Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Super Bowl is EXPENSIVE, Unc's 1 that got away, Patrick Mahomes distractions

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Chiefs being underdogs 3 playoff games in a row, Unc goes deep about his past breakups and discussed Patrick Mahomes Sr. being arrested for DWI. 00:00 - Introduction05:30 - Are the Chief being disrespected?25:00 - Shannon Sharpe talks breakups44:00 - Patrick Mahomes Sr. arrested for DWI #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85 route runner extraordinaire bingos legend ringer famer three-time three-time all-pro six-time pro bowler chad ocho cinco johnson mr liberty city himself y'all know what it is please please make sure y'all like make sure you hit that subscribe button ocho we're 965 000 subs we 35,000 away from that magic number. We got to get on the ball, Ocho. Ocho, we got to get on the ball because the goal is to have it by Thursday before we go live.

Right. So I've been thinking to myself, I said, I tweeted earlier today, or it might have been yesterday, who can I hit or who can I call? I had people in mind to give us a surge, to give us a push, the push we need to be at one million before the live show. Everybody told me, listen, at the rate y'all going, you don't need to call nobody. You will get there by Thursday's live show.

So I kind of held off on it. We at, what we at? 965. If we at 965 right now, with the way we're going, I'm not going to make a call. I'm going to wait and see what happens and see if we get there at some point.

But we hit Wednesday. When we hit Wednesday, I'm going to make that call. I'm going to make that call. Man, listen, bro. I need you to do me a solid. I'd never ask you for nothing. But just get us to a million sub

because I need to understand what the fuss is about Unc's Cognac. So I want to be able to taste alcohol for the first time ever in my life. Yes, people in the chat, I've never had alcohol before. So that will be my first time. So I'm hoping we hit a million so I can give my own honest take in Keith Lee fashion. In Keith Lee fashion on what that Cognac tastes like, or alcohol in general. All right.

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Jordan will be dropping a step by step tutorial video tomorrow. Lord have mercy. I don't know. Man, I don't know how this is going to turn out. But tomorrow, Jordan will be dropping a step-by-step tutorial video. Lord help us.

Ain't no telling. He might be voting for the presidency. Ain't no telling what Jordan will have you to do. he might be voting for the presidency. And that is still myself eight months away. Ain't no telling what you're going to do. Ocho, the Chiefs are the underdog for the third straight game. They are now a two-point underdogs

according to DraftKings Sportsbook. Ocho, are Mahomes and Andy Reid being disrespected? Why do they continue to do this? Why do they continuously poke the bear? Why do they continuously poke the bear? Why do they continuously poke the bear? I'm not really sure how they come up with the scenarios on why they're the underdogs. Is it the fact that there are so many pro bowlers,

so many great players offensively, I mean, and defensively for the 49ers, based on what the Chiefs have been able to do in the postseason. Why? I think this is what, maybe the second or third game they've been underdogs? They've been underdogs the entire play, with the exception of the first game. They weren't underdogs against Miami, but they were underdogs against Buffalo.

Buffalo. Buffalo, Baltimore. Baltimore. And now the 49ers. I'm not sure if someone has something against Andy Reid. I'm not sure if somebody has something against Patrick Mahomes and just the Chiefs in general. I understand they played bad during the middle of the season, you know, from an offensive standpoint, a statistical standpoint, as far as the receivers go. They led the NFL in drops as a core themselves.

Offensive line leading penalties. Yeah, that that as well. But to say that they are underdogs in betting against Patrick Mahomes is asinine. And I think it's an angle that might have something to do with gambling and having people put more money on the 49ers to win, as opposed to people really believing, whoever came with this scenario, that they're the underdogs. I think that might be the angle they're going to get people to lose money betting with the 49ers. Well, what happens is, Ojo, you notice is that they set the line. If I'm not mistaken, the original line was minus one. Right. And so in order for it to move to minus two, that means a lot of bets came in on the Chiefs because we got to open the line up. And because we want people to bet on the 49ers also. So that's seemingly why they opened the line up.

Okay. All right. That gives me a better understanding because logically, a two-time Super Bowl champ, there's no way I'm betting against that. As good as Brock Purdy played last week, as good as that offense looked, you know, coming back from the deficit they were able to come back from. But I still just... So, what you were explaining to me like that, I knew it had to do something with numbers and money.

You know, because I don't understand that. I don't understand that part. Go back. What was the original line? Because I see someone say one and a half, two and a half. It's one and a half. The original line was one and a half. So it's moved to half a point. So that means a lot of people

have been laying money on the Chiefs. Okay, that makes sense. And that's one thing. A lot of people's betting money on the 49ers they just dropped it. Because they don't really want to get too heavy one-sided either way.

Right, right, right. So basically what they're doing is they're lying to the people like some damn politicians. Well, what happened? They started... Just to sway where the money needs to go. Yeah, because what happened,

it started at one and a half. Now it's at two. That means a lot of money for it to move. A lot of money has been coming in on Kansas City. So we'll see how it plays out because at the end of the day, Ocho, this is a neutral site game.

It's not like they're playing in the 49ers building. It's not like they're playing in Arrowhead obviously. This is as legit a neutral site game as you're going to get. I think both fan bases will be in full effect.

It's going to be hard to tell who comes both teams wear red. I have a problem. I got a question. I got to stop you right there. When you say both teams fans will be in full effect, have you seen the ticket prices for the Super Bowl? When I think about it, I think the hard-earned blue-collar fans of these teams,

the people that show up to every home game, the eight games that they do have throughout the season. It's not for them. It's not for them. They are priced out. They are priced out. I think it's unfair. Obviously, we understand what the end goal is and the bottom line goal is for the NFL, especially an event of this magnitude.

It's about money. That's always been the end goal. Oh, sure. And this is for the wealthy. This is for the NFL, especially an event of this magnitude. It's about money. That's always been the end goal. This is for the wealthy. This is for the rich to come together and have some fun and enjoy the last game of the season. It's not for the true, authentic fans that work hard in this

goddamn economy to support their team eight weeks out of the season at home. They're priced out. They're priced out based on the prices I saw. I got it and ain't no damn way in hell I'm paying $7,000, $8,000 for a goddamn ticket. What average ticket price

now is $12,000. Because here's the thing, what the NFL saw, I remember when we went to the Pro Bowl, if I'm not the Pro Bowl, the Super Bowl, I think the highest ticket was $1,000. But if you think the highest ticket was $1,000. But if you turn around, yes, $1,000. But if you

scalp the tickets, people was willing to pay you $7,000 to $8,000. So the NFL said, hold on, y'all willing to pay $7,000 to $8,000? We'll just go ahead and put the ticket at $7,000 to $8,000 since you want to pay that. But what has happened is that you take all the advertisers

and sponsors. That's where the tickets go. Ocho, you mean to tell me for a billion dollars, for two billion dollars, I can't get no tickets? Right, right, right, right. Come on now, Ocho.

That's crazy. Listen, Super Bowl is a corporate event. Yes. Super Bowl is a corporate event and there needs to be some type of structure or something done for the hardcore fans.

The fans that put on the costumes, the fans that paint their faces, the fans that have been at Arrowhead week in and week out when they played home and the fans that have been at goddamn Levi's Stadium week in and week out.

They are priced out because in this goddamn economy, nobody can afford a goddamn ticket for $12,000. And then you got some people that are going to get scammed. They're going to be sold

fake tickets. No, they have to find some happy medium for the people that are part of the median households that have been going to games year in and year out.

And all of a sudden, their team makes it to the biggest game of them all, now you're going to have people digging in their life savings. You're going to have people digging in their goddamn life savings. Watch it on TV. I mean, come on. The one thing that we're going to be

on this podcast is honest. When you got tickets starting out at six thousand what average fan is going to be able to pay six thousand dollars okay that's for the ticket where the hotels you got a three night minimum

three nights right so that so even if you come in say oh well I just want I'm just gonna come in for the game what you gonna sleep in your car that's that that's that's something that's something that that would be a choice of mine, you going to sleep in your car? That's something that would be a choice of mine. Are you going to eat? Are you going to eat? They have fast

food. They have fast food in Vegas. What do you think the price of this is? You think you can get a normal price as a normal price that you would normally be if you was in Vegas? Listen, Vegas got Bahama Breeze if you want to go fancy. Now, that's dinner. You want to bring it down a notch?

Vegas has In-N-Out. Vegas has Burger King. Vegas has McDonald's. They have El Pollo Loco. You don't have to go fancy. We talk about based on if you're on a structured income- On a budget. Because you paid, yeah, on a budget, and you paid a lot. Let's say you took some of your life savings. You want to go to Super Bowl. Sleep in your car. Eat at what I consider some of the lower tier restaurants. I consider them high tier. Other people consider them low tier.

I mean, that's what I would do. I don't have no problem sleeping in my car. I got to use the bathroom. I go to a 24-hour 7-Eleven, 24-hour IHOP. I ain't let you drop no sticky notes in my bathroom if you ain't buying no potato chips or no gas or no soda no

they don't have a choice that's a private entity you just can't go use the bathroom where you at you think you have a park or recreation center buy a stick of gum you got to buy something when have you ever known people at home win an event Grammys, Emmys, Oscars,

some type of event that's coming over, you see what happened when the gas prices, what they do with the gas prices. They jacked it up. Okay, then. So they got an event coming to Vegas. Tell me what you think they're going to do with food prices. They're going to hack it up a little bit.

A little bit. They can only do it so much. What you mean so much? Listen, you still want to attract not only business, but you still want to be able to make money. If you price yourself out, listen, nobody will go to your establishment.

They're already coming, though, Joe. Nobody will go to your establishment. They're already coming. They're already coming. We already know we're going to get an influx of a million, two million people. Right.

So, listen, there's an influx of one million, two million people. You think those people won't find somewhere else to eat if your prices are outrageous and ridiculous? What's the likelihood of the people that's coming and they got hotel rooms with a three night minimum? What you say the thing is they're going to stop by your establishment anyway? That's a good one. Hey, that's a good one. I mean, they got cabanas going for 100,000 to see 12 people.

100,000. A cabana where? At the clubs. At the clubs. 100,000. Quarter of a meal. And you wonder why I've never partied in life. Because it makes no sense.

What are you getting for 100,000 that you can't get at home? Turning your radio real goddamn loud. Invite all your friends over. Boom. Same concept. Same energy. Same concept, same energy, same vibe, but you paying $100,000 or $250,000 or whatever it may

be to go to do what? Just to show, look, I got money. Okay, that's cool. That's fine. It ain't how much you make, it's how much you keep. Now you talking like me. I like where you're going. Now we have something else to address based on that comment right there. Wait, wait, wait.

I'm not talking about Ochoa. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, look, when you and Ochoa, like I said, I believe that what the NFL saw is that, and what you see anytime, if somebody's willing to pay for it, if they're willing to pay, y'all scalping the NFL. Hold on. We sold all these tickets. And the players

can only get 15 tickets. You get 13 tickets, you get two free. Now, it used to be it was at the team discretion. Teams could give you 20, 30 tickets, whatever the case may be. But there was a discrepancy many years ago.

One team gave a team 30 tickets and the other team gave, so the NFL said, you know what we're going to do? We're going to take it over. You're going to be able to give them two free comp tickets just like you get at home and they can buy 13. And guess what? Guess what sometimes players did with

them 13 tickets? Oh, you sold them. Well, I don't know. You probably have your mom, your close, close mom, you know, dad. If you got a significant other or wife, obviously you got kids. But listen,

you got to play because they eating. You know how players think now. We ain't worried. We ain't caring. My family don't care. If I ain't playing no goddamn Super Bowl, I don't care nothing about going. Shit, we finna make this money.

Ocho, you got it. The families came in on Thursday. So Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night. That's four nights.

Now, I got a mom. I got a sister. I got a girlfriend. I got kids. Right. That's four rooms. And bare minimum,

that's bare minimum four rooms. Possibly a fifth. And who you think feeding them who you think entertaining them who you think flew now I could have flew I could have flew now my family this was pre 9-11

so this was pre the tickets was high as giraffe but so Ocho I gotta bring my mom from Chicago. I got to bring my sister. And at that time, my cousin, Mud, she flew with her. I got to bring them from Georgia to San Diego. My kids, okay, the kids, my sister picked up the kids, brought them from Georgia.

And now my girlfriend was on the charter. And so, okay, cool, charter. I was like, I could have got my, but what sense does it make to fly my family from Georgia, Chicago to Denver to get on the charter and then now get on the charter. Now they got to fly back from San Diego

to Denver or from Miami because, you know, we flew, we played in Miami or when I was in Baltimore, we flew to Tampa. So I just like, okay. I mean, I think I spent like 15 grand just in flights. Well, you're better than me

because my family would have understood. No, no, no, no. Super Bowl, mom, my sister. Oh, they got to go to kids. They got to go to that. The Super Bowl? Right, okay. Now, there are a lot of people

that had never seen Shannon Sharp play a football game. Not a Bowl? Right, okay. Now, there are a lot of people that have never seen Shannon Shaw play a football game. Not a preseason game, not a regular season game, not a playoff game. You mean in person, you mean? In person. Okay, okay.

But they want to go to the Super Bowl. Right. Shaw, please. That's what I said. That's all you had to tell us. Shaw, please. Now, my homeboy, I had one homeboy,

Bucket, that it was in town. Bucket. I done heard Bucket's name so goddamn much. I feel like I know him. That's my dog, him and Burns.

But Burns was on the team. They gonna be in Vegas? Nah, hell nah. Hell nah. Nah. And so, you know, I had a ticket. I had a ticket

for one of my homeboys, but something came up. That's something we'll discuss at a later date and time. He wasn't able to attend. And so I had two tickets. I said, Bucket, I got a ticket for you and my other homeboy. Now, I ain't got nothing for your wife. You had to let him know.

You had to let him know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You ain't getting phone tickets. You get, you, hey, you and my other homeboy. Well, my other homeboy wasn't able to come. Something came up. He hit me up. He said, man, such and such not going to be able to come. Can I use the other ticket for

my wife? I said, hell yeah. Okay, okay. Long as it was free. Long as it was free. Anytime it was close. Right. Jacksonville, he would come to Jacksonville. He would drive close by. He ain't got a whole lot. At the time, he was a police officer. Then he later worked for would drive close by he ain't got a whole lot of that, at the time he was a police officer then he later worked for ATF

so he ain't like he making a whole ton of money to be able to put himself up and come so I always took care of it but in a situation like that Ocho you know, like I said, the Super Bowl that's a special occasion, my mom come to everyone, and at the time my step pops

pops came with my mom. So I got to fly him. But I'm feeding everybody every day. I'm playing for entertainment every day. And the hotel room and the flight. So like I said, I probably spent like 30 grand for the entirety of the trip. And we won all of them. So everybody had a really good time.

And you know what's funny? I'm sitting here talking, I'm not even realizing, when I was with the Patriots, we made the Super Bowl. I'm not even realizing. And obviously, you know what? Lil CJ was there. My daughter was there. Your mom? Grandma? No, grandma. She wasn't able to travel.

Yeah, she wasn't able to travel at that point. But your mom? No, mom. Me and mom, we weren wasn't able to travel at that point But your mom? Nope mom you know me and mom We weren't seeing eye to eye during that time You know her and I have a Whoa listen there's a reason we call it Hurricane Paula you know That's the reason we call it that

So we weren't seeing eye to eye during that time And you know It wasn't much How many of your kids was there? Two, three? Maybe three. No, two. I think it was CJ and G.

But you had to have somebody take care of them because, hell, you couldn't. Yeah, because I had who I was seeing. You got to practice. You got to practice. Yeah, during that time. Your girlfriend at the time. Yeah, so I didn't spend nothing close to what you did

nothing nothing close and obviously you have to think also so you probably had one hotel room probably probably that was it and then you have to also think

like why is everybody flying and you understand I wasn't the same Chad that we used to see in St. Louis right but it ain't like I'm for to come out here

and be maybe have an opportunity to win goddamn MVP at this damn Super Bowl like so let's slow down a little bit we're talking about oh I'm for the come out here and be got there. Maybe have an opportunity to win goddamn MVP at his damn super. Like, so let, let's slow down a little bit. We'll talk about, Oh,

I'm coming to watch you play. Well, shit, I ain't do nothing doing the regular season. I'm not sure what you're expecting this one goddamn game. So it kind of didn't make sense. You know, when you're in full effect and I look at it in hindsight.

So, yeah, I mean, it was cool, but I ain't spent nothing like that. Yeah. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold,

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And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask a journey. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story,

listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And so the thing was, Ocho, I ended up like, for the flight, because I didn't have like, I only used one seat on the plane. So I had a friend. Her name was Sharon, and she did everything for me. She cleaned the house.

She did all the shopping. She did all the washing, and rest her soul. That was my dog. Sharon, I could call. She was like my aunt. And she had, her face was her credentials. She could go anywhere in the stadium, and they had to show no ID. They let her in the stadium. They knew she was good. She, she,

she good her and her daughter. I got them on the plane. I got them. I got them tickets. So, but other than that, and then, um, for the most part, I ended up giving my seats away. Cause I, Hey hey bro you need hey i got you know you got x amount of seats hey go ahead bro i ain't i ain't got nobody i ain't flying my family my family flying straight to the game i ain't flying my family out here to put them on some plane because when they leave san diego i already know my sister and my mom gonna want to go straight home they're not gonna want to go to denver and they're not gonna have to no so i flew

them straight home but it was a great experience We won all three games that made it even sweeter. Um, you know, uh, the kids had to go, you know, they, their mom, the kids was down for a little while. Cause you know, we had a party, obviously you win the game, you have a party afterwards, right? You know, you have a little party. Then obviously, obviously, you know, my mom took the kids upstairs, me and my sister stayed down a little while. Then me and, uh, you know, Hey, you know, you have a little party. Then obviously, you know, my mom took the kids upstairs. Me and my sister stayed down a little while. Then me and, you know, I had to shake. Hey, it's Super Bowl.

I won. We got to shake the covers. Vote dog. Wait, wait. Wait, who wait? Wait, wait, wait, wait, nah. Let's rewind a little bit. I need better context on who you shaking the covers with during this time.

Is there somebody special in your life? I had a girlfriend at the time. Yeah. You had a girl? Yeah. Yeah. Because she would ask me. Now, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Stay with me now girlfriend one time. You had a girl? Yeah. Yeah. Because she would ask me. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait.

Stay with me now. You won. You got three Super Bowl rings. I got three Super Bowl rings. So did you have a different girlfriend for each Super Bowl? Well, the second Super Bowl, I didn't have a girl. I didn't have anybody. But you had somebody come in, though.

No, no, no. I didn't. No, no, I didn't. No. Okay. Okay. No, I didn't. So the first Super no okay okay no i didn't so the first and the last football i had a girlfriend and in the first super bowl my girlfriend at the time

and she was amazing uh okay and and i got high respect we're still cool today because she was up front with me and say shannon i want to move on i want to go see somebody else oh hell no she ain't tried my dog like that. Yeah. She had the audacity. What you mean? Man, what you mean? What I mean? How many times have you told a girl you want to move on? Never.

Everybody left me. Everybody left me. That's beside the point. Women need to understand. Shannon Shaw. I'm not a woman, but even I can see the vision of where you're going. Even I can see the vision of where you're going.

I can see the vision of where you was heading. You don't want to leave that because look what you got now. I'm hell to deal with. I'm not going to sit here and tell somebody, yeah, I mean, everything that looks good and you see how diligent I am and how hardworking I am, but'm not easy to get along with i'm not easy to live with um i wouldn't tell nobody that lie listen even even if you're not easy to deal with right everybody come with baggage you know it's all about finding that one person based on the life you want to live

the willingness to unpack that baggage. At the time I had... You my dog. I'm just saying, if I was a woman, there's some shit that I don't like about you, but I'm going to have to just deal with it. No, no, no. You still got baggage, Ocho.

I came with more baggage than a Delta airline. You couldn't be with all that baggage I had. That's all right, because there's a woman out there that is willing to unpack because you a good nigga. You couldn't be able to hold that baggage. That's all right. That's all right. That's all right because there's a woman out there that is willing to unpack because you a good nigga. Oh, shit. My bad. My bad.

But you're a good dude. I am? You're a good dude. Listen, you mean well. I am. You mean well because when somebody needs you, based on the stories,

you're going to always be there. Oh, for sure. If you get first of all, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Hold on. That's not everybody. You need to be cool. You need to be cool with me. That's what I'm talking sure. If you get first of all, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not everybody. You need to be cool. You need to be cool with me.

That's what I'm talking about. But you got to, we talk about people you are intimate with. Yeah. If you cool with me, we gonna always be cool. Cause my number one thing is protect the brain. I said, because if the brain goes away, Shannon's going to go away and I can't do what you asked me to do for you. So that's number one.

You've got to protect the brand. And so if you cool with me, and like I said, when them kids came, my mom and them came, they came on a Thursday. My mom, my sister came over. She brought the kids. They brought the kids. Oh, we want to, because that was the last time I was going to see the kids until after the

game. They weren't going to be running. They weren't going to be, I wasn't going to be coming over to the hotel and hanging out and doing all that stuff and splashing in the pool. The festivities and all that other stuff, that's for families.

I came down, my event was going to happen at 6.30 on Sunday night. And everybody understood that. And her job, my girlfriend's job, was to make it as easy as possible on my mom and my sister. So when the kids wanted to go to SeaWorld, my girlfriend's job, was to make it as easy as possible on my mom and my sister. So when the kids wanted to go to SeaWorld, to see Shamu, gone.

San Diego do, gone. The zoo, she got them and gone. No hesitation. My mom and them doing whatever they want to do. Hey, you got the kids. Right. And so when it came time for us to go our separate ways, she came to me like a woman. I'm good with that or better if I move on. And I think they don't understand. It's very difficult to find someone like yourself that you can always count on. Now,

there might be some things that you don't like that we can work through and get by, but always having someone you can count on 24-7 come hell or high water is very difficult to find. Someone that's loyal, a good person. There's going to be some issues. We all have our issues. I'm telling you, man, it's dangerous out there and it's real thin. It's real thin. I just think the mindset of women at times is like, you know what? I can find

this again because look, I'm pretty. Look at me, I got a shape. Look at me, I got ass. I've done that, Ocho. It's quantity, but quality of what you're looking for Is very difficult to find Ocho Sometimes women have to learn the hard way

Because they're hard headed Because they think based on aesthetics And the visual I'll be able to find it again But what comes with that is the games That women have to deal with Women Ocho

You're a straight shooter Yeah Ocho It's good to have a straight shooter, boy. You're like a Magnum 357. Do you know how many women I've looked over because I saw something more aesthetically pleasing and I left the best

woman that I had just because I saw something more aesthetically pleasing. You can't do that, Unc. So that's why I don't get upset when a woman comes to me And tell me she wants to go on I like the way you put that Not that gift

Okay, I feel a little better now Because you done made the same mistake too You know what? I feel a little better Ocho, I feel a little better I'm just honestly speaking You've made that mistake Leaving a good woman

For something that looks Better aesthetically and pleading to the eye? Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. Okay.

Okay. And so I told my girlfriend. I said, I'm not happy. I said, I'm miserable in my own home. I said, I have a headache all the time. Always do argue.

I said, I want to be with somebody else and I'm going to go find them. It ain't out there. I'm telling you, man. Well, you know, through experience, I ain't got to tell you nothing.

Yeah. I wasn't going to, I was going to sit here and preach to you. Just, you know, I know it's Sunday, but I don't already know. Oh boy.

Come on now. Come on now. And so, like I said, I, I, I've made the mistake, Ocho. And I'm not perfect. And I don't sit here and proclaim to be perfect.

And I don't say, you know, oh, no, no, no, no. Shannon didn't leave everybody. Women have left Shannon Sharpen. That's okay. That is perfectly okay. Right. Because they made me better and they made me look internal at some of the blow. And I fixed some of them. Right. Well, we got some more to work on.

I fixed some of them. But like the most dilapidated of buildings, I'm still under repair. And I'm OK with that. Hey, that was nice. That was a bar right there. Hey, that was nasty. Hey, I i've been watching listen i've been watching battle rap man i've gotten into battle rap real real real heavy and that was a bar that was a bar that was filthy i like that you know back in my day when i used to write when i used to write love letters on show you know your boy back in the day without the high school you know high school early in college yeah yeah, yeah. Junior high, used to write love letters.

Like college, college, and like late, like late high school, early college. This how I know you're a good dude. You know what it takes for a man to be able to sit down

and to put thought and a sum on paper and use the pen? Mm-hmm. That is that, that's that genuine, that's that notebook type of, I'm really, I'm really feeling you

and I'm going to express my feelings and my thoughts through paper instead of communicating it. Oh, that's nice. Because sometimes I could write down what I couldn't say to the young lady in person. It makes it that much easier because everybody's not equipped to be able to say or communicate some of the things they're feeling and being able to express it verbally. It's very difficult at times, especially if it's someone you just met.

You know, you kind of don't want to open up like that and be a little bit too vulnerable too soon until you understand that the reciprocation is there. Yeah, you know, but you know, I start that thing off, you know, time and opportunity presents itself that I take this time that I tell you just how special you are to me. You know the first time I opened that, Ocho? You know that?

Ocho, you boy, I told you. I was here when I was away, Ocho. Come on, man. Hey, bro, I like that. I like that. You know what? I'm going to put that shit in my vows. I'm going to put that in my vows. That's how I'm going to start my vows.

That's my win. Yes, sir. I like that. Bad Ocho, you boy. Back in the day, Ocho, man, you know. Hey, you and that boy. That's why I still came. I can't figure out why they left, man.

I still came. I guarantee. Huh? Listen, I guarantee this. What? I guarantee this. It's a no still can't figure out why they left now. I guarantee this. I guarantee this. But it's not really disrespect. Those in your past, I say, I bet if they look in the rearview mirror, they'll put that motherfucking reverse. I bet that. I bet if those that left you, if they look in the rearview mirror, I guarantee you they'd put that motherfucking car in reverse right now. Well, you know what, Ocho? I have an ex today. And we hadn't been together in 25, 30 years.

Yeah. And I was just straight up with her. And, you know, from time to time, she would hit me up. And time to time, I hit her up to check on us, make sure everything's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, how did I start it up? I think i said something about i've known you 35 1987 37 years yes sir you you've been different places i've been different

places i have different different situations you've been married. I said, this is what I know for 100% certainty. For categorically certainty. I said, other men might have had your body, but I've always had your heart. Come on, give me them bars. You sent me a text back saying,

as much as I wanted to hate you and I've tried for so long you'll always have my heart. Well, I got to stand up on this. But she wasn't telling me anything that I didn't already know. I know why so much vitriol I knew why she put so much

vitriol towards me and did the things that she did because she loved me yeah now see remember i said this in the show not too long ago remember i said this in the show not too long ago fellas you're always dealing with somebody you're always dealing with a woman she you might have her physically but there's a guy from her past there's a guy from her past that will always have access i have have her mentally up here no matter, no matter how happy she is. Remember I told you that?

Yeah. Remember I told you that? Yes. And you just explained the situation right there. Oh, yeah. Rail. Yeah, I'm going to wake her ass up because I didn't know who it is. Everybody got one.

Everybody got one. Especially if you're in the chat, women, if you're listening and you just heard the explanation that Unc just told, tell me you're not lying. There's always somebody. Even if they don't reach out to you, there's always somebody. I mean, look,

I remember the first time a woman actually took me on vacation. It was her. I said, I said, I said, she took you? Yes.

Unc, you let that go? St. The Virgin Islands, St. Thomas. I said, baby, I ain't got, I said, baby, I ain't got no money. She said, I got this. Hotel, food, I ain't pay for nothing. That's the one, man. All I was was a plumber for the whole weekend. Hey. Yeah, you... You're a young clog,

young clog, dog. That's all I was that week. You playing $45 an hour. Yeah. That's all you playing for plumbing service. On the phone. That's the one. You know what I'm saying?

I hadn't been... I hadn't been out of the country. I mean, I don't get to say Thomas is theoretically inside of the continental. But anyway, I hadn't been nowhere Ocho. Yeah.

She put it on me, Ocho. Hey, it ain't too many like that now. Hold on. Let me tip so you can see my head now. Yeah. Ain't too many like that that's going to pay for you.

Yeah, man. That really got you because, you know, women, they looking for provider. We know what that means. We know what that's going to pay for you that really got you because you know women they looking for provider we know what that means we know what that's called for huh

yeah but like I said look I've been in situations and and seemingly what I had wasn't enough

and and I think the thing is now is being able to accept enough right right so at least appreciating what you got what I have And I think the thing is now is being able to accept enough. Right. Right. So at least appreciating what you got. I have. But back. But, you know, Ocho, you back then. I'm 19, 20, 22. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, please.

Listen, when you're young, this is one of the things that that that is going to get the younger generation as well. It's always thinking that I can always get better and I could always attain better. And you know what? All that gold or all that glitters ain't gold. You're absolutely right, Joe. Because the higher up you go, and women love to say this as well. Women love to say, oh, I'm going to get a man with a bigger bag. Oh, I'm going to get a man that's richer than you. I'm going to get somebody that looks better than you. But always understand what comes with that. There's always pros and cons to everything as you continue to want to climb the ladder and whatever it is that you do or whatever it is you're trying to

attain there's always a con in the bad side to it yes outside of the pleasing aesthetics that we're used to seeing yeah and the question is we don't we we we stuck in the now we don't think long term with nothing yeah we don't think long term yeah i. I mean, like I said, Ochoa, I look back and I say, man, what was I? I mean, I have my moments because I spent a lot of time alone, just me and the dogs, and I'm loading my thoughts and I go back and I pan over the course

of 35, 40 years of my life and saying that was, there have been like, honestly, I can honestly say there have been three three that i should that that no question should have been mr mr sharp no question we all got the okay well you so if you were someone that asked you the question yeah do you have somebody in your life you know what, she was the one that got away.

So you got three adults. Yeah. You got three of them. Okay. Okay. And then, you know, that's dope that you could be honest about that too. Oh, for sure. That's real dope.

Because a lot of people will be like, ah, nah, I don't need nobody from my past. They are ex for a reason. But there are some good people that we have lost. That we've left behind. Yeah. Due to circumstance, whether it be pride, whether it be are some good people that we have lost. That we've left behind. Yeah, due to circumstance, whether it be pride, whether it be ego, or feeling that we could find better than that. And most of the time,

we're not successful in doing so. Yeah. And actually, one of them was the one that played that Michelle Indigo cello song. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But I remember she told me this early in our relationship. And she said, Shannon,

and I remember her and I was having a conversation. She said, Shannon, you're the worst thing that's ever happened to me. And I'm looking, I'm like, what the hell? She said, Shannon, I'm never going to meet a man like you. I'm not going to meet somebody as disciplined, as hardworking, as funny, as driven, as

motivated. She said, I'm not going to meet that. She said, I know that. She says, I know you're a once in a lifetime man. But she says, I also know you're not ready for what I'm ready for.

She says, I'm going to take ready for what I'm ready for. She says, I'm going to take it for what it's worth. I'm going to have as much fun. But she says, I know it's going to stop. She said, because you're not ready for what I'm ready for.

Now see, you know what? When you talk like that and based on what you're saying, I know this is the older woman. This is a seasoned woman. No. Because if this was someone young thinking like that, was that type of maturity? Yes.

Yes. Ocho. Now, you talk about, look here. Talking like that? Ocho. She was, I mean. Everything you just said sounds like a seasoned vet that don't want to play no more games that's done with the games understanding you know

i'm not sticking around for him to change where i was in my life yeah and what i had going on yeah it was just i wasn't ready for what she could offer. And she was, when I say she, look, I'm talking about, there's only been a half, I've had women that I can have conversation with and we laugh and we talk. And there's one right now that's really special. And I've really never had the chemistry with her, with someone else like I've had with her. But she's in a different situation.

She's in her situation and I'm happy for, and I wish them the best of luck. But this situation that I'm talking about, Ocho. Right, right, right. I'm talking about laughing and talking and just carrying on.

I mean, get on the phone and we could talk hours and all we do is talk about, and it's nothing, you know, we cracking jokes. We making fun. We go to talk about and it's nothing, you know, we cracking jokes, we making fun. We go to a restaurant and I asked her, we go in and it's like

okay, and I was like excuse me, will you guys let me bring my horse in? And I point to her and she just busts out laughing. And so we start to order and she was like I noticed you don't have any oats and apples on the menu.

And she pointed and they look at her like, yeah, you know, I got my horse sitting over here and he likes oats and apples. That kind of dynamic is fun. Yes. That kind of dynamic is fun. She sent me a text

and said, Kentucky Derby said that your entry was denied and you're not going to be able to run this year. You know, stuff like that, Ocho, so you can do stuff like that. Ocho, I wasn't ready, Ocho. I wasn't. Based on what you're telling me, listen, it sounds like

the perfect story, but I guarantee you during this time, you were still playing. Oh, yeah. And I had just started yeah to get into my own now all of a sudden no joe i'm a this was i'm a two-time three-time first team all pro i've gone to like three consecutive pro bowls thousand yard seasons now i'm john lw's go-to guy i'm uh, now I'm really feeling good about myself. Right. I know what you, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. So, you know, Hey, if she think I look good, I'm sure somebody

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What's the name on the back of this? Just for the people in the chat get a better understanding. Uncultured swines. That's Neymar. That's Neymar Jr. The great Brazilian. Yeah. Yeah.

This is the club Santos where he played at in brazil before he made it to i like to call the big leagues this guy here it's about just like beetlejuice uh ocho we got some news and that's gonna probably take over and i'm sure patrick mahomes gonna be asked about it patrick mahomes senior was arrested and charged with his third DWI, third or more DWI. Mahomes Sr. was arrested on DWI charges multiple times over the last 12 years, 2012, 2018, 2019, and a recent arrest over the weekend. Mahomes was arrested for his second driving while intoxicated charge in 2018, served 40 days sentence, and he served those over the weekend. The news come a week before his son takes the field in Superbowl 58.

How do you expect young Patrick to handle this distraction? I mean, this, this is, this is, this is, this is not a distraction. It's not a distraction. It's something that he's, he dealt with before. His father has had two other issues and it hasn't affected his play on the field. And when it comes to... Next to this right before the Super Bowl. Now they're going to ask him. You know media day. Oh yeah, but he ain't

paying that no mind. You know he ain't paying that no mind. Even if they do ask him, we talk about a two-time Super Bowl champ. One that will never be rattled. That's been in the highest of situations. He'll be fine. he'll be fine. He'll be fine. Again, it's unfortunate, especially for your father to not learn from the past two times.

Yeah, that's what's going to make. And as a father, I would think you would, at this point, you want to get an Uber. You want to get an Uber. If you're inebriated, if you're drinking, if you're consuming alcohol, if you're out somewhere, don't even drive yourself. Have a driver. Obviously, you have a son that we already know that is completely well off. Talk to your son. Pat, have a talk with dad. Listen, pops, if you want to go out, if you want to have fun, let me get a car service for you. Let me get a driver for you. That's really nothing. To make sure issues of this extent don't happen again.

I think that's something that they should do going forward so they don't have to deal with this again, because obviously it's sustained on the family. And it's not going to affect Pat on the field, but off the field, having to deal with the media, having to deal with the scrutiny, having to deal with everyone in their personal family business is a bad look. Anytime someone in the family becomes more prominent, high profile, everybody has to move differently. Patrick Mahomes Sr., your son is Patrick Mahomes Jr. You can't move the same way you once could. You just can't.

I understood that my brother now was Sterling Sharpe and he's the seventh pick in the NFL draft of the Green Bay Packers. All that trifling stuff that I wanted to do or that I was doing before, I couldn't do it anymore. Because they're going to say the younger brother of all

Packer receivers, Sterling Sharp, Shannon Sharp, was arrested. Or, come on, Patrick Mahomes Sr.? Yeah, yeah. I mean, clearly he has an issue. I mean, there's no other way around it. And hopefully he gets that resolved and not put himself because he lucky. Because remember, Andy Reid's son had a DWI three days before the Super Bowl 55,

crashing into a broken down car on the roadside. And the crash left a five-year-old girl in a coma for 10 days and she was permanently disabled. Oh, my goodness. And so, like I said, a lot of times people think, well, oh, it was just a D, nobody was hurt.

Right. But how many times have we heard situations where people was hurt? Henry Ruggs, alcohol, driving at a high rate of speed, slams into a car doing over 120 miles an hour. She's dead. His NFL career. He's in jail. Yeah. Leonard Little, Leonard Little, involuntary manslaughter. Rams. Rams. Leonard Little. Yes. From Florida. From Florida? Yes. The Hick of a Homicide.

The Dante Stallworth. I forgot. I don't even remember these situations. That's crazy. I just hate that he put himself in that situation. He put himself in that situation. Like you said, O situation. And like you said, Ocho, here's the thing, Ocho. And his dad was a professional athlete.

The one thing about athletes is that we don't think it's going to happen to us. We're invincible. Well, it's already happened twice. So you can't be thinking like that. It's already happened twice. Yes. You think you're invincible

based on the situation and the circumstance that you're in now. Right. My sons, Pat, my homes, wherever I am. If someone does stop me, you know what? Yes. You think you're invincible based on the situation and the circumstance that you're in now. Right. My son's Pat Mahomes. Wherever I am, if someone does stop me, you know what?

It'll be a slap on the wrist. Listen here, Mr. Mahomes, senior, you can't be out here driving like that. Okay, they let you go. You can get away with a lot of things based on who your son is right now. But you run into that one officer.

Right. You run into that one officer who wants that credit, who wants to be, you know, the talk of the town in the department. But you're the one that,

they looking for that. Right. But again, there's a problem that he might have, but there's a solution to it. Yeah. All Pat has to do is

get sloppy drunk. Hey, hey, yo son, look here, if my dad, my dad was a, was an alcoholic.

But had he been alive, to see me and my brother play, he could, I'd have tried to get him help. But if he couldn't, hey, hey dad, there's a car, you don't drive. You got a car, but don't you drive. Because I'm a spitting image of my dad. I look just, I look just like my dad. but and i'm gonna have somebody with him now i'm gonna fire your ass if you let

my daddy get behind the wheel real yeah yeah your responsibility is to make sure he gets to and from you driving but listen the funny thing is i have a little experience when it comes to having a parent that that that love that likes to drink, that loves a drink. Obviously, on my end, you know, it wasn't she didn't like to drink and drive at the same time, but she would drink and it would affect our relationship. So, you know, you asked me earlier, you know, was your mom at the Super Bowl? Well, hell, it was hard to deal with her and be around her more than goddamn two or three goddamn hours because of her consumption of alcohol. And for those that don't know, we did, matter of fact, just to give a small glimpse of, you never met my mama. I think the world got a chance to see who she was and see what I had to

deal with. My mama and I, she was an alcoholic. She drunk a lot, drunk a lot, to the point where my grandma raised me for that specific reason. Obviously, I can tell y'all because we all family, the drug use, the alcohol and abuse in it. So my grandma was like, listen, you're leaving this little boy here with me and you can go ahead. And my mom moved off to L.A. That's how I ended up at Santa Monica. Right. OK, back to the story. So. Dealing with her is she would always consume alcohol. And this might be one of the reasons why I've never drank. She would always consume alcohol and then she would become

someone I didn't even know. She would become someone I didn't even know. And I couldn't quite understand why are you always angry? You can't be angry at me because I didn't do anything wrong. But then my grandma always happened to explain to me, baby, this is what happens when she drinks, boom, along with other things. So I kind of empathize in a sense with Pat because I was still able to play regardless of what was going on in my personal life and dealing with her. Right. It's like it's crazy. And one of the reasons she got the name Hurricane Paula, because when she does consume alcohol, she becomes just that.

It's a hurricane. Right. It's a hurricane. Right. It's a hurricane. And we had a funny thing with friends of mine throughout the years. You're really not a friend of mine or you ain't been around long enough if you haven't been cursed out by my mama. If you ain't been cursed out by mama,

you aren't really a friend of mine because you ain't been around long enough. My kids got it. I got it. Anybody I dated got it. My coaches got it anybody i dated got it my coaches got it my friends got it everybody my teachers got it everybody and it was hard to even have her around important events because i didn't know she was gonna show up inebriated or not well hey boy listen um my mom and i wanted to help my mama the same way i'm sure pat wants to help his dad.

So I say, you know what? The opportunity presented itself where not only we can make a little money, I can get you some change, but we're going to go on a show with some doctors. We did marriage bootcamp. And Chad, if you haven't seen marriage bootcamp family edition between me and my mom, watch that when you get some time and you'll understand who she really was. Because most of the time you have family members go on camera and they put on and be someone that they're not. They put on their representative because the world is watching. Me and my mom went on that show. The whole point was to try to mend our relationship and find a way to make things work and figure out what's wrong with her past.

They offered places she can go. They offered rehab. Every morning she woke up, what's the first thing past. They offered places she can go. They offered rehab. Every morning she woke up, what's the first thing you think she went and got? Something to drink. Something to drink. And they purposely allowed her to drink and drink and drink. And man, that woman stole the show. That woman stole the show. And obviously, I let people that want to go back and watch it and see who Hurricane Paula was, cussed everybody out on the show. Cussed out the producers.

Cussed out the castmates. And we didn't end up finishing the show because she cussed everybody out. She cussed everybody out and left the show before it ended. And from that point on with me trying to help, there was really nothing I could do because she wasn't even trying to help herself. And my mama passed. She just passed in 2021. What'd you think she died from, mom? Probably scoliosis.

Cirrhosis, not scoliosis. Cirrhosis. Alcohol poisoning. Yep. Alcohol poisoning. And so that's just, there's a story with Pat and it kind of resonates with me in a sense, not to the sense of her getting in trouble and arrested, but dealing with someone who likes to consume alcohol.

And there's really no way to control it. Even when you try to get him help, they just they just won't listen. Yeah, I don't understand why people like giving up control like that. I mean, I think I think for us, especially like me, I got to be in control. I don't like, you know, I can only say there's been one time that I kind of lost control, but I was able to regain it. And that was the Lakers situation at that game. But I don't like being out of control, Locho.

Right. You think you was? I was like, yeah, I'm glad. You were drinking? No, I wasn't drinking. Hell no. Oh, so you were good. Yeah, I was good. Yeah. Okay. No, I wasn't. No, no, wouldn't drink hell no oh so you were good yeah i was good yeah okay no i wouldn't no no no no that's that's one of the reasons you know i i think because my father

was an alcoholic also and he ended up he ended up having both jawbones removed ended up having a um he ended up dying at when i was 13 years of age and uh i saw him once to actually know who i was looking at i saw him when i was in i I think, the kindergarten. First grade. That's how I've been. First grade. And the next time I saw him, he didn't know I was looking at him. His face was like a looking glass. I was just looking down and staring at him. And he didn't look nothing like the man that I remember seeing all those years ago. But that's what the drinking had done to him. That's what the surgery of having both of to him that's what the the surgery was

having both of his jawbones removed and why he didn't want to come because he said told my grandma grandma charlie that he didn't want his kids to see him in this kind of condition like that okay okay but what he didn't realize i just wanted to see my father it wasn't the conditions it was the man that i wanted to see and what I would give to have if I could just have him and my grandfather Barney Porter the one that raised me and him just to see

see what me and my brother became just for one day yeah I would love to see years and years but just for one day to see what me and my brother became that would probably be that would top any day uh any day pro bowl hall of fame this for them to see that because i remember my grandfather and my grandmother was happy because

remember i told you oh my grandfather and grandmother didn't sleep in the same bed right my grandfather and my brother slept over here and me and my grandmother was happy. Because remember I told you, Ocho, my grandfather and grandmother didn't sleep in the same bed. Right, right. My grandfather and my brother slept over here and me and my grandmother slept over there. And they was having a conversation. And they thought I was asleep. I wasn't. This had to be about 2 o'clock in the morning. We didn't have a clock in the room, so I couldn't tell you.

But I'm assuming it's probably around 2 o'clock in the morning. And I remember him saying so vividly. He said, Mary, he said, I might be dead and gone. But them boys gonna make something. He said, it's so smart. They so attentive. They don't give us no back talk. They don't talk back.

I'm thinking to myself, man, do you understand the punishment and the wrath that would rain down? And we were afraid to talk back. But he said, he said, he said, that young one, he said, Mary, that boy remember everything. Because we was our dad's, we was our grandfather's notepad.

Because you know back then, ain't nobody had no cell phone. So somebody told you their number, you just had to remember it. My grandfather, somebody would tell my grandfather, oh, hey, Barney, you know, I got a new number or I got a phone because everybody at the time didn't have a phone. Hey, Barney, I got a number. I got a new phone. I got a phone.

Hey, tell it to them boys. So it was me and my brother's job to remember the phone number. And I just remember that and that stuck with me. Here I am, five, six years of age, and he could project into the future 30 years 25 years later that them two boys gonna make something man that made me so that made me so proud to hear him say that as i'm going as i'm playing in high school as i'm playing in

college and i'm playing in the nfl and'm thinking back, my grandfather saw this. And so to have my dad, my actual dad, and my grandfather, if only for one day to see what I became, even if they don't see me play football, but just see the man that I became because I named my son after my dad. But man, Ocho, thato that was i mean my grandparents and my grandparents didn't i remember my grandfather got stopped by the state trooper my grandfather probably driving 120 so uh got said license registration um insurance my grandfather reached in the glove box, handed it to him.

He said, Mr. Porter. He said, yeah. He said, you been drinking? My grandfather said, yeah. About 40 years ago. Boy, that's before your time, right? He said, yeah, it was, Mr. Porter. He said, okay, now I'm going to need you to slow it down. He said, okay. But I think my grandmother He said, yeah, it was, Mr. Porter. He said, OK, now I'm going to need you to slow it down. He said, OK. But I think my grandmother said that's why, you know, they started having kids and they stopped drinking. And I never obviously they drank communion, but we never had alcohol in the house. But just to just to I just would want my grandfather, my dad to see what me and my brother became.

Yeah, that's it. You what that that does that's dope and i always i've never thought about it like that because my mom my mom was around to see to see all of my success uh i would love for her to see how far i've come after falling you know uh off that mountaintop and the climb that i'm making to get back to where i fell from but i would love to see would have been like what our relationship would have been like if she hadn't yeah alcohol yeah i would love this i would love you to be at every event i had i would love to be at games i would love you to be at red carpet stuff i would love you to travel i would love you to be at red carpet stuff. I would love for you to travel. I would love for you to go to Pro Bowl. Listen, the game she did go to, she got into it with people and embarrassed me. Oh, man.

You know, the red carpet stuff that I did take her to, you know, I got to get this drink before I put my clothes on. She embarrassed me. You know, so every time I would try to bring her around those events where your mother's supposed to be present as a reason on why you're here, as an example of, you know, listen, I done made you proud. I need you front and center. In all those instances, what does she do? Cuss somebody out? Yeah. Put her hands on somebody.

And these are times where these were suable offenses that she's done. And people kind of understood based on, okay, you know what? I don't think that's really her. I think the fact that she has consumed alcohol because we can spell it. Right. Along with other things, but I'm not going to go there. There's no point for that. But, you know, I got off a lot.

And I think that's probably why I've never had alcohol before. And a lot of people don't believe me. A lot of people, perception, when you see, when you see me face. A person's reception is their reality, Ocho. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that doesn't mean it's true.

Yeah, no, no. People think I'm wild. They think I club because they let that on-field persona that I put on put that one number to character. I don't feel I'm nothing like that. Nothing like that.

But that's enough of that before I start crying like a little girl. Yeah. Nothing like that. But that's enough of that before I start crying like a little girl. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there,

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