Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Team USA beats South Sudan, Simone Biles vs. MyKayla Skinner
Episode Date: August 1, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to all the latest from the 2024 Paris Olympics, including Team USA's men's basketball team cruising past South Sudan behind standout performances from... Kevin Durant, Bam Adebayo, and Derrick White, Simone Biles collecting gold medals in women's gymnastics while beefing with MyKayla Skinner.03:40 - Show Starts17:04 - Team USA Beats South Sudan26:54 - USA Gymnastics Beef40:00 - Brazilian Swimmer Sent Home50:31 - Katie Ledecky57:00 - Sherica Jackson to only do 200m01:05:40 - Hassan will attempt the 5k, 10k, marathon triple01:07:40 - Nigerian Athletic Federation under fire(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Okay, we got to talk.
Ocho, you and I, I think it was Monday.
Yeah.
Was it Monday?
I think, was it Monday?
Was it Monday or Sunday?
It was Monday.
It was Monday.
Okay.
Okay.
Sunday.
It was Sunday, Ocho.
It was Sunday.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
Because we were looking at the discrepancy between some countries playing where they pay gold medal
recipients and what the U.S.
pays and you and I was like
man that's a damn shame
you and I listed
because track
and field is our favorite Olympic event
we listed
we listed I said
Noah Lyles, Sha'Carri
Richards, or Rob Benjamin Sidney McLaughlin listed we listed I said no allows Sha'Carri Richards
Rob Benjamin, Sidney McLaughlin
if you win gold
I got 25,000
Ocho you then said
I'll match that I got 25,000
I'ma match it
then later in the thing I said
you know what I like Grant Holloway he and I
kind of DM you know
I'm congratulating him on being world champion three times.
So he and I kind of going,
been going back and forth over the years,
not recently,
but over the years.
Hey,
thanks for the support.
I really love what you guys do.
And I say,
and I threw in Grant Holloway.
I said,
Grant Holloway wins gold medal.
I got 25,000 for him.
Somehow,
a lot of news articles said Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco Johnson and Shannon
Sharp said they'll pay twenty five thousand for any American that wins gold when that's
not what we said.
So they took what we said out of context without listening.
That's why sometimes when you read, you got a proofread and use one finger.
Yes.
Like,
like when I read a lot of times,
when I read on show,
I'm using my finger.
I'll make sure I'm going.
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Yeah.
That's what we say.
I did say any American that sets a world record,
I got 50 bands.
I said any American.
Hey, weightlifting, I don't care what it is,
running a band, whatever the case may be.
Yes, sir.
I'm coming out of my pocket with all of it anyway.
We are coming out of our own pocket.
This is not, we ain't got no sponsor saying,
okay,
y'all do this.
And yet we're going to funnel the money through y'all.
That's not what we're doing.
This is our own money.
And if five Americans hit world records,
okay,
obviously they're going to get gold.
So they're going to get 75,000,
whatever,
five times 75.
Yes.
That's what we said.
I don't know where the confusion,
I don't think what, what, what I can, what, uh, uh, That's what we said. I don't know where the confusion. I don't think what what what I can what what what what what's being what's being what's want to hear. Sometimes when you say things, people hear what they want to hear and then make it bigger than what it really is instead of listening to the facts in which you had stated. But go ahead. I'm gonna let you finish. that was the case why even why why even throw out any names because clearly they're not the only
americans that's in track and field we took 591 athletes yes sir so clearly there there are more
than just track and field athletes there's table tennis there's badminton there's shooting there's
the triathlon there's a marathon there's so many events we specifically named the ones and we got
some flack because people said those athletes have endorsements uh oh joe so why y'all doing
that for them my retort was look those are my favorite events the world's fastest man
the world's fastest woman woman yes because i've kind of been going back and forth with the Jamaicans.
Now, we found out today, Sharika Jackson pulled out of the 100 meters.
She's still in the 200 meters.
Right.
We're going to talk about that.
But that's what I said.
We said, that's what I said.
We said, I said 25,000 for four people.
I later came back and added Grant Holloway.
You said, oh, I'll match it.
Yeah.
I said, cool, fine.
And then I wake up.
Then I said, Ash, do you see this?
Ash said, what?
I said, they're saying we're going to pay $25,000 for any American that wins the gold medal.
That wasn't what we said.
I said that any American that breaks a world record, I'll run you 50 bands.
Now, this is the thing.
Now, this is the thing.
If any one of our last names happen to be Bezos or happen to be Gates or Slim, for that matter, then I'm talking about Carlos Slim. Carlos Slim, yeah. I know who you're talking about.
Then,
if we have 591 athletes,
as generous as I am,
as generous as Unc is,
and you know,
I don't spend no money,
so you know I'm not playing when it comes to the business
of those that are representing
our country.
Then,
hell, if we got 591 athletes,
anybody getting gold,
I definitely,
you think the pot would be 25?
I got 100 pounds
on top of what you get.
Oh, man.
Boy, listen.
What? God knew what he was doing, not blessing me with what you get. Oh, man. Boy, listen. What?
God knew what he was doing, not blessing me with that kind of money like Bedros and Gates.
Because everybody that won gold at USA, I would have made the goddamn bonus.
I would have made it a million.
That would have been nothing.
Right.
So that's where we are.
Sorry for any confusion on your part.
I said any American that breaks a world record, I'll run you 50 bands, regardless of the event.
Ocho and I said we'll pay $25,000.
We named the athletes.
Go back and listen to the footage and see what we said. So, I want to
apologize for any confusion on my
part, on Ocho's part,
or what you thought you may have heard.
We ain't trying to duck nothing.
Yeah. Like I said,
if five, if ten Americans
set world records,
that's $500,000 that's coming out of my pocket
plus the gold
and track. No, no, my pocket plus the gold and track.
No, no, no, no.
No, any American,
I'm going to run you your money.
Yeah, I like it.
The fact,
you shouldn't even have to apologize. You shouldn't have
to apologize because you said
what you said.
Simone broke a record. I didn't say
for breaking a record. I said, a world record.
Yes.
She doesn't have the most metal.
She doesn't have the most Olympic medal.
Latissa Latina does.
Man.
Look,
I'm not going back and forth with y'all.
Y'all not going to tell me how to spend my money.
Okay.
Oh,
come on.
Joe.
And I said,
track and field.
Okay.
Y'all look,
y'all pick y'all event.
And y'all say whatever,
whatever athlete,
whether,
whatever the case may be,
boxing,
wrestling, Taekwondo, judo, Greco-Roman wrestling, freestyle.
Y'all say, you know what?
I got an extra $1,000.
I got an extra $2,500.
I'm not going to go back and forth with y'all.
I know what I said.
I'm going to stand by what I said.
Sha'Carri Richardson.
Sha'Carri.
Noah Lyles. Noah Lyles.
Sidney McLaughlin.
Who else did we say?
Ryan Benjamin, Grant Holloway.
Those are the five.
You win gold, I'm going to run you $25,000.
One of you guys hit the world record, I'm going to send you $75,000.
Ochoa going to run you, so that's $100,000 on top of the gold medal
plus what the U.S. is going to give you for winning gold.
That's where we are right now. I'm ready
to go back and forth with y'all.
The funny thing is the fact that we're doing
something good out of the graciousness
of our heart, you know, out of our
hard-earned money. You know, this ain't no free money.
Money ain't growing off trees now. You know, I
got 50, 11 goddamn kids I got to take
care of. I got a missus I got to take care of.
And they turned it into a negative
when we just trying to show
love because we don't think
the U.S. set a precedent
on representing our country
and being compensated in a manner
that represents us in general.
That's all. That's all,
baby.
Because here's the thing, Ocho,
you know how it is. No
good deed goes unpunished. Yes, sir. No good deed goes, you thing, Ocho, you know how it is. No good deed goes unpunished.
Yes, sir.
No good deed goes, you know, moving forward, you know what we're going to do, Ocho?
Yes, sir.
That's on me.
Because I should have handled it like I handle all the stuff.
Anything I do, you never hear about it.
Because the one thing that I always ask the organization in which I give to, the school I give to or the foundation that I
give to you could never say where this money came from I should have kept my damn mouth shut we
could we could have had this conversation offline Ocho Ocho you know what if Rob Benjamin wins if
Sidney McLaughlin wins if Noah Liza security or Grant Holloway let's come together let's give
them 50 an extra 55 if they want to mention something about it, I would
prefer y'all don't mention anything about it.
But hey, if you want to mention it, that's
on you. That's what we should, that's on me
Ocho, because I'm very, very private
in that aspect. I do give
you don't do anything for your community.
You don't know what I do because they're
under strict instructions not
to tell because I don't do things
for you to, oh man, you see what
Shannon Sharp did? You see what Ong did? That's not
why I did. Yeah.
I mean, we got caught in the moment though. We got
caught in the moment and talking about
the topic on what we were getting
compared to other countries. So in the
moment of everything, then that's what we
decided to do. That's all.
So there's no fault in that and there's no reason
to apologize, but doing something good out the graciousness of our heart based on what we saw in that moment. She broke the world record. I would have gotten her information. I have an outstanding agency.
I'm represented by WME.
I guarantee you they could have got Kayla Decker's information.
Kayla Decker would have gotten her money.
Anybody, any American in any event, you break a world record, I'm going to run you your money.
It's really that simple.
But the five people that we mentioned, if you win gold, Ochoa and I got $ i got 50 000 combined for you that's the end of
that i'm not going to discuss it anymore i know what i said i know what i ocho i know what you
said i know what we were trying to do but like i said no good deed goes unpunished ocho let's move
it along well you better than me because I wouldn't explain nothing.
You better than me.
I wouldn't explain nothing.
Shit.
I like to.
You know what? Because sometimes I know
because I know what I said. Well, if that was
the case, why the hell did we list track
and field? Why did we call out?
Why didn't I say Ryan Krauser?
Why didn't I say Valerie Ullman why did I say Bryce Hopper
why did I name anybody else
why did I say
Emma Hall
why did I say
why did I say
I didn't say Kenny Bannera
I didn't say
Gabby Thomas
we said specific
names for a reason I didn't say Gabby Thomas. I didn't say any. We say specific names for a reason.
They hear what they want.
I didn't say Caleb Dressel.
I didn't say Caleb Ledecky.
So if that's the case,
why are we saying?
Why are we calling out specific names?
It's like you're in a classroom.
You're not supposed to blurt out the answer.
You're supposed to, when you raise your hand, the teacher calls your name. If she calls your name, she's talking to you're in a classroom. You're not supposed to blurt out the answer. You're supposed to, when you raise your hand,
the teacher calls your name.
If she calls your name, she's talking to you.
Yes, sir.
Unless there's more.
I mean, I was in a classroom.
We had three Rickys.
So, you know, she had to be Ricky this,
Ricky that, Ricky this.
But, man, I'm moving on.
Oh, so let's move on.
I'm hype.
Team USA beat South Sudan 103-86.
Jason Tatum started.
After not playing in the game against Serbia, he had four points.
Joel Embiid, who started against Serbia, did not play at all.
Bam, bada, bam, bada, bam, was the U.S. high score with 16 points.
Excuse me.
LeBron James finished with 12 points,
seven rebounds, and five assists.
He became the third player in U.S. history
to score over 300 points
for the national team in his career,
joining KD and Kevin Durant.
Steph Curry struggles from the floor.
He was one of nine from the field,
scored just three points,
and he missed all six of his three-point tries.
Ocho.
What happened? What's up?
He could have to do a better job.
How you go, okay.
You don't play Jason Tatum none, you're starting.
Joel Embiid start, and now this game, you don't play him none.
Can we find a balance, Ocho?
I think the balance is, you got to think about this, Unc.
So Jason Tatum didn't play, right?
Right.
Think about Embiid, his knees.
He might be still a little injured, might be a little hobbled.
He started last game, okay, sitting in this game.
The bench is so strong.
We talk about we have the best players in the USA playing on this team.
Sometimes you can sit and you can pick up the production from other places.
KD didn't play fairly well. Steph Curry didn't
play fairly well, but everyone else around
him did. Katie had
14 points. He was 2 of 5.
He wasn't scorching hot, but he was 2 of 2
from the free-throw line. He was 8 of 9
from the free-throw line. That's where the points
came from. Yeah. So he had 14.
They got 18 points
from Bam off the bench.
They got 13 points from Ant-Man off the bench. They got 10 points from Bam off the bench. They got 13 points from Ant-Man off the bench.
They got 10 points.
Man, Derek White was three for three from the three-point line.
They got 10 points from him off the bench.
Devin Booker chipped in with 10.
LeBron James chipped in with 10.
Anthony Davis had eight.
So, look.
It's coming from everywhere, though.
You're getting points from everybody. Everybody's putting putting in there isn't anybody dominating the game week in and week
out when they do play that i think that's the great thing and the exciting thing about this
team is you don't know who's going to have the hot hand even if a person doesn't have the hot hand
everybody's scoring and contributing in their own way i think are we going to talk about jason tatum
when he said look I won the championship.
I got a $300 million contract.
I'm going to cover 2K Sports Illustrated.
He said, yeah, it was very humbling.
Oh.
He said it was very humbling.
Talking about not playing an entire.
Right.
Ocho.
You mean, think about it, Ocho.
Yeah.
I'll give you a prime example.
Walter Payton.
Rest his soul.
Walter Payton was so upset
because on the one-yard line,
think about all the years
when all they had
was Walter Payton.
You get the ball on the one-yard line
and you turn around
and you bring a refrigerator pair in the game
and you don't let Walter Pay Refrigerator Perry in the game,
and you don't let Walter Payton.
How many times have you seen Walter Payton go over the top, Ocho?
Every time.
And you throw, he should be, oh, they won.
What?
Yeah.
That's Walter Payton. He ain't getting out of the top two or three of greatest running backs ever.
And nobody really saw this coming in the early 70s
because when they were lean years
and they really had nothing,
he was the best player.
And he was the best,
one of the best players in the NFL.
And you mean to tell me,
and you know this is it for him.
He's at the end of the line, Ocho.
Yes, sir.
You're not going to get that man
that ball at the one yard line, Ocho.
Hell, shoot.
We got another.
We got another example of that.
Now, I'm not sure if it's a humbling experience, but hell, it cost a team a Super Bowl on the
one yard line.
Thank you.
Over there in Seattle.
I'm not sure who made that call, but if I was Russell Wilson, I would have had two Super
Bowls and I would have overrode the call that came in to throw that ball on that switch
release.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
I'm at the line of scrimmage with the game on the line.
I'm giving it to the beast. I. Oh, no. I'm at the line of scrimmage with the game on the line. I'm giving it to
the beast.
I'm giving it to. I'm handing it off
to Marshawn Lynch.
I'm pointing
to my head and saying, I can't hear what you call.
Come on, man.
It sounds like booger to me.
Super Bowl on the line.
Switch release on the one-yard line.
There's not even any room to run the play oh joe
you know brandon browner yeah once you see brandon browner in a press position
it's over play is off it's over it's off because the whole objective is for him to run interference
once he can't run interference mal Malcolm Butler got a beeline.
See, once Malcolm Butler doesn't have to bubble, it's over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just like when you try to run a pick.
What you try to do, don't say pick, rub.
When you try to run a rub, right, Ocho, you're trying to make the guy bubble.
If the guy can jetcho, you're trying to make the guy bubble. But if the guy
can jet it, you're done.
You've got to be able to
push the guy to make him go over the top.
Once he ain't got to go over the
top, and he can jet that,
he can come up underneath it.
Once I look at this and I look at the
slide, I'm like, oh, hell, we done.
Because Brandon Brown, you know
he's going to press, and he's going to hold, and they're going to let you hold
because he inside the five-yard margin.
So even if he's holding like he normally does,
they ain't going to call it.
Uh-uh.
Not in that situation.
So people, you got to, oh, I'm telling you, guys,
a lot of times when Ocho and I talk about certain things,
we're talking about through personal experience. We're talking
about guys that played at an extremely high level.
Ocho is a multiple-time All-Pro,
a multiple-time Pro Bowl player.
Myself, I'm a multiple-time
All-Pro, a multiple-time
Pro Bowl
player. I'm in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
I'm a first-team All-Decade player.
I'm not telling you something. I'm telling
you, I
know how I would have felt.
And these guys that I'm talking about,
they're greater and more accomplished than I.
The greater
the person,
the more pride he or she has.
I'm not telling you what somebody
told me. I'm telling you what I know.
I've spoken
to a lot of guys
that have a lot more cachet,
has more Pro Bowls
and All Pros, and are greater than
Shannon Sharp could have ever
been. And I'm telling you,
they never say stuff
publicly, but I'm telling you what they've shared.
I'm telling you
guys, that bothered Jason Tatum
for you to say, oh, all he wants to do is win
what
y'all really believe that no y'all don't
y'all just want to go against what Ocho and I say
that's what y'all do y'all don't believe
that
just like Marshawn Lynch he was hurt
he's like hold on I done ran y'all ass
down here y'all been giving it to me
and now we won y'all
not to say Tom brady does get
the ball last ocho ain't no guarantee but put him in a situation where he gotta go get a touchdown
to beat you he gonna get he gonna get he gonna get it okay i want to see him get it i tell you
what did not what's not gonna happen we're not gonna lose lose the game with Tom Brady on the sideline. How about that?
How about that, Ochoa?
If I lose the game with Tom Brady on the field,
hell, he done did it to so many other people.
But there have been very few times
that you've seen New England Patriots win a game
in which Tom Brady wasn't on the field.
Or he did
something to put them in position.
Yeah, we've seen Adam Benatary kick those two field goals against St.
Louis and against Carolina. We've seen him do that.
We've seen him put Gostkowski in situation.
But normally Brady has had some hand in it.
In it. When he didn't have a position to kick that field goal.
That's crazy, man. That's crazy.
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So, Ocho,
we got some beef with the United States gymnastics after winning yet another
Olympic gold medal team USA
women's gymnastic on Tuesday Simone
Biles called out her 2021
Olympic team weight on her Instagram captioning
her post with lack of
talent lazy Olympic
champion this stems from
Michaela Skinner criticizing the new roster of American women's gymnasts, specifically calling out their lack of talent and work ethic.
Let's listen to what she had to say.
Okay.
But besides Simone, I feel like the talent and the depth just isn't like what it used to be.
I just noticed, like, I mean, obviously a lot of girls don't work as hard. The girls just don't like what it used to be just notice like I mean obviously a lot of girls
don't work as hard the girls just don't have the work ethic like and it's hard too because it's
safe sport like coaches can't get on athletes and they have to be really careful what they say
which in some ways is really good but at the same time to get to where you need to be in gymnastics
you do have to be I feel like a little aggressive and a little intense because I feel like you know
Russia is not going to be there so they don't have to have the stress feel like, a little aggressive and a little intense because I feel like, you know, Russia is not going to be there.
So they don't have to have the stress of Russia.
And then what other teams really are there?
I mean, there's a lot of teams that have gotten better and have gotten stronger.
But I feel like no matter what, as long as we do a decent job, we'll be fine.
Even just some of the other girls that fell twice and still ending up in second place
in the all-around is just kind of crazy to me.
Is it Haisley or Hesley?
Hesley.
I mean...
Oh, she blocked them.
Yeah.
Hey, listen.
There was no need for that.
There was no need for that. The young ladies
that they took to the Olympics
was the best that they
had all right maybe it is a little different maybe you can't coach as hard as you want to
anymore in order to get there you got to have some type of work ethic or you wouldn't even be
a part of the goddamn team especially in gymnastics oh joe hold on so how did she how did
mckayla uh uh think that simone was gonna that's a teammate oh joe yeah
our teammates might be dead ass wrong bro you wrong but outwardly we're gonna support you
not fit to talk about oh man nightcap man oh joe you're not fit to talk about oh joe that's my
partner yeah yeah what kind of boy what kind of boy job is that? So she thought, even, now think about it. She said outside of Simone.
But Simone's like, no, ain't no outside.
We're the USA women's gymnastic team.
You know what it's saying?
It didn't say anything about the United States Simone Biles.
They said the United States gymnastics team,
which means Charles and Lee and all those young ladies,
they're a part of the team.
So she took it as a
slight to say, well, hold on.
You're criticizing my teammates.
Yeah, most definitely.
And you didn't even have to say that publicly.
You didn't even have to make that.
You didn't have to make that. There was no need
for that. If anything, constructive
criticism. If anything, how about support?
So think about what she did. Oh, joe she since deleted the video from youtube but she had time to block simone so you ain't you
so you took time so you have a lot of time on your hand today miss skinner yeah uh you took time
you're like uh let me delete that she probably got how many views did she have with that thing
at the time of delete we won't know now because she deleted it. But I'm sure she had
because everybody was talking reckless about
Simone Biles. Oh, she
quit. Oh, she this.
She was trending. They were talking about the woman's
hair. How do you think?
Listen, it opens up.
When you do something like that, it opens up a whole other
can of worms that has nothing to do with gymnastics
in general and what they're doing out there in Paris.
But let me ask you a question, Ocho. I'm going
to give you one guess. Who do you think
was making comments about Simone Biles' hair?
Man, who else?
Yeah, you know, I'm not
into baiting, but who else? You know who.
So what, she's supposed to go out there
with a full lace front? That thing ain't that.
Come on, man. Come on, people!
So y'all want to have a knife?
Y'all want to have some what they call them French manicure
French nails right right right
how the hell she gonna do all that tumbling hold on
to that bar come on
do all that flipping with
a full set of nails yeah
and a lace front
the first time she hit that the first time
she hit one of the flips that thing gonna go
one of the judges head
we need to stop man the first time she hit one of the flips, that thing gonna go into one of the judges' heads.
Man, we need to stop,
man. We need to stop fighting folks,
especially with our old man.
I mean, she's the best.
She's the best.
You can make a case that she might be the best gymnast, male or female,
in the history of the game. She's American.
She's African-American,
Black-American, whatever you want to call it.
She has an unbelievable story
putting a foster care
because her mom was dealing
with some issues
adopted by her paternal grandparents.
Man, that took all of...
Man, it was amazing.
She has an amazing story.
Yeah.
And so, you know what?
This is our opportunity.
Let's talk about her here.
Man, look at that hairstyle.
Really?
Really? That's where we are? You know, one thing they're gonna do whoever's at the top they gonna nitpick now you know they're gonna they're gonna find something they're gonna always find
something no matter what what no matter what that's why that's why her even coming out with
a video like that and not understanding the ramifications and the consequences of what she
was doing chastising everybody you know they, they're going to talk about it.
They said the same thing about Gabby
Douglas when she
won. Was that in 2012?
The nickname of the flying
squirrel. They talked about, oh, she couldn't.
Bro, do
y'all realize in sports, especially
a sport like that,
man, the women try. They're going
out there. Y'all don't say nothing about guys.
Y'all don't be telling the guys to get their hair done.
Let the women compete.
And then when she wants to go out with
I don't know if Gabby Douglas is mad,
but when Simone goes
out with her husband and they
step out, I'm sure her hair
is laid.
She would have probably spent three, four hours at the
hairdresser.
Is that what they still call them, hairdressers?
I'm showing my age, Ocho.
Hair salon, hair salon, hair salon.
I'm showing my age, Ocho.
The hair salon.
Ocho, let me tell you a story, Ocho.
Yes, sir.
You know, I'm busy.
I'm in Vegas last couple of weeks and seeing if I like it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, time out, Ocho. Yes, sir. You know, I'm busy. I'm in Vegas last couple of weeks and seeing if I like it.
Thinking about moving here.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Time out, time out, time out.
You done started off a story and breaking news that you were?
No, I'm in Vegas.
I ain't here yet, but I'm seeing if I'm going to like it.
So why you ain't, I couldn't get an invite to Vegas?
I like Vegas.
I mean, since I've been here in the three weeks that I've been here
trying to figure out whether I'm going to like it,
the average temperature has been between 105 and 120.
Okay.
I like the heat.
I like the sun.
I like the tan.
It doesn't bother me because when I go outside, I got on my hoodie.
You know, I got on my long sleeves, and everybody's looking at me like I'm crazy.
So, you know, I need to get my nails done.
I got something going on tomorrow. I got to shoot a commercial. So, I say, Ocho, you know, I need to get my nails done. I got something going on tomorrow.
I got to shoot a commercial.
So I say, you know what?
I'm going to go get my nails done.
I'm going to get my nails done.
So I say, you know what?
I'm going to go in this little Asian shop.
Ain't nobody going to know me.
It's probably about 530 in the afternoon.
Ain't nobody.
So I go in there.
I said, I'd like to get a manicure and pedicure.
They said, it'd be 20 minutes.
I was like, nah, I'm good.
So I get to the car.
And Ocho, remember I told you I try to work on patience.
That's one thing.
And I'm starting to drive off.
And the thing said, Shanna, walk-in appointments are welcome.
They didn't say you was going to walk your black ass in
and sit right in the chair.
I cut the car off.
I go back inside.
I said, ma'am, I'll wait.
I said, ma'am, I'll wait 20 minutes.
There we go. OK, there we go. Ocho. About five minutes later, the lady comes whisper to me.
You from the TV. I say, excuse me, ma'am.
Ocho. I said, excuse me, ma'am. Hold on. Let me let me let me let me put things into perspective. You in an Asian spot, right?
Asian nail salon, yes.
Hey, well, you know you're famous now, boy.
Go ahead.
So she comes and she say, you from the TV.
Yeah.
I said, excuse me, ma'am?
She say, I see you on TV.
I know you.
OK.
I say, damn.
Ocho.
So like two, three minutes later, the other five come.
They pull their phone out.
They done Googled me.
They done pulled me up.
Yeah.
Ocho, by the end of the thing, I'm taking videos.
I'm taking pictures.
I'm talking.
Pictures.
Oh, yeah, you good, man.
You good.
So now anytime you go there, anytime you go there, you good.
If there is a line, if there is a wait, guess what?
You ain't got to wait no more.
And so the lady that did me,
because normally, I mean, and they did it.
She did a great job.
Her name, her American name,
because obviously she got one of those Asian names
that's probably like 15, 17, 18, 20 letters long.
She said my name. She said,
Maria. Hey!
Hi. How you doing?
I'm good. I'm a little track runner from
Kentucky. Oh, okay.
So the one that did
my nails, she said
no
good English. So I
saw her. I said, that's perfect.
Thank you. But I said, that's perfect. Thank you.
But she,
but you say,
my name Maria.
Okay.
I said, how your name Maria?
You talking about you don't speak your name Maria.
So she got a,
she got a car,
a work car at the back of the thing.
Man, that thing got,
got V H V U.
I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know what a real name is.
But don't try to believe that.
Man, I just put my head down.
That lady came over to me.
I'm just sitting down.
And she said, you from the TV.
I said.
Hey, listen.
Listen, that's a testament now.
That's a testament to the hard work and everything you put in.
And the visibility, the exposure.
And you crossing over.
To be able to go into an Asian
establishment and everyone recognize
who you are, man, shit.
I wish, hey, now
you can go to Korea. Remember
you on that globe?
Hey, you can go to Korea because they know who you
are. So, Ocho, I'm getting gas
and the lady
drive, you know, one of these vehicles, they
help like the elderly or the disabled
people they go around and pick them up take them to their appointments where they have a doctor's
or something like that so i'm pumping gas i got my head down she's like hey can i take a picture
i say yeah how'd you she said i just watched you and ocho the other night on on yeah
wait wait what what age group we talk about you think what age she's probably she's probably in watch you and Ocho the other night on night. Yeah.
Wait, wait,
what age group we talk about, you think?
What age group we talk about? She probably, she's probably in a, she's in her late 20s. She was in her
late 20s. Okay, okay, okay.
They be, they be watching.
They be watching. Hey, I be going through, I be going
to the airport. I'm talking about every age
group. Senior, I don't, I hate saying
senior citizens, but I'm talking about 65, 70.
Oh yeah, for sure. You know, listen, the younger folks locked in. Our NFL, group senior i don't i hate saying senior citizens but i'm talking about 65 70 oh yeah you know you
know listen the younger folks locked in our nfl uh nfl colleagues the younger generation yeah oh
they all like hey they locked down yeah locked in the uh on on the airplane i i i flew frontier
i could tell you this i flew frontier because it was it was inexpensive i was going to cleveland
i would just turn it was the turnaround 40 the only problem with frontier they can't compete with spirit because they don't have wi-fi but anyway
it was a great experience but don't do that hey but listen all the flight attendants the pilot
well we like you and all oh everybody is watching and this is isn't this ain't just black folk we
talk about every demographic yes every demographic and i'm like you know what we doing something we doing something right we doing something right yeah everybody tuned in because i
told you when i when um ash and i we went with the first trip to new york the pilot got the pilot you
know the pilots normally sit the pilot got he beat the us up it's about what go with lobster
the pilot you know the pilots normally stay seated,
let everybody else get off.
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They got you pulled up, yeah.
Hey, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Did you get any phone number?
There ain't no phone number, man.
You ain't never dated an Asian?
No.
Okay, I'm just checking. I know.
Listen, when you eat a bag of Skittles,
you only pick one color?
Mm-mm.
When you eat a bag of Skittles,
you only pick...
No, you taste the rainbow, right?
Well, ain't nothing...
I mean, you try something different.
I think I'm a little bit too big.
I think I'm my size.
I think I'm a little bit intimidating for it.
They ain't worried about that.
You eat sushi, right?
No.
You don't? Well, you can start.
You can start. That would have been a perfect date,
but go ahead. Okay, Ocho,
check this out. A Brazilian swimmer who
was sent home from Paris for sneaking
out of Athlete's Village with her boyfriend
is considering legal action
against her country's National Federation.
Anna Carolina
Vieira
was allegedly caught trying to leave
the village with her boo, Gabriel Santos,
after Brazil finished 7th
in the 4x1 100-meter
freestyle relay. The pair was
reprimanded by the Brazilian Olympic Committee,
which called their action disrespectful
and aggressively challenging, and took a
radical step of banishing them from
the game.
I mean, hold on.
I have a question.
Yeah.
Gabriel Santos and Carolina.
Yeah.
You know you're going to the Olympics.
Uh-huh.
You understand the focus it takes to represent Brazil, represent your country.
Yes.
You got three weeks.
Y'all already been together.
Yes.
You got three weeks to lock in and focus.
So, for one, I'm going to blame the boyfriend.
I'm going to blame the boyfriend because you already know the importance of why you're there.
Yeah.
And represent your country.
You already came in seventh in a four by one.
So that wasn't good.
So obviously somebody not focused.
You mean you can't take three weeks to sacrifice your relationship to chill, to let her
focus or to let him focus. Matter of fact,
it's her. Let her focus and do
her thing. It's only three weeks. She ain't up there
that long.
You'll be right back together after the Olympics is over.
Man, the Olympic Village probably
overlooking the Eiffel Tower.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just saying.
I mean, listen, they got rules and regulations
that you have to abide by especially with the pressure and the magnitude of the event and what
you're doing and what is going on and who you're representing i can be celibate for three weeks
and focus and lock in i'm gonna see you we a couple. There's no need to be venturing off knowing you're not supposed
to do it.
Come on, man.
That's on her. Or maybe that's on him.
That's on him, matter of fact. But I'm not saying,
baby, listen. Let's focus. Let me let
you lock in. I'm going to always be
here. You got the rest of the year.
Man, you know how it is.
You're like, girl, stop. No.
Stop. Go ahead. No, come on now. Because at that point, if she girl, stop. No, I don't.
Stop.
Go ahead. No, no.
Come on now.
No, because at that point, if she can't focus on that, if she can't focus for three weeks,
three weeks on something as important as representing your country and swimming and locking in,
then she's a liability.
She's a liability.
Or he's a liability.
One of the others.
I'm not telling her.
Ocho.
One of them is a liability. Ocho a liability one or the other for not telling her Ocho Ocho they had done
finish 7th
there was nothing else
it wasn't like
they finished 7th
and they had
and they went
for a little romp
they had done
finish 7th
well you know what
if you finish 7th
nobody should be
having sex anyway
what you reward yourself for
I got to take out my frustration on something.
I'm going to win something.
Hey, hey.
Like the NFL say, I'm leaving with something.
Oh, I'm winning something.
Oh, I'm getting the gold medal.
I better get the gold medal in that.
I bet you that.
Record.
Record time.
The importance of where I'm at, the importance of what I'm doing is bigger than the relationship that I have.
That's going to be there.
That's going to be there.
Oh,
this is every,
this is every four years.
Let me ask you a question.
This is every four years.
You go to the Superbowl.
Y'all lose the game.
And then after the game that night,
you ain't going to do nothing.
You ain't going to shake no covers for a dollar.
Nah,
cause I'm going to be upset about losing the game.
I still need my 24 hours to mourn the loss.
Because I understand how hard it is to get to the Super Bowl.
And if we make it and we don't win, 24-hour rule.
You know about the 24-hour rule.
I'm going to shake the covers for a dollar.
Where the game goes.
Hey, oh, no.
Come on.
You better than me.
Nah, I'd be hot, boy.
I'd be hot.
Listen, I'm not even from Brazil,
and I'm kind of mad that they're not even focused.
And you came in seven.
That alone lets you bet.
You see Carnival. You see.
You know what they look like.
Yeah, oh yeah, I know what they look like. I know what they look like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know what they look like.
I know what they look like.
Ain't none of my business.
You mean you can't lock in for three weeks?
Oh, yeah.
You can't be celibate for three weeks?
What you want me to do?
It obviously isn't over.
So, hold on.
So, you're telling me you want me to wait to get all the way back from Brazil before I shake the covers?
Well, you got to at least wait until the Olympics is over.
The Olympics is over?
My events are over.
Hold on. But then there would be no reason to be
taking legal action against the Federation if your
events is over. Obviously, she would still be there.
Hold on.
Do they got anything? Would they have any more
events scheduled? They had to or they wouldn't
send them home.
That's why she's seeing illegal action.
I know she got
some more events.
See?
Told you.
Now you're not focused.
They done sent your ass home.
She about to swim faster.
Oh, man.
I'm locked in.
You think I'm going to be in, let's say, for example, prime example,
I'm representing the U.S. and I'm on the national swim team for the USA.
And Real come down there.
And I'm in the village.
And Real hit me and say, boy, let's take a stroll.
Let's walk real quick.
And me go off
off matter of fact i ain't doing it matter of fact because of who i'm dealing with she wouldn't even
let me do it yeah for sure but that's on her partner come on man okay you know he don't care
nothing about what she's doing there's a bigger picture a three-week picture they ain't take it
they ain't take that shit serious man what about
she might not want to melt him but she done got a diamond
she ain't got no gold
but she done got a diamond put on him
I bet you that
come on man
I mean listen
different strokes for different folks
but I totally get
what you're saying is that
for that moment I mean you
trained a lifetime
you probably dreamt of this as a child
as a teenager
and for this moment and now you're here
and you mean to tell me you can't set
aside whatever your selfish plans or me you can't set aside whatever your selfish
plans or agenda
you can't set that aside for
a week, two weeks, three weeks?
Come on, man. Come on
now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Child, please. Yeah, for sure.
I mean, look,
when it comes down, that's for me. That's
how I was, Ocho. Hey,
the kids, I mean, Super Bowl,
the girlfriends
handled the kids. My mom,
they came in on Thursday.
I went to see them.
Kids
like, we want to go see daddy.
Mama said, no, here you ain't. You'll see your daddy after this game.
Oh, yeah. Everybody had
my sister, my mom,
my girlfriend. They had already been hey
i done gave them money take the kids to disney because back then we've been said first was in
san diego seaworld right hey y'all go see shamu get them to give them a big ass killer whale
stuffed dolls i'll see y'all after the game right oh yeah oh yeah but my family they already know
they already know how we get that yeah
depending on what you do like you have structure I have structure and I stick to that that structure
and that curriculum of whatever it may be that I'm doing right now I got 39 jobs real nose depending
on what I have going on depending on the day a, you already know what time it is. I'm not doing that. I'm locked in. I'm focused, whether it be nightcap.
If we have a show, if we have a show and there's something that I have to go over, I need to be locked in on the show.
Any horizontal or vertical activity is not happening before or after that show. It's not.
We have a schedule. It's on the refrigerator with sticky notes.
These are the time frames
in which we can engage
and you can mount me.
That's it.
Anything outside of that
is not happening.
Structure and discipline.
Everything else
is going to be there.
So imagine if I was
representing our country
in any field,
track,
swimming,
wrestling,
or imagine me playing for the, you know, the back.
Oh, man, stop playing with me, man.
It took four years.
Four years.
That's the thing.
Every four years.
But here's the thing, Ocho.
And it ain't no guarantee that you're going to get back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
Hey, it ain't no guarantee.
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Katie Ledecky
cruised to a victory earning her first Olympic gold at the Paris Games in the women's 1500 meter freestyle.
Ledecky set an Olympic record with a time of 15 minutes, 30.02 seconds.
She has not lost this race in more than 14 years.
And she now owns the 20 fastest times in world history in the event.
The other participants are basically just swimming for the
silver.
Look, you know
from 2008
to 2016,
if you ran
100 meters on a
global stage,
yeah.
Who got second?
Who got silver? Because you know Bo gonna win
yeah you not beat
him in that prime
pocket years
mhm
same with Michael Phelps
same with Michael Phelps
you already knew based on the races
that he was running alright which one of us
which one of us
is getting silver?
He ain't getting gold.
Had he not
false started in Daegu,
he gonna go
1-2
in the Olympics
in 8-12-16
and he
lost his last one.
He had already said in 2015 after Rio
the world championship was going to be his last
so I don't think he still had that same
quest I think he was like okay
I want to retire a three time
double you know
the 102 I want to win the gold and those
right I don't think he had the same
passion and maybe like that's a
long time
if you really think about it Ocho, no
man had ever, first of all, they don't
normally stay around that long.
Right. I mean you think
Carl won in 84. Carl
got silver. He later was
given the gold because Ben Johnson got called
doping. Right, right. But nobody else
had ever won the 100.
And back to back, nobody
had ever won the 2.
Damn. So
that's why he's the greatest
sprinter. I just, hopefully, I'm
alive so we can have a
discussion at some point in time
that if a sprinter is comparable to him.
Like we have a discussion,
maybe it's Kobe, maybe it's LeBron
when we're talking about Jordan.
I just hope I'm alive.
We can have an honest, serious discussion about a sprinter that's comparable to him.
Because right now, there is none.
There's none.
None.
I mean, somebody's going to challenge his world record.
Not until you break 9-7, you're not.
Nobody's running no 9s. If you you break 9.7, you're not. Nobody's running no 9s.
If you're running 9.7, think about it.
You've got to go sub-9.6.
He's the only guy that's ever been
sub-9.65.
Yeah.
You know what's funny?
I don't think people understand
how fast
they really are moving. I don't think you understand how fast they really are moving.
I don't think you understand.
I think you won't be able to put things in a perspective because watching from TV is one thing.
But watching world-class sprinters come out them goddamn blocks in person and fly by is crazy.
And you look at athletes, you look at NFL players, you look at them run.
That's a different kind of speed.
Some of the faster players in the league.
Even Cheetah, Xavier Worthy, some of the young bulls that can run at an NFL.
And it's not even close, Unc.
It's not even close.
Them boys are being in, like, last last, in the back last compared to the elite athletes that run track.
Cheetah too heavy.
Cheetah would need to lose like 30 pounds.
Yeah.
He too muscle bound.
Yeah.
Because what they try to do,
they try to get stronger without gaining weight.
Because he's going to be as light as possible.
Mm-hmm.
But I'm very fortunate.
To see, I was at the Olympic trials when Michael Johnson won the 400.
He qualified in the 400.
And that was the year that he was going to try to do the double.
And he ended up breaking the world record.
He ran 1966 to break Pietro Mena of Italy's world record of 1972
that had stood since, what, 72, 73?
I think that's when Mena set the record.
But, you know, you're right, Ocho.
You got some things you just have to see for yourself to get a sense of.
Like, I was in Atlanta.
I saw the home run derby.
And to see just how far they hit that baseball.
As a matter of fact, the All-Star game in 2008, Josh Hamilton,
when he hit it out of the old Yankee Stadium.
Yeah.
Wait, out of the stadium?
Out of the old Yankee Stadium.
Anybody, do y'all guys remember that?
Yes, out of the stadium.
Yeah.
To see Bonds and to see so social and see griffey i got an opportunity to see griffey play up close and personal 99 that one of the first time they had interleague play
um they was playing the rockies and so i hey you know me oh joe i go not gonna play i go
knock on the clubhouse door. Got over the door.
He's like, hey, how may I help you?
I said, I want to see, I want to talk to Griffey.
He said, you know, he said, does he know you're coming?
I'm like, nah.
So I guess he went and told him.
Griffey came to the door.
I went in there, talked to him.
As a matter of fact, A-Rod was on the team being.
Okay, okay, okay.
As a matter of fact, I got a bat from both of them.
And I got a jersey from Griffey.
Yeah.
He signed it.
Hey, they was in A-Prime in Seattle, huh?
Seattle, yes, yes.
I got the jersey hanging up in my basement in Atlanta.
A-Rod gave me a bat.
Griffey gave me a bat, if I'm not mistaken, and a jersey.
But I know the jersey is hanging on my wall.
Ocho, you know how they go out there.
They go stretch and take BP. And maybe he
took BP before I got there.
But all I know is that he spent like an hour
talking to me.
I think
he went three for four.
That's live.
Listen, the most beautiful swinging baseball
ever. The most beautiful swinging baseball ever. I've never seen nobody swing that bat like listen the most beautiful swinging baseball ever the most beautiful
swinging baseball ever i've never seen nobody swing that bat like griffin if it's griffin
okay oh joe we got to talk about this jamaica sharika jackson says she's out of the olympic
100 meters jackson says she will still run her better race which is the 200 she's the only woman
of the record holder and the late fl Griffin Jordan to finish under 21 five.
Um,
let's,
so let that sink in.
There's only two women that's ever been sub 21 five.
Flojo's world record is 21 39.
Um,
Jackson said,
it's a combination of things.
I got hurt and me and my coach felt like it was a good decision only to run
one event.
Right.
I think it's a good thing.
You focus on one thing.
Yeah, focus on what you
do best. I mean, that's smart
on their part. Instead of risking injury,
trying to exert so much
energy in one thing
and then be hurt for the other. So why not just
focus on your best one? Now,
when it comes to the 100 meter, I don't mean to
skip topics. When it comes to the 100 meter, the Jamaicans
still have Shelly Ann Frazier.
She's been dealing with some injuries also, Ocho.
Okay.
Yeah.
And she's almost 40.
She's still dangerous.
Oh, yeah, very dangerous.
The mommy rocket is still dangerous.
She still has that get out.
But this is a severe blow to the Jamaican team.
No Elaine Thompson-Hara, no Sharika Jackson.
Because remember, Ocho, they swept 100 meters.
Yeah.
At the Olympics.
They did.
Last time.
Yeah, they did.
And so, and now it does a big blow to their relay team.
Because the question is, is she going to be healthy enough to run the relay right
even if it's only one round
obviously you know you got you that's what you bring
your alternatives for to let them
you know to run and you try to save big
guns because normally they're in the 100 and
the 200 um and
so it's going to be very very interesting
to see what happens but now
she carry is an overwhelming
favorite favorite yeah um yeah they still have a to see what happens. But now Sha'Carri is an overwhelming favorite.
Favorite, yeah.
Yeah, they still have Dina Asher-Smith.
They have Talu.
They have, you know, Kabunga from Switzerland.
You know, they have some women.
What's the, from St. Lucia?
Offred, Julian Offred.
So they have some women.
But if Sha'Carri runs, if Sha'Carri runs her,
if Sha'Carri is Sha'Carri,
can't nobody beat her.
I'm expecting, I believe,
I believe when they start,
she can run sub 10-6.
Because she's like Flojo from 50 in?
Yeah.
Man.
This is the funny part.
When it gets to that final, ifakiri gets a good start because i think that's where she it's over if she gets a good start or it's a wrap because normally
most of the time if you watch her races she comes back and catches the field because she gets the
top speed and then she's able to maintain it right she's able to maintain it because of her strength
on the back end well you got you know god can't give you everything he can't give you same boat christian coleman start
yeah i wouldn't be fair i mean he can't give shakari shelly and frazier price start
because now she's gonna now she's gonna run 10 40 right so i mean he's like okay i will give you a i'm blessed you with speed but damn i can't give
you everything everything yeah so um i'm sorry to hear that for sharika i mean it's tough because i
mean she was you know she was going to be vying for uh um the double you know the hundred and
two hundred gold and you know that's the hundred meter goal has rained jamaica had has surpassed us in sprinting
right but for the longest time it was between us and jamaica right now over the last the last 12
12 14 years it's been jamaica surpassed us now yeah jamaica's had some they had merlin arty and
they've had some women that could run and you know they never but when shellyan Ann and then you had Elaine Thompson and now you got
Eureka and you see what they
dominated the 100 meters and the 200
and then you get Boat
and you had Powell
and you had Blake
now you got Kashane Thompson
you got Obelix Seville
they still got some guys
now
you better with the names of me.
What's the young bull from Jamaica that just ran a 9.7?
Shane Thompson.
Yeah.
Ran 9.77.
Yeah, the trial.
And Obelix Seville, I think he ran like 9.80, 9.80, 9.82,
something like that.
So, no, I got to – but going back, if you go back,
I mean, we haven't won the gold in 100 meters since 2004.
Justin Gatlin won in 2004.
Yeah, when he beat Francis Obekwelu from Portugal, 985 to 986.
And the year before that, Maurice Green won.
Mo.
Mo Green won.
Yeah.
And then Donovan Bailey.
Donovan Bailey won from Canada.
He had the Olympic record he won in the Atlanta Olympics
and then Linford Christie won in 92
yeah
and then obviously you know you had the
doping in Seoul where Ben Johnson was disqualified
and then Carl won
in 84 we swept
if I'm not mistaken I think we swept in 84
with Carl Lewis, Sam Grady, Dada
think about that he won the silver medal he was a wide receiver for the Raiders mistaken. I think we swept in 84 with Carl Lewis, Sam Grady, Dada.
Think about that.
He won the silver medal. He was a wide receiver for the Raiders.
Raiders always had it.
They always had it. In the 92, James
Jett was on the relay team that won the gold medal.
He could run.
Man, them Jokers had
Sam Grady, they had Willie Gault,
they had Mervyn Mervyn Fernandez,
and they had Tim Brown. They had
a four-by-one. Yes!
Who was the quarterback then?
One year
they had Vince.
What's the dude's name? I forget his name.
He's on Chicago Bear. They had Jay Schrader.
Raiders have always
two things. They like guys
that can run, and they like big-arm quarterbacks.
Yeah.
Al always was enamored by speed.
And how many Heisman Trophy winners can he collect?
How many can he collect?
But they had Rocket Ismail.
So the Raiders have always loved speed.
Because, you know, you play DB. The Raiders have always loved speed because you know
you play DB
the Raiders ain't no I mean what we said
what we watching Ocho they gonna be in man coverage
what you watching
it ain't no cover two
it ain't no quarters it ain't no six
it ain't none of that
they gonna be right there in front of you
every time they gonna line up and play
I remember I mean my time during my tenure in the NFL,
they had a great man-to-man corner in Nnamdi.
Yeah.
How do you say Nnamdi last name?
Nnamdi Asamoah.
Asamoah.
He was nice.
I got a chance to play against him once or twice.
That was the quarterback, Ben Seven.
He's with the Bears.
I mean, his great best years came with the Bears.
But also, yeah, they were right there.
Anytime we played the Raiders and we played the Chiefs,
Mike would stand up in the meeting and say,
guys, look, we already know what they're going to do.
He said, if you can't beat man coverage,
I mean, he's looking at me.
He's looking at it.
I don't know what he's looking at me for,
because I just run the ass over.
I throw the ass out the way.
Don't worry about me.
I'm good.
But he's looking at us.
He said, guys, if you can't beat man coverage, there's only two jobs left for you.
Coaching and selling cars.
Yeah.
He said, my coaching staff is filled up.
And John, you hired?
John said, no, I ain't hiring, coach.
Yeah.
Hey, the Chiefs corners back then was tall, right?
When I first got there, they had Albert Lewis and Cameron Rock.
Cameron Rock. They called him Rock. Then they had DC
and they had James Casey.
Yeah, okay.
DC. Them two was nice, boy.
Hey, them two was nice.
So think about it. You got
DT coming off one side. You got
Neil coming off the other side.
Woo! Yeah. Oh, they
used to have a defense. They had big Joe Phillips.
They had Dan Salamore.
They had Deron Cherry.
They had Martin Bayless.
They had Porter.
KP.
Oh, their defense was legit.
Their offense was some trash.
But their defense, oh, boy.
And they used to be, the Chiefs, Arrowhead, used to be turf.
Right. So imagine DT jumping off that turf imagine Neil jumping off that turf
man that thing get me so loud
they start doing up chopping
and they start saying
and they get you backed up and DT do this
y'all want this
he start shaking his head
oh man come on put your hands down
DT man damn
man you getting fired up it was over Ocho day Yeah, he's like, oh, man, come on. Put your hands down, DT, man. Damn. Yeah.
Man, you getting fired up.
It was over, Ocho Day.
Yeah.
You caught hell in that division.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you do now, too, because they got Mahon, boy.
All right, Ocho, check this out.
Yeah.
Can Safan Hassan pull off the legendary Emile Zodipak?
The Dutch distance star will run the 5K, the
10K, and the marathon.
That's an incredible 38.6
miles of racing
over nine days.
The only athlete to ever do that
was the great Czech athlete, Emile
Zodipak. He won the gold in the
5,000, the 10,000, and the
marathon. All three events
in the 1952 games held in helsinki
oh but hey that's that's gonna be tough that's gonna be tough but again almost almost hassan
almost put it off in tokyo almost put it off so he might be able to win that triple crown here in
paris 30 30 30 miles of running in a 9 day stand
I know they got a
cold tub and as long as you have a
cold tub and you eat right
it is possible
but that's going to be an unbelievable feat
she won the 5000 because she
won the 5000 and the 10,000
in the last Olympics and I think
she got like the silver or the bronze medal
in the 1500 because they're going to catch the the silver or the bronze medal in the 1500, because
they're going to catch the dickers to beat Faith Kip Yegon,
the two-time world record holder.
Kip Yegon from
Kenya, she ain't to be messed with.
She's gone for the sub-350.
So, the
1500, unless something unforeseen
happens,
then
Safon win the win the 5,000
and 10,000
in the
rather than the
1,500
so that's a
feat in and of
itself
yeah that's gonna
be a good race
and now she said
you know what
I still want to do
the 5,000
I still want to do
the 10,000
but hey
let's bump that
thing up instead
of 1,500
let's go to
26.2
yeah
she listen she better she better than me Let's bump that thing up. Instead of 1,500, let's go to 26.2. Yeah.
Listen,
she better than me.
Nigerian Athletic Federation is under fire again.
Favor Ophelia was preparing to run
the 100-meter dash in the 2024
Paris Olympics on Friday after
qualifying for the ZEN. However,
a key mistake meant she would not be able
to participate.
Ofile was not entered in the race,
meaning she won't be able to compete alongside two of her fellow Nigerian track stars she announced.
The former LSU standout said the issue stemmed from the Athletic Federation of Nigeria,
the Nigerian Olympic Committee, and the Nigerian Anti-Doping Committee
failing to register her to participate
ofile's next scheduled event is a 200 meter dash she also uh recalled a situation during tokyo
in which 14 athletes from nigeria couldn't participate due to drug testing i don't
understand what's the problem we've been preparing for this for a very long time the committee the
nigeria athletic federation
knows that these athletes are preparing to go and compete why not pay for the drug test
i don't understand where's the confusion
i don't understand where the confusion is i don't know if it was out of out of season testing
or what's going on because they're kind of getting real strict on that, Ocho. Yeah.
I mean, the testing,
the cheats, and I'm not
saying these women are cheating. I'm saying
the cheats have gotten so good,
they microdose, and then, you know,
hey, I can't be here and I can't be there.
You remember, Ocho,
this is before your time, they probably don't do it now.
But when I first got into the league,
if you say, well, hey, Mr. Sharp,
we want to drug test you.
I'm like, well, I'm going on vacation.
They say, okay, just call us when you get back.
Oh, no.
Get back.
Wait a minute.
Before you even finish,
during my time, during my tenure,
if I'm going on vacation
and I got that call
or I got that email,
oh, we need to test you.
Oh, well, I'm not in Miami right now.
I'm in so-and-so.
Oh, don't worry about it.
We'll send a tester to you wherever you are.
Yes.
They can find you and they will get to you no matter where you're traveling in the world to get that sample.
Oh, Joe, I had a guy. So they started, you know, man, guys started having to whiz and they to do darker than me and they got a pink meat.
And so the testers say said hold on somebody right how you got how you how you got how that
thing pink and you dark and then so so guys was having the wizenator they was having a scrap phone
using somebody else somebody else's urine urine yeah so i was living in savannah oh joe they would
have the tester come to Savannah. I would go
to the airport, go in there,
and you know, Ocho, you know, ain't no
they close the door.
They standing over you.
Oh, yeah. Oh, they gonna make sure.
They gonna make sure everything right now.
They making sure your thing, it's your meat that's in that cup.
Yep.
I'm like, bro, give me a little space, bro.
But because guys
have started to get advanced,
they were ordering
urine off the thing,
and they're like, nah, you ain't got no drugs.
You ain't got no PEDs,
but you got the clout.
Yeah.
Listen, the funny thing about doping,
the funny thing about doping is something that I've never done, but I've heard the stories.
I understand what goes on as far as whether it be track.
But listen, any any sport for that matter. And the doping is so far ahead of the testing.
It takes five to 10 years until the testing actually catch up, catches up to where they are right now with the doping.
And then something else comes out and then they're ahead of the
doping, they're ahead of the testing again.
You got to get busted because somebody got to
tell you what they're taking because you don't know.
See, Ocho, if I just tell you,
hey man, go downtown and find that.
What are you looking for?
I got to tell you what you're looking for in order for you to be able to
test it. So it's just like
the clear. Once somebody got
taught and they started running their mouth
now we got we got the actual substance that we can test okay these are the chemicals
now we got a test for it yeah so it's that's what happens somebody has to get popped just like that
big shipment with 40 with with uh 10 tons coming through yeah you're gonna catch that 10 ton
shipment but we got a 30-ton shipment right behind it.
Yeah, always.
Listen, they're going to throw you a layup
every time. Hey, Cho, check this out,
Cho. So to clarify, the Nigerians
failed to release funds for the
athletes to be tested, which
made 14 Nigerian athletes that
qualified to not be able to
compete. So how much
is testing?
Testing can't cost that much. We don't want to that qualified to not be able to compete. So how much is testing? Don't start me to laugh.
Testing can't cost that much
if you don't want to release the funds.
If anything, as an athlete,
you think they could have paid for themselves
unless it's an extraordinary amount of money
just to get tested?
Nah, come on, Ojo.
I mean, why should I have to pay for myself
to get tested?
I'm representing you.
Yeah, I mean, listen, if you had an issue in the
Tokyo Olympics in 2020, as
an athlete, if I'm representing Nigeria
and I understand the issues that always
comes with them when
it comes to the testing and the doping,
honestly, I'm going to make sure
I'm in Paris and I'm competing. I pay
for it out of pocket because I know
they done messed up before four years ago.
Oh, Joe, you saying that
as an American athlete,
you have to understand
a lot of these athletes
are in worse shape
than even American athletes.
Oh, I see where you're going.
I see my bad.
My bad.
They ain't got it like that.
So that's why, you know,
when they win prizes,
when you look at
some of the Kenyans,
when they win prize money,
do you,
when you got a light,
when you can play $8 for electricity
and you can build a home for $20,000
and there's a mansion,
man, can you imagine the prize money
that they, when they win like a marathon
or they win $150,000 or $200,000?
Right, right, okay.
What?
Boy, that's a lot of wives, Ocho.
That's a lot of cattle and sheep.
Yeah, I'm glad you put things into
respect. Yeah, man.
Damn.
Yeah, but that's sad.
I feel bad for
them to have trained
a lot of them to train their entire life.
You know they've been training for at least four years
and through
and they qualified.
That's one thing if they didn't have the qualifying time.
Like, well, you ain't even qualified anyway, so it didn't matter.
You wasn't going to be able to go.
But we've qualified and through
for whatever reason,
I don't want to say neglect or lack
of funding, Ojo, whatever the case may be,
to not be able
to live or fulfill my destiny.
Ugh.
I feel bad for him, man. I feel bad for him.
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