Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Spurs SHUT DOWN Thunder to even series + Mitch Johnson was FUMING at Carter Bryant
Episode Date: May 25, 2026Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe Johnson react to Victor Wembanyama and the San Antonio Spurs stunning Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder to even the series at 2-2 ...in the Western Conference Finals. The Nightcap crew is fired up over Wemby's dominant 33 point performance and makes it official — this is a series now. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction06:25 - Spurs beat Thunder48:25 - Mitch Johnson getting on Carter Bryant (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The series is headed back to OKC, but we have a two, two game.
Victor Wiminyama in 31 minutes at 33 points, eight rebounds, five assists, two steals, three blocks, five alter shots, and three, three, and three, and three made three point shots.
None bigger than the half court shot.
He hit right before the end of the half.
And LeBron James and KD as the only players in NBA history to reach those numbers in a playoff game.
he was sensational tonight.
He came out, and if you remember early in the game,
he went to Coach Johnson and say,
don't take me out.
And he left him in there.
I believe that's what he said.
I don't know if he said that.
But you know,
normally he normally comes out at the five,
at the seven minute, six minute mark.
But he ran it all the way down to about four minutes
before he brought him out.
And Wimby's like, look,
if he dies, he dies.
But I want to live on that.
But I'm going to down this hill.
I am, I'm bringing this serious.
back to San Antonio.
And we're not going to Oklahoma City down 3-1.
We're going tied.
And when we come back, we're going to come back.
We know for certain that we are coming back.
Joe, what was so impressive, not only about Wimby,
but the way they played today?
Man, Ojo, when you look at San Antonio and how they built
and what they can do to you defensively,
dismantle everything you're trying to do, take away every option.
They ain't, look, look, what we talk about, them guards they got,
yep, they can attack the basketball, boy,
when I'm talking about guard and playing defense,
when last time, OKC score 82 damn points in the game?
We're going to look it up.
Ash, look at you look at we speak.
Look, they don't even need no help, bro, with Shay.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I tell you, Shay has to take and make tough two-pointers.
In order for them to even be in the damn game,
He ain't got, hey, look, we talk about OKC and what they've done,
what the bench done the last game and won on the game.
Damn, man.
I mean, it was just nonexistent tonight, fellas.
I mean, they just, I'm talking about nothing offensively, no momentum.
They keep getting off to these slow-ass starts, and it's killing them.
It's killing them, bro.
It's killing them.
San Antonio understood the assignment, especially Wimby.
You got to love his approach to the game and how serious he takes it, bro.
You know, all he wants to do is win.
he know he know he gonna get his numbers here just by being out there yeah you know what i mean he's just
such a huge difference maker here he probably only one had a good game today yeah but i i thought
those guards defended such at an elite level castle was in castle and they switched it off in basile
uh uh uh champany those guys were defending even de aaron fox took the challenge that when he got
matched matched up on on on she he dug his heels in not today
Nothing cheap, nothing deep.
We're not going to let you get on the edges.
We're not going to let you bust through seams.
That's not going to happen.
Like Joe said, if you're going to take these tough shots and make them,
we will live with that.
But we're not going to let you get A and ones.
We're not going to let you attack the paint.
And you notice, Joe, for like the first four shots,
Hardin Stein was shooting that thing.
And then all of a sudden, hey,
and when we kept getting closer and closer.
That next thing, you know, he shot it clear over the damn basket.
And they see him in there.
Like, no, let me go on back up out here.
It's danger, danger, danger.
He alters, he changes your way of thinking.
All that, oh, you, I'm going to attack a bull jive.
You see seven, four and a half with a damn near 10 foot wingspan.
You're bringing that back up out of there.
You're bringing it back up out of there.
I was very impressed the way they play today.
Ocho, you look at O'C.
Yes, huh.
They did have five guys and double figures, but, I mean, think about it.
They shot 33% from the floor, 18% from the three points.
line.
They, I mean, 82 points for this team.
Hey, that lets you know, that's how well the goddamn Spurs played, Uncle Joe.
Yeah.
Hey, Joe, them boy, was sitting in that goddamn chair.
You hear me?
Man.
In that goddamn chair.
And this is the funny thing.
This is what I love about basketball now that I'm learning and getting into it a little
bit more to try to understand it the way I do football and soccer and how unpredictable these
games are.
Honestly, I know I picked the Spurs and win the series, but based on the way the Thunder,
the play last time, especially they've been scoring as such a high clip that they did,
I really thought, I really thought they won't come in this game and repeat the same thing.
And it didn't happen.
Got the goddamn first, hey, Joe, they came off.
Soon as the game started, they was all to a hot start.
I'm like, well, goddamn.
Yeah.
Be aggressive.
Everybody hitting their shots.
I can't remember what the lead was in the first, in the first goddamn quarter.
I looked up and blinked.
I said, well, goddamn did the goddamn thunder show up the goddamn play?
Hey, listen, Wimby was sensational, you know,
and then one thing, they didn't turn the ball over.
They didn't turn the ball over.
The spurred didn't turn the ball over a lot.
I mean, Wimby had a fault outside of that.
Look at Kassel.
Yeah.
I think the thing is, look,
they're going to make some mistakes because they're young.
But you see Johnson, Johnson pulled Brian to the side and say,
bro, we don't need that.
You're trying to go one-on-four, get a charge.
Then you get a file.
Then you get a turnover.
He called time by and said, you know what?
I ain't calling time about the rest.
I'm calling time about to get your ass out the game.
And then you understand Harper there sometimes,
you don't need to go one on three.
You go one on three, they snatch the ball from you.
In a close ball game, those are things that hurt you.
Now, look, we won the ball game,
but I'll never accept anything in a win.
I wouldn't in a loss.
So when they showed them to film,
and there'll be some situations like,
nah, guys, we don't, we don't,
this is an unnecessary play.
Kelton Johnson, we just got a rebound.
We don't need you to pull a three.
with 20 seconds on the shot clock.
That was an unnecessary play.
And so it's things like that,
but they're young,
they're going too young,
and sometimes you have to learn by fire.
But Johnson was not willing to run the risk,
even though they were eight,
up 18, 20 points, Joe.
He's like, I ain't running the risk.
I'm not going to leave you in there
and have them go on a run
because I know what they can do.
I know they can eat.
Because you look up,
they had a big lead.
And they say, you know,
you see, oh, OKC's going on the 12-0-0-0.
They've gone on a 7-0 run.
So the coach is like,
There'll be a chance for you to learn, but not tonight, not tonight.
And when you got some of your top players or your top players,
when I'm talking, speaking in Wimby, bro, when you got them policing each other,
it makes everything a lot different, bro.
Well, coaches really, I mean, they do their job, but the players, your teammates,
when you get on one another and you take that constructive criticism and be better,
that's what ultimately makes you a great team.
I think San Antonio scares me so bad, bro,
because they're so great defensively,
and I ain't just speaking on Wimby, bro.
I'm talking about them guards the way they sat out
and really, really played defense today.
I mean, bro, that's championship caliber defense, bro.
I'm talking about that against a two-time MVP.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we ain't just talking about no anybody.
Like, these dudes really can guard,
and I think every game will bring a different challenge.
and whoever wins game five fellas,
that's probably who's going to win the series.
I'm just going to keep it real.
The last time OKC scored 84 points,
they scored 82, they scored 84,
was December 12th, 2021.
Damn.
Nice.
December 12th, hey, 2021.
So almost five years ago
was the last time they had this fewer points
in a ball game.
Hey, Uncle Joe, you think,
listen, I know four players were in double figures.
Wimby had 30.
but you think because they played defense so well,
it took something out of them on the officer end?
Look, I mean, you just think.
Go ahead, Joe.
After that, go ahead, Joe.
I don't know if I want to say it took something out of them,
but it takes away your trigger points offensively,
meaning, damn, if I could just switch everything
and we can sit down and play defense
and they've got to overextend help, Ocho,
then we limit you to creating opportunities for guys around them,
meaning Shay.
Now, we're going to live with Shay.
if he's going to take 20 shots or however many shots he's going to take to try to get his points.
But we can't let these other dudes get off, bro.
Did you see what they did to his last game off the bench?
Man, we can't have it.
How to hell we're going to win?
We let them dudes go 76 points out of the bench.
It seemed like San Antonio took that personal because they didn't give up Nathania off the bench.
You hear me?
But I think we got to look at both teams can defend now.
So it's not like one team can defend and the other can.
It's not like this is a lopsided battle.
because they got four or five guys,
okay, see on the perimeter,
that can defend at elite level.
Obviously, San Antonio, they showed you tonight.
They got four or five,
three or four guys that can defend an elite level.
And they got something in the back
that nobody else in the NBA has.
I don't know if we've seen a team
where they can defend like they can on the perimeter
and they still have protection in the back.
You're asking, let me think about it.
It's almost like if you're playing baseball,
you got Audrey Smith, a shortstop,
you got Pudge Rodriguez behind the plate,
Hey, you got Keith Hernandez at first base.
You got Robynne Allemore Jr. at second base.
I mean, you got Brooks Robinson at third base.
You just loaded.
Those guys can play.
And then you got Greg Maddox,
who has 18, 19, time Glover on the mound.
So when you got that kind of guys that can sit down for that.
Joe, I saw a situation.
They, a OKC shot the ball.
They got the rebound.
Dude right in your, boom.
They go up and get shoot it again.
they passed it out there.
Boom.
Guess what?
They got the rebound again.
They tried to throw it cross-court.
Vassel's saying, I know what you're going with.
You're going to try to get this thing to Jay Laudgeoning for it.
Spot up three.
I'm on your.
Yeah.
Picked it.
Yeah.
Down the other way.
Hey.
Yeah.
Hey, playing that passing lane, we're good.
Especially if you can anticipate with a ball going, Joe.
Yeah.
I think when you look at it, you know, OKC only shot 33% from the field,
but, hell, San Antonio ain't shoot but 38.
Right.
Okay, C shot 18% from the three.
San Antonio shot 27.
This is a great defensive game.
A great defense.
Two teams that are very, very, very similar and built the same.
It's just that San Antonio got Wimby, bro.
But they, hey, and when he's exploding like this and he,
and he's scoring, like he scored tonight, this is when they're hard to beat.
Also, Joe, they ain't let Hartstein and Chet.
They ain't let them guys run Wimby off the spot.
when he come across the land and they nudging him
and what they were normally doing, they're holding him down.
Scott Foster blowing that whistle.
If you notice the stuff that they let them get away with,
especially in game two,
they didn't let that slide.
That's why you see the free throw discrepancy.
You saw one team shot 18, the other team shot 32.
Now, the problem is now,
you get into a close ball game,
y'all missing those free throw.
They missed a lot of free throws, Joe.
Those are easy bucket.
Those are an opportunity for the clock.
to be stopped and for you to expand on your lead.
Yeah.
You know, Uncle Joe?
What's up?
I kind of feel bad for Hardinstein and shed at times,
obviously because of the disadvantage that they're at
when they're playing against Wimby, because of height, because of length.
And the ref wasn't holding the whistle tonight, Joe, you know?
The ref wasn't holding the whistle tonight.
And it's like, well, damn, now y'all let his mercy no matter what.
Because in order to play against him, you got to be aggressive.
You got to.
You got to spot.
You know?
You got the, you already know what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know all the goddamn basketball terms and terminology to use,
but it's like, it was like almost unfair.
They don't have a chance if they can add that other element to trying to stop him.
And every time they tried to do it the night, the ref called a goddamn file.
Well, look, you got, when you look at Wimby, yeah, they fighting him.
Hardinstein trying to fight him, but man, look, it's only so much you can do.
If I go look at the tape and see, see the adjustments I got to make, stand my ground.
You see how he holding his ground in that post.
You know, they leaning on it and all that.
He leaning back on them.
He's starting to understand, bro.
He's learning as this playoff goes on.
Like, he, I mean, I don't know if his play can get better because he's had some huge games.
But, man, this is going to be a, this is going to be a pivotal game, five in OKC.
And I'm not going to tell y'all no lie.
San Antonio scares me.
And I know we kind of end the moment because they just won a big game.
and they did a hell of a job defensively.
But they play great defense on the road, too, man.
You know, they get off the great starts on the road, too.
So even in the Minnesota series, you know, in Minnesota,
they're getting off to 10-0 runs to start the game.
So I know what they're capable of is just can they sustain it for 48 minutes.
But I think the thing is, Joe, is that we'd have been very foolish and naive to think
they were going to shoot the ball like they did in game three.
I mean, Caruso couldn't miss Jaylor Williams couldn't miss nobody.
Think about it, they scored 76 points off the bench.
Yeah.
They outscored their starters.
And that start, one of those starters is Shay, and She had it in a phenomenal game.
So for me, it's like, okay, and I'm sure Coach Johnson told him, say, guys, what do you think the likelihood?
Let's just continue to play defense like we're playing and let's see if they can shoot the ball.
If they shoot the ball like that again, if we play defense like we play, but let's shut up some of that.
Let's those wide open looks, let's try to run them off the spots.
Jalen Williams had some of those same looks and they didn't go down.
Wallace and Joe and Caruso had some of those same looks and they didn't go down.
So let's play the averages.
Yeah, a guy with five of eight.
Yeah, one guy went four or six.
But that's not what the average is.
So the likelihood of them being able to shoot the ball like that again.
But I tell you what, you defend.
Just like we play, we don't normally give up open looks like that.
That's not who we are.
But if we defend, like I know we can defend, we can beat that team.
Yeah.
And you can see, you could just tell when you watch when you was watching the game today,
you could tell the San Antonio watched the film and was like, listen,
we are overextending too much help, leaving guys wide open,
not knowing why man it.
It wasn't none of that tonight, fellas.
Hell, it wasn't a wide open.
It looks like, hey, them guys,
them guys was getting right to it defensively.
Probably why they didn't play great offensively.
And, you know, they just leaned on Wimby.
But OKC, hey, they got their hands full, bro.
They got their hands full.
Because when you got two guys in your starting lineup
who barely giving you points, man, it's just hard.
And you're hoping that Chek Holmrich was going to come around
and give you one of them big games, I don't think he's going to be able to.
Not with Wemby.
I don't even see it.
I don't see it.
You know what it's like, Joe?
It's like when we play time,
whoever time was guard,
you're not going to get no balls.
Understand that,
hey, get you some great cardio in.
You're not going to have to come in
and run on Monday,
because all you're running going to be doing on Sunday,
but we're not throwing it to you.
So if Wemby's guarding you,
unless he comes,
now, if he comes to blocking,
you see a couple of times,
he came to block a shot,
check got a rebound, put it back,
or guys come get a rebound
because weak side.
He's going to challenge everything.
Like if he's close, he's going to challenge it.
So that's your opportunity.
But as far as taking them off the bounce,
that's not happening.
And you have to understand.
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How guys, and sometimes we see this a lot of Ocho with guys,
guys come in and like, oh man, if he was starting,
no, he's going against the second and third and fourth guys.
Now he's got to go with one and two guys.
he's got to go against the sale
he's got to go against Castle
he's got to go against Champany
that's a whole different damn ball game
then taking Harrison Barnes
or taking Kelton Johnson
because those guys
don't play defense like those first three guys
that I mentioned even tonight
you look at Deer and Fox dig his heels in
yeah
they say
I mean D Fox let him in rebound
and said he had 10 rebounds now
10 points 10
rebounds five or six, no turnovers.
Luke Cornyette, the nuns were there.
They say, do you mind and do you mind of me bless you?
Take a look at the video, y'all.
I see it.
I see it.
Hey.
Hey.
You know what's funny, too?
Oh, they were really, they were nuns for real.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I was watching, I think I'm thinking about it in the third quarter.
They paned to him.
in the stands.
And I thought it was part of, you know.
You thought if he were dressed up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remember what's the redskins?
What's the, oh, my God, Ocho?
Remember the commanders?
Remember the, what's the characters?
They had the piece.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They were called something.
The hog, yeah, they had the hog gas.
No, yeah, I know you're talking about, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, and the Broncos had the guy with the barrel thing.
Yeah, I thought that was, that was something like that.
But I didn't know they were real nuns.
I see why Cornel was pissed off by the Magic City night here.
He hanging with us.
Hey, hey.
Hey.
Guess what?
They're going to be back in attendance on game six.
They might even fly the game five.
Wait, this was four.
Game five back at OECC, right?
That's game five Tuesday in OKC game six back in San Antonio on Thursday.
Yeah.
Hey, Joe, if the, if it's first.
If the spurs can mustered up and steal one mode, not steal.
When, steal one away?
Well, I mean, we've seen them do it before, Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I think in order for that to happen,
Wimby going to have to play big and these guards really going to have to take away
O'KC other offensive opportunities, bro.
Meaning we're going to play a mono-e-mono one-on-one defense.
We ain't giving no damn help.
You on that island by yourself.
By yourself.
Make his ass take and make
tough contested shots.
Man, listen, the way they move
when they feet today, boy, I ain't going to lie.
As a guy who enjoys seeing great
defensive games, bro, like when you can
really mirror a guy, you know how y'all say
in football, a DB,
that's like the hardest position to play because
you've got to mimic what a guy
doing. You got to do the same thing on
defense, but you got to do it going back.
Yes, sir.
Bro, how can you know and understand and guess everything that the offensive guys doing
to where you can stay in front of them and you be right there on all this moves,
his crossover, his hesitation, his hitches and all that.
When you got guys who can guard like that, bro, them elite defenders, man.
Hey, hey, I know we talk a lot about Wimby and what he brings to the table, and he does bring a lot.
He is the difference maker.
Without him, this is a backyard game and it's even.
But with him on the floor
And him playing like the way he played tonight
It's hard to beat him
Bro, when he get it going, man
Because he opens up the floor
And he draws so much attention to himself
That you start to get these wide open threes
For these other guys
San Antonio is scary, bro
They've been scary all damn year here
SGA is shooting 31 of 79
That's 39% from the floor
Verses
Now you talk about the guy that shot 53, 55%
In the regular season
This man is shooting
15, 16, 16,
percent lower than what he shot on the regular season in winning back-to-back
MVP's.
That lets you know how elite defensively this team is.
And like you said, he gets there because you know a lot of times he like to pin the guys
on his back.
Okay, you pin them on your back, but go here.
I'm going to you right into, I'm going to the job.
I'm going to run you right there to the lines then going in there.
There you go.
Go ahead.
If he gets there, he's like, oh, let me try to pass this thing off because he already
know. Now, he did hit a couple of tough shots over, uh, uh, uh,
Winby. I would give you that. Yeah. Yeah.
If you hit those shots, that ain't going to beat us.
Man jumping. You shooting the ball 11 feet in the air and you swishing up
Manette, good job, good job, good job, good job, hell of a plate.
Yeah. Because he ain't going to, he ain't going to be able to make enough.
He ain't going to be able to make enough of them shots to beat you.
You know what I'm saying? Okay, cool. You may make two or three of them cool.
But hell, as long as you don't make 10 of them, 12 of them, are we good.
And the likelihood of them.
of you making 10 to 12 of them.
Now, look, he's a tough shot maker.
And the great ones can take and make tough shots.
But they're not, that's not,
they like to get going making easy shots.
Then they'll expand.
They're making him take, make tough shots from the jump, Joe.
He didn't get no layups.
Hey, he ain't sliding through the defense because they're keeping him from playing on the edges.
He wants to play on an edge.
He's look at a cracker scene.
They're like, no, we're going to.
gonna shut this off, bro.
You ain't coming through here.
You ain't coming through here.
Hey, Joe.
And if you do get through it,
Hey, Wimby, throw it up in the front row.
Yeah.
Hey, Joe, I know, I know Shay only had 19.
He was 6 for 15.
Really wasn't that well.
But the shots he did make Joe,
when he put that ball in the float
and get to his spot,
it's dribble, dribble,
or the guy tried to play aggressive to one side,
he just take that corner.
Yeah.
You keep him pin right on his goddamn hip.
Yeah.
up and if they too close, he'll pump to pull up.
Oh, that, hey, he got a, it's like a very smooth.
It's not like, it's not herky jerky.
You're not some players like, it's like her, you know,
yeah, yeah.
Everything is like real smooth the way you do.
Well, he's tried to put that,
what he's trying to do, you know,
if he'll put that show you and try to dislodge you from the spot.
So that's how he creates separation.
He's going to put in the shoulder that he's going to drive.
You're going to try to cut him up at the point.
He's going to give you that little nudge.
Now he created the separation that he needs to elevate and shoot the shot.
Hey, hey, ain't that how Melo used to create separation too?
Yeah.
Hey, Mello was a little mass with that little sores and that.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, but San Antonio got guys who know how to absorb them bumps
and still, you know, make it tough for you, bro.
It's like some guys offensively, if I make a move on you, boom,
I can knock you out of the play, meaning you can't even recover.
You know what I mean?
These guys, they never get knocked out of the play, bro.
They stay within the play.
Yeah, you may make a good move on them.
They still pursuit.
They still on high pursuit.
You know, they just got a lot of hungry dogs over there, bro.
And I really think they really, really feel like this is an opportunity for them to, you know, win a title.
We're just going to keep it 100.
And I know they wouldn't like it.
They wouldn't want to know other way than going through OKC.
You know what I mean?
But, boy, it's going to be a tough feat.
I think this is going to be OKC's hardest feat
to try and overcome over the past few years.
You know, if you could get through this Spurs team,
I ain't saying it's going to be sweet.
But damn it, it ain't going to be like this.
I believe.
Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let's backtrack now before this series started.
Okay?
Now, I understand what you, I heard what you just said, Joe.
Now, remember you went up.
Now, you all picked the goddamn thunder to win this series.
Remember that, huh?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm just making sure.
I want you all to stick to your gun.
Yeah, we are.
Don't, okay, don't flip the script.
No, but I believe, Joe, I think deep down.
I mean, sometimes you say, you say what you say it on surface level,
oh, we can beat this team.
But I believe deep down, they can beat the, they can be O KC.
They play like, they're not in awe of O KC.
Nah.
They don't stand around.
They, hey, from the jump ball, let's do it up, bro.
What you got?
Yeah.
Soon that ball go up.
Yeah, you're right.
They after you.
They at your neck.
Look, all year, man, they, they've, they've competed at the highest level.
They've been at the top of the Western Conference the whole entire year.
Like, they know, they know they can compete with the best.
They know they have what it takes to win the title.
They just got to go out there and do it.
Yes.
And I think the thing is, like I said, they just have to be, because here's the thing, Joe.
The turtle, the tick-y-tack silly turner was that they had late in the third quarter
in the fourth quarter.
They had such a league that didn't hurt them.
you in a game, a nip-tuck ball game, you're down two, you're up two, you're down five,
you're up five.
Now all of a sudden that puts you down, you potentially down seven, you're down 10,
or it gives you an opportunity to be up seven, up 10.
So in a situation like this, you think about it, and that's the thing that you have to learn,
is that you still have to be critical of yourself even in a win.
Most people don't want to be critical of themselves because you say,
the objective is to win the game.
But if you don't correct the small things,
when you win, they'll bite you in your ass
and then you're like, well, you could have corrected it earlier.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like a child.
You keep getting him what he wants
and you don't correct that behavior.
What happens?
What happens as he gets older?
He gets older.
When you haven't corrected said behavior.
Yeah.
You got to.
You got to.
And you watch them.
I watch them.
I'm just watching them.
Boy, they're like, nah, I ain't cha.
Hey, they fighting over screen.
They running through people.
They do it.
Hey.
You see how physical it is like that, man?
I'm talking about, listen.
I'm talking about even if you ain't got the ball and you said in the pick.
You know how they push it.
Bro, you know, when you make an adjustment in a playout series,
that's the one thing that teams
are going to always try to adjust to.
And that's the physicality of the game.
Because that's going to determine
who wants it more.
You know, I see these dudes running through screens.
They ain't laying on the pick.
They getting their leg.
Hey, I'm talking about competition at the highest level.
This is why we watch.
This is why we watch, fellas.
Hey, you better, hey, I tell you what,
when you set the pick, you better nail your shoes to the floor
because they're going to run your through,
they're going to run through your ass.
Excuse me.
They're not playing.
They're not playing.
They are not playing.
So you sit a little lazy pick if you want to.
But I was so impressed with the way they won the game.
I mean, nobody shot the ball well.
And that's because both teams I thought played outstanding defense.
The difference in the ball game.
And Joe, what we say.
We always say Hardinstein and Chet need to cancel out Wembe.
Their points, their rebounds, their blocks, their assists,
needs to equal his.
Yeah.
Tonight they were 22, 16, and 5.
Wemby was 33, 8, and 5.
Bro, he double, he basically, he tripped,
damn the triple Joe love.
I mean, he got 22.
He got 30, what do you have, 33?
30, he got 33.
She had got to give more than that.
Hardinstein, hey, if Hartstine's not going to give me 12, Joe,
I'm looking, that's a game that we can probably,
to go win. Yeah, yeah.
You got to realize we didn't run it no place for him.
Nope. He's shooting the ball late in the shot,
like go back and look at his shots. All of them was under
five seconds. Man, okay, see,
it's like Chick Homer's, he ain't fast twitch enough,
you know, for his height. Like, he can't,
it's like everything he'd do is so methodical and kind of slow.
He's very robotic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Watch when he shoot the three, Joe.
Yeah, that's how Chesh.
Champini blocked his three-point shot last game.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like his moves are so methodical that it's kind of hard for him to get his stuff off.
And that's just me watching.
That's my observation.
I'm like, because I'm looking at other ways how OKC can kind of offset this pressure.
Hell, they can't, bro.
They can't offset it because the big's Hardinstein and Czech homebred.
They're going to always be in check because of Wimby here.
You know what I mean?
It's just the Spurs has got so much.
bro. I'm talking about from a competitive standpoint and guys who look like and seem like they've really
taking it personal. They're taking their challenge. They taking on, you know what I mean? They
understand their assignment, bro. And it's a good thing to watch because we've seen OKC dominate so much,
so long, especially Shay at his position. We never thought there would be anybody who could really,
you know, sit in the chair and make it tough for him. We've seen Marcus Smart do a great job on him against the Lakers.
He got that one game and got out.
And we knew that San Antonio had guys who could really guard, bro,
and they're showing it, bro.
They are showing it.
Go ahead, don't Joe?
Thank you, Joe.
All right, I was just going to say, I'm glad to see y'all give us, you know,
give us praise, you know.
I'm not saying us as it, I'm a part of the Spurs,
but I'm just saying since that's the team that I pick to win this series,
I mean, it is very refreshing to finally see y'all give us our flowers.
And what I knew was going to happen before the series even started.
Huh?
We've been giving them their props, though.
Yeah, I know.
I understand what you're saying, Joe.
And with all due respect, you know, even with those props, both of you, I asked specifically
before the series started, are you sure you want to pick the Thunder to Win this series?
I asked you twice.
And both times, y'all said, yes, we're confident.
You're in real life.
Two-two head back to OKC, right?
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Sit me down now.
Simmer down.
Simmer down.
It's supposed to be two-two.
We know this was going to be a boxing man.
We knew it was.
But the one thing that separates the two teams was Wembe.
And I said that.
And Wembe had a game tonight.
Now, along with Wimbi having the game he had tonight,
them young bulls played defense out of yin-yang.
Yeah.
The question is, Ocho, the question is,
can they duplicate this performance in O KC?
And see, that's the problem.
That's the problem.
When I just said when we first started to show
how unpredictable basketball is,
where I was kind of nervous,
The way they got to, okay, I got to stop saying, God damn.
Like, seriously.
Okay, it's becoming a part of my godd.
Yeah.
It's becoming part of my vocabulary.
And people in the chat, I'm not saying GOD.
I'm saying GOT.
Yeah.
But anyway, how the game is so unpredictable, Joe, the bench.
Oh, would you say they had 76 last, last game, right?
Yeah.
Hey, Joe, I'm thinking they're going to come and do the same thing, this game.
They had 30.
They was a no show.
It was a no show.
Yeah.
I didn't think that they would give 76.
I just think every game is going to require somebody different to step up.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
And you had McCain with what he had, 22, 23 last game.
Caruso has been solid this whole postseason, but he didn't get you nothing the night.
So you got to get back to the drawing board.
this is why it's a series and not one game.
They got to go home, take care of home court, bro.
They got two games.
They can potentially, you know, if it goes seven,
they'll have two games at home, one game in San Antonio.
It's going to go down to the wire, though.
Boy, it's going to go down to the world.
Well, they had what?
They had 34 tonight.
They had 76.
OKC's bench had 34 tonight.
That's 42 less than what they had the other night.
Joe, but what's impressive.
Think about this.
OKC scored 48 in the first half.
They scored 34 in the second.
34 points.
Yeah, man.
Hey, hey.
This is a virtuoso.
Yeah.
This is from a defensive standpoint.
This is Poverty at the Sydney Opera House.
Hey, what did you know about Poveranati?
That's what that was.
Yeah.
The Beatles on Ed Sullivan.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, when you cultured.
Hey, from a defensive standpoint,
you're absolutely right.
You know, I think San Antonio knows and understands
that they are capable of these type of performances defensively
to where they just shut your whole offense down.
You know, they've done it on numerous occasions
throughout this postseason.
And I'm sure they're going, hey,
they're going to be looking to go in the OKC
and they're going to be looking to steal game five.
38 or 60 to 48.
Okay, see, what is it scored in the first half?
Was it 60?
It was up 12.
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Damn.
Was it 50 to 38?
50 to 38.
So they scored 44.
I spoke.
I thought it was 40, 60 to 48, but it was 50 to 38.
Still, they only scored 44 points in the second half.
44 points in the second half.
Let that, what's even more impressive, they scored 38 in the first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
38 points.
That team.
Yeah.
We've seen that team score 70.
We've seen that team score 80 points and a half.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got a two-time league MVP.
A four-time first team, all-N-B.
Chet was only all the all-defeasant first team,
and I think if he made, what do you make,
second team or third team, all-NBA?
Damn.
He made third team all-N-B-A.
So they got two all-N-B-A selections,
that team.
They got two all-MBA,
two defensive
NBA on that team.
And they got held to
38 points in the first
half, 44 in the second
half.
That is crazy.
The way they defended
tonight.
Hey.
Hey, you got to have
guys who I'm telling you, man,
who do not mind
taking that challenge, fellas.
And that's what tonight was.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, no, I don't need no help tonight.
I got him.
I got him.
Hell, he makes a tough shot on me.
He'd make one.
But I'm moving to each puppy.
Joe back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000,
the one thing as a team, we would always say our defense would travel.
Because it wouldn't get too cold.
It wouldn't get too hot.
It wouldn't get too windy.
It wouldn't get too wet.
San Antonio?
That what y'all did tonight, that'll travel.
Because you can take and make shots.
Eh, the wind might be blowing on your
we ain't gonna be able to throw it like we once could.
It might be a blizzard.
The wind might be gusting at 60, 50, 60 miles an hour.
It might be a deluge, but defensively.
We can package that, we can put it.
I can play defense on the moon where they ain't got no gravity.
I can play it on Saturday.
I can play it on, in the sun.
It does not matter.
Yeah.
What the Spurs did tonight, that will travel.
The question is, will your mindset?
Because defense is a mindset.
Yep.
Got it want to.
It's a mindset.
Man, look here, them jokes that, babe, they were so.
Hey, but when you think about it,
I ain't think OKC did a bad job defensively.
I thought they played pretty good defensively as well.
I mean, they only gave up 103 points.
You know, but here.
I play a 31 minute. Now, Joe,
women went out with six minutes to go now.
Women say, I had some more for y'all at.
But I'll save it.
I don't feel like I really need to empty anymore
these bullets because y'all, you know.
They can't, hell, the OKC can't get no buckets.
They can't score enough points.
I mean, think about this, bro.
If game four, your bench outscores your starters,
your bench wins that,
your bench winning you that game.
You can't expect them to duplicate
their same type of performance
in game four. I'm sorry.
Like you can't lean on that. And
I know when they made subs, you know, you got guys
coming in, especially McCain
being aggressive. You know,
you got guys coming in trying to get to it.
But it just seems so hard for OKC to get a bucket.
Like they work in extra hard for every point
that they have to come by.
And it's like for the Spurs,
It's just like ball movement, ball movement here, throw it up the wind, be done.
Boom, three.
You know what I mean?
It's like they score so easily and fluently that it's so hard for OKC.
And yeah, they've been down a lot, meaning to start the game and they're able to fight back.
But bro, you can't keep digging yourself in these holes, man.
It's going to be hard to get up out of that.
Also, Joe, the thing is that what happens is the spurs is that what they normally do when they get a big lead,
they start turning it over.
That's what they did.
What they didn't do tonight,
what they normally do,
and what they've done in some of the other games,
is turn it over and allow OKC to get back in the ball game.
Tonight, yeah, I mean, they had 12, you know, one game.
I mean, think about it.
They had 12 turnovers tonight.
The first two games, Steppen Castle,
was averaging 10 a game.
10, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tonight, what do you have tonight?
One turnover.
I can live with that.
I can live with that.
Yeah, here Fox has, I think Fox, if I'm not mistaken,
Fox has zero.
Dillian Harper, two turn.
I can live with that.
Yeah.
Those, that is what I can live with.
If we get a lead, make them make plays.
Let's get a shot at the basket.
Let's not let them get out in transition.
Let's not get them run because, you know,
they're going to start celebrating,
feeling good about themselves.
let's try to make them feel as bad as they possibly can about themselves
as long as we possibly can.
You know, sometimes, guys, you know, we can't tell her she look good
because then she's going to give us an ass to kiss.
Hey, nah, how look, all right?
Do her damn well, she's 15.
All right, I can care you.
Soon as I tell you, how she looks.
How she looks?
All right.
Hey, real talk, though, you got to be careful,
giving somebody attention.
Because guess what?
The moment you give someone attention
and you don't continue to give them
attention, what would they do, guys?
They'll seek it elsewhere.
You'll find it somewhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll find it somewhere.
Huh?
True statement, boy.
True statement.
Once you started,
Mama, you like that.
she really is
but
I did
it was like man
I had to be like a pep club
everything
damn you're going to bed
damn
you got a mask on your face
what you mean how you look
you look like you got
on pajamas with a mask going to bed
yeah
you got a bonnet
damn
what the hell
but okay
you look good
But yeah, yeah.
And so the thing is is that the way they play tonight,
package that up, package that mindset.
You don't ever notice how some teams play defense no matter what.
You look at the Ravens.
And the Ravens for the last couple of years
has kind of been an anomaly.
But you look at for about 20 years,
the Ravens played defense.
The Steelers, since the 70s, were known for defense.
Some teams, you just, that's who they are.
Yeah, that's their identity.
That is who they are.
That is a mindset.
And guess what?
I go draft guys with that mindset.
Be who you are.
We don't want you to change.
We don't need you to be no fireboy.
We got enough guys that's going to go out of the community.
Boy, this was, this was, uh,
Joe, what did you think about Ms. Johnson getting on rookie Carter Bryant?
Looked like he was in tears in his eyes,
but women and counsel both went over to talk to him.
We got the video?
Oh, you got to.
Okay, where we can't show that.
Hey, that's, hey, that's part of being a young guy.
You know, you got vets who are going to, like I said, you're going to police you.
Hey, we're going to do the job, and the coaches ain't going to have to do it.
You know, we're going to police each other, keep each other in line.
And it's also going to make him, it's going to make him a better player.
It's going to make them a better team because the respect factor is going to be,
it's going to be there.
You know what I mean?
I don't mind that.
I don't mind that.
I agree.
I agree, Joe.
But I, I think it sometimes, you know, and I tweeted, I was like, yeah, take him out.
And they're like, you need to get experienced what they're up.
No, bro.
The last thing I want to do is to have him to keep turning the ball over and have them going to run.
And they're right back in the ball game.
Sit him down.
You'll have an opportunity to talk to him after the game.
So look, I understand that you want to be aggressive and good thing.
But at that, you have to understand.
You have to pick and choose.
When the, bro, you got a, you got a, you got a, you got a,
One on three.
You pick up a charge.
That's a turnover.
We play an extremely well.
Now you commit a file in the back court.
Then you're doing, I'm like, what are you doing, son?
Listen to me.
It's a learning curve for these young cats, bro, you know,
because it's not a lot of times that you get rookies.
Like San Antonio, you got two rookies.
kids on their team and, what's his name?
Harper and what's the other kid you just, Brian?
Carter Bryant.
And when you plan on these type of teams, bro, you have to understand something.
When your opportunities do come, yeah, we up big, but you can't be out there trying to exhaust
you down all your options trying.
We play on national TV.
I'm trying to give me some shine.
Man, listen, you want to stay in the damn rotation, your ass better play.
play the right way.
You know what I mean?
Because it's a pecking order early,
but you have to earn your stripes.
You have to earn coaches trust.
You have to earn that.
And your teammates trust.
There you go.
Imagine you did that.
You made them play like that and you're on Jordan team.
Imagine you made those play like that
and you're on Kobe's team.
Yeah.
The coach, before they,
do you even get to the coach?
And that's the thing.
And that's the thing.
Yeah, look, everybody, we want you to play and play hard,
but we also want you to play smart.
Yeah.
Understand the situation of the game where we are the momentum of the game.
Pull it back out.
There will be an opportunity for you to get you an easy one.
Yeah.
This wasn't the time.
I commend you for doing that.
Hey, Colvin, like, hey, look at me, son.
Yeah.
Like they say, if I don't say nothing to you, it's a damn problem.
Don't worry about it.
It won't be long.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
When they stop talking to your old, Joe, it won't be long.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, that's the worst thing.
Yeah.
As an athlete, Joe, and Uncle, obviously, you know,
when a coach is always on you, he own you for a reason.
Yeah.
He on you for a reason.
when he stopped talking to you, when he stopped correcting you,
that's when you need to be working.
Somebody else about to start to call you.
Yeah, I'm tired of your head.
That's what that means.
Because you Brian Billy, he said, son, don't cut yourself.
Let me do that.
Yeah.
Don't cut yourself.
Make my job hard.
Yeah.
Plays like that, you make my job real easy.
I don't know how hard it is to do the job.
You understand when you assume that role,
that's a part of your job.
You know, they always, you know,
they always try to make you feel,
man, this is the worst part of my job.
I can't tell.
You've been coaching, you've been coaching for 10 years.
Do you know how many players you've actually cut in 10 years?
At least at the bare minimum, 200.
That's at the minimum.
That's just training camp going into the sea.
That's not the count regular season.
That's not counting off season.
I would hate to be a coach, Joe, you know?
To be in that position where I have to tell a player,
even though it's his childhood dream,
you're not good enough to play for us.
Without saying it, you soften the blow.
It's anything you say, anytime you say anything to anyone
and it's in a negative way, it's all about delivery
and how you say things.
Hey, I think if I was a coach, I wouldn't have a problem telling guys that,
guys that because they should have cost you your job, Ocho.
Damn, Joe.
I'm just keeping real.
I'm saying if I was a coach, I wouldn't have a problem in policing players because you
got to understand, bro, if you, if you're not policing these guys holding them accountable,
they're going to run over you as a coach, man.
I'm telling you, I've seen it time and time again, bro.
Absolutely.
You have to be somebody that they totally respect, bro.
Yeah, sir.
They get mad to me because I tweeted.
I saw all the time, Ocho.
Dumb players get you cut.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, hell.
Hey, shit, you got a bad team.
They get your players, get you fired too.
Hey.
Yeah.
We had a guy especially, well,
Richard Smith told a story.
He said, son, that effort right there,
get you cut and me fired.
That's a lose, lose.
You're right.
I bet I don't know where Rich yet,
but I love Rich because he was brutally honest.
And that's what I'll.
Just be honest with me.
If I'm doing good, say I'm doing good.
If I'm doing bad, say I'm doing bad.
If you see an area I can improve in, Tim, I can improve in this area.
Don't boogey.
Hey, that's why I got so much respect for Coach Nolan Richardson when I played the University of Arkansas in college.
Okay, Ocho, he's super.
Y'all think, Chad, y'all think old school, the damn Nolan Richardson, boy.
Hey, Ocho.
Yeah.
Tough cookie, bro.
He rarely, he rarely complimented us.
Rarely. I'm talking about rarely, bro.
He rarely complimented us.
And boy, hey, we worked, homie.
We worked.
I'm talking about he held everybody accountable
from me on down.
He didn't give a damn.
That's the old school guys.
Barney, them boys did good.
What the hell they're supposed to do?
Bad?
Yeah.
That's how he thought.
Oh, Chow.
I mean, what, hey, they did something.
That's what he's like, that's what they're supposed to do.
He said, I'm not giving no compliments for something you're supposed to do.
Now, if you did something out of the ordinary,
or the boys went to school, the boys said, yes, sir, no, sir.
Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
They opened the door.
Okay, that's what they're supposed to do.
That's my grandma.
What?
Okay, I tell you what, wait.
You'd had great, you'd had great, you'd had great looking like me,
waiting on him to get your compliment.
I told you, told me of my brother, anything,
It's better than nothing, but you two fellas
are close to nothing.
Hey.
Boy.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, but you got to respect them old school cats.
Is they way or the highway, bro?
Like, you're going to get with the program.
Yeah.
Is it good good or get gone?
Boy, look at my odds of them,
because you know, my odds are grown.
But you know, you get grown.
What you want to do?
You want to go out.
Hey, I'm growing.
own now, I want to go out.
Man, Papa say, hey, don't grumble and stay.
He said, grumbling, leave.
He said, don't tell me what an SOB I am in my own house.
Tell me what the SOBI is your house.
Right, right, right.
Guess what?
They got a bite of them.
Oh, no.
And they know it's different.
It was back then, you know, you had to ask,
could you take somebody to order out?
Oh, Daddy, I'm going.
No, sir.
Right.
You came there, you sat down on the couch.
Mr. Barney, I was wondering if I could take you,
if I could take your daughter out.
Hey, what time you plan on having a home?
That's what it was on you.
It wasn't, no.
Oh, hey, mom, dad, I'm going out.
No, woohoo.
He'll come in there and sit down and ask Barney Porter.
Could he, boy, look here.
Okay.
Okay.
That calls the law to car.
that caused a lot of conflicts in the porterhouse
and rocked four bucks 385.
That man didn't play that.
Yeah.
Hell no.
I could have, that's different.
Yeah, he didn't give a damn
you somebody else kid, boy, took here, okay?
That bad, those guys back then,
they demanded respect.
You understood it from the jump.
All that loud talking and yelling and,
and no, no, no, so it was,
yes, sir, Mr. Barney,
Miss Mary.
Yes, sir.
No, sir.
Yes, ma'am.
Hey,
had that girl home at 12.
Yes, sir, Mr. Barney.
Okay.
Yeah.
Bringing that at 1205 if you want to.
Hey, hey, hey.
You're going to see it again, huh?
Well, look, here.
I can honestly say, Ocho,
I've never seen anybody.
My grandfather died.
when I was eight, I could only remember from the time
I was about four to half, maybe five, until he passed.
I've never seen a man disrespect my grandfather.
And definitely not nobody that we were married to.
No, sir.
No, sir.
Yeah.
grown me, look here, he did not play that.
He did not tolerate disrespect.
But you know what?
I wish I'm going to get my brother on here.
But he'd be sleep.
He could tell you.
I forgot this story.
He said, man, you remember when Papa
told us how to cut the grass?
I said, yeah, I said, but Spanky,
all he did was did a strip down and the strip back up.
So the first time me and Spanky cut the grass,
I was small, I couldn't have been no more than five.
Spanky cut one side in the back.
I had the smallest side.
He'd get home.
He'd get out of the car.
He walked out there and look at it.
Hey, you two fellas come out here.
We come out there.
I thought he'd go, hey, did a good job or something.
What is this?
Say, we cut the grass.
You know what he told us?
Was that?
Is that how I showed you how to cut it?
Mm.
He wants you to cut down
and the wheel overlap the outside wheel where you went down.
That's how he, you did it like he said, do it.
Don't do it.
He said, I didn't tell y'all how to do it like that.
Yeah.
Hey, I need to take you home with some people that's a little bit older than me.
It wasn't,
wasn't that other stuff.
He got mad because we didn't cut the grass like he told us how to cut it.
Like he showed us.
Right.
Cut his grass.
But you make it like it's up.
Now I'm looking back, bro, that isn't on the Gus of National.
That's not Pebble Beach.
It got weeds and everything growing the dog fiddles and everything, bro.
Come on now.
Hey, hey, you know, the older folks, they don't play by their yard now.
They don't play by their yard.
Boy, I could imagine.
We talked about that guy walking on the yard.
Boy, I show which that was Barton Porter's yard you walked in.
I bet you wouldn't get that.
First of all, you'd never walk in the yard.
No, son.
That would have never happened.
Joe, what do you think about the Spurs?
Similarly, women Ms. Johnson are opted to pick it up with Timmy and Pop left off.
Coach is only good as the player.
Yeah, man.
I mean, they, they headed in the right direction.
I think they have a great players coach who the players respect.
First and foremost, that's probably number one for me.
Yes.
When you got your players who respect the coach, because that'll take you a long way.
Absolutely, Joe.
Yeah.
And now you got, you know, your players policing.
one another. That's another
recipe for, you know,
a championship pedigree.
You know, I've seen it, bro. I know what it
looked like, and the Spurs
have a bright future. I mean, hell,
are they the youngest team? Yes. They still
the youngest team. 24 and 7.
And to be
playing this type of basketball,
bro, and the Western Conference
Finals against an elite OKC
team, obviously, you know, missing one of
their all-stars, but
hey, man, they're making it very
interesting fellas.
They are,
like I said,
but it's a culture.
It's a culture,
but you better have
great players.
How did that culture look
when Kauai left,
when Timmy Duncan retired,
there ain't no,
Manu and Tony Parker.
How did Spurs' culture look?
When Tom Brady left,
how did Patriots culture look?
Mm-hmm.
You can say all the
culture, all that, all the stuff,
but you better have players
that can play.
Absolutely.
Got to.
Fox told the, excuse me,
Fox told the broadcast after the game,
we lost game three,
but that was the first time Park walked into the locker room.
It was like, nah, that's BS.
That's not how we play basketball.
And obviously he had some choice words for us.
That was the first time all season
that he came into the locker room right after game
and told us how you felt.
He can see it.
you, hey, you let them other guys get off.
You let their bench play like that.
We got to take their bench out of the game.
Now, we make and live with Shay getting 30, 25,
but the rest of them guys,
they ass ain't eating the night.
They're starving.
We're starving to hell, yeah.
Yeah.
But do you understand the level of respect
that that man has to have
in the condition that he's in
to still be able to walk into that room?
The coach allow him to address the team
You can see sometimes coach like this is my team
You don't need to address the team
But pop is so beloved
He's so respected
He demands such respect
He walked in there
Say man y'all got some bulljad
Yeah
Man
The one thing you know you know them players
Gonna respect that bro
They're gonna respect that
High time champion
Yeah come on man
Soe Robinson coach Duncan Parker
Genoblee
Kawhi 5 of the players that he coached
Going to the hall
All the fame.
Resumates for itself.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And you got all these former guys who still live in San Antonio.
They had to practice a silly probably every day, you know, trying to coach up these young dudes, you know, give them some dudes and don'ts.
You know, teach them how to be a professional.
So they got, you right.
The culture is everything, bro.
And I love the fact that, like you said, you know, hey, Wimby.
Well, you got two of the greatest bigs
they ever played a game
in Robinson and Duncan right there.
You can bounce anything off him.
But what I love the most,
he ain't afraid to go outside.
Let me talk to Kareem about that footwork
because Kareem had better footwork
than both of you guys.
You guys were outstanding.
But I want to learn how to play
with using footwork
and playing outside.
Man,
sky's the limit for this kid.
It is, bro.
I love, look.
And a lot of times,
you know,
A lot of times Joe and Ocho, you know, handpicked successors,
they don't do too well.
They got the right guy with Ms. Johnson.
Oh, yeah.
They got the right guy.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Young enough.
He's young enough to where he's still in the loop.
And like I say, he resonated with the players well.
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