Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Tom Brady teases NFL comeback + Rai Benjamin joins

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by USA Olympic 400-meter hurdle gold medalist Rai Benjamin to recap his 2024 Paris Olympic performance, Tom Brady hinting at another NFL comeback and much more!03:40 - Show Starts05:00 - TB12 coming back?25:35 - JJ Mcarthy season is over31:45 - Dak Contract talks34:37 - Rai Benjamin joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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know that if I want to come out of retirement, they still got something to deal with. Brady just turned 47. He retired after the 2022 season, and he has not played a game since January 16th of 2023.

Ocho, why Brady keep doing this? I don't know. I think he'd like it. I think he'd like it. Or he might be setting it up for something big. I don't think it's a return to the game of football. But, I mean, he's already going to anchor the CBS network, right? Oh, Fox.

It's Fox. Okay. He can be anchoring on Fox. So him coming back is probably not likely, but he might be setting up for something else. He's just playing the seed. I'm not sure what the seed may be, but obviously playing football is not it.

Why would you give up $37 million? He's got a 10-year deal down there at $400 million. Yeah. You get to it. I don't give a damn if he comes back and plays another five years. Yes, sir. I'm going to tell you what my brother told me when I thought about coming

back for year 15, instead of taking that desk job at CBS. Right. He said, boy, you get too old to play football. You don't get too old to talk. Hmm.

I like that. So let me ask you a question, Ocho. And also one of the things that I had to decide, if I won another Super Bowl, was that going to change anybody's perception of me? No. If I had another 1,000-yard season, another 50-catch season? No.

No, sir. What can Tom Brady do to change anybody's perception of him? Absolutely nothing except change the narrative about being too old to play the game of football at the quarterback position that's probably that's probably it that narrative that you it can still be done or probably he's one of the few that can probably do it well into his 40s almost to the age of 50 and i mean this it doesn't change the narrative at all he's the goat he's the greatest of all time with a young fella down there in Kansas City right on his heels. That's pretty much it. I just think, look, there are going to be a lot of guys that's going to play

unless they don't suffer a significant injury. You're going to see a lot of guys playing 18, 19, 20 season. The rules will allow it. You can't punish the quarterback like you once could. And if you could, man, they get sawed in half. You don't want to take that kind of punishment, Ojo. So, look, I just think he's having fun with it. I think

from time to time, like, y'all know me. Y'all know I can still do this, right? Yeah. Go ahead. This is the thing I like about the new Tom. I call it the new Tom because the Tom in New England is the Tom that... The Tom in New England is the Tom that... The Tom in New England

is the serious Tom. I'm about business, Tom. I'm coming to my job. But the Tom we got in Tampa Bay was the side that the players got to see inside the locker room when there were no cameras around. The fun Tom.

The personality Tom. The Tom that makes jokes. You know, in New England, I tried to get him on Twitter for the longest. In New England, I tried to get him on Instagram for the longest. He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't budge. All of a sudden, he gets to Tampa. Brand new man. I can finally be myself. I'm finally, I don't want to use the words, I'm finally free, but I can just be myself without having to

mask who I truly am up under the Patriot way. If that, if that makes sense. And we, now we get to see the fun guy. We get to see the fun guy on Twitter. You know, he's, he's making content videos and, and having fun. And I think it's dope vlogging and all this other stuff. And that's a time that we never got to see. Well, we got to see it, you know, that fun side of him. But the world never got to see it. And now it's a coming out party for him. And he's taking advantage of it. I think the thing is, for the most part, Ocho,

the only guy that really was himself at all times was Gronk. Yeah, most definitely. Gronk was that college frat guy that drank beers, had a good time, yelled and screamed. He took care of his business off on the field. There's no question about it. But he was himself. Coach Belichick wasn't able to suppress who Gronk was.

The Gronk that you see, that's how he is. He's really what you see. That's how he is. He's a what you see. That's how he is. He's a big, fun-loving, frat. You know, you think of a frat guy at a PWI that drinks, have a good time, go have on khakis and a blazer when he goes somewhere. That's Gronk. But he's going to have a great time.

He's a great guy. He's a fun guy to be around. And Coach Belichick wasn't able to suppress that. I don't know if we got anybody else's personality in new england other than grump and when you got and when and and when you got because i think the thing is that you understood why you was there he controlled everything there was never a situation where i'm here because the coach wanted me but the general manager didn't i'm here because the coach wanted me, but the general manager didn't. I'm here because the general manager wanted me, but the coach didn't.

They're the same person. So you know you was there because of Coach Belichick. You know if you weren't there, it was because of Coach Belichick. And for the longest time, Tom was okay with that. But at some point in time, Tom realized, I'm doing all this, and you still treat me like the 23rd, the 48th guy on the roster? So why the hell am I doing all this? Towards the treat me like the 23rd to 50th, the 48th guy on the roster. Yeah. So why am I doing all this?

Yep. Towards the end. Yeah. Yes. He's like, I'm not on Twitter. I'm not doing any of these things and I still get the same abuse. I get the same.

Nah, hell nah. So as you notice at the time, Ian, he stopped coming to OTAs and he started to stop doing all that. Oh, that training. Yeah.

No, I think, I think he got to the point where Bill understood the position. He felt Tom's time had maybe run his course a little bit with the Garoppolo situation. I think Tom felt the

pressure of Bill probably wanting to go in that direction. I think Tom might have talked to craft and saying you know what i don't want this individual over my shoulder you know how that is for for starting quarterbacks yes um and i think they just they just had to get rid of them and um i i listen i could be speculating but i'm just thinking how it played out in my head and how it played out. Hell, in front of all our eyes, that might have been the issue.

And I think Tom really had nothing to worry about. But I think it was Bill. Bill was ready to go in another direction, feeling that Tom had done all he could and not realizing, you know, Tom leaves and goes and wins another goddamn Super Bowl. That's crazy. That's always the feeling. In a perfect story, you couldn't write it any better. To leave a team where a coach

assumedly doesn't believe you anymore and wants to move on and you go to the next team and win a Superbowl. And it's people like Tom Brady that make people think playing the quarterback position in the NFL is easy because he and Patrick Mahomes make it look so

fucking easy, yet it's so difficult. They make it look so easy, but yet it's so difficult. I think the thing was, look, the writing was on the wall. When you heard, when this Seth Wickersham wrote this article about how they came to a come-to-Jesus meeting,

and Mr. Kraft gave Coach Belichick an ultimatum that Jimmy Garoppolo was going to be traded against Coach Belichick, and he didn't want that to happen. That was his guy, because Coach Belichick had been in the NFL long enough to know that you need a bridge, that if you let a quarterback die on the vine, and you don't have a bridge you get the miami dolphins yeah you get the buffalo bills and so you don't have that great that succession plan or like the green bay packers you go from brent farm to aaron rogers to george

now they got lucky they got think about it what what what other team or entity in that matter has had the luck of the Packers with three in a row like that? Not quarterback situation. We can go from Joe Montana to Steve Young, but that stops at two quarterbacks. But you know Jeff Garcia had a good – Jeff Garcia was good. Jeff was nice. Jeff was pretty good.

But I mean – But not Hall of Fame. No, not what the packers have had you got you got eight you had 18 years of brett you had 18 years of aaron rogers and it looks like you might have 18 years of of of jordan so you might have 50 plus years of great quarterback yeah almost like the steelers coaching situation so you knew it was it was coming and i said this at the time right when tom wanted Tom wanted an extension on his contract, and all they did was take money and give it to him in a signing bonus,

and then they extend it, I said, he gone. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you not extend it? If you wanted him, that's a golden opportunity. Yeah. And so now, and I remember, and i said this also i said tom mr craft won this one he won't win the next one coach belichick's gonna get his way because he's not gonna stop

because the problem is is that he wanted to show see the definitely oh joe a lot of times when you have success and when you see successful groups break up, it's because there's a power struggle going on. Yeah. If you if you know, you know, if you're in the business, if you're around it, you can see it. But to the casual fan, they don't see it. Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. You see, when when Bill Walsh retired, they won the Super Bowl the next year. Yeah.

So there was no there was no it was Bill. Ith retired. They won the Super Bowl the next year. Yeah. So there was no, there was no, it was Bill, it was Joe, but they won the Super Bowl next year and they got to the NFC Championship. It was called for a three-peat. Yeah.

So now there was always question, who's most responsible for the Patriots dynasty? Is it Tom? Is it Bill? I think it's a little bit of both. I think. All I know is one guy went and got a super won a Super Bowl and went to the playoff every year and the other guy uh went to the playoff one year got bounced in the first round and never went back to the playoffs again

yeah well you know I think I think on on Bill's on Bill's behalf you have to think the importance of the quarterback position we all know it everybody in the chat that's listening you understand how important the quarterback position is now all know it. Everybody in the chat that's listening, you understand how important the quarterback position is. Now, when you're not able to fulfill that spot, then you're not able to do other things with the freedom that Bill had when Tom was in place. You have to understand. When you look at the New England Patriots

and the landscape of that team throughout the years, the pieces to the puzzle constantly change each year, whether it be offensively, whether it be defensively, but as long as you had that centerpiece in Tom there and everything ran through him, you were going to be fine. You were going to be sick. You could do any and everything

because you understood he was going to protect the ball in the most crucial times and not turn it over and all he had to do was go play defense. And what was Bill Belichick? He was a defensively, he was a defensive genius. He's a guru on the defensive side of the ball. And listen, they did the best job at taking away your best weapon.

They were the best at that. And it's just unfortunate. I don't want to say the word. I don't want to use egos. I don't want to say egos got in the way. It was a damn pissing contest on who was responsible, but I think it ruined a great thing.

It ruined a great thing. Of course. I think the thing is, Ocho, because you saw coordinators come and go, be it offense, defense, it didn't matter, the players. And people are like, well, Tom, you have to understand, everybody can't play in that system. Every great player can't play for Coach Belichick. He took players when he goes in drafts they're doing an evaluation about ego is this guy gonna be okay catching one pass two passes one week and then maybe not catch

another pass for two or three weeks and so you have to evaluate that because the one thing that you're not gonna do is mope on coach belichick's time no he gonna get you up out of there so you have to understand you have to if like i said oh joe if you know you know you and i played the game for an extended period of time so we know how that things work and i had a coach very similar now he wasn't as rigid mike was not as rigid as coach velichick but mike wasn't gonna settle for that i don't care what round you was drafted in i don't care how much money he gave you mike would get your ass up out of there yeah if you did anything that wasn't team related yeah and matter of fact the fact that you say that remember you asked me uh not too long ago maybe maybe two or three shows ago you asked me was i okay with how things were

going in new england being that it wasn't a productive season that i'm used to having you know here you look at my goddamn numbers every year, you already know what time it was. I was giving that work. And he was like, well, listen, whether I was okay with it or not, I understood once you walk in that building, nobody even has to say anything.

I don't know what it is about the Patriots and the Patriot way and you having a great understanding that you're expendable, no matter who you are. Small example. Well, you saw it happen, Ocho. Look at all the great players that they had. They cut Lloyd and Malloy on a Tuesday. Ty Long left.

William McGinnis left. All those guys. All those guys. It didn't matter. Yeah, it didn't matter. Richard Seymour. Let me tell you something. You know when you can do all that? When you got that goddamn 12 sitting back there and you got nothing to worry about because you can feel every you can feel all the other roles via draft and in the offseason through free agency but then think about this one of the things one of the reasons why i probably would

have never even if i didn't have this example or saw this example randy moss was upset about something i think it might have been contract. It might have been money. He was just coming off that season. What'd they do? What'd they do? Yeah. And he said something in the media about contract, about getting paid.

You remember that? I do remember that. And he went back to Minnesota. He was going what? It wasn't even 24 hours? Yeah. Oh, my God. Boy, listen.

You already know what time it is. Yes. I wasn't going over there cutting up oh on who one of the greatest of all one of the greatest one of the top three players of all time go well who the fuck am I ain't nobody shit I was walking on eggshell the whole time

well the thing was Ocho they should sell Tom Brady at at Alto Sephora because he's the greatest makeup ever because he can cover he can cover up all blemishes that the Patriots had because he was so good so he's

makeup and there only been a handful of guys you get a guy like Patrick Mahomes that can do that he's makeup Tom Brady he's makeup those guys like that you got blemishes on your team, they can hide them. They're on the filter on IG. Make everything look good.

And lo and behold, you hemorrhaging. You fat. You out of shape. You're terrible. But that guy can make you look good. And Tom Brady is the ultimate makeup. And we might not ever see that again. Now, Patrick Mahomes is firing.

But what Tom was able to do, I thought when he got to three in his first three or four years, I thought he could get to five. I ain't see that. I ain't see seven. And I didn't see them constantly in contention. I mean, think about it. He lost to Peyton

three times in the AFC Championship game. He lost to Eli twice. That's another five appearances. That's another five. That's crazy. When you think about it. We talk about the NFL. We talk about players that have played the damn Renos, the Barry Sanders

hell, myself, T.O. I'm thinking about all the about players that have played the damn Renos, the Barry Sanders hell, myself, T.O. I'm thinking about all the great players that have played this game for who knows how long. Never had the opportunity of playing in the Super Bowl. Or if you did play in the Super Bowl, you only played once. And then you got Tom,

you got Mahomes going back over and over and over like he's playing a goddamn game of Madden. Bill and goddamn Tom Brady done been what? Ten times? Ten times. Ten times? This is real life.

This is not a video game. Do you know how difficult it is? Yeah, I know. Yeah, I do. To get to the Super Bowl every year. Yeah. Or every two or every three or whatever it may be. They make it look so easy when the game is very difficult to the point.

I see why people question the game of football being rigged, the NFL being rigged because they make it look so goddamn easy. But I swear for God, I swear for God, for you, for those of you in the chat that watch the game of football and, and think, Oh,

this is going to happen or, this is stage or this is, I trust me. It's not, you can't do it those individuals are just that good i swear yeah i saw it in person for a whole year so look that's his legacy if he wants to come back but the last thing you want to see is a guy that hangs on too long we saw johnny we saw joe namer we saw willie may staggering staggering into outfield rescue. So we've seen some of

our great players play a little bit longer than what they should. That's their career. That's theirs. Whatever you choose to do, when you've been a great player, if you want to go out on your term, if you want to go out like that, so be it. I'm not here to judge you.

But Tom, I look at Tom like a Coach K, like a dean smith like a pat head summit unless he did something so egregious that he's just unforgivable right right right you let him go out when he wants to go out that's what they did for coach k that's what they did for coach uh coach smith that's what they did for coach summit that's what they did for Coach Smith. That's what they did for Coach Summit. That's what they do for the greats. Coach Wooden. I believe Tom is so great of

a player. He's been so great to that organization. He's been so great to the city of Boston and the surrounding areas. You let him go out on his own. You're like, Tom, how long you want to play, Tom? I'm serious, Ocho. You do. Yeah. You do.

Yeah. I mean... Me, I mean, listen, if he was to come back, I don't think it would be the Patriots. I don't think it would be. And the funny thing about it... No, he's done with there. Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the funny thing you said about you know, the deal

with Fox and 37 million or whatever it may be. Fox ain't going nowhere. No. Fox ain't going nowhere. Fox is going to always be there. Being able to talk and be in that booth and be in that broadcast, you know, be in that booth doing football games and commentating and breaking down games. That's going to always be there. But at 47, if I want to fulfill that childhood dream and that urge to play and compete one more time, I mean, there's an opportunity and chance for him to do it because he is the one person that can do it at 47. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn

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Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. JJ McCarthy's 2024 season is over before it got started. The Vikings' rookie quarterback will be sidelined until 2025 after undergoing surgery Wednesday to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee. This leaves the team veteran Sam Darnall, who signed a one-year contract worth $10 million in March, as the likely starter in 2024. There are other quarterbacks on the Vikings roster, 2023 holdovers McMullins and Jaron Hall. McCarthy suffered the right meniscus tear

during the Minnesota preseason opener against the Las Vegas Raiders on Saturday and sat out of Monday's practice with the initial thought was knee soreness. Further tests to reveal he had torn his meniscus, prompting surgery. Listen, I'm not. You know, I don't wish injury on nobody. You know, I show love and I praise everybody.

I always take it back to nutrition. I think about our days when we played. We had two days, we practiced two hours and 30 minutes a day. We didn't fall like flies. We didn't fall like flies like this. I don't know. I don't,

I don't know what it is. And I don't want to, I don't want to spin it in any wrong way. You know, out of, out of respect, CBA protecting the players practices are much shorter. Now,

you know, they have all these professional nutritionists and all these meal plans and all this all this stuff but for some reason now when we practice and we played we had two days we practiced for two hours and 30 minutes in the mornings took a break rested and had another two hour and 30 minute practice after and we played football yeah no disrespect to today's game we played football. Yeah. No disrespect to today's game. We played football, but we weren't falling like flies. Now,

injuries are going to happen. Do you know how many injuries this Vince in training camp started? We are in week one, almost a week and a half. Yeah. And that's, and that's probably why,

you know, a lot of the starters, we play, we might not play game one. We play 10 plays. The next day we played like 20 plays. The third game. Oh We played 10 plays. The next play, we played like 20 plays. The third game... We're playing all the way to halftime.

We're going to halftime and probably the first drive of the third quarter. Yeah. In the fourth quarter, we relax. Then the fourth game, we're not playing. I wanted to play Ocho because I needed to get my rhythm. I was a rhythm playero because i need to get my rhythm i was a rhythm player obviously offense is rhythm but i was a

rhythm player yeah i needed steps i needed a cadence i needed to feel people banging on me that's not my not guys in in camp on my team right right i needed somebody else to see i needed to see something else i needed to see guys moving that were trying to make the team awesome. At game speed. Yeah, yeah. At game speed. I needed that. But I just think, Ocho, for us, you're asking these guys to like, you know what?

Come in. We're not going to do anything. Not going to do anything. And then a month later, go 100 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah. I just think you're asking an awful lot and maybe the guys they train too damn much damn they don't get anybody's chance to heal you think i took time off once the season was over i took a good month i ain't do nothing four

to five weeks i ain't do nothing yeah i took about i took about i took about two months and then i was starting to gradually build back up. Now, I was lifting. You know, I do a little light lifting, but I wasn't doing any running. And then the running, I would gradually build up, gradually build up. So by the time May hit, now I'm about 75%, 80%. Now, June, I'm going to ramp that thing up to get to about 95%, and then I'm going to start tapering it back down,

getting ready to go to camp, make sure I ain't got no tweaks, no anything. Because the last thing you want to do is go into camp nicked. No, you don't want that. You don't want to go into the season. If you limp into the season, you're going to live out of it. Because how do you get healthy, Ocho, when

you've got to practice every day? And them games come like this here. Yeah, back to back. Back to back. Back to back. Hopefully the rookie bounces back because he looked like he was off to a promising start. I know that's not what he envisioned for his rookie season, but hey, bro. Yeah.

He'll learn a lot. But what the Vikings do need to do, or what they do need to do, and this is no disrespect to what they have on the roster that's left. Now, who do we expect to be the starter now? Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold? No disrespect to him. No disrespect to him.

But we've seen the small sample size of what he brings to the table. No, we've seen large sample size. Okay. Well, I'm calling what he's done so far a small sample size because it hasn't been much. And I mean, no disrespect, you know, the eye in the sky. Don't lie. The film doesn't lie.

And I mean that in the most respectful way. Sam, I love you. Now, what they need to do is to get a veteran because number 18. He's a veteran. No, I mean, I mean, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Well, Nick Mullins, you know, Nick Mullins, he's with Shanahan and Ocho. The thing is, it's hard to get veteran players because they cost so much.

They can't do 18 like that over there. They got to get a young fella, somebody. They got to give him some type of gunslinger. They got to give him some type of security, some type of something, because what's going to happen is the numbers are going to, the numbers are going to, what's the word I'm looking for? Decrease. They're going to decrease

because of who's at the helm. They got to get him somebody in there. I don't know. Where's Garoppolo? I don't know. Where's Jimmy G? In Atlanta? He's in Atlanta?

I don't know where he's at. I'm just somebody who can hell, Fitzpatrick can hell Fitzpatrick bring Fitzpatrick out of retirement nah it's over Fitzmagic I mean you know listen he's not magic Durant oh he's at the Rams oh he is yeah but he's behind Stetson Bennett

cause it's Stafford Bennett and then Jimmy G Jimmy can sling that thing man the porn star Jimmy can sling that thing yeah I. The porn star Jimmy can sling that thing. Yeah, I thought he was going to be at the ABP convention. But hey. They need to go get him. And I'm telling you, at some point in the season,

Justin Jeffries, he's going to act a fool. He's going to act a fool. As much as Jack Prescott's contractual future has been a constant talking point in the offseason, he says he's not consumed by it. I'm not putting that much thought into it. Hoping it gets done now,

hoping it gets done in a couple of weeks during the season or whenever it happens. I just know conversations are on the, are on the right way. That can then the final year of his deal. He said to make $29 million count 55 million against the cap without an extension that will hit the free agency, count $55 million against the cap. Without an extension, Dak will hit the free agency market and count $40 million against the Cowboys cap in 2025. What he has, Ocho,

they cannot franchise it. Right. They can't trade him either. They cannot trade him. So he has all the power. Yeah. Yeah. Which, you know what?

Which, think about this. How many times are players in a position where they have the team by the balls? Think about it. Not often. Not often. Not often at all. I mean, it's a chess move. If I was Dak, I mean, what do you do? What would you do if he was Dak? Me, myself, if I was Dak and understanding the circus that comes with being a part of the star, I would better myself like he's always done. Like he's always done.

I don't think they're going to get it done because what he's looking for, he's looking for 60 million. He's looking to reset the market. He's looking at something around five years, $300 million. He should be able to do it. I think that's what's holding up CD's deal as well. So,

I think that's the thing, Ocho. That's what they're looking at. Huh? 60? He's looking at 60 million. He's looking to reset the market. Well, if you're going to reset it, let's go 56 a year. No, that ain't resetting the market. 55, you got three guys making 55. In order to reset it,

you got to go 60. I'm just telling you, because here's the thing, Ocho, and Jeremiah says, I'm not willing to go there, but in free agency, in order to get a player, he might get 65.

In order to get a player to leave the situation that he's currently in, you're going to have to overpay it. Pay, yeah, most definitely. Every every time and this is the wonderful thing about the nfl too depending on when when a player's time is up because very few times do do you get to a position where you are a it's unrestricted right am i saying it right yeah he's gonna be unrestricted unrestricted free agent very few times especially the quarterback position with no chance of the tag being placed on you nothing so that mean you're getting every every bit of dollar plus some because whenever especially somewhat a quarterback like the caliber of of that prescott which some will make fun of and say well he hasn't done anything listen he changes the dynamic of a team because

there's no one else you can put in his place on the cowboys right now except maybe the top five or five or six quarterbacks in nfl and they would still do the same thing and probably a little further in the postseason but that is all right i hate to catch off but we got a very very special guest we got we got the olympic 400 meter hurdle champ that's right that's about there for me he came back and redeemed himself. He said, I'm coming back. When I had the conversation with him in 2021. I've been coming with the looks like you, O. What's up, baby? He said

he's coming back. He wanted revenge. He's been chasing Karsten Warhol, the world record holder, for the better part of three years. And he finally tracked him down. The Norwegian and the white. Here he is ladies and gentlemen, your 400 meter

hurdle champ with a time of 46 46, Rye Benjamin. Yes, sir. Nephew, what's going on? I'm living the dream right now. Living the dream, brother. Let me ask you this, Rye. Obviously you have an outstanding season

you've been performing really really well give us your mindset going into the olympics you had raced him i think you raced him uh once before at a diamond league meet pre-olympics and so you had to feel good because you beat him and you had beaten him three times since he last beat you i think at the uh at the olympics budapest yeah in budap at the Olympics. Budapest, yeah, in Budapest. They won Budapest last year, and then we went to Prefontaine. I won that meet. Then we went to Monaco before the Olympics. That was a big one.

We were all there. I won that one. So going into the Olympics, I felt really confident. I was calm. I really trusted myself. I think mentally I was in a way different place than I was. I could tell. Yeah. Previous years and previous seasons. So, I mean, I just I went in. I had the confidence, you know, like I felt good energy a lot of football games. I've been to Death Valley, LSU. Okay. And I have never heard a stadium get that loud in my entire life. It was crazy. So it was, it was, it was phenomenal,

phenomenal experience. So, um, just, you know, I went in with a completely different mindset and I was like, yeah, like I'm, I'm, I'm the guy to beat and the only person that's gonna beat me is me so yeah yeah i have a question speaking of that race at the olympics did you understand his strengths and weaknesses and did you have any type of strategic game plan going into that race and knowing what to do and when when to kind of hit it when to back off man what were your plans in general i think so over the past three four years we've raced so much so i have seen every single race plan every race strategy and i think for me uh work the three of us are so good that very little separates us. And it's about who can be on that day.

Who's going to get it on that day? And I think, you know, throughout the entire cycle of the semis, I mean, the heat semis finals, you know, I got dealt the right hand. And those guys ran out, ran ran fast like the first two rounds so i knew being out in lane eight i was going to be the one to kind of dictate what the race would look like so in my head i was like all right like i need to i need i need to really push the pace but not do too much so i have enough to come home that last 120 meters when when when when we got out like he gets out really really hard so he covered me a little bit right and my whole thing was all right just run in lane eight like focus on your your 10 hurdles in your lane and get off that turn like put your foot in

the ground and just go go yeah and then coach watts uh quincy Quincy Watts, he has a, we have this, we joke around sometimes and he's like, yeah, if it's leaving, I'm leaving. So we got off hurdle seven and I was like, all right, man, I'm out of here, man. So whatever happens happens. And I don't know if you guys saw, but like I was coming out, coming off a seven and I stumbled a little bit. I was running so fast that like the centrifugal force pulled me out to the outside of the lane and i kind of like stumbled a little bit and i think that kind of costed me like maybe 46 flat but at the same time like i just had so much momentum i just kept going so that was just that was my uh that was my game plan going in to be honest with with you, just run my pattern. Do what I've been doing the entire season.

I mean, Unk, we talk. Unk will send me a message sometimes after the race, even if it went good or bad. I mean, yeah, it was phenomenal, man. I'm on cloud nine right now. I can tell. The thing that I

always wondered, I say, all these guys, you look at yourself, I mean, the four fastest guys ever in Hurling history was in that race. Aberdeen Samba, Dos Santos, Warren Holmes, yourself. If I line all you guys up and I say run 100 meters, you're going to win. If I line all you guys up in a 200 and say race, you're going to win. If I line all you guys up in a 400 and say race, you're going to win. I I line all you guys up in a 400 and say, race, you're going to win. I say, why don't I

put this man under the gun? See, it's a difference. So the 400 and the 400 hurdles are two completely different animals. Really? Yeah. It's a completely different rhythm and if anything

it's like you know when you drive a really fast car and it just kind of wants to go all the time. You'll be in the neighborhood and there'll be a speed bump on the road and you can't really go. So you kind of like gunning it light to light. But you can't really go with it up because you got no barriers. I can't really do what I need to do because these hurdles are in my way and I got to be on a certain pattern. And if that if you're not on that pattern, like you start stutter stepping up and it kind of ruins the rhythm. Are you just talking about how when you played, you need to be in a certain rhythm?

Yes. And you needed those games to get in that rhythm, that offensive rhythm. So for me, it's like I need to be on that rhythm consistently. Okay. Sometimes it requires me slowing down a little bit. And no matter how strong you are, you still got to get over those ten barriers. So that was the that's that was kind of the the the kryptonite for me. I mean, like in the even like you can see when i run open fours or even in the four by four like i can let it go yeah you care and i was about

i was about to ask you about that in the open four you know tobogo you know he's run low 44 you know he just ran 1946 he's run 98. So you know he has the strength. So when you got the baton, what was your strategy? Because when you say what you say, I'm going to say what I thought you were going to do. Yeah. So when I got the baton, Bryce did a phenomenal job. I mean, from Chris to Vernon, you know, V had a hell of a meet. Hell of a meet.

Vern really opened it up for you. Vern did the job. That's my roommate. That's my roommate. So when Bryce brought the baton in, I mean, he was 43-5, like, on fire coming through. And I saw how close the Botswana kid was closing. So in my head, I'm like, okay, if, when he gets the baton, he's going to be at least two steps behind me.

And I know he's going to try and, and either cover me or sit on the first, the first hundred. So in my head, I was like, all right, don't blast the first hundred like you usually do. Out in about like 10, 9, 10, 8. So you can hold it down the back stretch. That way I can get his legs moving because he's Tobogo. He's a 200 guy and he just ran 19, 4.

So my whole thought process was he could probably make it to, I know he can run to 300. He could probably make it to, I know he can run to 300. He could probably make it to 350. And this last 50 is going to be hot if I could bring us through 300 at like 31 flat. So I'm like, all right, in my head, I'm just like, all right, take him out first hundred and let him spin his legs down the back stretch. And he was doing that. And like, I can hear him and it got so loud in that stadium, but I can hear him behind me so i'm in my head i'm just like all right stay calm stay calm keep that cadence keep spinning and he he stayed at bay and then we got to that last 120 and it looks like i was jogging but no you don't you would

open my form so smooth i was open man and i was just like are we gonna get it this last hundred so this last we got through 300 to 350 and he's still at bay and i like kind of the the crowd made a sound yeah the crowd made a sound and usually when the crowd makes a sound it's either somebody pulls up or somebody fell so i'm i looked up at the jumbotron and i'm just like i couldn't see him because his uniform's blue and the track is purple right and I'm just like, I couldn't see him because his uniforms blew in the track is purple and I'm so fast. So I check again and I was like, damn, he's still here. I got a goal. So I like dug deep, got to 350 and about five, 10 meters before the line. Like I was, I was, I was honestly shot and it was just, but he was too.

Yeah. before the line like i was i was i was honestly shot and it was just but he was too yeah and that's where the reps and and and being disciplined and being experienced like comes in because i know when that happens like you're not really getting any faster that last hundred what's happening is is who's slowing down the slowest so for me it was just like man like don't get walked man like i get a gold medal on tv in front of these people because I wasn't going to hear the end of it. So, yeah, I did exactly that. And right on for them guys, man. So I was like, real, really hyped up and pumped up about that. I'm not going to lie.

I thought he was going to cover you early. I said he has the type of speed that he's gonna put right under the gun quick i thought he would jump you i actually thought he would cover you over the first 100 to 150 and then get the lead and then settle down once he did and i was like i think he might be making a mistake i say now i think go ahead no i think if i got out any slower he probably would have done that okay but i got out at such a pace where it was like, it's, it's kind of enticing where you kind of want to go, but you know, you know, if you go, you're going to die. So I, I can really, because I run hurdles and it's so rhythmic and I know how to differentiate times. Like I know like what threshold and, and, and what kind of cadence to be on um so it was just

it was just kind of like a bait and switch kind of deal and and just it's a it's a gamble you just played out and played out very well so and it it works perfectly especially when you know your opponent you know your opponent you know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses and the fact that you understood his at that time you knew what to do in that race you know your opponent. You know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses and the fact that you understood his at that time, you knew what to do in that race. You know, one of the funny things, as soon as you got the baton, as soon as you got the baton and started going,

I started looking, does anyone else tell you your running mechanics and your gait is similar to Michael Johnson? I heard someone say that. You notice that? Straight up, black. to michael johnson i heard you notice that yeah like you know straight up my legs is like yeah yeah i'm like what the hell that look like i got there yeah you got to be that way because when you start tensing and you start muscling stuff like that's when you start going backwards

so that's that's really the trick right there to be honest is just staying relaxed staying open and just running really really efficiently did you realize no waste and movement none of that right we had michael johnson on and i remember in stu guard when they broke the world record in the 400 meters um they ran 254 29 and i i can go back in my head i know andrew ballman laid off with 44 or 44 5 and he went to quincy your coach and i think he ran 43 3 43 5 he had it to the world record holder at the time uh butch reynolds and he ran low 40 43 the race was blown open michael johnson got the baton he said because we had almost broke the world record when we broke it but i ran like mid 44 almost 45 because i was asking him i said mike you do

realize you ran sub 43 with a 30 minute lead with a 30 meter lead and i said why he said because i didn't want to hear their mouths he said they had talked about me so bad so he ran 42.9 did you think you guys had a chance going into that race did you think this was going to be the second fastest 400 4x4 in the history? I thought we could have broken it last year. So after Budapest, if you go to my Instagram, you look at my last relay post from Budapest. I was like, let's go after the world record next year because we had all the pieces. Quincy's running well v's running well i mean i could get on a relay and give you a really hot split

michael norman he was coming back to run well chris bailey bryce deadman and then we had little quincy just like you know just shoot up out of uh i mean i'm not gonna say out of nowhere but like no one was expecting him to run 44 low right Right. And it's just phenomenal. So we had all the pieces. The issue is, is figuring out who to put on what leg to maximize those legs. OK. And I think because Quincy had that little tweak in his hamstring in his final, we had to reshuffle the order. But I knew we still had the pieces because V had split 43 twice in the mix.

Three times because he ran the mix relay twice and he opened in the qualifier. Yeah, so V had the 43 in him. I knew Bryce had 43 in him as well too because he was consistently running 44 lows. I knew if Bryce if bryce

lights come on he's he's gonna bring that stick around because he's from texas nm right so he's gonna run and and it just all came down to what my leg would be i actually wanted to run second this meet because i knew if i ran second i would would run 42.8 or 42.9. Wow. Yeah. Because I just know second leg is the best leg because you can, on that tangent, when you cut in, you can kind of cheat some meters if you do it right. Yes. That's why all them second leg splits were so fast.

I mean, you still got to be fast to be on that second leg, but if you do it right and you run a good tangent, I'm telling you you can cheat it a little bit and you can get that split. Initially, when that happened, Coach Mike Marsh came and was just like, hey man, I need a dog on anchor leg because... Yeah, you had to be

on anchor. I don't mean to cut you off, but I don't know if anybody could have held Tobago off other than you. Because you, like you said, you have a strategy. He didn't put you under the gun because of your pace. I think

somebody else would have panicked. And if you panic in that situation, he's going to chase you down like the Great Britain did Antonio Pettigrew. We saw a good friend of mine, Angelo Taylor, same thing in the Olympics. If you panic on that anchor leg, because everybody got their boy dog on the anchor.

So everybody can go sub-43, could go sub-44 on an anchor leg. And so you... Every single guy's first leg was 43. Them boys came to run. They really came. They were not playing around, man. They were not playing around.

I did not see this. I did not see 254, 35. I damn sure didn't see the women. I damn sure didn't see the women challenging the Soviets because I wasn't enough to see that, remember that race in Seoul when the Soviet women, and it was Flojo and the 400 meter champ on anchor leg. What are the asterisks on the Soviets,

Manik? Listen, hey, they weren't there, so they're not there for me. Yeah. I mean, you ran 43-13. Tobago runs 43-03. That's the fastest

split that you've ever run by far. Did you know? I mean, think about it now. You just run 44, 46, do through the rounds, qualify, did what you needed to do. The night before. The night before. Yes.

Did you know you had that in your legs? Not really, to be honest with you. In my head, I'm just like just like yo man like i need to i like when he when we both got the stick i was like i don't know if the broadcast showed it but i like turned in the stands and i just started to smile and i'm like yeah this is about to be crazy yeah and i'm like yeah i gotta lock in for this one but i mean when it comes to the relays like i'm i'm usually that's the fun part like i I'm usually that's the fun part. Like I always tell people that's the fun part. The hard part is doing your individual event.

The fun part is when you get all those guys together. And although we're there as a team, track and field is an individual sport. So it's just one of those things where you have a moment to share as a team. And I think that's where I thrive is when we come together as a team and and share like this experience so when I got the stick in my head I'm like I can't let these boys down because they did their job yeah I gotta do my it's all on you and and and bring home gold for team USA so that was just that was that was the focus for me but I had no idea we got the backstretch my agent was on the backstretch and I was like what did I split I was like, what did I split? He was like 43, 13.

I was like, there's no way. But it was a it was I couldn't believe it because I after I got done like I wasn't on the floor. I mean, I had a little bit of lactic acid, but I just feel like I was just so excited. You were floating, bro. It's like, man, it was

definitely floating. Can I ask you this? Can I get you to the women? You had Femke. You had Sid. And everybody's trying to build this thing up because Femke won the indoor. She ran 49.17. We saw Sid, who really, she's run 22.07 in the 200 meters, which is still like the eighth or ninth fastest time ever covered by covered by a woman in 2024 we saw her run 48 75 it's just slightly off the american record

why were they trying to build this up when femke has never been close to see it i think because The week prior, they, Femke went to this meet and had run 50.9. So, and she did it by herself. And I think what people neglected about that, although, I mean, 50.9 is ridiculously fast. And she did a phenomenal job just navigating 10 hurdles by herself doing that. I think what people neglected about that me because a lot of fast times came out of that meet it was at altitude yeah and a lot of people don't realize when you're at altitude you have less resistance yeah in the air so that's why that kind of hype came and you kind of want to build the hype around the event too as well too

because femke was running well all year and it seemed as though that she was the one to give Sydney a run for her money. But Sydney is like, she's like, man, like you seen John Wick? Yes. Coach Holloway from Florida called me John Wick. I call Sydney John Wick. Listen, she's going to kill you every time, man. And if she doesn't, it's going to be you're going to have to

it's going to have to be an act of God for her to lose a race. But here's the thing. Every world record Sid has set, she's been running by herself. It's not like she's getting pushed. It's not like somebody's going over hurdle nine with her. I think the only time Dalila Muhammad pushed her, I think the last Olympics, the Lula Muhammad pushed her.

But if you look at Sid's record at Prefontaine, you look at her at the USA's, you look at her at this beat, ain't nobody close. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she just runs with such confidence, you know, and is is I feel like at a certain point you could teach so much. And then after that, it's just pure God given talent, man. And she just has that and that you can't teach, can't instill in anybody. You're just born with that. And there's just nothing you could do about that at all. Let me ask you this. Tell me if you agree or disagree. I think Sid finishes out this year. Maybe she runs one

meet. Maybe she runs another meet. And she does the World Championships and the 400 hurdles. But I think after that, I think Bobby is going to move her down to the no barriers. And she's going to go after that 47-60 by Madarina Cote. I think she does it next year.

I think she does it next year. Okay. I think she does it next year. I mean, it's like, what else does she need to accomplish in the 400? That is so far out of reach. I mean, I feel like she will, for fun, run it once and maybe like... She tried to go sub 50? She goes

sub 50, but I mean, she's proven. She broke the world record twice, but I mean, like, she's proven, like, she broke the world record twice this year, you know? It's like, she doesn't have anything else to prove in the event. So, I mean, like, why not go run the four next year? I feel like that would be my thought process. Like, let's go try something

else and yeah. You never know. It's Bobby, you know? Bobby, listen, heby you know bobby listen he you know he just he that man is trying to leave legacies yeah yeah so i mean i don't see why not it's not far-fetched paulino el nasa she got some i mean paulino just ran 48 17 which is what i think it might be the third or fourth fastest time ever run for a woman in the open four yeah you got Cratchalova you got Colt and I think her that 48 17 that might be the that might be the third or if third or fourth for female covered 400 meters I know that yeah yeah I I think you know listen I think I think Sydney gets locked in and honed into an event and she figures out that rhythm and they really hone in on a pattern to do it.

It's dangerous because she's 22-0 open at the foot speed. And she ran 10-9, if I'm not mistaken, when she was at Kentucky, at UF. Raining outside. It was crazy. So she could come through easy. It ain't a place for her to do 23-5 and then come home. It doesn't matter getting on that rhythm. She gets on that rhythm and then she's dangerous.

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That's all I got. I'm happy just to hear the stories. You know, and that feeling and watching you run that last leg bro man kudos salute congratulations there's really not much more i can say or ask at this point i'm just i'm just i'm just happy for you and look forward to all future endeavors man on that track yes sir you know michael got this uh this uh this track series Are you going to join that, Ry? Hey, reach out, brother.

The money, the money, the money see, Ry. Reach out, man. I had some conversations with Kyle. He's working with Michael as well, too. So I like what they're doing. I feel like this Olympics and this year was really pivotal for track and field. And it really, it really got some, we got some new eyes on the sport and people are interested. So it doesn't stop for us at the Olympics guys.

Like it just, we have a whole season and we have this coming up. So all those head to heads that you saw at the Olympics, like you can see them on numerous occasions throughout the year. And Sid's going to be on that circuit as well, too. I know she's one of the first ones that Michael signed as well, too. So I know a lot of people, like, give her a lot of grief about not racing enough during the year.

Well, you're going to see her race there. So tune in. But they reach out to me. Hey, I'm in there. You feel me? I'm in there. Do you have any more meets? I know there are a couple of Diamond League meets still left in the season.

Are you going to – I know you don't like going overseas. You don't like that long plane ride. Get off a plane, head to the track, and go run. You don't really like that. But are we going to see Ry in any Diamond League meets? No, I'm done for this year. You're going to ride this wave. You're going to ride this wave.

Yeah, I'm going to ride this wave you gonna ride this wave i'm gonna ride this wave out man like i don't think people understand the the level of mental commitment and and gymnastics that you got to be at throughout the entire because i started competing monday so i went monday through sunday right and uh it was me vernon shelby mckeown the high jumper uh michael norman bryce we're all in the same room so i mean i mean we we're all just kind of feeding off each other. So it's a, it's a lot to mentally be in the room that entire week and, and, and just to come down from it and the nerves and whatnot. Like it's, it takes a lot.

Like imagine competing at the, playing at the Superbowl for an entire week. That's literally what it was. So I'm going to take this time to enjoy it. Enjoy it with my mom because she was out there and and and i feel like this one was like really big for her i feel like i'm still trying to conceptualize what happened this entire week so i mean i'm gonna do that see my friends see my family and just just really just you know enjoy this because i'm olympic champ and you know a lot of people worked their entire lives for this and I was able to achieve

that not once but twice this week. I'm going to live it up and I'm going to enjoy it. You didn't know this but Ryan was a quarterback. Ryan, what made you give up quarterbacking? I played wide out, man. I was a wide receiver. My dad said

the wrong thing okay i played wide receiver and free safety in high school okay yeah yeah yeah i was uh so why why'd you give up football and went to the track because i'm from new york and people out of new york don't get good scholarships to go to big d1 schools okay yeah yeah so i was like i ran track and it was like you know like i wasn't really getting, we weren't getting good recruits or recruiters coming out to my high school. Cause we were small high school in Westchester County in, in, in New York. So, you know, we had one or two guys like, you know, go to big universities, but it wasn't

like we were going to like LSU or, or USC or a Clemson, you know what I mean? So, um, it was just one of those things where, you know, that was my Avenue out, you know? And, uh, and I was really good at track my freshman year. So I just stuck with it. So you originally went to UCLA, then transferred to UCLA for two years. I thought about walking on, to be honest with you, but they were like, yeah, you gotta give up your track scholarship because of title nine. There's no way in hell.

But yeah, a part of me wish I played in college, to be honest with you. I'm not going to pull a Tyreek and say I'm faster than Noah or I can go and catch him. How do you know I'm going to ask you that? How do you know I'm going to ask you that?

Do you believe Tyreek? I'm going to say that how you know i'm gonna ask you that do you believe i'm gonna say on the show i'm tired of the no allow slander man that's my talk to us talk to us about it i'm tired of the slander i'm not saying like i can go out and do what you guys do and catch a ball across the middle i know how hard it is i know how hard it is to read plays and and and memorize stuff and and go out there and put your body at risk every day. But Tyreek, you're not beating Noah in 100, man. There's just no way in hell. You probably won't even beat the top collegiate guys, man. He too heavy. He too heavy, right?

I mean, if he long, well, not now. But if he were to drop down, he's 195. If he got down to one like 170... Fred is about 195, 200 pounds. But Fred, how tall is Fred? Fred's like, what, 6'1"? 6'2"? Yeah. Tyreek, 5'9".

At 195. You think he's really 195? Yes, he's solid as F. Yeah. Okay. He rocked up. Little right. So you think, let me ask

you a question. Who do you think could make it on the football team? Could Noah play football? Could Fred play football for the longest? I think Fred 100% could play football. Donald Scott, triple jumper could play football. He played at Michigan State. Look him up um who

else could play football if i if i we got a lot of good athletes on the team man like like i think vernon turner could play football as well too another high jumper uh javon like we we got some athletes we got some actual i can get you i can get you i can get you a wide receiver try, Ry, if you want it. Hey, man, listen. No, no, you're not going to mess them legs up. No. I'll do it. I'm telling you. No, no.

I'm on the go route. I'm on the go route, man. That's all I need. That go. I'm out here like this. No, you got to tell us that world record. I mean, Ry, how close are you to get the world record for 45 94 everything's gonna have to be perfect yeah everything has to be perfect you would have

the right condition right track right people in the race i feel like i'm at a fitness level to do it right now uh because when we ran uh the world record in toky year. I split 43.5 on the relay. And I just split 43.1. So the fitness is there. I think it just comes down to, like I said, getting that rhythm in. I think for me, it was more so about getting the medal than it was running at time. Okay. And I think now, because now I got the elusive color, I can now freely go about and just, you know, just go out and just let it loose and see what happens.

So now I can kind of shift my focus a little bit and try to go after that. But that's a conversation for next year. Next year is going to be a long year and a long season. So we'll see. So you're done. Let me ask you a question. When will you resume training? You say you're done, your track season is over. You're going to take a month off. You take

two months off. You wait to the top of the year. What does Rod do in the meantime? You don't do indoors, do you? No, I don't do indoors. I'm going to take about a month off. I cycle. I started cycling last year. Okay, that's dope. I'm going to take a month, about a month off. I cycle. I started cycling last year. Okay.

That's dope. That's dope. I'm going to do that here and there. Met a great group of people out here in LA. Cycling? You mean motorcycling or road biking? No, no, no. Like bike. Okay.

Like an actual bicycle. Road bike. So I'm going to do that. And I won't start practice until November, around November 5th, because the season goes to late September next year. Okay. Yeah. Tokyo, World Championship. World Championship, yeah, bro.

If we had Quincy, we'd talk to Quincy and now you get you, Quincy, Vern, Deadman. Y'all gotta go 253. And it'll be another 30 years before somebody get it. Yeah. I believe we could do it. I mean,

like, like I told Quincy before I left, I was like, bro, like you, you Olympic champ dog, like take care of you, take care of your body,

make sure you're healthy. Cause like, this is like that. What he did was crazy. Yeah. Crazy. I never seen, like he really got that dog in him.

Like, he does. When you're close to a son, I need you to dig deep. that crazy. I never seen him. He really got that dog in him. He does. I need you to dig deep. He in the dictionary. They got a picture of Quincy Hall. He's going to do it. We could do it. We stay healthy next year and keep this momentum going. It was just

great energy in the team. I can tell it was great it was great i think but like across the board like different sports i mean we were cheering each other on it was it was the team energy too was bro it was infectious down in that camp so it was i mean you look at cole hawker what he did in the 1500 meters. You look at Grant Fisher, what he did in the five and the 10K. I lost my voice that night.

I lost my voice that night cheering for that boy, man. So man, it was, it was one of the best experience of my entire life. It was the best track meet in my entire life. So, right,

man. Thanks for joining us. Hey guys, do us a favor. Make sure you go follow ryan on ig at king ben rock rock congratulations man you know i'm proud of your nephew man good luck enjoy your time off the olympic champ rob benjamin man thanks for joining us uh that payment's on the way hey thank you thank you. Thank you, brother. I'm a man of his word.

Man of his word, huh? I said don't spit it all in one place. No, no, no. I'm going to follow in the wise footsteps of Grant Holloway and I'm going to donate some of it to a good cause

that I'm passionate about. So, yeah. Again, congratulations, man. So yeah. Hey, again, congratulations, man. Thanks for stopping by nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate it.

I know our subscribers, our watchers, our viewers, our listener, they were supporting you all the way. So thanks for coming on, sharing some insight, what was going on in your head,

the atmosphere, the ambiance of the Olympics. Again, congratulations. Enjoy your time off and we'll see you down the road. Thank you. And shout out them editors, man. Y'all got it right this time. We got it right this time?

Hold on. The dude got Bailey on his bib. How the hell you confused Bailey and Benjamin? And I'm not light-skinned either. Oh, hell no. Oh, no. But you got him a reprieve.

Come on, bro. Y'all can't have a gap that big. Look at that. There you go right there. Again, congratulations, man. Enjoy your time off, man. Thank you. Olympic gold medalist in the 400-meter hurdles, Rod Benjamin.

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