Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Tee Higgins talk, Rodgers historically bad, Bowers breaks rookie TE record

Episode Date: January 1, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 17 of the NFL season including all the latest in Cincinnati Bengals Tee Higgins contract talks, New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers puts up one of the worst games for a QB in NFL history, Las Vegas Raiders TE Brock Bowers now has the most receiving yards for a tight end in his rookie season in NFL history and much more!03:19 - Tee Higgins contract talk07:19 - What kind of tight end is Brock Bowers?10:26 - Who would make a good head coach candidate for the Raiders?14:17 - Unc thinks Jamal Adams should have stayed with the Jets20:00 - Was Aaron Rodgers a part of one of the worst games in NFL history?32:30 - The quarterbacks weren’t the problem with the Panthers35:32 - Brock Bowers sets a rookie record(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your favorite Oak Shannon Sharp. That guy, Liberty City legend. Bengals ring of fame, Autoree. Pro bowler, the all pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. I just read an article today that T. Higgins' market is going to be somewhere a little bit, a little north of $30 million a year on the free

agent market. Yes, sir. Now, look, that's his choice. I think he's saying all the right things and you don't want to come, because you know, Ocho, if he goes, oh, he's selfish. Why he's selfish? Mike Brown done made all that money he ain't paid but a handful of people since he owned the team

you got to talk to him I can't say it no more I mean you can you please tell the people in the chat I'm sure we I'm listen I know we have a lot of Bengal fans in the chat right I know we do can you please tell them the importance of your first contract as a player after you put all the work in to get to this point?

And I know he means well. I know he does. I would love to see him stay. But you've got to say something because I done said it. I don't think people listen to me because they've been arguing me down. My fans that I love, they've been arguing me down based on what I said. Maybe if they hear from you, I don't know, man. Your first contract,

especially T. Higgins was a second-round pick, if I'm not mistaken. Your first contract is what solidifies everything. Now that gives you, if you want to, down the road, Ocho, if you want to take a little less money, or you want to give them a little haircut, now look, when I say give you a haircut, I ain't getting

no damn ball here now. I ain't getting no kojak. That's what you used to call the ball here when I was growing up, Ocho. Hey, the old man going, hey, hey, Green, give me that kojak. That middle ball here. Nah, I ain't getting no ball. Now, if you say, okay,

I'm going to stay. I could go get 30, 31 million as a free agent. Now, you're going, okay, I'm going to stay, I could go get 30, 31 million as a free agent. Now you're going to give me 28, 29. So when I project it out, that's about, okay, I'm going to lose 10 million. I can, you know what Ocho, with a couple of, you know, with a couple of incentives here and there, I do a couple of appearances. I can make that up. But when you tell me on the free agent market, I can get five years, 160 million with 80 million guaranteed.

And what y'all can only get to is 120 million. Oh, hell no. 20. When you start, once you get past 20, 30 million. I can't even hear nothing y'all saying. Yeah. I mean, y'all boo-jiving. I can't give up.

Because here's the thing, Ocho. Yeah. If the networks were to go to the NFL and say, y'all cut us a deal, what you think they're going to say, Ocho? No. They're not getting no deal from the NFL. It's not giving...

Because I don't think y'all understand. Chat, stay with me right here. Do y'all realize that even though ESPN has paid $2.2 billion and Fox has paid $2 billion and all these networks, do you realize, even on playing the $2 billion, the $1.8, the other $2.2 billion,

that in order for ESPN to show video clips, they got to pay for that too? Oh, yeah. 11 minutes of video clips is about two million dollars let that sink in chat listen to me 11 minutes worth of video clips how many video clips do you think espn show in a day right how many do you think they show in a week same for fox same for cbs same for nbc same for Amazon think about that so I just wait hold on it's like Ocho

yes sir I go pay $200,000 for a car you mean to tell me I got to play for the umbrella to come in the car too you can't give me that as a discount god damn yeah I mean listen listen I just I don't understand

and I think about the nature of the business when it comes time to get paid. For one, the teams aren't going to come to you with your best interest in heart or in mind. They're going to lowball you. Of course. They're going to lowball you, you know. I understand. I know the game that they're going to play as much as I love the game of football. But I understand the bidding war.

It's almost like, Ocho, this reminds you of like in Pennsylvania, Montana, Marino, Namath, Kelly, all of them from that little pocket. So many, you know, what's the other boy's name? Rebus from Aliquippa. Tony Dorsett, Aliquippa. I mean, that little small little Pennsylvania, a lot of Hall of Famers came out of there. But this is, I mean, within

120 miles of each other, it'll be interesting. They probably, you know, Chase and Jefferson, they probably know each other before. You know why they know each other? You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Whatever parts of Louisiana they were from, they didn't just start getting good. They've been good.

Yeah. They've been good way back then. Oh, yeah. So, obviously, you know of players in different counties and different cities that are playing well. So, I'm sure they know each other, especially the 7-on-7 stuff when they were coming up was big. And I'm sure they crossed paths in those type of areas and environments.

Chase is going to win the Triple Crown. Jeddah is having an outstanding season. He's over 100 catches. Malik Nabors, he's on pace. Well, the only thing is that he's got Brock Bowers, who needs nine catches to set the single-season record for tight ends. He has four more catches than Malik Nabors. He has 108.

That says a lot, too, man. That says a lot. Like, listen, Brock Bowers was the real deal at Georgia. He was the real deal. I didn't know what he would be in the NFL. We've seen many players. We've seen many players dominate at the college level and then get to the NFL and absolutely

disappear. Brock Bowers is everything is advertised, boy. Everything is advertised. You know why I thought he... Yes, sir. You know why I thought he would be good, Ocho? Because he's not a finesse tight end right he's an old school put his hand in the dirt tight end that's tremendous run after the catch he has

great body control he got great hands can catch the ball in traffic he's good run after the catch now is he gronk is he mark bavaro or some of these big george kittle no no no no he's not bad now i'm not saying he's that but he's a decent and what i tell guys all the time are you more of an asset in the passing game than you're a liability in the run game because if you are you can play you can be special in this league because that's all i'm asking and that's what i told by saying mike i'm gonna be more of an asset than i am a liability now now if you want me to try to hold up against Reggie and Strahan and Bruce, it ain't happening.

So I'm going to go ahead and tell you right now, go ahead and put somebody else in there. And when it comes to passing down, let me go and get my little passing, and I'll come on out. But they ain't going to just wear me out all day long. I'm going to get me a couple of wins now. And so that's the way you got to approach it. But four leading receivers, all within 120 miles of each other.

Chase, Justin, Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, Brian Thomas Jr., and Malik Nabors for good measure. There's been speculation that the Raiders' co-owner, Tom Brady, really liked Brian Flores as a potential head coaching candidate. Flores has done some amazing things with the Vikes. Remember, he was the defensive coordinator when they won the Super Bowl against the Rams, right? In Atlanta?

And then he got the head coaching job at Miami. Okay. He was a linebacker's coach? When did he become the D.C.? He was never the D.C.? Okay. So he was a linebacker's coach. When did he become the D.C.? He was never the D.C.? Okay. So he was a linebacker's coach that got the job, okay, because Patricia was the D.C.

Okay. You like that? You like Brian Flores to be a Vikings? Now, listen, I think Brian Flores and what he was able to do with the Vikings defense, obviously the personnel and the talent and skill level may be a little different, a little bit more upside when it comes to the Vikings defense,

but I think it would be good. I think he'd be a good fit. I don't like the fact that they're firing or getting rid of AP when AP hasn't had a chance because he's been going through a goddamn quarterback carousel and a goddamn merry-go-round of quarterbacks, so it's hard to be able to, again, I say it all

the time, you can't compete unless you got a quarterback. You can't. None. Zero. Zero chance. He hasn't had a chance or opportunity. And who did he have? Who did he have, Ocho? He had Jimmy G. He had Gardner Minchu, Aiden O'Connell.

Those are the main people that I don't remember. No disrespect to them. No disrespect to them. But, you know, we talk about tier two, tier three quarterbacks. Bro. What am I supposed to do with that? Nothing you can't do.

It's unfortunate. You give me chicken poops and make me some chicken salad, and I need it to be yummy. Nice. You're right. I need it to be yummy. Nice. You're right. I mean, I like Brian Flores. I think he's done a great job of rehabilitating himself because all the things that were coming out weren't favorable.

You hear Tua say things. You hear Ryan Fitzpatrick say things. There are some other people that have come out and said some things. At the end of the day, Brian, if I were to tell you, all I would say is this. Be you. You're not Coach Belichick. And I think that is the one mistake

all the coaches under that tree has made. They try to be Coach Belichick. That way of coaching wouldn't work in this area anyway. If you look at the guys that come out of Mike Shanahan, I mean, Kyle Shanahan's tree. Sean McVay is Sean McVay. Matt LaFleur is Matt LaFleur. Kevin O'Connell is Kevin O'Connell.

Mike McDaniel is Mike McDaniel. Don't nobody try to be like him. I don't know why, when that's not your personality. When they look up there and they hear you sound like Coach Belichick, but they're like, you're Brian Flores. You're Matt Patricia. You're Josh McDaniel. You're Bill O'Brien. You're Charlie Weiss. You're

Romeo Cornell. You're not him. Why try to be him? So that would be my advice to him. I hope he gets another opportunity. Normally the second time around is better than the first. But you have some pieces you get to work with over there. Jack Jones,

Max Crosby, you got some other young bulls. You got Christian Wilkins. You got Brock Byers. You got to get a quarterback. You got to get a quarterback. How much cap space do the Raiders have?

Raiders got a lot of cap space. Now, they're going to have a little dead cap space on there with Devontae Adams dealing him. They're going to have a little dead cap space. But, Ocho, that's it. They got money. I mean, listen, you don't want to spend on anything. Raiders got the second most cap money to spend.

You don't just want to spend on anything. You want to spend on the right thing. I just – you know, I thought Jamal Adams should have stayed at the Jets. I don't know. Maybe it was his contract. He wanted to get paid. Sometimes, bro, the grass ain't always greener.

And it's really difficult. It's rare. It's really, really rare, Ocho, that you can build up something here and then go somewhere else and it be the same. It's difficult. And I remember having a conversation with a great player. And he called me. He said, tell me what you think I should do.

I said, I'm going to be honest with you. I say, where you're thinking about going, they're never going to love you like they do where you are. I say, never. I don't care what you do. You're being loved where you are. You're just going to be another piece. He stayed.

And I don't think enough guys realize that. Yeah, I mean I get it Ocho, like free agency and they won't pay you. But when you request things I mean, what's fair is fair based on where he was at the time, being a safety. You got to hit it when the stove is hot

and the stove was hot for him. Right. And that's, think about it. Cause think about how he not did what he did and he had gotten hurt. Then he wouldn't have got that money. Jets are reportedly set to interview Ron Rivera and Rex Ryan for the head coach and vacancy at the Jets.

Ocho, who would be the better fit? I'm biased, so don't ask me. You don't like Rex going back? No, but I'm saying I know Rex. Sexy Rex, he was on the staff in Baltimore. His dad came and worked me out when I was at the Broncos. Not the Broncos. When I was in Savannah State, Ocho.

Buddy, his dad, rest his soul, came and worked me out. He said, son, I've watched the tape. He says, we're going to take a bunch of receivers. He said, we're going to put all their ass in the bag, and the best ones are going to play. That's what he told me.

He drafted all those receivers, and I remember him telling me he's like, because I effed up. He said, we took a bunch of receivers but none of them was you. They took Fred Barbnett. They took Calvin Williams, Mike Bellamy. They took like four receivers

though, Joe. None of them named Sheldon Charles. That's motivating. Oh, yeah. That's motivating. Oh, yeah. That is motivating in itself. Who do you like best, Ocho? Do you like Ron Ribeiro or do you like Rex Ryan? I don't think Ron has the right

personality. It's not the right word to use. He just doesn't fit the New York atmosphere, the New York meter. I atmosphere, the New York meter. I mean, the New York... Rex has been there, done that. He knows he definitely knows how to talk to the media.

He has the personality. He just doesn't fit. I mean, good coach, he just doesn't fit in that atmosphere. I don't think that's what they need. So you like Ron. I like him to go back. Especially Rex.

Rex is a defense of mine as well too, right, if I'm thinking. Yeah. Yes. We definitely have that defense player, Will. But let me ask you this. What are you doing? Who are you bringing in as offensive coordinator, and what are you doing? See, that's the scary part. So it doesn't matter.

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The Bills defeated the Jets 40-14. At one one point the score was 40 to 8 aaron rogers had a 1.2 qbr today versus the bills it was one of the work 20 worst games by a quarterback in nfl history it was the worst game since davis mills in 2021 the bills forced three turnovers, notched the safety, sacked Aaron Rodgers four times. Rodgers had a forgettable game with season lows and passing yards 112, quarterback rating 44. Aaron Rodgers benched himself in the

fourth quarter, essentially, saying you know what, Ocho, this is what he said. I mean, it was 33 to nothing. We're sitting there, and I said, at some point, you probably go to Tyron huh? probably should have went to Tyron about five games ago huh?

you know what hey Bills I need y'all to give me y'all vaccination status cause that probably that probably why y'all won hey so I can I ask you a question though?, so I can ask you a question, huh? Hey, Chad, can I ask you a question? Hey, Chad, listen to me.

Yeah, sure. Is this any different than Anthony Richardson saying he was fired and coming out the game and Aaron saying, you know what? I'm going to bench myself, I guess what? Maybe based on my play? When there's nothing wrong with it. Is there any difference? I'm going to bench myself I guess what maybe based on my play when there's nothing wrong with it I'm just curious

Chad I'm curious on your thoughts I don't get it I've never heard of a player actually benching himself unless he's saying he benched himself and then they unless they actually did it yeah no that's not what he said he said he went to the coach basically went to the coach Unless they actually did it. Yeah.

No, that's not what he said. He said he went to the coach, basically went to the coach and said, we're sitting there. And I said, at some point probably going to tie right here. You can't say that. You can't give up with your team in the middle of a game, no matter how bad you land. You still got to keep fighting to the end. You have to. So, I'm just trying to figure out. I mean,

but in fact, I hope they probably look. I mean, he done begged enough for a job or they draft a quarterback. I would mentor him. You know, that's not a conversation for me. I mean, he's begging to stay there. You know, he's playing bad and y'all getting people have given him every excuse. And when you say that he's played bad, you're talking about his vaccination status. That ain't got nothing to do with him playing bad.

That ain't got nothing to do. And that was four years ago. Ain't even nobody talking about COVID. He keeps bringing that up to try to, what he's trying to do. He's playing the shell game with JoJo. I'm playing bad. Let's talk about COVID.

So you're still playing bad. I see it with the right hand is what you're playing bad with. Yeah, right. He's trying to distract. That's why he keeps bringing it up. Don't nobody bring up that he misled people and see immunization and he, you know, if he vaccinated, he immunized. Nobody

brings that up. We're talking about your play in 2024. Right. Has been abysmal. Right. There's no way around it. He's played bad. He's still a four-time league MVP. He's still a Super Bowl champ. He still has

thrown 499 touchdowns. He's done all Super Bowl champ. He still has thrown 499 touchdowns. He's done all of that. And I say that, but he's played bad in 2024. There's nowhere around it, Chet. There's nowhere around it, Jet fans. Even the most diehard, staunchest supporters of Aaron Rodgers can honestly

can't look themselves in the mirror and say, he played good. It was abysmal. It's been bad. It's been really bad. Does he get an opportunity to redeem himself next year? That's the question. I don't believe he redeemed himself in New York.

That's just me. Right. I mean, if the reports are to be believed, that Woody Johnson tried to bench him earlier in the season. I don't know why you would bench him and then have him back. That's just my thought. Owners have done things that made me scratch my head before. But all I know is this. They fired the coach.

They promoted the offensive coordinator. And he's still playing bad. Like I said, you know, players get coached and fired. No. But, Ocho, the thing is,

this is what you have to understand. When you bring a guy like that in, you basically turn the organization over to it. Tampa did that for, Tampa did that for Brady. Broncos did that for Manny. The problem that you have to be careful with is that people, sometimes they have power. They'll abuse that privilege. It'll tell you a lot.

Give a person, if you want to know what a person, people say, well, give him money. Give a person power. That'll tell you exactly lot. Give a person, if you want to know what a person, people say, well, give him money. Give a person power. That'll tell you exactly who a person is. That's telling you who you are. And Aaron Rodgers has 499 career touchdowns, suddenly 500 on luck, a certain thing. It's going to be interesting to see. Does he play?

Does he start next week? Does he start next week? Does he play next week? It's being reported that Garrett Wilson will reportedly request a trade if Rodgers comes back as quarterback. I remember having a conversation with you this offseason when they were in training camp and he kept talking to Rodgers. I said, oh, Joe, that's not a good sign. You said, oh, it's just a preseason.

I said, Ocho, I'm telling you. He keep talking and I don't blame him. Y'all keep telling me. All I know is that when I had a left quarterback, I'm not saying he's not been being utilized the right way, but

I know what he can do. I know what he can do. I know what he can do. There's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him, but the quarterback play has been abysmal. And we've seen Aaron Rodgers before be able to facilitate the ball and be able to dish it and deliver it to multiple players at a time because he did it for a very long time in Green Bay. Maybe he's just not the same quarterback we're used to seeing.

There's no reason Gary Wilson to be upset. There's no reason Gary Wilson with his talent, with his skill level, and what he can contribute to that offense, there's no reason for this. And his time, his young, he's not in his prime yet, is being wasted in New York.

It's being wasted. It is. And that being wasted. It is. And that's a look, guys. Y'all, Ochoes have a little different way. I just call it like I see it. I don't have anything personal against anybody. I don't think I'm better than anybody. I don't care

what somebody else is doing. I just look at it and say, okay, the guy's playing good. The guy's not playing good. And let me try to explain to you why he's not playing good or why he is playing good. And so that's. I just look at it and said, okay, the guy is playing good. The guy is not playing good. And let me try to explain to you why he's not playing good or why he is playing good. And so that's why I just don't look at touchdown, interception, sack, blah, blah, blah. I'm trying to look at how it came. I'm trying to look at how it came

to be. That's why we were able to look at the players that, oh, that interception that y'all blaming on Russ? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't Russ. That was Pickens. He quit on the route. And so once he quit on the route, the safety said, why the hell am I going to get wide when there's not a threat wide?

The danger is streaming up the seam here. Let me just cheat this here. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Russ. I appreciate that. And everybody's like, Russ, how could you throw that? Had Pickens not quit on that route

and he stayed wide, that means Reed would have had to stay wide. And that means Fry Muth would have got over the top of it because he picked it. You have to understand everything ties together. Ocho, we're talking about from a standpoint of running routes. We know how things tie together.

Front side, we got to, maybe the front side, we got a dagger hoping that safety get nosy that we got the post on the back side. That's what they did with the Dino round. The Broncos ran the Dino to Marvin Mills Jr. Safety's already outside, so I'm going to get him a little further.

Now, I'm going to head back to the post. Safety ain't paying attention on the back side. Now, I'm past you. So, in offense, things tie together. It's almost like, you know, rice and gravy. You know, cornbread and this, or potatoes and that. They go together.

And so you're trying to see, okay, this went together. But guys, at some point in time, even our favorite players, they're not what they once were. And they can't do it. And that's the one thing that you they once were and they can't do it and that's the one thing is that you learn is that you can't do it consistently you can have a game or two but

Aaron Rodgers to throw 300 250 Aaron Rodgers hold on how many interceptions did the man got he probably got three seasons in 20 years in which he's had double digit interceptions Rodgers was throwing 45 touchdowns with six picks. 40 touchdowns with four picks. Routinely.

I'm not sure he has 100 interceptions. That's what I told you the other night. I saw the graphic come up. And I'm looking. I'm like, man, what in the hell? If he does, he might not have but 102 he has the greatest touchdown to interception ratio in nfl history so he has 499 touchdowns 113 picks which is crazy that's why he's afforded opportunities that's why he's giving grace to the quarterback.

Because of that, what people understand, they're going to use that as a crutch over and over and over. He's going to get another opportunity to play. I don't know if it's going to be New York. I don't know if it's going to be New York. Knowing Aaron Rodgers and the way he is and the way he operates, he's going to want to come back. He's going to want to come back. He's going to want to come back.

But here's the thing, Ocho. Ocho, as you get older, you don't get to make the decisions. Yeah. Think about it. Tom Brady didn't get to write his ending. Peyton Manning didn't get to write his ending. Montana didn't get to write his ending. Emmitt Smith didn't get to write his ending Montana didn't get to write his ending Emmitt Smith didn't get to write his ending there are not very many guys

because once you get older you don't get to write the ending that you want Aaron Rodgers might not be able to write the ending right but they can't close the page on that chapter because they don't have nobody to open the new book.

Ooh. Yeah, they do. Why wouldn't you go back to Sam Donald? You know what? I like it. You see, Ocho, it's a lot sometimes sometimes even in a relationship the individual the female

or the male can be paralyzed because they're so afraid that somebody might not out there what am I gonna do yeah I know he don't pay

I know he beat on me I know she cheat on me I know this but I am I gonna be able to find somebody else yes sir you get paralyzed by that because you overthink

said situation. I refuse to be in a situation like that. I refuse to. I am not going to let you hold me hostage because I don't see it right now something on the other side. Right. Because the Jets cannot see,

well, who's the quarterback right now that we can definitively say, are you saying that there's somebody out there that can be worse? I mean, are you telling me, you mean to tell me you can't find somebody out there that can go five and 11? I mean, five and 12?

That can go six and 10? That can go seven and what? Nine and eight? Yeah. You got to be kidding me. There are no quarter of a chat. Tell me if I'm wrong. Do y'all believe that there's another there's not another quarterback out

there that can do what Rogers did this year? Now, if you tell me you're going to give me 2020, 2021, Rogers, I'll bring it in without him. But that guy. Oh, 2021 Rodgers. That's a hard thing to say. Without him. But that guy, Ocho, that guy, you would be in the playoffs. But he's not that guy anymore. Carolina had Sam Darnold and they had Baker Mayfield. I don't know if y'all know, but Baker Mayfield got like four or five games where he threw four touchdowns this year.

Now, he threw five today with over 300 yards. Sam Darnold threw three today. He's thrown four touchdowns this year. He threw five today with over 300 yards. Sam Darnold threw three today. He's thrown 35 touchdowns, which is the third most for a Viking. So, clearly,

these guys can play given the right sort of circumstances. Now, look, they were devoid of talent. They didn't have this level of talent in Carolina. So you have to take, look, I'm not saying that it's all Carolina fault, but Mike Evans and Chris Godwin,

you look at what they got in Tampa now, even though Chris Godwin is going down, they still have quality receivers and they have a nice running game. You look at what they, obviously look at what Sam Darnold's throwing to. He got Aaron Jones in his backfield. He got Hawkinson, who's been a pro bowl player. He's got Jetta.

He's got Addison. He's got Naylor. I mean, look, he's got guys that he can throw the ball to, but it just goes to show you, I don't care. With our talent around you, now you got some guys now, guys like a Mahomes or guys like a, some guys can elevate, like Brady.

They used to elevate, could elevate, you know, not, if you're in the league, you're good, but everybody is not going to be a Jetta. Everybody's not going to be Randy Moss, T.O., and so forth and so on. But what a great quarterback like a Mahomes, he can elevate those guys play. When you're not

that level of player, you need guys to elevate your play. And that's what the great skill position players around you are able to do. Baker Mayfield has been better since he got to Tampa that even when he was in Cleveland because he got more talent

around him. Sam Darnold was never going to be this good in the Jets and at Carolina because he didn't have this level of talent around him. Sam Darnold was never going to be this good in the Jets and at Carolina because he didn't have this level of talent around him. And so if you go out and sign a Sam Darnold, look at what you have. Do you have the roster that's equipped

to help continue to elevate him? Because if you don't, he's not Mahomes. He's not Burrow. He's not Lamar. He's not Josh Allen. That's not what he is. And I'm not finna sit here and tell you because he's having, and he's having an outstanding year. I give credit where credit's due.

Right. But I don't look at him as a guy that's a multiplier. Right. No matter who you put out there, Ocho, he's going to make them times two. That's not what, that's Lamar. That's reserved for the top four or five quarterbacks in the league. That's not for him. You want quarterbacks or your elites that regardless of what you put around them,

they're always going to get the job done. Always get the job done. Then you have your tier two quarterbacks. Your tier two quarterbacks, sometimes they need a little help. Now they're good, but they're not great. Now you put some good receivers around them. Yes. But they can have a game where they can have a game or two where they are great.

But more times than not, you need to have that hedge around them to support them. Brock Bowers record-setting day pushing the Raiders to a win versus the Saints. The Raiders posted back-to-back wins for the first time this season with a 25-10 victory over the New Orleans Saints. Rookie tight end Brock Bowers led the Raiders

in receiving with seven catches, 77 yards, and set several records. Bowers set an NFL record for the most receiving yards by a rookie tight end in a single season. And the most reception by a rookie in a single season, uh, hold on. The most reception by a rookie in a single season. Hold on. The most reception by rookie in a single season? Oh, in the second quarter, right?

Is that what you're saying? Yeah, exactly. Okay, in the second quarter, okay. Bowers also set a rated single season record for the most receiving yards by rookie and the most receptions. I mean, what's the record? The most reception by tight end is Jason Witten, 116.

116? They were dealing. Because he has, what does he have now? 108? Because I think Malik Neighbors has like 106. He's right there on him. About Zach Ertz. Okay, Zach Ertz has 116. Brock Bowers has how many? 108 now? he's right there on him about Zach Hurts okay Zach Hurts

has 116 Brock Bowers has how many 108 now so he's nine catches away from breaking the record hey all I know I'm throwing in the ball

I'm throwing in the ball every day every day oh I forgot Pat Sertain gonna get some votes too cause when he covered Jamar Chase

had throw on what six seven targets he had three catches for 27 yards against Sertan and when Sertan wasn't on him what's it called Joey Joe Burrow hunted him

well hey oh you gonna guard somebody else Jamar get ready so Sertan is gonnaertan he's gonna get some he's gonna get some he's good man he's real nice oh he good

oh Joe that's a little effortless to be that size to be that big like yeah they told hey listen to be that fluid

he tall he tall he like big dude he got great hips great technique he can play off he can play man he's really good

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