Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Thunder CLAIM Game 5 of WCF + Ocho FOOTAGE of Tee Higgin’s Celebrity Game

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Thunder beating the Spurs in Game 5 and more Ocho footage surfaces from Tee Higgin’s celebrity game Subscrib...e to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction03:03 - Thunder beat Spurs44:50 - More footage of Ocho playing in Tee’s Celebrity Game (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:45 SGA, 32 points, 9 assists, 2 steals. Alex Caruso picked up where he had left off in the previous first three games. 22 points, six assists, three steals. Isaiah Hartinstein was really the heart and soul tonight. 12 points, 15 rebounds, four assists, six of eight. He's plus 24, and he did a great job of keeping Victor Wimbi Yama off the board because Wimby only had six rebounds. But Hartinstein was sensational night.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Six of those rebounds of the 15 were offensive rebounds. because Jerry McCain was inserted into the starting lineup, and he played extremely well. Spurry's got to do a better job of taking care of the ball, Joe. It's really that simple. You cannot let them get the 70 at the half because they can play out of place. Most teams can't get to the number that they can get to.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Right, right. I mean, you did a great job. You had them to 29 in the first, and then they damn need to get 40 in the second. You get over 30 plus in the third. You're not going to be okay, C, if you allow them to play like that, if you give them that many second chance opportunities,
Starting point is 00:06:47 If you do not do a better job of keeping them off the three point line, and tonight they were going down because a lot of those shots they had in game four, they had some of the same shots. They just didn't knock them down. They knocked them down tonight. But you better not give them too many chances at you because, guess what? They're going to make you pay for those, Joe. How were the Thunder able to regroup, Joe,
Starting point is 00:07:06 because we saw them get blown out in game four by 20 plus and they come back and they win by 13 tonight? What was the difference between game four and game five? The difference to me, y'all can old show, You got to look at Chek Hungris. Look how he came out aggressive, how he started the game. In the first half, he had 12 points, but I know he only finished with 16. But I thought he was assertive, you know, in that first half to start the game
Starting point is 00:07:31 when everything was looking, you know, it wasn't looking great for Shea. She wasn't playing well. You know, and he's addressed that. And he's addressed that. But I thought Chek picked it up with his aggressiveness, you know, having that thrust to get into the rim, trying to make plays. and he got a few to go down. And y'all know, man, in this league, all it takes is for one or two to go down
Starting point is 00:07:52 and you get a little confidence. And I thought he got off to a great start. Caruso has been unbelievable. He has been unbelievable. I'm talking about because when he comes in the game, it's never a letdown, bro. It's either we keep it steady or he take you to another level. I think he's been great. You look at McCain who stepped right in.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He don't mind. Look, he don't had a prettiest game because there's a guard. you know, when you see guys bring the ball up, he don't really, he'll move with that fluidity, you know, like a, like a Kyrie or a Shay or, you know, guys like that. But he's so effective, bro. He gets it done. And he's not afraid of the moment.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Shea needs another guard next to him who don't mind, you know, putting up some shots and, you know, and making big shots. I think OKC, man, they came out and put their step on the game. Home court advantage is going to come to play in this series. I don't think OKC can win games. but they look great. I mean, you look at it. Jerry McCain had the same number of shots.
Starting point is 00:08:52 The Shea. Both of them got the ball up 19 times. He's not afraid. He will, hey, on a kickout where you might say, hey, pull, no, hell, nah. He's like, nah, nah, this shot been to go up. This shot going up. Ocho, you have the Spurs.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yes, sir. They came out, and I thought they played good. They got OKC to call a time out. And then right out of the time out, guess what? The Spurs get the ball back, turn them. over. When they do it again, turn over. At some point time, Joe, oh Joe, Castle has to do a better job of taking care of the basketball. And he's got to stop. I understand Joe, I don't want to rob him of his aggressiveness.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But Joe, you picking up files 90 feet from the basket. That's crazy. And you're going to put him in the penalty. So now they're in the penalty with six minutes to go. Yeah, yeah. The whistle is all the, the rest whistle is already on a hair trigger. you put them and Shay's going to have the ball 90% of the time 16 to 17 from the free throw line. Yeah. Oh, Joe, how are your team going to get back in this thing? Listen, I don't know. They need to have a conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:59 We talked about this. I don't know in length already a few, a few games ago about Castle. And I asked you and Uncle, Joe, you and I asked Joe, what can the coach tell Castle where he can still be himself and play with controlled aggression without fouling so much, without getting so much foul trouble. There were two things that's wrong with him. He's fouling, he's fouling too early too often, and he's turning the ball over at a high clip and then putting his team in harm's way.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Hey, here's a problem we got here. I'd rather have my dog out there barking getting down, and I had to pull it. I had to pull him back a little bit versus me having to push him out there saying, you know, sick him, go get him. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. You're going to have to live with some of these mistakes that Castle's going to make, bro. He's a young guy. Hey, listen, he's guarding a two-time MVP who shot 53% from the field throughout the regular season. He's only had one game in this series to where he shot 50% and I think that was like game two. And I think he had 30 points. He was right at 50%.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So I'm not, I mean, I understand Castle has made some mistakes, but we can kind of, you know, we're going to have to make do with some of them mistakes. We're going to have to pick it up in other areas. You know what I mean? I just think for the Spurs to win in OKC again, obviously I think it had to be a game seven, but I think it's going to be tough, bro. Their role players play too great at home.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yes, I agree. Go ahead, Ocho. I was going to say outside of that, we didn't get much from Bacill tonight. We didn't get much from Fox tonight. Wimby wasn't Wimmy. Obviously, most of the time, average than 30, he only had 20. Champagne, you know, he was 8 for 15, Pofé from three.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Hartnstein did one hell of a job, did one hell of a job on Wembe and not really allowing that many second chance points for the Spurs. I mean, they just played well. And that goddamn Crusoe again, and we talk about him every, every series, you know, to this point. and he's playing extremely well, extremely well. And he's been a huge different maker for them. Man.
Starting point is 00:12:20 The thing is, Joe, I get what you're saying about not wanting to try to harness him too much. But I think the thing is he breaks their momentum. Yeah. Joe, we got a seven, eight point lead. And then he gives up a couple of turnover than commit foul. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It's a tie ball game. Yeah, yeah. And that's what we saw tonight. And then a couple of times, I'm like, bro, where are you passing the ball? Yeah, yeah, he gets, he gets a little out of control now. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And I'm looking at Dylan Harper, bro, you got one of the best on ball defenders in front of you. And you try to get cute. And guess what? He's going the other way with it. You don't got handles like Kyrie. You don't have those kind of handles. Maybe eventually you will, but understand who you're going up against. There are certain situations of Joe, you just got to go.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah. All that fancy dribbling, it looks good. I mean, you had to, oh, look at him dancing. Oh, hell, he's going. He's snatching back. Oh, he's going again. Here he come. And he, ah, I, ah, ah, ah, ah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 You put that ball in front of him? Yeah. Thank you. Hey, the funny thing about it, Joe, too. When you had opinions like that, that are very good, especially lattery, they can move in public, left and right. Yeah. It's the same thing with a DB.
Starting point is 00:13:38 If you know you have a DB, that's very good in man-to-man. Yeah. You always want to put the pressure on you. the pressure on them first. Yeah. Because you're in there dancing and trying to be cute. All that does is plays into their hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It makes it, it's an advantage for them, what you plan around, pick a side, make one move, and just go. Yeah. Hey, look, look. As a young player, bro, you have to learn that on the fly. Y'all got to remember now,
Starting point is 00:14:03 Dillon Harper, he's a rookie. But I agree, I agree with you. You got to get the hell up off that ball, you got to know who guarding you. All that plan, you got to get it, you, all that high, ha, ha, is getting one high. It's going to get one high, and it's time to go.
Starting point is 00:14:16 You can't get playing around, bro. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, how many, how many? You get one high, high. Go on get by them. Yeah. Because you play it. Because you playing around with the wrong one, you got to know who you can do that with and who you can't.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You know what I mean? Because them turnovers that they were having him, Harper and Castle. Yeah, they were leading the buckets, bro. Yes. They were leaving. And they were demoralizing. I understand what you all. Sam, they got to get better in that aspect.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And I get, Chad, what you're saying? Well, Castle only had three turnovers. You don't understand. What if somebody only has one drop, but it's on fourth down in the fourth quarter, and you turn the ball over? Yeah. So he only had one drop. That's an important drop.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yes. So you understand. See, you just look at the number. See, I look at the situation in the ball game where we are. Yeah. And we got momentum. Now he gets two of those turnovers and create files. We got a seven, eight point league.
Starting point is 00:15:12 guess what? Ball games tied. Yeah. Tonight, Hardinstein outplayed Wimby. Wimby is sitting up too far outside. He ain't get nothing easy, Joe. He's got to get down on the block some.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I'm not saying he has to spend the lion's year of his time down there, but he's got to get closer to the basket. Everything he's catching them all down there, the three-point line. Yeah, because he don't want their resistance. Oh, he gets inside the three. We got this elbow in his back. Yeah. We got these, oh, we push.
Starting point is 00:15:37 That's resistance that he has to go against every time, you know, coming into that pain. I think what happens is Chad Pennieson got off to a great start and it kind of... You mean Chad? No, Chapney. Champany.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I think he scored in here. I think he had like 12 points in the first quarter. He did. He got hot. Yeah, and I think it kind of got, you know, kind of got guys off rhythm a little bit to where, look, Fox never really got into the game.
Starting point is 00:16:05 You know what I mean? No, no, he struggled tonight offensively. He did, he did. He did. And Vaseel. never really got into it neither. You know, because Penny was so hot. Dan, you know, Wimby and Harper and Kassel,
Starting point is 00:16:17 all those guys take over as far as handling the rock and making plays. But to me, man, I just think with the experience that OKC has, it just seems like, to me, they're going to prevail throughout this series. Hey, you know what, too, Unger's joke? Wemby being a three-level score and the fact that he's allowing Hardinstein to make him one-dimensional
Starting point is 00:16:39 because he doesn't want to deal with the pushing in the show, and fight, excuse me, fight his way down and the block being able to play with his back to the basket, he can't allow them to do that. He got to find a way. I'm not sure who. I said, I'm not a head coach. I'm just saying when you can score in a multitude of ways, you can't allow a player to dictate what you want to do. And you got Hardinstein and Chek Hongwood. They outplayed him on. Them two got to outplay Wemby. They did. 28 and 16, what they had. Yeah, they did tonight.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Even if you just take Hardinstein, Hardinstein, I played him head up. Yeah. And the thing is, is that what we talked about, Joe, those two guys need to be, they need to be equal to, if not better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Because now we've neutralized him with our two guys, and now we got Shay. Because we know Shay's going to win his matchup. Yeah. So now if we get those two guys to neutralize Wemby, we good. Joe, I thought the fishers had a bad stretch. That was a goaltending on Cornyn.
Starting point is 00:17:46 How did they miss that? The ball went up. The ball went up chapped foot. How do you miss that? And the ref trying to get a challenge, and y'all like, no, come on. Joe, you can't miss that. Now, in the international rules, you can go to it.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Right, right, right, right. But you can't do that in the NBA. I mean, the man got, look, I understand, both of them got size 30 shoes. One got a boat, the other got a yacht. But the ball went out with Jetfoot. It did. It did.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. Hey, man. I don't know what the rest be looking at. I don't know either. And Shay, 17 free throws, man. You know what I think? I'm thinking, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:30 They might need to cap it. You can only shoot 10 free throws in a game. What? That's your max. They said, come on, man. Hey, hey. And when I was watching, especially in that first quarter, Arcan Ocho, his body language was, it was funky.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It was stank. Yeah, he's struggling from the field job. He knows in order to get the numbers he's getting. I mean, he's got to go to the free throw line. And he does, look, he's done a great job of creating that contact. But sometimes they talk about, because the other night, they called a file on Fox, talking about Fox didn't impede his landing space. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He likes to come down all funky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does. It does. But it's, I don't know. I just know is that if they're going to knock down shots like this, it's going to be hard for them to defend. And like what they did over the night, Joe,
Starting point is 00:19:23 I thought they overhelp tonight. Yeah. In game four, they didn't overhelp. I thought they overhelp tonight and left some guys wide open. The first thing I'm going to do is that I'm going to run Caruso off the corner three. If you let him hit that first corner three, your ass in trouble. Yeah. Now, it's not to say that he can't hit.
Starting point is 00:19:40 The other points are the three. But he really loves that corner three. He does. And you've got to get him off of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they got to make some adjustments, man. You know, because you're going to have to give up something.
Starting point is 00:19:54 If you're collapsing every time the ball hits the paint, that's what you give up. You're going to have to give up them sprayouts. You're going to have to give up some contested threes. You know, San Antonio has been great. I think in men and just isolation, defense, playing, playing Shea. head up and not too much help, not overextending. Yeah, you got away from a couple times tonight. But for the most part, man, they've kept him under wraps, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm talking about that first quarter, he was pissed off at itself. I can see it. You know what I mean? And I think they've done a great job. So if Check Homrich, he has to continue to be aggressive and play with that thrust. Because he's going to, he need a number two guy who are going to really come along. See, every game, his number two guy has been somebody. different.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Shays. So, yes. He got to continue to, you know, hopefully somebody come off this bench and continue to come along for the ride. And I like, I like McCain. It was his first start, 20.7 for 19. And let me know you ain't scared of the moment, bro. Because you get them shots up.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yes. And I think the thing is, Joe, is that I thought, I thought the Spurs bench didn't play bad. They got out score 40 to 36. But that's better than damn 70-60-10 or 76 to 15. or the number they've been getting scored by, remember Joe, plus 33, plus 34. We saw what it did happen in game three. Hell, they had 76 bench points.
Starting point is 00:21:20 They had more points off the bench than the starters have. So they've done a great job. Tonight, they really did a great job. I thought Kelton Johnson had one of his better games. Carter Bryant could hit a couple of shots, but they got Harrison Barnes. That's four minutes of time that I'm watching the TV. I can never get back. Now, I realize that at some point in time in my life, I'm going to wish I had those four minutes back.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You got to. But unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get it. You got a chill. You got a chill. Man, this man here, oh, man. Hey, look, they didn't take Cornyette out the game, though. He ain't been, I'm talking about they go right at him. I'm Luke Wilson.
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Starting point is 00:25:50 Your traffic cone, Joe. Hey, when Wimby come off the court, it looked like the land. It's like everything part over. Everybody in their party and having a good time. Hey, Joe, like the Red Sea. Oh, Joe, you took the word right up my mouth. I said, they're turning to Moses. And they put the spear in the ground and they just part.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah. And the problem is, is that he's not a sharp locker. So like you said, Joe, the lane opens up. He's up and rebounds. How many opportunities did they get, he got, they got the rebound and kick out for a three. Oh, and they get a file call. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And it's like, it's like when Wembe goes to the big, Shay is one of the few guys that you'll ever see in your lifetime that when he goes to the bit, their team goes on the run. Right. Absolutely. And that's not a knock on him, Chad. I'm not saying anything, but y'all see it. So I don't know, I don't know, I don't need to preface that with a caveat.
Starting point is 00:26:40 When he goes to the bench, they're going to run. It's facts. Yeah. Denae, the game is in San Antonio, right? Yes, game six. Thursday night. Yeah. We got game six.
Starting point is 00:26:54 We got games six. I think when, when she goes to the bench, they're less predictable. Yes, you know, because you got guys now, the ball really, really. really hops and, you know, everybody can penetrate the paint and spray out for three. And then you got Hardinstein with his activity, being on the rim, getting them second chance points. That's what gets you over the hump, bro. It's the little things you're going to have to do to continue to win or to advance to the final.
Starting point is 00:27:23 So I think OKC, they're willing to do that. They are. But I thought it was Hardinstein's activity early. Yes. Yeah. Now, Shet, Shet too wrong. Shet being aggressive and a little bit more efficient than he has been in the past few games. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I still need more shots from Chick, though. I mean, I know he was great six for nine, but damn, I need, I need a few more shot attempts from him. Well, I think the thing is that when McCain took 19 and Shay took 19, that's 38. Hartinstein was six of eight, but you know, Hartnstein is going to be dunk, lob, or it's going to be that floater. That thing to the moon. He's not going to get very many more shots than back. Nah, nah,
Starting point is 00:28:08 he don't need more than. Hey, hey, he's shooting there floater to the moon over windy, big ass down now. Andy? Caruso, Caruso 5 or 10,
Starting point is 00:28:16 he 4 of 8. Caruso got to be shooting down near 55, 60% from a damn three. Oh, yeah. If he's probably better than that. Yeah, he probably about 60%. Hey,
Starting point is 00:28:26 He just crazy. Every time me shoot is going in, I ain't going to like to you. Swish it. It ain't no bouncing for haul up in the air there. There's some suspicion or doubt, he's swishing. And when he come into the game, bro, it wasn't like they had control of the game.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Like, he made big shots to put him on run. So Caruso is a huge part of what they do, bro. He played well. It's going to be hard to beat them. I mean, San Antonio won points in the paint, but second chance points. OKC was plus 11. Fast break points. OKC only had nine.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And I thought, okay, see, for the most part, did a better job of taking care of the basketball. Yeah. It's just that all turnovers aren't created equal. I mean, turning the, because sometimes your turnovers kill your runs and give them life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And so you can't just look at it and say, well, this guy only had one turnover. We got had two turnovers. You have to look at when you turn the ball over and what did your turnovers lead to. Yeah. Thank you. Come on, Spurs.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Don't do me like that. No, I think, look, you've got to look at OKC. They're not really trying to get up off this throne. When you've been king, you'll do everything that you possibly can to keep the crown. Yes, sir. But, hey, J-dub not even playing, Joe. Well, here's a problem. If Fox or Harper, if both of them don't play well,
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't think they got a chance of hell of winning the game. No. Because both of them handle the ball too much. know, careless turnovers, you know, not really making shots. It's going to be tough for San Antonio to win, bro. But I thought Castle might have played one of his better ball game. I mean, think about it, Joe. He was seven of 11.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah, no. He had 24 points, 3 of 5 from 3, 7 of 8 for the free throw line. He had 5 rebounds, 6 assists. The turnovers came early. He had three steals. Oh, that's why I say. I'd rather have to pull him back a little bit. I let him go because he's playing well.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He's playing. He's two-way player. he's gone the two-time MVP, and he putting up these type of numbers with this type of efficiency, and we're going to have to deal with a couple turnovers. You know what I mean? Yes, I agree. And I think the also, Joe, is that, Cosey, look here, sir,
Starting point is 00:30:45 I understand I love your aggressiveness, but we can't have you. I mean, because he's at five files every game, Joe. He gets his money worth. But when you pick up those files, now it takes a lot of that aggressive out of you because you picked them up so early. Yeah. And picking file up 94 feet.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I mean, sometimes, I mean, the back court, Joe. He just run, slap over the man. Ran slapping the back of SGA. Hey, hey, he's going to let you know he's here. Yeah, he running up every time, bro. Look, he wearing Shay down, bro. Shea is great that he has McCain there to handle some of the ball handling duties because it do come of time, she be looking dead tired out there.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And Castle door his job, bro, making him work. for any and everything he'd get. I mean, he played 37 minutes. Look, I mean, the Spurs had three guys with 20 plus points, but they only shot 40% from the floor. They had some really good looks at some shots that didn't go down.
Starting point is 00:31:52 It's a make or miss league. The other game four, they made those shots. OKC missed them. Tonight, the rolls were reversed. Now, okay, will the spurs come out and play with that sense of urgency, with that sense of desperation that we saw from OKC? Yeah. They ain't got no choice.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Well, hey, hey, hey, hey. Now we got to put it back on Wimby now because if he has one of them monster games, this is what changes it. But if he plays average like this, no, they can't win. Yeah, you can't win. No. If you look at the games that they won, he's been phenomenal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Look at game one. Look at game four. He didn't play bad in game two. He had 21 and 17, but his imprint, his fingerprint wasn't on the game like it was in game one in game four. Yeah. He has to be that. Yeah, there are a very few times that your team can win a game without your superstar going off. Now, we've seen OKC win some games with shit, but they're not there yet.
Starting point is 00:32:56 They're still really, really young. Yeah. As young as this team is, this is. This is a veteran ball club now. Don't look like, well, man, this guy's only 24. But look, I mean, they're in the Western Conference Finals this year. They went to the NBA finals and won last year. They were in the Western Conference Finals, if I'm not mistaken, a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So this is a veteran ball club when it comes to these type of scenarios. Ben, they're done that. And the more you're in these situations, the more calming and the more at ease you are of being in these situations. You know what too? when I think about it too on. If you think about. What you think about? Wimby, not playing well tonight, right?
Starting point is 00:33:38 He had, what, what 60? He had 19 tonight, right? He had 20, he had 26 and 20 points, six rebounds, one assist, two steals, three blocks. So, he only had one rebound at the half, though. You can't do that. That's not going to cut it.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And obviously the thunder know that. If we can nullify Wemby, not allow him to get down in a little close, not allowed him to do anything from you know from mid-range always have my at the goddamn arc you know trying to play from out there he wasn't efficient from three so what do we do in that game we take that same formula and we try to do the same thing so if they take him win me away that mean everybody else got to step up joe fox can't have a night again like he had the night but seil can't happen to the night like he had the night they just can't so what if they say
Starting point is 00:34:28 you know what, we're not letting women get nothing. Everybody else is going to have to beat us. I don't know how. Outside of Champany and got them that damn castle, everybody else got to step up because they might go into,
Starting point is 00:34:44 they might go on to the next game and say, you know what, Wimby ain't getting nothing at all. That's what. Well, the problem you have, if he's not having one of those extraordinary type of games, Ocho, You know, you don't really, he don't draw all that attention.
Starting point is 00:35:02 See, if he gets going offensively and he's affecting the game, and then, well, okay, boom, now we got to double him. And he's spraying out. He's getting assists, you know, and he's scoring and getting second chance points. That's when they're a much better team because he opens up the floor for the guys around him. I think the thing that they're doing, that they didn't do the first two games, is that they're finding him and they're putting a body on him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Whether it's Hardenstein, whether it's Chet, whether it's Lou Dore, whether it's Shay. Because he got a couple of files. Yeah. Because, you know, he's trying to put a body on him. He's like, I got to hold it. Yeah. So if you notice, no matter where the ball goes up, somebody got,
Starting point is 00:35:41 find him, just like when you're in high school. Yeah. Find somebody and put a body on him. Yeah. No free. It's kind of easy when you, you know, you got a guy and the shot goes up. But zone is kind of hard because you're just like, okay, I'll block out of area. And you let guys slip through the crack.
Starting point is 00:35:57 but I thought okay C has done a great job since game two because remember Joe he was averaging 20 rebounds a game through the first two games yeah now that's gone all the way down I don't think he's had maybe maybe one I don't even know if he's had another double-digit rebounding game yeah because they've made a concerted effort to make sure when that ball goes up be it offensively or defensively we've got to locate him and put a body on it yep don't give his ass no
Starting point is 00:36:27 free runs and hit to the rim. None of that. Chug him. Every chance you get, put a body on him and look. Hopefully, throughout this series, it wears him down. Since game one and two, like, oh, Ocho, since game one and two,
Starting point is 00:36:43 he ain't really had really that type of effect on the game like that, you know, from a defensive standpoint, you know, 20 rebounds. If he gets you 20 rebounds and 20 points, bro, it's hard to beat him if he's playing like that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing was, he was efficient with it.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah. Now, if he's going to get, if he's going to have to take 25 shots to get 30 points, and he's only going to make 11 of them. Yeah. Now, he's going 14 or 25 and getting you, Joe, getting you 18, 19, 23, 24 rebounds, you're going to have hell on your hand because now you've got to come. They haven't had to double him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:20 They didn't double him tonight. So he wasn't able to locate open guys. He had a couple of careless turnovers, but hey. And I think that, I think that physicality is messing with him, though. Think about it. He's 0 for five tonight from three. Did he make a three? He made the last game.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Did he make a three last? Yeah, I remember he had to work in half court. Yeah. O for five. And he opened up the game with a three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. O for five tonight, though, seems as though, you know, he don't really have a lot of legs, which is why his rebound in is down so much.
Starting point is 00:37:56 much. And I think the physicality is weighing in on it, you know, throughout this series. And if you, OKC, this is what you want. We want to try to wear him down. That's all we can do, Ocho. We can't do nothing else. A boy too big, man. Right? Yeah. Yeah. If. Yeah. If, if Hardinstein and Chet plays like this again and Wemby plays like he played tonight, there will not be a game seven. Hello. It's really that simple.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It's really that simple. Don't say it like that. Don't say it like that. No, because, oh, Joe, he has to counsel those two guys out. I'm not counting on Cornett to give us anything. I didn't count on him to give us anything coming into the series. And the problem that you're running into, Joe, like you're right, he is getting tired because you know why?
Starting point is 00:38:45 He can't get a breather. Because if they're down four, by the time Cornynett comes in there, they're down 12-14. And Coach Johnson doesn't want the game to get out of hand. So he's not able to get his normal, a lot. of rest because the game starts to creep away from. Yeah, yeah. That's the issue. She gets his normal allotment of rest.
Starting point is 00:39:06 He played the entire second, first quarter, and he's not coming in to probably about seven and a half, maybe seven minutes. Every once in a while, he'll come in at the eight minute mark. But for the most part, he's not coming in before seven minutes.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Nah, no, no. I don't think there's no way that OKC wins game six, though. Keep it real. I think this, I think. What's what I'm talking about, Joe? I don't. Because.
Starting point is 00:39:32 You know ball. You know ball, Joe. I thought you said Joe did no ball. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah, man, come on, man. Chill.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Chill. Hey, you got to chill. Hey, you got to chill. You know ball simply because you know for the fact that they're going back to San Antonio. The nun's going to be in the stands, huh? You know, once they put them hands on, uh, on God damn whimby, you already know what the result's going going to be in game six. Go, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Go ahead. Finish. Well, I think, I think that his support. If they put the hands on women, women might get your 40 and 30, oh, Joe. Corrudec gave your 7 and 8 last time and they put the hands on him. Listen, I think his supporting can is going to play a lot better
Starting point is 00:40:11 in game six. Yeah. Well, he better. I'll have to show, I'm going to have to show up to San Antonio and put these CDs on it. Ceds? So, but they're going to need to play him. The one thing about you, you know, say about, you know, the OKC Thunder having been in this situation, they don't lose sight of it.
Starting point is 00:40:33 They don't normally let opportunity slip away. Because you know, look, I'm not trying to put off tomorrow for what I can do today. Yeah. Because I know I'm a twist ankle. I'm a overreaction or something. Anything could happen. Yeah. Anything could absolutely happen.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So I give okay. You know what? Just give OKC credit. This is about the O KC tonight. I don't want to take any, I don't want to say, well, you know, X, Y, and Z, but I think O KC took this ball game from the way they came out. Yeah, they got down early,
Starting point is 00:41:09 but they weathered the storm, and when they hit back, and it seems like, I thought what you call it was making a run, what, that third quarter? Yeah, yeah. Cut it, when they cut it to six Joe? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I thought, okay, I mean, they cut a 20-point lead to, what, how many? Five. They cut a 20-point lead to five, just like that. Yeah. That's the scary thing, hey, and that's the scary thing because you know the potential that the Spurs have and what they could potentially do. Like, it wouldn't be a lot of people surprised if the Spurs won this series, but I just think some of the mistakes that they make just come back to Honnbrough because they're so young.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yep. But they're never out of a game because of how hard they play and they compete. So they're never going to be out of the damn game. Yeah, like you say, they, they, they, they. chop back into their lead so quick and then they say, you know, boom, a couple turnovers said, now you back down nine, 11, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:07 Mm-hmm. And I think the thing is is that what makes you, okay, C, so unique is that a lot of teams don't have the answer. Like when the spurs go on that run, a lot of teams can't withstand that onslaught. Right. Okay, C, like, okay, y'all go, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:23 oh, y'all just wanted a 14-2 run. Watch this. Oh, my. Now they go on a 12-4 run. Yeah. Yeah. And push the lead right back. You cut it down to five, now it's right back to 14, just like that. Yeah. But one thing we got to remember now, we're watching two of the best defensive teams in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:42:43 They probably one and two. Yep. I agree. You know, I understand the way the game is being played and how they are. You know, it's pretty typical. You know, two great defensive teams making it hard on one another. That's why you see so many peaks in valleys, like great performances then, you know, not as great.
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Starting point is 00:45:31 Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Can you imagine? I would buy. I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:46:09 You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just think it's going to come down to home court advantage for the next couple games. Yeah, they're going to have to do. Kelton Johnson have five fouls,
Starting point is 00:46:35 Castle, Champany. They got to do a better job. They got to do a better. They can't, they can't let Shea go to the free throw line 17 times, Joe. They can't. You got to keep it. I think, I think a good number for him is probably about 10. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah. Huh? Hey, he doesn't master being able to manipulate, getting to the free throw line. Well, he- manipulating the system. He found a loophole. Hey.
Starting point is 00:47:03 He's playing it really well, whether people like it or not. He is, man. He's manipulating them dudes so good out there. Because, look, he's seven for 19 from the field, so he ain't like he's shooting no hell of a percentage. Like, he's missing his fair share of shots. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:20 But any chance he gets, he fill a little contact, yeah, he's going to give you a little flare, a little head back. Like, he's going to, you know what I mean? He's going to sit. He's going to sell it now. He's going to sell it, but I don't blame him. I don't blame him. I ain't going to lie. I've caught fish that flop less than shea. Hell, I didn't know there was a lie when I pulled the ass out of the water.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I mean, I see. Come on that, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. But he got, hey, he got to be, he got to be in the 30s, bro, for them to win. Yes. Yes. He does.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And it looks like, Joe, his 30 is coming from, a lot of it is coming from the free throw line. because they're doing an outstanding job of forcing him to take. Like you said, if you're going to make these difficult shots, if you're going to make 13, 14 of the 19 shots you take and they're going to be difficult, I just, hey, I just throw my head. I ain't nothing I can do it. Hey, I give up.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you shooting them long two, 17, 18, 19 footers. You think you, you think Shae can make enough for them to beat us? What we're going to see? And they play, hey, look, and they're playing great defense on them. bro. Like, you know, they pluck him a couple times.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Like, when last time y'all really see that, bro? You don't really see Shay get his pocket picked or guys play great of defense. But it's the same way with Castle and Dillon Harper. You know, Kays and Walsack comes in. He picks one of their pockets, you know, in open court. Like, bro, there's some good, these guards get to it. Very good on-ball defenders. They got active hands.
Starting point is 00:48:56 They're young. And so they got great lung capacity. Yeah. So, you know, that's what you got to have. I mean, because the thing is, Joe, I'm trying to wear you down. Yeah. Look, I understand I might not have an impact on you in the first quarter to the second quarter, but come late third quarter and fourth quarter, now can you still, can you still function when you're tired?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Will you still have the mental capacity late in the ball game to be as sharp as you were in the fourth quarter? Right. We're going to find out. You say, yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Because I'm gonna keep houndy. I'm gonna pick your ass up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. And guess what? Yeah, you might get by me a time or two. You might cross me up once or twice, cool. But you're gonna have to do that shit for 48 minutes. Every time you're out here on the court, I'm gonna make you go into your bag. You're going to show me.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Oh, course. It's going to be very interesting to see who calls the game on Thursday. Obviously, we had Tony Brothers the night. We had capers, and we had right. Right. Yeah. Who we got? Oh, oh, yeah, Tony Brothers, Capers, and Sean Wright worked tonight.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Now, you got Ed Malloy, you got Zach Zarb, you got Tibbitt, Tivins. I don't know who, you know, who's going to be, but it's going to be very interesting to see. I don't know if they get Scott Foster. He just had game four. They need to, you know, they call Scott the extender. And you want a game to go little further? I got you. Hey, they need to keep Tony brothers out there, though, for show.
Starting point is 00:50:34 You see him and Miss Johnson have a little back and forth today? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you see, hey, this is I told me. He told me just like this here. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, the coach, they, hey, Miss Johnson, a whole energy change was, once Tony leaned in,
Starting point is 00:50:55 it was like, what would you say? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told it ain't nothing to play with. I'm trying to figure out when would they know the refs?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Because like I said, Ed Miloid, Josh, Zach. Probably tomorrow. Do they? Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. But the Thunder, one went away to going back to back-to-back NBA finals. Thanks to a 127, 114th victory.
Starting point is 00:51:31 They have, what they have? Five guys and double figures. Isaiah Hardenstein, 12 points, 15 rebounds. Chet Homren, 16 points, 11 rebounds. Shea, 32 points. Jared McCain, 20 points. Alex Caruso continued his hot play. Great shooting from the floor.
Starting point is 00:51:51 22 points on four of eight shooting from the three point line. He was a perfect from the free throw line. And they win this ball game, 127 to 114. Well, we bet, Ocho, what we have? What we bet on this? Man, don't do that, Joe. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Don't do that. You know we, hey. Listen, you know we ain't back because you ain't paid my 500 from the last series. Hey, I'm like, Debo, when you see me coming, you better start tucking your chain, partner.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You hear me? Yeah, because I'm patting your pockets. Yeah, all that. Like, oh, here come, Joe. Let me just tuck my heart in. Yeah. Matter of fact, Joe, I'm going to do you one better. When I see you coming out,
Starting point is 00:52:28 I'm going to put my chain on you and day you to walk away with it. Damn. Damn. You can change right here, dick hard. Huh? You're gonna put the chain around Joe neck. I'm gonna put the chain right.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Hey, I'm gonna run his little pockets and everything when I see him. I'm gonna touch him up. Hey, look what you got up on you. What you got up on you? Yeah. Okay. Hey, I'm Joe, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:52:50 The man said he's about to have your pocket like rabbit ears. Yeah. Hey, hey, pick him up by his angles. Oh, shake your little land. Hey, hey, get what you got, what you got you can keep. You hear me? I like it. I like it.
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Starting point is 00:55:13 Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
Starting point is 00:55:30 They had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit it. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Come on. Could you believe? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:56:38 he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the balls. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I like it. I like it. This isn't going to help to skip the chatter before the game started. Fans Notes NBA Store had two teams listed at finals bounds. Oh, man. Come on, man. Why are they always trying to say I game rig, bro?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Hey, a little conspiracy theory. Come on, and y'all got a chill. They say the NFL is rigged. They say the NBA. A is rig. Hell, they seem. Well, how are you going to miss print like that? This was before the game.
Starting point is 00:57:40 They ain't, hey, hey, they ain't got no crew like we got over here in nightcap. They made a mistake, huh? You know what I'm saying? Hey. They made an honest mistake. That was a good one. I don't know how honest it is, but this damn show a mistake.
Starting point is 00:57:57 But the A, hey, that's how, hey. But while y'all are playing, that's, you know O KC going to beat them, man. They're going to win. They're going to win. Oh, simmer down, Joe. I'm just keeping it real. I'm just telling you from my eye, from what I see. Well, your ass been bad.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Your ass been like Ray Charles. Hey, you need to chill. You got a chill. You got a chill, bro. I'm just saying, I'm just saying I'm not being disrespectful. I'm just being honest. All right, man. Yeah, but I hope we can get a game seven.
Starting point is 00:58:26 We had a few. We had a few, you know, we had the first round. We got Orlando and Detroit game seven. We got Toronto and Cleveland go to a game seven. We got Cleveland and Detroit go to a game seven. We can definitely use another game seven cups, but we've had some blowouts along the way as well. Before we get to the next topic, Ocho, you were right.
Starting point is 00:58:54 There was more footage of you playing in T's celebrity basketball game. Guys, let's take a look at this footage. Let me see, man. Ohio! Oh, Joe! Ah! Sejan! Oh, Joe!
Starting point is 00:59:08 Oh, Joe! What happened? Oh, you know. Oh, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, here you go. This is what we do here. Here, you smoked that one part. This is what I was.
Starting point is 00:59:21 You had that one. Yeah, yeah. That went in. What y'all talk about? No, it didn't. Man, come on, bro. He didn't go in. What y'all looking at?
Starting point is 00:59:29 Joe, is y'all black? No. Play it again. Man, what's wrong with this man? This man thing. That man didn't even touch the rim. Oh, Joe. Hey, y'all, y'all must be blind, huh?
Starting point is 00:59:41 Oh, Joe. It's going in. Oh, Joe. Come on, man. Yeah, when somebody else hit it, when somebody else shoot it, it probably went in. Not the one you,
Starting point is 00:59:50 not the what you did. Hey, eight, eight, them six, eight fellas be aggressive, be aggressive, Brian that got down. Man, nobody even touched you. You took eight steps. Nobody touched you. I took two step, Joe.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Don't play at me, Joe. I'm saying nobody, but you dribbled from half court to the goal, nobody even touch you. You smoked a layup, bro. Oh, Joe, I was looking like Kyrie right there. Boy, you saw that filet? Man, you saw the filet, Joe? That shit pretty garbage.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And the man, you missed the whole rim, Joe, Ocho. Yeah, you did. The guy came in and got the tip, bro. Man, I'm thinking, I'm thinking you saying, You're saying there's more footage. I'm thinking we feel to see this man get down. Man, come on. That's what you're showing?
Starting point is 01:00:37 I see how y'all do. Y'all, where's the footage of the rest of the points I scored? That's what I want to know. Oh, Joe, you do realize we're not in charge of the films, right? That's what they're seeing. Y'all sat. Y'all trying to sabotage me and make me look bad because I'm black. See?
Starting point is 01:00:52 No, that was easy. Hey, y'all might, you know what? Y'all might be put on some white hoods. That's what y'all need to do. Hey. What are you doing with me? You don't need any help from Joe and that. to make you look bad on the basketball court.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Man. You're plenty good by yourself. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? Hey, Joe, and I, hey, chat, make sure y'all watching tomorrow, too, now. You know, we play tomorrow now. What time y'all play? 12.30. We, 1230.
Starting point is 01:01:17 On ESB? No, you got, it's streaming. It's true. I'm gonna see the link. Hey, now you want to see balling. Now, watch me on that goddamn soccer field. Yeah, send me the link, bro. I want to see what you're going to do.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Hey, because I, listen, basketball, you know, I don't like that. You know how I feel about that. Now, that soccer field, where I got them feet from up. Oh, Cho, we saw you last year. Last year, what? Have you gotten better? In what? In soccer.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I'm better at soccer than football. What are you talking about? I get that. But I'm saying, are you better than what you put on display? Remember the last time we saw you? No, I don't. At this very tournament. P. Mac did a bicycle kick.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Which one? P. Mac did a bicycle kick in the, same tournament. You remember that? Yeah, but what does they have to do with me being great? Exactly. That's my point. I was expecting to see you do that. You're telling me Pat McAfee doing a bite. He didn't do it by, but he passed it to somebody that somebody else did about it. No, he did the kid.
Starting point is 01:02:16 No, he did not. He passed it. I'm trying to tell you. Hey, what place you were taking, take it out of his talk. He didn't take it by the he took it out of the air. Somebody passed it to him and up there and out of the air. He put it in. He was the one who assisted the pass from the. the right to the left. We don't find it. That's all right. As for it to find it.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, fine. We fit to find it. Oh, Joe. What place y'all came in last year? All right. That was year before last. That was, that was, that was two years. I didn't play that.
Starting point is 01:02:48 That ain't, he asked you what place, not what year, the place. Oh, I don't remember. Now, he don't remember. Guess what you know what you noticed? You know what you notice? People don't remember when they get first. Oh, we came in first. Hey.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Now you didn't come in. I don't know. Hey, you do realize these ain't, this is all, these are all former professionals and professionals out here. This ain't no. You told me you're a professional. Huh? You told me you might as well to be a professional.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I am. Right now, I could, honestly, right now I could probably be on, I come off the bench from, from Madrid right now. I'm talking about it, Ray's hell. And raise hell. Oh, Lord. Her mercy. Hey, right now.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Hey, Joe. What's up? Watch my feet tomorrow, Joe. All right, I'm going to check you out. Is the ball going in the net? All that feet ish ain't nothing. Because how many times we don't see guys run rounds and can't catch the ball?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Hey, we're here. Ball going in the dead. Hey, um? Hey, Joe. What's up? Who had the greatest feet of all time? They say it. I think they say it's you, ain't it?
Starting point is 01:04:02 All right. Just watch the morrow, Joe. Okay. You're right, Ocho. I know I'm right. I'm never wrong, huh? I'm never wrong. I told you that.
Starting point is 01:04:11 You'd be trying to tell me you loud and wrong. Okay, well, where you are? Pull up, pull up Ocho's. We're fit to find your highlight. I ain't had no highlights. I just told you the first game is tomorrow at 1230. You, Joe, I'm trying to figure out a man say that he was better, he's better in soccer at football.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Now, you're talking about a man that was a six-time pro bowler and a two-time all-pro. Right. He's better at soccer. That's trash. Trash. Trash. What?
Starting point is 01:04:43 I was a two-time pro bowler. Huh? You hear me? I was a four-time all pro because of the footwork that I learned from playing soccer. I'm not in a- Okay. So that should be able, you should be able to go out there, get us a couple of goals, get us a couple assists.
Starting point is 01:04:57 That's all I'm saying. Oh, I had three assists. But you know how hard it didn't score? This shit ain't easy? That's, hey, hey. Are it easy to scoring the NFL? Oh, for me, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Okay, but you said you was better at soccer than football, so it should be even easier. Right. It's not, I'm just telling you. It's hard for you, it's hard for either one of you to understand. Anybody in the chat that actually, it actually knows the game,
Starting point is 01:05:24 I mean, I'm looking at messy. They look it look easy. Harlem look easy. Lewandowski, it look easy. Suarez, it looks easy. Embate it looks easy. Messy, it looks easy. You do realize your name of some of the best strikers of all times?
Starting point is 01:05:40 You do realize the Ocho is one of the best receivers. You do realize that, right? Did you just compare me to holler? You just compare me to Juarez? We talked about legendary strikers. Like, stop playing. Hey, I'm, you weren't the legendary receiver? I was all right.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I was all right. Now he all right. You see that, that's your dog. Not he all right. I thought he was him. I thought you was him. Well, you know, hey, my last name was him. half school.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Hey. Nah, nah, no, no, Joe, you're gonna like it, though.
Starting point is 01:06:12 You're gonna like it. The only, the only thing I'm actually good at is playing soccer, ping pong, pool. No, that,
Starting point is 01:06:20 that, I watch you in ping pong, no, I promise you that. I will watch you. I will watch you in ping pong, bro. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I'm telling you. Man, this bad here. This bad said he was better in football. better in soccer than football. I am. I'm just being honest with you. I am.
Starting point is 01:06:40 We can't get no, we can't get no goal. So we should be at least get one goal. You should, you know, I'm going to give you a brace tomorrow, huh? I'm going to give you two. You will give me two what? Two goals. You will get two goals tomorrow. I'm going to give you two goals tomorrow, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Okay. And you know who we plan? What? Y'all don't know soccer team. We're playing Kagari. It's an Italian team from Italy. They flew all the way from Italy down here. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:06 These boys should be jet lag. Y'all should run them off the field. I'm playing with a team from Spain called Villarreal, Yellow Submarine. Hey, hey, I'm going to keep it real. He ain't going to get no two goals. Hey, Joe, let's bet something. Let's bet it. Let's bet it.
Starting point is 01:07:22 How much? You bet his ass whooping, because I know you ain't going to pay me. If you bet this ass whoop open, that's what we can bet. Hey, Joe, why wouldn't I pay you, Joe? Yeah, because I track record. our history is bad. So, you know, I understand that. So the only thing I can bet you,
Starting point is 01:07:39 the only thing I can bet you is an ass whoop. Hey, hey, Joe. Matter of fact, you know what? Hey, we got the legendary World Cup goalkeeper Pepe Raina. Yeah. I mean, y'all don't know who he is. I mean, maybe somebody in the chat might know. Y'all know Pepey Rainer, right?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Those that watch out of him. I don't know it, but I've heard of him. Yeah, he's not as our goalie. We got some good players because it's a really good player. These are former players that played at the highest level. So I'm sure they got some guys. on their squad that are like you, right? That didn't play the game of soccer?
Starting point is 01:08:08 No, no, no, everybody's former players and some current academy. So how you get on the team? Because that's how good I am. What do you talk about? What you mean, how? Huh? That's what I'm trying to tell you, B. Hey, hey, Oto, you think I'd be a hell of a goalie?
Starting point is 01:08:22 You know, with my six, eight frame. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, you'd be like Cautoir. Yeah, yeah, nice and tall. But then it's all about angle, Joe. Yeah. Yeah, I understand the angles and making the goal small, depending on where the threat is coming from. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:39 You got to shrink the goal the best way you can. You've got to be big, Joe, make yourself big. I could do that. I could do that. I know I could do that. I could be a hell of a goal. I'll be sting as hell. You're going to get no way.
Starting point is 01:08:48 You probably couldn't even get no goal on Brianna Scurry, Ocho. Huh? Ocho. He couldn't get no goal on who? Brianna Scurry. Hey. Hey, Joe, I swear, if when we come on the show, tomorrow, if we on tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yeah. If y'all don't watch the game and y'all can't tell me what I did, I promise when I see y'all it's on site. Oh, it's on site regardless, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't going to act like it don't exist. It exists. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:21 It's on site me and you, partner. Hey, Joe, you sure you want to do that? You got a family and a wife at home, you know that, huh? That's okay. That's okay. Wait, why would you want to go back to your wife and your kids? Missy and damn, Daddy, what happened to your face? I'm not, they ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 01:09:34 They ain't going to happen. They ain't going to happen. I got something for you, though. Hey, Joe, and you got icing your refrigerator? Do I got ice in my refrigerator? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's going to make show because you're going to need it. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:48 You're going to love him up on Joe? Hey, matter of fact, I'm not even going to ball at my fist. I'm going to slap him open hand. Damn! Boy, that's the most disrespectful thing you could do to a man now. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I don't. I call it Salt and Pepper. I mean, I'm, I'm gonna bring it, I'm gonna bring it east
Starting point is 01:10:06 and I'm gonna take it west. Damn. Oh, uh, I'm gonna hit him squirt dead in his nose, make his eyes water up. His ass ain't gonna beat me nothing. Yeah, yeah. He's talking to all this. Hey, right in his nose.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, I hope you're in shape, boy. Yeah, boy, listen. Hey. Hey, boy, I'm gonna put you through the, blender, you hear me? Okay. I'll put you through the blender, boy.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Man, Ocho, all you got to do is tell the man that you're sorry that you stood him up. And I'm sure Joe, I'm sure Joe being the man that he is. Damn now. You know what, okay, it happened. Just don't let it happen again. Nah, I'm a beat his... Matter of fact, I'm standing on business.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I'm a beat his head. Yeah. Yeah. I want you to stand on a bidding, partner, because that damn show what I'm standing on. You hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You that joke, them 30-inch pythons? Okay, I see.
Starting point is 01:11:04 When I wrap him, right? I see. You're gonna choke him out? Huh? You're gonna choke him out? Man, choke him out. Man, his little ass ain't gonna be able to touch me. What?
Starting point is 01:11:15 I got hands, my hands registered. And don't try to sue me either, Joe, when I beat your ass either. I know how y'all be. Y'all love to call the police and go to them. He touched me. Don't, don't. Don't sue me. Damn.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Hey, I'm doing a favor. Half ass write up a wave or something. Oh, you want a waiver. You want Joe to sign a waiver. Yeah, let me say it. Because he didn't type to run to the police. I will whoop his ass, boy. I'll tell you, chat.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I promise y'all. Boy, I won't put a mean demonstration on this boy. He ain't going to be, he ain't going to say Joe no more. I got you, I got y'all, chat. Hey, Joe, you see how loose my shoulders is? I see how my shoulders. That's how my shoulders. That's how he's not.
Starting point is 01:12:00 damn shoulders. Huh? Yeah, he's going to say, he's going to say JJ, huh? Every time I hate you, I'm going to say dynamite. Hey, it's going to be bad. When I'm done what you're going to look like.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Three minutes. I really don't need that long, but I got to keep them around for the chat so they can have a little fun with and make a few memes about them and all that. That's all you need, Joe? Yeah, three minutes. Three minutes. Damn.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You're going to be like Beasley. The man's ain't put down a mean demonstration, though, show. A mean demonstration, though. I may have him like Beas, he tapping out. Hey, we got, who you got? You got Ocho, you got ISO. Man, please.
Starting point is 01:12:41 We got one round, three minutes. What? One round? Yeah. Nah. And it don't matter what it is. I'm whooping his head. No, Joe said that's all he needs.
Starting point is 01:12:50 So that's all we're putting up there. Hey, hey, Joe going to be tired the first 30 seconds, man. You crazy. My breath, hey, the best thing I got is my breathing. My breathing had to how to be calm and relax. Wait, this ain't yoga. This ain't yoga. I already got you.
Starting point is 01:13:05 This ain't blah, I already got you. I already got you. I'm already in your head. I see it now. Hey, that's what I want you to think. No, I'm the trash talker. Joe, you're not the trash talker.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Yeah, yeah. But I can beat you at your own game. That's the thing, though. No, you can't. Yeah. Yeah. A matter of fact, hey, unk, with every punch, I'm going to talk to him.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Then I tell you not the play with me. Hey, every, just like my grandma used to do when she used to beat me. Oh! And that bell hit me. She was talking. Hey, hey, that's the kind of whoop you're going to get. Hey, Chad, I'll probably, that boy gonna be in a heap of trouble. You hear me?
Starting point is 01:13:43 I got you. They're gonna put that a mean demonstration. Man. Boy, hey, you're talking about creating some content. Oh. Yeah, we're-old man. You might need to put them cigars down for the next couple of weeks. I'm in shake, uncle.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I play, I've been playing soccer the past, what, 10 years, every day, every weekend. I'm good. I'm gonna run through. Okay, I'm just trying to look out for the best interest. Ocho, look at the, look at the, uh, the chat. What's the, what's the poll? The results, who you got, Ocho or ISO, 74% got ISO, 26% got Ocho. Shit, hey, hey, hey, that's right.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Hey, I thought I'd be more like 95, 97. I'm pissed out about it. Hold on. See, that's the problem. That's the problem with the people that voting. That's how the person who got in office got in their night because they're always picking the wrong shit. No, no, chat know what's going on. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Hey, you see that side frame? You see, you see all that? Yeah. Yeah. Understand what come behind that too, boy. Ain't none of pressure. You hear me? I mean, I'm going to pressure watch that boy.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 01:15:05 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
Starting point is 01:15:23 We don't care where you hear it. On Humor Me with Robert Sligo and Friends, we help make you funnier on this episode. My guest's Bob, Odin Kirk, and Kids in the Halls, Bruce McCullough, try and help the Kazoo Kid and Tazan Day be famous again. What if there's an alternate universe show where you guys are incredibly popular? Well, and they could travel up the land doing meet and greets. They're constantly needed at malls. Listen to humor me with Robert Smiglin and Friends on the IHard Radio app,
Starting point is 01:15:51 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Kunky, his best friend, and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast, Hope From a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:17:07 We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come until he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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