Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Steelers CLINCH AFC North over Ravens + Falcons FIRE Head Coach Raheem Morris + Nick Sirianni SITS Eagles STARTERS + Myles Garrett BREAKS Single-Season SACK RECORD
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Ocho, what a game, what a game.
Tyler Luke misses a 44-yard field, go wide right.
And a brutal miss for it from a rookie.
Aaron Rogers and the Steelers win the AFC North,
and they get to host a game next Monday night.
As a matter of fact, they get to take on the Houston Texans.
which should be a barn burner of a ball game.
The Houston, Texas, finished great down the stretch,
and they finished today.
They won today.
They beat the Indianapolis Colts.
But tonight, Lamar Jackson came back after last week,
taking last week off.
He was 11 of 18.
He only threw 18 passes.
238 yards.
Three touchdowns, one in a reception.
He was sacked three times.
Derek Henry ran the ball extremely well tonight.
20 carries.
Yeah.
A buck 26.
They just, Steelers just,
dominated time of possession, Ocho.
Aaron Rogers was 31 or 47,
294, one touchdown.
No interception.
Clean game.
They ran the ball 24 times for 100 yards.
Ocho, when somebody goes back to
throw the ball that many times
and they're not as mobile as Aaron is
and you only get him two times,
that lets you know you need,
you need some rushers.
Yeah.
The Steelers play. Both teams play great.
Ravens got up to a great start.
10-0-0-0-0.
watching this game.
Tell me what you thought about this game.
Tell me what you liked, what you did like.
Listen, this was a divisional game.
This is the game that was very exciting
because of the implications of it.
Both teams having to win the game
to go to the playoffs.
Aaron Rogers played extremely well.
What we thought,
what we thought Lamar Jackson wouldn't do
with the fact that he was back there,
he was ready to play.
We thought they would abandon the run
and put the ball in Lamar Jackson's hands.
But Derek Henry ran the ball well.
Derrick Henry ran the ball well
and the plays that Lamar Jackson had to make, he made him.
Zay Flowers, two big plays.
A woozy obviously slipped on one of them, but outside of that.
A woozy wasn't in.
That was number three.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's, the last one?
That's a woozy.
On the double move?
I thought it was.
Oh, man.
Ocho.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ocho, you played DB.
Since when do they teach you to start with playing with both feet when you
going backwards?
Both feet.
You either T-step, which is one, or you back straight.
up and drive on one yeah no point in time as though well I've never seen a DB coach say you
play it with both feet that's why I got in the feet yeah we're not from Monday go ahead
oh Joe yeah yeah I mean I obviously you listen you can't play in you can't blame the
ground on at that point especially in the game you've been playing all game all damn
damn they're all game long okay that yeah so hey it's this was a good game this was a
big Aaron Rogers played well Lamar Jackson played well
the Ravens offense played well.
The one thing I will say is they were never able to make Aaron Rogers uncomfortable.
He was never uncomfortable.
Even though he doesn't have the legs he used to have,
there was no pass for us to get Aaron Rogers off his spot.
Some of those souls Aaron Rogers made the fire move on.
My goodness.
Oh, he could, if you let him just sit down playing his feet,
Ocho, most NFL quarterbacks.
And you're talking about one of the great NFL
quarterback. If you don't put pressure on him,
he's going to pick you apart.
Oh, yeah. There's nothing wrong with his arm.
Maybe he can't throw it 60 yards
like he wants good, but the pinpoint
accuracy, yes, and there's
occasion where he missed more throws.
You see him miss more throws that he
normally would miss, but
if you don't pressure him and get him off
the spot like you said, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's going to dice you up, man.
And look, and he did
he did the night.
Ocho, the race.
Ravens only have 48 plays.
They scored 24 points on 48 plays.
They had 12 first downs.
Steelers had 24 first downs.
The Steelers was 9 of 16 on third down.
The Ravens was 4 of 12.
The Ravens average almost 11 yards per play.
The Steelers were six.
Penalties.
Ravens were nine for 78.
The one turnover.
But that wasn't it.
I mean, that missed kick,
that might cause John Marbaugh's job, Ocho.
You think you think so?
It might.
You see, and we're going to talk about it later,
and you see Rahim got relieved of his duty
and the general manager in Atlanta.
And think about how they finished.
Atlanta was, I mean, Atlanta,
somebody's going to get the coach
a very good football team.
In Atlanta.
Bejohn Robinson,
Kyle Pitts,
Drake, London,
Mooney,
look at that Pierce, they got what, Jalen, Johnson, they got Pierce, uh, uh,
Leonard Floyd, they got Bates.
They've got some, somebody's going to get to coach a very good football team.
Now then I don't think they have a first round pick, but they got a good football team down there.
But I'm looking at the Ravens.
I'm trying to put my hand on when they had them down 10 nothing and you had an
opportunity to get some more separation, you didn't get it.
And I don't know why you didn't get it.
Because like I said, I thought, you know,
when he carries, I mean,
you couldn't stay on the field on third down.
It's hard.
Because if you look at the Steelers,
they were nine of 16.
Think about Ocho,
you don't normally have 16 opportunities for third down.
No.
16?
That's a lot.
And then you pick up nine of them.
Because eight of them is 50%.
So you're probably around 55%.
You let somebody pick up 55% of first,
third down,
You probably lose more than what you did, but a missed field goal.
I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't surprised that he missed it.
That's a rookie kicker, O-Chimp.
Wait, I mean, a rookie kicker in that situation, and you have one job.
You hear me?
You have one job.
I don't care about the situation.
Pre-season, regular season, implications to be able to go to the playoffs, you have one job.
When you go to practice, they do one thing since training camp.
They kicked the ball.
That's it.
Let me ask you a question.
How many times they practice
they kick for a chance to go to the playoffs?
You block the noise out.
You block the noise out.
It doesn't matter what you're going for.
How many times you think John Harbaugh told him
this is a kick to go and take us to the playoffs?
Now we practice.
Do we not practice two minutes?
Do we practice no huddle?
Yeah.
Okay, we down three.
We down seven.
How many times you think John Harbaugh told him
this is the kick to get us into the playoffs.
How many times you think he'd been under that kind of pressure?
Probably never.
Probably never.
Probably never.
Hey, that's a whole lot, boy, that's a whole lot riding on your leg.
Absolutely.
Listen to me, that's a different kind of pressure on.
Now, the guy, the guy that he replaced in his rookie season,
all he did is go kick the Ravens to the AFC championship game.
You see the importance of having a kicker that's consistent.
Regardless.
He's arguably one of the two or three greatest kickers to ever,
especially clutch big game.
How many big game kicks have we seen him make?
A 66 yarder in Detroit to win the game.
Playoff game, all these implications.
We've seen him time and time again.
Now last year he struggled.
I obviously had some things going on,
but you know, we saw him struggle.
This situation here.
And I'm looking at the game.
I'm like, damn, Ravens, man, look, y'all got the momentum.
man, y'all need to get some separation.
But I kept like, man, get a little separation.
Get a little separation.
Yeah.
They never could get the separation they need.
The next thing you know is 10-3 and then it's 10-10 and then it's...
I was like, damn.
I said, boy, you're playing with fire because we talk about it all the time,
Ocho, when you have momentum, you better get some separation because they're going to get it.
As much as you can.
Yeah, listen, the pendulum always shifts in a football game.
Hell, the pendulum always shifts in any sport, no matter what you play at some point.
But like you say, you want to get as much of a lead as you can while you had the momentum.
But it's difficult, huh?
That's why I look the way it looked tonight.
It's difficult.
And it comes down to what it did tonight where the game is decided on the kicker's leg.
And most of the time, you hope you have a clutch kicker, a good kicker who doesn't allow certain situations to bother them.
where he can still complete the task under those kind of conditions.
That's why Adam Ventyrie is going to the Hall of Fame.
You talk about clutch.
How about making a game winning field goal in the snow?
How about making a kick in the Super Bowl Ocho twice?
Yeah.
With no time on the clock.
Can you get more clutch than that?
Can you get more pressure than that?
That's why Adam Venetary is going to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He played a number of years and longevity, but that's not why.
You won't find two better kickers under the gun, under immense pressure than Adam
Venetary.
Yeah.
Everybody remember that divisional game of the playoffs against the Raiders into snow,
are driving 45, almost 50-yard kick.
He nails it.
In overtime to win the Super Bowl.
Super Bowl.
And then guess what, Ocho?
Two years later, come back against the Carolina Panthers and did it again.
Again.
Mm-hmm.
He was clutch now.
No doubt about it.
Chad, y'all may all help me.
Where did the Ravens look?
I understand the yet the defense is bad.
And I know John Harbaugh, it's tough, Ocho.
When you have a friend and you don't really want to fire somebody,
but he probably didn't think he had anybody on the staff that could fill in and do any better than what Zach Orr was doing.
That's why he left him in that role.
With that being said,
Yeah.
This defense isn't good.
It's not.
Let's be rich.
Chat, y'all know it.
It's not good.
They got no past rushers.
The guys in coverage aren't good.
Roquan is okay, but Roquan is not Roquan from three, four years ago.
He's not.
Hold on.
I got a question.
I know, I know you say the defense is bad, right?
Yes.
but when you look at the third level on the Ravens
are they really that bad
if they got to cover people for 30 seconds
I mean if you got to cover somebody for 30 seconds
hell everybody else would look bad too
if you weren't getting any pressure on the goddamn
quarterback well well now I called a question
if you know you can't get pressure
why would you put your corners
in a one-on-one situation with like a bomb blitz there
if you can't stop the run you ain't got no choice
It wasn't like they were running the football, Ocho.
It's the thing is that you realize like, okay,
if I got a Rob Peter to pay Paul,
I don't need to be going out there getting luxury items.
I need to pay the day to day.
I need to pay the mortgage.
I need to pay the light bill.
I need to pay the gas bill, the phone bill.
I need to play necessities.
So with that being said,
I know I can't get home.
Do I really want to sacrifice a back end?
That's not very good to,
begin with.
Am I really trying to put them on the island?
Because if I don't get there in,
that's why you need a guy that can win one-on-one, Ocho.
You need a guy that can win instantly.
You see how Miles Gale?
You see that?
Joe Burrow late?
No, he didn't.
Look at the get off that Miles Garrett got.
If he'd have been running track,
he'd fall started.
Because you can't go under point one.
He went point zero to three.
Let that sink in.
You got to find it.
So when Joe was saying,
he was gone.
He didn't get the tough.
Yeah.
The Ravens, Ocho, they need, they look, they need defensive linemen.
But I'm not so sure they can use a couple of corners too, Ocho.
They do.
Nah.
Listen, honestly, I like, I like Wiggins.
They just drafted him.
He's played decent.
Of course, he's gotten beat.
Well, I think we all get beat part of playing the position is your, I agree.
Yeah, you are going to get beat, but most of the time you want someone that can be clutch in certain moments and that can win majority of one-on-one battles.
And if you're elite, follow the number one receiver.
No, no, he's not there.
We get, I mean, that's what I say it.
That's reserved for Cintley.
That's reserved for, uh, who else we got, Ocho, uh, Gonzalez, uh, uh, uh, that's reserved for those guys, A.J. Terrell is reserved for guys like that.
Matt, Mitchell and in, Philly.
Yeah, that's reserved for those guys.
He don't need to follow anybody.
He probably need to be on the third,
the second or the third receiver while you bulljabing.
That's not nice, huh?
I understand what you're saying,
but young, young bull, young boy has potential.
Young bull has potential.
Outside of that, they need a premier, a premier rush.
They do.
They do.
They need a premier rush.
I don't care if you play on the left or you play on the right.
we got to get you in the building.
Yeah.
They got to get somebody in the building.
I agree.
They need a rush, preferably two.
But if you can get a true number one rusher and a solid number two Russia that can win,
I mean, they had Jadabian clown.
I mean, look, he's a guy.
If you let him get 20 snaps a game, he can generate pressure.
If you let him get 20 snaps a game.
Now, he's not a never-down player anymore.
but he still can generate,
he can still generate pressure
if you minimize the snaps.
Offensively,
they're going to probably need to get some linemen.
You're going to probably need to get a guard,
two guards.
They are,
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You would like to have more than, you'd like for Lamar,
you'd like to have more than 45 plays.
I mean, you score 24 points with 45 plays.
Lamar was 11 of 18.
You ran the ball 27 times for a buck 37.
that's what five yards
five yards of carry
you can live with that
yeah
you can live with five yards of carry
listen
Lamar was efficient when he had the ball
even if they didn't have it a lot
he was efficient with the ball
and we talked about you know
thinking you know what we should do
hell I never forget what you said
you thought they'd be their best option
was to start Tyler Huntley if Lamar
wasn't healthy man the hell you say
shit
absolutely not
I still wish Lamar did everything he could to make sure he won this game tonight.
He did.
He did. He did.
I wish Lamar could have put more pressure on him with his legs, Ocho.
He can't.
He couldn't.
You know, let me tell you something.
You know how I know he not the same?
On that third down where he couldn't get out the way.
Yeah.
You saw that guy catching?
On the third down.
Well, you saw it with the quarterback draw.
He was right.
I said, when Lamar Jackson looked like he got a piano on his back?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's tipping.
Matter of fact.
You know, he's tipping.
He's not even extending himself.
His gate is closed.
He's not even opening up.
He's moving, but he ain't moving, if that makes sense.
Yes.
He is.
To the Steelers side, Aaron Rogers, 31 and 47, 294.
They ran about 24 times, basically a little over four yards of carry.
Gainwell had a big catch.
Calvin Austin, with the sluggo.
Feeling had a big catch.
Baddust Scanlon had some big catchers.
Look, Frymouth had a big catch to set them up, get them down,
get them down to like the five-yard line.
They played well.
You know the Steelers was going to play well.
Cam Hayward, I thought Cam Hayward had a well-of-a-ball game.
I thought the D. Lyman played really, really well.
I thought there were some lanes that had the backside been able to get cut off,
that Derek Henry could have hit those,
and maybe popped it instead of getting two, three yards.
He probably could have got 10, 12 yards.
But I credit the Steelers.
They did a great job of disengaging and getting to the ball carrier.
Give those guys credit for that.
I thought the Steelers D-Line played extremely well.
Yeah, and you're like, well, how do you say they play well?
They gave up 120, 126 to Derek Henry.
But that could have easily been against Green Bay.
That 120 was 180.
That was a, that was, that was a, that was a different.
Cam, Heyward played extremely, extremely well.
I love the way I look.
He might not run fast, but from point A to point B, which is from end to end,
he gets there.
I was, I was very impressed.
I mean, Harry is in year, what's the year, year 14?
This year 14, he was in that 90, he was in that 2012 draft, Ocho,
with Cam and.
and Vaughn Miller and all those guys,
Justin Houston, Richard Sherman,
all those guys, the greatest draft,
that's the greatest draft.
That is the greatest.
The greatest?
If you look at the players in that draft,
you know Julio was in that draft, right?
AJ Green was in that draft, right?
Pat Peterson was in that draft, right?
Yeah, I got you.
Cam Hayward, Cam Jordan,
all of them was in that draft, Coach.
Hey, the greatest draft is 2001.
What?
The greatest draft is in 2001.
I just want to throw that out there.
Y'all ain't even close.
Y'all might not be better than 90.
With me, Emma, say I'll rest his soul, Ted's, rest his soul.
Y'all might not be better than us.
Listen, can you hear me?
When Chad Javon Johnson was drafted into the NFL,
that was the greatest draft.
Oh, Joe, you only one person.
I don't care.
I don't care.
Who else was in your draft class?
Michael Vick.
Okay, who else?
I can't remember the rest of the people.
Cam, Von Miller, Pat Peterson, A.J. Green,
Julio Jones, Tyron Smith, Cam Jordan, Cam Hayward, Richard Sherman, Justin Houston.
Pull up that night.
Put out of 2011 draft.
It ain't even close.
Ain't nobody close to that draft.
When you go back and look at the players in that,
that draft in that first round, Ocho.
Right.
Just the first round.
Right, right, right.
I think Sherman was, what, second, third, fourth?
When you look at that drive, Ocho, that is the greatest-
Hey, what's Sherman?
You saw Richard Sherman?
Sherman was fifth round, yes.
What, what?
He was fifth round?
Oh, JJ Watt was in that draft.
Okay.
Hey, hey, they're, hey, they're some nice boys now.
Hey, all right, everybody you name is nice,
but Ocho was drafted in 2001.
2001.
I was drafted in 2001.
The greatest entertainer of all time
was drafted in 2001.
That's me.
That's me.
But you only one player.
You got to have 20-7 mothers.
I know, I know, but it's one player that is more
entertaining and fun than everybody you just think.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give the Steelers credit.
They get an extra day.
This is not an accident.
That they put the team that played the last game
on Monday night to give them a rest
They didn't want to cheat them.
Don't make them play on Saturday.
Don't make, hey, let them play Monday night.
So this year, Ocho, we got a Monday night play our game,
something we've never had before.
Hey, matter of fact, since we never had it before,
why do we make a, why do we make a presence?
Let's make our presence felt.
You want to go to the game?
Cause.
Hey, how come every time I, every time I add?
Now I got to be in Baltimore,
then we got to be in New York.
Hey, how come
And y'all don't be telling me nothing, man
Y'all don't be telling me nothing.
I don't be knowing what's going on.
Well, I think you find out sooner later.
But how you know, how you know before me?
How I know what?
We going to New York.
You knew that.
We are the red carpet with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck,
Tiana Taylor.
What are we doing?
What are we doing with them?
What are you doing in red carpet, don't you?
Oh, we, are we from the red carpet?
We're working.
No, we're not.
Yeah, we're going to walk a red carpet.
We have to work.
Hey,
on,
live screaming from the red carpet,
Ocho.
Hold on.
I get to wear a suit.
You can wear whatever you want to wear.
Hey,
hey,
one thing you know about it
when it's time to put on some thread
and it's time to look good.
Boy, you know who comes to the party,
uh,
let me tell you,
hey,
I'm gonna be some European.
You need to communicate with Ocho.
Hey,
um,
hey,
I'm gonna be sharp,
bro.
What we're going to?
Hey, we're going to what, the Golden Globes?
We got Netflix premiere, The Rip, with Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Tiana Taylor, all those.
Okay, okay.
Hey, I know, you know, me and Ben Affleck go way back.
I'm sure you have some very interesting questions to ask them, did.
Hey, yeah, I got some good ones, but hey, I'm, hey, I'm going to be so clean, boy.
I'm going to be clean as a board of health.
You hear me?
Oh, Joe, for the first time since 2021 and for the first time since leaving the Packers after
the 2020 season, Aaron Rogers is back in the playoff.
Aaron Rogers in the post game interview.
It's been a grinding year.
And the two years before that was tough as well.
But he's back.
He's back in the post season.
It's been a while since he's been in the post season.
This is what, look, it's a tough year on him.
He's playing with, I think, a broken bone and a non-throwing hand.
It's been tough.
Yeah, yeah.
It's really tough.
when you've been as great as he is
and all of a sudden some of the things that you
took for granted that you could do with your eyes
you can't do it anymore.
You can't do it no more, Ocho.
You can't do it anymore.
But he played well tonight.
When they needed a big throw,
he came up with it.
They needed a big run.
You know, he scrambled for 20 yards.
I thought Jalen Warren ran tough.
The guys made plays.
Now, next week, they get D.K. back.
Hey, hey.
Hey, and that's a good thing because, look what Aaron was able to do without him tonight.
Listen, it was done by committee tonight.
Everybody was a part of the offense.
Frymoot balling.
Calvin Alson getting throws, getting throws.
Normally he wouldn't get before because now we ain't got no choice.
We got the county because we don't have D.K. Metcalfe.
They got my dog.
They got my daughter.
Adam Thielen involved in the game.
I wish they would use him a little bit more.
Obviously, he's a veteran presence.
He's good.
he's a rock runner i don't care how long he's been playing i don't care how old he is if you brought
him in god damn use him um outside of that i mean it's it's going to get interesting come monday night
in that playoff game yes and anytime you can't anytime you have a ron rogers someone who's used to being
in the playoffs oh chow used to being in the playoffs but you know one thing to red the one thing the
one thing the texans can do they can heat your ass up with four yeah yeah yes i mean when you're
a you ain't got to tell me twice you ain't got to tell me twice you ain't got to tell me twice
Listen, Will Anderson, the Neil Hunter.
They got Seattle Jr., they got Mario Edwards, they got Rankins,
they got Shazir, they got $2.2,000.
The DBs that they got, they can come.
They can come.
Now, the problem that concerns me is that the Houston, Texas,
don't have a run game.
It's hard, it's hard, it's hard,
Ocho to win when you don't have no resemblance of a run.
And you know the Steelers.
The Steelers like to make you one-dimensional,
just try to go hunt your quarterback.
Right.
And you know what?
When I think about it too, Unk,
Nico didn't play the game.
Stingley, some of them boys,
a lot of them rest of the day,
Unk.
Even without a run,
they've been able to still run their offense.
Yeah.
They don't need a,
they don't need a Sequin type of back.
They don't need a Devon A-10,
a back that's going to go for 150,
180, you know?
But still, just someone
that can keep it going.
keep it going and keep our offense balance keep our offense balance we don't need you
breaking a run for 80 50 yards that that's never been the texans that's that's really never
been a text if you think about it obviously the last time i think of an efficient running back
doing the extreme well in the run game was when joe mixing was hell right
i mean it's been uh before joe mixing it's been uh back before joe mixing it was area and foster
i think they had pierce why would they had a guy named peers that ran really well i don't know
what happened to him. I don't know where he is now.
Chat, baby, y'all can help us out.
But
they got their work cut out for him. They got, the Steelers got their work
cut out for him. I think both teams
have their work cut out for him. The one thing
that we do know is that they can get out of your
quarterback. They can get out of your
quarterback, Joe. Yeah, they can.
They can. I don't, I don't really
think, listen, I don't have no horse in this race.
I don't have a horse in this race, but
if I'm betting on a team to win this game,
even as great as that goddamn Texan defense is,
I'm not betting against two players,
a coaching a player that have been in the postseason multiple times.
That are used to it.
I'm not bad.
That's me.
And you know, I'm not a bet, man.
So I'm just saying based on who's been there the most
in those type of situations where they're not,
they're not rattled.
There is no pressure.
They've been there so much.
They just go out there as a quarterback.
I'm gonna just go play ball.
Well, I'm just play ball.
Okay, they got a great pass rush.
How do we counter that?
How do we counter them having a great pass rush?
Hell, motherfucking misdirection.
Quick throws.
The quick game.
Kind of like what Cincinnati do to try to get the keep miles off.
Bingo.
And they did it the entire game.
They did it all four quarters.
Congratulations to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
They win the AFC North and get a matchup with the number five seed,
the Houston, Texas on Monday night.
They beat the Baltimore Ravens by the score of 20s,
to 24.
The Ravens rookie missed a Tyler loop,
misses a 44-yard field goal.
And the Ravens go home.
What's starting?
Look, all the games that they lost early,
Ocho, they probably kicked themselves.
They lost to the Buffalo,
had a game in hand, they lose the Buffalo.
They lost some games that they probably should have won.
They probably shouldn't even been in this situation.
But you are, you are what you're really.
record says you are all this way they should have been this or they should have been that what
does their record say their records say they're under 500 team that's what they are an under 500 team
so steeles congratulations you win the aFC north 2624 over the baltimore ravens uh dk gives a
chance with 14 seconds at a time by john harbour went to the rookie kick oh cho you got a time out
in hand. You don't want to try to get no more yards?
Nah, I don't think so.
Not in that situation.
Good. You know why they did? Why? But one, he didn't because he
trusts his kicker.
A rookie in that situation?
Yeah. Yeah. He's not even looking at it like that.
You can't, you can't look at it like that. Okay.
If he, nah. Yeah, I trust my kicker. I want to, I want to end this now.
I want to end this now and win this game. I'm putting,
or a season on my rookie kicker's leg he's a rookie there's a reason we got him
and we didn't trust we wouldn't have him only only only two things can happen either
he go make it or you're going to miss oh joe it's unfortunate that he missed they ain't got no
time with the clock so it's over I'll season over and it might have caused me my job hey hey
listen I'm with you when you're right but maybe me I mean even as you said if I'm not
mistaken, well, maybe you didn't say that maybe, maybe you were just reporting it that maybe they
need a new voice in the house.
Maybe they need a new voice in the house.
Maybe they need to hear from someone else for a change.
The problem that is going to have again.
Maybe, maybe they need to tear it down and let Lamar come to Miami so we can play at home.
I'm just throwing things out there.
I'm not saying.
I'm just saying, you know.
I think the problem you're going to have, Ocho.
What?
If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, look.
Ash, look it up.
I think Derek Henry only had five carries in the second half.
What's been the recurring thing?
What's been the fans that brought the, got the fans most upset
is that all of a sudden you go away from Derek Henry.
He had 15 in the first half, and he has five in the second half.
Remember, I think he had 18 carries in the first half against Green Bay.
He has another 18 in the second half.
Oh, Cho.
Yeah.
John Harbaugh, Ozzie, Eric DeCosta, what transpired that caused us to go away from Derek Henry?
Why is he only getting five characters in the second half when he got 15 in the second half?
When he got 18 in the first half against, excuse me, Green Bay and he got 18 in the second half.
We talked about this to other time, the game before.
Wait, well, you were in got to have situations though, huh?
you weren't got to have a situation
when your team is behind
and you need to score.
Ocho, we have to tear.
Ocho, you do realize
we had the lead.
Did they score to open the drive?
Did the Steelers scoring to open the drive?
Because they got the ball coming out of the half
and it was 10-3.
They got stopped on the goal line.
Mm-hmm.
No, I'm saying in the second half
to make it 10-0.
To make it 10-10.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You got the got the half situation now.
So in the second half,
they went touchdown,
field goal, punt,
touchdown, touchdown.
Defense.
That's what you.
Yeah, you can't play in the situation
saying, oh, because of what
he did in Green Bay, I mean,
you got to do it.
Well, I think the thing is also,
you remember that interception really hurt.
He got it tipped at the line of scrimmage, and then
T.J. Walk comes from the backside, and
he picks him. So that was a,
that was a possession. You don't know what
would have happened, but you gave the Steelers
a short field, and so they got points
out of that. The last
thing that you want to do is give a team points on your possessions.
It's hard enough.
It's hard enough, Ocho.
Think about it.
And our defense, we already struggle stopping.
The last thing we want to do is put them on a short field.
Yeah.
Hell, put them back on the field, whether it's short or long or shit.
Oh, my bad.
Hey, just a, just a, just a mere fact.
Just to be a, because the worst part of the Ravens team is the defense.
I want them to play the least as possible.
All things being equal, Ocho.
I want my office on the field somewhere between 32 and 36 minutes
because that way I keep my defense on the field.
Right.
23, 24, 25 minutes.
If I can do that, I can neutralize that.
I can minimize, not neutralize, I can minimize the damage.
Minimized, yeah.
Given how bad they've been last couple of years,
I mean, considering, what they do in the second half?
The Steelers, what do they do on the second half?
Touchdown, field goal, punt.
Ocho. So in 30 minutes.
Also, we get the ball too.
They go touchdown, field goal, punt, touchdown, touchdown.
So it don't matter. It don't matter.
It don't matter what I do.
I bring them on the field.
Bad things going to happen.
You just do it. It is, chat.
Raymond fans, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Hold on. What you mean, Raymond fans? You're supposed to be talking to yourself.
Matter of fact, I'm not sure why you're so happy.
You you sound too jubilated and too joyful anyway
You should be saying and hold on well no no no no no that's we're not gonna do that we're not gonna do that you're not gonna do that you're not gonna jump the bandwagon now
We know what you made about I'm a bandwagon fan with her
Oh hold on hold on. Hey yeah yeah you you you came on the show talk about oh if your team may make the playoffs
You don't say foot or ball and well here your team may make the playoffs you claim to be a raven what happened you claim to have a ring
Oh, look at him.
Hey.
Oh, now you only a Bronco fan when it's convenient, huh?
When it's convenient?
Okay.
I'm extremely disappointed because I thought the Ravens had this game.
It was there for the taking.
And look, but that's the thing, Ocho,
when you put it on the foot of your kicker.
Yeah.
You don't know.
You don't.
I don't want to leave it up to him.
Let's get this ball in the end zone.
Because first of all, the snap.
then the hole he might bother the hole somebody might miss a block the guy come through and block it
there are so many elements now i trust john i trust myself i trust t-d i trust ed i trust rod that's what i
trust yeah and i think eelm was a tremendous kicker um and before heelma had trade well but with
that being said so what you're saying are you rather than one one more play and put the ball in
to make a play.
Yes.
Yes.
I like it.
Absolutely.
I like it.
I like it.
Let me get some of this liquor before we start this game.
Go ahead.
Come on, chat.
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Here's the playoff pitcher.
Four or five matchup,
the Pittsburgh Steelers take on the Houston Texans
on Monday night.
The Buffalo Bills
take on the Jacksonville Jaguars
on Sunday.
The number seven seed,
Chargers, take on the number two seed,
New England Patriots.
So what games is Saturday?
Oh, so basically NFC games.
Okay.
So Rams Packers, the 7-2C, Rams Panthers,
excuse me, Rams Panthers, and then the Green Bay, Chicago.
Right.
So they're three-game Sunday, two-game Saturday, three-game Sunday, one game on Monday night.
Some good matchups.
You remember about three weeks or four weeks ago,
the Carolina Panthers beat the Los Angeles Rams in Carolina.
They make a return trip.
This time, will it be different?
Philadelphia Eagles, rested a lot of their starters.
They get the San Francisco 49ers, the sixth seed.
And Green Bay rested some of their starters,
but they get the two-seed Chicago Bears
who had a valued combat, but it was all for not.
They ended up kick of the field goal, and they win the game.
No, Detroit, you know, it was 16-0.
Chicago get two scores, two-point conversion,
and then they go down the field and score touchdown
and they win the game.
But they don't miss the playoff.
So the two number one seeds are the Denver Broncos
and the Seattle Seahawks.
They will play the lower of the seeds that advance.
So they're either playing seven, six,
Could play five or four.
But whoever the lower seed is, that's who they're going to get.
So we'll see how it shapes out, Ocho.
I'm ready.
The Panthers squeeze into the playoffs.
Wait, the who?
The who?
The Carolina Panthers squeezing to the playoffs,
thanks to the hell from the Atlanta Falcons,
who beat the New Orleans saves by the score of 19 to 17.
A Falcons win was enough to send the Panthers to the postseason
and send Tampa Bay home.
Carolina Panthers haven't made an NFL playoff since 2017, and they haven't hosted the playoff game in nearly a decade.
This also marks the owners David Tepers first trip to the postseason since he purchased a team in July of 2018.
Hours after the game, Ocho, Falcons fired head coach Rahim Morris and GM Terry Fontno after two straight disappointing seasons.
The Atlanta Falcons wrapped up
an eight and nine campaign.
Fottano has been the Falcons general manager
since 2021.
Morris was hired in 2024.
I thought Terry Fawthawth
did a good job.
You look at who he drafted.
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts,
B. John Robinson,
Michael Pennix Jr.,
Pierce, Johnson.
They got some talent, though, Joe.
They got some talent.
Listen, they got some talent.
fortunate that they won't be there to see that talent
continue to flourish over there
in Atlanta. Obviously, Arthur Blank
very short of patience, only allowing
Rahim three years. Fontaine
allowing him three years and
he sees fit. They're going
in other directions for his team.
Listen, Farno's been there for five.
Rahim. He's been there five since 2021.
Rahim been there for three.
Since 2024. He's been to
two years.
Damn.
They let him go.
He let him go already.
I wouldn't be surprised
We're going to talk about this match up a little later
I would not be surprised if they let Aaron Ginglowe go
Ocho, remember?
After one?
Did they let Gerard Mayo go after one?
Did they let Steve Wilkes go after one?
When you feel you got towers.
Hey, hold on.
Hey, it's show as a short leash, uh, if show is short,
you know what, you know what, I'm not, you know what?
Jaylon Walker, that's the first round pick.
He was the first round.
pick Jalen Walker okay
and Pierce Jr.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, um, you see how
you see how God continue to open doors
and you're acting like you're blind to it, huh?
What do you have open doors for?
As a matter of fact, I'm about to sell my house in Atlanta.
I ain't trying to go away to here.
Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Listen, I'm close with Arthur Blank.
Now, I could put your name in the hat if you want to get your
number.
I can call it myself.
Okay. Well, you might want to shoot on a text.
If I do, I want to say, ask him how he's doing.
Make sure you know, you do it okay.
That's it.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
Oh, Chuck.
Kirk Cousin, 18 or 32, one touchdown, one of deception.
Bejohn Robinson, 15 for 33.
They had 25 carriers, 49 yards.
Tyler Shook was 23 or 35, 259, one touchdown, one of deception.
They ran the ball 26 time for 108 yards.
Juan Johnson 3 for 61.
Dante Peders, 5 for 60.
Adrick Estime,
5 for 43.
Yeah.
That interception, that killed the Saints.
That intercession killed the Saints.
The timing of when it actually happened,
it killed all momentum and their chances to actually win this game
once the Falcon got the ball back in that situation.
I mean, the Saints didn't play bad, huh?
They was able to hold Bejan only 33 yards.
Drake London only had 78
Outside of that it was a good game
It was a very good divisional
Divisional game
Where the team that made the few of the mistakes
Was gonna win the game and that's exactly what happened
I think Jay Glazier is
Is reporting
That Ryan is in line to be
A you know a senior something at the Falcon
Didn't he report that
What?
For real
Hey that's nice
Can you imagine, let's say, let's say,
a high profile for an office role.
Well, the only road is high profile is general manager,
the GM.
Right.
He ain't about to be the owner.
He's not going to be the BP.
So those are the only two high profile role.
You get to be BP or you get to be the GM.
So there's a good chance.
Matt Ryan going to be the new GM.
There's a good chance.
And being able to oversee and building that team into what it is they may need, you
No, that's dope for the future.
That's dope.
Does that happen often?
Or more players should be afforded the opportunity to be in those positions.
Well, you see, look, Tom Brady has a role in the Raiders.
Yeah.
Who is that?
Troy is getting advice, has the ear of your team, the guppies.
Right.
So it's starting to happen more.
Hmm.
Well, maybe, maybe I want to the opportunity.
would present itself for me to have some type of front office role in Cincinnati.
That's a family.
That's a family run business.
That ain't happening.
You know that.
And I'm a part of the family.
I'm not sure if you knew.
First of all,
you know the Cincinnati biggest more than anybody.
Yeah.
So you know is Mike Brown,
his daughter,
his son-in-law,
and that.
80, you know, Troy.
Yeah.
And listen, hold on.
You're not.
and right up other than me.
Yeah, right, right up under the other than.
But if I need anything,
you know how you can call the Broncos, huh?
If you need anything.
But if I need anything,
and I'm not even talking about football related.
I'm talking about if I was down to my last,
you hear me?
Hey, Chad, listen to me real quick.
If I was down to my last song.
Dan Morgan's in the role in the Carolina.
In the Carolina, that's right, right.
Is Keekly doing anything for the,
I don't think Keekly is doing anything.
anything for the yeah monk you're not hearing what i'm saying though um monk if i were down to my last
boy and i about to be homeless and i need to i i need a little help i can make i can make that
call but everybody can't do that what yeah i'm talking oh i need i need some cash i am hey listen to me
i am have no value to you anymore but you know what i'm in a bad position can you low me something
yeah well look yeah now if the bowler was in situation now i i i'm in a situation i i i
I had that kind of relationship with the bowling.
I don't know.
I have a great, the time that I've spoken to Rob and the Panners,
they've been great to me.
So I don't want people to come up.
Well, Shannon can't go back to the Broncos.
They open up the facilities and let me sit down and interview John just last week,
two weeks ago.
So the Ravens, excuse me, the Broncos have been great to Shannon Sharp.
But I don't have, I didn't play for them.
It's a different type of relationship.
I played for Mr. B.
I had a personal relationship with Mr. B.
They're doing,
I think they're going to release a documentary.
And his daughters reached out and asked me what I talk
because of the relationship that I had with Mr. B.
Yes.
It was next to John.
It's hard to say that his favorite player wasn't,
184, Sharpie.
So, but no, the Bravins have been,
the Ravens, I keep saying the Ravens,
because we just talked, just talked about them.
The Broncos have been great.
Most of the time I just call I call Chip
Chip I need something
I'm getting some more of these cups
I need some more these cups
If I need hat
If I need gear I need paraphernalia
Something like that
I'm something like that
I'll just call I reach out to Chip
Or I reach out to a flip
A flip I need a helmet flip
I need some I need some tees
Just hey what you need Sharpey
So but no
The Broncos have been great to Shannon Sharp
The Broncos have been great
The Broncos help put Shannon Sharp's kids
through college, through private school,
hey, take care of his family.
The Broncos, the Broncos first and the Ravens.
The Broncos started it.
The Ravens made late, it's like, okay,
if I want to work after my career, I can,
but if I don't, I can shut it down.
Ocho, the Eagles, Nick Sariani,
stood by resting many of his starters
in the regular season finale against the commanders,
even though the decision negatively affected its team seating.
The Eagles needed to win over Washington Day,
plus a bear's lost,
excuse me,
to the Lions to move into the number two seed.
Yes, the two seed.
Instead, they lost,
and so they get the number three seed.
The Lions held up there,
and they won 19 to 16,
but the Eagles lost 2417,
locking them into the three seed on the matchup
with the six-seeded 49ers.
Remember, Ocho.
Yeah.
Two years, three years ago,
this was the matchup
in which Purdy,
hurt his arm,
And basically they had to run wildcat.
Christian McCaffrey was trying to throw passes.
Debo was trying to throw passes.
So this is kind of rematch for the NFC championship game.
Oh, Joe, do you have any problem with the Eagles doing what they did?
Absolutely not.
Siriani and Siriani, I'm sure Siriani talked to the boys.
Listen, I'm going to rest y'all.
I want y'all nice, fresh and healthy.
For those of you that are banged up, I want for those of you that are hurt right now,
or have a little nicks and whatever it may be,
I'm going to give you a week off
because I want you to heal.
I want to be fresh.
I don't care what seed we are.
I don't care what seed we are.
We're going to find out who we plan.
Y'all going to sit here and watch all my backups
and my third stringers,
y'all getting all your action today.
Y'all get your action day.
Whether we win or not, I'm not tripping.
We're not worried about the results
on anyone else's game.
And where it puts us at.
Whatever seed we're at,
y'all going to be ready to go when it's time to play.
Honestly, I like it.
I like it, especially with the way they've looked,
they've been up and down all season long.
Nah, it's one game.
Now it's one game I go home.
It's one game I go home.
It don't matter.
It don't matter when we see that.
We don't really see it.
It's still one game.
We don't care whether we get a high seat.
We get a low seat.
We still have to play the game of football.
Y'all, y'all make it seem like any of these teams can't kick your ass.
They're in the playoffs.
At this point.
At this point, yeah.
They're in the playoffs.
And I get it.
It's like, well, wouldn't you rather face the Packers?
No, I'd rather place nobody.
But unfortunately, I got to play somebody to advance.
Ain't nobody forfeit it.
Everybody's going to show up.
Look, they're going to tee the ball up.
They're going to kick it off to us first,
or we're going to kick it off to them first.
But at some point in time, we're going to play 60 minutes.
And if we don't just get it done in 60 minutes,
we're going to go overtime for 10 minutes.
But we're going to decide that somebody's going to advance.
It's really that simple.
So you, man, I'd rather play this team.
And you must ride and catch a hot team and they light your ass up.
Then what?
Yep.
And you'd be mad.
In matter of fact, that a hot team that light your ass up could be a lower seed.
And what happens?
You go out there and you get J.ler Hertz nicked.
You go get Devonte played, but you get AJ Nick or you get one of those different.
You get Michael or Mitchell or Dijon.
You get them Nick.
Then what?
Man, I don't know why you're playing them.
You already.
in the playoffs.
Yeah.
It was smart.
I agree.
It was smart.
I agree.
I thought,
I think in a situation like that,
there's much more to lose the game.
Yeah.
Because it's not like,
it's not like,
okay,
if there's an opportunity for us to get a buy,
I guarantee you he to play them.
If it was like it was before Ocho,
when you get two buys,
I guarantee you he to play them.
But now there's only opportunity
if there's only going to be one buy, and that that bias was already, uh, uh, a substantiated,
was, was validated last night.
No, I'm good, because I ain't been to get no guys, Nick.
Hell now.
Yep, y'all.
Mix.
So that's where we are right now, Ocho.
Josh Johnson, where's the last time?
This is the first touchdown pass Josh Johnson thrown in how long,
his first win?
When was the last time Josh Johnson won a game?
How long?
long has been.
Well, he ain't won that many.
He ain't won that video, Cho.
Josh, hey, Josh now played for a few teams, uh-uh.
This is the first game he's won.
This is the second game he's won in his whole career.
Real?
I think he's his first touchdown pass he's thrown since 21.
But hey, hey, congratulations to Josh, man.
Since 21.
Congrats, bro.
Hey, key, hey.
Keep drawing, cool.
Stay in there as long as you can.
Make them kick you out.
Hey.
Hey, y'all can have to kick.
Hey, y'all will kick me out.
Hey, one thing about being a backup quarterback,
you can play that thing damn near 20 years.
You can be a backup quarterback when you don't have expect,
when you haven't been great.
Great players is hard for them to be a backup.
Right.
Well, good players can be a backup.
When that's mainly what you've been.
He's a backup.
A, sir, you're serviceable.
Yes.
Yes.
You get a guy like John McCown.
You get a guy like Fitzpatrick.
They're going to play 15, 16, 17, 18 years.
But when you've been a starter, see, when you've been a starter, Ocho,
no matter how old you get, people have the same level of expectations.
It takes him.
People have the same level of expectation for LeBron at 41 to have for him at 27.
See, he don't get to be that role player to come in.
up the bench the seventh, eighth guy, play 15, 16 years.
Nah, bro, they see LeBron James.
Right.
Aaron Rogers.
Any great player, they see that.
All they see is Aaron Rogers.
They expect Aaron Rogers to be a four-time league MVP.
So that's why, that's why it's easy.
You see the guy, man, man, I joke, play, how many years?
A bunch of years ain't starting none of them.
They don't, they're not letting me and you get no years, oh, Cho.
Oh, no.
But that's all you.
Okay.
All right, going home.
Yeah.
That's all you got.
You could go home now.
But no, I don't have a problem.
I thought Tanna McKee late.
Tiana McKee was 21 of 40,
241, one touchdown, one interception,
tank big,
a Biggsby, 16 for 75.
They ran the ball 19 times for 80 yards,
basically four yards to carry.
Devante got his thousand yards, right?
That's what Devonte needed.
He got his thousand yards.
Let Devonte get his thousand.
Get up out of there.
Get him up out of there.
I thought Jeremiah Trott's Jr.
Play well.
He stopped to run.
His dad,
that's what his dad was.
Dad,
would you come down here?
Yeah,
hey,
he was a thump.
He was a thumpel boy.
But no,
I thought,
look,
he did,
they did what they were supposed to do.
Let's get healthy.
Right.
Right.
And this is,
this is a funny thing about it, too.
The 49ers,
as great as they are offensively,
the defense's not that good.
The goddamn,
the defense is not.
They don't have no rush.
Yeah, that's why I say,
hold on,
that's why I say it offensively,
but the Eagles match up
with they as bar for bar
on every level.
At the receiver position,
being able to stifle McCaffrey,
the Eagles are one of the few teams
that have a defense
that can deal with all the things
that Shanahan offense does well.
I agree.
So that,
That's why, hey, that's even better.
I know who we got?
We got who?
Okay, bet.
Hold my beer.
That's going to be a good game.
It's going to be a good game.
But obviously, because the Eagle defense is so good and because they match up well,
it's a perfect matchup for the Eagle Defense, I got them winning the game anyway.
It's going to be a good game.
It's going to be a very good game.
But right now, the two hottest teams going into the playoffs, the Seahawks and the Jacksonville Jags.
Oh, yeah.
Jacksonville, Jags, man.
Absolutely.
Hey, I don't know what Trevor Lauren did before the season.
I don't know what he did before the season started.
Yeah, but the Eagles, the number three seed draw, the number six seed and the San Francisco 49ers, that game is on Sunday.
So tune in.
Let's see if the Eagles start their quest to repeat as Super Bowl champs.
It's going to be a very interesting matchup.
You get Brock Purdy against Jalen Hertz.
You may the best team win.
Hey, one game, ma'am.
It's one game.
Oh, Joe, with his one sack of Joe Burrow in the fourth quarter,
Miles Garrett reached 23 for the season,
breaking the NFL single season sack record.
This push of Garrett, previous record of 22 and a half,
set by Pro Football Hall of Famers,
Paula Famer, Michael Strayhand,
and matched by T.J. Watt.
They've been a couple of guys.
Justin Houston had 22.
Jared Allen had 22.
They've been some 21s, but no one has ever reached the total of 23.
And that's what Miles Garrett did.
The Salty Bengals weren't happy by the referees allowing the game stoppage for the Browns to celebrate the record.
Let's take a listen to what Zach Taylor had to say after the game.
A long conversation with the officials after the Garrett's sack.
What was going on there?
There's five minutes left in our season.
We're playing for our lives here.
And I was never told that we're going to stop the game.
And in a critical moment like that,
and the refs just said that they made a decision that they were going to stop the game.
And they said they tried to do it as quickly as possible.
I didn't feel that.
We didn't sub.
We're trying to be on the ball and go and play with tempo.
And the empire just held the ball.
ball so that we couldn't do anything. And I'm yelling at Joe, get on the ball. We didn't sub,
we're going, and then we couldn't play. And so, again, trying to get an answer was not easy.
They just said that they made a decision as a crew to stop the game when that happened.
I guess it didn't matter when it happened. It's just they were going to stop the game and let it happen.
And you weren't informed that. No, I was never informed to that. They didn't say one word.
We meet with them in the 90-minute meeting before the game. They never said one word about that.
Officials, they make no decision. The NFL made a decision.
Yeah, I mean, does it, Zach didn't know that?
What are you thinking?
So he thought, so hold on, Ocho, so let me get this right.
So he thought they were going to get this.
Let me get this right now, Ocho.
So you found, so you can't follow with me.
So Zach thought if Miles Gadd break the sack record,
they're going to keep on going.
Just keep going like nothing happened.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
give the people context.
He bought the, he broke the NFL record.
Since the sack became an official stat in 19,
In 1982, proud of 1982, the sack was not an official stat.
There are stats where Deacon Jones had 24, 25, Coy Bacon had this or that, whatever the case may be.
In 1982, it became an official stat.
With that being said, the most sacks ever occurred in an official season was 22 and a half.
Michael Strayhand in 2001 and T.J. Watt, I think his was in 2021.
that was uh gastonote broke the record i think gastonote did the record was in 1984
yes i think 22 22 was the record by mark gastonore in 1984
so did this man he really really think maybe i don't know he honestly with the way he
the way the interview and the seriousness in his tone and face i really think he thought it was the
refs not understanding that's the NFL call hey i don't give i don't care how much time i'm
o'clock. I don't care about the situation that's going on at the time.
We're going to celebrate Miles Garrett getting that sack.
No matter of what.
Hey, and matter of fact, I told you I'm going to get my jersey.
I told you.
I told you.
Hey, chat.
You lost.
Chat.
You told you fighting for your life.
World life.
Y'all are life support.
We've been pulling a plug on y'all.
We're using your, we're your donors.
Wait, what you mean?
We wanted to finish.
All the donors.
Right way.
That's what he said.
You have Oregon.
On your license, you have Oregon donor.
No, no.
We wanted to finish our season off the right way.
Even if we got to go to Cancun, if we got to go to Cancun, we want to go to Cancun on a high note.
With a W.
With a win.
That's all.
That's all.
But, hey, like I.
Your heart, we took that.
We gave it to somebody that could use it.
Your love, we gave that to somebody that can use it.
So okay, you're a donor.
I just want you.
to know. I'm sorry. I appreciate you. I appreciate it.
It's all good. Some other team got life.
Thanks to you. It's all good.
Now, I want you to take y'all sad ass home and stop complaining.
Y'all lost to the Browns. The Browns.
So you, I mean, we, we're a bad team too. So you, you act.
Worse. So you want to talk, hold on. You want to talk about the defense? How many
points did the defense give up because you criticize the defense all the time i want you to get your
happy ass on here and tell the chat how did the browns get 14 points turn no no no no i want you
say turnovers who turned it over the offense turned the ball who what you mean who when you say
who i want to know who specifically who turned it over what happened it was an interception
Well, damn, the chap might not know who played quarterback for the Bengals.
They know who played quarterback for the Bengals?
He went number nine.
What's on the back of it?
I think it's Joe.
So, hey, you sure.
Hey, you show is excited.
I'm trying to figure out what was this energy when we were talking about the Ravens.
What?
Where was this energy?
We passed the Raven.
Y'all had a, no, no, no.
Y'all had a chance to go to the playoffs and blue it.
We weren't going to the playoffs.
We were just playing trying to win a try to buy it by home boy
Why you're talking about home being by home boy?
We over here having a great conversation and you ruined it you ended up the mood
You rude I'm just saying we weren't playing for nothing except the win we wanted we wanted to go home on a high note and you weren't able to do that
It's cool. It's cool. I know one thing the sun will be shining in the cancun
Man tell him something about taking me shine in the can't
I ain't up in the Cancun.
Hey, let me ask you a question.
Matter of fact, y'all play next week, right?
No.
Y'all got a back.
Okay, well, we'll see y'all in Cancun in two weeks.
Don't worry about it.
Whoa, whoa, wow, why you're gonna-ha-ha-ha.
Hey, we'll see y'all-a-can-cool in the team.
No, no, no, no, I'm not.
I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you, why you get, why you here,
you're so excited, you talk of trash by my bangles.
You know, we, we're just telling you.
want to the playoffs hi-fired hey oh joe you got the official the official
high-fired how five what's it called Shelby Harry gave a high-five with
Miles Gary got the sack I mean listen ain't no thing I got my jersey though you
heard me hey he did a hey I can't turn his hand can I turn his hand no don't
break don't worry about we don't break seven we do the six seven hey what you know
about six seven
I don't know.
I know y'all team ain't going nowhere.
And we use y'all for parks.
That's fine.
We'll be back next year.
You said that last year.
Don't worry about it.
Eventually you're going to be right, Ocho.
Oh, I was, I was, I'm always right.
I'm always right.
I didn't get it.
Well, I tell you what.
I got to go to the bathroom.
Go ahead.
Hey, chat.
Hold it down.
Hey, Chad.
I'm glad y'all get to be with me real quick.
Obviously, Miles Garrett now,
the NFL sack leader with 23.
I talked to Miles Gary after the game.
He's going to send me that jersey.
He's going to send me that game jersey.
I'm happy.
I'm elated.
I'm excited.
And I'm going to hang it.
I'm getting ready to do my game room.
They're getting ready to do my game room in about two, three weeks and change everything up.
So when I get all my wars from Ash and Unk, they're going to be right here Placid behind me.
And I'm going to put an Ocho jersey and a Miles Garrett jersey on the other side.
And that is going to be one of my.
prize possessions that I've ever gotten from anyone.
And I appreciate Miles for that.
And I think that's a dope thing. That's a dope thing.
I'm sure that people in can probably want it, but it's not happening.
It's not happening because he promised me the jersey first.
And I'd hate, I'd hate to have to beat Miles Garrett ass for lying to me and not giving me that jersey.
And that's pretty much it.
And that makes me happy.
Un, where you go, Un?
Ash, where Ungo?
Oh, my bad.
Chat, talk to him.
Cap, no, I'm not lying, man.
Y'all always talk about I'm lying.
Why would I lie?
What do I get out of lying?
Think about it.
What do I get out of that?
I got the jersey.
He signed it for me.
He's mailing it to me, and there'll probably be here Tuesday.
Yeah.
I like it.
What's the next game?
To about Broncos.
Bronco got the bye week.
He talked about my, he excited by the damn bang was losing,
but the Ravens done.
lost and he was all happy and elated like y'all like they ain't going home too but we all we we all in
kankoon what other jerseys i got oh i got some of the best jersey man my jersey collection
only i got a two a jersey and a zach wilson jersey joe burrow jimar jason t higgins that's it
not just not just any jersey i got like the 1980 hold on what i do it's at
Hey, hey, I'm showing, I'm showing people my jersey, my, you see, you see this?
Hey, um, remember this, remember the leap and tire?
Yeah.
This during, this during unc time back in the 80s.
See, no, nobody got this.
This is one-on-one.
So I'm hanging this next to, uh, next to Miles.
When Miles sent me the jersey, I'm hanging in a chat.
I heard a lot of people talking about, well, T.J. Watt broke the record in this many games and this, we're not going to do that.
Because when Jerry said the NFL record for the most touchdowns in a single season, he did it in 12 games.
Randy broke his record in 16 games, and y'all didn't say that.
When Eric Dickinson broke OJ's record, OJ rushed for 2014 games.
Nobody ever said that.
Now this man got the record.
Y'all want to come up with all this stuff.
He did it in 15.
The NFL sack record is 23.
Miles Garrett, hoarse.
it.
He did, y'all talk about games.
Look at the amount of snaps that it took Miles Garrett to break that record,
which is the equivalent of probably like five games.
Don't do that.
Don't try to shortchange the man.
Again, when Randy Moss broke Jerry Rice's record,
Jerry Rice had 22 touchdowns in 12 games.
Yeah, but they threw the man the ball.
They threw in the ball every play.
And nobody said anything.
The NFL record now is 23.
Miles Garrett holds it.
So I don't want to hear nothing about how many games.
I don't want to hear about nothing.
Miles Garrett holds the NFL sack record.
Because a lot of these records,
I mean, when Jim Brown did what he's doing,
they're playing 12 games.
Ain't nobody say nothing.
OJ did what he did in 14 games.
Rested his soul, rest of Jim Brown sold.
Now y'all because somebody broke it,
Your team guy don't have the record no more.
Y'all try to minimize the guy,
but I ain't going to let y'all do it because I'm old enough to remember.
I don't think, man, who would do that, huh?
They're doing it.
A lot of Pittsburgh Steelers fans are doing it.
Talk about he did it in 15 games.
Man, it doesn't matter how many games you got it done.
You got it done.
It doesn't matter.
That's an amazing feat.
You know how hard to get hit something's happening.
Any record.
But you know how hard it is?
I mean, listen, you look at the computer.
comparison between someone like a T.J.
Watt, a Miles Garrett,
a Brian Burns in the season that they had in here.
You know how many defensive ends?
Is it?
It is in the NFL?
That are nowhere close to that.
That is crazy.
Maybe people don't understand.
Somebody will probably understand how hard it is to get a sack.
And eventually somebody's going to break a Payton's record.
Payton threw for 5,400 and 7477.
He comes.
He could have had more because he came out at half.
Hold on, that's the 55 touchdown.
Somebody's going to throw.
Hey, it is what it is.
He broke the record.
Dan Marino had the record at 50.
No, to take that back, had 48.
Tom had the record 50.
Peyton broke that record with 55.
Somebody going to throw 56.
It is what it is, guys.
They did the same thing
with Roger Maris
broke Brave Ruth record.
They tried to put an asterisk
by it for the longest.
No, we're nothing to do.
We're not.
We not.
We not.
Because every time y'all tried to do it,
I'm going to remind you,
somebody had the record
in less games than when they broke the record.
Right.
And y'all didn't say it.
And think about it.
Sacks only became an official stat.
The interception,
I mean, think about it.
What was the record,
Dick Knight Train Lane.
He got 14.
I think they played like 12 games back then.
Some records ain't going to be broken.
That 81 interceptions,
ain't nobody getting 81 interceptions,
don't you join the career.
You can forget that.
Who had 81?
Who had 81?
181?
81?
Oh.
Yes.
81.
How many years he played?
I think Kraus played like 14, 15.
He played 16.
Cross played 16.
Ain't nobody breaking it.
They can play 20.
Eighty one.
I think Rod, how many Rod got,
Rod got, like, Rod Wilson got 71?
Yes.
A Rob would say, Rod with a corner moved to safety.
Rod had great hands.
Yeah.
Guys that if you could catch,
a lot of guys can't catch like Ed,
Ed Reed could like really, really catch.
No, but Rod could really, really catch.
Mm-hmm.
That's crazy, man.
You go back and look at some of these staff.
Now, eventually, look, with all these games,
somebody's probably going to pass,
catch 1,500.
I think Jerry got over 1,500.
And by the time,
they played 10, 12 years,
that's another season.
Damn.
It is what it is.
That's unfair.
That's unfair because now, you know,
those whose records are getting broken,
and you can't play no more.
I want to see the guy that break Jerry touchdown record,
not 197,
receiving.
I want to see that.
That's your hope I'm allowed to see that.
That's going to be hard.
Think about it, Ocho.
That's a lot of touchdowns.
The man got 2,500 yards after the age of 40.
Hey, at a dependent position.
Yes.
The man caught 1,200 yards at 40.
Yeah.
It went to the pro bowl.
so
oh you got to be in good
with the organization work
you got to be in good work
100
to even put you in position
to allow you the opportunities
to be able to have success
and production at that age
you got to be good with that organization
and also you can't be a goddamn
salary cap casualty
so that's the problem
what 300 consecutive starts
oh he was healthy
he was always available
do you know how many
do you know
know how many, I mean, 300, ohcho?
Yeah, that's a lot.
That's a lot.
So you got to get up to a great start.
You got to start off with 12.
You got to get,
you got to have a couple of seasons
of double digit picks to even think about getting the 80.
That fours and fives ain't going to cut it.
No.
Because you play 15 years and you get four picks a season.
Or five picks a season.
That's still 75.
Hmm.
you're going to have you're going to have to do a lot of gambling too and but you got to start you got to get that number early but you got to move to a safety position because you ain't fit to be playing no corner position unless you're darrell green all the even great corners they start to fall off and then they move to the safety they go to safety you look at time he moved to safety rod moved to safety annias moved to safety only darrell played his entire career at the corner position yeah at corner yeah
Hey, man, hell, Prime was that safe.
And we played the Ravens when he wore 37.
I think the thing is, Ocho, is that I get, look, I get, I remember, I remember on Monday night
when the Jets played the Raiders and Tim Brown caught his hundred touchdown.
Man, they brought everybody on the field.
They brought Tim Mama, they brought his wife, they bought the kids.
They stopped the game for like 20 minutes.
Real?
Yes.
Go back and look it up.
of the Monday night.
They brought everybody out there on the field.
They must have been playing home.
He's lucky.
Okay, okay, okay.
Can you imagine if they play in Cleveland?
They'd have brought his mom, his dad out the stairs?
Yes.
They probably would have, hold on.
Well, they couldn't have, they couldn't have a TJ
because T.J was playing his straight ahead with his studio.
Because they normally, a lot of times,
if so I was going to break the record, the guys were retired.
And so they have the guy to pass it, you know,
Because when I broke Ozzy's record,
he's the general manager, he's there.
He handed me to football.
Right.
But no, we're not going to do that yet.
Miles Garrett is now the NFL single season sack leader.
Hey, at the pace he's going,
he's going to be the NFL sack leader with his office and done.
Because he got, how many he got now, Ash, almost 130?
He got 125 sacks.
Have he played 10 years?
He's nine years.
And he only.
And he only 30 now.
Yeah.
Oh,
he just finished his ninth year.
So the record,
so he needs 70,
he need 76 sacks to be the all-time leader.
Brucey played like 19 years.
Yeah.
Oh,
he,
he has a good chance to get it.
Long as he stay healthy.
He has a great chance to go.
Reggie had 198 in 15 years.
Ain't getting that.
Hey.
But you got to realize
Reggie played one year in the USFL.
I think it was 84.
He played in the US.
Might have been 83.
He played his first season in Memphis
because he was a Tennessee
and it was regional then.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Miles Garrett,
congratulations.
The SAC, single season SAC leader.
Stay healthy.
Continue success, bro.
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I'm Ashley Rayfeld, the host of the podcast. Good luck with that.
Good luck with that is a skateboarding podcast about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding.
In our show, we'll talk with skaters like Bobby Delphino on pushing style, culture, and the conversation forward.
You break down the door, sick now like hold the door for everyone.
I believe in that solely.
So listen to Good Luck With That on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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