Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Team USA beats Brazil, Gabby Thomas wins 200m

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to all the latest from the 2024 Paris Olympics, including LeBron James leading Team USA basketball to a 122-87 win over Brazil, Gabby Thomas winning the 200-meter final, and much more!03:40 - Show starts05:05 - USA basketball beats Brazil16:30 - Nike new KD commercial24:07 - Devin Booker doesnt agree with Noah Lyles31:50 - Gabby Thomas wins Gold in the 200m01:06:34 - Cole Hocker wins 150001:11:00 - Valarie Allman wins 2nd consecutive gold01:15:10 - USA Soccer Team going to Gold Medal round(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, we're going to get right into it. The last couple of days, the U.S. has been on a gold rush. Yes, sir. Piling up the medals, getting medals. We're winning gold in places that we really didn't expect to win gold because the reigning world champ, we're going to talk about

Cole Hawker winning the 1500 meter. Yeah. Fantastic finish too. Fantastic finish. He timed it perfect. But let's kick it off. The USA trounce Brazil 122-87. They will play Serbia for the third time on Thursday in one gold medal.

The defending World Cup champion, Germany, played the 2022 Olympic silver medal finalist. France in the other semifinal. Devin Booker with the USA's leading scorer. He had 18 points on five made threes. The U.S. shot the ball extremely well, Ocho. They were 58% from the floor, 48% from the three, 90% from the free throw line. LeBron left the game, caught an elbow to the eye,

ended up getting stitched, left in the third quarter. He had 12 points. Joel Embiid had his most impressive outing in the Olympics. He had 14. We mentioned Devin Booker had 18. Kevin Durant had 11. Anthony Davis had 13. Ant-Man had 17.

122 to 87. They dominated. They started out. This is the way I expected them to play. This is how I expected them to look. And they've out this is the way i expected them to play this is how i expected them to look and they've been they've been winning in dominating fashion um you never know who's going to be the hot man on a given night show given what we have to offer and for them guys to sacrifice because every guy is the guy on their team and for them to sacrifice shots to

sacrifice minutes to sacrifice whatever they're having to sacrifice for the commonality of the one thing, win the gold medal and represent the USA in the highest form. Kudos to this team. Silver medal match with Serbia. Nikola Jokic is in front of them with a chance to go to the gold medal round. Ocho, when you watch this game, what did you like about what you saw? I mean, they thought out there having fun. I understand the pressures. I understand it's the Olympics,

but they were out there having fun. Obviously, Brazil's team is not of size. They don't really have any bigs down there. Joel Embiid, even though when you look at from a matchup standpoint, they didn't really need him based on his size and being 7'1", but he played anyway. And when he did play, he played a little different than what we're used to for our bigs.

You want your bigs inside as opposed to outside. But he played outside game and mid-range was on. He was shooting good from the field. He was shooting a three and everybody else was having fun. Devin Booker leading the charge. Anthony Edwards had a great game. And like you did say, everybody contributed in a great way. And listen, Steve Kerr, I mean, his job is very difficult because do you think everyone is still happy?

Do you think everyone is still happy? When you look at it, I know the common goal is to win gold, but I know they want to be able to put on their skill and represent their country and be a contributor. A contributor, for the most part, as one of the reasons why they won gold. So I think players want to get their minutes and be able to score. And I think there are still some rumblings of people not happy with the way things are going.

Well, I think everybody should be happy with the minutes they got. If you look at it, the role player, the second unit played more minutes than the starters. I mean, no starter played more than 17 minutes. And you look at Jason Tatum. He had 20 minutes. Kevin Durant had 21 minutes. Bam

had 19 minutes. Ant-Man had 18 minutes. Derek White had the same number of minutes as the starters. Only person that didn't play double digit minutes was Tyrese Halliburton. He played eight minutes. He was one from the field.

But I think the thing now is that you know now every team that you face now can beat you. So it doesn't matter. It's not a situation where, hey, coach, I need to get my 10, 15, 20 minutes. No, Steve Curry's going to run the guys that he – obviously the starters are going the starters are gonna start we'll see how lebron i see if it holds up i don't see i don't think he's gonna miss any time joel and bead had a little minor ankle injury that he ended up leaving the game um um late uh in the third quarter was it the third quarter that he left ash or the fourth but he ended up leaving the game with an ankle injury. But you know the reigning world champs is Germany. We know what the French

possess. They have Wemby. They have Gobert. They have Fournette. So they have and the Germans, they have Dennis Schroeder. They have the Wagner brothers. So, and Serbia, we already know who's on that team.

The three-time league MVP and bogey. The shooting guard from the Atlanta Hawks. So, these last three teams, the potential that the Americans can face if we play Serbia in the semifinals and then potentially Germany or France could beat them. And they know that. And so, I expect them to be on their best behavior. Whoa, you got too much dip on your chip now.

What's that? They have some good players. They have some good players, but the chance of them actually beating the U.S. is slim to none. That's not going to happen. You got a better chance of finding Jimmy Hoffa and any of the teams that are left in contention than beating the U.S.A. team, especially knowing that because of who they're playing,

I think the players are going to raise their level of play even more. The thing is, Ocho, is that one thing, since you say you never underestimate. Underestimate your opponent. And you never overestimate yourself. Okay. And you'll be fine. Because there's a reason why the pros have come playing now.

Remember? Pros didn't use to play. Yeah. But you're talking about a knockout round now, Ocho. One game? Yes, sir. Think about football. Think about how many teams have gotten up. There ain't no way they can lose this game.

In one game, anything can happen. You're a twe a tweak ankle you are a bad foul you are terribly rough ref game right i think but listen in order for that to happen hypothetically speaking yes they would have to have they would have to play horrendous everybody would have to be shooting horrible from the field. Steph, threes wouldn't be falling. LeBron really can't get it going. Anthony Edwards can't have no, he's off rhythm. KD, not efficient from the field. I just don't see it happening. Even though I understand what you're saying. I understand the analogies. Never underestimate your opponent. Never overestimate yourselves. But it ain't, I don't see it happening. I see the players raising their level of play,

understanding it is a knockout stage and not giving anyone a chance to even contend or give us that feeling that we even have a chance to lose. And I think they'll make a statement when they do play, who they play? Serbia. Coming up. Yeah, when they play Serbia.

I think they're going to make a statement to let folks know, to let us know we ain't got nothing to worry about stateside. Plus also, Ocho, you got to realize the host country team is still in it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you ever heard of home cooking? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I heard of home cooking, but come on now. Don't do me like that. No, I'm just saying. I don't see it happening. I understand you have to play defense.

You got to play defense. No, no, no. Look, I'm just saying, I'm not naive enough to believe that on a given moment, anything can happen. One game. Right. Do I believe any of these teams could beat this team, could beat the U.S. team four out of seven?

No. Right. Oh, no. On a given night. Oh.S. team four out of seven? No. Right. Oh, no. Give a night. Oh, so you're saying to give a night? Yeah. Somebody get hot. We don't.

But even then, though, it's still. Jokic goes for 50, 20, and 10. Oh, no. That ain't happening. Maybe on 2K. Maybe on 2K, but not over here in Paris. I mean, he's capable of doing it when we see him in an nba atmosphere that's different you got to understand the players that are surrounding him

when he's able to put up 50 50 whatever whatever the stat line you just put up is but now in this atmosphere you have great play he doesn't have those elite players surrounding him he has one one or two guys on his team that can contend and challenge those on the U.S. team. But no, I don't see it happening. He doesn't need to have that kind of talent. He just needs to have guys that understand how to play international ball, which he has,

which they play together more than this team. Remember, they put this team together. This team has only been together a month. A month, yeah. How long do you think the Serbian team has been playing together off and on but probably hey listen probably since they were little kids exactly they probably came up through the same academy the same you you know you know how that goes over that week that's why i mean look at schruder schruder was was people play mvp i got his desk i mean i mean, he overestimated his hand because the Lakers had 84 million.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He said no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like a mid-level except chefs exceptions or 10, you know, $10 million deal when he

could have had $20 million. But that's not. I have a question. Go ahead. I have a question. You would know better than me. The fact that he that he turned down that 84 million. Is there a chance he can still get it now, or is that gone?

That ain't happening. He's not getting a $100 million contract. That's not happening. Even with the way he's playing now? Nope. Yeah. Nope. Sometimes they tell you to bet on yourself.

This is one of the first cases where betting on yourself and then go right. That's the thing, Ocho. We only hear the successes or I bet on myself and I turn to him. But what happens when you bet on yourself, you know, you bet on yourself and it doesn't go accordingly.

But I love what I saw today. I love the way they moved the ball. 31 assists, Ocho. Only 11 turnovers. Did a good job on the glass 46 rebounds out rebounds by 12 11 offensive

rebounds you can live with that it's going to be hard the US team play like this you let them shoot 58% from the floor you're not beating them you're not beating them you're not beating them they shot 48 what almost 49% from the three you're not beating them you're not beating them you're not beating them they shot 48 what almost 49

percent from the three you're not beating americans you let them shoot 122 points it ain't happening you're not beating them like that uh yeah oh joel and b didn't play the entire second half so he got nick uh before the half i think they were up 27 at the half I think they were up like what 63 36 something like that I think it seemed there was no doubt although we know the Serbians came back and beat the Australians they were down by 24

and they came back and beat them in overtime but once I was you know I'm looking at my like oh I like nah this a wrap now just make sure nobody in a game like a wrap. Nah, just make sure nobody. In a game like this, Ocho, you try to make sure nobody gets injured. Get hurt. You know, hey, hey, hey, come on.

LeBron. Hey, Kirby, still booked. Come on, come on. Hey, y'all take it over, guys. And, yeah, it was good. I mean, it was a great all-around performance. Very unselfish. You know, LeBron had nine assists.

Obviously, some great passes to uh jason tatum but i like this it's gonna be awful tough to beat this team if they play like this yeah nike have a little something in store for kevin durant to celebrate him becoming the team's usa's basketball all-time olympic leading scorer after kd was left out the nike's original winning is a for everyone uh olympic campaign and voiced his frustration with the omission nike gave him his own commercial today narrated by deon sanders there's a reaper every four years your time runs out you might forgot your debt but he's ready to collect coach prime says in the commercial as highlights of Durant play in the background. Oh, we can't play that game.

Damn! Why we can't? Because I like our monetization button. Okay, my bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Look, we know what Kevin Durant is.

Would I be surprised if KD isn't on the team in 2028 i wouldn't be surprised at all it's only four years and i know kd what that'll be year 22 i think kd's a year that maybe your well it'll be year 21 or 22 for kd in 28 how How old is he? KD, what, 35? 36? He's 35 or 36. 35. So in four years, 39.

Hell, LeBron, 40. Yeah. I mean, if his body holds up, I mean, he should be able to do it. Yeah. He should be able to do it. I wouldn't be surprised at all, Locho, if he's there trying to go for a fifth gold, potential fifth gold medal if they were to go out and close out

business and do what they're supposed to do in this situation. But very well deserved. We know he's the greatest scorer in Olympic history. Now he's the all-time leading scorer in men's. He's the all-time leading scorer in Olympic history, right? Not just U.S. history. Olympic history.

Matter of fact, that's it. Or is it Oscar Schmidt? U.S. men and women. Oscar Schmidt might be number one from the – look at Brazil. Because he's the one that made the U.S. go get – when he put that outstanding performance on him, he dropped 48 on the head. Matter of fact, if KD, well, if the Brazilian is the greatest Olympic score, right? I have a question.

Is KD the greatest NBA score of all time? In your estimate, what you think? I mean, until somebody averaged 54 a season, a 44-4 season, like we'll average 44, average 50, 44, 38. Right. He's the only man able to score 4,000 points in the season. It all depends. It all depends. Is he the most efficient scorer?

Right. I mean, people keep saying, so what is LeBron? If one guy has the most points ever been scored and he shoots at a high percent, so what are we talking about? Right. I mean, it's apples to oranges. Is it Kobe? Is it Jordan?

Is it James Harden? Look, we've never seen anything like Kevin Durant. A guy that's seven foot tall, can put the ball on the floor, can shoot the three. He's great at the mid-range. He doesn't fall in love with the three. Even though he's good from that distance, he'll get to the mid-range. He can put the ball on the floor, get all the way to the rim.

And if you follow him, he's going to make 90% of his shots. He's very unique in that way. And so, I mean, analytics, it all depends on what you're looking for. Jordan had the mid-range jordan didn't have a three-point shot like this kobe didn't have a three-point shot like kevin durant right but when they did shoot from the three they were efficient though no they shot kobe was like 34 33 percent jordan was like 33 32 percent yeah no they were yeah that's okay matter of fact the fact that you just mentioned jordan somebody on Twitter earlier, right? Matter of fact, right before we started the show, they made a comment. I told him that it would be at the top of the show.

But the fact that you brought up Jordan and you would be able to answer it better than me. He said Michael Jordan could not play in today's NBA. He would just be an average player. Huh? I just, yeah. Listen, that's what they said. I'm not sure what they're basing that off of i don't know either well and and they and then his follow-up was

the players in today's era are much more athletically gifted as opposed to what jordan had to face i i don't know from a basketball standpoint my knowledge isn't as great as yours i just want to hear a short answer on what you think. I disagree with him. Okay. So even though the players today have led him together. I'm not going to say he's going to act. I mean, maybe. But it's hard to average that without the three ball. It depends.

And knowing Jordan like we know him, he's going to work on that shot. Because now you can't follow him. You know, it's hard to hand check below the free throw line. And you can't arm bar. They let you arm bar. They let you arm bar. They let you put your forearm in the guy's back. Jordan is going to be Jordan. Right.

No matter what. They're just more. I would explain it like this, Ocho. When I played in the NFL, there were only a couple of tight ends that could do what I do. Yes, sir. There are a lot more guys that are as athletic. Right. I'm not saying they're Jordan, but as athletic.

Right. Do I believe that the skill level, there are more skilled players now playing than they were back then? Yes. Right. Just like the players now, they starting out, Ochoa, with what? That 707 camp? They going to 707 at eight, nine years old. Right.

Ain't enough to no damn football camp right and we first of all if they were we had no money you ain't going no university georgia that's $50 $75 who got that so uh jordan was gonna be jordan i mean right here's the thing and i'll say it like this great players great player jordan is a historically great player a transcendent great And I'll say it like this. Great players. Great player. Jordan is a historically great player. A transcendent great player. He's going to adapt to any era. No matter the sport.

That's a good answer. That's a good answer. I like that. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

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medalist who believed that being an NBA champion is probably harder to do. Devin, this was a moot point. It was bad. We had put this to bed. Why are you bringing it up? You're going to back up, huh? Yes. And I disagree with you.

It is not harder. Because you know why? Because you can play. You cannot run. If anything below your waist is bothering you you ain't winning we've seen guys with toes with arches with achilles we've seen guys be able to tape things up and play we've seen guys play with broken legs we've seen guys play with a uh what the right right half a dislocated elbow ah yeah yeah i remember that we saw a guy in the rams jack youngblood played with a broken leg tell me what what what you gonna do in track and field

with a broken leg you tell me what olympic sport you're gonna be able to do with a broken leg debbie none you know i think i think track i think track athletes they do have injuries the injuries are minimal and their injuries that they can you're not winning they can they can suppress to compete you can't win though you cannot win if anything hey but think about it at that level we talk about the best of the best elite athletes you think they're athletes athletes in Paris that might not be injured or might not have little nicks? And they're not winning.

You can't be – Because it's so – Remember, what did Justin Gatlin say? 9-7 ain't catching 9-7. So if I run 9-8 and you run 9-8 and you injured, how you beat me? That's a good one. But you know what? See, my football sense is coming in something about when

you get to the playoffs when you get to the playoffs hell everybody on the team is nicked up everybody heard at that point especially that far into the season so when i think about track i'm thinking all you've done the qualifying the prelims there's always something you're not 100 healthy so i'm always thinking as track athletes to get the the wear and tear of your body to even get to the point to qualify and to be in goddamn paris then i'm thinking maybe there's always something not enough to would affect you in winning a race no but you're not 100 healthy i could be wrong no i could be wrong you ain't winning nothing in track and field because everything is is leg dominated unless you're a shooter yeah now if you go to ojo you know i'm saying

if you shooting i gotta pull hamstring and i'm a shooter and i'm doing archery but if i'm swimming if i'm doing gymnastics if i'm running most of the summer olympics is that his leg dominant is from waist down. What if you Nick and inherit the thing? I'm not saying you can't compete. Right. Like you said, the levels are so here. It's so here. It's so even look up.

Think about this. Look at no, look at the time, the distance. Look at the time differential. Right. Between first and fifth. Yeah. You think a guy can be hurt and win? Win, yeah. When the talent is right here, everything is right here.

It's down to thousands of a second. A second. The margin of error is so slim. No. Margin of error is so slim. I got you. I got you. We're going to have a special guest tomorrow

we can ask him ladies and gentlemen I'm going to go ahead and let the rabbit out of the rabbit bag or the cat out the hat or whatever the case may be cat out the bag the cat out the bag I've got to be trying to sound like Ocho we're going to have

former world record holder in the 400 meters, the 200 meters two time Olympic gold medal in the 400, the only man who that? Michael Johnson oh boy we got Mike coming on the show let's go man

so Michael Johnson I got a story about Mike I ain't gonna say it because you ain't going to believe me. Yeah. You ain't going to believe me. I'm going to let him tell you. Goddamn Mike. He'll explain it to you in the running because that's the thing.

Can I get enough races in my leg? We've seen. I'll give you a prime example. Look at Athene Moe. Oh, hey, she the real deal in the 800, boy. We see that when it's close and you injured them girls beat you girls would never beat her when she's 100 healthy oh no so but you know what her injury was significant though if i'm not mistaken i think it was a

hamstring right it was and she didn't get the training in so now you don't get the training in yeah and soft tissue injuries ain't nothing to play with right to be able to turn over and to go through the rounds yes sir maybe if it's a diamond league meet they paying you to come over you just running one running one right right but when you got to go through rounds yeah it's a little bit more difficult that's why and and and the expectations that's why you tip your hat off to the favorite you saying vote every year he went to the olympics he was the favorite in the 100 and the 200 and the weight of the expectation and his country they they they four years for the Olympics. They're a guy.

He has the weight of a country on his back. Some of these athletes have the weight of a country. We have basketball. We have football. We have soccer. We have so many other sports. But a lot of these countries, they hang their hopes. These men and women are

national heroes. I can imagine the welcome that Julia Adolfo is going to get when she goes back to St. Lucia. I'm talking about a country. Listen, I understand. When they go back to their hometowns, I'm sure they're going to get a ticker tape parade.

It's different. It's different. A country. Usain Bolt is the most I'm sure they're going to get a ticker tape parade. It's different. It's different. It's different. Different. Usain Bolt is the most popular Jamaican times over. Whoever you thought the most popular Jamaican was, other than Bob Marley. Bob Marley. I was just going to say Bob.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Usain number two. Yeah. Yeah, you're right and they they hang their they hang they hang everything on their men's and women track team yeah it's conducive and they're feeling like why jamaica because of the climate it's conducive look at the states that produce the fast guy texas the climate florida yeah climate georgia the climate cal Georgia, the climate. California, the climate. Jamaica, you can go to Jamaica

year-round. You might have a storm here or there, but the weather is ideal. The Kenyans, it's perfect. You're above altitude, you're training at about 7,000 feet, so when you come, lungs are full of air.

Full of oxygen. That's why you get in a hyperbaric chamber, because hyperbaric chamber is altitude. That's why they sleep in those. They train in that, Ocho. They're running. They're sleeping in that. That's why they go to... Where are the Olympic training facilities for the U.S.

practice? Colorado Springs? Elevation over 7,000 feet. Right. That's great. It's going to be great catching up with Mike. Oh, Mike, man. Ocho, Gabby Thomas wins gold in the 200 meters with a

time of 21.82. The first American since Allison Felix did it in 2012. Julian Alford, the 100-meter champ from St. Lucia, got one to silver, and Brittany Brown of the U.S. got the bronze medal. Thomas, who's 27, is one of the biggest stars in the sport and has yet to claim a gold medal.

She took the bronze in an event in Tokyo behind Jamaica's Elaine Thompson-Hara and Namibia's Christine Mambo. Mambo, yeah. As well as Silver in the 400-meter relay. Oh, they beat us in the relay? Did you say they beat us in the relay? Yeah, hell yeah.

Yeah, yeah. No, we beat them in the world championship. Championship, yeah. They beat us in the Olympics for the simple fact. Man, think about who they had. They had Elaine Thompson-Heron, who had just run 10.61. Shelly Ann Frazier-Price, who's run 10.60. Sharika Jackson, who's run 10.60.

So, hell, they could have threw Ash on there. And as long as she don't fall, they're probably going to get the – they're going to at least get the silver. But we paid the ass back in the world championships. But Gabby's unbelievable. She graduated Harvard in neurobiology. I think she got a master's degree in epidemiology. She's sensational.

She went to Harvard, too? She went to Harvard, too. Damn, that's crazy. Okay. Yeah, and she ran. She ran that turn. Because a lot of times, Ocho, she'll lally gang. And then turn it on when she...

But she ran that stretch. If I'm the US team, Ocho, I'm putting ass on the four by four. At what leg? At... I'll probably put it... No, you can't say any leg because you know she carries on the four no no no she's running third leg I'm saying the four by four

four by four okay okay okay okay okay okay I'm gonna make sure her and Sidney McLaughlin Lebroni right they're both on that team I'm putting her on there she can run sub 50 yeah I am putting her on there. She can run sub 50. Yeah.

I am putting her on that team. Matter of fact, if anything, because she's so good, I don't know if the 400 is her expertise or her race, but the fact that she... She thought about moving up. Listen, I would put her on the first leg just to open up everything. Just to open it up. To get us a lead.

Well, first of all, i don't know there ain't a whole lot of there's not a whole lot of teams that can try out for women that can run sub 50 we have about six women over there that can all run sub 50 right on a fly cindy mclaughlin can go sub 48 i've seen her do it the reason why i want gabby gabby is a dog and she will fight so even if even if even if you know like that's not her specialty it is her specialty her specialty is winning yeah and i i want her and what she has in her on that team the correct i'm trying to think of the lady uh at the uh i can't think of the white lady she ran second leg last year at the olympics um she's meter, 200 meter specialist. Look up the Olympic team, the four by four. I can't think of her name. Oh man.

And she, Hey, they put on there. Yeah. Split 48. Gabby Thomas on the fly. She can run 48 seconds. Right? No, no, no, no. Last year, the last, last, last live in Tokyo by four.

Damn. No. The four by four in Tokyo. The winning team. It was the Lula Muhammad. It was Sydney McLaughlin. What was the second leg name? She also ran second leg on the Lula Muhammad. It was Sydney McLaughlin. What was the second leg name? She also ran second leg on the four by one.

Abby Steiner. Abby Steiner. Oh, Abby went to Kentucky. Went to Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah. Abby can go, right? Abby got that.

Got that. Now, Gabby is not the 100-meter like Abby is. Right, right. At 204, she can do it. Yeah. I'm putting Gabby Thomas, and I don't care whose feelings I hurt, I'm putting Gabby Thomas as a leg on the 4x4. She's already going to run third leg.

And the thing is, the question that I have is, because all of our women have already qualified, She's already going to run third leg. And the thing is, the question that I have is, because all of our women have already qualified, and we've already run the 100 and the 200, are we going to trot out the team that we're going to run the, we get the baton around, are we going to trot out the team that we're going to actually have for the finals? Because Sha'Carri's done. Sha'Carri's going to run

anchor. Gabby's going to run third leg. T.T. Terry will probably run second leg. And Melissa Jefferson will run first leg. Now, the question is, do we let, you know, Mackenzie Long, or do we let

some of the other women, know okay for a chance it's gonna be interesting to see how they play it but i'm that's one of the questions i want to ask mike would you put gabby thomas on the leg of the four by four we know she's gonna run third leg right because she can run the curve she's a 200 meter specialist so she can run the hell out the curve so i want her there you know what i got a question yes let's say for the sake of argument hypothetically speaking yes no allows doubles he doubles in the 200 would go he doubles me he doubles going to 200 i'll be going to so when the four by one comes up right yeah he's right do you do you do you let him triple it or do you use one of the alternates that you have?

Well, the only reason you'd use the alternate, and you probably would, because I think, look, Fred is rested. Christian Coleman is rested. Christian Coleman is going to lead off. Fred Curley is going to run second leg. I would think that for the finals, if they get the baton and they have no miscues, Kenny Benderick would run third leg, and I obviously know I would bring that for the finals, if they get the baton and they have no miscues, Kenny Vendarek wouldn't run third leg. And obviously, Noah would bring it home.

So, Noah's going to be on the ankle for the foreseeable future. So, you don't think allowing one of the alternates to come in, allow them an opportunity to win gold? Yeah, that might, it all depends. But, yeah. I mean, I'm just, this would be this would almost be somewhat like like a steve kerr situation allowing one of the alternates to get an opportunity to not only win the prize money but give them a chance at a gold medal yeah instead of just being all the way

out there in paris for nothing as okay i'm an alternate maybe i might i might get a chance to run i might not but i would like my shine as well to say i contributed after taking this long ass six hour flight i mean think about ocho we got two guys that that that was on the podium on that relay team fred curly got bronze he's run 976 he's a world champ in the 100 meters he He got the silver medal in the last Olympics. We got Kenny Bannery. He's run 987. Mm hmm. He's going to be in the finals of the 200. So we Christian Coleman is the greatest starter in history, especially in American history. Now, you want to take being, you know, they they they then they, Ben could actually beat the, beat the gun. So now the gun, the sense, the, the blocks have sensors in them. Right. You go 0.0. He would be, actually, he was like,

out of there. He was gone. Yeah. So now they got sensors in the blocks and if you go faster than that, they're going to dig on DQ you, but they're going to get us off to a great start. Hey, think about this. I think, obviously, I'm just, this is hypothetical. Imagine if Fred Curley,

Noah Lyles, Christian Coleman, Kung Fu Kenny, think about if they knew how to play football. They were fast as they are, but had the skill set and the control to be able to play the game of football. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? I think about Raheem Mostert.

Take Raheem Mostert off the Dolphins and put one of them as a running back. Imagine him hitting the A gap. They never played football. I know. That's why I say hypothetically. I'm just thinking, what if they had the skill set but still had the speed how crazy would that be every time they touch the ball

now you look at Bob Hayes Bob Hayes played football at Florida A&M he was a footballer and you see the way he was built he was a running back they drafted him the Cowboys drafted him with the 88th overall with the hopes that

he would give up track and field nah it is like okay no money because remember jesse owens he won the 100 the 200 the long jump and the four by one and when he came home he had to race horses to make a living yeah yeah bob hayes said thates said, that ain't finna happen to me. I go right into the NFL. They pay $40,000, $50,000, $100,000 a year. Let me go and get that money. If they had played football early. Right.

But if you, I don't know how, have you seen, they frail, they thin. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, they small, man. They small. Noah Lyles, I know. Yeah, they small, man. They small. No, a lot of them weigh 165. Yeah. But I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, imagine. I should have said receiver then.

Yeah. Because 165 or running back, that ain't happening. I'm just trying to picture them. Hey, I'm just trying to picture them breaking into the open and players thinking, oh, I'm going to catch him because I got an angle. And it don't even work. I've been fortunate. I was in the league when

Sam Grady, Dada. He won the silver medal in the 84 Olympics. He went to Northside. He was moving like that? How tall was Dada? Probably about 5'8". Probably about 160'8".

Probably about 160, 165. Oh, he was taller than Tyreek then? Yeah. He had a little height on him. They could fly James Jett. I was in the league with James Jett. Yeah. Run on his toes. James run on his toes.

Man, that joke called a shallow cross on us. You were out of there? Where the safety was at? What you mean was that? What you mean where? Try not to get on this highlight tape. That's what a safety was. Hell, I don't blame it. Guys, y'all talking about Xavier Howard is 165.

Xavier Howard played football. Wait, you mean Xavier Worthy? Worthy, excuse me. Xavier Worthy played football. Wait, you mean Xavier Worthy? Worthy, excuse me. Xavier Worthy played football. It's hard to take a guy that's never played a sport and say, you know what? Everybody say, well, Julius Peppers played basketball, but Julius Peppers played football. Antonio Gates had played football. Jimmy Graham had played football.

Right. You think about how fast Xavier Worthy is based on the combine time? He come in dead last with them. Yeah, for sure. Dead last. It's the difference in football speed and then

elite track speed. That's why I would just want to see it. I just want to see somebody breaking the open and just see it because it's a sight to see. When Chris Johnson, when they used to give Chris Johnson that pitch. Yeah, they gave him that talk. And that second-level miss. It's over.

Man, you might well strike up the band. Y'all remember Ronaldo Neal Myers? You remember Skeets Neal Myers? You remember Ronaldo? Yeah, I remember him. I'm old enough to remember him. I'm old enough to remember him. I'm old enough to remember him. He tried football because they boycotted

the 80-11. He was the favorite to win the hurdles, but they boycotted him. He said, you know what? I'm going to play football. Well, he didn't have football instinct on the shallow cross. He must have ran through zone. He ran through zone? Yeah.

He went right back to track and field. Bad. Yeah, I mean, it's subtle nuances. If they had a background, and I'm not talking about no pop warner but i'm saying let's just say they played high school at the collegiate level i think arian knighton

arian knighton played football yeah and he gave it up because you know he was so good at track which i don't blame him um but that that's that you're right that's a different level of speed you gotta say i don't know how many people have ever been to a professional track meet to watch them or to watch a practice. Then you get an appreciation. Thanks for it. Yeah. To just how fast they are because you think Tyreek,

every guy that's on that track is Tyreek. So let that sink in. You know how fast Tyreek is. Yeah. They got 35, 40 Tyreeks that ran in the Olympics. Wait, faster?

Yes. Faster. Yes. Unbelievable. I mean, what's impressive about Tyreek is a man with his musculature able to run that fast.

If Tyreek dropped like 30, he too heavy now. 195, he coming in dead last. He coming in dead last. But if he's like 165, maybe 170, oh yeah. Oh, he'd get out.

Especially if he trained. What he has, he's naturally gifted, he's naturally gifted. He's naturally fast. If you add the training that they go through, man, shh. He might want to go back in football because they don't run

that much in football compared to what they do in track. They'll work out a beat. Them 250s. Listen, I went to Kentucky. I visited Kentucky to visit my daughter. And you know me, when it comes to competing,

I can't sit still. So I get out there and I want to do the training. I want to do the training with them. Man, I did two 250s and I thought it was over. And then they had the 400 and you had to do the 400.

They had two 400s. You had to do the 400 in a certain amount of time. Oh, yeah, for sure. Everything is time-based. There's nothing that you're just running, Ocho. You ain't just running. Everything is time.

I told Coach, man, I appreciate the opportunity, man, but I'm going to sit over here and watch. If you're a 400-meter runner, you're probably running 600s. You're running a lot of 600s. Yeah. Because you want to build up that endurance. And the strength, yeah. Yeah, you want to build up that endurance and the strength yeah you want to build up that you want to build up that strength and you're not getting a whole lot of rest time you're probably you're running 600 meters they probably got you turning around in four minutes running another one i don't want no part of that

oh man oh that's them track workouts and i thought i thought we were doing something because we oh so you know we run hundreds we run you know 110 sprints we running like like to run it like the wire receivers and running back you're running 14 you're running 14 seconds get 40 you run 14 seconds right 45 second break take a rest yeah oh y'all did that too yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah i remember that but and. We would run 200. We would finish in about 30 seconds. We'd take two minutes break. We'd run around the track

and then we'd walk the time that it'd take us to get back over there. We'd take off again. We'd run five. We'd rest three minutes, run another five, rest three minutes, run another five. Boy. I remember them days, boy. I don't want no more parts of that.

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for those that didn't come into shape, everybody had to suffer anyway. So they were going to run us into shape. Yeah. And you want to, you want to, you know, you got the time,

you get the rest. Yeah. So you want to finish your gases, not very fast, but fast enough. So you get enough time to rest based on the clock, how much time you had to finish your gases not very fast but fast enough so you get enough time to rest based on the clock how much time you had to rest so either way you got to work

you got to run no matter what but oh man I'm so glad them days over the worst kind of tired to be is out of shape tired you know what I'm saying Ocho that's why oh you're not going to get me because once they find out you're tired now they're going to get you.

Now you're going to mess up your hamstring. You're going to mess up something else. So I make sure I came, I'm talking about at the peak of conditioning. Yeah. Because that's a terrible feeling, Ocho, to be out of shape. I felt bad for some of my teammates, and some of my teammates, you know,

they didn't make, you know, they were overweight and they'd have to run hundreds. But a lot i would run with them right they're like hey you better ask you better ask 84 is he gonna run with i'm like you know what hey keep it from running by yourself i run with you i run with you yeah that's what you know that's another thing i don't like with it it's one thing to be in shape it's the one that is one thing to think you're in shape it's one thing to think you're in football shape It's one thing to think you're in football shape, the way we train in offseason. And then there's a football shape when you're in an organized, structured environment being pushed and pulled. With the pads on.

With the pads on. That's why I hate when teams don't have players in training camp and they're holding out for money and all this. Listen, you can't make up for that type of training by yourself. It's different. You thinking you in shape? You've done all this training in the off season. You get in the training camp and on the second or third day,

you sore from head to toe. Yep. Because it's different. It doesn't matter how much you train, how hard you train. In a structured environment, it's different when people are pulling and pushing on you

and you're having the dogs, folks. You can't implement that kind of training. You can't. You get in football shape by playing football. Football. You get in basketball shape by playing basketball. See, CD Lamb, I don't like what Dallas is doing. Right.

And then because here's the thing. Brandon, not you. You know you didn't want to pay the man in the first place. Why wait this long? Why wait this long? Exactly. Now you got to go to pay the man in the first place. Why wait this long? Why wait this long? Exactly. Now, you got to go to another team whenever he does get traded.

You got to learn a new playbook. Even if you are implemented and you're going to be the X, you're going to be the Z, whatever it may be. Still, now you got to play yourself into shape. Even if you think you're in shape, you're not.

Yeah. It all depends. I don't know how y'all ran gassers. Okay, the way we ran them we run over we did sideline to sideline okay no so this is what we did when I first got to Savannah State Colt said

I only got 55 60 uniforms right Ocho we had like 110 115 20 players on the football team on the football team god damn Col Coach say, I got to trim the fat. So, we...

Oh, so you use the gases to do it? Oh, that's not fair. That's not fair. Ocho, so, over. Everybody get over, okay? Yeah. Over back. Right. Over back, over. What? Over back, over back. what over back over back we went to eight

eight eight it's only supposed to be down back twice that's it over back over back over that's it back over back that's one we did that twice oh and then we practiced nah uh-uh right hand before god hell no oh show by 11 o'clock at night man you ought to hurt all them footlocker slamming cars cranking up they up out of there yeah they out of there yeah came back the next day we was down to 75 players from 115 120 to 75. Just that quick. I can imagine. I can imagine. That's more torture, though,

when you think about that. And then we had three-hour practice in the sun in Savannah. You from Savannah. Y'all know what I'm talking about. But me, Ocho, now you know your boy. I'm running on the track.

I just, you know, in track season. So, you know, I'm in shape. You know, I'm running on the track. I just, you know, in the track season. So, you know, I'm in shape. But plus, Ocho, I ain't but 180, 283 pounds. Back then? Back then, my freshman year. Right. So, I already know how coach we come in.

Coach going to get, I'm prying. And so, you know, they try to break. You know, they're going to try to break you. See, back then, it's different now. Ocho, I don't know if you got this, but they're going to try to break you first. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about.

We got that. So the defensive coordinator, he was in charge of the whistle. So he blow the whistle, we take off running. You know me. We've been running about 10 minutes. Right. It's all quiet there, buddy. I said, I bet you get tired of

blowing that whistle before I get tired of running. Now he blow the whistle. He blow the whistle. I said, I tell you what, run me till I drop. So now my teammate, he just blowing the whistle. He blowing the whistle.

He mad at me, but he don't know. He hurting them because I already know if it's hurting me, it's killing them. That's the way you. Yeah, he mad at me, but he don't know. He hurting them because I already know. If it's hurting me, it's killing them. That's the way I train. If it's hurting me, it's killing them. But I say, I tell you what. All I need you to do, coach, run me. Just don't let the cafeteria close because I got to eat tonight.

But keep on, let's keep running. Oh, Joe, he bad. He bad. I tell you what, you know what happened? My homeboy, you see my homeboy, he going to be in Atlanta. The head coach, Coach Davis, said, Joe, they done had enough. I said, see, I told you you get tired of blowing that whistle before I get tired of running.

Hey, that's when you know you're in shape, though. Hey, you know, I was petty like that. Damn. I had some good days. You know what? I look back on it. was like damn why the hell that ain't no way ain't no way now you could put those kids college or anybody that through what you owe those hell nah yeah listen the coaching is different the the coaching the

way we were coached yeah listen i Listen, I'm talking about Pop Warner. Yeah. Pop Warner. Man, what you know about Oklahoma drills, man? What you know about Oklahoma drills? Come on, man. And Bully in the Ring. Y'all play Bully in the Ring?

You remember the Bully? Yes. Oh, yeah, Ocho. Listen, you in the ring and they call the number? They call it. And you got to turn? I'm ready, Ocho. I'm ready.

I'm ready. Pop your feet. Come on with it. Come on with it. Come on with it. Yeah. I remember them days. Listen, I'll never forget. I'll never forget.

Bull in the ring. Liberty City Optimist. This might have been 92 or 93. What's the one where you lay on your back? Oklahoma drill. Yeah. Man, listen. Used to be nervous as hell.

Hard beating fast. Oh, man. It was some days. Listen, listen, used to be nervous as hell, hard beating fast. Oh man, it was some days. Listen, the coach back then, the coaching back then, it wouldn't even work today. All the coaches would be fired.

The cussing, the screaming. Oh yeah. I don't know if you, I don't know how it was in Savannah, but to give people a better context, if they saw the coaching, the coaching style,

remember the documentary, the year of the bull. You ever saw that? Uh-uh. The year of the bull. Man, listen listen it's different based on where we from yeah i don't know how it is everywhere else but out there in the city in liberty city where i'm from the culture man man i had a team oh joe i had a teammate he was laying on the ground he tried was trying to get a rest because, you know, hey, pretend like he was hurt. And the coach

reached down there and grabbed him and snatched the dude's jock clap off. Bro, yeah, you know, how his jock like up on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's whole? Well, clean off.

My coach must have been strong as hell, boy. Man, look here. Man, we must have been strong as hell, boy. Man, look here. Man, we played a game. I forget who we played. I hope Big Daddy. Big Daddy ain't going to come. I had a teammate. We call him.

He a minister now. I call him Big Daddy, but I do call him Pastor Ford when I'm in his presence. But ask Big Daddy about this. So we played a game, and one of the um didn't get the plays that he thought he would get because he was opposite of me i was i started i was the z they kind of rotated the other side but i guess after the first and second quarter he wasn't doing what he's supposed to and uh and he didn't get a play anymore so So Squirrel, I was two, he was three. He finished the game.

And so we ended up losing the game, and the dude, Coach Turner, had his arms folded. Just like, oh, he's standing, and Coach Davis, the head coach, Coach Turner was the offensive coordinator. Coach Turner's standing against the wall, just like this here. And the dude mumbling while Coach Davis talking. Right. I don't know what they're talking about.

So he's saying it, but Coach Turner could hear it. Right. I know Coach Turner. I know. He's know Coach Turner, too, because he a year older than me. Right. No, he two years older than me. He was a year after my brother.

I said, ooh, boy, this ain't going to happen. I'm saying to myself, Ocho, you know how something coming? And you're like, man, please, please stop talking. He wasn't talking loud, but he was talking loud enough what Coach Turner could hear it. And because I was standing

close to Coach Turner, I could hear it. He said it one more time. He slapped him now fire from him yeah yeah he said man he said

go you see he said go he just slapped me Coach Turner said I'll do it again if you don't shut the F up

yeah that's how the coaching was back then boy that's how the coaching was back then yes it was all that back talking and all that stuff

oh oh no oh no oh no look when coach davis came to recruit me he he's like son if i was in the nfl if i had a number one draft pick yes my number one overall draft pick yeah he say son how you how how how did how did your coach coach you i said coach i want to be coach i said but you can't curse me real i said my grandmother never cursed me right i say coach me hard if I'm not doing something right say son I need you to do it like this coach I do I say if you curse me it's gonna be a problem we

get a new offensive coordinator 88 came in that cursing oh Joe so you know up first I'm the number one receiver so you know okay we go through the rock tree right eat out five yard out running the game up first, I'm the number one receiver, so you know, okay, we go through the route tree. Right. Speed out, five yard out. Blue.

Running the game. Okay. Because, you know, maybe I didn't speed out, maybe I planted and broke out. Maybe you want to speed out. So I'm going to fight that thing. Running the game. You know me,

I'm football, that's my ticket out of here all i'm thinking about hey i ran it again speed cut it boom quarterback through it boom got it turned up run it again what the hell i said coach i mean what am I doing wrong don't worry about it run the mofo route again oh shit hey oh joe I ain't I ain't changed words

like my grandma used to say I ain't changed words with you right I who dropped him right there yeah I walk into the locker room

right coach coach Davis said hey where you going i said coach he cursed me i told him i don't do that coach david said hey he said brick i told you don't f with that one i coached him yeah he came to the locker room he came i was in auto i was already by the time they got done with practice,

because they better get into practice. I'm in my bed. I done went and got me some. I done went to the cafeteria. You ate. I'm laying in my bed just like this. You're chilling. You're chilling.

Hold on. I want to know. Now you got me. I'm all invested in the story. Why the hell he made you run the goddamn speed out? I'm the big dog. He trying to get everybody's attention. So he going to do that through me. speed up i'm the big dog he's trying to get everybody attention so he gonna he gonna coach

he gonna do that through me oh so he he trying to antagonize you just for no reason in front of everybody else trying to show that i'm in control here so i'm gonna get on him he didn't realize him you don't need to do that bro i'm gonna do what you asked me to do right right but you can't curse me yeah i don't know hey boy i don't know if you can survive that here boy because hey listen the coaching here whether it be the the collegiate level i'm talking about even at um whether it be not that i went there i mean i just i just know high school level again if you if you ever see the documentary, The Year of the Bull, you got to tell Ash to show you just a small little clip

so you get to understand what I'm talking about. When I played at Liberty City Optimist, Noah and the Innocents with them coaches, it's about cursing? Yeah. Man, listen. Matter of fact, whoa, hold up. When you were in Little League and you coming up in high school, I mean, that's okay.

You didn't know any better. Right, right, right. You didn't know no better. Everybody got the coaches. You know all the coaches. They coached everybody like that. But once I got to some size and I'm, you know, Coach Hall never, Coach Hall don't curse anyway.

So Coach Hall, my high school coach, that's what coached my mom. My mom graduated high school in 1960. He coached all my uncles. My uncle started graduating in 66, 67, 68. He was the driver's ed teacher. So he knew my family. Okay. But he didn't curse anyway.

Right. So tell your story, old child, and then we're going to get over to the thing. My grandfather obviously had a farm. You know, my oldest uncle, he already gone. He got a family, blah, blah, blah. But the boys, hey, they got to work the farm. Okay. Hey, Mr. Barney, the boy's really good.

My second oldest uncle named Barney Jr., they called him BJ. Then my next oldest uncle, Thurman, and then James. So, my grandfather told Coach Hall, he said, Hall, I'm going to let these boys play football. Now, if something happened to one of them, y'all going to come here and help me tend these

fields. Hey, my granddaddy ain't playing now. Oh, no, no, Mr. Porter. Ain't nothing going to happen to him. I give you my word. Nothing going to happen. My younger uncle broke his ankle.

Ah. Coach Hall know this. He already, my grandfather already told him. So he send the assistant coach to take James home. Uh-oh. He pull up there. My uncle get out there, he hopping. My grandfather meet him at the door.

What the hell? Yeah, Mr. Barney, that boy done broke his leg. He said, oh, he did, huh? Paul told you what I said, right? No, Mr. Barney ain't tell it. He said, I say if something happened to one of them boys, y'all two gonna help me tend these fields.

Oh, and he agreed to that? Yeah. Well, Mr. Barney, I don't know anything about field. Well, who in the hell going to help me tend these fields? So after that happened, he's like, oh, you ain't getting no more of my boys. Well, it wasn't, but two of us, me and my brother. Right, right.

So had my grandfather not passed, we not playing no football. Football? No, hell no. That's funny. Oh, Barney Porter, he play that? He old. Hey, I wish I could

take you to my hometown and people my age. Yeah. You know what that sounds like, what you just said? What is it? You saw the movie Fences, right? Yeah.

Remember Denzel's son wanted to play football and Denzel was like, no, you don't want to play football. You need to go find you a train. Yeah. Remember Denzel's son wanted to play football, and Denzel was like, no, you don't want to play football. You need to go find you a trade. Yeah. Where the trade was, you're going to be working in them fields. It wasn't no trade.

You're going to be working in the fields. Fields, yeah. Oh, Joe, Cole Hawker stuns the world. He outkicks Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, in the 1,500 meters. 1,500. The race billed as a bar brawl because Jakob Ingebrigtsen, the Norwegian, has been doing a lot of talking. He's the reigning Olympic champ.

Josh Kerr, he's the reigning world champ. I like what Cole Hawker said the other day. He was in the race with both of them, and he said, I like where I was. It shows me I can run with these guys so i'm not giving up on the gold medal yet lo and behold inger brisson tried to take the pace out right what he likes to do he likes to push the pace he likes to get out there yep but he did for 1200 meters he pushed the pace came out of nowhere at the very the last

10-15 meters that was a good kick that's what Kerr that's Kerr's fault you never let anybody pass you on the inside you slam the door yeah never

that's 101 running you gotta make him go around to make him go around you. Make it that much more difficult. Make him go around you. Yes. He blocked. You know, he probably thought he could look up at the screen, right? You think there's a screen in front of him?

Yeah. He probably didn't even know anybody was on his inside. Well, here's the thing. He probably, when Inga Brisson blocked him the first time, he thought he was going to give up and probably go wide because normally what they do, you block me on the inside, I'll slingshot and I'll come wide. Right.

And it make it that much more difficult too. Parker says, nah, you're going to relax and think that's what I'm going to do, but I'm going to come up on your inside again. Got by, he have no juice. So now it's between he, Joshua, and the goose. Yeah.

I mean, but Ocho, if a guy, all I can do is give you my best. I mean, think about the time. He ran an Olympic record. He beat his best by three seconds. What am I to do? Ocho, if I give you my best,

if your best, Ocho, you get your best route and to do whether it's a shake, whether it's an out, whether it's the end whatever the case may be Ocho if you cover your best route what you want me to do yeah they get paid too

that man ran three, he ran an Olympic record I mean that's the second fastest, that's the second fastest American time ever Bernard Legat got the fastest time I mean that's the second fastest that's the second fastest American time ever Bernard Legat got the fastest time but only by fractions of a second

right but it was unbelievable the first time since 1912 in Stockholm we've had two men to podium in the 1500 meters. Obviously, that race is normally dominated by the Kenyans. Inga Britson won it in Tokyo.

But normally, the East African nations normally do a great job of the way they train. The Kenyans or the Ethiopians or some of those normally win that race. But for Cole Hawker to do that on a big stage, he, a personal best by three seconds. Seconds. I mean, listen, the feel, the feel, the feel, especially in a final, will push you to do something extraordinary.

Yes. They will push you to do something extraordinary every time. You got to. But see, think about it. That's what it was going to do something extraordinary every time. You got to. But see, think about it. That's what it was going to take for him to medal. That's what, I mean, even if he runs his best. Think about it. If he runs 329, which is a second better, he ain't get no medal.

He ain't going to make the podium. Right. That's crazy. If he runs 328, he's get the bronze yeah he has to run a three second personal best in order to get the gold yeah and on that day see oh joe remember that that one day now yeah he had never beat inger brisson never beaten josh kerr but for one race i just need to be better than you right now yeah tomorrow not next next week week, not an Anomaly meet to finish out the season. He'll world champ.

He'll Olympic champ. That's crazy how that works. But again, even though still the USA basketball team has four quarters, it ain't happening valerie allman won her second consecutive olympic uh discus goal becoming the first u.s woman in the history to accomplish back-to-back goals she won by almost two meters 69.50 meters or 221.184 feet. The best of the field by nearly two meters. She's unbelievable. Tremendous technique.

She was a former dancer. So obviously her feet are very good. The rotation, she gets great spin. She gets great elevation on the disc. She's sensational. She's sensational. And she looked like

she was pirouetting up there. Like it's just like so graceful, so beautiful. And the disc just so effortlessly flies out of her hand. I was able to watch that. Matter of fact, when I saw it, when she threw the last one before winning gold, when she threw it, it was

veering off to the left. I was like, well, goddamn, it looked like it's going off the field, but I forgot the feel. It widens out. So regardless of which way it goes, it'll still be in. I think the man's discus, I think the guy from Lithuania, Lekna, his dad was the former world record holder, won the gold medal.

His dad won in 2004. He's the world record holder, and I think he just set the Olympic record at this year's Olympic. A discus? In the disc. A shot. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Ryan Krause won the shot. A letna. Isn't he from Lithuania? Where is he from? Greece? That was Krause's second goal, wasn't it? Second? Second or third?

Third. Yeah, third. Yeah. He won Rio, Tokyo, and now Paris. I should have been a shot putter, man. Man, you ain't throwing

that 16-pound ball. Oh, it's 16 pounds? Yeah. Yeah, I could throw that by 75, 75, 80 yards. Yards or feet? No, yards

with the right technique. No, you ain't got thatards of feet. No, yards with the right technique. No, you ain't got that kind of technique. Man, if I could spin when I was spinning? Yeah. That's the spin. There are some shot partners that still glide. No, you got a glide technique. I see where you already standing.

You got to glide. Oh, no. I'm going to spin with it. No, you got to turn your back to the camera. No, I got a different type of technique. They give me twerk. So I get some more twerk. Yes.

No. Hey, Ocho. Ocho, you gotta put... Okay, you got your hair here? Yeah, it's here. You gotta put this hand up. Now turn around. Yes.

Yeah. See, that's exactly what's gonna happen see there you go because I ain't got no I got my socks on I know don't worry about it hey I got and you see you see the technique in the form though yeah see that's the glide but if you watch Ryan he's so he gets so such great elevation on the on the shot

right when he took that chalked up when he put that 16 pound metal ball up under here yeah that's a lot of torque that's a 300 pound man that's six foot five six foot six maybe even six seven so just imagine in that little circle he has to put that ball up under there, rotate, and he normally tries to end it on his first throw. Once he gets that first throw in, now he can relax. And now he's going for world records. Now he's trying to put a 76, 77-foot throw out there.

I don't know how much farther he can take it because I didn't think anybody was going to break Randy Barnes' record at 75-10 that he set in 88 and I think it was in Sacramento. I remember he broke Ulf Timmerman's record, the great German. I didn't think anybody was going to get 75-10 because really nobody had been close.

And then you see Krauser starts knocking on the door. You're like, could he? Could he? And he did. Yeah. And he obliterated the record i ain't nothing he just broke it he shattered the record the united states women's national team punched their ticket to the gold medal round forward sophie smith scored in the first uh first half of the extra time to lift the united states women team to a one nothing victory remember if i'm not mistaken i think they beat the german team 4-1 in the first round.

Nine days ago, yeah. To place the Olympic gold medal game for the first time since 2012. It will play Brazil, which upset Spain in the reigning women's World Cup champions with a dominant 4-2 win. Is Marta still playing? Yep, she playing. She playing. She still there. She got suspended.

But she got suspended. Is she going to be suspended for well for us? No, she playing that game. So is she suspended against us too? Or was she suspended the game before and spain she was i think she come back our game okay okay okay all right she's back against us ojo congratulations women uh back uh for the first time since 2012 that That's a long time.

We normally dominate. Yeah, dominating that. But you know, a lot of our best players, Megan Rapinoe, Julie Fowdy, all those, what's the, Megan, what's the other one? University of Florida? Soccer player. The one that just retired. Alex Morgan.

Alex Morgan, yeah. The tight end's wife. She retired. Ertz. Is it Jackie Ertz? Julie Ertz. A lot of them, you know. Yeah, a lot of them, Ocho, you know, some, you know, having families now.

Some of them, you know, Megan Rapinoe retired. Julie Fowler has been gone, but I forget the other one. She went to the University of Florida. And so now this new young blood a new crop knows what is hey the expectations yeah you're the you're the women this is not the man where there's not a whole lot of expectation and you know they're not expecting the men to beat argentina or spain or portugal or france or anything they're not expecting that but the women if you come back with anything less than gold,

we're disappointed. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. We're disappointed. Most definitely. Be a ham and all them girls, they got us small. We got us small.

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