Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Suns get swept, Brunson goes off, Tank Dell's mistake

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Phoenix Suns getting swept by Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves, Jalen Brunson setting a playoff franchise record of 47 points as the New York Knicks went up 3-1 on the Philadelphia 76ers, Houston Texans wideout Tank Dell walking away with minor wounds after getting shot at a Florida event, and more. 0:00 Introduction3:20 Timberwolves sweep Suns15:54 Clippers beat Mavs24:30 Knicks beat Sixers34:35 Jerry Jones compared his 2024 Draft strategy43:05 Tank Dell released from Hospital51:00 Viral Track Video54:05 Baby Daddy Video #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0-4 in the playoff so the Suns beat them all three times they faced in the regular season but came playoffs when it absolutely mattered and you had to have it they were 0-4. Kevin Durant has been swept twice in his past three playoffs appearance, and both in

the first round. Bills that promised that they weren't going to get swept because he had never been swept before in his life. He had four buckets, six turnovers, and six fouls. You look at the scoring chart, Jaden McDaniels had 18. Carl Anthony Towles had 28.

Mike Conley had 10. And Ant-Man was sensational when he absolutely had to be in the second half. 40 points on 13 of 23, 7 of 13 from the three, 7 of 10 from the free throw line. And they move on 122, 116.

But it wasn't easy. Kevin Durant, a very, very efficient night, 12-17 from the floor, 2-3 from the three-point line, 7-9 for the free-throw line. He had 33 points. Devin Booker was outstanding, playing 45 minutes. He was 13-21

from the field, 3-5 from the three-point line, 20-21 from the foul line for blockbuster. 49 points. And you see, Ocho, those two guys shot 25 of 38 from the floor. They shot 7 of 8 from the, no, 7, yes, 5, excuse me, 5 of 8 from the three-point line. And they shot 27 of 30 from the free-throw line. They score

82 points. Between the two. Between the two of them. You have to understand. Obviously, it's supposed to be a three-headed muscle over there with the Suns now. You know, Bradley Beal, this is a night where Bradley Beal needed to step up, where Bradley Beal needed to shoot efficient from the field.

Obviously, you need to be better than 4 for 13 and one for five from the line. Two assists, six turnovers, and you fouled out on top of that, and you caused Ant-Man, you know, to twist his ankle stepping on your foot. Man, you can't play like that, especially with the money that you command that you're making the next three seasons. My question for you is, hell, with the way it ended, we talk about a sweep, you think Frank Vogel

will come back as a coach next year, or is it one and done for him? Or do you let him run it back one more time? With this roster, what do you do? How do you add? Bradley Bill's next year,

50 million. The year after that, 54 million. The year after that, 57 million. So the next three years, you're on the hook with Bradley Bill for next year, 50 million. The year after that, 54 million. The year after that, 57 million. So the next three years, you're on the hook with Bradley Bill for 161. And if I'm not mistaken, I think he has a no trade clause. Right.

Well, unless he agrees to it, right? Normally, unless he agrees to it, right. Okay. You got no first round picks until 2030. You got one second round pick this year, and then you have no second round picks from 25 to 30. How do you build? How do you add pieces to help Kevin Durant and Devin Booker

get over that? The only piece that you got is a Bradley Bill. That's if he weighs no trade clause. Now, another question, Ocho, I pose to you. Does Kevin Durant want to leave? Does Kevin Durant want to go back to OK? Because if you look at it, the only team that have draft capital and potential players that can satisfy the Phoenix Suns is the OKC Thunder.

I think they got like 8, 9, 10 first round picks. I think they got like 12, 13 second round picks. I mean, would he want to do that? Would he want to bounce again? Obviously, you know, with Warriors, OKC, Warriors, Warriors, Brooklyn. Now you go to the Suns and now you want to, you know, is it good for him? I'm not sure how basketball fans view or basketball players. He doesn't care when it comes to bouncing from team to team. I'm not sure how they're viewed. How about this? Once you get a divorce, it's easier to get another divorce. He's already left OKC to go to

Golden State. He's left Golden State to go to Brooklyn. He's left Brooklyn to go to Phoenix. If you've been divorced four times, what's number five, Ocho? Yeah, okay, I understand what you're saying, but what are the chances? You're leaving team to team, obviously, in search of a championship.

OKC being a much, much younger roster, obviously, what are the chances that they can get to the finals? What are the chances? If anything, you might as well stay. assets to give up unless somebody want to be a free agency and take a pay cut. Ain't nobody taking that kind of pay cut. Not with the money the way it is. Ochoa, the guys can get $63, $65, $68 million. I'm not going down to $20 million. I'm not giving. Now, if I'm later in my career, Ochoa, I'm in year 15. I've already made $400 million, $450, $500 million. Now, I might do a David West where he says, you know what? Yes, I'm going to give up some money. I might give up $20 million. An opportunity

to just play for 10, 2 years or 10 years, but I want the ring. That's what I want. Now, I've got enough money, but these guys in the beginning, to give up that kind of money, I don't see it happening. Right. I don't see it happening.

That's crazy. I don't, I don't think he leaves. I mean, if, if there's a team that has the opportunity to, to, to get there,

I mean, I would, I would assume it would be that three headed monster with him, but with Booker Booker and Bradley Beal. I mean, obviously playing with shy and, and Chet is nice. That that's, that's a nice look, but Jalen Williams. Yeah. I mean, obviously playing with Shai and Chet is nice. That's a nice look.

And Jalen Williams. Yeah, and Brother Williams. How far are you really going to get outside of just, you know, putting them numbers and stats? But then you might be home in the first round again. Yeah, looking at this roster, I don't see. But you look at you had wing defenders. You had Mikael Bridges. You had Cam Johnson was more of a shooter. Right. roster i don't see but you look at you had wing defenders you had mikhail bridges you had uh uh

well cam johnson was more of a shooter right i just don't know when you look at this roster i just don't know how you would you improve it enough in order for they can get to the championship because you're gonna have to go through the nuggets ant-man you see the problem what you've done with ant-man is that you let him taste victory in the playoffs. Now he's got to taste it. It's like, Peter, I know y'all are going to get upset, but it's kind of like you're on a farm and you have a dog to get a taste of blood in his mouth. You either get rid of the dog because he can't stay there anymore. Once he starts killing chickens, once he starts killing animals, he won't stop. He will not stop.

And I'm not telling you what somebody told me. I grew up on a farm. So you're telling me. I know what we did. I ain't gonna say what we did, but I know we rid of that problem. And that's what you have to do. You let Anthony Edwards taste it. You let him he he believed in his mind. Now he's like, this is my lead. Oh, yeah, this is my lead. He wants it. Yeah. And he can't he's You got hell on your hand for the next decade. Yeah, he's a real deal. He's a real deal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But go ahead.

No, I was coughing. You know, I was coughing. This is very disappointing for the Suns because when they put this team together, my concern was always injuries because, you know, Kevin Durant over the last couple of years, he's had some injuries where people roll into his knees. He doesn't have the sturdiest of foundations. Booker has been dealing with hamstring injuries.

We know Bradley Beal has had some injuries over the last couple of years. And so the question that I had even before they got Bradley Beal, OK, is everybody going to be healthy? And right on cue, Kevin Durant missed an extended period of time. The book missed some time. This year, Bradley Beal started out. He was out. Book missed a little time. I just don't see the way this roster is constructed right now. I don't know how you improve it to the point.

Because you got Max Dollar guys with Book. You got Max Dollar guys with Beal. And you got Max Dollar with Kevin Durant. Yeah. So when you do that, Ojo, you know when Dollar Guys with Bill, and you got Max Dollar with Kevin Durant. So when you do that, Ojo, you know when you buy, the question is, do I want to buy seven things at

a nice price, or do I just get three things at high value? Because you remember when you go to the bar, go to the store, hey, man, get them donuts that's two days old. They're $2. You get them fresh with them fresh donuts. Them fresh donuts, $2.

And you better get them two-day-old donuts for a little hard. Hey, put them in the oven, warm them up. Yeah, put them up a little bit. That's 75 cents. We saved a dollar and a quarter. Yeah, you right. So that's what the sons are going to have. The sons got three high-ticket items,

which leave now, they can only get, now they can only shop in the dollar aisle. Right. I mean, you might as well keep the band together. You might as well keep the band together and come back next year and try again. You have no choice.

I don't think Kevin Durant is willing to jump ship again because they got swept in the first round. I just don't think so. I think he's done it enough. He's at a point in his career where the point of continuing to bounce around, it just makes no sense at this point. This is a team I decided to go to.

I got Brad. We got to get it done. Oh, shit. Hold on, hold on. Ocho just had an accident I don't know he had something propped up his computer yeah it's gonna be tough it's gonna be tough when you don't have the assets

I think the two guys that are untouchable are Kevin Durant and Devin Booker unless they ask for a trade. But this was something that when it was broached and Kevin Durant, because Brooklyn did him a solid. Brooklyn did not have to send him to a team like this, but they did. They sent him to Phoenix that had Chris Paul, that they had Devin Booker, they had DeAndre Ayton.

They did him a real solid when they didn't have to. It goes to show you the level of respect that they have for it. But when I look at it, there are only three pieces that somebody would want. Obviously, they'd want Book. Obviously, they want Kevin Durant. Obviously, they want Bradley Beal. Everybody else are just auxiliary pieces. We could take them or leave them.

I don't think anybody is a missing ingredient to a championship caliber team. Somebody would, you know, but those three guys, obviously somebody would want. The question is, does Book want to leave?

Does he want to be in a situation where he goes to New York and play alongside Jalen Brunson? Kevin Durant. Does he want to go? Man, let me put that out there, man. I don't need to put that out there. I'm sorry.

Hey, now you're talking. I like Kevin Durant going to New York. No? Oh, I mean, everybody would like Kevin Durant anywhere. I'm sure Golden State would love to take him back, but they don't have pieces. Right. They don't have anything. Yeah.

Okay. Because if I made it by that, I'm going to want Kaminga. I'm going to want Moody. I'm going to want... I don't even know they got first-round picks. I don't know if Golden State currently have the pieces, have the assets to be able to pry him away from

Phoenix. If he wants to go back, he might say, Ben, they're done that. I'm good. And Golden State, not to say, because, Hannah, you said he might go back to OKC, but I think to me, personally, I think OKC

is more realistic than him going back to the bank. I mean, honestly, I'm just looking at it, obviously. What is KD? Probably about 35. 35? And, you know, continue to move at this point in your career.

I mean, you already got two chips as it is. You really have nothing else to prove at this point I mean you might as well just just stick it out and I don't see him going back him and Draymond I don't think look I understand that he did Draymond's podcast

but I don't think you know there are certain things that you know hey we gonna be cordial but it'll never be the same yeah that's unfortunate very going to be cordial, but it'll never be the same. We're actually playing together, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Very.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Timberwolves get it done. 122-116 over the Phoenix Suns as they sweep the Phoenix Suns and they move on to the second round.

The Clippers tie the series. 2-2 headed back to LA. The beard. I remember I told you, I said he got to be the beard. He got to be the beard. Hold on. And listen,

we talked about Paul George too. He had to be playoff P. Playoff P showed up tonight. James Harden. Hold on. James Harden today, 33 points, six rebounds, seven assists. An efficient, efficient, efficient. 12 of 17, four of five from three.

He had 15 points on six of 8 shooting in the fourth quarter. That boy was efficient. Look at playoff P. Cut nothing nice. Playoff P hit the shot and hurt around the world because they were down one. He almost lost it out of bounds. He gets the ball. Dribble, dribble.

Sidestep. Jumps back. Three. Puts them up two, and they never look back and we see paul george paul george played 43 minutes he was 11 of 19 7 of 10 from the three-point line he had 33 james harden had 33 zoo box had 13 terrence man had 11 norman powell came up the bench chipped in with 11 russ came in provided provided some energy. He gave them five. Mason Plumlee gave them six. They needed that to overcome Kyrie's 40 points on 14-25,

6-12 from the three, 6-6 from the free throw line. But it's Luka's inefficiency that's hurting them. 10-24, 1-9 from three, 8-10 from the free throw line. He had a triple-double, 29-10-10. But the Clippers really absolutely needed this game. They needed the beard. They needed Paul George to give them virtuosos. Now, we know, we've seen James Harden, the beard, play like this before.

But the question was, could he sum it up again? Could he get it together again? Paul George, we hadn't seen Paul George play like this in this series. Not yet. But tonight, tonight, he was sensational. Imagine if they had Kawhi. I'm not sure what's going on with Kawhi's knees. I'm not.

They've been in his knees a few times already. Yeah. The fact that we've gotten to this point in the season, in the playoffs, where he's needed most, you know, to pair him with the beard and play off P, and he can't go. So now the brunt of everything now is on the beard and play off P to be consistent and be efficient from the field. Because now Kawhi is out.

Now somebody has to make up for that lack of production in that area. So now you need Your supporting cast You need Zubox Did I say it right? I don't want to put your name Zubox Zubox Terrence Mann

And the rest of them Young fellas man To put it together And try to make up The production Or the lack of production That Kawhi would have had It has to come from somewhere

Because it puts too much pressure On damn James Harden and Paul George to have to be damn near almost perfect because you're missing an important piece. Hey, I'm curious. Why can't I'm

sure he didn't want to do that shot. His knees. Remember, he's had knee problems. He had a partial tear of the ACL. He's had some cleanup on that thing. And the thing is, it's probably,

if it's not, it's probably starting to head towards arthritic. I'm sure at some point in time, it's probably going to get to be where it's bone on bone. You know you can only go so many times in there. Hey, no matter what the car, my grandfather used to say, probably going to get to be where it's bone on bone. You know you can only go so many times in there. Right. Hey, no matter what the car, my grandfather used to say,

boy, there's only so many times you're going to be able to pop the hood before you're going to have to get rid of it. Okay, okay, I got you, I got you. The mechanic keep over to that hood. Right. Let me take a look at it. It's the voltage regulator. It's the spark plug. It's the timing chain. There's only so many times they're going to open their hood

up, Ocho, before you know, they're going to shut that thing down and say, Mr. Johnson, we've done all we can for this. Don't put that on me. When I think about it, as far as advanced as we are, when it comes to technology and

medicine and treatments and surgeries and all the things that we were able to do at this point in 2024, I would think things would have gotten better by now. Oh, they are getting better. The technology is unbelievable. You see Kevin Durant, the way he's playing? Exactly, but I mean, that's why I'm speaking on Kawhi. No, we can't grow

cartilage. You can't grow cartilage. Okay. Until they can grow that and put that in your knee and now you got new cartilage. Cartilage, a cadaver and we can get you an acl right we can get you to we can't we haven't figured out a way to do that yeah that car is a ball game yeah they give you those prd you know they give you all those treatments those stem cells and all that right but ain't nothing like the original god didn't give you no stem cells he ain that. Right. But ain't nothing like the original. Mm-hmm. God didn't give you no stem cells.

He ain't put none of that in there. He put the original parts. Right. And Kawhi, it's very unfortunate. It's very unfortunate because I would have loved to see this young man. He's in his 30s now. Mm-hmm.

What he could have been. He's an All-75 player. He's a two-time an all 75 player he's a two-time finals mvp he's a two-time defensive player of the year but think about how good he could have been if injuries not robbed him yeah uh because he started out he was an elite elite i'm talking about of the elite defenders yeah then he turned himself into an offensive juggernaut with the mid-range. He could get to the basket. He could finish. His three ball was good, but the mid-range is where he operated.

He had it all. He had a complete package. Yeah. But injuries, you know, it kind of started with Zsa Zsa. When Zsa Zsa patrolled you, stuck his foot up under Kawhi, shot a shot, and he came down on his ankle. He did that on purpose? You already know to clear the way.

You already know to clear the way when someone is landing. You already know that. They changed the rules. Now that's a flagrant foul. Okay. So you shoot free throws and you get the ball back.

But I think that had a lot to do. And then, you know, we know what transpired. He had the quad tendinosis. And, you know, he said he should have played. He said, I wasn't ready. My doctor says I'm not ready. That blew up. And then he, but yeah, yeah.

But they needed this game today. Kawhi, Kyrie was sensational. But I think the thing is, what we're having here is that Kyrie had, well, I don't think he had any points in the first quarter. Right. And then he explodes and goes for 40 in the next three quarters. We see Luka have that the first game. Luka scored 11 in the first and then scored none in the second.

They're going to have to balance this thing out because the mere fact that they spotted a team 31 and got back, and not only did they get back, they took the lead by one for a brief second. And had Paul George not hit the shot of the shots,

they had an opportunity to get the rebound and possibly go up three, maybe even four with a three with an and one. So they're going to have to put this thing together. Luka's going to have to be a little bit more efficient. Terrence Mann is doing a good job of aggravating them. But I didn't like, what I didn't like, what I saw from Jason Kidd. You know Luka has five fouls.

Put Luka on Terrence Mann, and then you let pj washington handle because first of all luca doesn't want to pick up that third foul no luca is not a great defender i know y'all gonna put these stats up there say well when luca's the closest defender guys are shooting this guys we've got five years of empirical data luca is not a good defender okay he's not and that's okay that's not i'm not taking a shot at him because i think everybody in the chat knows what i feel about luca but he's not and another thing we know james harden his left hand i'm doing everything i can to keep him from getting to his dominant side his dominant hand yeah make him go right god they're on his right why are you on his right side be on the other side i just don't I just don't get the way

they were defending him. And after he goes like he makes three straight buckets on Luka, they call timeout and then they switch it. Well, it's already too late now. Yeah. The Mavs tied up. Come back to L.A. 2-2. Sensational game by James Harden

and Paul George. Jalen Brunson. He was 2-2. Sensational game by James Harden and Paul George. Excuse me. Jalen Brunson. Woo! He was on one today. 47 points. Piles the Knicks to a 3-1 lead over the Sixers. Brunson shot 18 of 34.

Grabbed four rebounds, making just one turnover in 43 minutes of play. Hmm. Man, listen. That's crazy. The funny thing about Jalen Brunson having 47 points is the most player points ever

by a Knicks player was still, the record still was Bernard King who had a record of 46 and it's still for 40 years. So Brunson had 47 points a night and he didn't even have over 100 points in the game. They had 97.

He scored 47 of their 97 points. Oh, that's crazy. Like when you think about it, that's crazy. That was damn near a one-man show, a one-man wrecking ball. He was. He was. Joel Embiid,

1.05 from the field, 1 of 2 from the free throw line. He was minus 4. He played all 12 minutes. After the game, Joel Embiid spoke about the lack of home court advantage and the significant amount of Knick fans at Wells Fargo Arena. Let's take a listen to what Joel had to say.

But we'll get back to that. We're having a little technical difficulties. Man, home field advantage. Yeah, because the Knicks took over the building. Because, you know, that's a short ride. Yeah, but that ain't really got nothing to do with the game. Ain't no impact on the game. But when you're on that court, listen, I can only attest and speak for myself. When I'm on the game. But once you, when you in that, when you on that court, but I can, listen,

I can only attest and speak for myself. When I'm on the field, you already know what I'm talking about when you're in that zone. When you're in a certain zone and you're locked in,

what's going on around you don't even matter. You can hear it. You know it's there. But you're focused on what you got to do in between the lines. Obviously,

in between the, all right, now pause. In between the hardwood on the court. So I'm not sure how that would even matter, whether it's Knicks fans, whether it's... Well, it was no fans at all. It should not have. There's a reason why teams play for home. So why does the Bengals want to win their division?

Because you get a what? Yeah, the crowd, the noise, the noise. Okay, so it does matter. Because you get penalties, you get the opposing team to jump off sides, you get the opposing team, especially when they got the ball, now when they have the ball, they false start,

and you get to jump, now you get to jump off on a snap. Now, let's put that in basketball terms. How does having all the fans and them screaming really affect a game of basketball? Because you can't hear. Because you can't hear. You can't hear switches. You can't hear coaches' instructions. They're shouting out instructions.

Yeah. I mean, you just don't just, they just don't, hey, they're just not in a vacuum. Yeah, I understand. I just, I understand that. Okay, maybe that's just me. Maybe I'm tripping because I can care less what's surrounding me. But here's the thing,

you're only one of 11. You got 12. You got 11 guys on the field. You won. What about the quarterback? You think the quarterback don't want to hear? Oh yeah, listen, we work on that silent count real well now. Real well. Let's take a listen to what Joel had to say after the game. Disappointing.

You know, I love our fans. I think it's unfortunate. And I'm not calling them out, but it is disappointing. You know, obviously, you got a lot of Knicks fans, and they're down the road and never seen it. And I've been here for 10 years. Yeah, it kind of pisses me off, especially because Philly is considered a sports town.

So, you know, they've always shown up, and I don't think that should happen. Yeah, it's not okay. A lot of times, though, Joe, when you have a playoff game, I sell my ticket, that'll buy my season tickets for next year. That's what you do. You think that's what happened? Of course.

Of course. But hold on. You're only down, what are they down? 2-1, right? They're down 3-1 now. What I got to do. I want my season tickets for next year. So if I sell my two playoff tickets

or I sell my three, four playoff tickets, guess what? That'll give me an ability to buy the whole season next year. Do you know what playoff tickets go for? Yeah, a lot, I'm sure.

Okay. A lot. But I just don't see Philly fans really giving up their tickets. When I think about Philadelphia fans, they don't play. They travel well. They travel well. Have you ever seen

the Philadelphia Eagles fans travel to an away game? Explain to me how, okay, it's a home game, so tell me how there are more Philadelphia fans, seemingly, excuse me, more Knicks fans than 76ers fans. It depends on what it was.

It was probably all in the nosebleeds. They were just louder than everybody else. Now, Joel, they were close enough to have an impact on the game because Joel Embiid would have addressed it had it not been an issue or he felt it was an issue. And that's what happens. We know, hey, when you play the Cowboys, they take over. You play the Steelers, they take over. You play the Packers, they take over. You play certain teams.

When we were in the 90s, wherever we went, the Broncos, we took over your stadium. We travel. We come to Kansas. We come to the Chargers or we come to the Raiders or Oakland, LA. It didn't matter. We take over. We take over.

Yeah, because we travel like that. Right, right take over. Yeah, because we travel like that. Right, right, right. And some teams just travel like that. And that's a short trip. That's a train ride. Mm-hmm. How long is that? Philly to New York.

That's about, what, two hours? About an hour and 45 minutes? Well, it all depends on what you're riding. What you're riding on, the Acela? Or you're riding a regular train? Oh, okay. I'm being an Uber. No, you don't want to be an Uber. You want to take the Acela or you're riding a regular train. Oh, okay. I'm being an Uber. Nah, you don't want to be an Uber.

You want to take the Acela. That's a train or something? Yeah. Like Amtrak. In Miami, we call it Brightline. Brightline. Okay. Yeah. Acela. I like it.

But it was good. Jalen Brunson was sensational today. And the thing you knew the first two games, he was very, very inefficient. And they won those games. The Sixers probably should have won game two. They had a five-point lead with 30 seconds. And they end up losing that game. That's the one if they lose this series, they're going to kick themselves. Because they had every opportunity.

And they're going to have to get Joel. It's going to have to play better in the fourth quarter. He had 1.005 field goal shooting. One of two, he was minus four. He played all 12 minutes. He's going to have to be better. He was seven of 19,

one of six from the three-point line. Tyrese Maxson was eight of 21. Hey, Uberay Jr. gave him 19. Tobias Harris gave him 10. But the bench didn't give him any. The bench gave him six points. Campain gave him five. And Nicholas Batum.

And see, the difference is when Batum is letting them three, when he can give you 10, he can give you 12 points. Because that's the guy. I'm not really... Paul Reed's kind of been of a disappointment i was expecting him to play a little better than what he's played but he only played four minutes and that's that's what you can expect oh cho in situations like this you got to ride your horses you're not going to be your rotation is not going to be as deep same as they know as they normally are. You normally play nine, ten guys. You might cut that rotation down to seven.

And you look at what the Knicks, OG, 47 minutes. Hardenstein, 28 minutes. Jalen Brunson, 44 minutes. Josh Hart, 46 minutes. Devin Chinzo, 28 minutes. Their big guns are playing major, major minutes because you can L a four. You don't want a team to go on a 10 12 nothing run run. Yeah.

So you got to play you guys a lot. Yeah, guys just got to suck it up. You say, you know what? Hey, I can rest in the offseason. Get as much rest as you can in between games cold tub and a whole lot of partying going on able able one guy that could ever do that.

Only one guy could drop 50, go to the casinos, play golf, smoke cigars, and that was Mike. Yeah. Everybody else sit your ass down, go get off your feet, get your cold tub, because he's the only one that could do it. Yeah, and don't forget what

Michael Jordan pregame meal was. You know what he used to eat right before games, huh? Charles Oakley done told you. You want to say it for the chat? I don't know what he used to eat. Yeah, you don't know what he... Chat, chat, y'all please tell Unc what Michael Jordan

used to eat before games. The greatest basketball player of all time. Something healthy. Yeah, okay. I'm sure the chat will let you know. It's time for our first segment of the day, and it's called a News Cap.

News Cap. News Cap. Before we go, it's been reported. Uh-oh. Minnesota coach, he got ran into by Mike carlin those guys yes sir torn patella tendon okay ah oh you knew it immediately i thought it was an acl right it's been reported it's a torn patella tendon speedy recovery uh how soon i don't know they'll probably just put a brace on I don't think they're having surgery

because he be laid up so they're going to probably just put a brace on it and say you got to stay your ass out the way but he saw him coming he tried to get out of the way yeah he could he tried you can't move like you used to now you can move like you used to you're going to be alright. Jerry Jones.

Wait, who? Jerry Jones. He back in the headlines again? He compared his 2024 draft strategy to robbing a bank. The Cowboys selected eight players in the 2024 NFL draft, but Jerry Jones did not select a running back in this year's class.

Jones was asked about teams selecting three offensive linemen. His response, why do you rob banks? Because that's where the money is. Again, anybody in the chat that's a Dallas Cowboys fan, I just, again, I want to apologize for you having

to deal with someone that continues to over-promise and under-deliver for so many years and the players get the brunt of the of the issues from the fans when yeah they're not the problem now you see who the problem is and i'm going to continue to shed light onto it until things change well we already knew who the problem was don't you i mean we did did we know yeah we already knew who the problem was, don't you? Did we know? Yeah. Did we know who the problem was?

Listen, he drafted three linemen. He drafted three offensive linemen. No one needed a running back. And I think what he's doing is he's playing chess right now. If you needed a running back, you had Frank Gore Jr. out there who had 1,100 last year.

You had Dylan Johnson out there who also had 1,100 plus last year. But I think he's going to sign... Zeke. He's going to sign Zeke. He's going to sign Zeke. Obviously, it's always a waiting period. There's always some type

of mysterious mystique he tries to keep going, not wanting to let people know what he's doing. And he's, listen, he's running his show the way he wants to run it. And again,

the definition of insanity, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over your way and expecting different results. And that's just not the way it works. It's not the way it works. Sometimes you can't get out your own way. But again, if you're a Cowboys fan in the chat, I apologize sincerely, sincerely that you guys have to deal with that. Jerry, look, Jerry has always shown a love and an affinity for the guys that he drafted. Yes, sir.

But Jerry's a businessman. You think about the people. He cut Larry Allen, cut Emmitt Smith, cut Michael Irvin. Yeah. He's about the people. He cut Larry Allen. He cut Emmitt Smith. Cut Michael Irvin. He's about to cut Troy Eggman and Troy retired. So that just goes to show you. That just goes to show you that at the end of the day, Jerry's about business. Now, listen at the names that I mentioned.

He drafted Emmitt. He was the owner when they drafted Emmitt. Yeah. He was the owner. The only one he wasn't the owner of is when they drafted Mike. Right. Because Mike came in 88.

But Troy, Emmitt, Larry Allen. All. First ballot Hall of Famers. Hall of Famers, yeah. And he released them when

he didn't feel they could help him. Yeah. That's why I tell the people in Dallas, guys in Dallas, get your money. Because when it comes time, ask Zeke. That's why he got to pop Zeke. Ask Dan Bryant. Yeah. Dan Bryant had $30 million left on that contract, if I'm not mistaken.

Mm-hmm. So that's what I tell guys. Your day is coming. Your day of atonement is coming. Oh, yeah. So this notion, oh, they love me. They would never. They would.

Absolutely not. Oh, no. I got no better example. Tom Brady. Yeah. And let me tell you what happens. Let me tell you. Stay with me, Joe.

You see, Tom Brady did something that caused a domino effect. Right. Not just around, not just in New England, but around the league. Tom Brady's first contract, he gave him a discount. Yes, sir. From that point on, the New England Patriots expected a discount from Tom Brady. Right. And not only did they expect a discount from Tom Brady, everybody that wanted to stay in New England

what did you have to do Ocho? Give them a discount so now, because Tom Brady won, and he gave team a discount but what did team say? if team say well, he won't give us a discount, and fans say well he don't want to win you see how they don't trick you?

you see how they trick the fans Ocho? if I don't take, now think about. You see how they don't trick you? You see how they trick the fans on show? Yeah, they will every time. If I don't take... Now, think about it. People at home, you go to your job. Your job says, well, you making this. They say, well, we... I know you make $125,000,

but we want to drop your salary down to $100,000. Nah, I'm not going... So, you're not a team player? Oh, so you don't want Apple to win? Right. You don't want Amazon to win, huh? Mm-hmm. Huh?

That ain't got nothing to do with me. We want to get Sue. We want to get Sue. Sue in HR. She's amazing. Well, hey, well, you better go to Paul in finance and get some money because old Shannon here. Mm-mm.

But that's what happened. Pay attention closely what they do. Tom Brady gave New England a discount in his very first contract. That's why you have to be careful because once you give

somebody a discount, they're unwilling to pay the full price. They're going to keep expecting it too. And then you have to understand Tom Brady continued, continued to give discounts

when he was up as far as contract negotiations are concerned because he wanted to make sure they were able to build the pieces and to put the pieces around him on offense and defensively to continue to keep them a contender year in and year out. But you have to understand, Tom Brady's situation was a little different. You got to understand who he was going to. Tom Brady was going home to a woman making $44 million a year. Making more to him.

Absolutely. Making way more to him. So you're going home to a woman making $44 million a year. Making more than him. Absolutely. Making way more than him. So you're going home to a woman making $44 million a year. Okay, me having to take a hometown discount to make sure my team stays in the tech so that we can continue to win Super Bowls and be in contention year in and year out, it's okay because that's what I got. Look at my security blanket. It's perfect.

Yeah, but guess what? When Tom Brady tried to have influence on the team and tell the team who to draft, what did they say? That's not your job. So if it's not my job, if it's not my job to tell you who to draft, why the hell my job to figure out the cap? And again, remember

at the end, when Tom Brady wanted a deal, what did the Patriots tell him? After all those years that he gave them a discount when it came that's Tom Brady a six a three-time MVP he had won six Super Bowls he had taken you to nine yeah and when he asked for all what he had done what did they tell him now Mr. Kraft want to put all this on coach Belichick but at last I checked Mr. Kraft is to put all this on Coach Belichick. But at last I checked, Mr. Kraft is the owner. Yes, sir.

Just like he told Bill to go trade Jimmy G and coach Belichick did it. He could have said Tommy. Tommy. That's what he calls him. Tommy isn't going anywhere. Anywhere. Yeah. So you can't you can't say, well, this was Billy decision.

Right. Because Coach Belichick doesn't own the team. And when you're dealing with something like this, it starts at the top of the flagpole. It comes down at the top of the flagpole. Right. Now, Coach Belichick is up under that. But that was his decision. So you can't get mad at something that you did because Tom went to town for anyone to Super Bowl. And like you said, Billy told me that Tom was done. But that's how that's why you have to be careful giving discounts, because once you start giving discounts, people will only out. And the moment you stop, they'll go somewhere else and pay full price.

They won't put, because you gave them a discount. You gave them a discount. Yeah. But if you stop giving them a discount, Ocho, they'll go somewhere else. If they put,

I ain't paying that, but you paying full price over there. Why you won't give me my full price? You used to give me discounts. Yeah. Yeah. So, I advise guys, look, it's your decision.

Whatever you decide, but just know your day of reckoning coming. Now you know the young boys ain't giving nobody no goddamn discount. They don't play that. Not today. But they buy their money. They want every last penny.

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After being shot on Saturday night. Tank Dale, who was the victim of a shooting in Stanford, Florida. Thankfully, Dale only suffered a minor wound and was released from the hospital. Yeah. KPRC reported that Dale was an innocent bystander. He was not involved in any altercation, but was simply caught in the crossfire.

Remember, that bullet ain't got no name on it. Yeah, he showed, no, I shot him a text message. I shot him a text message too, man. Tell him, you're my prayers, man. You're my prayers.

And after that, he responded back and said, everything is good. I'm good. I appreciate you. my prayers, man. You're my prayers. And after that, he responded back and said, everything is good. I'm good. I appreciate you. And I just told him, you got to move a little different, baby. You got to move a little different. I understand it's the off season. You want to enjoy yourself. You want to go out and have fun with your friends and your homeboys, but you got to move differently. You just have to. You have to. And the people that you surround yourself with should understand that you have to move differently. You shouldn't be at places

anyway, for one, where they can carry. You shouldn't be at places like that anyway. Man, look here. That's what my old man used to always say all the time. Papa used to say, boy, if you got to go somewhere and you got to carry a gun, you don't need to be there. Oh, no. No, sir. Not at all.

10 were reportedly shot in the incident and a 16-year-old is under arrest. All victims suffered non-threatening life injuries and mainly to their lower extremities. Yeah. Where he's got arrested? 16. Come on, now.

You got to be in places where it's the grown folk. You in the NFL now. Yeah. With the grown folk. You ain't got to worry about none of that. Yeah, but he say good. He in good spirits, man. I talked to him. So I'm glad. I'm ready to see him on that field. I'm ready to see him on that field. So that's all I'm waiting on. Ocho, look. I raised my hand because I've been a part of it. I wanted to show my hometown, the people that I knew growing up, that I hadn't changed. Yes, sir.

That I'm still the Shannon Sharp. I'm Sterling and Cheryl's little brother. I'm Mary Porter's grandson. And I'm the same guy. And I want to go out there and play cards. They smoking, they drinking, they doing whatever they doing. They rolling dice, they shooting,

they talking crazy, blah, blah, blah. I get it. But I wanted to show them I hadn't changed. I hadn't changed. Right. But my circumstances had. Yeah. And I needed to move according

to the circumstances that I was in now. I couldn't be i couldn't think i couldn't do what i once could so i had to step back and i needed them to understand that and i needed to understand why even though a lot of times they wouldn't put me in harm's way right you had stuff on them nah sharp you go ahead and go because i don't want that hey you representing glenville yeah because i don't want anything because if you get stopped they're gonna they're gonna hey we already know that if they're doing something reckless a sharp a go on a lead but like you said he's there it's a bystander two people get to argue yeah they pull out them

things what yeah they ain't got no he ain't got no name. Hey, look here. There ain't no sharpshooters. Yeah. Definitely not there. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Oh, shit. Yeah. Uh-oh, I'm sorry.

And now my family coming together. Mm-hmm. Now they letting doves on a Sunday. Right. Letting doves, white doves go on a Sunday. Come on, bro. Yeah. You have to have you have to

you have to you're not that you're the same person but your circumstances are different always and you need to move according to your circumstances yeah i think he'll understand that i'm sure people will get in his ear now those that surround themselves with him those friends that were there before he made it, I think they understand now as well. You just can't do it. You got to understand when we were growing up, and I'm acting like I'm just old and I'm ancient. But again, when I was growing up, once I did made it, I always had this phrase that I always said, I left Liberty City without really leaving because the individuals I grew up with,

the standards and the street code or whatever it was, I'm not from the streets, but I'm just saying the individuals that I know that were, they were structure. They were structure. It was different. I can think about me trying to even hang out on the goddamn corner

or even trying to go to a club when that's not even what i do anyway so i'm really not out like that anyway but just man man them dudes run me man run me up man if you don't get and you get from around here man it's saying saying no you ain't even you ain't even built like that for one i i you know i come home and go buy three four pieces i go get a couple of cases of beer stand on the corner and then they're like hey you know what happens somebody ride by they ain't like man that's sharp we can't do that if i gotta be with the enemy i'm wetting the whole corner yeah they don't matter who's sitting out there.

They never put you in harm's way, though. They never put you in harm's way. No, but we got to be more careful not to put ourselves in harm's way. You're right. You're right.

I have cookouts. Ocho, like three, four years years and my last one i retired everybody come all i ask is look here no loud talking come my grandma's in the window they respect they respected that you know she wasn't outside she was in the window she just looking and she bobbing her head she having a great time i say bro y'all can drink as much as you want i say what say, what's there to argue about? Wasn't going to be no gambling. So what is there to argue about? You get all the steak. You get crab legs.

You get prawns. You get jumbo prawns. You know, I got 100 pounds of crab legs. I got 100 pounds of prawns. I got 150 T-bones. I got hot dogs, hamburgers, you name it. Name a liquor that was there. Vodka.

I'm talking about all kinds. Henderson, Belvedere, and Grey Goose, and Chopin. Yeah, I'm talking about top of the line stuff. Crowns, all the different flavors. I laid it out for them. All I ask is that you, first of all, we're in a neighborhood. Yeah. At that point in time, we're like the only blacks in there.

Mm-hmm. So, that's not right my grandma my grandma's supposed to be living here for a long time right it's not there for it up for okay great respect yeah great respect not but that's the kind of respect that we've kind of built up in the community my sister have had both her hips repaired. My sister can call any restaurant. Okay, Libby, we'll bring it to you. Would you like lemonade? Would you like sweet tea to go with that?

Oh, no problem. She called her friends. Libby, okay, as soon as I get off work, I'll bring it to you. When you carry yourself tank, you was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Got lucky. Yeah. Got lucky. Yeah. Got lucky. Probably a flesh wound in the lower extremities.

Take that as a sign. Move differently, bro. You got to. You different. You different. Yeah. Oh, Joe, we have one of the most insane high school track videos. 16 videos 16 year old quincy wilson he's a monster he's a monster runs a 47 30 he's 40 16 years old he ran a 44 37 split

to get back in this thing had they not dropped the baton, he'd have got him. He'd have sucked him up. If he was within 10, he'd have got him. I'm looking at it now. From the bullet school in Maryland. Hey, that's Drake Relays, huh? Yeah, that's Drake. See my wife? That's him right there. Look at him running with his head back.

Look at him coming, Ocho. He's coming. Had they not dropped that baton, had they not got run over, fallen down, he'd have sucked him up. Look at him coming, Ocho. Look at him coming Ocho He coming Had they not dropped Had they not got Run O falling down He'd have sucked him up Look at him coming Ocho Look at him coming Hey boy he's strong

What? Yeah He only Look at this Ocho Look at this Ocho That young boy 44 and 16 Come get him son

Come get him You show he's 16? How are you that strong at 16 already? That's grown man strength running like that. 6, 44, 37 split. Woo. Boy, that's moving, huh? Hell yeah, it is.

Man, we pray for the days of 49. Hell. Bro. Man, we prayed for the days of 49. Hell. Dude, bro. I mean, guys weren't running that kind of time back when I was in school. You bet. I was Antonio McKay. 44 split. That's crazy.

Antonio McKay, a lot of people, if you were in the track and field, you know who Antonio McKay is. He had the record. I think he ran 46 flat. But this was back in probably 82. Yeah. You thought it was fast as hell. Oh, he'll book it. Roger Kingdom was at the Georgia Olympics.

Roger Kingdom could have been a decathlete because he won the high jump. He won the 6'11 high jump. He won the hurdles. He won the gold medal in 84 and 88. We had some monsters come out to Georgia. We call them Georgia Olympics. The state meet. Right.

Reek ran 20.9 in the 200. Oh, yeah. Reek could go now. Oh, yeah. Reek could go. Oh, that young dude right there? I wonder if he played football. He really thin, Ocho. I mean, at 60, first of all, most 400-meter runners.

Right. Michael Johnson probably weighed 165, 170. I think Noah Lyles is about 160. So he's 16. He probably 145. Oh, yeah Lyles is about 160. So he's 16. He probably 145. Oh yeah, he's a little low. Can you imagine though at his age playing football and running

like that? Because ain't nothing out there going to be able to touch you. Nothing out there going to be able to catch you. But once they hit you, all you got to do is look at Ronaldo Neymar. He had the world record able to touch you. Nothing, they're going to be able to catch you. But once they hit you, Ronaldo, all you got to do is look at Ronaldo Neymar. He had the world record in 100-meter hurdles. He ran the shallow

cross, and it was a zone. But you know when you look at the quarterback, you tell him that is man. You better sit it down. He looked at the quarterback, it was a zone. And kept moving. And boom, and he went right back It was his own. And kept moving. And boom, boom. And he went right back to track and field.

Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, Joe, check this video out. There's a video of a woman getting upset when her baby daddy didn't buy food for all the kids. Let's take a listen to the sound. Uh-oh. I told you. I told you to stop bringing her some food if you're not gonna bring the rest of my kids some food i only have one child with you bro i know but still i told you that's not fair

for her siblings for her to have food and they can't they don't got nothing that's not right i mean that's not really my problem though bro like i make sure my daughter is fed bro i mean yeah i get that but still you can't think about my other kids they don't have to be your kids you would give them a little snack or something you could bring her food that's not my that's not my problem bro like i i i i'm sorry about your other kids but i only got one daughter bro and i gotta make sure i gotta make sure she's good so i told you that's not fair for her siblings for her to have food and they can't they don't got nothing that's not right i mean that's not really for her siblings, for her to have food, and they don't got nothing. That's not right.

I mean, that's not really my problem, though, bro. Like, I make sure my daughter is fed, bro. Hey, that's a tough one, too, now. I thought they not even together, though. No. They not even together, so. No. Really, like.

He don't have no response. That would have been a nice gesture if he did that. I can really say that. It would have been a nice gesture. That would have been a nice gesture if he did that. I can't really say that. It would have been a nice gesture. It would have been a nice gesture, but they're not even together, and that's not his responsibility. It would have been cool to do it, but he's not obligated.

Now, if y'all together and she has... Oh, yeah, we feed everybody. Everybody eat. Everybody eat. No, no, no, no, no. But in that situation, don't put that, don't put the other father's

responsibility on him. That ain't right. Now, if you want to do it out of the kindness of his heart, then it's okay. It's okay. See, this is a good conversation because I ain't dating you

unless you got kids. You got to have one, maybe two, two, you know, because for one, everybody eats for one. But I just like women that have kids. And somebody asked me on Instagram, why they got to have kids? Because women with kids have structure. They have discipline because they have kids, you know, you know, and no women that don't have kids, they never have snacks in the pantry. I like to get up

three, four in the morning and get a Capri Sun and steal some of the kids' snacks. And women that don't have kids don't never have no food, Unc. And you know what they always want to do? Go out and eat. But no kids always want to go out to eat and give looks like it's a goddamn fashion show. This ain't no motherfucking fashion show. I'm hungry.

3 in the morning. Capri Sun. Unc, do you know what Capri Sun tastes like at 3 in the morning after a session? Nah, hopefully I'm sleeping at 3 a the morning. Capri Sun, do you know what Capri Sun tastes like at 3 in the morning after a session? Nah, hopefully I'm sleeping at 3 a.m. Nah, you ain't hear me. Oh, after a session. Oh, yes, I'm cold. Man.

Yeah, I was joking. Let me ask you something. I ain't trying to be funny. Please tell me you've had a honey bun in the microwave, warm it up for 12 seconds, nice and hot with a Capri Sun. Nah, I ain't never had a honey bun in the microwave, warm it up, warm it up for 12 seconds, nice and hot with a Capri Sun. No, I ain't never had a...

A zebra cake. Oh, I love them zebra cakes. Yeah, I have zebra cakes. Oh. I don't like to eat after one of them sessions. I just want something cool. Come on, be real fast.

Yeah, okay, okay. I understand. Well, for me, for me, I purposely, first time, and I can tell you a story because, Chad, we family. I can tell you a story because we chat we family i can tell

you i was dating a woman she was about i mean i was probably 27 at the time and she you know she had kids you know she was uh about 53 she was 53 i was 27 20 yeah she was about 53 no i stayed the night and you know whatever and it was time to go she woke me up three in the morning and say uh baby you got to go you know you can't you can't stay here I said what you mean I say you you came here and you did your business and what you need to do now I'm gonna give you a snack and a capri son but you got to go I'm like wait a minute like yeah I did the walk of shame with food at least she let she she kicked me out with food now I felt bad. At least she kicked me out with food. Now, I felt bad, but at least she sent me home with something to eat and something on my stomach.

Now, a single woman, no food, no nothing. I'm just talking about my experiences. They want to go eat. That's happened. They want to put that shit on yeah what that's a bad feeling Ocho because you know we've all done it like

uh you know late at night you know you want me to stay or you want me to go I'm going to get up early in the morning won't you go home it'd be real tough you know what

it's 4 o'clock in the morning drive real slow baby you know what I'm saying hold on you know what's really bad though it's like when you finish and you really don't want no company

yeah and the first thing you say is shit what you finna do Yeah yeah yeah Yeah that's what I'm saying Ocho You like Yeah

And so I got hit with that Ocho So you know I'm like okay Whoa whoa whoa They hit you with that Yeah Ocho So I'm about to parlay You know I'm about to

You know I'm about to Interlace the fingers Yeah In my hair I'm about to watch a little TV Right She asked me what I was doing I'm about to interlace the fingers. Yeah. In my hair, I'm about to watch a little TV. Right. She asked me what I was doing. You tried to get comfortable.

I said I'm watching TV. Right. She said, I told you. Huh? So at that point, I was like, because, you know, sometimes people just, I thought she was joking. Playing around. Right, right, right. Yeah.

She said, no. I said, you don't want me to? She said, no, I don't. She had to be older. I guarantee she was older. Man. I was driving. I said, man, I think she might have had somebody.

She wanted me to get on out there before he come over. Ah. That had to be it my dad doubted that's why i just asked you was she older older women no she was she was younger oh yeah she yeah she had somebody she had somebody yeah yeah she did she did yeah because my grandfather used to say boy hey look here everybody got somebody it's just to what extent yeah yeah yeah but she hit me with that that so i felt i felt i felt some type of way because I had been on the other side of that. Yeah.

You know, when they, you know. Mm-hmm. You got to be careful. Now, something my grandma always told me. Women are taken. Women are married. Women have boyfriends. Listen, everybody's single

depending on who asking. Mm-hmm. All right? Mm-hmm. Chat, stay with me, man. You know, you got some women that be like, Everybody's single Depending on who asking Alright Chat stay with me now You know you got some women That be like Ah no that ain't true Everybody is single

Depending on who the individual is That's asking But that's neither here nor there Alright now Learn to manage your expectations So when it happen to you You're alright You're going to be alright in the head You ain't going to have that pain in your chest Have a disagreement learn to manage your expectations so when it happen to you, you're all right. You're going to be all right in the head.

You ain't going to have that pain in your chest. Have a disagreement. Have a disagreement on Sunday. Yeah. She might not be, she might not be singable for 24 hours. Yeah. Yeah.

The signs are right there. The signs are always there. And when you see it, just act accordingly. Yeah. The signs are right there. The signs are always there. And when you see it, just act accordingly. Yeah. Nah, but I can't. I can't now. I can't.

Like I said, it's been 30 years. Yeah. You won't find one woman in 30 years to say, well, yeah, he spent the night at my place. Oh, you don't spend the night?

Not no more? I wish I might. Oh, you don't spend the night? Not no more? I wish I might. Oh, no. I could never. I'm stealing that. I'm stealing that. I wish I might. I like that.

Ocho. Ocho, you done told me I got nine lives and I done used up seven. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You right, you right, you right, you right. I told you I had sleep paralysis and the dude kicked the door in.

How you think I'm going to sleep in somebody else's crib like that? Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Oh, no. You're right. I'm good, you got me. I said, I prayed to God, I said, God, if you get me out of this one. This one? You ain't got to have no problem with that anymore, huh?

Man, Ocho, he up there explaining something, you know. I never forget it, Ocho. So, you know, I had my shirt and shorts on. I put my shoes on. He was like, and they arguing,

they getting to tussling. Right, right, right, right. He's like, he gonna say, hey, did you intervene? No. Ocho, you know what happened?

He said, he's like, he's like, Sharp, I ain't got no problem with you. Okay, okay, you good. He said, I'm tired of this B-line. I'm saying to myself, I'm tired of the line, too. She's lying to both of us. I hit that dope. Bad looking. Ocho, I hit that note.

You got to be careful. Certain dudes don't know how to react without crashing out to incidents like that. Love make you do crazy things. Love will make you do crazy things, man. It will.

That's why you won't find a woman in all my years of dating that can ever tell you I had a key to her place or I came up unannounced. Oh, you ain't never pop up? Hell no. No, sir.

Never. I could never do that. You won't find one woman say, yeah, he had a key to my place. Oh, yeah, he popped up unannounced. I don't do that. You won't find one woman say, yeah, he had a key to my place. Oh, yeah, he popped up unannounced. I don't do that. No, man. And you're right, Ocho. Look here.

This is what I know in all my years of dating. A man might not want the woman that he's with. But let another dude show interest in him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He don't want him

until somebody else want him. Yeah. And then he'll climb. Then he'll go, bro. Like a fool, yeah. Yes! Yeah. Yeah, it happens.

It happens. I mean, it happens lots of times until, at times, sometimes, you know, dudes get to a point where they don't even care no more. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah.

That could happen. Yeah. Listen, dudes get to a point where they don't even care no more, man. All right. Whatever. Sometimes it's a blessing and a curse.

Yeah. Because like I told you, when I do walk in with that chopper, if I wasn't who I was. Oh yeah. It's a different, it's a different scenario. Yeah.

Different scenario. Yeah. And you know, he was like, now, if he had a walk then, and you know, he saw a boy trampolining the girl.

Oh, all of a sudden, that triggered something. Yeah. That's a whole nother ball. You know, I think I went up in there. I said,

trampoline. I'm like the Olympic traveler. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I didn't hit that thing. And then you about to sell me flips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm traveling. Yeah.

You saw them came in like that there? Yeah. There'd have been no nightcap with Uncle Ocho. There'd have been no nightcap. I know that. He know that. But I'm saying that, nah, nah. But I did see.

Hey. Oh, man. hey what you call them I saw a video one time where the dude brought his daughter some food and his baby mama ended up throwing the food out throw the soda out, throw the burger I remember that, I saw that one on Twitter too nah, I couldn't, like I said

man, I'm scared I ain't finna tussle with nobody you know what I'm saying,, Ocho? I live a little way just so people look at me like, damn. I ain't going to grab up, you know, just let me go about my business. I just want to pass through the city. That's all I want to do. I ain't trying to tussle with nobody because I ain't got it in me no more. I ain't got it in me no more, Ocho. I just want to move on about my business. What did Gil say? He took it off. That's crazy. Gil commented, hit me when you get home knowing I'm going to be asleep. Yeah, yeah, make sure you stop

at all stops. I'm so glad Gil said something. Boy, did you see what Gil did a long time ago with the red ring? Yeah. And purposely act like they was cool just so he could swap it out? Gil, boy, you a goat, boy.

I ain't even know about that story. I retweeted it earlier today, but that was a legendary move right there, boy. That was legendary. Gil out here, boy. Gil. Hey. Man, youill out there, Brian. McGill. Hey. Man, you know, man,

Ocho, have you ever looked back on your life and thought about, like, man, this could've ended bad. This could've ended bad. That could've ended bad. Yeah. Yeah, well, I don't have as many as you, Unc. Nowhere near you.

Unc, you had nine lives. You know, I've made a mistake and got right right away. Okay, that right there, never again. Never again. Uh-uh. It ain't happening. And so then I couldn't have people around me that can actually trigger anything like that to even happen again. I just can't.

Yeah. I can't. But Ocho, you don't know. I mean, some of the best looking ones, some of the ones you're like, oh, she would never put me in harm's way. Oh, yes, yes, she would. I told you before,

you got to see people in all their seasons. You got to see them in all their seasons first. You got to see them when they broke. You got to see them when they happy. And you got to, most importantly, you got to see them when they mad. When you see them when they mad, that tell you who they really are, what they really feel, and how they think about you. Well. Listen, the tongue is a powerful vessel now.

Yeah. And they will tell on themselves when they are angry. Now, when you say certain things when you're angry, I keep it right there in my database. So now I know how you really feel. So I know everything, how you carry yourself when you're happy. I know that's really phony. Again, because of the opportunity and the convenience that presented itself

or that you're afforded in general. But I know how you feel. So I just move accordingly. Okay, bet. Just take a little mental note. That's all. Boy, my granny used to say all the time. She said, boy, the mouth is the nastiest thing in the world

because it'll say or do anything. Yeah. When you think about it, won't it? I did. Ocho, I did. Like I said, I know I had a praying grandma. I know prayers. I didn't know she was praying

or that I know God even heard. I had to. Ain't no way. Hold on. Chad, think about what I'm telling you. not even heard. Right. Had to. Ain't no way. Hold on. Chad. Think about what I'm telling you. Think about what I'm not telling you. I'm going to leave it at that. Because I done been in some,

I done been in some ish. Oh, Ocho. Yeah, I know. I know. Ocho, what do you think the term, what do you think? I was hell when I was way. Well, yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. Ocho, what do you think the term, what do you think? I was hell when I was whale. Whale, yeah.

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