah. No, when I came in as a rookie, I was like 235.

That's why I was on the wedge. Ocho, I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho. If they'd have put you in the wedge, they'd have hit you so hard on the top of your head, you'd have peeped out your ribs and thought you'd in jail. No, no.

I'm telling you. No, I'm telling you. You talking to somebody that been in there. You didn't want no part of that. I was in the wedge in the 2000. What you talking about? How you think I made the team?

I didn't make the team playing receiver. You a second round pick. That's how you made the team. You ain't gonna be in that wedge. You too little. How you... You just saw me in person and saw how big I am. I did.

So think about this, Ocho. Think about how much... Because as we start to age, most of us, we get little old man girth and stuff on us. Can you imagine how skinny you was in your early 20s? If you like this now in your 40s?

Yeah, I mean, as a rookie, you got to remember coming from the combine and putting all the extra weight and all the extra mass on me to perform, I was i was about 215 but but listen dick listen i'll never forget dick laboe dick laboe was the head coach at that time and they were so impressed with me on special teams that i really ain't tested for that receiver i was a special team expert oh yeah but you know back then don't you i mean anything goes it wasn't like expert. Oh, yeah. But you know, back then, Ocho, I mean, anything goes.

It wasn't like it is now where you couldn't take off running because they didn't change the rules before they implemented this, Ocho. You couldn't even lead until the guy kicked the ball. I line up behind the kicker, and when he drop his hand, I'm taking off running. When he kicked that ball,

I'm in an all-out sprint. By the time they retreat, and by the time they do this, Ocho. Right in their face. I'm in their chairs. I'm in their chairs. I'm dead in his chairs. But congratulations to the Eagles. Go on the road in Brazil.

34-29, victors over the Packers. And that field was some bull jive. It was. It was. It was bad. It was. It was. It was bad. It was bad. But listen, listen. Players have no reason slipping because you had pregame warm-up.

You tested the field the day before. So you already knew your ass needed goddamn studs anyway. Seven studs. You got to go to the... Everybody want to wear those soccer bottoms. But you got to realize, Ocho. They have to be heavy. Soccer players don't be weighing 200 pounds moving like that.

Oh, no. Double Jugglers 165, maybe 170. At best. You better get your ass some seven studs and sit down in them things. They changed them after a while, though. You notice that people stop slipping after a while.

Yeah. That was the whole purpose. I mean, look, I used to always seven studs and then I went to tempo bottom, what we call

speed TD bottoms. I don't know if they still call them tempo bottoms, you know what I'm saying? Like the molded bottoms. But I had, I like seven studs because I didn't want to slip.

The last thing I want to do is get an opportunity to make a, you know, I slip, the ball's intercepted or I slip and i miss a touchdown or a key catch so there was only there was only one place where i had to wear seven stars

and that was when we went to hines field oh yeah i think i think back back during those days obviously it was it was it was running error i think hines they kept their field messy yeah to keep the opposing team at a disadvantage. Yeah, because they're looking to run the football. They're trying to throw it all over the place until they got Big Ben. Yeah. They were running the football. Yeah, they sure were.

They were running it. Yeah. And, you know, that's how the Steelers, the Steelers used to be built. They played defense and they ran the football. Ran the ball, yeah. They always played defense and they ran the football. Ran the ball, yeah. They always played defense and they always ran the football until they got Big Ben. And then when they got Big Ben, they still

played a hell of a defense. But they started throwing it all over the yard. The St. Juan Barkley, three touchdowns are tied for the most by any player in a team's debut in the Super Bowl era. Ocho, guess who was the last Eagles players to do that?

What? Three Super Bowl, three TDs in the Super Bowl era? Yep, for the Eagles. Last Eagle? Ricky, um, I almost said Ricky Waters. In his debut. In his debut. Oh, debut? You know him very well. T.O.?

Yeah. T.O. T.O.? Yeah. T.O. The Giants. 2000. That wasn't 05. What year was that? 04. Yeah, 04.

You know what? Matter of fact, speaking of Saquon and the game he had tonight, his debut as an Eagle, how do you think the Giants feel? How do you think they feel? I mean, how do you think they feel? How do you still, and listen, I argued with a dude tonight. He said there's no reason paying a running back

like that. It didn't make any sense because all the Giants were going to do is they were going to lose anyway. Well, I mean, you want to keep your best players. That's what I look at, regardless of the position. You keep your best player. Now, you pay the quarterback and people's like, well, and that's like, Saququon gotta feel like he's in heaven because look he ain't gotta dodge everybody in the backfield he gets to get there at least to the line of scrimmage without

getting help put on him and then right well y'all talk about saquon didn't have any room to run but y'all criticize daniel jones daniel jones does a lot of little interceptions he hitting guys in the chest he ain't always getting sacked now right right but I'm happy for Saquon I'm happy for him I am and look what you saw tonight it's only going to get better it's only going to get better

with A.J. Brown playing like that with Devontae Smith playing like that and then he is running the ball like that, with that type of efficiency, at some point, at one point, he was getting eight yards a goddamn carry. He quick. I mean, he hit the hole one time. I was like, damn, Saquon. On that touchdown. On that touchdown

run on that first one? Yeah. Woo! I mean, he hit the hole on that one quick. Yeah. Oh, hold on. In the back of playing around now. He ain't want none of that. The backer was playing. I'm not sure. I'm bad with names, especially when it comes to defenders.

That second level, that backer could have made that play. He went right along with the block in the wash. You could have shared that and made the tackle. But that's just me. Hey, I don't know this kid. This is Zach Brown or where he came from. But that's just me. Hey, I don't know this kid, this Zach Brown, or where he came from, but he raised hell tonight.

15 tackles, 11 solo, two sacks on a tackle for long. Blankenship, a tremendous safety. He had eight tackles, four solo. But I thought the key difference in the ball game was early on, keeping them out of the end zone. That could have been, instead of six. That could have been instead of six,

that could have been, that could have been 14. Absolutely. And that would have changed the game. Yep. That would have changed the game. So now in a situation like that, Ocho,

I don't have to get out of my game plan because of the touchdown. And I'm in the lead, even though I played bad up until this point, I scored a touchdown. I'm in the lead now. So I feel they had to feel comfortable knowing that as bad as we played, we're only down. We're only down a touchdown. I'm in the lead now. So I feel they had to feel comfortable knowing that as bad as we played, we're only down, we're only down a touchdown.

Right. As opposed to being down two scores, which would have kind of been demoralizing, but the Eagles found a way to, to withstand the early pressure by the Packers. And they went 29, 30, 34,

29. The Eagles won Saquon Barkley in his debut, three touchdowns, 109 rush yards to go along with two catches, 23 yards, and another touchdown. So Saquon had him

quite a day in his debut. Okay, tonight, much of the NFL game, but it won't be the last. Earlier today, Roger Goodell said the NFL focus is on playing at least seven international games next season. That would include Spain, the United Kingdom, and Germany.

We played in Berlin back in 92. He also added, we hope to go back to Mexico. We played a preseason game in Mexico and certainly intend to be back here in Brazil. Playing seven or more international games next year would be a step up from the

five scheduled for this year. In addition to tonight's games, there are three more games, Ocho, London, Munich, and Germany. Hold on. Munich. Munich and Germany. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So one is in London,

one is in Munich. Where's the other one? Oh, two of them in London. Okay, they got two in London and one in Munich. Three in London. Oh, they got three in London. Oh, two in London. And you know what would be really dope is, you know, soccer season just started. Everybody's on international break right now.

But, I mean, these games, you talk about the two, the three in London are this year. Yeah. The one in Munich. Yep. I would hope, I would hope, I mean, if I was still playing, I would hope we fly out a little earlier than normal. Like maybe a week in advance. That might be a little bit, you know, exaggerated. I would love to fly out in advance and go to a game.

Because, you know, soccer season is during the same time as football. Who's going to fly out? The team. What team? Whoever's playing in London this year. Oh, I thought you were talking about us. I said, man, you're out your damn mind. No, no, not us. I'm just saying if I was playing, I would love if the team flew out early so

on a day off, I can catch a soccer game. Ocho, you know how teams roll. They not trying to do anything. They trying to control as much time as you can. When you got, when you play with the Bengals,

y'all got y'all ass to the city, 3.30, 4 o'clock, 4.30, and then you had meetings at 7. They not trying to give you no time to do nothing. Yeah, but we talk about, we talk about a seven, eight hour flight all the way across the water. They have done studies and they say the no time to do nothing? Yeah, but we talk about a seven, eight hour flight all the way across

the water. They have done studies and they say the best thing to do is to get there the day before, treat it like a regular game, get up and go play. Oh, hell, hell no. I'm just telling you. Absolutely not. They can't do that. They can't do that. For one, you have to

fly. You got to fly early. To me, I'm thinking maybe three days early. They ain't going no three days early. They just got there Thursday. When they flew to Brazil? Yeah. They ain't just get there yesterday. Come on, man.

When did they get there? When did they get there? I guarantee you they ain't get no three days early. No, they've been there at least a week. No, hell no. There's no way they flew in yesterday. That's impossible. Ain't no way they flew in yesterday and played

a game tonight. This game was in Corinthians Arena in Sao Paulo. The next one is the Jets, Minnesota and Tottenham. Jacksonville, Chicago is going to be in Tottenham in the stadium. Hotspur in New England. Jacksonville will be in Wembley. And then the Giants, Carolina and Lance Arena in Munich.

Oh, that's going to be nice, boy. That's going to be nice, boy. That's going to be nice. They arrived in Brazil last night. They arrived in Brazil last night. I've told you. I've talked to teams and they say, through the expert they've

talked to, it's best to get there and treat it just like a normal game. I'm just telling you what I was told. Now, if it's a lie, they lied to me. You know what? After a flight like that, after a flight that long, if I'm not mistaken, a flight to Brazil

is what, eight, nine hours, something like that? 10, 12, probably. Hold on, how long is a flight from Brazil to, from Philly to Brazil? One day in advance advance and then you go out and play football? Yeah. Man, they tripping, man. They tripping.

Oh, Joe, when we float international, we had to go to the state. We go to the hotel, change. A lot of times we didn't go because we had to pack a change of clothes and we go straight to the thing and go to practice. Go to Japan after 20 hours mean you mean walk through oh we got a good run in or when damn we want no walk through we ran okay okay because they didn't want us to go go to bed because you tired the first thing i'm gonna do i'm gonna go to bed bed yeah yeah yeah oh that's crazy that day before 10 hour flight

child please yeah the 4th so the day after what the 6th so they arrived on the 4th that night so like I said yeah Dana that's it they're not going in there early that early because they said that it's best on the body go ahead uh the Green Bay Packers

it took them 10 hours 10 hours 40 minutes to reach Sao Paulo on the 7-7 so basically it's a double decker the Eagle was a 9.5 hour flight one of the Packers initial concerns about playing in Brazil

sent a team traveling whether they could get a large enough plane to land in Green Bay at Austin Shrew, which is in Appleton, right? No, that's Green Bay. Green Bay. Green Bay. If not, they would have to bus to Milwaukee, a two-hour ride, then a larger

plane means more pods for players to stretch out. The Eagles made the adjustment for their count along a commute. Instead of their usual one-meal travel, they had two. The Eagles made the adjustment for their count along the commute. Instead of their usual one meal during travel, they had two. The focus was on extra hydration and the group was encouraged to stay awake during the trip so they could

sleep well once they arrived in Brazil Thursday night. That's crazy work, man. That's why I didn't go to sleep when we went to France. That's right. That's what the guy said. He said, Shadow, make sure you stay. The only difference is that we arrived early that morning.

We left Saturday night and arrived early that morning. But no, that's what I've been told. The teams that take these large flights, it's like, nope. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content.

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Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, there's a video making it around today of the Ravens tight end Isaiah Likely

unloading on the Oakland Chiefs fans after a narrow loss. The video shows him walking in the tunnel and screaming, F-U-B. This was minutes after Toe landed out of bounds in the back of the end zone in the final seconds. Ocho, are you okay with understandable behavior? Yes!

Listen, fan heckling you, talking shit, and you say something back. That's part of the game. That's part of the game. I'm talking about they were talking slick. If you turn it up and listen, the fan says something slick,

he say, shut up, bitch. And he kept it moving. Yeah. I mean, that's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's nothing that should get him in trouble or anything like that. No, hell no. I mean, that's just normal.

That's your normal everyday trash talk. You say it to me, I'm saying something back. Yeah, for sure. The fan ain't throw nothing. No, long as ain't nothing racial. Long as ain't nothing racial. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just some words. Just some words. And listen, that ain't throw nothing long as ain't nothing racial yeah yeah yeah it was just some words just some words and listen that ain't nothing what do you call those things

they got on the sideline that pick up everything you say the mics the boom mics you think him saying shut up bitch is bad let them mics let everybody hear what everybody's saying on the field. If you think that's bad,

man, that wasn't nothing. Just, you know, a little emotion, a little emotion. He upset. He did what he was supposed to. Yeah, if Likely wore a size 9 shoe, that would have been a touchdown. Nah, he ain't gonna be 6'4 with a size 9. He ain't gonna be able to walk

hey I'm just saying I'm just saying yeah but like look I don't have a problem look like a lot of times like I said as long as it's not racial you're like hey y'all long you suck okay fine you know I ain't got no problem with that

I hope you sit and say look at i say i tell you what your tequila spikes next wife like it man hey see that you just let be all cut but that's the first thing they say people will attack you on social media. It be women. And then when you cut their ass up, oh, is that how you talk to women? Yeah, women that talk to me like that, that's exactly how I talk to y'all punk ass. I mean, people feel like, oh, because you Shannon Sharp, you on television, I should be able to say whatever I want to say to you. I should be able to insult you.

And because you're on television and you make millions, like all of a sudden because I'm on television, I'm not human. All of a sudden, I don't have a family. All of a sudden, I ain't got kids. So we gonna talk to you and say whatever. Now, the moment I shoot their ass up, obviously, figuratively,

now all of a sudden, does ESPN know you talk to people? Did Fox know you talk to people like this or did your employer know you on here talking crazy and reckless see cause me everybody know me

I'm very respectful and everything I tweet out and I'll engage a lot of times they're like why you engaging with these people? But then when they try to get disrespectful, oh, I got to get you. I got to get you. I'm going to let you know. Okay, now. I know y'all see me in this suit

and tie, but y'all forgot now. I was real slick with my talk. Hey, okay. And then all of a sudden, oh, oh, but I wanted ESPN. No. Yeah, they know. I'm sure they're monitoring.

But they also saw what you're saying. I was provoked. Yeah. That's their favorite thing to say. Always go to the employer. Yeah. Listen, I've always been the way I am. Oh, I haven't changed.

I haven't changed since day one. I've always been like this. If you follow me on Twitter, I'm always tweeting. I'm always positive. Always I love you. But if you shoot, I'm going to shoot back with you. And I'm going to keep going. Yeah, dude. I'm going to keep going.

You remember when Tom Brady, when Tom Brady's thing I think was the Flickate. And you know, I was going back and forth with some Patriots fans. And one guy tried to be slick, talking about, you look like Mr. Ed. I said, yeah, your mommy said giddy up last night. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

Aw, aw, aw. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no, you hit it with the mama joke? I sure did. Hey, I know you were hot, boy. Oh, yeah. I know you were hot. Oh, yeah. Oh, I know you were hot. boy. Oh, yeah. I know you were hot. Oh, yeah.

Oh, I know you were hot. Oh, yeah. But that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out if y'all dislike somebody. For me, if I don't like you, I'm not following you

and I'm definitely not going to jump on your timeline to try to insult you. If I don't F with you, I'm not going to buy your music. I'm not going to go to any of your, I'm not going to go to any of your movies. Okay, I don't F with you. But I not going to buy your music. I'm not going to go to any of your movies. Okay, I don't F with you.

But I'm definitely not going to jump on your timeline to try to say something slick. Why y'all want to, I mean, I'm one of the most, I'm probably one of the celebs, former athletes, whatever you want to call me, that I'll engage fans. Hey, man, what was this? I said, well, this is what i saw blah blah blah but then all of a sudden everybody feel like they want to be able to say something

slick yeah yeah i mean listen listen twitter social media in general is a gift and a curse and i enjoy it i embrace all of it i like i like the positivity yes i like i like the negative negativity i like i like a happy balance i don't want all nice stuff being said to me. And sometimes I need you to talk shit. I want to hear the bad too. The bad shit you say, it keep me goddamn humble sometimes. Even though it won't. But still, I like to hear it.

Just to keep me grounded a little bit. I was talking to the dude, Ocho, and I said something. And he didn't even repeat basically what I said. So I just told him, I said, I can tell that you was rewarded with, your grades were cookies and stars. I can tell, that's what you got all the way through high school, cookies and stars.

And you didn't get a diploma, you got a certificate, paid for attending. I can say it, Ocho, man, I don't want to just try to insult people but y'all come on my timeline I ain't looking for y'all I don't follow y'all I welcome people to follow me hey love

the show love fucking Ocho love you such and such hey I disagree with you on this but you still cool but when y'all try to insult me now sometimes this is how I do it, Ocho. If I got to think about it, because I'm really going to cut your ass up,

I won't press send. Because I've written some stuff, I'm like, ooh, I don't know, Sean. That's too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I've been trying to send your ass to the trauma center. I don't want no paper cut. I'm trying to send your ass to the trauma center. don't want no paper cut I'm trying to send your ass to the trauma center

so I'm just letting y'all know I like it though go ahead it makes social media fun though to me, for those who it doesn't bother, I like the negativity I like the mixture of positivity with it it just makes social media

that much better to me. Some people can't take it. I don't want to use the word weak. I don't want to use that. For lack of better words, let's go on to the next topic before I say the wrong thing. The Pittsburgh Steelers have officially listed Russell Wilson

as questionable for Sunday's matchup against the Falcons. Russ has been nursing a calf injury that could sideline him for the opener. According to Ian Rappaport, Fields is expected to make his Steelers debut and get the start against the Falcons. Shit. Ocho, you know Fields is from, he's from the Atlanta area. He went to Harrison High School.

You don't, hey, who is his favorite? Let me, I'll give you one guess. Who do you think was his favorite player growing up? Michael Vick. And to go back in there in that dome? Damn. Now, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, you lost that bet.

And yeah, Russell Wilson ain't starting. Are we sure about this? We don't know. Are we sure? So, it's a game-time decision. Okay. I we sure? So it's a game-time decision? Okay. I'm asking you, is it a game-time decision? I don't know.

Is that where we're at? Hold on. It ain't the game, and it ain't time for me to say it. But I just know this. When I talk to you on Sunday, make sure you got my money. Wait. Russell Wilson already won the starting job. So what is this?

He's starting the first game of the season. He won the job. He's starting the first game of the season. He won the job. He's starting the first game of the season. Okay, now you're cheating. Now you're cheating. If he won the job and Mike Tyler named him the starter for the season, you can't say because he injured his calf that had nothing to do with him losing the quarterback battle that I lost the bet.

Okay, so let me ask you a question. Technically, you already lost the bet and I didn't even ask for my money. And you reminded me that we did bet. How did Tom Brady get the job? Mo Lewis hit Drew Bledsoe in the chest. Drew Bledsoe was named the starter. This ain't finna be no Wally Pip, though. This ain't finna be no Wally Pip though this ain't finna be one of them

nah nah nah nah nah Russell Wilson playing you know how I know he playing how you know one thing about a praying man when it come to injury you know God put hands on you and all will be well

I know that and I guarantee you number three man when it comes to injury. You know, God put hands on you and all will be well. I know that. And I guarantee you, I guarantee you, number three, walk out there and leave them still as a victory. I mean, I bet that. I've heard Justin Fields say, you know, he give a lot of credit to God, too. Well, I don't know if they serve the same God, but the God

Russell Wilson served is a good guy and he always on time. Jamar Chase addressed the report that he wants one penny. Jamar Chase addressed the report that he wants one penny more than

Justin Jefferson. Let's take a listen to what Jamar had to say about that. Talk your shit, boy. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Talk your shit, boy. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That ain't nothing but confidence.

That's how you talk when you know you're top three in the league right there. You hear me? Yeah. That's how you talk when you know you're top three. Matter of fact, his resume speaks for itself

even though it was early in his career. Matter of fact, before he even got here, before he even got to the NFL, what did he say? I'm coming in, and I'm going to break every record. What did he do as rookie year? He broke a record. Man, that's somebody

you play, you don't even play with him like that. You give him his money. And you know what? You know what? A little birdie told me. What? A little birdie told me, it's probably going to get done before kickoff. It's probably going to get done before kickoff it's probably gonna get done before kickoff for everything he said today is in jest it's probably gonna get done before kickoff and if it doesn't get done notice also for those that have heard the interview he will

be used in very small minimal packages to make sure he doesn't get hurt but i think it's gonna get done that's what that's what that's whatie told me. Matter of fact, I'm going to break it before Adam Sheff to break it. How about that? You know you can't play football like that. You can't play football in small packs. You can't go out there but not trying to get hurt. You got to just go balls to the wall.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm saying even though he's going to play but the packages that he's going to be in are going to be small is what I meant. I didn't mean he's going to chill. He's going to be in are going to be small, is what I meant. I didn't mean he's going to chill. He's going to go 100, 0 to 100, but just sparingly in certain packages. I don't even like the way that sounds. Exactly.

So if you're going to play, he's one of the best. You say he's top three. Why the hell are you playing him in packages? Oh, because that money ain't right? Okay, if the money ain't right, the play ain't right. Let me tell you something. Now, I want people to understand. Listen, I love the city of Cincinnati. I love my

Bengal fans. I love the organization. One thing about it, Chase is the same one who foregoed his senior season, don't forget that, and sat down to make sure he didn't get hurt. You hear me? Oh, I believe it. Yeah, for sure.

Stay with me now, because when I told y'all he's not touching that field until he gets paid, I want you to understand what he's already done before. Oh, he, you know what, I'm going to forego my whole senior season to make sure I don't get hurt and you think he won't sit down until he gets his money? Come on now.

Y'all better stay with me. That's what I always tell guys. Look, if you're thinking about holding out, that year before you're thinking about holding out on show, I'm saving everything. I'm telling mama, look here, we ain't buying no car, we ain't getting no new house, we ain't buying no jewelry because I'm going to hold out

because I'm going to get that bread. Yes, sir. Because you do know when you're in a city, there's an NFL team. They know everything. They know what your money is. And they're like, oh, so you got your mortgages. How much? $3,000? $4,000?

Oh, okay. You got a car? How much? Okay. And you pay? Oh, okay. You'll be here. You won't be long.

Right. And you know what is also scaring me? I'm hearing reports that T. Higgins is a hamstring. His hamstring might be bothering him. But just the day before yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, it might have been yesterday. Well, actually, it's after midnight. So,

two days ago, he said he was feeling the best he's ever felt in camp. And I think now a hamstring, and hamstrings are very very very agitated yeah it's yeah very irritating so i'm hoping i'm hoping all is well with him i hope it's not anything that would be detrimental where he can't play sunday um so if So if Chase doesn't play and T doesn't play, we do have some depth. You ain't got that much depth.

Yeah, we don't have that. I think we have good depth. We have good attitude. I understand what you mean. T Higgins, what's the name of that pool that you used to swim at? Charles Hadley. They got the kiddie pool,

and then they got the 12-footer in. Okay, y'all got them two guys. If theyley. Now, they got the kiddie pool, and then they got the 12-foot end. Right. Okay, y'all got them two guys. If they ain't playing, that's the deep end. And everything else is the kiddie pool. That's the shallow. I don't like that. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to tell you

this. Now, if T and Chase don't play, and you see them young bulls jermaine burton and the rest of the boys go out there and act a fool hey i want you to remember what you i want you remember i told you i told you we had depth i told you hey i told you you didn't pay a whole lot of attention because he got hurt early that boy christian gonzalez is like that oh yeah that dv from that went to o? I think he's from Oregon? Oh, he like that. Let me tell you something.

He's nice, but what he gonna do with Jermaine Burton out there? Okay. Huh? You get up there playing around if you want to with that 4-2, 4-3 if you want to from Alabama. Okay. Huh? Okay. Yeah. Christian Gonzalez is Mexican too, huh? Yeah.

Yeah, that's my dog, man. That's a homie. That's a homie. But he don't want none of the burden. I tell you that. He want all that. Get up there playing around and bump and run if you want to and don't have no safety help.

Oh, he put hands on him. You might as well strike the band up. Bet that. Okay. Okay. Jamar said he'll be a game- decision for the Bengals season open against the Patriots amid what he called aggravating contract dispute he broke his silence today and said he would be willing to play this season even if the two sides cannot agree on an extension

but whether he steps on the field Sunday will be up to him. He said, it's my decision. He isn't the only Bengal wide receiver who could be out. Tee Higgins, as you mentioned, has been listed as doubtful after suffering a hamstring injury on Thursday. Damn. Damn. We're going to be good. Yoshi, Charlie, we we good we got this Jermaine we good I'm telling you matter of fact when I think about it we might have the best receiving core as a whole in the league and I say that respectfully

and probably the second best, I'm talking about death, from one to five. The second will probably be the Packers. Hey, but them Packers loaded, boy. You see how Jaden Reed went off tonight? Now watch when they play, whenever they play their next game, watch it be Christian

Watson. When they play another game, watch it be Romeo Dobbs. Man, them boy... Man, them boys. Boy, them boys nice over there, man. They are. Them boys nice. Kadarius Tony might be a little closer to finding another team. Yeah. Tony had a try Friday for the Browns.

Tony previously had a visit to Seahawks earlier this week. Ocho, do you believe the Browns would be a good fit for Tony? They currently have Amari Cooper, Jerry Judy, and Elijah Moore. And you know what? That's three individuals. That's three

individuals that have the exact same type of playing style that could Darius Tony bring to the table. Exact same. Have you seen Elijah Rogers run routes? Elijah Moore. Same way. All of them. Elijah run routes? Elijah Moore. Same way. All of them dropped your ass off. Elijah Moore from Clemson. Same way.

Jerry Judy, you already know how he get down, especially with them feet. Amari Cooper, you know where he from. You know where them two from. Kadarius Honey has that same style, but he does offer a different dynamic. I believe also in a special teams realm

of things that he can do with kick return and punt return. So I think that would be a good place for him. Where else did he try? The Seahawks? Yeah, he had a bit to the Seahawks. I mean, you know, they got Lockett, they got DK, they got Smith and Jigba.

Jigba, oh shoot. Well, shoot, they got a three-headed muscle over there, Jigba Smithigba oh shoot they got a three headed monster in Jigba too was it Jackson Smith and Jigba J.D.N. or Jackson yeah Smith and Jigba

yeah man Smith and Jigba oh these names crazy so yeah I mean, I hope he lands. I think that sometimes I think sometimes

the best thing can happen to a player like a Kadarius Tony is the situation. To find himself on the outside looking in. It's amazing what a hungry stomach, what a growling stomach stomach and bills start to pile up it'll humble you it'll make you give you a different perspective on things yeah give you a

different perspective on things and understand how small the window of opportunity is that you do have to play the game that you do love the game game that you cherish and love to play and was always the childhood dream of yours. It gives you a better understanding. And my dog going to be all right. He going to get it right. When he gets that opportunity again and that door opens, Cadareous, I know you're going to see this.

When that door opens again, young boy, I need you to do me one favor. Close it behind you. Yeah. That's it. Close it behind you. Yeah. That's it. Close it behind you. Don't leave no thought

and no stern untone. Go in there and give a motherfucking hell, boy. Stone unturned. We get what you

were saying, though. Oh, my bad. My bad. You know, I ain't used that saying in a long time.

Yeah. If ever. All the same. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content,

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