Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Thunder Eliminate Nuggets + Justina Valentine ROASTS Ocho

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder eliminating Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets in the NBA Playoffs. Later, Justina Valentine joins to talk her journey in hip-hop and roast Ocho.01:47 - Intro04:00 - Thunder Eliminate Nuggets57:12 - Justina Valentine joins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and they carried over to the second quarter, it really wasn't much of a ball game. But y'all know me. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle. Okay, mid-afternoon cap. But I'm still your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co-host, Liberty City's own

Bengal Ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler All-Pro, that's Chad Ochocinco-Johnson. Also joining us tonight to talk all things basketball, our contributor, who's been joining us for the last month, month and a half, Arkansas native, University of Arkansas alum, number 10 pick in the NBA draft. Y'all know him, Iso Joe. Joe Johnson.

Joe, thanks for joining us again. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you so much for your support and your continued support. Thank you for graciously accepting Joe. He's been unbelievable for us.

So we look forward to seeing him in the future. Hold on. Yeah, we're very accepting of Joe. We love Joe. We like everything he contributes, especially when it comes to basketball. But what I'm trying to understand is I've been begging to play him one-on-one,

and he don't want no smoke. Hey, Chin, we got time. We got time, Ocho. Listen, man, my time is valuable. That's why I wear a watch. Hey, you ain't got to be in no rush to get this, baby. Just chill out. You're going to get it.

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Tickets can be found at SheaSheaMedia.com slash tour. That's SheaSheaMedia.com slash tour. Go get your tickets now. The Thunder advance to the Western Conference Finals. Thanks to a demolition job, a 32-point win over the Denver Nuggets. SGA was sensational in Game 7, 35 points, three steals, three or four from the three-point line, plus 32. Also, Jalen Williams, he got his game back.

Also, he's 10 of 17, two or five from the three, two or three from the free-throw line, five rebounds, seven assists still, plus 35. But I thought the biggest difference in the ballgame was Alex Caruso. They did something we hadn't seen in a very long time. I don't think I've seen it since high school. They played a box in one. They played zone all across the court, and they said,

Caruso, we want you to annoy the hell out of Jokic. And he did an unbelievable job because in 26 minutes, he was plus 40. He gave you 11 points, 5 of 7 from the field, 1 of 3 from the three-point line. He has three assists, three steals, plus 40 in 26

minutes of action. And I don't think you can get any more than what they – he gave them everything they thought they would get from him. He's always been known as a defender. Now he's added a little offense to his game. Joe, watching this game, I thought the Nuggets came out really, really well. But you kind of saw towards the end of that first quarter, they started turning the ball over.

And when you turn the ball over against a team that got young legs, they get out on you and transition. And they turn those turnovers into points. And I thought they really flipped the game late in the first quarter, and then they carried it all over into the second quarter. When you watch this game, I mean, you probably thought, like, I was like, okay, the Nuggets came to play today. Aaron Gordon's sucking it up.

Knowing that hamstring is bad, you could tell the way he was moving. It really inhibited what he was able to do. What you like about what you saw from the Thunder once they seized control of this ballgame late in the first quarter? I mean, that first quarter was exciting. But it made me a little nervous for OKC because, you know, Denver came out with it on their mind. But when I was sitting there watching the game,

I'm like, is Bron going to win the game for him? Because he got off to a great start as far as getting some easy buggies he got going, but I said, that ain't going to last long. You know what I mean? And then I'm watching Gordon run up and down the court. Ain't no way. They supposed to let him off the hook. He supposed to put him in pick and roll before they get into their zone.

You got to make him work, make him move. He couldn't get up and down that floor, Arkin Ocho. Yeah. So, for me, I thought OKC came out and done their thing. They took care of game seven. When they finally did get a hold of the game, you know, I felt like they put their foot in the gas and they just kept going. They didn't let up.

And it's good to see that young team come out, take care of home court, because I'm going to be honest with y'all. I don't know about y'all, but I don't want to see a hobbled Denver team going in. But, you know, I'm glad OKC handled business. It was a great game. I'm glad to see that they came out and they took care of business at home. Yeah. Go ahead, Ocho.

I was going to say, listen, the cream always rise to the top, especially a game of this magnitude. It's game seven. So you want the MVP to come up, I was going to say, listen, the cream always rise to the top, especially a game of this magnitude. It's game seven. So you want the MVP to come up, to show out when it matters most, which is back against the wall. Obviously, he lost the previous game to Denver. But SGA came out, Unc. He delivered the biggest moment of his career, obviously, to date.

I'm sure there will be more to come. 35-12 for 19. Shoot. Unc, he was unstoppable. He took advantage of all the mismatches. He tossed the goddamn dim and drop covers. See, in the closeout.

See, see, Joe, I'm learning that. I see, I see. Uncle Himalingo. Uncle Himalingo. I hear it, I hear it. Listen, he was efficient and he was able to control Denver's crowd very early.

Well, I think the thing also, Joe, is that you can tell Denver's not used to playing a zone because they kept giving up law backdoor lobs they kept giving up the back door they kept giving the ball up giving it up in the post and then now the guy turns around he got guys wide open for threes and they didn't know how to turn and put bodies on bodies to keep people off the offensive glass yeah so now you see okc getting offensive rebounds. Now you see them getting easy putbacks because you're not, you know, you go play a zone like,

okay, we're going to play this zone. You work on it a little bit and shoot around. And you might hit it five or six times, you know, five or six minutes. But that's not what you normally do. It's just a change up. You try to throw the team off their rhythm. And you can tell they're not used to playing the zone

because they gave up so many lives. They gave up the ball to the middle. The one thing you don't want to do in a zone is give the ball up in the middle. Right. I have a question. Yeah, go ahead. And Joe, y'all could probably attest to this

and answer it better than me. Why would you change up what you're doing in game seven defensively? Why would you even run zone when that's something you really haven't been doing much of when you had success doing what you've already been doing previously? Because we're trying to protect Aaron Gorin because we know he can't move. He can't move laterally. So we got to try to protect him. And so we're trying to protect him and we're trying to give them something

different than what they're used to. Let's see if they can make some shots outside. But because that's not something that, it's not like Syracuse. You play Syracuse, Jim Boeheim, you're going to see that 2-3 zone. Right. And you might get man-to-man late in the game because they're trying to get steals. But other than that, you're going to see 2-3. That's what they do.

So you understand that. So now I'm just trying to change up the look, Ocho. You know, hey, we're a single high safety team. Right. But you know what? To give you a different look, we might sprinkle a little quarters in there. We might sprinkle a little cover, too. But that ain't really what we do.

Right, right, right. Hey, look, that's not what Denver does. Go ahead, Joe. I'm not mad at Denver for throwing the zone in. I thought they created some indecision on the Thunder part early. You know, they couldn't make shots, and then they started forcing to the hole. There was many layups. So I think it flustered them a little bit.

But once they kind of got the hang of it, they just, they demolished it. They started making shots. They started getting into the teeth of the defense and it was a wrap from there. You know,

they basically seized the moment, man. They took care of this game early. This wasn't close, you know, considering by the second quarter, I mean,

you could tell it was going to be pretty much over. It's just too many turnovers. You can't turn over. Look, in a game of this magnitude, I'm going to let you go, Joe. In a game of this magnitude, a Game 7 or an NFL playoff game, you cannot turn the basketball over.

You can't turn the football over. You play double. And you're turning. Think about where they're turning the ball over. They're turning the ball over high, Joe. So now you got a two-on-one. They laying the ball up. They fast-breaking it.

Yes, yes. They were turning ball up. They fast breaking it. They were turning them turnovers in the points quickly. And Denver, with guys hobbled, you know, they don't have enough firepower to come back on the road in the game seven, man. They needed Jamal Murray to play great. They needed to play unbelievable.

They needed contributions from a lot of different people and they just didn't get it man they didn't get it hey uh listen we also have to do we talk about what they did offensively now they had 22 turns they had 22 turnovers right you had six yes on aaron gordon had for jamal murray supposed to have an out-of-body experience you know with aaron gordon being down but he only had goddamn 13. And then also the Thunder, they suffocated Joker. Yes. They suffocated him.

They went and crowded with bodies. Man, listen. He had 28-9, but obviously that wasn't enough. There had to be somewhere else where points needed to come from. And by the time, listen, honestly, when I watched the game,

the way they came out, the way Denver came out, I really thought they was going to run away with the game. Me too. I thought they were going to run away with the game. Me too. I thought they were going to run away with the game. And by the time it got towards the end of the first, I said, you know what? Man, this is over. Now, I understand the game of basketball

is a game of runs. I've come to learn that now. Yeah. Man, once they got that far ahead, there was no way FG was allowing them boys to come back. No. And plus, look at Yoke. He only had five shot attempts. I mean, nine shot attempts.

Yeah. So in order for him, you needed him to be somewhere in the 20s. You wouldn't have been disappointed if he had 25 shot attempts. You wouldn't have been disappointed if Murray...

Now, you'd like to have Murray have 16, but you'd like to be him a little bit more efficient. But the most disappointing thing this series was Michael Porter Jr. I understand he's injured. But, bro, if you can't give us

any more than that bro you gotta sit down cause he's giving us nothing he's giving us nothing I don't think they should've known that from jump if you haven't they played six games

previously for this one if you know MPJ and give you nothing since then why not change it up hell you did it defensively you know to try to hide Aaron Gordon

so he doesn't have to do much on the floor so why not start Westbrook? Why not? And plus also, why would you let Gordon bring the ball up? He got an injured hamstring. You see what they try to do? Like, see what they try to do?

They would body him and then move out the way. He starts stumbling, lose the ball, he can run the foul. No, bro. You ain't got no balance. Because your body knows. Your your body gonna protect that hamstring yeah for sure you feel that breakaway he started running like nah y'all go ahead and go grade two grade two hey he hey look i applaud him just even suiting up and getting out yes yes there was no grade two man but yeah i want to get okay see thunder i want to get okay see thunder credit because alex caruso he fought man hey oh yes that man that man ain't but what six three six four

garden yokich he just battling him wearing him down making him take tough shots not letting him blow by him and get easy points and i thought i thought it worked out great man i uh i got a lot of respect for caruso and the fight that he had in his game today. I thought he battled him and made him tired because he'd be on one side and Jokic feeling, I'm back over here. And you feel him over here and now I'm back behind you. So he was always in a situation

where he's making Jokic work for everything that he's getting. Now when he does get the ball, here come Chet. Here come Dort. Here come guys corralling him. Sit down. Come. Sit. And now they're corralling him and putting so much pressure on him.

And, you know, he trying to throw the ball out. It's gone. He turned it over. He turned the ball. Like you said, Ocho, he had – Gordon had four turnovers. Jokic had five. Russ had four. I thought kind of Russ turnovers. Jokic had five. Russ had four. I thought kind of Russ' turnovers like the end of the first,

I kind of thought that got the Thunder out and running because he came in and gave you two quick turnovers right quick. Yeah. And it was up 10, and now all of a sudden it's a four-point, it's a six-point ball game, and now they've got momentum. Titus, sit. And now they've got momentum. And that's what, in the road, you know, Ocho and Joe,

when you go on the road and you play on a team building, you cannot turn the ball over because you're going to get the crowd into the game. And as long as you can keep the crowd at bay, the better your chances are winning. Once that crowd got into the game, Edelman started to start burning those timeouts. Give me a timeout.

Well, damn, I just took one two minutes ago, guys. Just slow it down. And then they turn it over again, and now they're out the gate. And listen, it don't make it no better. Yeah, all 500 starters finished with a plus 24 or better, right? And the guys on the bench, they gave you 34 on the bench and kept the energy

high all game. So not only is the crowd into it, hell, everybody sitting on the bench getting into the game plus the starters was out there cutting the food. Yeah. You gotace gave him big big wallace gave him big minutes he gave him 29 he plus 38 wiggins 19 he gave you plus he gave you uh 19 minutes he's plus 19 caruso in only 26 minutes he's plus 40 i thought if there had to be an mvp now look i don't say it's shape she did what i thought she would do but i thought it was

caruso's hounding of Jokic, forcing him into turnovers, making him take quick shots because he had one. He got the ball. He forced it up quick. He got the rebound. He put it up on him, and they took it from him. And so I thought Caruso played really well.

And Shea being Shea, Shea's the MVP. But I thought their Game 7 MVP might have been Alex Caruso. Yeah, I thought collectively as a team, they all done a great job in corralling and making it tough. But, man, Denver just came out of Game 7. Like, there's two Game 7s. You know what I mean? That's a lot of work, Arkin Ocho.

You know what I mean? Yes. And this game of basketball, man, is for them young legs, bro. And the OKC came and they brought it, and they wore them guys down. Guys started breaking down throughout the series. They took advantage of it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I just thought about something.

Hold on. I just thought about something. I could have swore. I could have swore we had a bet on the game seven, didn't we? Or did we not make a light little bet? Yo. You must be talking to Unk. Unk, did we make a light little bet, Joe? You must be talking to Unk. Unk.

Unk, did we make a light little bet on the game? No. Some games? Man, you saw. I was the one that brought it to your attention that Goran was rubbing that left hamstring. I said, I want no part of that. So that wasn't you.

So that obviously, Joe, that might have been you. Nah, that wasn't me, man. I was going for OKC. OK. That's right. OK, we did agree. We did agree with SGA on pulling it out for game seven, right? But we got something coming up now.

This Western Conference Finals now. Talk to me now. Listen, whatever you do, don't be on the wrong side of history. Don't be on the wrong side of history. So who you got? I'm going with Ant-Man. I was finna say that, man. You don't want OKC?

You look like you want an OKC. Man, Ant-Man is basically me reincarnated, but he just on the basketball court. What you talking about? I talk about on the court and off the court. What's the difference? Man, listen, I got the T-Wolves. You can take...

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm giving you the Knicks. I'm giving you the Knicks. I You can take... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. I'm giving you the Knicks. I'm giving you the Knicks. I'm taking the... Oh, the Knicks. Listen, I'm going to tell you right now. Listen, I already got the script.

I'm not going to tell you. I talked to Adam Silver, right? The Knicks are going to be in the finals no matter what. Because bills got to be paid. Uncle, you don't hear me, huh? They got a good chance. I hear you. Bills got to be paid.

Commercials, sponsorships, endorsements. They don't hear me, huh? They got a good chance. I hear you. Bills got to be paid. Commercials, sponsorships, endorsements. They don't need to. They're not going to allow a small market to be in the finals. So I'm telling you right now. Well, not two small markets. Because everybody's small market other than Nick's. Okay. So you see what I'm trying?

Are you picking up what I'm putting down? Yeah. All right. Highest plus minus off the bench in a game seven this century, Alex Caruso plus 40, Wallace, Carson Wallace plus 38, Manu Ginobili plus 32. Those are the highest plus minuses off the bench this century in a game seven. Like I said, I thought Alex Caruso,

I've always liked Alex Caruso when he was at the Lakers. He did all the dirty work. He andbron played really really well together just like lebron and and and and colby other ozarks yeah at uh reeves austin reeves they played really well together very high q a very high iq ball players neither one of those guys reevesves or Caruso, are the most physically gifted. They're not 6'9". They don't have this imposing body. They just do all the things right. Caruso's going to be where he's supposed to be.

He's going to take the charges. He's going to block the shot. He's going to steal the ball. He's going to do all the nasty work that sometimes doesn't show up in the box score. But coaches and teammates really appreciate the effort going to do all the nasty work that sometimes doesn't show up in the box score but coaches and teammates really appreciate the effort because they know he's going to give you the effort the same thing i think caruso is more of a defensive guy austin reeves more of an offensive guy

caruso can score he can't score like austin reeves austin reeves we've seen austin reeves go get you 40 points in the game he averaged 20 20. He averaged 20 this year, 25 and 5. Hey, can I tell you something about Reeves? What's that? You know you can tell certain individuals by their style of play and the way they play and the way they produce. He grew up with us.

Don't you? I'm just saying, without having, I'm not going to say it the right way, but he grew up with us. He grew up playing with us. Yeah. That's where you get that from. Yeah. But I'm going to leave it having, I'm not going to say it the right way, but he grew up with us. He grew up playing with us. That's where you get that from. Yeah.

But I'm going to leave it at that. Go ahead. Hey, I think Caruso and Wallace obviously played a huge role in today's win. They didn't wow you as far as points, but them being disruptive on the defensive end, which allowed them to kind of get out. I mean, they both, I thought they'd done a great job defensively. Three steals, two steals. They were very, very effective defensively, which kind of got OKC out and got

them out and got them some easy buckets. This is going to be the next series for OKC is going to be a special one, man, because I think your role players are going to play a major factor in this offense. Yeah. I mean, because the bench, the role players had 9 of the 16 steals.

Yeah. So when you look at it, you mentioned you had Caruso. He had 3 steals. You had Wallace. He had 2 steals. So that's 5 of the 16 between those two guys. And that's what flipped the game around. Because now, all of a sudden, they started playing passing lanes.

All of a sudden, they started getting deflections. And so now, and when they're getting those deflections, hey, it's two, three dribbles and I'm laying the ball up. It ain't no at the baseline. I'm getting steals at the baseline. No, I'm getting steals. You know, I'm playing pass lane. I mean, think about it. They got a couple

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You know that guy, he's like, hey, I know my job. And there's nothing more than a guy that knows his job if you work in the mail room age make sure the mail sorted hey make sure hey my mail is in my box ash mail is in her box jordan mail that day man why jordan mail in my box you got one job that's it hey everybody has a job everybody has a responsibility and when everybody accepts their job, accepts their responsibility and do that to the highest level. Yes, sir.

I don't need you to be a CEO because sometimes, you know, you get people, oh, Joe, we need to try to be the CEO and all we need is cashiers. And sometimes we don't need cashiers. We just need a janitor. Right.

I like that. I like that. But listen, I don't mean to be off topic, right? But I just want to make sure I'm trying to keep the main thing, the main thing. And I want to get I like that. But listen, I don't mean to be off topic, right? But I just want to make sure. I'm trying to keep the main thing the main thing. And I want to get to business now. In the East, who you got in the East?

Who, me? Yeah, who you got in the East? I'm going to go with Bronson. Okay, you're going with the Knicks. So that's a smart choice. Now, we got the Wolves and we got the Thunder. Who are you taking? Man, I got to go with the home team.

I got to go with Ant-Man. Ant-Man from Georgia. You're a smart man. Now, Joe, I'm coming to you, Joe. I got my pad out right now, so I'm going to write everything down now, so can't nobody renege. Joe, who you got out the East? I told you, man. I'm going to take Indiana.

You're going to take Indiana. Now that you're taking Indiana, right? Make it light on yourself, man. I'm going to take Indiana. Oh, so you're going to take Indiana. So now that you're taking Indiana, right? Make it light on yourself, man. Okay. How much we talking? How much we betting? I'm going to write it down right now. We can bet that little friendly honey, man.

We can bet that little friendly honey, man. Honey, you ain't even sick me to honey. You owe me. Yeah, I know. I got you. I got you. I'm going to send over that to you. Just a little

credit, honey. We ain't trying to, you know, make rough with no feathers or nothing. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, don't make me do

nothing to you, Joe. Why you want to do something to somebody and I ain't doing nothing to you? Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

You want to get that money over a hundred, but you owe somebody $5,200. It ain't no problem. You want to get that knee over 100, but you owe somebody 5,200. It ain't no problem. I owe on 5,200, right? But no, he going to get that 5,200 because I put it aside. How I know that?

Huh? I told you I'm going to pay you. But Joe, Joe bet me, right? Joe bet me, but Joe is not, he's not. It's been two weeks. You ain't sent my money yet. What? me right joe bet me but joe is not he's not it's been two weeks you ain't sent my money yet what boy it's been six months you ain't paid me nothing i know but we listen you and i we we we different like you know i got you bro i got don't trip hey all right listen yo i don't want

to do nothing to you boy i could tell someone told you. I told you what they called me. They called me hella hands. I don't want to have to put nothing on you. All right. Okay. Ocho, you know I'm doing bad right now, Ocho. I can really use that 52. Hey, listen. Whatever you need.

Now, listen. It ain't got to be 52. Now, your limit is 500. Now, you tell me what you got to get it to. Oh, my limit is 500. 500. Yeah, 500 grand. I got you.

You can't go with 500 because I can't make that back up. So, whatever you need. No, I'm throwing it to you. On my limit, 500. 500, yeah, 500 grand. I got you. You can't go with 500 because I can't make that back up. So whatever you need, I'm throwing it all away. I think I'm going to be okay for the time being. Okay. Oh, matter of fact, hey, Joe, boy, guess where I'm at? What? Where? Well, I'm in Houston still.

Oh, Lord. Now, listen, stay with me real quick. Stay with me now. They told me two days ago You can leave Houston Any day you want to But you can't leave on Sunday That's what I heard

What's going on on Sunday? I don't know They call it Sunday fun day So I'm at the cigar bar I'm at the den on Almeida right And then They say after I do the show They taking me to

The area 29 I don't know what area 29 is i've never been i heard the area 51 that's that so they keep the aliens and stuff so i'm yeah every 29 after that right now i'm at i'm at the den hey um i was out here at the den yesterday for seven hours i heard some of the greatest stories of all time. Scarface was out here. And Joey. It's funny that you say that. I just got off the phone with Face. And he told my man, hey, man, you need to come out here and break bread with me.

We can go play gossip. I don't play no golf. You don't play golf? No. I don't play none either. But I know you don't like coming to Houston. I don't like coming either. I come once every six months.

We got to come to the den. You smoke, right? Mm-mm. No? But they got the La Portia in here, though. They do? Yeah, man. That's what I'm talking about, man. People are supporting you all over the world, man.

You global. Hey. I was about to be on the pipe. Joe, you come to Houston? I was about to smoke. I was about to start smoking the pipe Joe you come to Houston? I was about to smoke I was about to start smoking I ain't been out Hey

Hey oh You shot out man No you gotta Hey we gotta have a fellas trip We gotta have a fellas trip Joe you smoke cigars? I ain't no cigar smoker At least you gonna smoke with me

We gonna come to the gym We gonna put the chairs out On the sidewalk We gonna people watch As the people go by on a Sunday. I'm telling you, you don't want to miss it. Hey, I like the people watch now. Yeah, yeah.

I'm telling you. I like the people watch too, Ocho. Listen, hey, boy. Hey. Yeah. For me, I mean. I'm going to be in my whole. I tell you what.

I just want you to hold it up. Just hold the video up. Yeah. I'm going to be in my room and just have the camera pointed out so I can see the people walking by. Hey, Joe, listen, I've been here two days, right? The graduation was yesterday. For me, it's like being at the zoo.

And I mean this in a respectful way. It's like being at the zoo, but ain't nothing caged in. Ain't nothing caged in. They just run a while everywhere. Joe, it's a beautiful sight. Now, my eyes work, right? Ain't nothing wrong with my eyes. I'm very disciplined, you see? You know, because I'm finna get, you see that on my finger? I'm finna get married now, so I'm real disciplined, right? So this is good for me to be— Get it out your system, Ocho.

Get it out your system. Yeah, hold on, hold on. See, I'm an amoeba. You know, an amoeba, you can put him in any environment, and he can adapt. Yeah. Okay, so that's what I've done. I'm adapting, but I'm adapting while still having discipline and structure. Yeah.

Because I got a nice foundation to hold the bill on. I hear you. You feel me? Yeah. Now it's Sunday, now I'm a priest to to hang the bill on. I hear you. You feel me? Yeah. It's Sunday now. I'm a priest to you. Okay. Yeah.

I don't want to touch that. But anyway, OKC and Josh Giddey. There was a trade that happened last offseason. Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey. Me, personally, I think the trade benefited both guys. Josh Giddey needed to be a, I think the trade benefited both guys.

Josh Giddey needed to be a place where he needed to handle the ball. He was never going to be the player that he was, that he can become, because Shea's going to have the ball in his hand. He needs to go that predominantly he's going to have the ball. So I thought it was a great move for Chicago. I thought

it was a great move for OKC. Caruso is a guy, hey, I can just focus on defense. Hey, I can get a little scoring. I can get a little 10-piece here and there. But my job is to play the passing lane, get deflections, defend at a high level, draw charges. I thought the trade worked out for both of them. It's hard for me to

say because I saw what Josh Giddey did with Chicago while scoring the ball, rebounding, assisting, made some big time shots. So it's hard for me to say, Joe, one team won the trade over the other. I think it definitely was a good trade for both teams. I love to see Giddey, the way he's flourishing in Chicago, making plays, scoring the basketball. And it got to the point, also,

to where Chicago was playing some meaningful basketball at one point. Yes. I thought Giddey was playing some meaningful basketball at one point. Yes. I thought Giddy was playing really well. I think Caruso just fits what OKC does as far as... Yes. Gritty players, tough players, sit out, play defense. Yeah, they can score. They can give you some buckets.

But for the most part, defensively and being effective on that end is definitely what OKC needs. And I thought Caruso brings that. Playmaking, guarding guys that's a lot bigger than him, obviously. And it's worked out for the better. And, you know, it's going to be tested in his next series against these T-wolves, though. Yeah, because they're going to throw a lot of bodies at Ant.

Caruso will take him some. Ludo will take him some. You have Jalen Williams that'll guard him some. You got Wallace that'll guard him some. Isaiah Joe that'll take him some. Ludo will take him some. You have Jalen Williams that'll guard him some. You got Wallace that'll guard him some. Isaiah Joe that'll guard him some. They're going to throw a lot of different bodies. They're going to try to wear him down. Hold on.

I like what you just said, Unc, about them throwing bodies at him. But all the bodies you named really can't do nothing with them one-on-one. They're going to have to have some type of help from somewhere, no matter who's doing it. Look, I'm just going to try to give him as many different looks as I possibly can. Some guys are the size, some guys are a little taller, some guys are a little... Right. It's just that I'm not going to give him a steady diet of anything.

Right. Because it's just like with medicine. If you take it too long, you'll build up a resistance to it. So I'm not going to give him a steady diet of anything. I ain't going to let one guy, like, oh, you got him the whole game. Lou Dort, you got him. Wallace, you got him. Car going to let one guy, like, oh, you got him the whole game. Lou Dort, you got him. Wallace, you got him. Caruso, you got him.

Jalen Williams, you got him. And if we have to, yeah, we'll go to a zone. We'll play that zone and, hey, put a boxing one on him. Okay, yeah. Because the difference is I'm not really worried about Rudy Gobert hurting me. Right. I'm not. Because they got big body, you know, look,

Hartenstein going to give you what he's going to give you. Hartenstein today, he only played 17 minutes, five or seven. He gave you seven rebounds, 10 points, seven rebounds. Okay, you got Chet. Chet gave you 13 points

on four of nine shooting, 11 rebounds. So, look, like I said, Gobert had a great, had a really good, great game, game five against the Lakers,

but I'm not expecting him to give me any more than eight to ten points, maybe 11, 12 rebounds. That 27-24, that's over with. Yeah. You never know because we never thought the 27-24 was going to happen too. So I'm going to say it's based on circumstance. It's based on circumstance. If he ever has an out-of-body experience like that again while playing.

It's not likely, but there's a chance it could happen. Listen, we might play the lotto a hundred times. We might not win, but there's a chance we might hit it that one time. Yeah, I was going to play it, but they told me they're moving the lottery tickets under $5 a piece now.

So I remember when it was $1, now they're $2, $3, now they're going under $5. I don't know about that, Ocho. Listen, one thing about it is you can't win if you don't play. True. Hey, can't win if you don't play. Hey, baby, my daughter's watching. Kennedy, I love you. How you doing, sweetie? Praise God.

I love you. All right. The little one? No, that's Serenity. Baby Kennedy. Oh, okay. I mean, you got, I mean. Both of them watching. Hey, Serenity.

I need to get me a pad and write all these kids' names down so I'll be knowing which, I need to get me a pad and pen so I can write all these kids' names down so I know who you're talking about. It's a lot of them. That's a lot of them.

I know. That's why I need a pad and pen. As a matter of fact, when you write them. That's a lot of them. I know. That's why I need a pad and pen. Matter of fact, when you write them down, add two more to it. I know. All right. Add two more to it.

You go right here. Huh? I said you go right here. Yeah, but I'm finna have twins, boy. You ain't know that? Mm-mm. I mean, what better place to break that story

than your old night camp? Praise God. It's cap. Huh? Listen. Ain't no cap in my story. Everything I tell is truth and it's real life experience. Oh, Joe.

Hey, Joe, do me a favor. As long as you've been on here with me, name one lie I told. Boy, you really want me to do this? Yes, just give me one. Give me one. Name one name one lie ever told the lebron the 50 the 50 the 50 point the 60 000 career point ball three point ball that's one hold on now wait wait a minute now now i got the 40 000 point ball and i didn't want to be greeting your ass for the 50 000 point. So I already got one of them. But I got that one in storage.

Hey look, you know how when you lie so much you build lies on top of lies. You have to remember all them lies, Ocho. That's a lot, man. Joe, listen to me. I lie for you before I lie to you. I would never lie to y'all because I respect y'all and so anything come out my mouth, there's always some truth to it a little bit all right okay i promise you hey did you see that you

see the graphic that we posted all them events you've been at i'll matter of fact it's so funny now that you think about it right like out of all the graphics there was only one i really wasn't at which one was that huh which one was that the golf the golf one I really wasn't at. Which one was that? Huh? Which one was that? The golf tournament. Oh, you wasn't at the Tiger thing in 97? Nah, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. I was at the one in 99, though.

So you was at Dr. King his speech. Yeah. My grandma and my granddaddy was there. They his speech. Yeah, my grandma and my granddaddy was there. They was there. So that really counts as me being there. You saw Nancy Rose apart? So they asked you to give up your seat first and then they went to Miss Parks. No, no, no. My grandma, listen,

when Martin Luther King was walking right in the photo, my grandma was right behind Dr. King with my granddaddy. He right there in the picture. You didn't even know that. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, from what I'm hearing now,

the way the story is being told, they went to you first and asked you to give up your seat. No, no, no, no. That's not what happened. That's not what happened.

Cause I was already in the back. Oh, you was already in the back. So you already assumed your spot. I was already in the back. Cause I, you know, Hey,

you know, back then they were lynching that. Yeah. They were lynching. I wasn't going gonna play like that I don't play with people like that but we really

had no rules because when you go to the bathroom it still said whites and colors only so I you don't play that game

not back then okay yeah I don't play that I don't play that but my grandma my granddaddy was there though

yeah I mean you was a lot of places I said man damn Ocho got around yeah and you know

they hey before listen before with carmen san diego before carmen san diego it was me where in the world is carmen san diego you remember that no where's waldo yeah where's waldo yeah i remember where's waldo it was me before Waldo. That came from me. Yeah, that came from me. You feeling good today, ain't you, old Joe?

Well, I'm just saying, I done been everywhere. Joe, I done been all over the world, Joe. I done lived two times already. You hear me? Yeah, I done lived two times already. So I don't really know how to. Lived two times, lied three times. I don't lie. I don't lie.

I don't lie. I don't lie. Joe, send me that $100, Joe. I don't lie. I don't lie. I don't lie. Where my... Joe, send me that $100, Joe. Hey, Joe, I'm at the cigar bar, Joe. I can't believe you even got on here pressing me about that $100, man. I'm at the cigar bar, Joe.

I want to buy some Placentias at the den. I'm at the den on Almeida. Just send me $100. I'm going to get... They cost $35 a pump, Joe. We're going to talk about it. Boss man. Hey, face. Come here, man.

Hey, uncle. Here goes face right here. Is it? Come on. Hold on. Hold on. Sit right there real quick. I'm sitting by the 85. What's up, baby? What's happening? What's up, baby? Bye, baby. Bye. What's happening? What a new face.

Hey, didn't I just talk to you? I just told the champ, I just got the phone with you about an hour ago. We got something brewing. Hey, I told my brother, I said, man,

I just talked to Face. He said, man, tell Face, hey, my game ain't what it used to be, but I want to see what he got. No. No, sir. I'm not going to go out there playing with Sterling, man.

Are you crazy? FaZe, he been off. You know, he had eye surgery. He about to have another one. So he been off about five months. He just, for y'all didn't know, FaZe just had open heart surgery about six have another one so he's been off about five months he just for y'all didn't know face just had open heart surgery about six months ago right august august okay almost a year amen that boy's strong like bull blessed by the best you good i'm good man man thank you bro hey

all right all right you know that's that's joe when you see ocho here in the building with you You good? I'm good, man. Man, thank you, bro. Hey, what's up, the best one? All right, all right. You know, that's Joe. When you see Ocho here in the building with you, that's Joe Johnson. That's our basketball contributor. Okay. Hey, what it look like with the finals, man? I mean, who going to the dance? You trying to bet or you just want to know?

I want to know. I'm trying to bet or you just want to know? I want to know. I'm trying to bet. Come on. I'm taking... If I had to bet money, I would take the Knicks and the Thunder. But since I ain't betting no money, I'm taking the Knicks and Minnesota. Hey, that boy named Crime 85 named Crime, he don't pay He sure don't

Love y'all, man I appreciate it, Faith Good to see you, man I'll see you soon All right, all right, all right Oh, Joe, how did everybody know you don't damn pay? Oh, nah, nah, nah. I'm finna pay.

I'm finna pay. Listen, I'm gonna pay you, right? Sooner, Joe. When Joe sent me that hundred. The man done bamboozled me. Done got me into this BS. How you get me, drag me into this? I ain't dragging you in because you're a part of the family now.

You owe that man $52,000 way before I owed you $100,000. Now you're gonna drag me into this. But listen, matter of fact, you know what, Face? They tell y'all, me and Face got an album coming out. Face ain't doing no more music. Yeah, me and Face, you got to. Yo. Hey.

Hey, come here. Hey, look what he said. Look. Hold on one more. Hold on one more. Yo. Yo, Eric Riley, playing with the Fab Five, remember me? Oh, yeah, yeah, what's up, bro?

I'm about to drop a book. About to drop a book. It's going to be ready in a couple weeks. Don't let Ocho do nothing with that book. Nah, it is, bro. I don't know if you can see it the sixth man yep sixth man so I cover Fab Five

I cover the first championship with Glenn Rice and Ramiro as a freshman and then the two Rockets championships okay a lot to cover in that. Ocho, man, y'all trying to throw some AC on over there for my boy, man. God, look at you.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, man. Give my man a break. Yeah, man, when I drop it, I mean, I don't know if we can figure it out and somehow, but yeah, I'll give you my information. Yeah, man. All right, bro. Appreciate you. All right, man. See you. All right, man.

See you. You can't go nowhere, Ocho. Ocho, that dude, they have everybody at your table. Hey. Hey, man. God damn, Ocho. Hey, but listen.

Hey, I ain't mean to get off topic, right? I know we had a few in the Russian, but listen, that's good for the show. But me and Face, we've been in the studio. That's why I've been coming to Houston. Me and Face got a album coming out together. i'm i can't i can't i can't wait to see it yeah no here you're gonna hear it not see it yeah i want to i want to hear it yeah okay

you got you you got it coming out on mp3 no no no it's on it's on it's on uh uh dvd what's this this rap r&b whatever yeah no no what you mean rap man this is me and scott face rap yeah yeah we gonna rap like hey when he so you on his album or he on your album no i'm on his album we it's like a duo like when i okay he heard me rapping like damn you remind me of bush mcbill be like yeah he he told me like i outside, right, and I started rapping for him. He's like, damn, I didn't know you could speak. I said, yeah, we need to get in the studio.

So he's like, you know what, I'm going to sign you. So I signed yesterday. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm going to rap a lot. So you say you sound like Bushwick Bill? Yeah, I'm like Bushwick Bill. Okay. Yeah, and I can do, I'm like Bushwick Bill. Okay. Yeah. And I can do,

I make screw music too. Wow. And chop the screw. Yeah, I do all that. I do all that. Wow. Well, you're in the right place, you know.

Yeah. You know, J Prince down there. Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, me and... 50 in Houston. 50 I am? You know, Drake in Houston. Yeah, all them boys out there.

Make you a two? Yeah. We need to go ahead and move out there. Make it a two? Yeah. We need to go ahead and move to Houston, man. Bun B? What? I'm going to Trill Burgers tomorrow. Nah, Ocho. You don't want to move here? Hey, hey. Hey, if you ain't careful next year

this time, Unc B have be locked it down. Hey, Unc, they out here too, boy. You heard me? Oh, listen, I've been preaching to you for like two years now. We come out here. Give me a week. I'll make sure you're married.

No, no. Look. You just said lock down. Titus, you don't owecho to leave me alone Why does man keep bothering me Titus I'm trying to get you To the promised land baby

And what better place to find it Than not in Houston Long as you don't leave on Sunday You gonna be alright Well I mean if I live out there I'm gonna be out there everyday Yeah well you ain't gotta stay Man I ain't got bread like that

To be having four, five houses Yes, you do Boy, you got money What you talking about? Hold on, we got money So, whatever you find is yours You get it? Yeah, I'm feeling good

No Nicola Jokic, this playoff, he's first in points First in rebounds First in assists First in steals First in stocks First in triple Double doubles First in points, first in rebounds, first in assists, first in steals, first in stocks, first in triple doubles, first in triple doubles, first in field goals.

Jokic plans on his plans this offseason. He said, well, we'll see. But for now, next couple of days going to be a lot of beer, probably. I mean, he's incredible. I mean, there's really no way to describe him. I mean, we haven't seen a guy I mean, he's incredible. I mean, there's really no way to describe him. I mean, we haven't seen a guy.

I mean, first in points, first in rebounds, assists, steals, double-double, triple-doubles, field goals. Yeah, no way. But, Joe, I feel in order for them to get back to where they were and win a championship, they're going to have to do something with this lineup. Everything. The only two people that shouldn't be touchable are he and Jamal Murray. Everything.

I think I keep Gordon. But Michael Porter Jr., I would entertain Michael Porter Jr. I would entertain Christian Brown. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You know why he wasn't productive? Only because of the injury to his shoulder. So you might get the old Michael Porter Jr ringing once he gets a chance to heal.

Nah. No. Even when he's healthy, he's still too inconsistent for the type of money that he makes. You can't run it back as is. You can't. You just can't. You can't. It ain't really nothing out there, though, baby.

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He's ultra-aggressive. And I think that's the thing that we got to get OKC credit about because your perimeter guys, man, they some way, somehow, kind of take them out of the game. And that's what kind of concerns me about the Timberwolves because although Ant-Man is great and it's going to be hard to stop him, but they got guys who are going to sit down and move their feet. This ain't going to be

like the Lakers where you just O-lay, come down, you get past that and you got to dunk or lay up. This is going to be a fun and interesting series. And I ain't going to lie, I'm nervous even picking a T-Wolves, but I think it's their time. Yeah, and

it's not going to be like Golden State. Because Golden State ain't got a whole lot of guys that can slide with it. But they got five or six guys that can slide. Lou Dort, they got Wallace, they got Caruso, they got Jalen Williams, they got Isaiah Joe, they got a lot of guys they can throw at him. And they got sides that can challenge him at the rim once he gets there.

I ain't saying they can stop it, but they can challenge him. It's a game of basketball. Everybody challenging everybody. I just don't like the words that just came out of Joe's mouth. The fact that he said, I'm nervous, even though he's picking the Wolves. So, I mean, why don't you just flip side and go with the Thunder? Nah, I'm going to stick with the T-Wolves, Ocho. But you just said you're nervous

about your pick. I'm nervous. See, you're not confident. And you can be confident and still be a little nervous now. Come on now. Nah, nah, nah. See, like, I'm confident if we play one-on-one, I'm going to whoop your ass.

There ain't no way you ain't confident in that. You ain't confident. I'm real. So, I'm confident If we play one-on-one I'ma whoop your ass Ain't no way you that confident You ain't confident I'm real, so I'm not nervous about that Anytime you go into anything, Joe If you have any type of Hey, hey, hey You keep talking I might not let you scope So keep it up

Damn Yeah, I might not let you scope So keep it up Joe, you really ain't never seen me hoop on I ain't got to see you hoop I did see you hoop but alright with all due respect you played in the NBA

well you was that boy they call you ISO Joe for a reason right but you got to respect my game man I told you listen in high school I scored 56-12-10 man you playing you must have been playing 1A basketball.

I don't know who you were playing against. In my... Can I tell you something? Here's the thing, Ocho. This is how I know Joe for real. Joe say, he didn't say score. He said he might not let you scope. Yeah, I ain't let him scope.

What did I say? Scope. Hey, can I tell you something? You ain't got nothing, Ocho. You ain't got nothing, Ocho. Listen to me. I went to New York, right? I dropped 32 at Rucker Park.

So how you going to beat me? Think about that. I dropped 32 at Rucker Park. If it's just me and you on the court, partner, you ain't got a chance, okay? I'm like Ray Charles, but I don't see you. I don't see you. It's your game. It's your game.

Right. You ain't going to see me. All right. You ain't going to see me. Right. You ain't going to see me. All right. All right. You ain't going to see me. All right. All right. After the game, Aaron Gordon had this to say.

He said, I would really, really appreciate it if there were a couple of days between games and the playoffs instead of every other day. The product of the game would be a lot better. You'll see a high level of basketball, probably less blowouts. Do you, Joe, do you agree with what A.G. is saying? Nah, this is been the format for however long. We understand you got a knick-knack,

a little injury, but look, the show still got to go on, my boy. Man, y'all be playing in August if they put two days in between every game. Yeah, you get your little day, maybe two in between. If your body can't shake back

from that, you just in trouble. That's just the way it's been. It's been like that forever. They ain't changing. They ain't changing. They ain't giving these dudes three, four days in between.

They ask for a lot of rules. First, they want to take the time off and go, what, it's 12 minutes to quarter, right, Joe? Yeah, it's 12 minutes. Listen, they were talking? Yeah, 12 minutes. They try to cut it down to 10. I think it's like Euro rules, right? FIBA.

Yeah, man, we're not doing all that. And now, you know, they talked about cutting the games, possibly playing 65 games or 70 games instead of the 82. From 82. Hey, Ocho, them boys back in the 60s and 70s, man, they played 82 games in Chuck Taylor. These boys got orthotics and all kind of things.

Now, you mean to tell me they can't play 82 games? Come on, man. Hey, Adam Silver said, yeah, we're going to cut the games, but we're going to cut the pay, too. Let's see how many of them sign up for that. So, in other words, you still want to make 50, 60, 70 million dollars in 70 games, in 65 games. Oh, yeah. OK. That's what y'all want. OK. We will cut the pay. Let's see how many of you think signed up for that, Ocho. Nobody. Nobody at all.

Yeah. And you get you got it better now. You just I mean, just think about those. Like you said, your guys back then, they didn't have all the technology and all the treatment, the ice baths and all this, the nutrition and the physios and the personal trainers. They didn't have all that. They don't have the private jets. That joke is flu commercial. Yeah.

And you know what, too, I wish, I'm sure we don't have enough time to do it right, but I wonder if ass can do it. What are the injuries? Think about the injuries that we're getting in today's game right do you think the injuries were as prevalent or as many people got injured back then yeah they are today yeah magic johnson and james worthy was both hurt against michael jordan in his first championship remember isaiah pulled his hamstring rolled his ankle ankle. Absolutely. Kareem, remember, everybody talks about that game that Magic had. That was because Kareem was out with an injury.

So, yes, absolutely. Yes, yes. It's just the fact of the matter is we didn't have a 24-hour news cycle. They didn't have social media, so everything got reported. But, yes, there were injuries that were very, very prevalent back then that swung the tempo and the momentum of a series. Absolutely. Okay, okay.

Absolutely. But this is a part of it. I mean, you guys play every other day. Dang. Yes. Because they're not changing that. They're not changing that. Yeah, they're playing every other day.

They're flying commercial. You think you're going to get two, three days off and you got a private jet? No, I don playing every other day. They're flying commercial. You think you're going to get two, three days off and you got a private jet? No, I don't see that happening. So we've already got it. Winning the 2025 NBA championship. Who will get crowned 2025 NBA champs? Who you got?

New York Knicks. Okay, Joe, who you got? I got the T-Wolves. If the T-Wolves, look, the T-Wolves win this series, ain't no stopping them, bro. Ain't no stopping them. I know, look, it'll be a great story to see Minnesota play against New York. The fact that they both swapped, you know, Cat.

Yeah, Cat and Duram. Julius Duram. I think that will be, I actually think that'll be a hell of a series I do too but I gotta take the T-Wars fellas I don't know listen I like the happy ending I like

for New York fans for the Knicks players for the Knicks organization even though everyone no one likes Mr. James Dolan I would like for the city in general I think New York deserves it it's been a very long time for them Mr. James Dolan. I would like for the city in general. I think New York deserves it. It's been a very long time for them,

and they'll do one. They'll do one. And I'm only picking the Knicks. Obviously, I'm a Heat fan, you know, so I'm sticking with the team coming out the East. Okay. Yo, who you got? They'll flip New York Upside down Before winning

Man you saw how they did After just going to The Easter Conference Finals You could Imagine what's gonna happen If they go to the NBA Finals And then multiply that Hey

Listen The Statue of Liberty Hand ain't gonna be Raising no more She gonna be pointing at you I told you Man you see how profane They are Man they about to be Man them fans New York fans About to be pointing at you. Man, you see how profane they are? Man, they're about to be, man, them fans, New York fans

about to be on one. Yeah. Consider they hadn't won a, I mean, you got to go back to 73. It's a good sight. It's a good sight to see. It's good to see the fanatic of the fans and the NBA

and the way they really repped for their Knicks, man. This has been, I'm sure, for them an interesting, you know, playoff run because, you know, nobody had them beating Boston, man. They came, they went in there and won them first two games and basically took control of the series

and the rest is history, but man, what's to come is going to be something special. Yeah. All right, guys guys we got a very very special guest joining us she's a rapper actress host freestyle extraordinaire justina valentini how are you doing what up um what up chad what up joe what's going on how's everyone feeling tonight that's what's good man i am this is look i'm. Look, I'm trying to battle. I'm trying to battle.

Ocho, Ocho. I'm trying to battle. Ocho, can we do this? Ocho, how much money you got on it? Because, you know, I'm not. How much? I got $5,200. What's up?

$5,200? Hey, I got my money on this thing. I'm a lot more expensive than that. $5,200. Hold on, hold on. Give me a chance. I'm expensive than that. $5,200. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to give you $5,200 to battle, right? And whatever I owe you. Honey, I'm going to post on my story for $5,200.

There you go. Talk to her, Justina. Talk to her. Hey, it sounds like you're scared to battle. That's what I hear. Oh, baby, I'm not scared. I just know my worth. That's what they say.

Hey, she's trying to get to the money. I feel it. That's what i hear oh baby i'm not oh baby i'm not scared i just know my word that's what they say yeah she's trying to get to the money uh she's about to pop so no but but you know um i did actually just shout you out in a in a rap i posted on a instagram did you yeah i did and it's crazy because um my boy you know Clips, battle rap legend, he just FaceTimed me. I 3-0'd him already. You said what? I 3-0'd Charlie already. Yeah, come on now. You 3-0'd Charlie Clips? I 3-0'd Charlie Clips. Ask him. Him, DNA. I'm telling you. I'm going to call him right now.

I'm going to call him and ask him. Alright, I will. So, look, he just FaceTimed me, Unc, and we were talking about the show we got coming up. And I said, oh, I'm about to, um, you know, jump on, uh, with Shea Shea and everything. He said, oh, man, you're going to tell him you just shouted him out in a rap? I said, I completely forgot. Yeah, just last week.

Hey, Unc, hey, Clips, look, I'm on here with, um, with, uh, you know, Unc, Shea Shea. We got, um, Archie Osink on here. We got Joe Johnson. And, um, Chad right here said that he beat you in a rap. He said he re-old you. Oh, you smoked him crazy on YouTube? Why is he lying? Tell him don't lie like that.

Hey, Clips, you can't do nothing with me. Son, don't lie to people like that, man. What you talking about, B? Yo, yo, O, listen, man. Look, you retired on football on your own terms. I retired you in battle rap. You never battled again after that. Hold on.

I'm waiting. Hey, I'm from the battle. I'm waiting on Surf to get out. I'm from the 3-0-M. Yo, free the wave. Surf going to smoke you. Definitely free the wave. Yeah. you know free to wait they're going to smoke you out definitely free to wait yeah

oh did you battle DNA too huh oh this is crazy I didn't know he battled DNA too yeah I'm really I'm really like that that's why you scared to battle you don't like that

Justin bro I'm going to call you when I get off here alright you know it don't give it up so you we already lost the three of my comrades that's crazy Bro, I'm going to call you when I get off here. All right. Yeah, I want you to know I ain't giving up. So you already lost the three of my comrades? That's crazy.

What's up, Unc? Let me ask you this. You kind of got your start on Wildin' Out with Nick Cannon. Yeah. Did you expect to receive the love and the respect that you received when you went on that show? So what were your expectations when you went on Wildin' Out? You know, when I went and auditioned for Wildin' Out, that was not my plan or trajectory at all. At the time, you know, I was just out here in these streets like Chad. I was rapping, you know what I mean?

I was taking people's money, just like, you know what I mean? Just like, you know, Chad over here. And I just really wanted to be an artist, you know, or singer, songwriter. And yeah, TV, I was not looking to be on TV. But a good friend of mine, Antonio Skits, he came to one of my music videos. And he's really nice with the beatbox. So he started beatboxing. I started freestyling.

Snapchat was lit at the time. And so he's posting on Snapchat. And he's like, yo, sis, you got to audition for this show. I'm about to audition for Wild N' Out. I was like, oh, that's the one where they come up with the songs on the spot. I'm like, I'll kill that. So he's the one who connected me with the producers. And that's my brother always.

Because, you know, most people won't really look out like that, especially when he wasn't even on the show yet. Great. But he connected me with the executive producers and I sent in a bunch of videos of me freestyling outside in New York at SOBs on B-Rails radio show, just a bunch of different freestyles. They invited me to come audition and I bodied it. You know, I knew I bodied it.

I knew I killed the audition. So they brought me back and then they brought me back again. And I met Nick and I remember at that audition it was all the people from the tri-state New York New Jersey um maybe even you know Connecticut Boston whatever else was close um it was all of us and you know we did the audition and they had us do a bunch of different games and when it got to wild style I just sat back a little bit you know it was like 15 on one side of the room 15 on the other side of the room Okay, yeah, you're like, okay I'm vibing to this, okay Yeah, I'm vibing

And then as soon as someone hit me I just like, a machine gun I went down the whole other side And then when everyone was leaving Shaking the producer's hand Shaking Nick's hand I remember I was the only one Nick said something to

He was like, where you from? And I was like, Jersey And he was like, alright And I just left the audition Knowing that, you know You know you had it Get ready and I was like Jersey and he was like all right and I just left the audition knowing that um you know if you know you had it ready you you knew you knew you had bodied it so you knew you gonna get the call back that you were gonna be a regular yeah yeah so I got the call back and then um the rest was history I shot my first season that was season eight and I've been on for 14

seasons now I'm the longest running female so um I guess, you know, when you said, how did I think I was going to be received? I really didn't know. I just knew being a female, being white, I just knew I always had to really be that nice. You had to be like that. Yeah, I had to really be like that because nobody, people didn't want to give it up for me. In general, that was just always my experience. I ran around to all these open mics throughout the work. And, you know, I always had to be like the nicest in the room to, you know, so I was just ready.

I was ready. I was hungry. And, you know, once I got the opportunity, I just went for it. And, you know, the fan base loved me. Shout to them because they really make us who we are. And then everything took off from there. Were you always good on the mic? Were you always quick-witted? Were you always, did you always, is that what you always wanted to do?

Were you that young lady that, that like people looking at you like why are you trying to be black you white why you can't do that i'm sure you probably got a little bit of that for like you said you are a young lady a woman now and you were doing some things that there are not a whole lot of white rappers female rappers when you were coming up well you know what's funny it's a lot of white rappers men because the industry have them some white men it's i could name you like probably 50 white rappers right now yes wow it is a lot it's a it's a lot of white rappers um but yeah not female so um yeah i definitely got a lot of everything i got a lot of you know friction i really had to grind to get where I got and I really had to cut my teeth and nothing was easy for me. Nobody wanted to, you know, let me in. Um, I had no connection, didn't know anybody who knew anybody who knew. And I'm looking at my mom. I'm like, you don't know nobody. Nobody know nobody like you know so you got no connect yeah no connect um you know it's

it's hard in jersey we don't have a radio station we don't have a sports team we don't have shit we had that brief for a fleeting moment they took that right joe you you with the yeah that's right yeah we had we you know so um yeah i really really had to work hard and um yeah i was always nice with the words i always had you know the gift of gab was always really had to work hard. And, um, yeah, I was always nice with the words. I always had, you know, the gift of gab was always really good to put my words together. And I think when you just have a natural gift for something and then you use that gift a lot, you just get a lot better. So once people be like, yo, yeah, like what a girl, like she freestyles, she's crazy with it. Everyone wanted to see me do it. I was running around everywhere just you know freestyling open mics um and I used to go to the real ones in the city EO Dub where you know they would beat juggle they would slow down the beat speed up the beat

like crazy shit that people just don't even do anymore which is why when I went to Sway shout the Sway I love him one of my favorite people in the industry, and I did the Five Fingers of Death, I'm the first and only female to spit a real freestyle completely off the top, DJ Wonder was speeding up the beat and slowing it down, and they hadn't done that in years, years, so I asked, and I went on Sway, bodied it. Wonder gave me the most trash beats, speeding up the beat. Bodied it. But I said to Wonder after, I said, damn, Wonder. I said, no, I actually said to Sway, I said, I'm surprised you guys were changing the, you know, the BPM of the beat.

He said, yeah, we haven't done that in years because no one could do it. And this is people who come with written. So I said to Wonder, so why did you do it to me? Because I knew he was trying to fuck me up right um he said because you were talking so much shit that you know he really wanted to to test me um but it just like made me shine more so it's i've always had to do that like that's always been kind of um you know you had to be that much better in order to get just as far as someone that was average that was doing it you had to be a step above a cut above the rest correct but I really think you know God put me on TV for a reason because um you know TV

I got on TV and TV embraced me so much I got on N' Out and because of Wild N' Out, I had great success. I grew this platform. And then from Wild N' Out, they, you know, made me a host on TRL. They made me a host of How Far Is Tattoo Far, Revenge Prank, The Challenge, The Justina Valentine Show, Basic to Bougie. I'm the host now of Jersey Shore. Like it opened up so many doors for me that music just wasn't ready to. So like TV and film. And then from there I started doing film. Like that was really the biggest blessing. And I think God just knew like, nah, you know, go this way.

It's a lot more money this way. Go this way. Matter of fact, your work ethic, obviously what you have going on. I mean, listen, the proof is in the pudding. You got it out of the mud. You've done it the hard way and you put the work in. So you've been blessed with many opportunities. You've worn many hats though, rapper, actress, writer, producer, and host, obviously. How do you decide which hat

to wear on any given project? Is it a money issue or are the products that are given to you, do you always take things that fit you and which way you want to go and envision? Yeah, I think it's always about what's the most important thing at the moment. Like, for example, in 2022, we shot like three seasons of Wild N' Out. We did two tours and I shot a movie that like I wrote, I directed, I started, I got my Eddie Murphy on to play six characters. I financed, I did everything from A to Z for this movie. So it really monopolized my year. So that year I really didn't do, I didn't drop any music except for I did the soundtrack for my movie. So that year is like, you know, music took a little backseat and all my efforts and energy went into the movie, you know, music took a little backseat and all my efforts

and energy went into the movie, which was the most ambitious thing I've ever done, but also made me, that one thing was my biggest payday, that one project. So it's like, you know, that year was all about TV, film, tour, you know, and so like music took a back seat so for me it's uh i'm very fortunate to be able to do the the projects and the the things that i want to do of course while and out i'm always gonna do nick could call me no but i'm always pulling up for nick we'll be doing a while and out until the people don't want to while out anymore which they want to keep while and now you know so i love that and's like, we used to say, every time Nick made a new pregnancy announcement,

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it's very important to me especially because like you know um like with the movie i mentioned and then myself and my cast member can see this shout out to con another battle rap legend uh we just produced a tv show that um we sold to kevin hart shops and kev and lol network it came out on peacock and Tubi and all these projects like I'm producing and I'm literally on the cutting room floor with the editor. Like I really, once I have the vision, I really have the vision. Sometimes I'm too hands-on. They're like, all right, just like, chill, like give us, we're not done yet. Like it's not even color corrected. So I am very hands-on sometimes, too hands-on. So my is um I'm very involved in the creative

um from A to Z because I think especially and I know you guys can all relate because you have your own um all your own stuff going on your own brands your own shows etc so it's like you have a vision for and you really want to see it through so yeah, yeah, I'm very involved. But the thing is, Justina, like, yeah, you're great at freestyling, but you can roast. And normally, you know, that's an art in and of itself. People don't understand that we call it joning.

I went to an HBCU, so we call it joning or ragging or bagging on somebody, whatever y'all call it, roasting, whatever the case may be. But for you to rap and you can roast also, because to be great at roasting, you've got to be

off the cuff. Because it ain't no I'm going to come back tomorrow and get you. I got to get you as soon as you're done with yours, I got to be firing right back at you. How are you able to do that? So are you listening? Like, okay, this is what we're doing? Okay, go ahead, Go ahead. You first.

So how does it just because it seems like it just comes so natural to you. Yeah, no, it really does. And I think I just go into demon mode. Like when we're in the box, someone's rapping at me. I'm just I'm listening. I think one part of my brain is listening to what they're saying to me. And then another part of my brain is just like really sizing them up and it's so funny to me when people are like oh um you know do you guys have writers on wild and out I I cracked up because I'm I look at them and I'm like if you think I could buy a rap from from someone like a writer come on like they would first of all like they would never give someone like me anything.

Because they know I'm already, like, it's people on the stage that are already lethal. Do you think we could get help even if we wanted to? We shoot 30 episodes in 10 days. That means three episodes a day. Every day. Do you? Everyone on the stage has something for me. They have something for me.

They have something for DC. It's just certain people that everybody has something for me. They have something for me. They have something for DC. It's just certain people that everybody has something for. From the guests to the other castmates, it's like, you know, there have been battles that I've done on the show when guests have came, celebrity guests,

and haven't been aired because those people, teams, have requested for it not to be aired. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, hold on, hold whoa. I like it. Ray, hold on, hold on. Listen. Can you do me a favor?

See, on here, everything is a green light, right? Everything is a green light on here. And I'm not worried about being roasted because my grandma used to call me ugly. But can you give us an example of how good you are off the top of the head and roast me real quick?

All right. Go ahead. Hit me first with something. You want me to hit you first? Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Hold on.

Get it, Justina. Come on, Chad. Let's go. You sure? Yeah. Come on. I'm with Justina. Team Justina.

Who's side you on, huh? You should have got me a t-shirt. Well, who's side you on? I'm on Justina. What you mean? Who's side? Okay. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me think of something good. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm on Justina. What do you mean, who's side? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, let me think of something good. Okay, okay, okay. Okay. I'm going to get ready. I'm ready. You got to pay attention, man.

I need you focused. Hey, I'm getting ready to fall off my chair when she tell your ass off. Who's side you on? Who's side you on? Unc, who's side you on? I'm on Justina. I just told you.

Damn, that's messed up. I'm supposed to be... Dad, you're taking a Justina. I just told you. Damn, that's messed up. I'm supposed to be... Dad, you taking a long time. Oh, no. I'm trying to make sure he on my side. But here we go. Okay, here we go.

Okay. If I holler at Justina, she better holler back. Because she got that BBL, that ass used to be solid flat. Uh-huh. Body look like she smoked a lot of crack. Huh?

Now she got that redhead like Jessica Rabbit, so I said, roger that. Huh? I'm about to do a violent act. Huh? Uh, hold on. Okay. We could have had a private date. All right, you're taking too long.

All right, yo. I'm going off the top of my head. Get him. Get him, Justin. Joe, Unc, and Chad, all athletes. I will run with them. I will get with Uncle Shay Shay, but after 22, he's done with them. In fact, watch how I'm going to leave you.

I know you like it in the ass. That's why you was a wide receiver. You glad or you want to keep going? I don't know. Oh, Justina. Justina. That's why you was a wide receiver You You just caught a stray I'm coming back this ain't what you really want to do. Nah, you got it. I'm going to let you have that one. Nah, nah. Get it again.

Get it again. Come on, Chad. What's up? I'm glad you stopped there because the thing is about me, this second round is about to go crazy on you. Because she don't know when to stop. Chad, look. I'm a three-year-old.

I'm a real battle rapper. All right, go ahead. What are you saying? I didn't beat everybody. Ask Hitman about me. Ask Hitman about me. Ask Hitman about what I did. I'm gonna definitely ask Hitman about you because y'all got the same

head. Y'all both look like a milk duck. I'm gonna definitely ask his ass about you for sure. And I'm not gonna lie, you and Hitman have the same teeth. Y'all went to the same Y'all didn't say medium. Y'all said just extra large, dog. You look like a bunch of fucking Apple iPhone chargers in your mouth. Ones in your mouth.

Lean it, girl. What? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what we wait for. Seriously, I love folks. Yeah, for sure. Hey, no, Chad, honestly, I definitely, I mess with you.

I love people that go off the top of their heads. So if you and me, one day in the same place at some time, somebody want to double team us, no bitty shit, just like, you know, rap and stuff, I'm with it. I appreciate it.

Listen, honestly, I didn't have an opportunity to tell you because obviously we're doing a show and, you know, but I'm a fan of yours, always have been. I watch Wild N' Out religiously. Some of the other projects and stuff

we have going on, away from Wild N' Out, I've also watched as other projects and stuff we have going on away from Wild N' Out, I've also watched as well. I just want to say I salute you, and I wish you much success in all that you do, sis, man. You're a real one. He's trying to butter you up, Justina. No, but thank you so much, and I really appreciate y'all. And, of course, I'm a fan of y'all as well.

And, you know, I definitely got to—one day I want to sit on Shea Shea's couch as well. Oh, you want to be on club, Shea Shea? Yeah, we'll definitely, we'll get the freestyle going in person. We'll set up the beat. We'll do all that good stuff, you know? Are you going to have a drink? Are you going to have a drink? Are you going to have a drink with me?

I have a drink with you. If I start drinking, we are really, you're going to have to bring a few people in there to battle me. You know what I'm saying? I definitely have a drink with you. I can't come on Club Che Che and not have a drink. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. Go ahead, Ocho.

That's it. Let me ask you this, Justina. When you go at the guys, do you ever feel bad going at the guys or do you ever feel bad going at the guys, or do they ever take it personal? Nah, I would say as far as, okay, so the inner circle of Wild N' Out, which is, you know, those of us that go on tour.

Yeah, UDC, Chico. Yeah, like, those are all my brothers, you know, and it's like those are all my brothers and you know? And it's like, um, those are all my brothers and my sisters, like that inner circle that goes on tour. And we all know what it is. We have said everything to each other. Right. You know what I mean?

Um, so that's all love. Now there have definitely been guests that have, um, came on the show and I'm just looking like, had they not watched the show before? They've definitely, um,

probably been offended. They came on Wild N' Out, they got offended? Yeah. Like, and it's just like, wow. Like I said, it's been some battles that I've done that have never seen the light of TV. And one in particular one, the producer called me. She's like, yo, yo, Tina. She would call me Tinaina she's like yo

i'm watching the battle with so-and-so and yo you are that bitch and i was like yo i can't wait to see it you know what what like episode is that gonna be the season she's like oh no you're not gonna see it i was she was like no she was like you destroyed that girl as Soon as we were done filming, her team came up to us and said, you cannot air. And I was like, damn. So, yeah, that never aired. There's been a bunch of battles I've did that, you know, have never aired. But to be honest with you, I usually, I never hit a girl first. I hit her back.

I'll knock her out. But I don't hit her first. I beat up on the guys. I'll always hit the guys first. But with the girls, I don't hit her first. I beat up on the guys. I'll always hit the guys first but with the girls, I don't hit them first but if a girl hits me first, now it's,

you know, it's on. Yeah, it's on. Yeah. You've been at this for a while. So,

what's the next step? What's the evolution of Justina? So, the evolution for me is definitely, you know, concentrating on this TV and film stuff.

We just wrapped up season two of What's Cooking Good Looking. That's the TV show that me and Conceited do. Second season, super funny. We have Michael Blackson, Jess Hilarious. We had Lola Brooke, Cash Cobain, Maino. So we just wrapped that up. I just finished writing another script for a movie that I want to go into production with this summer.

Super funny. Really looking forward to shooting this. Touring. We're wilding out. We're back on tour this year, so I'm definitely going to be on the road with everybody. And, you know, dropping music in between doing everything. I just dropped a record called

Drip Drop. Uh, super upbeat, fly, just feel good music. And, um, just keep working. That's the thing about me. I stay with an attitude of gratitude and I never feel like, oh, I'm happy to be here. Like, oh, I got a lot of bread now. I could chill. No, I just feel like I worked really, really hard to do. I've worked really, really hard to do. I worked really, really hard to be able to do what I love and to be here. So with everything I do, if I'm walking on the set for my 14th season of Wild N' Out,

I'm never here like, oh yeah, they know I'm that bitch. I could chill. No, I'm working hard like it's my first day. I'm hungry like it's my first day. So that's just the attitude I keep with everything I do. So I'm working on a lot of projects between TV, film, and dropping music in between. And just waiting, really, to get to Shay Shay's couch. I'm one white bitch that don't talk.

Shay Shay, I'm Italian, baby. Oh, okay. Yeah. Shay Shay's like, have a good night, y'all. No, I'm just saying, like, you know, yeah, I'm a different type of woman. So don't worry about the- All right, we're going to get y'all. Let me ask you this.

Because I don't want you to divulge too much because I want you to divulge it on the couch. Tell us something, because we see you on Wildin' Out. We've seen you in some of your other projects. What do you like off camera? What do you like away from the set? What do you like to do? Oh, what do I like to do away from the set?

I'm very much into dogs. I work with a lot of rescues, rescue organizations. You know, I feel like, of course, I don't never want to see anyone or anything abused. But I feel like when it comes to animals, we're really their voice. So I work with a lot of dog organizations. Just in general, I like to help people. I do a lot of stuff behind the scenes i'm one of those people i don't post about like my good deeds and stuff it's kind of like a pet peeve of mine like

you know when people like do some good and post it so i just work with a bunch of foundations and help people behind the scenes um as far as dogs and humans go. And then in the meantime, in between time, you know, I like to study the things I'm trying to do. So, you know, the TV shows that I'm really into from Raising Canaan to Snowfall was my joint. Walking Dead. I like to watch and see different camera angles and different TV shows and movies. And then like I kind of write that into my script like, oh, I want the overhead shot looking down on the bed. So I'm just a student of the game, whether it comes to music or whether it comes to film and TV. So that's what I do in between doing my other stuff is just pay attention, watch and learn. Well, that's amazing. Justina, thank you for your time.

We appreciate you stopping by Nightcap. We're definitely going to have you on Club Shea Shea. We don't, we haven't, I don't know. I i'm trying to think i don't think we've ever had a a white woman on the show so we know what happens with you and white women i'm a different time i've been out for a long time now don't worry about it before you go right before you go, right? Before you go, we done got round one out of the way. I need to make sure we get round two and three.

We got two and three? Yeah, two and three. I mean, we got to do three rounds. We don't have to do it today because we got to finish up, right? But when I see you, I'd rather do it in person so you can actually feel everything I'm saying. I can feel your energy. Yeah, I need you to feel your energy. So, no,

we can do round two right now and then we do round three. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to do round two right now. Oh, you want to study. You want to study. My man want to study. Yeah, I need to finish

doing my homework. Uh-huh, you want to study. That's one thing about me. I don't need to do my homework. You feel me? Oh, I don't even have to read you that. She got that jersey. She got that jersey.

I mean, you know, she got a spark. I don't have to do my homework. That's because I'm the got that jersey. I mean, you know, she got a spoke. I don't have to do my homework. That's because I'm the teacher's pet. Hey, hey, hey, if you from Jersey. They be that bitch. Okay. Chad, that's my motto. Hey, I can't.

I'm still trying to figure out how to fuck you while Evelyn Lozado. Hey, so let me get you down. I'm going to keep it real simple. You must have been the one that was jerking off when Diddy put that shit up on his nipple. I gots to go. Hold on, hold on, hold on

Hold on, hold on I love you, Tom I love you, Chad I love you, Chad Thank you for having me One thing about it, Chad When you're dead, just play dead And so do your homework for next time

And then don't worry about it. You got to come prepared. That's one thing about me. I'm not a bully. I don't like beating up on people. You know what? Hey, hon, don't say that, hon. Hold on.

You know, listen, we could have had a live date. Now, Justina Valentine, I'm about to have it my way. I usually give a woman flowers, candy, and cars, but this ain't going to be Valentine my way. I usually give a woman flowers, candy, and cars, but this ain't going to be Valentine's Day. You unseemly. That's why I told you to do your homework, because you don't want to end on a low note.

See, it was very high until you interrupted me. I'm going to let you have it, though. We're going to finish. We're going to finish. We're going to finish. That rapper, actress, extraordinaire, host, Justina Valentine, Wildin' Out from i watch your own uh she's on season uh what what's what season are you guys on um so season 21 is going to be airing this summer so definitely check out for that um we're coming

to a city near you check out my brand new single drip drop and check out season one of what's cooking good looking season two coming. Thank y'all so much for having me. Joe, Chad, Unc, and Unc, remember, I'm a white girl you can trust. We gonna talk more later. Let's go. Boy, some things I'm just gonna never live down that way.

A little look. Y'all better leave Justina alone, boy. Hey, Unc, you gonna be good, baby. You got your umbrella, babyina alone, boy. Hey, you gonna be good, baby. You got your umbrella, baby. There's weather to storm. You gonna be good. Yes, sir. Ocho, you better leave that girl alone, Ocho.

Huh? You better leave that girl alone. Oh, she came ready. A wordplay series, boy. I mean, listen, man. No, she came ready. She came ready. She came ready, right?

She came ready, right? But listen, my wordplay series, too. I got the gift of gab, too. I've been a yapper before yapping was actually considered yapping. I've been talking for a long time. Now, you can't. We more of a Jonas. I mean, like that battle rapping, we more Jonas.

We more tell a joke. Let me tell you, I got a mentor, right? I got a mentor at battle rap, right? Twerking DNA. They're my mentors. That's why I can hang when I'm on that stage and I'm in the presence of those that do that. Okay. You feel me?

So because of the twerking DNA, I can get in there and I can do what I need to do. Now, see, she told me to end on a low note because she know I was finna turn it up or not. She's like, hold on, let me say something real quick so we don't keep going. See, y'all didn't notice that. Like a sob? Hey, in battle rap, when somebody's rapping, you never interrupt. So she interrupted for a reason, so I can't really give her that seasoning.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah, I'm more of a Jonah, but she was unbelievable. Man. She was dope. She dope. She real dope.

That was supposed to be off you. I called more straight into you. You was supposed to be the target. I've been the collateral there, but I got the blast radio. Listen, listen. We a team. So anything happen to you, it happen to me too. Okay.

It's like the Titanic. When it go down, nigga, we going down together. Ultra, I knew they were shooting outside. That's why they take my black ass out there. I ain't want none of that. Yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. The volume.

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