Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Spain DEFEATS Argentina for WORLD CUP + Lou Dort HEADED to HAWKS

Episode Date: July 20, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Spain beating Argentina for World Cup and Lou Dort is headed to the Hawks! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction05:00 - Spain defeats Argentina37:00 - Lou Dort headed to the Hawks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in the 21st century. Spain World Cup wins. See them break the record for the longest unbeaten streak in international football history with 38 games without a loss. Farian Torres, named man of the match after his 106-minute goal to take a 1-0 lead. Argentina failed to muster a shot across 90 minutes. Emiliano Martinez, heroics kept Spain at bay.

The ran in champs, Los Enzo Fernandez. to a brainless second yellow card just before extra time at the 93 minutes. Temp afraid as the West Final whistle sparked the Spanish celebration. Leandro Padres, got a red card after the fight with Agave and Eric Garcia after the final whistle. 19 year old, six days. Yamal become the youngest ever to win both FIFA World Cup and Euros

beat Renato, beat Messi in the same World Cup. Yamal is the third young player to appear in a people world cup final behind pelee in nineteen fifty eight oh cho he was 17249 days in joseppe bergami of italy in nineteen eighty two he was 18 years in two hundred and one days oh cho yeah argentina just couldn't get anything on net but i got to get it and i'm going to let you take off and you take as long as you won't yes sir the argentine go the argentina golly yeah that joke was doing handstands in the day yeah even they should they should have like five or six goals, though, Joe. But he, hey, he's

doing his head. Yeah. Yeah. Emiliano Martinez played extremely well. He saved them. It should have been, what, four, maybe five goals. Yes. About the game. The fact that they had so many chances on goal and weren't able to get in until

the very end, he played phenomenal. He didn't get much help from his team. No. Do much as well. And congratulations to Spain. I know we probably have a lot of Spain fans in the chat as well.

Spain had an unbelievable run in the World Cup, Uncle. And their goal is well. Their goal is as well. Unai Simon, he had the most lead sheets by his single team in the FIFA World Cup ever. Listen to this real quick, Uncle Joe. Spain player, Cap Verdi, first game. No goals.

Spain, Saudi Arabia, no goals. Spain, Uruguay, no goals. Spain, Austria, Austria scored no goals. Spain and Portugal. Portugal scored no goals. Spain, Belgium. Belgium managed to get one. Spain, France, France, no goals. And obviously today, Spain and Argentina, no goals.

So they had one hell of a run in today's game. I don't know what was wrong. I have no idea what was wrong with France. I'm France, excuse me. Argentina. I have no idea, Joe, what was wrong? What do you mean? I mean, listen, I expected them get something.

Oh, Joe. They did. They got nothing and liked it. Hey, Spain was too. much bro. Yeah, yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, we're keeping it real Spain was a better team, bro. Yeah. And I mean, yes. Their defense just smothers you, bro. They, I mean, look, they only gave a one goal this whole world cup, bro. Listen, and then at the end of the day, Spain lived inside that penalty slash 18-yard box. Yeah, uh, uh, Arden, Tina. Hell, that's how they, that's how the goalie

was able to break the damn record. Okay, oh, Joe? Yes. They had to. If he don't break the record, That game is like, what is that? England and France, you might have 10 goals. They might be Argentina 10-0-0-0-0 if he's not doing handstands in the net. Hello. You know, another thing, defensively, Spain was really good, but I think they had possession of the ball, Joe, almost 70% of it. Oh, easy, easy.

They kept the ball away from Argentina. Argentina couldn't do nothing. They kept the ball away from Argentina so much when they did get the ball. they didn't really do anything with it. They played well as the team, collectively altogether, man. Congratulations to Spain. It was a good game. I'm kind of sad now.

The World Cup is gone. It's ended. And all we have right now on coming up, I think almost next week, I think Liverpool is in the States. Leeds is in the States. And now, you know, preseason for the Premier League is coming up. And soccer season starts in another two, three weeks. Yeah.

Yeah. I think the thing is that because like you mentioned, Ocho, Spain kept the ball so much is that when Argentina got it, they were out of sorts. And they were just turning over and give Spain credit. They're a rugged team. They're a defensive base team, but they put so much pressure on you. They kept the pressure on Argentina. Argentina go, he could not take a break.

And he got one in there, but they did everything they could. But they were cheating their ass off. Argentina grabbed that man from the back on you. That man, that didn't shoot that damn man. What the hell was? was there. The man healed the ball. Let him out a great lead. And then they're going to, man. And stop going to that replay trying to help messy out. Well, when they got that goal, man, I was so damn happy. I was like, Lord, boy, see, I could have got out here. You're talking

about the first goal, Nico Williams. Yeah. They took it back. They took it back. You know, Dale, that wasn't a damn penalty on Spain. Listen, they, they say he stepped on his foot. You knew how, you know how that. Come on, man. Ocho, I ain't got eyes in the back of my damn man hell he behind me i'm out of the head step on his foot as a matter of fact i might have put it in his face i don't know damn i'm not i'm not a conspiracy theorist you know yes you are listen the the the the the ruffing in argentina's favor it was funny looking in the light especially when they played egypt you know it was it was funny looking today there was some questionable calls i'll see enzo fernandez getting his red card there's no reason you know you can

get to that ball. Right. So she had a red card. That would, that would justify. That was justified. You have to know. What about the man? What about Spain's elbow joint?

The man elbow joint was over the line, Ocho. I can see if he had a foot. The man, the man, I've seen people have tongues. The man, elbow joint, Ocho. That was all. Yeah, that's the rule, though, on. Nothing, nothing can be over the line.

They consider it not only all sides, but Joe, like in basketball, you cherry picking. Yeah. Everybody on one. and playing and you stay on the other end and if your team get the real, they just throw you the ball down now. You've heard the chaos.

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And they did all they could. You mentioned how they host Egypt. Now, Egypt, they don't got the ball and said, oh, he interfered with the man. He's been feeling it. That man, they dribble all the way down the damn field. The dribbled three or four people almost got hit by a car. A bomb went off and boom. He kicked out of time.

We got, oh, hell, nah. Stop all that. I was glad they got the ass toe up. Cause they've been cheap for him. Oh Joe, you, everybody knew this was messy last World Cup. Yeah. Everybody wanted to send him out on that white horse. Yes.

And no, no, the soccer guard said, hell till the no, we're not going to do that. You know what the funny. No hell where that man cheated. But, hey, that was a great match. You know what I want to say too also? What you want to say? It's even if Messi didn't get the. fairy tale ended that all of us would want to see no you know I ain't want to see that

was he'll know with him being considered obviously the greatest of all time nothing changes with his legacy it's he meant he he still arguably probably the greatest player to ever play this game I I hate using the word goat because we know how I feel about Cristano but again messy is the greatest gift ever given to the beautiful game hey but if he if he if he would if they would have if Argentina would have won Ocho. What would that have? You'd have been by yourself.

I don't even know a messy kid. Well, you in speed because ain't you and speed, ain't nobody going to convince y'all that messy not to go. You speed his kid that his wife, Georgiana. Y'all are all in five. That's right with,

that's right with a Ronaldo. But messy, messy, he did have an unbelievable run, Ocho. I mean, eight goals, fours, I think he had four or five assists.

And Boppa ends up winning the golden boot. But man, they were doing too much, oh, They were doing way too much. They were doing way too much for Argentina. Ever since the damn quarterfinals, they're like, Argentina is getting to the damn finals.

By hook or crook. They wanted Argentina to win. Hell yeah. Damn, just getting that. That's what them calls were so bad. I ain't going to lie, Ocho. I'll watch them. I'm like, damn, hold on, bro.

You know, it's some, hey, hey, it's some things that go on out there on their field that you can't control and the flopping and all. I'm like, but I'm like, oh, hell, dude couldn't see buddy behind him. How in the way he step on his feet? He's making it seem like, Ocho, like he stepped back. He's doing, he's doing what he normally does. He healed the ball a great pass.

I'm talking about great. Really good pass, yeah. And you took that away. That would have been, that would, that would be by far. And they've been some great goals scored in the World Cup. That have been the greatest, Ocho. The man healed the ball with a perfect lead. Oh, man.

Yeah. I say, come on. I'm up there celebrating. I'm like, because I needed, I need it. I needed the game to end so President Trump can hand that damn trophy out and get his ass back on Marine 2 and get on the potter so we can leave because they weren't letting nothing up and down because he was at the game, up the airspace, huh? Yeah.

Hold on. Y'all was still at the airport all this time? Yeah. Yeah. We got, first of all, we got stuck yesterday because New York flooded. And I knew we was in trouble as we're going to the airport. Ocho, we're 10 minutes from the airport. Right.

She had to look at me, the counselored our flight. I said, you got to be kidding me. Yeah. Hey, well, hold on a while time out. They canceled your flight. Yesterday. Both of y'all? Yes, we're on the same flight.

Why y'all ain't called me to hang out? Man, Ocho, you couldn't come down there. The car was flooded. I mean, you all see the cars underwater headed to the airport. Underwater? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, snap.

Yes. Okay. And then, Ocho, so today we're in the airport. I said, man, I'm tired of this. I said, hey, Shelly called the guy for the private jet. Shelly hit him. I said, I don't care what it calls. Damn.

Oh, Joe. He said, how many passages? I said, me, Shelley. I said, telling me, you, Jordan, and Joe, Joe, Johnson. Okay, he's like, yeah, I know Joe. But anyway, he called back. He said, give me 10 minutes. I call you back.

Yeah. An hour and 30 minute for it. What's up? 45,000. I said, Shelly, hang the phone up. Oh, if you say, you don't care how much it comes? cost. Hey, first of all, we're going to have to drive. We were in Newark. So we're going to have the Uber back to East Islet, which is two hours, which was a $500 Uber, a $500, a $500 ride.

We had just paid $500 for a ride to get to Newark. So we're going to take a $500 ride back to East Islip to take the private jet out and then pay $45,000 for 90 minutes. You know what, Ocho? If we were going back to the West Coast, if we were going back to the West Coast, if we're going back to If we're going back to New York, I say, all right, Joe, let's go. Hey, we can. I say, hey, I sit right there. I say I sleep in this airport. Oh, you know what?

I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. Damn that. Damn that. Hey, all you had to do with, hit me with chop that little 45 up, man. Me and you chopped that 45 up here. We would have been home yesterday. Oh, well, hey, I know that now.

I don't say, hey, don't, don't threat me. All right. Because I throw that fantastic plastic down in a minute. I'm proud. I'm proud of both of y'all, man. I'm proud. To hell, the hell you say. Understanding the value of a dollar. Huh?

You hear me? That's $45,000 that can go to something much more important than getting back home. Hey, I had something in mind, too. I had told Jordan. Because I had told, I said, Jordan, I guess what I was going to get, I guess I ain't going to get it now. He's like, you can do both for them. I say, no hell I can.

If either a, hey, boy, get, cheddar chips or the soda, you ain't getting both. So it's going to be either or. Man, I was like, ah, nah. And, man, we got to the airport. And as we get to the airport, they push the flight back 15 minutes. Wow. I said, oh, man, President Trump. And then President Trump didn't want to lead the stage.

They're trying to grab the man by the arm. He's trying to shake it. They're like, President Trump, okay, you're already putting the medals on people and shook everybody by the hand. You got to lead the stage. Man, President Trump up there doing all this. He's waving. You're America. You're not a Spanish.

Hello. Get your ass off the stage, Mr. President. Hello. Hey, listen, y'all should have called me now. Y'all should have called me. I'm telling you, I can- Oh, Joe, you couldn't have got to where we were. No, I don't know where Joe stayed,

because we ended up staying out there by the airport. Right. And Shelly got the last, shelly got the last two rooms. The last two rooms. Or we're gonna be stuck like Chuck. Right, I'm talking about being stuck part of the airport. Now, you know, I got people I can call. You know, me and Marco Rubio, you know, we're from the career.

We both in Florida. What do you mean? What he ain't gonna do that in Jersey? But you don't understand the kind of power The Secretary of State guy, don't do that. Hey, I got you. Next time. I'll stay in the airport.

I'm good. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to y'all. I ain't even know that was legal in New York. I ain't know the gas. The gas was legal in New York. Okay, Ocho. What you mean gas, Joe? The marijuana.

Yeah, that gas. I ain't know, I ain't know it was legal in New York. Yeah, it's legal. Yeah, Joe, you smoke? Huh? You smoke? Do he? fat meat greasy.

Hey, Hey, Joe, you can tell me that I'll make you no bad brother if you do. Hey, listen, hey, let's just say this. I relaxed yesterday and today until I flight, you know what I mean? Hey, Jay's like, I called it. I say, hey, Joe, we're in there, we're in the Sky Club. And you know, come on up here. He's like, yeah, you know, I'm in a bar right now.

I'll see y'all in a second. Get what we see, Joe. When we board the plane. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. I said at the bar. I said I was in G-pop.

I said that the bar, man, had me a couple of drinks. Had me a little sandwich or something. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I chilled out, man. I watched the game. Boy, it was going crazy out there. Why was that? You heard me?

Everybody was for Spain. I think there might have been one person for Argentina, but everybody from Spain. Everybody just wanted to see some... Actually, I think everybody just wanted to see somebody score a goal. So the President Trump can hand that damn trophy out. He can get his ass back on Marine too. And head on back up out of him.

That's what they were really hoping for it. And the actuality. But you know what, Joe, I didn't think about it. Because I know I've been in a situation where people have let me have a ride and I know they spent a ton of money. It's like, man, Sharp, I'm going that way. You can just hop a ride. Yeah.

And so, you know, it didn't even really dawn on me because it really wasn't no thing. But I was like, man, 45. I said, damn. Well, we chopped 22 and a half. We have chopped it up. Easy. It's done. Hey, as a matter of fact, I still got a one-way flight,

through him from five, six years ago, I haven't used yet. Damn. How far? How far? Like 300 miles? Four hundred miles? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm glad. I'm going to save it for a rain today. Yeah, I do that. I'm glad you spend that money, though, man. You know, I know it's only 22. Yeah, but I don't think we could have got out yesterday, George.

I don't think they were letting out yesterday. Today, today, today, today, because they canceled, they started canceling everything. I was like, she was still good. I fly, you know, she's all happy everything. I was like, Shalette, how they canceling every fight in front of us, every flight after us, and you think we're gonna get out? What's special about us?

The president ain't gonna be on our flight, I promise you. Lo and behold, we get like 10 minutes from the airport. It's starting to rain, I mean, it's raining hard and harder, and then the thing that red, you see that red alert come up, cancel. And now we start, and we started to go even further,

they didn't divert the traffic because the interstate's flooded. They got cars underwater, Ocho. Hey, when it rained hard like that, what did they say God up there doing? When it rained hard like that? I guess he's crying because, uh,

because he wasn't going to let me get home. It was raining hard yesterday, Ocho. Yeah, I ain't seen it rain like that. I ain't seen the rain like that. Last time I saw it rained like that, they had to flooding in California when I first got out there.

And it rained like that and everybody know had to, end up having the mud slides up in Santa Barbara and Montecito. That was the last time I see the rain like that. Yeah. Yeah, I was not now. I missed all that.

Yeah, we was in the airport for a minute today, boy. We was in there for a minute, Ocho. I ain't going to lie, because they kept delaying. I said, oh, man, they're going to cancel our damn flight. But I'm going to be sick to. By the time, unc told me about the private flight here. We was in the line of board. Yeah.

Yeah, shit. I was what? Boy, we shot that 22, five so quick. No, no, don't say. Yeah, yeah. Ocho. And we got stuff. Ocho, Ocho, you just told me, you say, oh, you're alive, but you ain't living.

I was going to live. Yeah. Hello. Listen, you're going to get home regardless and spend it 22, 5 just to get home a little faster than normal. Yeah. And get the people. And get a people. And because they're mad.

I said, see, this is why I really had the ad read. Because in the live show yesterday. So Ocho and so I can get home, Joe and I can get home. Because we got, okay. We holding. up Ocho. Ocho ready to go. I don't like hauling Ocho up. Bro, we were the first, we were the first ones to get up yesterday, Ocho. My flight was at, flight was at three o'clock yesterday, man.

I was a bit home, bro. Yeah. I just walked in the dough at 1145. Oh, the night. Yes. I jumped straight on, man. I had to take me a shower. I can't do nothing but I take it a shower. I don't care where I go. I'm taking the shower. brush my teeth, brush my hair, oil, my beard and everything. I'm going to go now. Hey, Joe, you ain't getting no trouble, huh, being late, huh? Oh, man, come on, man, you know I'm Gucci over here. Man, stop playing with me.

I had, I had Shelly called. I had Shelly called, Locho. Hey, um, hey, um, hey, he don't run the house. He's run around the house. Yeah, he do. But Shelly called. Shelly, shelly, the buffer. Shelly, you know, yeah, Shelley calling, like, you know,

the flight and laid and everything like that. So, Joe, he'll be late. Chad, what the boy think it is, Chad? I don't want to mess up you, your opportunity to come to Houston with. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, once we don't got to, once we didn't got the permission slip, we'll forge the rest of them. Hold on. Chat, chat, let me tell y'all how immature arc is.

Chad, let me tell you. We're on the plane. Just so happening, I'm sitting directly across from him, Ocho. Yeah. You know, soon when we get on the plane, I'm tired. you know mentally i'm drained because we've been in the airport all damn day so the first thing i want to do get me some shut-eye you hear me yeah i'm trying to go to sleep i'm put my hood on i'm lean my little chat back just a little bit not too much to where she had come you know what i mean right this man though he didn't hit his little beat i said damn i said damn would you hit that for you know what's gonna tell you want to drink i say yeah i said there you must want something to drink

He's saying now I'm gonna tell you got your damn seat lady back I'm like damn Oh Joe check did the lady came over he damn show told on me too I'm like damn hey y'all better be lucky y'all don't fly with me so you know every every flight I'm on you know I asked the as the stewardess if we could do karaoke before we leave and they always let me get up the mic even though it's uh not f a is a f a f a Yes. Yeah, before we take off, I do a little karaoke with first class. She ain't, she ain't letting you do that.

They would. They would. No, we're not to let you do it. Hey, Joe, hey. And I say, I asked the flight attendant, I said, what's our motto? Safety is our number one priority. He's right, you know. Hey, Chad, he ain't lying.

I'm probably. And I said, hey, I say, and his seatbelt. I said, he just got to lay across his lap. You might want to listen, listen. The whole time why he's telling him on me, Ocho, whole seatbelt laying on the damn flow. She said, what about your seatbelt? Hey.

Hey, Ojo, Joe, Joe was over there sleep? I touched him. I said, oh, man, my bad. I thought you wanted something. I thought I heard you called. I thought I heard you called my name. Hey, hey, Ocho, what do they do that? I would have poured water on Joe, huh?

Hey, Joe, what? You did have done what? They kicked us off the damn flight, too. Because me and you would have had a Royal Roambo now. Hey, they'd kick this up. Hey, damn. Hey, you'd have at WWE again? But Royal Rob.

They just had it last ladder. And decided out of Madison Square Guard. Uh, he'd have touched every seat in first class. I promise you. His little last would touch every seat in first class. Hold on, I'm a joke. They're going to put us on the no-fly list. Yeah, I don't give a damn.

I don't give a damn. You got to go to another airline. I don't give a damn. Hey. But man, that was the longest. And when I work with CBS, you got to think about it, man. I went there every, I went for 10 straight years. I would go in 19 to 20 weeks.

And I only got delayed one time. Damn. Got snow every time. Because I always catch the 9 o'clock flight. So I was flying. I started out early because, you know, figured the beats of it out. But then I just started flying in Saturday.

I would go straight to the meeting, drop my bags off, go straight to the meeting, do that, come back, and then we do the show on Sunday, and then I go straight to the airport from the studio. Now on the 9 o'clock flight, I'm back, I'm in my bed. I'm in my bed after I was in the shower by midnight. I am.

I got delayed one time. One time. And here I'm in New York, you're having, and got delayed again. You know my son, I called my son, she said, well, God didn't want you to get home. I said, that's what he didn't want me to get home, huh? Okay.

Hello. Hello. That's how you got to look at it. I ain't got no choice. I can't, hey. I was like, but hey, if I don't know, I'd say, hey, Joe, they got, they got, they got, they got a citation 10. Yeah.

That'll get us there. Well, we'd have been right on. It probably wouldn't have been that expensive yesterday, Joe. But because this last, it was like back, back up today. And to get up out because they weren't letting anything come up to East Coast. If you're coming in from this direction and you don't have. have to fly over, you're straight. Yeah, yeah.

But I'll play, you know, planes coming from Atlanta plane, and I play from Philly. And ain't no way you can get around it. Right. Boy, I'm so glad when they say, oh, well, our plane is backing out. Our plane's on the runway. I said, let me know when he'd get halfway here.

Hey, Chad, I ain't see none of that. Ocho, I was sleep for we even start taxiing backwards. I will sleep. Yeah, Joe, you were tired, huh? Yeah, man, yeah. Yeah, come on, man. How do you sleep on the plane? You can't sleep?

Don't sleep on the plane? Mm-mm. Hey, I might doze off before we get up, but, hey, once they're talking about, hey, I feel that plane starting moving, I'm wide away. But why is that, though? Because I'm going to whip somebody

trying to get up in that cockpit. I promise you. He ain't going to touch every seat in first class. He's going to touch every seat in the whole plane. I'm going to mop the. the flow with him. Oh, hey, you start. You scar.

Oh, yeah. After what happened in 2000? Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah. I say, Lord, please don't put me on no flight with somebody trying to open up the door and doing all that kind of stuff. Cause I'm a boy, look here.

I'm gonna beat the brakes on him. Yeah. Hey, I'm feed, because listen, like I told you in Ocho, hell, I was on the plane during 9-11, bro. I was headed that way. Right. Yeah. So, hey, I'll be nervous too.

Hey, look, I'll be watching everybody. I'll be people watching. I do too. I can't even help. I'm sorry if I'm staring at you too hard, but hell, I have to check everybody out who's sitting next to me, man. Yeah.

For real. And I'm looking, what I'm doing is I'm trying to, I'm trying to imagine how much force am I going to have to exert? I mean, am I trying to subdue it? Or put him to sleep or her? Or I'm trying to just like, okay, hey, come on and get it. Put the towel over.

Put the sheet over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I know what you mean, boy. Hey, I don't, when I get on that plane, Uncle Joe, I'm gone. Three hour flight, two hour flight, hour flight. My eyes go. My ass's, I normally tell the pilots,

you hold it down up here. I got this back here. All right, Mr. Sharp, we're going to hold you to that. You bet you believe, hold me to it. Hold me to it. And don't divert. You keep going. Don't divert.

Can you, hey, I've been on plane that's diverted, had medical emergencies or something like that. Right. Oh, Lord. No, sir. Well, they had to turn their thing around and land, you, you, you, one of them. Man, I don't been on a plane. Well, they weren't your drivers, they wasn't going to take us,

they didn't take us to, uh, we're supposed to be going to Baltimore. But anyway, something happened and they diverted us to Richmond. Man, hey, some people like, hey, we got a car. You want to ride? Yep. Sign me up. Yep, I want a ride. So I rolled with them from Richmond and Baltimore.

Damn. How long that year? It wasn't that long, Ocho. They were like maybe like two hours. Ooh. I think maybe, might have been a little longer. Ocho, I, see, that was before I asked God to give me patience. You work with me with my patience.

Yeah. Because now, you know, I'll think about it. Like, okay, let me see. Because I can't run through no airport. I see people running to the airport try to catch that connection. Bro, if it ain't the next gate over, I'm stuck like Chuck. How you stuck? I don't really do no connections, though.

I try my best not do connections. I always show, man. I never like me. But here is the thing, though, Ocho, but what if you late? Sometimes the flight get delayed. Oh, no, I'll show up. I'd be at the airport, but then there two hours early for no reason, because I like to eat at the airport. You like Shelley?

Yeah, I like to eat at there. We don't got an airport. They say the thing is going to take us somewhere between 65 and 75 minutes. Right. We leaving at 4.30. Shelly calling me. I'm in the room. Her and Jordan done downstairs.

She's calling me. Let's go. She's 1220. She's blowing my phone up. I know it's her. I ain't going to my bag to get this here. What took you so long? I said, Shelly, you said 1230.

It is 1220. Well, he's been down here. He's making fun. $500, I might make it wait till 1 o'clock. The hell? We get to the airport. We get to the airport. It takes like 63 minutes to get to the airport. So we leave at 12.30, 1.30.

Flight leaving at 429. Oh, guess what? Oh, not a flight leaving at 515. Not a flight leaving at 630. Not a flight leaving at 703. Not a flight leaving at 820. Not a flight leaving at 9 a damn clock. So we've been, yeah, come on, man. I know you were hot.

My flight, my flight lead tomorrow at 3.30. I'd probably get to the airport. So now, we're in line at Clear. Why the line isn't moving? Shally, do you see all these people?

Unfortunately, we weren't the only ones delayed yesterday. I guarantee you, they had their flights canceled, and they were delayed also. Well, I said, well, you go right ahead. Because the guy told us,

because we have touchless, you got clear, you got touchless, all that. He said because you went through the clear, if you want to go through touchless, you got to go back out and read back in. I said, I wish I might. I wish I might. Oh, this line isn't moving. What did she wait on? She's waiting on the guy to tell her to step forward. That's what she's waiting on. I said, you'll be standing all those people heels, breathe on the damn neck. When somebody shoot your elbow in the throat, you man.

Hey, it was thinking of people. It was thick in there now. Yeah, man, Joe. Joe, we got there. And you know, Chad, I promise you, Shelly has less patience than me. You can ask George about this. And y'all already know my patience.

I'm like a one. Shelly's a zero. She only got no patience. Zero. And then it's like, what's taking so long? And say, Shelly,

you'll see all these people, you make it seem like, they're supposed to just, Hey, you go ahead and put your bag up there, ma'am. We're going to hold hours to yours go through, and then we'll put hours once you get through on the other side. Hell, they're putting their bags up on that, too. Boy, she was over today.

I said, you know what? I got a trick for you. Hey, I bet I threw my bag up there and shoved that thing, that line, and went on through there. I said, man, I ain't speaking to you until I get to the Sky Club because you're going to make me losing it here. Man, she was the old one, Joe, man. Hey, hey, needless to say, man, I had a good thing.

time in New York, boy. Hey, I appreciate y'all for that one, boy. Yeah, yeah. Roman Rains, Jaylen Brunson. Hey, I appreciate y'all. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that thing was nice. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, wait, wait, wait, we, uh, you know, wait, we start hitting that, them live tour. Tell them, mocho. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's where it's a lot, man. Oh, yeah, all right.

All right. I can't wait. But you bet it was, it was an adventure, man. I don't, who, it was. Yeah, that it was. Dope. Man, listen, when y'all left, I ain't leave Fanatics Fest about 730. I know, man.

I've been seeing clips of you all damn day. I said, yeah. I don't know how you do that, Ocho. Yeah, you know, I had to work now. I had, you know. Hey, make that money. I ain't mad at you. Yeah.

Hey, you know, we got vacation coming up, taking all the kids somewhere. You know, so I had to get there a little bit of that. I need all that. You had to get your ducks in order, huh? You hear me? I'm slump. Yeah, I get you. I get you.

Must be nice. I sure wish I could do some of that stuff. But I'm gonna need some, but I'll let your boy, now, you know, I'm up, boy, I'm up now. I know you up, you up, you up. Yeah, you know, God is good. And who'd say that? And when you up and it's up and it's up,

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Lou Dohert is heading to Atlanta in a three-way deal that sends former number one pick, Zachary Richard, to the Mavericks. Atlanta gets Lou Dohert, Ryan Nimhard, Dallas get Richar, and OKC gets three second-round picks. Joe, are you?

You surprised that Atlanta will cut bait on the 2024 number one overall pick so soon. Richard is only 21 years of age and could still turn into a productive NBA player someday. He was bitched by Quinn Snyder in the playoffs because of Jonathan McKiminger was clearly a better option. Instead of gambling on Richard's development and upside, while the $31.3 million he's owed over the next two seasons sits on the cap sheet of Atlanta Hawks, basketball operation, uh, Sala, Ansi Sala, decided to exchange him for Lou Dort. Dort shot 38% from the floor last season and will become a restricted free agent in the summer if Atlanta does not sign him to an extension.

Actually, it's called Re, Re, Rizache. Rich Rishishet, okay. Rishishay. Yeah, nah, hey, look, I'll go, Joe. I ain't surprised, man. You know, obviously sometimes things just don't work out, bro. Right. You know, when you look at it, Risha Shay is a great talent.

I still think, you know, his upside will be pretty good. It's just when you get that number one pick, when you're that number one pick, bro, that shit way heavy. You can never live that. Oh, Joe, we talked about it, Joe. You can never live down your draft slot. You can't, you can't. And so I think what they're trying to build in Dallas, he'll probably fit.

And hopefully he comes around and he reaches his potential playing with Cooper Flag. I still think he'll be a pretty good plan. Yeah, and Kyrie. I still think he'll be a pretty good player in this league. It's just, damn, when you look at him as a number one pick, you know what I mean? You just look like, oh, man, you know what I mean? But I think when he fell out of rotation during the season and then in the playoffs, he started getting DMPs.

You know what I'm saying? So the right. Yeah, the right one was on the wall. It's like, you know, he probably obviously still had a little value. And Atlanta used it, bro, and was able to bring in Lou Dork and Lut Ninhardt from, from the Dallas Mavericks. You know, his brother, his brother played for the Pacers. Yes.

Now, Nimhart, he ain't as big as his brother, but he feisty. He tough. You know what I mean? Hell, I think he did, what, three, four years in college, if I ain't mistaken. So he's a guy who plays, I thought he played well above itself as a rookie last season. So I think he'll be a great addition for the Hawks. But, hey, man, the Hawks got a little dork. We got some dogs over here, okay, Ocho.

Hey. Well, I'm not surprised by this. I'm not going to be, I'm going to, you're because they've already. gotten rid of Isaiah Joe, now they got rid of Dort who's, you know, they picked up his option and moved him. I'm not, I'm going to be, I'm going to be really surprised of Kaysson Wallace because he's made it clear.

He doesn't, I mean, Joe, when guys play really well, it's a, Brunson. And I'm not saying he can go and be what Bronson became from the Knicks. But when you get your opportunity and he shows what he can do, Jalen Brunson got his opportunity, Luca got injured.

He played out of his damn mind. And you start to think, well, if he gets his own team or he goes somewhere where he's a focal point, he might can do something. Case of Wallace showed you. Case of Wallace says, hey, bro, y'all never going to let me, bro, I'm going to be fourth.

No matter how you look at it, I'm going to be fourth. You got Shay, you got J. Dub, you got Chet. Now you got Jared McLean. You got a J.I. Mitchell. Yeah. Excuse me, AJ Mitchell. Yeah. So when is it going to be my run?

Let me go somewhere. I can be at least two, maybe three. They just were too guard and forward heavy. Okay, Ocho. Yes. And this is the price you have to pay when you're a good team and you draft well and you develop guys. Great.

You got to get off some of them damn guys, man. You do. This is what's going to, we're going to continue to see this. You look at the spurs and what they're dealing with. That second apron. Yeah, that's second apron. Yeah, they don't want to have to, hey, they want to stay away from that. Yes.

And I'm not saying, go ahead, Joe. You look at OKC, they cut the tax bill from 102 million, Uncle Ocho, to 19.6 million. You know what I mean? So that just shows you alone, bro, that teams in this league, especially the good teams, the salary cap is going to hurt them, bro. You got to get off these players. Yeah.

And it is a situation, Joe, you know what? Even at winning. Because they're just, they're only a year removed from winning the championship. Right. That's still too much money. It is. It's not, it ain't worth it. And I'm not saying case of Wallace can be Jalen Brunson,

but he don't want to be no fifth or sixth option because he's shown you he's more than capable of being a second or a third option at worse. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, I mean, who wants to be, oh, Cho? I mean, I show you what I can do. The number one receiver gets hurt. I come in and I fill in for him and I go get me up at 1,200 yards.

Man, you think I want to go back to be a second option? You think I want to go back to be a third option? Third option, I've shown you that I'm more than capable. People don't get it. It's easy for you to say that because you look at it from a distance. But sometimes you've got to put yourself in some white of shoes. And Joe, you've been there. You know what it was like.

Joe, like, man, I can't keep. Hey, I love Big Phoenix. But, bro, I'm going to be behind Amari. I'm going to be behind Steve Nash. I'm going to have Q. I'm going to be behind. Sean Marion. Sean Marion.

Bro, let me go somewhere I can be at worst case number two option. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you think about it, man. The Thunder, man, Sam Presley, bro. We got to give him more credit. I mean, think about it. They didn't receive, what, three seconds. They got over seven second round picks, you know, throughout this whole summer, bro. Like, they loaded. They're going to stay loaded with talent because how they produce talent, how they, how they, how they, how they, how they draft. They got kind of like R.C. Buford in San Antonio. Yeah. Yeah. So look. So instead. of declining Lou Dors, 17.7 million, Uncle Ocho, they saved money by trading him and getting all these assets. See, they can, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, so instead of just declining it and be, I guess, letting him play, they're like, damn, man, we'll pick it up and then we'll trade him. We'll get assets for him. We'll be able to get assets for him, and that's kind of what they've done. You know, you're not sometimes you go throw stuff away. It has some value to somewhere.

Hey, take it to goodwill and get a tax right off. Take it to the Salvation Army, get an tags right off. Don't just gear it away. Yeah. You know it's funny. Most of the time, obviously, maybe the NBA might be different, but everything is a copycat league in the NFL. When teams or owners see something that works, most of the time, if they

don't have ego and they can set their pride aside, they copy what other teams do. I'm not sure why other teams don't copy the Spurs formula or copy the Thunder's formula on how they not only acquire talent, but also develop talent, so you can keep moving and stay underneath that apron.

in a sense the same way. Well, I think the fake, but still, you're still gonna come available because guess what you got? You got Chet, you got J-dub, and you got Shea. Now, in a couple of years, she's gonna be back up.

She's gonna be over 400. Not what you do. Ooh. A Jay Mitchell gonna wanna get paid too. Now he got paid, he got two, I think he got a three-year deal. So what happened in a couple of years? Case of Wallace is already saying, man,

I need my bread. Yeah. You just, they, they don't look, When this thing became available, it's just like what we talk about all the time, Mocho, with the CBA. Y'all know what was in the CBA. Y'all sign it because you feel you have to

because you can't miss any checks. Well, now in the process of rushing, because you can't miss any checks, you sign a bad deal. Yeah. Now, all of a sudden, you, hey, yeah, yeah, but you meant no, no, no. It's too late.

Name on the contract. It's certified. Look, I know y'all They got the lawyers like they got. They got lawyers. See, lawyers see, the thing is when you want them on high-priced lawyers, oh, take it for your boy. I know. They're being in six-minute increments. Six-minute increments. They charge a, you know, 1,500, $2,500 an hour.

But they bill you in six-minute increments. Yes. So you think, hey, no, I'm a good listener. Nah, bro, you already have told me that. Yeah, we're good. We're going to something else. Yeah, you already told me that. Ain't no double talking.

Hell no. Ain't no double talking. Mm-mm. Hey. And if you put it, hey, don't text me. Yeah, I got it. You put it to the group chat.

Yeah, I got it. Yeah. Hey, do you need to talk about anything? No, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day,

when you look at it, Lou Dort, Isaiah, Joe, Aaron Wiggins. So the Hawks got Aaron Wiggins and Lou Dort from a championship team at O'K. Now, although, you know, for whatever reason, well, obviously, salary cap reasons, they wouldn't, they, they was not as valuable for OKC.

But guess what? They're going to be some hell of good additions for these, for some other teams, bro. You know what I like? What's that? In the contract year. Blue doors of the contract year. Yeah. They're going to pay him over there.

Wait, they're going to be able to see over that, Joe. What did you say? They're going to be able to pay them over there in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. You know, winning, if you win, you get paid, Ocho. If they don't resign, if they got 40 million in cap space, but you got guys that can compete on the defensive end. You got Dyson Daniels.

That was an all-NBA selection of defense. Yeah. Lou Dork was first team. You got a Nikiel Alexander Walker. You got guys that can defend because, look, office is great. But if you look at the situation, when the rubber needs to meet the road, you got to get some stops somewhere. Got to get some stops.

And I ain't going to lie. You got to have some guys. who's going to make shots. That's the only thing that worries me about Lou Dork. Not necessarily Lou Dork, because I think you're going to get a lot of wide open looks, Uncle Ocho, considering the fact that I think this past year, he probably averaged about 5.53s a game shooting at probably about 38, 39 percent. He got to bump that up a little bit, you know, try to get into the early 40s because you're going to get so many wide open looks and Coach Quinn, this is what they preach, bro. You, it's the offense is designed, you know,

obviously through Jalen Johnson who creates so much attention, but he's a willing passer, Uncle Ocho, hell. I think he, what? How many of this? I think he had like seven. He had like seven and eight years. Because he wasn't far behind Yokens when they come to a triple double a game. So I say that to say this, you bring them guys over, bro.

They're going to get great looks. We just need them to defend, play hard. Amen. I know I told y'all, I told y'all the wizards could make the biggest jump in the Eastern Conference. Hey, my damn Hawks ain't. Yeah. They got, this is a great situation. I think the thing is that, Ocho, you ask the questions, why can't they do?

Because everybody can't select players. They fall in love with names. Yeah. A lot of times the people that you hear that them draft, you're like, who? You're like, Tony Parker, model Genoblee, Kuwaiter, Kuala Lederd. Jaylon Williams. Jaylon Williams. They get named.

Ain't all these fancy. you know, all this and all that and play out of year, none of that. They develop well, though. Yeah. That's going to fit their system that's going to come in, ain't going to buck the system. Right. Understand the hierarchy, the play.

You, hey, look, Pop going to be in there. Pop going to always have say in there. You got to understand, Pop is old school. He ain't what he once was as far as being able to get around and do things like that, but his imprint's going to be on there. And he's going to be able to walk in. to a meeting and he's going to be at practice and say when you bulljabing and tell you you need to do better.

Get good or get gone, son. Ooh. Hey, when you go to a great team like that, though, you don't have no choice but to fall in. Absolutely. Because the best players are leading by example, Uncle Ocho, and it's just a great environment for a young cat to come into and wants to know what it's like to be a pro. I mean, let's keep it 100. Hell, it's Oklahoma City, bro.

It ain't a whole hell of a lot that going on that you're going to get into. You know what I mean? It's just like, I'll be honest, but it's just like playing in Utah. Hey man, I had a blast playing in Utah. You know, it ain't a whole hell of a lot to do at night. So you be locked in, you know what I mean? Right. And I think that's kind of what it is at OKC.

Because remember, Greg Popoviv is they traded George Hill. They traded George Hill to select Kauai. Everybody's like, what you, why would you do that? Oh, that's why. Okay. That's why. You know, Tim Duncan is a no-brainer. He was the consensus number one player in the country.

He stayed all four years. So it's easy to select the Tim Duncan. Go get me a Tony Parker. Go get me a Manu Janobli. Go get me a Kawhi Leonard. Now you impressing me. Hello, because I've never seen Kawhi play in college. I ain't going to lie to y'all.

And I'm a basketball junkie over here. I ain't seen him. No. And now look at it. Get into the first year, he's a little green, worked on that jumper. They get beat, his rookie year, they get beaten the finals by the,

they come back, lose game seven. You know, hey, he missed those, missed that, what, free throw. They kept missing one. Make one miss one, gave the heat of opportunity. They lose in seven. Come back,

Kauai Finals MVP in the second year. Now, Tim Duncan retires, Now he got the mentality. Oh, my team, I ain't got to defer out. They need more for me. Now all of a sudden he gives you 25. Now he's giving you 25 points a night.

He gives you 24, 25 points a night. And he's playing outstanding defense, back to back defensive player of the year. Before that injury, he wouldn't, I mean, they're talking about, oh, he the best too. It wasn't nobody close to Kauai as far as being a two-way player. It wasn't nobody close. Nah.

He was special. Before the injury started taking his toll on his body, Joe. Yeah. Bro, you see what he did with his healthy this year. Career high points. He was nice. He has to prove his three ball, his midi, being turned around or going left or right.

Automatic. What choir average this year? Like 26, I think. Yeah, yeah. Boy, bawling, man. Balling like a dog, Katie. The one thing I said about Kauai, and I know a lot of people harp on them,

as far as like, you know, sitting out games, not playing. But damn it, when he do play Arcan Ocho, that boy cut up, man. And when you look at him, he's always, he always looks like he in great shape. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he cut his chisel. Yeah, you don't never see him really out of shape. So for me, for a guy who played in the lead for quite some time, bro,

and I see that, like, I know you're doing something different. Because I ain't no spring chicken no damn old. Real now. No. I think the thing is, Joe, you know, you see what a guy you're like, man, he got a chance. And he's, look, he's a top 75 player. So ain't no, you know, I'm so, I mean, you know, you're talking about a guy that's a two-time defensive player of the year. He's a two-time league, a two-time finals MVP with two different teams.

Yeah. You know, that once upon a time, that meant something. And, you know, he goes to the clip with him when a third one, that was going to say something. And then somebody else went somewhere and went a third one. And all of a sudden, it don't mean as much it. You know what I'm talking about, Joe. You know exactly what I'm talking about. I got you.

I got you. I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Kauai, man, I'm talking about he could take the best team player until Zazaar Bacheet shot slid his foot up on his ankle on that jump shot. And he came down on the Golden State. Cause, but they, look, one thing about Pop, no matter how good your team is, Pop going to find a way to solve it.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, I'm telling y'all, Popping you're letting you go on no damn run. You go, you score two buckets in a row, Ocho, a four-old run, timeout, time out, time out. Hey, you remember he started the game? He hacked to start the game,

and look, that shake and talked about. Yeah, Popping, you get no momentum, bro. He ain't let you get no momentum, hell no. Man, Pop, I said, come on. How do you start the game with a foul? And he's so, he too respected, okay, Ocho. Some dudes, please. They run through a brick wall for him, bro.

Yep. I can definitely see that. But I'm just waiting to see what, you know, everybody talking about, LeBron and him holding it up and going and so we can find out where, you know, set the schedule. I think people are just as interested as what's going to happen with Kauai. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. If this deal going to go through or not?

Right. Is the deal going to go through? Is he going to face a suspension? Or the clip is going to face a suspension? There's another big name out there that hadn't been signed. James Hardin. Are the Cavaliers waiting to see what LeBron's going to do? Mm.

Before they bring James Hardin back on, Cho, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Because he opted out there. Hold on, hold on. Because if I'm James, I ain't opting out my damn contract unless I know for sure. I got a verbal agreement, something written. I got to have something up. Yeah.

Hey, especially after they did him in Philly. Remember how they did him in Philly? he told him the guy was going to take care of him and he didn't take care of him yeah yeah you yeah you can't burn me you can't burn me twice with that deal with that now he he he'll crash out he'll crash out and rifle it so and rifle it's oh yeah you should crash out but uh look it's hard to argue anything that the okayc thunder and the the san antonio spurs do because san antonio this thing this This is 20 plus years, 25 years. At least it's a smaller sample size with OKC.

But Sam Presti, when you draft Kevin Durant, you draft James West, Russell Westbrook, James Hardin, Serge Abaka, you had Reggie Jackson. You look at his draft picks. Yeah. It's hard to argue with him. The trades that he's made, he traded and got, hey, he got, he made the trade for PG.

Yeah. He got Paul George, turn Paul George into shape. He got an Alice Caruso. He gets the case in Wallace's and Isaiah Jones. Yeah. It's a smaller sample size to what San Antonio's done. But over the last, but it's hard to argue this over a decade. Yeah, no, I don't think nobody has developed more players than OKC has.

Sam Presti and his system or whatever they got going on over there, Uncle Ocho and O'KC, boy, when they draft, they develop and them guys produce. Yes. And this is the results of it. Like, hey, man, I know because of camaraderie that they have over there and OKC, all them guys probably want to stay together

because they want to tie it together. It always seem like they're enjoying each other's company, having fun. But hey, you got to break that up, bro. You keep the core nucleus together, but a lot of them guys that are sitting on the bench, although they help in many different ways, they just aren't as valuable as a Shay, Chick, J-Dub,

so you kind of have to get off them guys. And then other teams, hell, they don't want you to keep winning. They want to take some of them assets you got over there. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, everybody. I'm Tariqa Foster Brasby.

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