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Episode Date: January 4, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from College Football Playoffs including Quinn Ewers and the Texas Longhorns eliminating Cam Skattebo and the Arizona Stat...e Sun Devils in a 2OT instant classic, Ryan Day and Ohio State handle Dillon Gabriel and the Oregon Ducks, giving them their only loss of the season, the guys think Quinn Ewers should return to college football next season to work on his game and much more!00:00 - Texas versus Arizona State Sun Devils19:52 - Ohio State versus Oregon27:37 - Quinn Ewers needs to come back to work on his game(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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a double OT thriller.
The number five Texas squandered a 16-point lead in the fourth quarter,
missed two field goals in the final two minutes of regulation and still somehow
managed to escape with a
39-31 double overtime
win over the number four seed
Arizona State in the Peach Bowl.
The Chick-fil-A
Peach Bowl. Ocho,
I know, sorry,
as I just texted him,
congratulations. We'll try to get him on here
one of these next couple days so maybe we can uh we could uh we can get him on there uh he's
flying they're flying back now so or we would have had his ass over here tonight but man this
was a guy oh joe this is how it's supposed to be ain't nobody trying to see no double digit
everybody winning by double i thought i thought it was listen the way it started out i thought arizona state was gonna
get blowed out now but i a i did too this is 14 what was it 14 what was it 14 yeah but man they
jumped out on top of them boys head i'm like oh man i'm finna turn the channel i'm finna turn the
channel and then obviously things started to change things started to move And I don't know what's wrong with college kickers.
Hell, I don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers.
You have one job.
You do one thing the entirety day of practice.
You kick the ball.
That's it.
Texas kicker almost cost them,
almost cost them.
They missed two key field goals
that could have sealed the win.
Now they did win the game,
but ain't no telling what could have happened.
Ain't no telling what could have happened.
That goddamn Cam.
How do you say young bull last name?
Scatbo.
Scatbo?
Scatbo?
Scatbo?
Is it Scataboo?
Because they were saying Scataboo.
They say Scat boat i mean i'm
confused i mean you know what i'm gonna call him i'm gonna call him scat pack i'm gonna call him
scam scam cam scat pack hey he's nice boy he's nice he's a senior too he coming out huh
scatterboo cam scatter okay cam scat cam scat Cam Scataboo. Okay, Cam Scat...
Cam Scatback Scataboo.
I know you're probably going to see this.
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Boy, you the real deal, boy. You hear me?
He'll see you, huh?
Yeah, I think so. He'll see you.
Well, you know where you belong?
You belong... He run the ball
like he belong to play belong he's supposed to play
for the Ravens
or the Browns
he's supposed to play
for the Ravens or the Browns
he gonna be a rarity
he gonna be a white running back
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they don't come along
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tell me if you remember this
Peyton Hillis
yeah
little Peyton Hillis.
Don't give up.
Run hard.
If he get in the way,
he can shake you a little bit.
He got a little move to him now.
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I know y'all...
People talking about Toby Gerhardt,
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What's... he was at Arkansas.
Felix Jones.
Oh, I remember Felix Jones.
Yeah, yeah.
Derrick McFadden.
Yes.
All that was in the backfield.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
But this is where a game's supposed to be.
Quinn, you was 20 or 30, 3-30, 3-22, three touchdowns, one interceptions.
They didn't run the ball particularly well.
30 carries, 53 yards.
Golden had a big catch.
Sam for a buck 49.
Helm had three for 56.
And, oh, Joe.
I think Arizona State's going to be kicking themselves themselves I think they kind of let this one go
you can't let that guy get over your head in that situation
Ocho
that touchdown, that first touchdown in OT
Ocho you can't let it
you can't
that should have been the number one rule from the coach
keep everything in front of you
everything
the number one rule Ocho the number one rule from the coach. Keep everything in front of you. Everything.
The number one rule, Ocho.
The number one rule late in the ballgame.
Nothing cheap,
nothing deep.
Keep it in front of you.
Nothing cheap,
nothing deep.
I don't care if he catches,
I don't care if he catches
a 15-yard right in front of me.
It's when you try to be the hero
and get you a cheap kick
that gets you in trouble.
Ain't no way.
Same thing.
You last line of defense.
If he's even with you, you're wrong.
It's a wrap.
Hey, Ocho, it was four down.
With the 13.
Ocho, you cannot give that up.
You can't.
Oh. Ocho, my heel give that up You can't Oh
Ocho, my heel's on the goal line
As a matter of fact, I think they throwing a Hail Mary
Ocho, I'm on the goal line
My heel's on the goal line
Knock it down, knock it down
You're not getting paid
I'm not going to give you no cheap tub
I don't even want to blame the coaches
I don't want to blame don't even want to blame the coaches i don't want to
blame coaching as a player in that situation you got to have some type of awareness some type of
awareness and understanding understand the situation that you're in and know you just you
can't be you can't get beat not in that situation at all and if anything if i am let him make a
great play but let me be in position if you don't make the play, but let me be in position.
If you're going to make the play, at least let me be in position,
and he have to make a great play to catch that.
Man, I was like, oh, my goodness.
Oh, fourth and 13, you give up that.
But I think Arizona State showed that they belong.
Everybody was like,
well, they didn't belong that week conference
and they didn't do this
and this team didn't do that.
They gave Texas all they could have.
They definitely belong.
And more.
Ocho, when you watched Quinn Ewers,
what you think?
You know, it's hard to tell.
It's hard to tell at this level.
Obviously to me,
if you have enough,
if you have enough talent around you,
enough players at this kind of level,
any quarterback can look good.
So what kind of quarterback is yours?
Is this type of quarterback that goes to the NFL
and elevate the talent around him?
Or is he the kind of quarterback where he needs the talent around him
to be able to elevate?
Yeah, I don't see him elevating anybody.
I really don't.
And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back lets you know.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Come back where?
He's going to come back to Texas.
He's going to transfer.
I don't see him going to leave.
I'm not going to see the field before
with Arch Manning
I don't know I mean he's probably if he's going to come back
he's probably going to come back somewhere else but I doubt
it's Texas because he's not going to be
Arch Manning out
I mean I've been reading I don't know if these reports are true
Ocho but I've been reading that
some team some
college team got six million dollars
in NIL money for him.
I mean,
I just, when I
just watch him, I'm like, bro,
that ball that he threw that got
picked, I'm trying to figure out...
That he loved it? Yes!
That hospital ball.
I don't know.
I still don't know where he was
throwing it because the backside safety
and the front side was there.
So I'm just trying to figure out.
I said, okay, well, who, what did you see?
What did you, what did you think?
I know what did happen on that play right there.
They ran it in practice multiple times.
And in practice, it was open.
In practice.
You know why it was open?
You know why it was open?
Tell the people at home what they say.
They tell the safety to do what?
Jump the underneath so we can throw the ball over your damn head.
That's exactly what he did.
Anyway, instead of understanding and reading your coverage, you know,
and you just letting the ball go.
And it's not open.
Because that's what happens.
What happens is, hey, you go draw the thing up, and there's the guy's circle. Okay, we want to throw the ball. Now, the guy that's running the scout team happens is we, Hey, you go draw the thing up and there's the guy circle.
Okay.
We want to throw the ball.
Now the guy that's running the scout team said,
Hey safety,
you dropped the crossing route and we will throw the post over your head.
Boom.
Well,
come game time.
Hey,
can you drop this?
Can you drop this over round so we can throw the post behind your head?
He going to read it.
Right.
Duh.
You should read it.
But you see what happens on joe when you make
your mind up pre-snap that you're throwing the ball that's what happens yeah that's what happens
he had his mind made up i'm throwing this post no matter what bro ain't no way you in hell you
read that and said you know what i'm throwing this and then he throws it like a punch yeah
that's got to be on the line.
But even if it was on the line,
first of all, that was targeted too because the backside
guy left his feet and hit the guy in the chest.
But they didn't want to like,
nah, we can't call that targeted, blah, blah, blah.
Because they returned the favor
because by the letter of the law, the Texas
guy targeted.
But they didn't want to impact the game in that way.
They said, no targeting. But that
was absolute targeting.
I mean, he went helmet to helmet.
And the other guy left his feet.
He launched. They said,
you can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck or the
shoulder area. He launched. And they said,
you can't use your helmet or crown
of your helmet to make a tackle. He went
helmet to helmet with the guy.
But they're like, man, we can't
impact this game like this here.
They pick and choose. They pick and choose when they call
in there. Absolutely right. They got to
find some level of consistency when you're making
these calls.
Texas had 375
total yards. Arizona State
had 510.
Total rush yard, Texas
had 53. Arizona State had 214 quinn ewers was 20 of 30 332 three
touchdowns one interception sam levitt 24 46 222 no touchdowns one interception uh but that last
interception muhammad made a great play give him credit i mean sometimes oh sometimes, Ocho, we keep blaming the quarterback, man, you threw
that, blah, blah, blah. But you know, the defensive
guy, they studied him, too.
He made a hell of a play.
And he didn't settle for just
trying to break it up. He caught the ball.
He caught it.
And it's okay, you know,
hey, 84, you got to make that play.
Hey, coach, you get paid, too.
You think Bronco players are the only ones that make money in the NFL?
No, no.
And they study for you.
And they got coaches too.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, hey, I understand.
I'm supposed to make the play.
But, you know, it's the NFL.
Everybody can make a play.
I'm going to win more than I lose.
But, hey, that guy made a hell of a play
on that interception to seal this victory, Ocho.
They did.
But you can't get beat on fourth and 13, Ocho,
over the top four, too.
You cannot.
You can't, Ocho, you cannot.
I was like, bro, I said, are you serious?
That should have been the conversation had with the, not just the head coach,
the defensive coordinator, the DV coach, the secondary coach,
the man upstairs in the booth.
Don't get beat deep.
You can't.
You can't.
Nothing cheap, nothing deep i am not you you will not complete this ball over my
head you're not because oh joy at worst case scenario i'm gonna make you line it up at the
end and try to run another series of downs in order to get the ball in the end zone
now the only thing the only thing you can hope is that once that guy gets over your head,
either Quinn Ewers underthrows him
or the guy drops the football.
But hey, now, it's out of
your hands.
See, I want to play
in my hands, Ocho. I want to
play in my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all I got to do, get him
on the ground. Well, you get him on the ground
in the end zone, it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle
for that. You got to tackle him in the
field of play or push his ass out of bounds
in order for you to get a tackle. Once he's in the
end zone,
guys, and it'll be okay.
Can guys do me a favor, college kids?
If a guy get a first down, can
y'all stop celebrating? What did you
do? Hey, come on, huh? Wait a minute,
man. Come on, man. You get that first
down. Oh, so the guy got the first down. now you get that first down so the guy got the first
down when you get that first down you gotta no i'm talking about the defense oh the defense oh
yeah you got a big hit on somebody he got a first down oh i thought i thought you made a receiver
okay okay no no i'm like bro i'm like what maybe something. I said, let me rewind this because I want to see what you did.
It's still a first down.
Now, look, look, me college kids, they're going to celebrate that.
I don't mind them celebrating.
And plus, Ocho, if you make a tackle, I mean, as a defender, what's your job?
Make a tackle?
Yeah.
You can't celebrate every tackle.
I mean, if you get a sack, Ocho. Tackle for loss.
Yeah. Tackle for a loss. You get a sack, Ocho.
A big key third
down. You know, you want to do this.
I get all that. But, bro,
the guy get three, four yards
and you jump up celebrating. Come on now.
Now, we doing way too much
with this.
They having a good time out there, man.
She, Scatterbowl.
Scatterbowl.
30 carries, 143 yards, two rushing touchdowns, eight catches, 99 yards.
Had that guy not pulled his face mask, he's going to drag it, you know what,
into the end zone.
Ocho, Scatterabow was so outstanding.
He was named Peach Bowl
offensive player of the game.
You don't see that very often.
His name is Scatpack.
Scataboo?
Scatpack.
Scataboo.
Scatpack.
Well, Scatpack did something
that you don't see very often.
A guy winning defensive,
winning offensive player of the game
from a losing team.
Yeah.
It's only happened, you know, Jerry West, the first year they gave out finals MVP in 1969,
Jerry West won the award on a losing squad.
They lost the championship 4-3, the final game they lost on their home court.
Again, now you got to go back to the football.
Chuck Howley, he won Super Bowl MVP on a losing squad.
They lost 16-13 to the Colts.
Chuck Howley was the MVP.
That's the only time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad
winning an award.
Now, I'm not saying saying maybe it's happened i don't know if in baseball
if somebody's won a world series mvp from the losing squad i don't i have to go way back but
i don't i don't remember it that's what i don't think it's happened in in in the last 25 30 years
but it just goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman was
from the Sun Devils running and catching the football.
He was.
He belongs.
When you're able to perform like that against a team like that,
it lets you know you belong, regardless of the conference you play in.
Oh, yeah.
But you can tell. Guys that the talent shine you can tell i mean he okay that's an sec defense and he wouldn't got a book 30 he wouldn't but got
a book 43 on him and he almost had 100 yards receiving so he had uh what 200 and what's that 242 yards of total offense
hey man and two touchdowns against an sec defense look good when when you go when you go play
and if you're at a small school oh joe if you play upper level, say you go to Division II and you play FCS
or you FCS and you play D1.
The talent is shining through.
Darius Leonard,
when he played Clemson,
he was at South Carolina State,
he had 29 tackles.
Oh, he can play.
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I dropped 221 on them.
Oh, damn.
He did that?
You know what?
This is another conversation that I always like to have.
We're young players coming out of high school.
They're always so focused on all their offers and where they're going.
And I say it again.
If you really like that, if you really like that and you and you
feel you're as good as you think you are it really don't matter where you go because you can put up
performances like that which you were able to do against better what you were able to do
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mean i i you know that's that's what i want that's. You know, that's what I want. That's what I want.
Because that's what I saw on television.
I didn't see no HBCUs.
But see,
I understand what you're
talking about.
But then now we go
into the issue of,
okay,
I want to go to these
big schools where they
have players that have
been there before me
and I get there
and they tell me,
oh,
I got to wait my turn.
Or I might not
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because we have so-and-so
and he has seniority
over you.
Not about,
you know what, I'm coming in here to compete for the job,
but you mean to tell me he has seniority over me,
so he's probably going to play before me?
Instead of let me have an opportunity to beat him out,
regardless of what his grade level is.
Junior?
They had no choice.
It don't matter.
Oh, they had to play me. You think Jeremiah Smith was going to go to Ohio State
and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior or junior
because they've been there for what?
For three or four years?
Man, please.
Hey, you better get a little part of that in the end
because, hey, you know who's coming.
Hey, they had to play me, Ocho.
Yeah.
Oh, what?
You thought, oh.
I was one of the few freshmen that traveled. I ain't just traveling. Oh, you? You thought, oh. Mm-mm. I was one of the few freshmen that traveled.
I ain't just traveling.
Oh, you could travel this week.
Man, travel to do what?
Stand on the sideline of my uniform?
Oh, hell nah.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
And the first game, the first game we played, Ocho, our first home game.
Man, I was so embarrassed, Ocho.
I caught a goal ball, Ocho.
56 yards. Got tackled on the game. Man, I was so embarrassed, Ocho. I caught a goal ball, Ocho. 56 yards.
Got tackled on the one.
Oh, huh?
You got it.
My first catch in college.
Hold on.
Hold on.
What you embarrassed for?
Man, that's supposed to be a 57-yard touchdown, not a 56-yard catch.
Well, that's why you still got to stiff him, huh?
You got to catch that thing and, you know, get that stiff arm back behind him.
Ocho, it felt like, I mean, it felt like like i was running it felt to me like i was running in slow
motion i was like damn is somebody pulling the end zone away from me damn oh joe the game that
you just watched the ohio state buckeyes took apart the number one team in the country the
oregon ducks 41 21 in the rose Bowl. Oregon, excuse me, Ohio State
gets their revenge. It was one of
their two losses on the season. They lost
earlier in the year to
Oregon in Oregon,
but tonight
they were really no match.
Jeremiah Smith
set the stage early. He had
seven catches a buck, 87 and two touchdowns,
but this was really a mismatch
from the word jump.
And I think this is what's so frustrating about Ohio
State because you see what they
can be. Now, this is the team that took
apart the number one team in the country
by 20, by three touchdowns
and lost on their own
home field by a team that they were
favored by three touchdowns.
That's what's frustrating about them, and I think that's what –
but Ryan Day, give him credit.
We've been very critical of him.
Not critical.
We were critical of the game that he lost, losing to Ohio,
losing to Michigan year in and year out.
Having that level of talent that you have.
Think about the quarterbacks that they've had.
Think about the wide receivers.
Think about the D linemen.
Think about the DBs from the Denzel Wars and the Jeff Okuda's and all those
guys that's come out of there.
And you ain't got no national championship,
no national championship.
All those receivers,
Marvin Harrison,
Jr.
Jackson Smith and Jigba.
You got Chris Olavi.
You got Garrett Wilson.
Look at those D linemen from Chase Young to Nick Bosa.
Look at those quarterbacks.
Justin Fields, and you have, rest his soul,
what's the guy that lost his life tragically?
Dwayne Haskins.
You had the other quarterback.
And so you can understand why people are like, hold on.
Come on, Coach Dave.
You got this level of talent.
They had a top, what, top six, top seven pick last year, the offensive tackle position. They're like, Coach Dave, you got this level of talent. They had a top six, top seven pick last year,
the offensive tackle position.
They're like, Coach Dave, you got this level of talent,
and you losing to Michigan,
and you ain't got no national championship?
But all will be forgiven if he takes this thing and finishes it out.
But Ohio State looked good today, Ocho.
They ran the ball well.
They threw the ball well.
They stopped Michigan. I mean, that
high-powered offense of Oregon.
It looked very
pedestrian, very mundane today.
Listen, I don't know. Maybe
I could be wrong, but I think
the week off, I think it did more harm
than good for them to be as flat as they look
today, as well as Oregon has played all
season long, being the number one team in the country
and the way they showed up today,
that had to be a little bit of rust. And not
only was it a little bit of rust, but it was too late
and there was no room for the rust when you're playing somebody
like Ohio State who had a point to prove
after losing the first time they met early in the
season. And that's exactly what they got.
Jeremiah Smith, he said
ahead of time that if you play
one-on-one, you're not
going to be able to cover me.
He went out there and did exactly what he was supposed to do and handled his business.
The funny thing about it,
people right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith
and how great he is and how good he is.
And he's probably right now, even as a freshman,
probably the number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.
I've been watching young bull at Chaminade down in Miami, you know, for a few years.
He'd been like that.
In Little League, he was like that.
At Ohio, he was like that.
When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still going to be like that.
He'd been like that for a long time.
Outside of that, man, Ohio State looked very, very well.
Again, hoping Coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand and
for all the great players that have come through Ohio Ohio State they can have they can hoist that
trophy at the end of the day yeah oh CJ Stroud was a quarterback you have CJ Stroud no national
championship Justin Fields no national championship Dwayne Haskins no national championship justin fields no national championship duane haskins no national championship
that's three quarterbacks taken in the first round now olave first round pick gary wilson
first round pick jackson smith and jigba first round pick marvin harrison jr first round pick
chase young the number two pick nick bosa the number two pick uh jeff okuda uh denzel war
come on now come on i mean people, they make it seem like we just making
stuff up. You got that level of talent
year in and year out,
and you ain't won no national championship?
And people like, oh,
they're being too hard. Bro, and you
losing to Michigan?
I don't think, I personally
don't think that's a stretch
when you got that level of talent
that coming out year in
and year out and you're underachieving there's no other there's no other way around it Ocho
coach day you did a phenomenal job of having this team prepared and from the word jump
I have a question do you still is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all these
quality players year in and year out is it still underachieving? The fact that you've had all these quality players year in and year out,
is it still underachieving simply because you haven't won a national championship,
but the seasons have been successful?
Oh, Joe.
I'm just asking.
Oh, Joe, think about it.
You got offensive player of the year, offensive player of the year,
offensive player of the year.
Think about it.
You got quarterbacks, C.J. Stroud, Justin Fields,
and you had Dwayne Haskins in succession.
Yes, sir.
You have Jackson Smith and Jig, but you had Garrett Wilson.
You had Olave.
You had Marvin Harrison Jr. in succession.
And a lot of those guys played together.
You had Chase Young.
You had Nick Bosa.
Jeff Okuda.
Denzel Ward.
Come on, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you.
Bro, that's 10
first-round
picks right there.
And I
said the same thing about Coach Saban.
Coach Saban said that the fans
in Ohio State are psychotic.
I asked Coach Saban this.
If you had consistently lost to Auburn
and you got Julio,
and you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Judy, and you got Ruggs,
and you got Waddle, and you got Devontae Smith,
and you got Amari Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks.
You got Tua.
You got Brian Young.
You got, what's the guy that went to New England?
Matt Jones. Matt Jones. Matt mac jones okay you got him now you
got and plus you got uh uh what's the guy derrick henry and you got naji harris you got damian harris
come bro and i ain't gonna talk about the defense i ain't gonna talk about what they got
even after a couple of years of Coach Saban,
and Alabama fans, y'all know this.
Even after a couple of years of not winning the national championship,
after he had done one 4-5,
they said Coach Saban had lost his fastball.
That man had got four or five national championships,
and they're saying that with the talent.
You got Quentin Williams, and you got Allen,
and you got all those guys.
See, man, you better all those guys. Man,
you better, hey,
you better, hey,
when you have that level of talent, Ocho,
I mean, think about Alabama,
the level of talent that they put out every
single year. Ohio State
ain't far behind. The only difference
is Alabama
has won in the last
15 years, has won six national championships,
played for another three.
That's the difference between them and Ohio State.
You know what I would love to hear,
especially in the chat,
and then probably people that are going to watch this
after the fact and hear us talk about this
and saying that Ohio State is underachieved
based on the level of talent that they've had
in succession there
without winning a national championship.
I'm curious to hear rebuttals and with the, not excuses,
but the reason behind why they haven't won will be.
And, you know, people always find a way they come up with something.
I don't want to call them excuses, but there are valid reasons
depending on what they may be.
But whatever reason, I'm curious to hear what they have to say.
Quinn Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal
rather than heading to the NFL draft this spring.
According to On3, multiple Power 4 schools are working to get Ewers
in the portal ahead of his final year of college eligibility.
$6 million for one year Ocho
he got to come back
he has to come back
and continue to work on his game
because
when you watch
when you watch yours
I need
your play to pop out
on the screen
I need it to pop out
when you watch the Joe Burrow
in college
you watch the Sidney Stroud
in college
when you watch other quarterbacks
like the Cam Ward
they pop out on screen there's something special about those individuals special so he needs to
come back another year no matter no matter where it is and you know pop out on i agree with you
i agree with you ocho i don't see special i see a good college quarterback but i don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but I don't see special.
I don't see,
I don't see man,
a must have a guy.
That's a like,
boy,
they get him.
He's going to,
he's going to, he's going to drastically change their fortunes.
I don't see that.
Now let's see.
Let's see.
I mean,
he might come back and get better because nobody saw that.
If you'd ask teams that were going to look at Joe Burrow before he came
back for a senior year, Joe Burrow didn't see look at Joe Burrow before he came back for a senior year,
Joe Burrow didn't seem special.
But he came back for that year.
He was special.
Matt Jones.
Hell, if Matt Jones don't come to get that one year,
Matt Jones ain't no first-round pick.
Sometimes, look, and I don't blame people.
Like, well, look, yes, okay.
Now, can he make it happen?
You're throwing to Devontae.
You got Najee.
You got Waddle.
You know, you got a very, very talented team.
It just goes to show you just how good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bench.
And we see Bryce Young the next year
won the Heisman.
Hey, and also
look at the talent. This is what I like
about Bryce too. Now, we saw
Bryce win the Heisman, but
you look at the talent that Bryce had around
him. So,
he got to Carolina. He thought something was wrong
with him. Then he gets benched.
He come back after getting benched and I don't know what the hell happened.
I don't know what type of prayer he said.
Now he's back to playing great football, looking like the bright son we saw in college.
Even in losing.
Even in losing efforts as a team and as a quarterback,
he looks completely, totally different than he did when he first started.
He did.
He does.
They just need to give him some talent.
If you look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at C.J. Stroud.
Look at what he was throwing to Tank Dale and Nico Collins.
Look at what he was throwing to.
Okay?
Look at Caleb Williams.
He got Roman Doomsley, first-round pick.
He got D.J. Moore, who just signed a contract extension.
He got Keenan Allen.
Look at what
Daniels.
Look at what
he's throwing to.
Y'all want the man to come out. Hey, I don't care.
Even Peyton Manning
had Marvin Harrison when he got there.
He had Marvin Harrison. He had Ken Dildred.
And he had Marshall Falk.
And Craig Heath.
Yes!
As a rookie!
He had two first ballot Hall of Famers as a rookie.
That's a lucky draw.
Ken Dillinger had been to Pro Bowls.
There's another.
I forget the guy's name.
Oh, my goodness.
The other tight end.
As a matter of fact, the Colts had two tight ends to make the Pro Bowl.
What's his name?
Go make a look at 90.
Teddy, stop scratching the couch.
I can't think of the other.
What's that dude's name?
Cause I traded,
I traded helmets with,
uh,
Ken Dilger at the Pro Bowl one year.
I'm trying to think what year was that?
Hell,
I don't even remember.
Uh,
Pro Bowl tight end.
No, no,
no,
in like the nineties.
Yeah.
Marcus Pollard.
Thank you, Chad.
Marcus Pollard.
Marcus Pollard.
I remember Marcus Pollard.
I ain't heard that name in a minute, man.
Yeah.
So, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out here and do spectacular things,
but go back and look at your favorite quarterback
and see what they were throwing to.
Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became the starter,
y'all know who he was throwing to, right?
He had Tyreek.
He had Sammy Watkins.
He had Travis Kelsey.
Could I interest you in any of those guys?
Two of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.
Tyreek and Kelsey going to go to the Hall of Fame.
That's what he was throwing to.
Look at what Big Ben
had to throw to.
No, look what he's always,
always had to throw to.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, the Pittsburgh Steelers
are just like Cincinnati
when it comes to receivers.
You know that?
You notice that?
They always,
always have good receivers
come through that channel no matter what.
Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, always.
Yeah.
They had Plax.
They had Hines.
What's the guy that won the Super Bowl MVP?
Santonio Holmes.
Santonio Holmes?
I mean, bro, y'all make it seem like, I mean, yeah, give Bryce Young those type of weapons.
Let's see.
Let's see.
You got to give the guy something to work with.
Marino, I think Marino, I think Dupre and Clayton got there with Marino.
Mm-hmm.
In 83.
They might have came in 80.
Might have been 83.
They might have got there together.
But you got to give a guy something to work with
damn
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