Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Tom Brady gets roasted & Ocho plans his Bengals comeback
Episode Date: May 6, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” react to Netflix’s Roast of Tom Brady, Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers pulling off a clutch comeback to steal Game 7 from the Orlando Magic, Will...ie Colon saying that Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin should be on the hot seat, and J.J. Watt telling DeMeco Ryans he’d be ready to come back to the Houston Texans if needed. Ocho is inspired by Watt and tells the Cincinnati Bengals he’ll be ready if they need him too. 02:50 - Show starts04:00 - Tom Brady Roast28:52 - Mike Tomlin on the Hot seat39:10 - Top 36 QBs43:20 - JJ Watt Texans49:30 - F1 Miami (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, let's jump right into it.
Tom Brady got roasted.
They tore his ass up too.
You know what? I didn't get a chance to see it
I saw a few clips on Twitter
I'm sure you probably saw
More than I did I just have one question
I'm sure you're very familiar
With the roast that I talked about earlier
When we talked about roast as far as
Everything being a green light especially
Back in those days where nothing was really
Frowned upon and everything
And when I say everything
was a green light even the jokes that
had a little bit of racist undertone
the watermelon joke the chicken jokes
was it anything like that
or was it a PC roast
no
it wasn't a PC they tore his ass up
and I could and Midway
and probably from the very beginning he realized
what the hell was that sign up for because you have to understand look a roast in and of itself like even though we don't have
cameras and all that when we roast one another we had the barbershop we had to get together with
the boys we roasted we bring you had to sometimes roast what do the roast lead to? A fight because you're making it too personal.
Yeah.
Yeah, see, now.
So in that situation, man, they bringing up stuff, man.
Hey, they brought up something about Mr. Craft.
He didn't seem too, I think some comedian said,
hey, I thought I was going to get a massage.
Make a reference to Mr. Craft.
And Tom like, hey, don't say that.
You can't do that.
Rule number one,
when it comes to roasting,
you do not interrupt
the person roasting at all.
You cannot interrupt the roast.
That is the whole point of a roast,
especially one of this magnitude
with a polarizing figure
like Tom Brady.
You got to sit there and take it.
Did they roast
the relationship between Giselle
and her trainer? anybody oh they went there
bro that's a rose okay i'm telling you that's when you've been around situation with guys just
start joking we call it joning call it roasting whatever you call the beat and it gets too
it gets out of hand it starts to get personal it starts to trade into a situation oh your girl or your wife or your kid
and not walk but in this situation this is what you signed up for so again you have to be careful
me could i roast somebody absolutely can you take it could i get roasted oh no oh absolutely not
i could never oh you can't You can't take no roasting?
No, because here's the thing.
The guys that you're going to need to roast me,
they know everything.
That's the point.
You get Bucket, you get Burns,
you get some of the guys that's been around me for 30 years,
they know all the bodies of Mary.
Right, right, right.
Nah.
But call O'Shea Dyle to tell somebody else that.
Let him have it.
Am I?
The whole
night. I like it.
I think, obviously, because of my personality,
because I am, I'm
pretty easygoing. I could probably
sit through a roast because I'm so used
to jonesing or ranking, whatever you call it wherever you're from i i wouldn't i would i
would enjoy that i would enjoy that if there's anything that you've done that you're not proud
about oh that's a part of roasting i understand that that's a part of no you say you see it's
easy to say that until you under and it's like it's like being in that chair
in that interrogating room man i ain't gonna tell them nothing and then they come in and they start
throwing pictures and they start talking about such and such but hold on how do you know about
that and they talk about what this is uh this is a murder this is a death sentence case this is a
capital murder you've seen the first 48 when they in Memphis this is first 48 when they lived in Liberty City
oh yes
I remember
clear as day
now they all of a sudden
they talking about
that's a
hey
they're going to put that needle
in your arm
oh yeah I know
mama not going to be able
to hug you
granny ain't going to be able
to see you no more
you know what
when it comes to me
obviously
I think your life
has been a little bit more private
as opposed to mine
everything I've done I've always lived I've always lived I've always lived publicly always me obviously i think your life has been a little bit more private as as opposed to mine everything
i've done i've always lived i've always lived i've always lived publicly always so so my good
my my goods were public and my lows were public you you understand where i'm going so i was never
one to hide behind uh social media or or a tuck my tail when i made my when i made my mistakes
i made it with my head high.
I took responsibility
and went on about my day
trying to recover
and do all the right things
to right my wrongs,
if I might say.
So that's why I say
someone like myself,
if it came to a roast,
I can take that
because I've had the brunt of the bad
in front of the world.
In front of the world.
So, I mean,
it wouldn't be no issue.
Yeah, see, for me,
like when
my boys be joining,
I don't even...
That's a small crowd, though.
That's a small crowd.
But see, now you're talking about people that
you don't know and you don't have a relationship
with you.
Joining or roasting. That's what, you know, you and I, we have a relationship with you yeah joning or roasting that's what you
know hey you and i we go back and forth with each other but you and i have a personal relationship
i wouldn't dare let somebody say some of the things that what you be talking how you be oh no
but that's but see that's the whole point of having a roast because now you're getting people
but in a roast a lot of times they start off that's what they do these are comedians like
the first 10 15 guys that roast your ass they've been doing this 10 15 30 years you had the caribou
you had the darn rickles you had the rodney danger fields you had the will wil Dangerfields. You had the Will Wilson, the Richard Pryor. All those
would let you have it.
What's up, girl?
Esther from Stampin' the Sun. What's her regular
name? Oh, my
goodness, boy.
Hey, but she was so funny
on that goddamn roast with Dean
Martin, man.
Dean Martin, oh. They got
tapes with Dean Martin. You could get like, they got tapes. They got tapes with Dean Martin.
You could get like 20 tapes of celebrity roasts where they lighting people up.
Everybody.
Yeah.
Now, like I said, going to an HBCU, if you can't Joan, you can't roast, I don't know
how you make it.
I don't know how you make it.
And we used to have the roses.
Like, we just go to each other's room
and we just zone each other. I'm talking about
zoning. I'm talking about, oh, yeah.
As a matter of fact,
my old teammate, Red
Grant. Wait.
Comedian Red Grant?
Yeah, he's on the team
at Savannah State. What position Red played?
Pullback. Wait, he must have been team at Savannah State. What position Red played? Pullback.
Wait, he must have been fat back then.
Red's small.
Yeah, he was a pullback.
Oh, God damn.
Hell, everybody was small
35 years ago.
Hey, man, I see.
Listen, I hate to change the subject.
I used to watch Red Grant
at the Laugh Factory
way back when I was in L.A.,
way back then
when D. Ray Davis
used to host some time.
That's how long I've been watching Red Grant. Damn!
That's dope.
We used to have talent shows.
Red,
another dude named, his name was
Bernard Mack.
And they would do comedy.
This other dude named Eugene
Brantley, they would have wrestling
matches. Wrestling?
The ladies would come up.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, oh. We had real live talent.
The girls, I mean,
they could really, really sing.
Oh, man.
It was unbelievable.
But when it came to that,
Joni...
Different ballgame.
You know, O'Shea.
You know, O'Shea kept the faith in the chain.
Oh, yeah.
But like you said, things that you could get away
with back then
oh you getting cancelled today
oh you getting cancelled
today cause we were
ripping them but that's
where we are now and you adapt
I still can get them off though you know I can still get the jokes
off that's my thing
so Giselle I still could get them off, though. You know I can still get the jokes off. That's my thing.
So, Gisele, Bob Craft,
Nikki Glaser with some crazy Aaron Hernandez jokes.
Who knew Drew Bledsoe was funny?
They booed Kim Kardashian.
Even Coach Belichick.
Wait, he was up there?
So that... Yeah, Coach Belichick came on that thing.
Was he funny?
Dressed like an encyclopedia salesman.
But he was...
But he was there.
He was there.
Oh, that's funny.
Oh, man, yeah.
But the roast, hey, everybody, like I said,
like comedians do really well in roasts
because they know how to take it.
That's their environment.
That's their environment.
They're used to it. That's it environment. That's their environment. They're used to it.
That's it.
It's just like a football player.
He knows how to take a hit.
A wide receiver, a running back, they know how to take a hit.
The average person, you put them out there in some pads and say,
okay, take this hit.
You're breaking something.
Something's getting broke because you don't know how to give.
You don't know how to fall.
So, but everybody, nah, them roles
ain't for everybody. Yeah, I gotta watch
that one. Obviously, I'm not watching it tonight.
As a matter of fact, I still
think they're tearing his ass up. Wait, it's still going on?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm gonna watch it in the morning.
The night ain't happening.
Yeah. It's gonna be going on, but it was good.
Like I said, I think Tom,
he probably like, once that
initial burn got over,
he like, okay. But you know,
he was sitting there like,
that sounded like a good idea at the time.
Not while you're in it. And it's too late now.
Once it's gone, it's too late, then you
can't back out.
Yeah.
You have,
you have an owner show.
I want y'all.
Somebody asked you to do something and you like,
yeah,
yeah.
And then when it comes time for you to do it,
you're like,
man,
why the hell I say,
yeah,
I know damn well.
I want to do this.
It happens all the time.
I was,
ah,
and then you get stuck,
but it is what it is.
But,
uh,
he,
he, he, it's, uh, he's doing the best he can with it.
I know that Giselle stuff, it stinks.
You think so?
To hear about your old lady was seeing...
Bro, you Tom Brady.
The greater the person, the greater ego.
You know how that works.
And to know somebody potentially was with her while you...
Man, stop it, Ocho.
Listen.
You listen.
You've always said it before.
What did you say
about expectations?
If you learn
to manage your expectations,
you won't be...
Ain't no managing
no expectations
when I've been in a marriage
for 10 years and two kids.
Ain't no managing
no expectations.
You done been around long enough expectations. You done been around long enough, now.
You done been around long enough.
You understand that you know women.
You done been around...
Come on, now.
Ring on the finger, relationship, title.
Come on, now.
So, let me ask you a question.
Let's just say for the sake of argument, you married.
Have a baby.
You have a baby. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you married. Have a baby. You have a baby.
And then, you know, baby need blood or something.
You ain't a match.
Are you managing expectations?
You're under the assumption that's your kid.
Ain't no managing no expectations and no marriage.
Maybe in a relationship.
Maybe we dating.
I should manage my expectations.
Ocho, I've been through all my expectations out the window.
I've all been with your ass.
Hey, that little Maury analogy you just gave right there?
Yeah.
We done seen it happen over the years.
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To four-month-old Marquise, you are not the father.
Man, I'm going to tear up that hospital. I ain't going to even lie.
Man, I'm going to when you're right.
I'm with you when you're right.
But there's just been so many,
so many situations.
And I always think to myself
is I try to be realistic.
Even in all situations
and put things into
logical terms, you know,
and understanding that human error
is inevitable.
We all try to strive
for perfection in all that we do.
And many of us
continue to always fall at times by the
wayside, no matter how
perfect we try to be. And I
always keep that way, way, way,
way in the back of my head.
All the way in the back.
Way back. Just with understanding that as as great as
individuals try to be as partners at times they make mistakes at times they do so even with that
ojo even with that minor the fact that you've been in this relationship so long yeah thinking
and right and you like how could it be because she's with me or she's at
working but she's found a way to deceive me for it appeared even if it even if it's only for 30
minutes even if it's only for an hour let alone and here's the thing that gets a man when the
woman steps out on him in the relationship because in in order for that woman to step out of that man,
she feels something.
Yeah.
You see, unless a woman is a prostitute,
she can't distinguish fuck from feeling.
No, no, no.
So there is an attachment to that guy.
Emotional attachment.
Yes.
A guy, when they say a guy will hit a snake,
if you hold a head, he'll hit the wood
pile that the snake in if he thought he was
in there. That's how disaffected they are
with that situation. But for
a woman
to have a sexual relationship
with a man and she's in a relationship
or she's married
Yeah.
And that's what get it. Because
you know, you know, you've been there.
Yeah.
Think about it.
Think about this.
And obviously you've been a part of that circle, the elite, part of the 1%.
You've heard the stories.
You've heard the countless stories of these situations happening over and over and over.
And one thing, I mean, retaining one thing I've never done throughout the years and anyone I was dealing with, I never thought
I was that big of a person
where it can't happen to me.
Ever. Ever.
Ever. Ever. Ever. And one thing I've
never done is I never put anything past
anyone, no matter who it was.
No matter how much I loved them.
Never put anything past anyone.
Human error
is inevitable.
Inevitable.
Yeah.
And that's just the way I've always lived.
And that mindset has always saved me from being hurt.
Disappointed, yes.
Disappointment, yes.
Being hurt, no.
Because here's the thing.
See, women are not the thing. See,
women are not impulsive.
Men are impulsive.
See, a woman... Oh, yeah, strategic.
She's going to call her girlfriends, hey, we're at the mall,
go buy me something from Victoria's Secret.
Now, she's going to buy you what? She's going to meet up
with her girlfriend, get it, put that on for you
with old dude to knock the hoops off.
Come on now, talk now.
Now you found that out because she planned it. girlfriend, get it, put that on for you when old dude done knocked the poop off. Come on now, talk now.
Now you found that out because she planned it.
Call it meditation.
See, women are not impulsive.
Women are not impulsive.
Three steps ahead.
Always.
Because women are like cats.
See, a cat can sneak up on you
and rub on your lips.
You go hear a dog, a dog will come, you go hear a dog a dog will come you hear his
feet on the floor or you hear him pant can't sneak up on you rub on your leg where you come from
so he done planned it yeah but you but you know all that and then when you find out then you find
out yeah but but you listen one thing about it is and I can be honest
we family chat
when you've been on the other end
of the spectrum
when you've been on the other end
of the spectrum
for so many years
and you were a part of the planning
you get where I'm going?
stay with me
when you were a part of the planning
that's being done
then you're a little bit more seasoned
you're a little bit more seasoned
to understand
when something ain't right
yeah i'm trying i'm trying to take you there without really going there
okay yeah are you are you picking up what i'm putting down okay i picked it up with me now
but but the chat understands i mean uh i'm sure uh the people in the chat i mean sometimes you
know how guys are ain't nobody ever did this to me.
I ain't never did.
You the one.
Yeah.
Somebody probably got on right now.
All right.
Swinging from the chandelier
while you talking about it ain't happening.
You up here talking to Ocho and I
and somebody got him.
Hey.
Hip deep.
But hey, that's the thing with a roast, Ocho, so if people know
that, all your
indiscretions.
Yeah, man.
So, Tom Brady, a better man than me.
Like I said, hey, one-on-one in the locker room,
we with the boys. I'm the roast champ.
Man, alive.
Oh, that thing gonna be aired?
Oh, dude.
Ocho, the Cleveland Cavaliers won their first playoff series
without LeBron James since 1993, 106-94, and it wasn't easy.
They came from 18 points down, the largest come-from-behind win
in a Game 7 in NBA history.
Excuse me.
Donovan Mitchell, after following his 50
points in the game six loss, would not be
denied. He had 24 of his
39 points in the second half.
Cleveland trailed by as many as 18 in the first
half and by 10 at the half.
The comeback was the largest in the game seven
at least since 1998. Not
ever since 1998. The Cavaliers
will face the top seeded Boston Celtics in the
Eastern Conference Semifinals,
game one in Boston,
TD Garden on Tuesday.
You know, I have a question.
Again, your basketball knowledge
is eons above mine.
So when I think about the Cavs
having to face the Celtics,
for one, congratulations to
the Cavs on winning
and what they were able
to accomplish.
Yeah.
But do they match up well?
Like when it comes to boxing,
styles wins fights.
Style of fighters wins fight depending on who's fighting.
Obviously, it's the playoffs.
Do the Cavs even stand a chance?
Even with what Donovan Mitchell was able to do,
Wagner, Carter, some of those fellas.
I mean, not too bad.
Wagner, Franz Wagner did not play well.
He was one for 15, 0 for 5.
Suggs was 2 of 13, 2 of 10 from 3.
Really, no one really played
well. Pablo
Banqueiro, he was
what? He wasn't efficient,
but he got to the foul line. 35
and 16. He's the second youngest
player to have a 35-15 game
since Magic Johnson.
Wendell Carter Jr.
But, dude,
to answer your question... They only have a two-headed
monster. They only got Garland and Mitchell.
Yeah, and Garland
hadn't played particularly well the last...
He didn't play particularly well this series.
It'll be interesting. Now, they're going to need more than
Donald and Mitchell to go off. It would help
if they had Jared Allen.
I don't know if he's coming back the next series.
But him being out, that's the Twin Towers.
He and Evelyn Mobley, they can block shots.
They can alter shots.
But without him being there, I don't know if they have –
could they win a game?
Yes.
Yes.
Do I expect them to win the series?
Absolutely not.
Even with Chris Stafford Zingers being out,
I just think Boston is
too much. So they're going to shoot him out the gym then, basically.
Basically. Basically.
Look,
Strews will probably
take, Okuru
will probably take Tatum. Strews will probably take Okuru will probably take Tatum
Strews probably will deal with
Jalen Brown
and then
Garland will probably take
I'm assuming he'll probably go take
Derek White
because you want to save Donovan Mitchell
he's your best offensive weapon
if you don't want him expending a whole lot of energy
on the defensive end.
Right.
So, I'm thinking
who's going to start? Probably Big Al
will start in front of...
Since Przingis is
out, inevitably
they'll deal with him. But I
just don't see Cleveland
having enough to deal with Boston.
Damn.
Well, hell, you might as well just...
Boston going to the...
Might as well chalk this series up then, basically.
But here's the thing, though.
Everybody, you remember what happened last year?
First play of the game.
Jason Tatum shoots the ball in the game,
seven against Miami.
Tweaked that ankle, knee,
he wasn't the same, boom.
So everybody, you're a superstar.
Rolled ankle, tweak knee, something,
and now it changes the entirety of the series.
But I like Boston in the series,
but give the Cavaliers and Donovan Mitchell,
we know Donovan is big time.
We've seen him go have 50-point games before.
I think he had 57 against the Nuggets.
I think both of those 57-point games, he lost.
Those 50-point games, he lost.
Did he lose to the Nuggets when he dropped 57 on them in the bubble?
Because I know he lost the other day, game six.
But I think both of his 50-point playoff games, he's lost.
I like it.
I like it.
But they are moving on, and they will face the Boston Celtics.
Tuesday, right?
Game one, Tuesday.
Okay.
Hip off at TD Garden.
I'm waiting on tomorrow.
I mean, since we're on the topic of basketball,
like, I'm locked in.
I'm waiting on tomorrow.
I'm trying to see that young fella, man,
down there in Minnesota, man.
Man.
Wait, they do play tomorrow, right?
I'm not tripping.
Oh, my goodness, man.
Matter of fact, I like young bull.
I like young bull games so much.
I'm probably going, and you know how I am about money.
I'm probably going to and you know how I am about money, I'm probably going to
take a trip to Minnesota.
I'm probably going to take a trip to Minnesota
and sit courtside just to watch
Young Bull play. I got to see
that in person at least once. And I hope it's one of those
four. I hope it's one of those 31,
43 point games.
43 point games.
Yeah.
Dang. So, Magic had a great season. They're a very, 43-point games. Yeah.
So, Magic had a great season.
They're a very, very young team.
Van Carrow is going to be something special.
He's unbelievable.
You see why Orlando took him number one overall.
A 38-point effort.
Second youngest guy to do a 38-15 game since Magic Johnson.
That's saying something. Anytime it's you and Magic,
you're in pre-elite company.
Cavaliers move on.
They face the Celtics on Tuesday
in game one. Now it's time for
News Cap.
We got graphics.
There we go.
I'll be panicking.
We missed graphics one time, but we got the graphics.
Willie Colon says Mike Tomlin is on the hot seat.
The Steelers are 0-4 in the postseason dating back to 2017.
And the team's former offensive lineman, Willie Colon,
thinks Mike Tomlin should be on the hot seat given those recent playoff struggles.
The issue with Tomlin right now is he wins games he's supposed to win,
but he loses games he shouldn't lose.
And now Steelers Nation is frustrated because they're looking at the
organization right now that is well above average,
and then they lose bonehead games.
I'm saying to myself, well, who are the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Are they the bullies or are they the dweebs right now?
If you lost to the Patriots and the Cardinals, you look like dweebs.
You like what Colon had to say?
You agree with what he had to say?
The only Willie Colon I know is a Spanish singer.
Let's start there.
So I'm trying to understand, Mr. Willie Colon, why his words and how he feels and what he's saying
holds any weight.
Why it holds any weight. Now,
Mike Tomlin,
the whole point of
everything you want to do as a head coach
coming in is your end goal
at the end of the day is a Lombardi trophy.
Right? Correct.
He hasn't had a quarterback. For one, let's start there. Ben Roethlisberger
was on the tail end. On the tail end, you got Mason Rudolph. You have Kenny Pickett.
Things haven't worked out. So until you get a quarterback in-house, you understand how difficult
it is to win games and get back to that historic winning franchise that you're used to unless you have a quarterback in place.
So let's say they do fire Mike Tomlin.
What happens next?
If you still don't have your quarterback situation figured out, you're right back at square one.
Going through the same shit, the same rigmarole as you were before
mike town has been very good for the organization his resume and what he's done for them has it
speaks for itself so why willie cologne wants to come out and say some of the things he's saying
now it matters not it matters not i think i think the is, Ocho, when prominent players play
for an organization
and they speak negative
about the organization,
it carries a little bit more weight
than some casual.
If you were to say something,
if you were to say something
negative about Cincinnati,
people are going to listen.
Yeah, but I would never.
I would never.
But I'm just saying.
Can I ask you a question?
How did you just say that?
Just real quick.
Yes.
Now, I would be critical in certain aspects when things aren't going well.
Have you ever been critical of the Ravens in general or the Broncos?
I'm just curious.
Mm-hmm.
Absolutely.
So, when you say someone spoke out against the Steelers, who are you referring to?
I'm talking about Willie Colon.
I don't even know who that is.
You see what I mean?
What does that tell you?
He's an offensive lineman.
He played when you played.
Yeah, man, I don't got no man.
Tell Willie to go sit down somewhere, man.
Tell Willie to go sit down.
I know Willie Parker.
I know Willie Parker.
I don't know no goddamn Willie Colon.
Listen, he name don't hold no goddamn weight.
No disrespect.
Listen, I'm a Bengal
fan at heart
taking up for the goddamn Steeler organization
because I don't know who the hell Willie Colon is with this
bullshit he talking about.
You don't think Mike Tomlin
should be on the hot seat? You know what? Okay. You know what? Putting him on the hot
seat is okay. Let's
put him on the hot seat.
Okay, let's put him on a hot seat we have two
quarterbacks in in question we have justin fields and we have russell wilson we have a great
supporting cast offensively nijay harris two receivers am i i don't you got you got to excuse
me real quick is deontay johnson still there or is he gone? No, he's gone.
He's in Carolina.
He's in Carolina.
So we got brother George Pickens.
Who's on the other side of George?
Don't start me a line.
I don't know.
I didn't follow the draft, so I don't know if they drafted somebody or not.
I really don't.
I don't like that.
Because if I can't ring off the receivers and supporting cast that Russell Wilson and Justin Fields have to work with,
that's not a good thing.
This is a passing league, so you're going to need catchers of the ball.
Catchers of the ball that I actually have knowledge about and know about because it makes the quarterback job that much easier.
Whoever the offensive coordinator is with the Steelers,
it makes his job easier.
The better catchers of the pass, oh my easier. The better catchers of the past,
oh my God,
the better catchers of the ball that you have.
I'm going to say receivers. I don't know why I keep saying that.
Mm-hmm.
Damn, man. Willie Colon. Come on, man.
Willie Colon, he making headlines.
That's what happens.
Look,
me personally, Ocho,
I try to stay away in the offseason
because there's nothing happening.
They just had the draft.
You got OTAs.
You got training camp.
Once the season starts,
because a lot of times, Ocho,
a lot of times, look,
in this business, what we're in,
a lot of time, people, analysts,
prognosticators,
whatever you want to call them, they want to be first.
Them being right, they want to be first.
And so I'm going to base it on what I see over a period of time.
Now, the standard is the standard for the Steelers.
They expect to compete from Lombardi's.
And they haven't been able to do that in a very long time.
Now, Mike Tomlin is not the only coach that's been dealing with quarterback issues.
And we hold those coaches accountable.
So that's all I'm saying
is that we hold other coaches accountable
for the play of the team.
And I think, look willie can have his opinion and i don't want to speak for willie but i'm just saying like when i
evaluate and you know cow bowler and when we had t-boy and we had some of the other quarterback
i'm like bro and yeah it it probably hurt more because it came from me. It came from me.
And so I know it probably,
but they know at the end of the day,
there's no malicious intent.
I'm just basically,
because I got to do that, Ocho.
I can't just criticize everybody else
and then let the Ravens and the Broncos skate.
See, but coming from you,
it means something.
It holds weight.
Okay?
Based on your resume and what you've done.
You have a gold jacket.
So coming from you, it hits home.
It stings a little bit, especially for those players that are there that play for the Ravens.
Especially those players that are there that play for the Broncos.
Now, that's no disrespect to Willie Colon.
I played the game for a very long time.
I played against the Steelers twice a year for a decade straight.
This individual that has said what he said about Mike Tomlin against the Steelers twice a year for a decade straight. This individual that
has said what he said about Mike Tomlin and the Steelers organization, I have no clue or idea
who the hell that is. And I mean that with all due respect. But with him with great understanding
of knowing that you played the game and you understand the situations that are lacking
in Pittsburgh, why say Mike Tomlin's on the hot seat
when he doesn't have the adequate parts
that are needed to compete
for those Super Bowl titles like they have?
Which, if I'm not mistaken, they have six of them.
Yes.
The Steelers organization is unlike any other.
They normally let the head coach leave
on his own free will.
That's why they've only had three
in the last almost 60 years.
They had
Chuck Nall, who left on his
own, 92. They had Coach
Cowher, who left on his own,
and the heck of Mike Tomlin. So here
is the situation. Normally the coaches
leave on their own.
The Steelers, they're not moved by
fans booing and saying
fire this. They're not moved by.
No.
They're not going to let the fans bully them.
A friend of mine in Pittsburgh, Ed Bouchette, people writing stuff into me.
That's not how the Roonies, that's not how they move.
They understand.
See, they're football lifers.
All they've ever done is football.
With the exception of a year since 1933,
they've owned the team, had a year off, got it back.
But for the most part, this is what they do.
This is who they are.
Now, they've had some brothers branch off
and do the casino and the horse, things like that.
But this branches of the Roonies, this is what they do.
So they understand that it's not like a normal business that you have ebbs and flows
and then, you know, hey,
get a new CEO.
That's not how the Roonies. So the Roonies
are not going to react
say like a lot of other owners
would when the fans
become restless or they print
negative or negative things are being written
or said about them in the paper.
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Touchdown Wire ranks the NFL top 36 quarterbacks.
We already know who number one was, so...
Joe Burrow!
Josh Allen was two.
What?
Joe Burrow was three.
Yeah.
Okay. Josh was two. Burrow was three. Herbert was two. What? Joe Burrow was three. Yeah. Okay.
Josh was two.
Burrow was three.
Herbert was four.
C.J. Stroud, five.
Stafford, six.
Lamar, seven.
Jordan Love, eight.
Aaron Rodgers, nine.
Trevor Lawrence is ten.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me look at my notes.
Let me look at my notes and rework.
Chat, y'all stay with me, chat, and tell me if I'm wrong about reordering this list of quarterbacks.
Now, number one is Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I didn't even read his name.
Number one is Patrick Mahomes. Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can see that.
Number two, to me, chat, despite the injuries number two and joe burrow okay then
we can go josh allen yeah okay number four should be lamar jackson what are we doing
what i mean all things being said i'm not so sure Lamar should be past two or three. Okay.
Lamar Jackson should be next.
Now, Justin Herbert, I love him to death.
He's been in L.A. for, is this year four or year five coming up?
Five.
Five. I think it's five.
C.J. Stroud in one season has outplayed Justin Herbert.
Chat, do you agree with me?
Chat, let me know if you agree with me.
Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. So, C. agree with me? Chat, let me know if you agree with me. Yeah. Okay.
So CJ Stroud should be four.
Now, wherever you want to take it from there
with everybody else,
that's on you.
That's just my four picks
based on what I've seen
the past couple of seasons,
and especially CJ Stroud's rookie season.
Historic.
I'll try. Yes, sir. Ocho, they got Justin
Fields ranked in front of Russell Wilson.
You see what I'm talking about?
You see what I'm talking about?
Hold on. They got Deshaun
Watson ranked behind J.J. McCarthy,
behind Gardner Minshew,
behind Will Levis, behind Jacoby
Brissett, behind Drake May,
behind Caleb Williams. Really? What are we doing? you behind Will Levis, behind Jacoby Brissett, behind Drake May, behind
Caleb Williams. Really?
What are we doing? Why is Tua all the way
at fucking... Oh, shit. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Why is Tua all the way at 18?
So, what are they
basing? What are they basing? What is touchdown?
I'm not sure who touchdown...
That's their list. They put a list together, Ocho, so don't start
me lying. Okay, I'm not going to start you lying, but let's, like, come on
now. Like, this
is how touchdown wire, you can
lack credibility. When you have
a list like this, that is all out of
sorts. Chat, I know y'all
agree with me, especially with my first four.
As far as everybody else, after
four, I'm assuming it's based on
preference, but you would want to use it
based on stats
and what those quarterbacks have done for their team.
I want to know what they're basing it on
because
to have Trevor Lawrence
in front of
Brock Purdy. Wait a minute.
How is Brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts
all the way...
They got Kirk Cousins, who hasn't won
a playoff game.
I think he won one. He's won one. Okay who hasn't won a playoff game. I think he won one.
He's won one.
Okay, he's won one playoff game in front of Jalen Hurts, in front of Tua.
Dad, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff.
I think Goff is a little too high.
He should be a little lower.
Tyler Murray.
Listen, come on now.
Come on, touchdown wire.
Come on, man.
We got to do better now.
We got to do better.
I'm not sure.
I'm sure you have a great knowledge
of the game of football,
but this is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
I'm going to create my own goddamn chart.
Go ahead.
We'll put it up.
Houston, Texas revival has caught the j has caught jj
was attention the three-time nfl defensive player of the year hasn't played since 2022
but if the texans head coach demico ryan gives him a call he's willing to consider coming out
of retirement i told demico last year i said don't call unless you absolutely need it. But if you ever do call, I'll be there.
And he knows not to call unless it's absolutely necessary.
I like that.
Matter of fact, I'm going to try that too.
I'm going to try that too.
Since D'Amico, Ryan, and J.J. Watt have that type of relationship where if you really need me and you make that call, but make sure you really, really do need me,
I'm going to try that with Zach Taylor.
I'm going to try it with Zach Taylor.
First of all,
it ain't going to work.
If you need some fresh legs
in training camp,
you want to give T,
you want to give Brother Burton,
you want to give Chase a little rest,
bring me in there.
You want to give Tyler Borden?
Yo ass O, ain't nothing on you French. to give Tyler Borden your plus? Your ass O.
Ain't nothing on you, French.
Who O? I have no wear and tear.
I have no wear and tear and I played it.
You got age.
Age is nothing but a number.
Number. Yeah, and your
number is higher than hell. I ain't number
56. I ain't number 56.
You can't tell me I can't go play right now
on third down. You mean to tell me I can't go on third and three? You put me in the slot. You think I can't number 56. You can't tell me I can't go play right now on third downs. You mean to tell me I can't go on
third and three? You put me in the slot. You think
I can't toss somebody up right now?
Aren't you
playing Madden?
Aren't you playing Madden? I'm talking about real life.
No, I'm
talking about real life. You play Madden on real life.
What you don't even understand about me is what you don't get
to see in the offseason is I train
with these fellas every year in the offseason as a DB with Jamar Chase, with Stephon. I cover them boys.
So I know I'm still able and willing to move and cover, transition, stop, start right along with
them. So if the opportunity presented itself because I'm in such great shape,
even at 56,
I know I can go out there and compete
on special occasions, third downs.
And I'd be an animal right now
for the Bengals right now.
The only special occasion you competing for
is Mother's Day, Father's Day,
all the holidays.
Those are the special occasions
that you're going to be at.
I don't like the fact that you don't believe
in me. You know what you sound like?
You sound like my teacher in elementary school.
She didn't believe in me either. She told me
I would never amount to anything.
Matter of fact, Mike Brown, Katie,
Troy, twins,
if you see this, please, if the opportunity presents
itself, please just bring me into training
camp. Just bring me into training
camp so you can see what I look like
and you will notice
even though a decade plus
removed from the game
of football
I still look the same.
I'm just as fast.
Just give me a chance.
Give me a chance.
Listen.
Mike Brown.
Bring your man
and let him talk to the team.
You saw the movie Rudy?
They gave Rudy a chance?
Yeah.
Give Ocho a chance.
I won't let you down.
Bring Ocho in.
He's great.
He can talk to the young man.
Let him know what to expect in the NFL.
Talk while I'm competing?
Get them how to manage the money
and things of that nature.
Do not bring Ocho in
because Ocho cannot play in the NFL.
That's a lie.
When preparation meets opportunity,
guess who shows up?
Huh?
When opportunity comes knocking,
guess who's going to answer the door?
Me.
Ha ha.
You ain't.
Listen, we can still do nightcap.
We can still do nightcap.
Because the Bengals play at 1 o'clock.
I'll be able to get on after the game.
Ocho.
Ocho.
You can't play. I don't like thatcho You can't play I don't like that you
I don't like that you saying that
I don't like that you saying that
It's okay
You have
Hey man you were up with
Hey
You was here
I'm still well
That's what I'm talking about
I'm still well
I'm still well
Hey I'm not
Nah you pissing me off man
Real shit
I can play man
Bengals organization
Zach Taylor
Please
Just bring me into training camp
I just want to show up
You can cut me Cut me after week one I just want to show up you can cut me
cut me after week one
I just want to
I just want to put
some film together
ain't nobody
ain't nobody
taking 10 years off
from a sport
that's as physical
as the game of football
ain't going to go back
out there
you're not doing it
you call that shit
they doing out there
right now physical
do you know who I play
I played against the Steelers
and the Ravens
twice a
year. That's physical.
You can't even hit nobody today.
You know what I had to
do with no injuries.
And you can't go out there today.
So that's evil.
Look at this.
Imagine this again on Sunday out there right now.
What you talking about, baby?
Let's go.
Man, I thought that was all about...
I thought that was all about...
Let's go.
Now, you know what?
They're going to bring me in just because of this.
Just because you said I can't do it,
they're going to bring me in just to prove you wrong.
Ocho.
Maybe, you know what?
If you was like a year removed,
two years back,
I'd say, you know what, Ocho?
You're right.
I've been hyping you up. I'd say, man, you need to give Ocho a chance.
You talk about a year removed.
I never removed myself from the NFL.
I never stopped training.
I've been training the past decade just in
case that call comes because you never know.
I'm always prepared.
I'm always ready.
Let me ask you a question.
How'd it come?
That's because the opportunity
to present itself
because I didn't put myself out there.
It ain't going to present itself.
It ain't presenting itself.
It is.
For the last decade,
you've been waiting on a call.
No, I didn't say it.
I didn't say I was waiting on the call.
I said I didn't put myself out there
to let them know that,
you know what,
my services are available
like J.J. Watt.
You know what I'm saying?
I made the call. You ain't put yourself out there
but I made the call.
I'm making the call right now because they're
going to see this. They're going to see this.
No, we're going to
edit this out.
What the fuck?
Hey, that's funny.
They're not going to see this.
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robber max that was nice um my experience obviously i went to f1 uh with the missus
it was it was awesome uh i thought i didn't go saturday i thought sunday would be
the best the best best thing for me to get there and watch the race being my second time
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I enjoyed it.
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When I saw it,
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when I saw Brother Norris
had almost a four or five second lead.
I knew at that point he was winning
because there were only 11, 12 laps to go.
The atmosphere,
I'm not sure if you ever attended F1 before.
The energy, the atmosphere
is energetic.
The fans are engaged
throughout the entire time, especially when someone
makes a good pass. And the excitement
from the fans and the clapping and the cheering
is
phenomenal. So if you haven't attended F1,
you have to do it. That was my third time.
Obviously, I went to F1 in Miami last year. I was able to go in Vegas.
Who? Thank you again. Also to Las Vegas, the Las Vegas, Las Vegas tourism.
I can't remember the name exactly, but I thank you all for that for that opportunity and that experience.
But F1 was phenomenal oh it was
phenomenal man i it yeah i think they call it a rich man sport and when you're in that atmosphere
and you win it and you're in that environment i i feel a little uh uncomfortable you know because i
you can see you can you can smell the money if if you know what i mean you got i'm not sure how
many cars on the track 20 $20 million a car.
I had someone explaining to me the prices of the cars.
Unc, the engine by itself is like by 100 grand.
Come on, man, what are we doing?
Somebody wrecked out there, Unc.
And the first thing I said,
that's $20 million down the drain.
That's what it takes about a year to run those cars,
about $20 million.
The steering wheel
is $100,000.
What are we doing?
And the tires,
you think about
how many sets of tires
they go through
in the course of a year
and how you build those cars
to dissipate.
So they basically
disintegrate,
take all that energy
away from the driver
yeah I was going to go Ocho
but I got I'm
I'm all over the place the next 10
days so I was like ain't no way I can
do Miami because I already got to do Philly
Indy Atlanta New York Houston
all in the next 10 days
if you need me to come with you man I have
no problem I you know keep you company
and you know I could be right there on your side as your biggest support and biggest cheerleader.
So if you need me, let me know.
I got Miles, Spirit, Flyers, all the places that you just mentioned.
And I won't hesitate.
Well, I think next week you're going to be in New York with me.
What are we doing in New York?
Well, that's news to me.
You're breaking the news to me. What are we doing in New York? That's news to me. You're breaking the news to me.
What are we doing in New York?
Well, I guess they've been talking to
Rail. Rail?
I'm sure Rail will fill you in.
Wait, this is Nightcap, Unc and Ocho.
How you just adding a third party?
Featuring Rail.
Look at this one here.
She was in the streets.
She's just coming in the streets with her girls.
We're going to New York.
Hey.
Yeah.
Well, Larelle, how you doing?
How was F1 today?
I had to bring him along, but it was a hit.
Yeah.
Yeah. yeah the volume
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