Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Steelers impressive, Anthony Richardson’s future, McCarthy calls out Diggs

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Russell Wilson and the Pittsburgh Steelers win over Daniel Jones the New York Giants on Monday Night Football and move to 6-2 atop the AFC North. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Indianapolis Colts QB Anthony Richardson saying he sat out of a play because he was “tired” and worry for the young QB’s future and confidence if he loses his starting spot, Dallas Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy telling Trevon Diggs he needs to “stay on the high road” after confrontation with the media and much more!03:17 - Show start03:37 - Intro05:16 - Giants lose to Steelers20:26 - Colts QB change30:05 - McCarthy/Diggs44:40 - Sean Payton48:00 - Hasson Reddick50:00 - Artist of D-Wade’s statue57:30 - LeBron extends scoring streak01:00:00 - Dodgers beat Yankees(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it was a huge win against the Giants because they moved to 6-2 and are comfortable atop the AFC North. Considering the Ravens lost yesterday, the Cincinnati Bengals are in a tailspin and the Cleveland finally got one again, but they've been hovering around

bad to worse. As you can see our graphics, Ocho, we got graphics now, bro. Check that out. Can you see it on the board?cho, we got graphics. Now, bro, check that out. Can you see it on the board? Nah, nah, nah. Where is that? Where is that? Let me see.

Let me see. Let me see. You got 26-18 the final. You got pass yards 259 to 237. Rush yards 167 to 157. Touchdowns, one with an asterisk because they threw one touchdown and the other touchdown came via punt return.

426 total yards for the Steelers, 394 for the Giants. I thought the Giants played well. They ran the football. I thought Daniel Jones was throwing the ball well, but somehow that injury bug late in the ball game, I mean, excuse me, that turnover bug rears its head and it bites him in the most inopportune of times because i thought up until that point he was 24 35 to uh 264 uh tracy ran

the ball extremely well 20 carries a buck 45 they had 25 rushes 157 yards in a touchdown darius slayton four catches for a buckle, eight. Neighbors, seven for 71. So they were moving the ball, and I would like to see if they could have done something, but he got a little pressure, floated the ball over the running back's head, and it ends at an interception. Great job by Benny Bishop Jr. to seal that with an INT,

but he's got to get over that hump. That's the only thing that's really, you know, it's hard to say what a quarterback can or couldn't be when he's known to turn the football over because he puts his teams in harm's way, Ocho, and all turnovers aren't created equal. Equal, yeah. That late in the ball game, you're doomed.

You turn the ball over in the first quarter, Ocho, you got a chance to overcome it, but not at that point. Yeah, listen, you talk about turning the ball over in the first quarter Ojo you got a chance to overcome it but not at that point yeah listen you talk about turning the ball over it interrupts the team you know and you do him turn the ball over that's what gets the coach fired

hey I don't even know if Brian the ball is on the hot seat but the way Dane Jones is playing you know who won't take the issue for that yeah he is. Everybody's going to get fired. Everybody's going to get fired. Before I even talk about the game in general, I just want to salute the Steelers.

I want to salute the Steelers. I want to salute Mike Tomlin on having to make a tough decision. And Russell Wilson having Mike Tomlin's back on that decision he made and keeping his promise and keeping his word. When he named the starter for the nfl season it was russell wilson obviously the injuries happened before the season started justin pierce came in and played phenomenal obviously they started three and oh uh then went to four and two then russell wilson took the helm he's one of the last two

games uh tonight's game it was really good it started off really good especially the run game but now it started very very very good but it was the snooze fest i'm gonna just be honest with you tonight's game was really good. It started off really good, especially the run game. But not the end. It started very, very, very good. But it was a snooze fest. I'm going to just be honest with you. The game was a snooze fest. The first quarter was a snooze fest. The second quarter was a snooze fest.

And somewhere at the middle of the third to the end of the game, all of a sudden it gets exciting. He's completing passes to Jefferson. He's completing passes to goddamn George Pickens. Austin. Pickens, Austin. Yeah, Austin and Pickens. Then penalties hurt the Steelers early in the game.

The score could have been much further away from this if you take some of the penalties away. It takes some of the... I think it's one or two touchdowns if I'm not mistaken. George Pickens,

if you get both feet down, that's another touchdown. Hell, I thought two-one foot was two feet. We were equal two, right? Yeah, I thought he hopped. But that's what I thought, Ochoa. I honestly did. Oh, you did? For real? I did, yeah.

That's two feet. Yeah, I know when he doubled up on the right, I knew they weren't going to count it, though. I knew they weren't going to count it. But tonight's game was really good. I'm really happy and I can say this as a Bengal and I have no problem I thought the Steelers

I thought they would struggle when the season started because the quarterback, not really controversy, but because of the quarterback carousel they obviously, they started 3-0, like oh shit based on what I saw from Justin Fields last year, I didn't know what justin fields we would get because he was up and down when he was chicago he comes out and plays phenomenal

then yes the back change is made i'm like oh what russell wilson are we gonna get are we gonna get seattle seahawks russell wilson i'm gonna get the the last year denver russell wilson dude he's playing really good he's playing really really good He's playing really, really good football. And man, salute, salute to the city of hell. Salute to goddamn TJ fucking Watt. High school. Benny Bishop. Joey put, man, them boys playing some ball, man. Man, look, I am not worried about Watt.

Watt's going to go to the Hall of Fame. That's going to be his next stop. His next stop is going to be in the Hall of Fame. He's that good. He's had that good. He's had that good a career. You look at a player of the year, a defensive player of the year, he could have had another one of those awards.

I think he finished second one year to Aaron Donald. He's routinely in double-digit in sacks. I'm not talking about 11 to 12. I'm talking about 15, 17. He tied Michael Strahan's record of 22.5 sacks in a season if anybody can break that record I think it's going to be him he's extremely he's 6 foot tall

he's great he's tremendous with his hands he's great with the lockout the press oh man he has no weakness when it comes to rushing the passer and he's stout against the run he can set the edge which means he keeps his outside shoulder free you're not getting the edge on him yeah you're not getting the edge on him so don't even run over there you better run up inside because he's a hell

of a he's a hell of a guy setting the edge and when you play that when you play that defense and most of the time Ochoa in a 3-4 defense you want big strong physical linebackers because most of the time they're matched up against tackles that's when they're matched up again so when you go back and look at it you look at that defense Bill Belichick he had LT he had Carl Banks

you look at him he had William McGinnis he had Brable he had Van Ooy he had Ninkovich that's what you have to have guys 6'4 245 He had Brable. He had Van Ooy. He had Ninkovich. That's what you have to have. Guys 6'4", 245, 250, 260 that set the edge and could anchor down because you can't let them run the football. Bill Belichick said it.

We start the run, we make you one-dimensional. Same thing with the Steelers. One-dimensional. You look at Porter. You look at all those Jason Gilders all those guys that they've had set the edge extremely well Giants rookie

Tracy's a rookie ain't he I think so yeah Giants rookie had some had a good day on the ground running the ball oh he ran he ran extremely well yeah he ran the ball really well but that goddamn TJ Watt. Watt, man, every game he plays,

every game he's played, you just ran off some of his accolades and he's going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah. But as a defensive end, he has a multitude of moves that he has. He can bull rush you. He can spin move.

He can attack you on the upfield shoulder. He can attack you on the inside. Oh, dog. He just can do everything. So I'm watching the game. Normally, I watch the wide receivers. I'm watching the wide receivers and the DBs go at it. But just watching TJ Watt play, they don't have to play where he got the

strip sack, right? He got the strip sack and recovered the fumble. And my first thought is, I know the back has to go out but even, so he couldn't chip. He couldn't chip and he left the right tackle out there on his own. No. Why would you do that?

Yeah, you're asking for trouble. Especially in that scenario. You're asking for trouble. He's not a guy that... You better have a... What's the guy? T-Dub. You better have a Trent Williams.

Or you better have the right tackle it at philly yeah it's the right tackle name in philly from oklahoma uh leon wait not leon um uh what's his name damn why is it slipping my mind i know he's really he's really good yeah lane johnson lane johnson you better have a Lane Johnson. He's really good. Some arbitrary tackle. I mean, the guy, okay, he's a starting right tackle. Nah, don't play around with him. Don't mean that. He ain't to be messed with. He demands more of your respect than that.

And he's the guy, offensively, when we go in on Wednesday, he's circled. Yes. He's the guy we've got to account for because if we don't account for him, he's going to wreck our offense. Those guys, you circle them. The Reggie Weiss, the Lawrence Taylors, the Derek Thomases, those were the guys, the Bruce Smiths, those were the guys that we had circled.

That if you didn't block them, you couldn't win. The Ray Lewis is at the middle linebacker. Oh, Deion, don't worry about him. Hey, guys, you're going to get some great cardio today. We ain't effing with him. Hey, hey, you're getting cardio in. You won't have to run on Monday because you're going to get a lot of running today, but we

ain't throwing you the ball. Yeah. But that's how good TJ Watt is. His brother was the same way. JJ had a motor. They got motors. They're Midwestern kids. Hard working. They grew up, I mean, to have two brothers that dominate like they can.

That's crazy. Listen, you know how hard it is to have siblings that are both good at a sport? Yeah. You know how hard it is? Normally, it's a drop off in talent and skill. Yes. The fact that there's not very

many. Tiki Barber, Santana, Sonoris Moss, TJ Watt, Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa. I mean, how many of them? Eli, you got Rondan Tiki, me and my brother, Clay and Bruce Matthews. They've been some

brothers. But boy, these jokers here. I mean, you have Walter and Eddie Payton. You know, they've been some brothers but boy these jokers here I mean you have Walter and Eddie Payton you know they've been some brothers man but hey these two hell raisers here man Justin James JJ I don't know what TJ first

day maybe he James too but hey corn fan wheat harvested white boys from, what is it, from Wisconsin? They from Wisconsin, right? Wisconsin? Yeah.

Okay, Trent Jordan Watt and Justin James Watt. Woo! Boy, them Watt parents, I think they got another brother too that was a fullback at the Chargers for real? yeah, wait is three of them?

is three of them, I don't know if he's still in the league Ocho, but if I'm not mistaken yeah yeah, is that him? he was drafted by the Chargers, yeah but them two older ones yeah because i think it i think it's a jj and tj and then there's the younger right because i think there was a picture one time where all of us on the field together uh one time but boy crazy can you can you imagine i think

it'll be very interesting to see how good J.J. could have been had those injuries not crept up on him. Right. Because he had a stretch that was as good of any stretch. He had like a five-year stretch, Ocho, that was good as any defensive player in the history of the game. Now, the only player that I can think that had a stretch that was top that was LT.

Yeah. LT won Super Bowls in that stretch. LT was a player of the year, a defensive player of the year. If I'm not mistaken, LT was like a nine-time or ten-time first-team All-Pro. But JJ, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, LT was that. LT was defensive rookie of the year and defensive player of the year in the same year. And at that time, they didn't count sacks as an official stat.

Right. The sack didn't become an official stat until 1982. Okay. It was Deacon that coined the phrase sack of the quarterback, Deacon Jones. And I used to see Deacon all the time at the Super Bowl. And I was like, his name is David Jones. I said,

Deke, what's your real name? He said, David. I said, well, why you change your name? He said, David don't sell no damn tickets. Deke can sell tickets. That's a good one. But, Deke, man, it was great to be around those old guys, but

T.J. Watt, he's been phenomenal. I'm not just going to say he was phenomenal tonight. He's been phenomenal day one. So I'm glad I get an opportunity to witness. Saw his brother play. I thought his brother was going to be a hell. I talked to Wade Phillips, and everybody was surprised that they took him that high. And they talked about he's going to be a bust. And Wade to Wade Phillips and everybody was surprised that they took him that high. And they're talking about he's going to be a bust.

And Wade said, yeah, you're right. He's going to be a bust. He's going to have it in Canton though. That's the bust he's going to have. And I think he retired last year, so this year, last year. So he got, he on the clock. Four years, he on the

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He is. Yes, but would not say if that would be the case moving forward. We'll evaluating everything, not just the quarterback, everything. We all got to be better. There's a whole bunch of areas that we can improve on.

I'm not just talking about the quarterback. I'm talking about everything. We've got to be better moving forward. Oh, Joe, like shit like that, i hate i hate stuff like that especially you know in in the middle of the season you know be direct with your comments i know you're the head coach i know you don't want to let things out you know to the reporters

you know whether you're gonna start them or not you know whether you're gonna start them or not why even play that game why even play that game? Why even play that game? Now, you bench your quarterback because he's maybe struggling a little bit. If you watch the game, I'm not sure. Obviously, the people at home only get to see the TV copies.

But for you, seeing the 22 film, it's different. He needs to work. There you know he he needs to work there's some stuff he needs to work on yes there's some stuff

he needs to work on he's not playing well for that team to be as good as they should be with what he has around him he's not yeah I'm I'm just gonna be

I'm just gonna be honest so he's not Ocho yeah a change a change might come when they go to Flacco but I'm not sure how that helps him.

Because the only way for Anthony Richardson to get better is to be at the helm in making those mistakes and growing from them and learning from them. But see, if I'm Shane Steichenholdt, putting Flacco in does what exactly? Keep my job. That's what it does. You just said quarterback, get head coach, it's fine. Well, they do. Listen, there's another one on the hot seat down there in Jacksonville now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Doug Peterson is absolutely on the hot seat with Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. Absolutely. But the part that scares me, though, Unc, when you do something like this for a quarterback

that's that young and you bench him, I don't want him to start doubting himself. I don't want him to start doubting himself. And then what happens, he also becomes gun-shy. And the things that make him special, the things that make Anthony Richardson special, then he'll stop doing it because he doesn't want it to happen again.

He becomes hesitant. He starts to become indecisive. And it also messes with your psyche and your confidence. But damn, I got Vince. Oh, shit. Now I got to come back. When I do come back, I got to do everything perfect. I can't make no mistakes. And when you can't

play freely, that's not good. I think the thing is, Ocho, he does a great job of throwing the deep ball. It's the touch. It's the timing throws that he struggles with. Yeah. He doesn't have the touch currently.

I'm not saying that he can't get it. Everything don't have to be this. Everything he's throwing it through the eye of a hurricane. I'm like, damn, bro. Hold on. Hold on. I'm trying to talk about he's throwing through a what? He's trying to throw everything through the eye of a hurricane. I'm like, bro. That's a good one.

I ain't heard that. Bro, he right there. Right, right, right. Ojo, you know you can't throw a shallow cross like you throw the end cut. Yeah. I have to do 46 yards from you. Yeah, that's why they have the saying, you know, they have to do four to six yards from you. Yeah, that's why they have the saying, you know,

they love quarterbacks that have a catchable ball. Yes. Yes. Catchable ball. Everything doesn't have to be thrown with the same velocity. You know, there are times if you look at Mahomes

when he threw that one to Kelsey, he knows the guy's coming down to rob him. I got to get it there in a hurry. By the way. But now I throw the shallow cross i know hey i gotta give i gotta give uh um well he it wasn't a shallow cross it's almost like a uh a q9 a spread option route to xavier worthy i gotta give him a catchable ball put it out in front of him so he can turn and get the ball into the end zone that's a part of it is the most

important thing is giving a guy to run with it after he catches it because a lot of times you throw me the ball and i got to go down to catch it what could have been yards after the catch now i got a seven yard game and it could have been a 15 yard game right but that's what the really great quarterbacks understand i just think you look he's extremely young i'm not so sure how many years. What did he start? Maybe one year in college? Yeah. If that. And so there's a lot of maturity that needs to take place in order for him to be the quarterback that they want him to be and the quarterback that he hopes to become.

Right. But. Oh, my bad. What happened yesterday, Ocho? Oh, yeah. That won't help his situation now. Not at all. Not at all.

And again, with that situation as well I wish he would have told the truth about what the real issue was and on why he went out I guarantee you I'm not sure at what point I probably the storyline is out already

and he said he was tired ain't no way in hell that was the reason why you asked him to come out I guarantee you I swear for God something was wrong with that left ankle

I'm telling you something was wrong with that left ankle well he better go with that one out of the way with that left ankle. I'm telling you, something was wrong with that left ankle. Well, he better go with that one. I don't want to go with that one. The way he got tackled, and dude pinned him just a little bit. Pinned him just a little bit. I'm sure he might have aggravated it.

He went out and wanted to say, oh, I was tired. Listen, you're not playing receiver. You're not playing running back. You're not doing enough running like that, even if you do have to scramble. You're not doing enough running like that, even if you do have to scramble. You're not doing enough running like that to be tired in that situation or in that moment for that matter.

Hey, Ocho. I didn't want to say nothing. I ain't going to disagree with you. I ain't going to say you. You're not wrong when you're right. But go with that. Because it's a bad look to say you were tired. Because do you know how, Ocho, does he understand how tied linemen are how tied the tight end is how tied the backs are

we're actually running the receivers about multiple times you scramble the receivers are scrambling 30 and 40 yards two three plays back to back to back right and a lot of times, we're not allowed to come out because we're afraid to come out, Ocho, because like, hell, if Rod come out, Rod tired. I'm tired. Ed tired. So now that we got our three

starters out, we got three backups in. Somebody got to stay. Two of the three starters got to stay on the field. Right. And plus, I want the ball. Hey, Ocho, I want the ball. Hey, Ocho, I see Ed and, I see Ed and Rod

tapping out. I might start, oh no, I go, go ahead. Come on, John, go throw it to me now

because I know we got two guys coming in. I know he ain't finna trust them guys coming in there. Let me go get this pass right quick.

Right, right, right. But I think that's the thing to Ocho. I think, um, you just have to be,

you know, it's just not a good look. Yeah. Yeah. Say you got tired of your life. Think about the line, Bonocho. Pass block after pass, especially in the two minute or, you know, you down. I think somebody already pulled him aside.

He has to be a little bit more media savvy. You got to be a little bit more media savvy and PC and understand how to manipulate the answers on the questions that are being asked. That's all. Again, that's a part of the growing, that's a part of the maturity and the growing pains as well in being in the NFL. He'll get it though. He'll get it though.

I just don't want to see Mr. Steichen. I don't want to see him bench him. I don't want to see him bench him because I think that could do more harm than good for him. The only way he's going to get better is being on the field, making those mistakes, realizing what those mistakes are when you watch film, and then

you go out the next time, you try to do your best to eliminate those mistakes until you get them perfect. You'll never get it perfect, but you strive for it and the better you are as a player, the better your team is going to be. Shane Stackett is worried about losing the team also. Ocho,

remember when we was playing? Son, you're too young to be tired. You know how you say you was tired, Ocho? You were in your early 20s? What did the coach tell you? Son, you're too young to be tired. They bring up your age. Yeah. Ocho, before we go into our next segment,

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Hey, the more, the more I can do. Just help your boy out now. Mike McCarthy cited Trayvon Diggs confronting a television reporter after last night lost an example of the team frustration with his three and four record. We have to be better in those moments. I always talk about staying on the high road. That's a part of our responsibility in this business. But I'm not ignorant or naive to the fact this generation, that's part of the world they live in, the social media world. You have to manage that.

That's part of being a professional athlete, and that's part of the world they live in, the social media world. You have to manage that. That's part of being a professional athlete, and that's part of representing this organization properly. Diggs addressed the situation with teammate Michael Parsons on Parsons' podcast today. I just felt like it was unnecessary. I just felt like he was trying to use my name for clicks, and after the game, I just happened to see it. Oh!

I ain't gonna lie. Let me finish what he said. I just happened to see it. I clicked I ain't gonna lie. Let me finish what he said. I just happened to see it. I clicked on it. Then I seen who it was. I was like, oh, he's right here. I just saw you. I went up to him and just spoke how I felt. Me, if I was playing now with you, I ain't gonna

even look at social media until I get on the bus. Or damn near to the plane. Because I don't want to have the chance. Because look get on the bus. Right. Or damn near to the plane. Because I don't want to have the check. Because look, I get it. When you lose, it's tough. When you win. But if the guy praised him when he confronted the guy and said,

hey, man, I appreciate the words of encouragement, man. That's great. No, not at all. But you know what I don't like from the media side, especially from the report? Everything is magnified. Everything is magnified when you're losing so to me and no disrespect oh you know because i know how you feel about it and i did

say he was loafing on a play yeah but a defender when you have two defenders that are in a better position to make the play than you sometimes you slow down because you expect them to make that play you can't assume that yeah you're right you can't assume't assume that. You got to be running all the way through. But what I don't like is the fact that when you are losing some of the smaller stuff, I call it nitpicking. I call it nitpicking. When you're losing as a team,

there's certain things you can get away with and there's certain things you can't when you're losing. And that's one of them. So now they're going to find anything they can to say, but see, this is one of the reasons why we're losing right there. Trayvon D is not running. But he's not lying. Think about how bad your defense, your defense is dead lagging,

stopping to run. So what does that mean? Running is what? Effort. Right. That's effort. All we ask is effort. I can't look here.

I can put you in a great situation, but if you don't give me the effort, it's all for not. So let's just say for the sake of argument, on that play, he was loafing. The next play, somebody else was loafing. The next play, somebody else was loafing. Now you get how you're dead last at stopping the run. Now you see why you're dead last. Now you see why you're not attacking the quarterback because everybody picked.

All it takes is one. So you know what? That's okay, Trayvon. Next time it's somebody else. Okay, bro, that's okay. So now we get 65 plays with somebody low zone one. Then what happens, Ocho? You got 65.

You three and four. You give up 200 yards. You're giving up 200 plus yards a game. Rush deep. That's what people don't understand. See,'s just it's just a one-off right right but what if what if one player did that on every play regardless offense or defense just one play just one player out of 11 that's why i say it's a team that's why it takes every man I'm counting on every man not just the man right next to me but the man on the other side

that he's doing what he was supposed to so let me ask you a question when his teammates cut that film on and they see that what you think they thinking on you yeah yeah hey listen can you imagine being on the Cowboys defense

and they turn on the film and have to watch film? I don't know if they walk collectively as a group or they watch it by position. But boy, listen, the way people running down your throat. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, boy, I hated to lose a game. And I know you're going to watch that film. We're going to watch that film on Monday.

I mean, on Wednesday. Hey, they said, hey, we're going to watch the tape. God almighty. Oh, wait, as a team? Everybody in there? The entire offense. Wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, tight ends. We all.

I know I look – oh, Lord. Hey, boy, you mess up and everybody gets to see it. Ocho, you see I'm flying down the chair? Oh. I can't even get up, man. It's a – hey, there's a – Yeah. Are you getting old, man?

No, Ocho. Hey. Is that – that's why you make sure you put out great film yeah because not only is your team watching it that goes to other 31 teams too yeah yeah yeah listen there's a certain level of uncomfortability even though it's a sport that you play to go out there sund and lose and have bad plays. Let's say you run 65 plays out of those 65. You got, you might have four. That's embarrassing.

Yes. We embarrassing. And if you have to watch it as a collectively as an offense and you know, people are going to see that and you know, they're going to point it out. They go, they go, they're going to point it out.

Now, when we did it in position, position meetings and we watched film okay there was a certain level of comfort oh yeah yeah yeah it's just us you know I'm good but boy that full team oh man what

and you know man look here man I one time we were playing a preseason game and I held a guy it was a play it was a toss away and I'm full to cut off it was play. It was a toss away. And I'm full of the cutoff. It was like the safety had dropped down in the box and I grabbed it. I grabbed it from behind.

Mike said, you know what? You couldn't cut him off because he came shot down too fast. He came down and cut across. I knew it. I knew it. Yeah. Mike said, don't hold it. He said, if he catch TD from the backside, I need to get a new back. Okay. But if you get a penalty, now you you're gonna take away a big run okay but that was a hey look here man

the meetings people y'all don't understand you we already knew there are some times you had to have armadillo skin oh yeah you had to have a shellillo skin. Oh, yeah. You had to have a shell to go up in that thing. Because, hey, Mike, Alex Gill. Now, sometimes Kool was a little bit more subtle about it. He's like, 84, you're better than that. I know we expect you to make that play. Alex Gill didn't give a damn.

The offensive line coach, all the muscles, 84. What the hell you lift the weight for mike hey yeah that ain't good yeah my my good yeah my favorite my favorite as far as chastising by a coach where everybody even nobody special when i went to New England, when I went to New England, Bill Belichick chewed Brady ass out in front of the entirety of the offense,

the entirety of the team on why they lost to the Jets in whatever playoffs that was. The divisional round the year before. And he came back and purposely had tape and film on the reason on why they lost and he pointed out all the Brady's bad plays I was like you got to be kidding me I gotta be getting punked I gotta be getting punked Bill what the fuck is this shit how do we

expect to compete if you're playing, you're making mistakes like, what the, huh? Oh, he talking to 12 like that? I looked over at Vince Wilfork, I'll never forget, and my eyes and I'm like, is he serious?

Just like this, nod his head. Boys, it's a different ball ball game so I got a better understanding okay this is why these motherfuckers win absolutely year in and year out 20 years worth of success hey that's

Mike wouldn't do John like that they would have a meeting John would go to his office John was like okay he jumped in my ass I'm gonna jump in I cover for you I'm about to jump in your ass. I cover for you. I'm about to jump in your ass. That's how it was. We were accountable.

Hey, be it 80, 87, because obviously, you know, and people ask, that's how we refer to guys. We refer to guys as the numbers. 80, 87, 30, even though we call TD, we call TD Jew. Most of us went by number seven. We held everybody

accountable. It doesn't matter what your resume says. That ain't what it said on that play. We can't take the Pro Bowls and the All Pros and all that other stuff you got. We couldn't take that away. But on that play, that was some bull jive. And that'll get us beat.

Diggs also made an interesting comment when talking about the reason for the loss against the 49ers. I feel like it was their coach. They had great coaching. They adjusted to the things we were running. I feel like every time they called, it was just a counter to what we were in. It was just like, S-O-L. It was just like S.O.L. They got good players. They got the right pieces. So they

were executed. Wow. Yeah. At some point in time now I remember Chris Richard. He wasn't no good. What's the guy named from tampa uh what was the guy named he was the head coach of the detroit lions rod rod marinelli he didn't get it done mike nolan he didn't get it done at what point in time and that was the problem that i had

right at what point in time do players accept responsibility? So let me guess. That's what, that's what, Zim, he coached you to do that on that play. Right. He said, hey, the guy breaks down the sideline, I want you to hit the jog. Because maybe somebody else will make the play.

That's what he could, that's what he coached you? Mm-mm. Fit responsibility. What's your gap integrity? You supposed to be in the a gap have your ass in the a gap right the guy goes in the b that ain't got nothing to do with me i'm a b or c ain't got ish to do with shane i don't man why won't people why won't people accept responsibility right is it really that hard to be accountable?

I'm wrong. You know what? I was wrong, man. I got to play better. It's okay. What Trayvon needs to understand is that, Trayvon, you're one of the better corners

in the league. You should demand more of yourself. Damn what they expect of you. You should demand that. You should say, you know what? I want to be an all-pro. I'm trying to make an all-pro team every year. Man, I'm trying to go to camp.

Right. I don't know. What are you guys playing for? Y'all want to have the biggest chain? Y'all want to have the most cars? Y'all want to have the most garden? I don't know what you're looking for. But what you want? You're making a boat on a money.

Don't you want to be like, when it's all said and done, when you go back, like when you go back, how revered you are in sense. When I go back to Denver, how they applaud. I don't get it. Yeah.

I just don't, I just don't get it man I just don't get it man and listen you think the reporter you know pointed that out wait till they play this weekend wait till they play the weekend after that cause everybody gonna be watching everybody tune in because now remember you got the star on your helmet

everybody's watching the team with the star on their helmet. LeBron James only has seven points. He's had over, he's gone almost, he's gone 1,200 plus games. Right. Scoring at least double figures. He's three and a half, he's three minutes and 49 seconds. He needs three points.

Could this be the time? I don't know if somebody will ever break that record. He's two of 13, one of four. He has seven points, eight assists, and five rebounds. So we're on alert. Record-breaking alert. Not in a good way. Sean Payton on the Panthers saying he tried to run the score.

It's in the NFL. Play back. Did he hear what I said? I could have swore I told you that yesterday, Ocho. You know, them coaches hit. Oh, man. Everybody listen, man. They might not watch it live like this, but I guarantee

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because the NFL played better. With the Broncos ahead by 21 points in the fourth quarter against the Panthers, Payton called a fake field goal and had the wide receiver, Corton Sutley, throw a pass to the fullback, Michael Burton, to convert a fourth down. Those play calls upset members of the Panthers, and J.C. Horn was caught on camera saying the Broncos

were trying to run the score. Yep, that's what we do. That's what offense is supposed to do. Peyton said he looked at it as trying to win a football game and trying to learn to close out a game and suggested the Panthers play better if they'd like to stop the Broncos from doing such. Oh, we're trying to finish the game the right way. We're not trying to run the score up on anyone.

It's the National Football League. I've been in games with a 28-point lead in the fourth quarter and lost. So we're trying to finish. You got to be alert for everything. You got to play football. It's a football game. You don't stop playing and don't stop being alert for any and everything until the goddamn clock

hits zero in the fourth quarter. I'm coaching a game, not the scoreboard. And I think I brought it up to you before about coaches having a pact. There's a certain pack that I thought they had, but there's a certain amount of respect where you don't run the score up. And, and I mentioned that you was like,

hell no. But I remember sometimes where a coach ran the score up or threw a pass or scored a touchdown when they shouldn't have, when they should have took a knee and instead of shaking hands, they got to arguing at midfield after the game. Yes. I said, yeah.

Okay. Well, well maybe there is a certain tag that coaches live by and it's a sign of respect not to run the score. That ain't it. We running it up. Look, I'm running my offense.

Right. I'm not just spending with 10 minutes to go in the game and we're up 21. We're up 28 points. I'm not just going to run the ball into the line of sc're up 21 we're up 28 points i'm not just finna run the ball into the line of scrimmage great three straight downs i'm gonna call my offense right you call your defense i want to know this how did we get this 21 point lead were we running the score up then because we started at zero zero what's what's your responsibility and to keep me from running up the team right hey JC

were you on that defense that helped them get that let them get that 21 point lead a young bull nice with it too I hate the fact no disrespect I hate the fact that he's on the Panthers because if he was on any other team, I think

you would be able to see how good J.C. Horn really is. I don't like the fact that he's over there. Everybody can't be on great teams? Damn! I know what you mean, dawg. He's so, in man to man, he's so technically sound, dawg. So fucking smooth

and transition and transitioning. But that's beside the point. But, hey, Panthers is just right now just bad all around. All around. And I know Dave Teppel. I know he got a short. He got a short leash with everybody, boy. He got a short leash with everybody.

Hey, that's not my job to keep the score down. That's your coach's job to keep the score down. Right. My job is to run it up. Your job is to keep it down. Mm-hmm. So you want me to coach

your team and mine? Hell, I need double pay to get it. That's a good one. Hassan Reddick wasn't a fan of Bill Belichick's criticism after the Jets lost to the Patriots on Sunday. Belichick called out the Jets and Reddick specifically on the Pat McAfee show. Just a lot of mistakes by the Jets in that game.

Hassan Reddick came in the game and just ran by the quarterback multiple times. Belichick comments prompted Reddick to respond on social media. Uh-oh. Hey, someone call Bill Belichick and give him a job. Seems like he's home bored and can't keep me out of his mouth. Come up for air. Why don't you? No diddy.

Crying emoji. Well, you did say the players these days are a little bit emotional. Yes. They don't take criticism very well. You know, he has missed a lot of playing time. Yes. A lot of practice, training camps, mini camps, OTAs.

You know, I think he is going to be effective and make a difference on that defense. It's going to take a while, Ocho. We halfway through the damn season. Yeah, it's going to take a minute. You know, once he gets in that rhythm, get a feel for the game, his body and mind catches up to the speed of the game, he's going to be

alright. But it's going to take a few games to get there. Ocho, what did Coach Belichick say was so bad? He just ran up the field and ran by the quarterback. Now, you might say Coach Belichick ain't a great defensive. It might not be a great GM. Look at the people.

Look at as Tom needed more, they gave him less and expected him to do what he had been doing the previous years. But to argue his defensive Aukman, his defensive brilliance. I don't think he would challenge that you can't challenge that you won't win that the man has a defensive game plan

that's in the Hall of Fame his game plan against the Buffalo Bills is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame they beat the greatest show on turf Bills is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They beat the greatest show on turf. One of the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. Very good game at that. You can say a lot of things about

Coach Belichick. His defense and mine should be unquestioned. Einstein. Einstein after an overwhelming social media reaction to Sunday's unveiling of the statue of D. Wade's outside what is it, Kasaya? Kasaya Center, the artists behind the statue are standing behind their work

I couldn't do better than that I don't think anybody else can do better than that I could I could. I could with a 10-gallon bucket of water and some mud. Hey, I have a question. People in the chat, Uncle, I know

you've seen it. People in the chat, have you seen Ed Reed's Hall of Fame bus? Yeah. Do you see how identical your bus looks to you see how identical your bus looks to you yeah identical ed reese bus looks to him i'm not sure who does the bus for the for ken in the hall of fame they have two guys but i think a guy named blair uh buzzwell yeah look it up blair buzzwell he's out of uh i think he's out of august utah maybe he lived uh but he did mine i think he did i think he's out of Ogden, Utah. Maybe he lived... He did mine. I think he did

Ed Reed's also. Listen, I don't know. That is who... I'm not sure who's in charge of getting D-Wade's bust done. And then for the guy who did D-Wade's bust to come out and say what he said, that a better job couldn't have been done what he did, when the entirety

of the world is telling you it looks nothing like the individual. you you know it doesn't let's say they say that they say d-waves that you look like garrett moore's hey you know another you know another thing this is also this is also on d-way too because on twitter today i saw pictures of him looking at the process of it being made so that means he not only saw it wasn't being done right, he approved it. But you know what, Ocho, but you know that moment, you don't want to make

the guy feel bad. And plus, you're not paying for it. Right, but come on. Let's just say for the sake of argument, someone is doing a portrait of you and Rail. You paying for it out of your pocket. You're like,

how are you going to get me a goatee? I ain't got no goatee. Right. Why you got rail with a Halle Berry cut? You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's like, I'm looking at the picture.

Now I'm looking at it and I saw what you saw, because the same thing happened. Right. When they come, like, when we get measured for the Hall of, when you get the Hall of Fame, okay, Ocho, we go in. That Monday, they have the artists there. Right. They're taking measurements.

They got the space, and they're seeing the distance between your eyes. They're seeing if there's any distinguishable characteristics. They give you a boatload of pictures that you can choose from because a lot of times, okay, okay. Do you like this? Do you like this photo of yourself?

Do you like this photo of yourself? You like this one? You like this one. And so that starts the process because now he's got to bring this clay to life. Right. Okay. So that was in, um So that was in February.

May, they call you up. We like to come out. They're going to spend about three or four hours. They got the clay. They kind of got the rough draft of kind of what it's supposed to look like. Now, he's going to do it again. He take the measurement. They got that thing.

The width of your mouth. Top of your head. Everything. Now, he's doing that with the clay because he's doing this. He's doing this. He's doing this. What do you think? What can you do? I'm like, what about my scar? I think it's on this side. I got a scar

up under my eye. I was like, the scar. Okay. I'm glad you brought that up. I got a scar up under my eye. I was like, the scar, okay, okay, I'm glad you brought that up. Put a little scar there. I said, what about the part? Oh, got that. So, I'm telling him, as I'm looking at the photos that I selected, that I want it to be

because a lot of the photos, they try to get the photo, Ocho, in the way that most of your photos are. You got one photo, you got a pose that you the way that most of your photos are. Cause you got, you got one photo, you got a pose that you have more than any of your other photos. So that's the one they try to go with. But at the end of the day, you can select whatever you like.

Clearly, or air with, with the Frederick Douglass look. Yes. So it is spot on. It is spot on. It is spot on. Dead on. Yes.

But yeah, man. I just... The fact that the person that did D-Wade's bust came out and said what he said and didn't issue an apology. I understand D-Wade didn't want to be rude. He didn't want to be yeah he's

yeah he didn't want to be rude but come on come on bro come on come on come on now you know at some point you have to tell people you know what this isn't right because if it's not right and the rest of the world is saying it's not right even though you're trying to be nice then yes he will continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over instead of improving on his craft and what he does. I don't know if he's going to get any more work. Yep. If you, oh,

Joe, the shade tree mechanic don't get no work. If he messed up somebody's car, that's the whole why, even, even though he cheat, if your car still won't crank after you take it to him, what the hell am I,

why am I going to refer you to somebody else? Right. So if I'm D Wade, I'll pay somebody to steal it. I can't let y'all see this. And I have somebody else to redo it. He came out better. Oh,

Joe do it. Like, you know how you go to the basketball game. They have the body. And then they go, they let the little kids stick their head up in there yeah yeah yeah

better do it then like I said I mean D Wade I think everybody we are in agreement that D Wade is very deserving that doesn't look like him man listen not only is he very deserving if you're going to give someone a statue represent them in front of anywhere, it has to be on point.

It has to be right. If you take the jersey off, if you take the jersey off the statue, nobody would be able to tell you what he play that was. No. Nobody. I don't know. The way they got his face was a little like Antoine Walker a little bit. I didn't know who the hell it was they gotta fix it

they got to they really do I think because of the public I wouldn't call it backlash but because of the public disapproval of it not looking like D. Wade a change is gonna have to be made yeah if not so be it

he might be a shade tree sculptor uh i'm our ronnie and his artistic partner oscar leone are proud of their work and encourage people to come see it for themselves now i'm good what do you mean see it for ourselves we saw it it's everywhere it's on instagram it's on tiktok it's on yeah i ourselves? I saw it. It's everywhere. It's on Instagram. It's on TikTok. It's on Twitter. Yeah, I'm good. I saw it. I'm going to take your word for it. It's on Bookface. It's on everything. Ah, yeah.

Hey, with a three, with two minutes left, LeBron James extends his all-time double-digit scoring streak to 1,226 games. In honor of LBJ. Go James, this historic streak. I'm going to sign.

I'm going to do something. Somebody going to win this. Hold on. Did they win though? Damn, you're asking too many questions. I know. You just talked about the historic streak, but did the Lakers win? Isn't that what's more important? We're down by two. We got the ball.

LeBron makes one or two free throws. Isn't that what's more important? We're down by two. We got the ball. Oh. LeBron makes one or two free throws. He got 11 points. So they got the foul. Don't foul, KD. Yeah, KD and Book went off Book got 33 KD got 30 AD's been phenomenal all year

uh 29 points 14 rebounds, Rui got 20 and 10 uh Austin Reed Kobe of the Ozarks has 23 and 8 D-Lo was 14 LeBron, 3 of 14 from the floor that's alright, go James LeBron's back so what we gonna do

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enter drawing to win this hat. Personally signed by me dodgers win they take a dominant 3-0 lead again 42 walker bueller pitch five scoreless inning bueller has three world series starts with five plus inning and five fewer base one of the loud each time a record unmatching the world series freddy freddy freddy freeman freddy freeman building a two-run home and five fewer base runners allowed, each time a record unmatch in the World Series. Freddie Freeman. Freddie Freeman built a two-run homer. He now has three home runs in as many games.

Everybody will remember that iconic one, the bottom of the 10th. Two out, bases loaded. Fastball by Cortez. He caught it. He was sitting on it, and he took it over the fence. The Dodgers beat the Yankees 4-2. Take a commanding 3-0 lead. Now

the Yankees have their backs against the wall. Can they do what's only been done one time? The Boston Red Sox came from behind in the American League Championships to win four straight games to win a best of seven series. Can it be done? I think they're going to send Garrett Cole to the mound tomorrow games to win a best-of-seven series. Can it be done?

I think they're going to send Garrett Cole to the mound tomorrow. He's their best pitcher. Right. What's the percentage? What's the chances? What's the chances they come back and win this series? What's the chances they even make this series competitive? I don't watch much baseball.

They put man on the moon, so anything is possible. Okay. But I wouldn't bet a dime. I wouldn't watch much baseball. They put man on the moon, so anything is possible. Okay. But I wouldn't bet a dime. I wouldn't bet your money that they'd come back and win, let alone my own. Right. Damn. So, what's wrong with the Dodgers?

The Dodgers got looked. I mean, oh, the Yankees. Look, the Dodgers. Shohei Ohtani is about to win his third MVP. Freddie Freeman is an MVP. Mookie Betts is an MVP. They got three MVPs in their first four batters. Wait a minute.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on now. The Yankees have Giancarlo Stanton. They have Aaron. Never won an MVP. They have Juan Soto. Never won an MVP. They have brother Jazz Chisholm. Never won an MVP. They have brother Jazz Chisholm. Never won an MVP.

Do you understand how good Mookie Betts is? Mookie Betts can be a gold glover at right field, center field, left field, shortstop, second base, third base, and first base. Nobody has the versatility. There's not been a baseball player

that has that kind of versatility. And be exquisite at it. Yeah, they have utility infielders that can play second place, play shortstop, but not at the level of Mookie Betts. He's won an MVP. He can steal your base. He has great defensive prowess. Can hit for power.

Can hit for average. No, no, no, no, no. Shohei, do you understand what Shohei Ohtani is doing? He's a real deal, boy. Freddie Freeman is an MVP. And he's already a World Series champ.

I'm not saying the Yankees aren't good, but when they, the Yankees get runners in scoring position they're not doing anything Dodgers are putting the ball over the fence you look at what's his name Escobar

home run Edmund what is it the second baseman the second baseman of the shortstop he's building home runs we know Freddie Freeman can hit it over the porch Mookie can hit it over the porch. We know Shohei. Hey, sometimes you just run up into this team that's just better.

Right. Just better. It's okay. I mean, the Yankees had a phenomenal, phenomenal regular season. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But if you look at Judge.

Right. How's their postseason been? or they just started to play bad because they're facing the Dodgers now I mean look they they beat the they beat the Guardians what 4-2 who did they play the first they play who did they play first

the Orioles the Royals they beat the Royals what 4-1 3-1 3-1 3-1 Judge is struggling

he's not seeing the ball well they're they're throwing the fastball by Judge and he normally drives at 450 feet every time from what I see.

I don't watch him. He's every time. He in the goddamn home run. And they started out the same level and then swing through it. But I mean, look, it happens. We saw A-Rod do the same thing. A-Rod win MVP after MVP. 40 homers, 130 ribbies.

And they get the World Series and they move him up and down. They start him off at second. He's batting second. He's batting third. He's batting fourth. They bat him at eight. Everybody can't beat Reggie Jackson and Mr. October. Right.

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