Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: TJ & Deebo react to Jim Jones challenging Shannon to workout & we dive into Deebo’s workouts!

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

TJ Houshmandzadeh & James Harrison react to Jim Jones challenging Shannon Sharpe to a workout, George Pickens cancels his youth camp in Pittsburgh, and much more!01:47 - Introduction04:00 - Working Out11:55 - Jim Jones challenges Shannon to workout competition16:47 - Deebo’s bearded dragon Mango23:44 - TJ’s Deebo story27:25 - George Pickens(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Buy Runs in the Family wherever books are sold. The Volume. Man, welcome to Nightcap. This is day two of Takeover Week. TJ, Luciano, that's my dog, James Harrison, goes by B-Bo. So y'all, now before we get started, y'all make sure y'all like, y'all hit that subscribe button, y'all text a friend, y'all call a friend, y'all tell them to do the same thing. We got a nice little show for you planned, NBA draft going on. We'll get into a little.

Jamie, you a big basketball fan? You watch a little bit? Okay, I can't say I'm a big basketball fan. You know, I usually start watching, you know, around the finals, you know, catch some stuff here and there, but I can't. You're probably throwing about, you shooting over the backboard, huh?

You too far to throw? Well, listen, my jumper is wet now. My jumper is wet now. Oh, your jumper wet? Yeah. Okay, so, so, as y'all see, is wet now. The jumper is wet now. Oh, your jumper wet? Yeah. OK. So so as you all see. He just finished his third workout of the day in the tank top. So he want to show off all these muscles he got.

Chad, when Chad saw he was coming on, he text me and say, typical James Harrison, he going to come on the show when I know he's really scared I start playing, you know Give me on the show anytime anytime. They don't have to do is call Yeah, he said you avoiding he was like, oh typical He want to come on the show when I know man. listen, ain't nothing about Chad worth something to me, period. Did you see the video with Shannon and Jim Jones going at it about working out?

I mean, I didn't catch it, I didn't. So that's okay, that's okay. So what we gonna do is, hopefully Shannon, hopefully Unc, if he agree to this, this is what we gonna do. We gonna sub hopefully Unc, if he agree to this, this is what we gonna do. We gonna sub him out, we just gonna let you go ahead and put yourself in. So Jim Jones, James Harrison about to be subbed in

for Shannon, workout at your place, his place. Y'all go ahead and post that. You'll do that? I don't work out with anybody, man. I mean, it's a workout, you know. It's a challenge. It's something that I, know I love doing. Yeah I don't got no problem with that. Answer this. Where did, how long you been retired now?

Oh man like seven years. Damn it's been that long? Yeah two thousand. I'm saying it's been that long and I'm longer than you. OK, where did this love for working out roll? Where did this come from? Like you've always been this way. No, not really. I can't say that I was that way. Like high school, I wasn't that way.

I really didn't get that way until I probably got into college. I started, you know, working out more because, you know, I realized the better shape you are and the stronger you get, the faster you get, the better you'll be able to go out there and play. So my goal was never to play NFL football. It was just an opportunity for me to play more football because I love to play the game. I didn't love the things that came along with it, but over time, I realized that the things that come along with it are the things that's gonna allow you to be able to play the game longer.

And from that, it became, high school was like, yo, we want you to go to college, play college. I'm like, all right, I get to go to college to play footballs. It wasn't the educational part, which it should have been. But, and then after, you know, I got through with my college career was y'all, you got an opportunity now to actually, you know, play and play in the pros.

And I'm like, oh, cool. And, you know, I'll never forget it, dude. Uh, I made the squad, got cut, you know, picked me up again, cut me again. Went to NFL Europe, came back, Baltimore cut me, and then I'm just sitting around there waiting, and Clark Hagen, he breaks his hand, and I get picked up from there, and basically the rest is history.

But the thing that really changed my approach to everything, especially how I took care of my body, how I changed my eating and everything else is a guy ended up showing me his check in 2000 or five. Yeah. How much was it? It was more than I made in the year. Bro.

They did the same. I promise you my rookie year. What was league minimum your rookie year? So your rookie year must have been 2002, 2003, one of those, right? Okay. So my rookie year league minimum was a two Oh nine. And I never forget somebody. So show me they check and we get paid every Monday. Somebody showed me they check and the check was like 500 some thousand. Oh, he had a sign on it too.

He just didn't tell you that. No, he didn't. Back then, no. Now, now, now, let me say this. It was before they took the taxes out. So he probably was bringing, he was probably bringing home about three. But when I said, this dude is making more in one week than I'm making the whole

season, that is motivation for when you see that you like, well, like 500K every Monday. Yeah. I saw a check, man. He showed me a shirt and this check was more than I made all year, you know, in those two weeks. And I was like, you know what, man, I got to stop doing everything or at least cut down on what I was doing at that point in time and start doing things necessary to take care

of my body. So, you know, I started adding, you know, different, you know, massage therapists, different therapies, period, into my regimen. And each year, you know, you end up finding somebody new and you're like, Oh, this works better. And you find somebody else new and you're like, Oh, this massage is better. So you can't go to massage envy no more and be like, give me a good mistake, you can't, you just can't do it.

So now everybody I use, you know, I fly in and I'm like, you know what? I'm going to cut out, you know, first thing I did was I'm like, alright I'm gonna cut out like drinking like during the week. So I did that and then the next was like, okay I'm gonna cut out drinking You know on the Sundays, you know, I'm not drinking alcohol. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, dude, I started first thing I did was cut drinking and Well, the first thing I did was change before that. How often would you drink during the week? How often?

man, you gotta realize my old Jesus my old Jesus, you know, Joey Porter, so You know, I'm saying like, you know Yeah, it was a little it was a little different back then. Yeah, Peezy gonna get it in now. Yeah, yeah, my boy Peezy, he would get it in. But also on that note, you know, he done stopped drinking altogether too. So, you know, that's something that he's done,

you know, after his career was over. But to go back, you know, to what we were talking about, you know, I started eating right. I stopped going, you know, I was going out to was going out to eat two, three times a day. I had somebody coming in and they were cooking, making my meals for me. So I was eating clean. After that, I started doing vitamins, trying to get, I got my blood work done to see what I was actually low on and deficient in.

So I wasn't taking unnecessary vitamins and just pissing out what I mean or taking things that I didn't need at all. And you know, for you still do that? I still do that. Yeah. I got, I got my vitamin packs that I take two to three times a day. I got one I take in the morning. I usually work out fast. So it's easier on my stomach, those pills, so I can take them, you know, on an empty stomach and it doesn't, you know, make me nauseous or anything. Um, and from there, you know, I cut out drinking during the week and then, you know, I cut out drinking in the off season.

And, you know, I cut out drinking in the season period. You know, I would drink once during, um, our rookie, you know, our rookie dinner. I would drink then, and then I cut out drinking then and I would just shoot expresso's. So it was just a progression of whatever I could do to make my career longer and the thing that I was using of course is my body. The better I could take care of my body, the better the health that I was, the longer I could play the game.

Now that you're retired, how many days per week are you working out? I'm at five days a week now. I take two days off in some way, shape or form. I used to do six. I'm just getting older, man. I'm, you know, I'm 47 years old, man. And I just can't, I can't keep up with it. And I'm not actually doing the same amount of, you you know body work and care that I was doing when I was Playing you know, I had some sort of therapy, you know every day except for And it might have been like a Friday I had you know Something that wasn't you know therapy. Um, but like, you know, saw, had my chiropractor come in twice a week.

I had my naturopath come in twice a week. I had my acupuncturist come in twice a week. I had my trainer come in, you know, once a week. I had a lady that did carbonoma had her come in once a week. And I had another guy that came in. That was like a massage chiropractor combination that came in once a week. So to keep up with that, you know, at that time you're talking, you know,

three, $300,000 or more. And, you know, right now I'm not doing what's necessary, you know, to actually need that sort of therapy, but I still see, you know, I may see the chiropractor, you know, once a month, you know, every other month or something like that. I still see my acupuncturist once a week. Um, I still do, um, things with my natural path, you know, anywhere from once to twice, you know, a month, something like that. And, you know, I'm just doing what's necessary so that I can continue to, you know, you know, try and feel better and

not. Well, Jim Jones is listening to this. I don't even know if he gonna want you to I'm not trying to go out there to destroy nobody and do nothing. No, it's this It's basically like a workout from what I take but it's a workout competition Like pull-ups push-ups dips. He ain't he ain't trying to get into the oh, I'm stronger than you It's a let's see who can knock these pull-ups out. Let's see who can do these push-ups type of thing. Oh yeah, body weight, he should be able to do.

Hey, yo, Shannon, did you work out today? Yeah, let me see ya. You talking all that shit? On weekends, I do warrior sets. These pull-ups are resistant bands, bro. Can you even lift your own body weight? You can all lift a bunch of weight. But can you lift your own body weight we can all lift a bunch of weight but can you lift your own body weight big fella the world wants to know when you gonna meet us in the gym huh that's what the world wants to know when we're gonna get them in the gym

please tell me that Stop. In the gym. Please tell me that. Cause we really do this. Remember this weekend work. No AC, just in the heat, no water for an hour. They can drop me off in the desert in case they gotta put me with the Marines

on a special mission. You ready for that? Tap in, let me know what the challenge is. on a special mission. You ready for that? Tap in, let me know what the challenge is. Oh, he really out there doing a lot of what? Okay, I see. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I mean, he's running around in his chair like that no more. Good job, man. Yeah, I like it. So you that's the type of workout he talking about right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, they gonna put that together. They gonna have to film that. And let's see. I mean, you working out five days a week. I don't know how often he working out. I want to get in there, but I'm a probably I embarrassed myself. You gotta start somewhere Nobody but yourself man

You know, okay, so I can lift more to you I'm showing you good job for you Get embarrassed I'm gonna compete now. That's Competing in the game so long land to be honest and I got I got two kids You know, I got a 15 and 17 year old son and you know, everything to them is a competition and for me right now Man, I did that for 16 years and you know, I did it at a level that you know They're they're trying to aspire to you know what I'm saying? So You know and I got to leave, you know the game, you game when I wanted to. My competitive edge of actually having to physically dominate somebody, it's just no

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And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're gonna get into that pissing you up. I can't wait to tell this story. You probably don't even remember this, but I remember it. We're gonna get to that as soon as I get to. Bro, anybody that follow him on Instagram, I probably don't even remember this, but I remember it. We gonna get to that as soon as I get to. Bro, anybody that follow him on Instagram, he has his bearded dragon and I,

and if you go to his Instagram page, like I just thought he was messing around. Like a little orange, orangey looking bearded dragon. He calling mango, cause I guess it's mango. It's a girl, it's a girl. Okay, she. Yeah, yeah. And the fascination of it like it's a wild animal you really giving mango a bath you talking to mango and it's down there like she's listening like mangoes I can see. Look, don't make him crazy.

Make up. Stop acting crazy. You got some, you got some. A little bit. Right there. That's not. That's not coming off that easy. There it is, you like that huh? Yeah, I hear it coming off huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There it is, there it is, yeah. Alright, let's go, let me get it. So where did this come from like the taking care of a bearded dragon. That's the first question. Number two, how many times she did she, she has never been. She is never, she has never been me. She's puffed her beard up at me. It's not even my dragon, man. It's my son's dragon.

The lizard has, you haven't been bitten one time. Not by her, no. Not let's say, wow, I have not been bitten one time. Not by her, no. Now, listen, wow. I have not been bitten by her. She's puffed her beard up, you know, but she hasn't bit me. And it's not my dragon. It's actually my son's dragon, James.

It's my oldest. And somehow it turned into mine. Because he don't care for her no more, so you like, I'm gonna take care of her. And I'm like, I'm gonna give her away. And I'm like, dude, I'm not about to give her away. Like, what if they don't take care of her like I do? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna give her away. And I'm like, dude, I'm not about to give her away. Like, what if they don't take care of her like I do? You know what I'm saying?

Like, I can't give her away. So, you know, I got a, I got a drug in my own. His name was Rondell Quindilius. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Your own Rondell? Listen to me, let me tell you. How you come up with the name Rondellondale bruh for a bearded dragon. Listen, his name was Rondale Quindilius Dusselberry Harrison, right?

And when I got him, he was cool. But a little while later, he started getting aggressive. So he would do the puffing the beard. So I'm like, I thought he was playing and then he jumped at me. I'm like, oh, he's trying to bite me. So I put on a glove and I'm like, I'm gonna see if they go by me do he bit me He bit when he bit the glove So I'm doing everything to try and figure out what's going on. So, you know, I'm calling it like yo

He's like try this try that. I'm you know, I'm trying everything. I'm like the he ain't it ain't working, right? Though I'm Dale gotta go right there. I gotta go. I'm like right there. I gotta go cuz I don't want to hurt him You know, I don't know why I got such a soft spot for animals I mean I could I could break somebody's neck and keep it moving but these damn animals I don't know what it is. Anyway, so I ended up giving him back Giving it to the guy that I got him from because I know he's gonna take care of him and all that, right? Man, he sends me a video Rondell is letting me pet him, pick him up, all that right? Man he sends me a video. Rondell was letting me pet him, picking him up,

all that. So Rondell, I couldn't find out he was racist. Oh so the person I got it from he wasn't black? He wasn't black. And then I gave him that and he was acting right. So I came to the conclusion that Rondell was racist. I had a dog like that once. You know what I'm saying? His name was Brooke. He was a little pug, pick a knees mix, right? And I didn't know Brooke was racist until I started bringing white friends over.

And he would try and bite him when they reached down to petting. So I tell my friends, I'm like, listen, you go to my house, man, that's a little pug, pick a knees dog. You know, he cute, he a little cute dog. You gonna want to pet him. I said, but whatever you do, he's gonna walk up to you.

Don't reach down to pet him. All he's doing is trying to get your hand close enough so he can bite you, because he's not gonna jump up to bite you. He just wants you to put your hand down there so he can bite you. And you know how white people is, man. They want to owe love on the dog.

Oh, it's such a cute dog. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do it. Don't do it. They every time go to reach down there and he try and bite the dog shit out of him. I'm like, dude, listen, my dog, they dog, I'm like, listen, I think my dog racist. Like he, soon as somebody try to reach down there

and it's a white hand, he go after it. I didn't know that. I mean, I found out later, but you know, I don't know if animals can be racist, but I mean, your animals, your animals, at least you believe they were. Listen, he let me pet him, pick him up. All that shit. Randell was he was tripping like he told you what to the cage and open it. He puffed up, started.

I knew what it was. He ain't like that. You named him Randell. That's what open it. He puffed up, started. You know what it was? He ain't like that you named him Rondell. That's what it was. He ain't like his name. He ain't like that name you gave him. My other son, he got a banana striped ball python, which is now mine again. And he is sort of, well he's nice. He's just, it's just a ball python. They ball up into a ball,

but that now has become mine too. So I'm taking care of that feed name, all their other stuff. And I had to up his intake of what he was eating because for a while he wouldn't eat nothing. Like I tried to feed him frozen, you know, all this other stuff. And I finally got, you know, I had to go to live, you know. And once I went to live, you know, after three months, he finally, you know, started eating. And now he done got so big though to where

this dude was eating like three or four at a time. So I'm like, you know what? I got to move to like a, you know, a rat or something, you know, because I'm going to the store, you know, like every two weeks, getting three, four mice. So I ended up having to get him his first rat. I ain't gonna lie to you. It was. It was a fight, you know, and he scratched, he scratched my dude up real good, but, you know, he made it through it and he got it down.

But that's another one that's it then became my animal now. Well, they lucky they lucky that you'd all honor you, the friend taking care of him because giving him a bath mango relax mango. I ain't doing none of that. So they lucky now we're going to get into this go. I ain't doing none of that. So they lucky. Now we gonna get into this football. I gotta tell you a story. I don't even know if you remember this.

He played with the Steelers as y'all know, I played with the Bengals, we played them twice a year. We was playing y'all, and you probably do not remember this. He used to just walk around with his helmet on, obviously, and he would just look at everybody just real crazy. Didn't say anything, didn't smile at you. And so one day he was, I don't know, who he was talking shit to was during a time out

with his plant. And I just walked by him, I said, fuck you always looking like you tough. You ain't tough, that's what I said to him. He didn't say one word to me. He just looked at me real crazy And so then I said, oh you think you scare me, huh? Ain't nobody scared of you boy And he brought when I say you looked at me so crazy

So then I go back to the huddle will the Anderson like we about to get the play going here Will you leave him alone? You ain't got a block you so I catch I catch a little out route and you speared me in my back and you going to look at me and you say, say another motherfucking word to me punk. I was like, what? This dude and you just, the rest of the game, every time I looked at you, you was just looking at me like, when I see you, I'm a kid. So then when I met you off the field,

I'm like, oh, buddy, cool as hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On that field? For sure. This book that you, I think everybody across the league was like, bro, James Harrison, like, for real, killer. Like, in real life, for real. Oh, yeah, yeah, I get that.

I ain't gonna lie, I get that all the time. Like guys that are my teammates, they end up getting to know me and all that. But like on the field in between those lines, dude, my dad told me when I was 10, he was like, the coach had told him he didn't feel like I was practicing hard or whatever. And I wasn't, you know, I wasn't going hard.

And my dad told me then, he was like, you know, when you step on this field, you ain't got no friends. He said, well, there's practice or a game. You go out there and you try and tear whoever's head off, it's in front of you. So from that point then, when I got on the field, I don't care if it was practice or a game,

I'm trying to do everything I can and my power will destroy you. I don't want you to finish that game. I don't want you to be injured. Like, you know. Yeah, we got that. We've. Yeah.

That's on your screens every game. Yeah. Yeah, you can play next week. I just don't want you to finish this week. I want you to know you was in a football game. Well, so I guarantee though, when you would meet people that you played against, you got the same stories.

And then they meet you. They let you. I ain't gonna lie, dude. One dude was like, dude, you broke my nose. I'm like, dude, I ain't, it was a line from Sunday. He's like, he did it twice, dude. He was like, I'm like, I don't, I don't record. I said, how you don't record?

I'm like, cause I don't. Like, do you say something to me? I'm, I'm just, I don't, I don't recall it. I said, how you don't recall it? I'm like, cause I don't. Like, do you say something to me? I'm just eating it up. I'm sitting there and running it through my head the whole time just to pick me up more and more. And when I get that chance to hit you, I am trying to lower the boom. Yeah. And you was doing it.

And the facial expressions, the body language made it even worse. Now, let's talk about George Pickens. You know what's going on with that? Yeah, I heard something about he's stupid. Okay, so I'm gonna kind of give you the backstory. Obviously, George Pickens gets drafted to the Steelers. Then they just traded him about a month and a half ago, Dallas Cowboys. So George Pickens is supposed to do a camp in Pittsburgh.

So he was traded May 7th, so just about six weeks ago. He gets traded to Dallas, but he still commits. I'm still gonna do the camp. That's what he's telling the people that's organizing and running a football camp. I'ma still come back to Pittsburgh and do the camp. That's what he's telling the people that's organizing and running a football camp. I'ma still go back to Pittsburgh and do the camp. Well, all the kids registered. George said, nah, I ain't coming back. I'm not doing the camp. I don't care what y'all do. I'm not doing the camp. So Pat Fry moved the tight end. He said, you know what? I'll step in and I'll do the count for George.

What do you think George should have done and what would you have done? For me, if I get my word, my word is my word and I'm gonna go through with it. It doesn't matter how I feel afterwards. Once I get that word, I'm going to do it. If that was something that he really, you know, just didn't want to do, I think, you know, he should have made that decision initially to be like, you know what, I don't want to do it because I think

I traded or whatever it may be. And then again, you know, you're talking about representatives. I don't know if this is something they directly heard from him, so you've got a lot of people that speak for you, especially when you're in that position, you got people that are like, no, he's still gonna do it. And sometimes they're hoping that they can convince you to actually still do it.

So was that something where his team was like, yo, he still wanna do it. And it may have been something that as soon as he got traded, he was like, you know, I'm not gonna do that. And maybe over time they were trying to talk him into it and they just couldn't get him to do it. So unless that was the direct words from him, you know, it's kind of six in one hand,

half a dozen in the other. Although that is your representative, they do speak for you. Sometimes they try and speak in your best interest, hoping they can convince you to still do it. Me personally, I feel like I'm like you. Once you say you, once you commit to something, just go ahead and do it. Cause it's a lot of kids, man.

Like they ain't getting caught up in the, he's with the Steelers now he with the Cowboys. They just want to see George Pickens. Right. So disappointed, a lot of kids and I'm sure he don't, he don't, he don't care about that. But once you say you're going to do some, whether you play for the Steelers, you play for the Cowboys, it's a day out of your time. One day out of your time, just go ahead and knock it out.

Matter of fact, don't surprise them and continue to keep them people and those young kids and those families as fans. Cause obviously they signed up for your camp cause they liked you as a Steeler. Even if you go to the Cowboys, they still gonna be a fan. So now he's lost fans, but I don't know if you know George, I've been around him a little bit. He just don't give a damn, bro. Yeah, I don't. His representatives were like,

hey, you need to do this. He probably was like, no, I ain't doing it. I don't care. I ain't doing it. I don't care what you say. I'm not doing this. I think it's unfortunate because he's probably gonna take a hit in his reputation. I don't think he's unfortunate because. He's probably going to take a hit in his reputation. I don't think he gives a damn. But those kids, that's the part of it. They just don't be disappointed. Now, when you left Pittsburgh, where'd you go? I was Cincinnati.

I thought you did. And that's why I was, I didn't know if it was New England, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, New England. Um, how was it leaving Pittsburgh going to Cincinnati? was New England Cincinnati, Cincinnati New England. How was it leaving Pittsburgh going to Cincinnati? Like the differences, the dynamic. I know you couldn't wait to play in Pittsburgh that first game, but what, how was it playing?

Because they, Pittsburgh is historically a much better organization. Obviously they've won a lot more than Cincinnati, but when we played each other, every game was always close for the most part. What was the differences between organizations that you felt like, okay, this is why the Steelers are winning more than the Bengals? They take, they take, they take better care of the players.

Like to be, the biggest thing that I noticed when I got there was the food, man. Like, you're eating the same food that's, you know, the stadium cooks, you know, that's, you know, your game day fan food, you know what I'm saying? It's the same company that's making the food. It's brought in, you know, buffet style. You got, you know, you had sandwiches that were already made up with cheese and mayonnaise on them and all the other stuff.

The best thing they had was you could possibly get an omelet made for you on site. Everything else was pre-made. It was not something that you're supposed to feed to a team or a professional team. You don't go and use F1 formula cars and put in 93 octane. They use race gas and you're feeding these high performance athletes trash and you're wondering why they're not giving you the put up that you want dude. I was bringing in my own food. You know, I was,

I was laying food from home, you know, they just got to the point like they were just serving you things that was just loaded with, you know, grease. And it was, it was not very, it was not very good, man. The facility. So we got better at that. I was just saying, that's what it was like that when I was there. They right now, I will say much, much, much better. Comparison, like when I went to, I was shocked. Everything was made to order. Only thing that was buff a style was the fruit. Okay. That's it. And so to me, it's gotten much better. And I bring that up because you know how they do the NFLPA report cards and you kind of rank.

You know how after a game and this is news to me because when I was playing all the families were indoors. As soon as you walked out the locker room, take about 10 15 steps. They all to the right. It's indoors. And they got an F because it says it's cold. It's outside, it's bad. Like, I don't know when they changed that. When you were there, were the family members outside

waiting for you after the game? Honestly, dude, I really couldn't remember. You know, I didn't have a lot of games that my people could be there. So from what I remember, I kind of met them in the parking lot area and we just got in the car we took off. So we're- You know how you walk out and it's the parking lot,

but just before you walk out into the parking lot, the families used to be in that area in the hall Yes, they're in the thing right? Yeah, but that's indoors. Maybe they've changed it But yeah, I just want to get your thoughts like like with the Steelers, it's an actual area It's a whole sitting area like you go in you go into that area You pick up your family then y'all come out y'all walk through the tunnel and then you go to your car. Oh okay it ain't like that. No. Okay I got no okay it's different. Yeah. This okay. Yeah like it was like for me like when I got to New England like they actually feed you and everything for you get out of there.

Really? Yes bruh. Whole whole brought in buffet style you know they be having steak and all that bruh. Your family come eat all that in buffet style, you know, they be having steak and all that, bro. Your family come eat all that, then y'all shoot out too. Really, in New England? Wow. See, I ain't never had that on any team. Yeah, well, the Steelers used to do it,

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