Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Too little too late for Cowboys, Eagles crumbling, Myles Garrett future

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Mike McCarthy, Cooper Rush and the Dallas Cowboys taking down Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday Night Football, despite learning they were out of the playoff race before the game. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss rookie QB Jayden Daniels throwing 5 TDs for the Washington Commanders in win vs. the Philadelphia Eagles, Cleveland Browns’ Myles Garrett gets his 100th sack before the age of 29 and the guys believe the Browns need to do the right thing and let Garrett go to a contender and much more!03:13 - Show Start03:40 - Intro06:30 - Cowboys v Bucs15:50 - Commanders v Eagles28:00 - Bengals v Browns41:25 - Bills v Patriots53:18 - Lions v Bears1:01:00 - Vikings v Seahawks(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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pinned on our social pages and in all of our social bios. as i mentioned at the top the cowboys excuse me defeated the bucks 26 to 24 cowboys sealed the victory um great play by bland took the ball right out of the guy's hand and he's going to the dirt it wasn't good enough for him to just make the tackle he wanted to make sure he get the ball and end the game at that very moment. And that's exactly what he did. But in the process of doing that, not only did they defeat the Bucs, the Bucs now

are trail of the Atlanta Falcons. The Falcons are now in first place in the NFC South, which they are the fourth seed and Tampa slides all the way down to the eighth seed. When you say eighth seed is not bad, Shannon. Well, considering they only take seven teams, it's very bad. Now, we'll see Sunday

night, Ocho, the Commanders and the Falcons play. Two rookies gonna start. Pennix, obviously for the Falcons. Jay Daniels, who definitely secured the rookie of the year, offensive rookie of the year with that performance today. I think he had done enough

over the last couple of games to kind of distance himself from Bo Nix, but he left no doubt. And what he did today, the five touchdown performance, coming from behind and doing it, he wins that award. But Ocho, when you look at the Cowboys, give them credit. They ain't got nothing to play for. They knew going

into this game, after the commanders had done what they had done, their blowout hopes were done. And they still come out here and give you that type of effort, pressured Baker Mayfield the entire night. They picked him off, sacked him four times, pressured him numerous times, and they got the big script

fumble at the end of the game to close it out. What did you like about what you saw from the Cowboys? Say, listen, I like the fact that they didn't give up. I like the fact that they didn't give up. I like the fact that they didn't give up. I saw it on both sides of the ball in all three phases of the game. I don't, I wonder if tonight's performance

is enough to save Mike McCarthy's job. That's, that's a question that I have now based on what I saw from them tonight. If you can play the way you played tonight with all the injuries that you have, what's going to happen

if you have a team that's healthy and you can play like you did tonight with nothing on the line as far as playoff implications are concerned. That's the first thing that came to mind. Why are you playing this hard tonight? Where was this? Where was this fight? Where was this type of effort?

Where was this type of consistency on both sides of the ball during the regular season? When Dak was a quarterback, I mean, what are we doing? Why did we decide to play like this? You know? I guarantee you this, Unc. I guarantee you this.

If there were people that were betting on the game, I guarantee they had all their money on goddamn Tampa to win. Probably so. Yeah. I'm like, and I don't know what it is about games like this and playing teams that have nothing to lose

and you're playing for a playoff spot. For some reason, teams like the Cowboys always seem to ruin the team's chances to maybe get in a better spot and sometimes even knock a team out the playoffs. Well, hell, if we ain't going, you ain't going either. Yeah, misery loves company. But here's the thing, Ocho, this is what you know.

At the end of the year, people start playing for jobs because now I need to see, okay, who's giving up and who's still fighting. Because in the middle of the season, okay, Ocho, we played, we still got a chance. But now this is when coaches, this is when general managers, this is when front office, this tells you a lot about your players. When you have absolutely positively nothing to play for

and you still summons up the. When you have absolutely, positively nothing to play for, and you still summons up the energy because you're still getting a check, who are you? Have you cashed it in? And tonight, clearly by the game, by what you saw, you see the Cowboys are still scrapping. They're still clawing. They're still trying to do everything they possibly can,

although they know their season is over. Basically, they've got two more games. And then after those two games, they get those empty bags. They clean out their lockers. You give all your info. Hey, bro, what you got going on? Hit me up if you come to Houston or if you come to Atlanta, if you come to wherever. Hey, man, let's get a trip.

Let's hit the Vegas. You get all the information. You do your little – you say your goodbyes and you move on. You got your X and B. Yeah, that's Monday. You go by and you got your ex. You got, yeah, that's, that's absolutely, that's Monday.

You go by and talk to your position coach. You talk to the head coach and then, um, nobody had my flight scheduled at one o'clock. Cause I was getting over there early. What time you coming in? First day, first day.

I'm, I'm first. I'm first. Hey, you better have it. You better have more tenure to me because I'm bumping everybody. Hey, I'm going to see my position coach first, and I'm going to see, hey, bro, back up. I'm going to see Mike.

Right. You're getting up out of there, huh? Quick. Absolutely. Ain't nothing to stick around for what? Because the way I did it, I didn't go home. So I didn't go back. So the only time I went back to Denver was for minicamps. Okay.

And I never went home during the season. So you're there the whole time. I'm there the whole time. So I'm ready to get home. Okay. When I leave to go back to Denver, I'm ready to get back to Denver. Right. I'm out of there.

Yeah. Hey, y'all know how to get in touch with me. Ain't no back and forth. Nah. Ain't no back and forth. I'm there. I'm where I'm supposed to be. I was very impressed with the Cowboys. It's not like Tampa played bad. Baker threw for 304 yards.

They ran the ball for 134 yards, but the Cowboys pressure was relentless tonight. That D-line did a great job. Zim did a great job of disguising, bringing extra pressure. They pressured them a lot more than I probably thought they could. But give the Cowboys credit. Like you said, Ojo, for a team that didn't have anything to play for,

they knew their season was basically over. There's no playoff potential. And to come out and give this kind of effort, and as you said, Ojo, for a team that didn't have anything to play for, they knew their season was basically over. There's no playoff potential. And to come out and give this kind of effort, and as you said, hell, if y'all had gave this effort, had you been playing like this on defense the entire season, who knows what your season could have been. And we don't want to blame it on injuries because guess what? You're more banged up now than you was in the beginning. In the beginning, yeah.

And you didn't give this effort. You didn't give this effort against the Ravens. You didn't give this effort against the Saints. You didn't give this effort against the Eagles. There are a lot. And you didn't give this effort. You didn't give this effort against the Ravens. You didn't give this effort against the Saints. You didn't give this effort against the Eagles. There are a lot of teams you didn't give this effort against,

and that's why you're taking your ass home instead of getting ready to try to make a playoff, excuse me, to make a deep playoff push. Right. That's why you're not.

Yeah. But Cooper Rush, 26-35, 292, one touchdown. He was only sacked once. They didn't run the ball well at all, Lucho. They only had 20 carries for 31 yards. That's the funny thing. The fact that they couldn't run the ball, which made them one-dimensional, and then Cooper Rush, when it came to passing, he was still good.

Yes. He was still good. I was surprised that they couldn't generate more pressure than what they got. Yeah. I was very, very, very, very surprised. Tampa couldn't generate more pressure than what they got.

And I thought because Tampa was running the ball well, but the Cowboys like, hey, they're pinning their ears back. Give Baker credit because he threw the ball well under some very adverse circumstances.

The last play to end of the game, he supposed to have been sacked. He scratched and clawed and got his hands up and shoveled it to I think it was White. Was that White that ended up having the ball taken from him? But give the Cowboys credit. Tonight is their night.

They played well. They won 26-24. And they got something. They got a tough matchup next week, if I'm not mistaken. They got the Eagles. The Eagles are going to be upset. They let one slip away, have an opportunity to get home field or still stay in the running for

home field uh that's no longer possible i don't think um i don't see i don't see detroit losing the losing out they got minnesota one of these games minnesota still has an outside chance of getting home field i think they got minnesota the last game if i'm not mistaken okay and but it's in Detroit? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Don't Detroit have the Packers? I think Detroit has the Packers. They got the Packers and Minnesota to close out the season.

Ooh. So, that's going to be... Talk about fireworks. Oh, no. Detroit goes to San Fran and then they get the Vikings at home.

The Vikings have the Packers and the Lions. They play the Packers. They got the Packers next week, Minnesota does. And then they close out the season in Detroit. Detroit goes on the road to San Fran

and then they close out the season against Minnesota at home. That's going to be tough. I think when the NFL went to this alignment, Ocho, where the final game of the season is all division, this is what they hope for.

Because people started, Ocho, people started to send people a week, two weeks, a week, and no, a week. No. Hold on. Wait a minute. You can't sit down. This ain't no NBA. Ain't no load managing here.

We want something. We want it to mean something. I don't think – because this could very well be home field advantage in a lot of situations. Right. Determining, decided in the last week of the season. So the NFL is getting exactly what they wanted and what they had hoped to happen. I can't wait till next week.

Oh, Joe, Jalen Hurts. Wow. 36-33, game-winning drive. Jalen Hurts on a scramble. Got hurt, got ruled, got knocked out of the game with a concussion in the first quarter. Jalen Daniels, Jaden Daniels, was sensational. Five touchdown passes. Today marked the first quarter. Jalen Daniels. Jaden Daniels was sensational.

Five touchdown passes. Today marked the first time that Washington has won a game with five-plus giveaways since week 17 of the 2002 season versus Dallas. Let that sink in. They won a game. Remember, Detroit had a game like that this season, Ocho. Yeah.

Golfed through five picks, and they still won the game. Yeah. That happened today. This is the first time that Washington has won a game with five-plus turnovers and 30-plus points allowed in the Super Bowl era. Right. They had no business winning this game

with the exception of their sensational rookie. He was sensational. You got to get a little help. A couple of blown coverages, Ocho and then because they left the key is wide open on the sideline i don't know what they did with that and then um jayden daniels threaded the needle uh to a crowder for the game-winning touchdown but i love the way jayden daniel the poison which he showed oh joe getting out of harm's way, scrambling. Jayden was 24-39,

258, five touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked three times. They ran the ball 24-113. Daniels, nine carries, 81 yards. Zaccheaus had five for 70 and two touchdowns. Terry McLaurin had five for 61 touchdowns.

Jay Crowder, 215, two touchdowns. That was sensational. Jay Crowder, 215, two touchdowns. That was sensational. Saquon, I thought Saquon was like, man, I thought Saquon was going to go for like 250. Yeah, listen, the way he ran the ball in the first quarter, let's say the first half, the way he ran the ball in the first half, I'm like, well, hey, he might, I say 300.

I say he might go 300. But, you know, I don't know what happened. Obviously, the injury to Jalen Hurts in the first quarter, in the first half, I thought they would have leaned more on Saquon as far as the running concerned. But that didn't happen. I knew the playbook would change. The play that they're running would change.

And they didn't get enough of a lead once kenny pickett had to come in that quarterback because you know once that once the backup comes in you know that the playbook it shrinks they play the playbook you can't run the same plays you run with jayler kurtz but kenny pickett so things do change and they didn't have enough lead to be able to win this game and once that momentum shifted in favor of the commanders with j Jaden got that goddamn 4th and 11th, I knew it was going to be a long day. Well, we saw this before. It was going to be a long day.

Ocho, what happened first game of the season? Saquon dropped a pass that would have given him a first down, run the clock out. You remember that? Then we got Devontae Smith. He got a touchdown. Instead of kicking the field goal, boom. But they drop a lot of kicking the field goal, boom.

But they drop a lot of passes. My boy, AJ, I love AJ Brown, but AJ Brown drops a lot of passes, though, Joe. He does. He got to focus. And I know a lot of times, though, Joe, you and I have both been there. When you feel you're not going to get the targets that you need, you're trying to get to the house on every throw. Everything.

And in order to do that, sometimes you got to do this you got to catch the ball already with your eye and the hill's already open looking to get a feel and i think i think that's what's happening with uh with aj he's doing a lot of that because he's like man i ain't gonna get but so many i mean think about ojo he had 15 targets he called eight of them yeah that ain't that ain't a good ratio. Actually, you know what? It's funny. You think about the drops with A.J. Brown. Devontae Smith had I think could have sealed the game.

It would have. Think about how many points it would have put him up. Now you got to score, get the ball back, and score again because now that they get the touchdown, that puts them up two scores. Or you're going to run the timeout. Mm-hmm.

Go, yeah. That was it. That was it. I'm going to say that ball, Devontae Smith, when he dropped that over the middle, I think that play in general, that catch would have sealed the game. They could have run the clock out from that point, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure how much time was on the clock. But those costly drops at important times in the game,

especially a game like that when your starting quarterback is out, you got to make those plays. You have to make those plays. Bro, I don't know what's happened to Marshawn Lattimore. Bro, he literally got Philly right down the field. He got like three, four holding calls on one possession, and they could have called him again in the end zone. And he's talking about, bro, you

holding the man. You got the man around the waist. You got the man armed. And you looking at the official like, what? I'm like, do you not realize you're like literally holding this man? I mean, Ocho, I'm talking about literally. Yeah.

You know, I do think in his case, you have to think how much time he's had, how much time Marshawn has been out. Obviously, the trade going from the Saints to the commanders and then coming on. Yeah, he's coming off the injury. So until he can get his legs back underneath him, I think, you know, you want to hold a little bit, you're a little handsy. You're not using not playing with little handsy you're not using not playing with the technique you're not using your eyes you're not trusting your feet you know and stuff like that so you do you tend to hold you tend to grab to make sure you're in position to be able to make those plays and they were costly right and see the thing is what what uh what uh

you have to understand with with aj he's a big physical receiver and he's not twitching right he's not twitching he's not a guy that's looking to yeah yeah he's looking he's a big physical receiver and he's not twitching right he's not twitching he's not a guy that's looking to yeah yeah he's looking he's looking to play through you he's trying to play through contact so you have to be physical with him you can't be like a a typical d like a typical db with a regular receiver small body receiver you know and play it because he's gonna play through contact and the last thing you want to do is catch the ball and face you up. Because if he can catch the ball and face you up at his size, he's going to run through most DBs.

And so Latimer got a little handsy with him. But I was like, bro, because at first I was like, this has got to be a rookie. Ain't no way there's no veteran DB getting all these calls. And then I was like, damn, that's Marshawn Latimer. And then at Donovan like bro he just coming back

from injury so he's not where he needs to be he's not seeing things his body his body is not you know not his footwork his technique is not what it needs to be but they got away with one today and the reason why Saquon didn't have the second

half is because guess what there's no threat well Kenny Pickett is not going to run the ball what you call him And the reason why Saquon didn't have the second half is because guess what? There's no threat. Well, Kenny Pickett is not going to run the ball. What you call him? Jalen Hurst is a threat to run the football. So now we don't believe Kenny Pickett can beat us throwing the football. So you know what we're going to do? Defensively, you can call it a completely different game.

Absolutely. You can call it a completely different game. Oh, you know what? Man, let me stack this box. Yes. Let me stack this box. This is what we're going to do. You think you're going to run it today?

Uh-uh. No. I don't believe Kenny Pickett can throw the Eagles to a victory, but I know Saquon can run them to a victory. So, hey, let's tighten this thing down on Saquon. No more big plays. Hey, let him get his one-twos like that. We can live with that, but we can't let him hit his head on the goal post. We do not believe

Kenny Pickett can beat us throwing the football. And he couldn't. But that was a big... I mean, they're not... Listen, it's a lot easier, Ocho, for the backup to come into the game when they're not expecting it. You don't practice for the backup.

You practice for Jalen Hurts. So your defense is kind of tailored to what Hurts can do. Hurts can beat us. Give DQ credit, Dan Quinn, who's the head coach, who's also the DC. Give him like, but it's a lot easier to call for Kenny Picker. He ain't going nowhere. Right. He ain't going nowhere.

Where Jalen Hurts, we got to keep him in the pocket. We can't run past him because he'll jump out the window and he'll run and take off from us. Kenny Picker ain't going nowhere. Even if we run past him, we'll chase his ass down. Yeah. So how long, how long how long you think it wanted one of the the funny things about concussion protocol it seemed like it varied depending on who the players or the significance of the injury based on you know what they feel as far as when you have to take those concussions you'll be back

next week just just like that yeah i mean if he's coming back that fast, I mean, there's no reason why, I mean, I would have thought he would have been able to come back into this game, but they, they, they do take it a little, a little bit,

a little bit more of a precaution, right? Because now you got to go in the tent and now they can call down. They got neurologists and neurologists and stuff upstairs. Oh, Joe, they can signal down and say, like,

he look a little wobbly. Let's get him off the field for a play. Let's get him into the tent. Let's get him, you know, get him evaluated and see. But you can tell, because he got hit in the side. See, that was the problem that he had. He going down his head, and then the guy hit him in the side of his head.

Yeah, he was wobbly now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was. Absolutely. He was wobbly. Give them credit. The Eagles lose to the Washington Commanders. The Commanders, 10-5. With that win, the Cowboys and the 49ers were eliminated from the playoffs. The Eagles fall to 12-3.

Still, they've already won the— No, hell no, they still haven't. Washington can still catch them because if they lose out and Washington win out, can Washington catch him because if they lose out and Washington win out, can Washington catch him? Yes. No. What if they both 12 and 5?

Because I don't think the Eagles hadn't won the division, have they? Yeah, so that means Washington can catch him. Eagles hadn't won the division, have they? Yeah, so they're ready to decay. So that means Washington can catch it. Kansas City's won the division. That means nobody in the division can catch them. Right. Buffalo's won the division.

That means nobody in the division can catch them. But I think they would have to win. Washington would have to win out. And the Eagles would have to lose out. Yes, Washington has at home against the Falcons, on the road against the Cowboys. The Eagles have the Cowboys this week. And who do they close with? Giants.

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Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Ocho, your Bengals defeated the Browns 24-6. Jamar Chase passed 1,500 yards, breaks his own franchise receiving yardage record.

I told you who he was. I told you. Garrett, Myles Garrett, got his 100th sack before turning 29 years of age. He tied the great Bruce Smith as the fourth fastest to get 100 sacks. Right. The Bengals' next play at home on Saturday,

if I'm not mistaken against the broncos correct and we against who the broncos and guess who's gonna win that game and i'm gonna be there matter of fact i'm going to the game i hope it's cold i hope it's cold because y'all don't do well in the cold you do realize like deborah gets cold in deborah right it get cold in cincinnati too just as cold yeah yeah yeah you. We used to the cold. Joe Burrow, 23 of 30, 252, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. He won sacks four times. They ran the ball 22 times for 116 yards.

Chase Brown, 18 carries, 91 yards. But it was Jamar Chase, 6 for 97 on the touchdown. He's going to win the Triple Crown. Nobody even close to him in touchdowns, catches, or yards, so he's going to get that. He had 8 for 58, one touchdown. How do you say that name?

Louvias? Just say Yoshi. Yoshi had 3 for 53 and a touchdown on joe cleveland yeah miles garrett looking to get up out of there yeah oh yeah i mean he's looking to get up out of there most times normally with a like that, a player of his caliber that doesn't cause any problems, he comes to play week in and week out regardless of what's going on. You know what you're going to get out of him. You understand that as a team, as an ownership, GM, you understand that you're in a rebuilding stage. You're going to have to find a quarterback, one that you can build with.

You're in a rebuilding stage. As far as Myle Garrett is concerned, if you care about the individual as a player, allowing not, how do I say it, not keeping him imprisoned while you're in a rebuilding stage,

do right by the individual because he's always done right by you. Now, most times when it comes to business, they don't think like that, but you would think in this case, in this scenario, after what he's already said and what he's done for you and what he's given that organization in that city, you give him an opportunity to go play for a contender. Go ahead. I would think and hope they would do the right thing until they rectify their situation at the quarterback position

i mean it's gonna take a king's ransom to get him you're talking about a guy that's 29 years of age uh premier doesn't miss time he gives it to you every game he's great against the rusher obviously he's a premier pass rusher which that's what everybody's looking for he can play plays the run he's durable uh he doesn't give you any problems on the field or off the field. When you go to bed at night, you don't worry having to worry about getting a call saying, Hey, Miles Garrett is in trouble. You don't worry about that. He's one of those guys.

You rest real easy knowing that he's going to be professional both on and off the field at all times. And you can respect that. And you appreciate that. But it's probably going to take two first rounders uh maybe even a player a quality player that's on your roster and some others maybe a second or a third he's not coming cheap nor should he because what if you're giving up that level of player ocho i need to be able to replace it with draft picks now there is no guarantee you're ever going to get a player to replace to feel to be what he was but I got I'm I'm more the problem is with Cleveland they're more than Miles Garrett away so I would come out better Ocho you know

what I'm saying getting draft picks and a potential player to try to and build from there if I was just a Miles Garrett away i'm like no i'm gonna keep it and if i just get one player but there are a lot of players away oh joe especially offensively yeah i think i think honestly defensively i think they're good i think they're sound if they can have some adequate consistent quarterback play that can you know move their ass up and down they goddamn field and be able to facilitate the ball that we've seen from them in spurts when certain quarterbacks have been in there, I think they'll be fine. But, I mean, just right now, it's not what it is.

And I would hope they do right by Myles Garrett in giving him the opportunity to go and play for a contender. So we'll see. And Cleveland played him tough for as long as they possibly could, Ocho. It's just that they're undermanned at the quarterback position. They ran the ball 24 times for a buck 46. So you're getting, what, five, six, you're getting basically six yards to carry, Ocho.

You can't complain about that. Ford gave you 11 for 92. Your quarterback has great legs. He's a mobile quarterback. Not that accurate. But, you know, they got a touchdown, got a callback with holding, got another big first down, got that callback for holding. They're, you know,

they're okay, but they're a ways away offensively, Ocho. They're a ways away. They need a couple of wide receipts. I mean, Judy is good, but, I mean, Judy's like, bro, even he's thinking like, man, if I just had a decent quarterback, y'all see what I can do if y'all got a quarterback to get me to rock. Y'all saw that the last three weeks.

But he got three targets for 20 yards. Three targets, two catches, 20 yards. What are you supposed to do with that? Absolutely nothing. But this is a game like this. If I were Judy, you know, when I, I think about some of the times when I had Gus Farratt, you know, when I had Scott Mitchell, when I had John Kidna and understanding that,

you know what the offense of the, the, the offensive play caller was going to be a little different. You know, the ball coming to me was going to be a little different. So what I would do, what I would do is, is always before I leave or break the huddle, boom. I call it mind-fucking the quarterback. He already has enough to worry about. You don't want to bother the quarterback. He has to come

to the line. He has to go through his read. He has to go through his progression, his pre-snap stuff. So always when the play is called, right before I leave the huddle, I tap his hip. All right, now. i'm here and just just that just to let him know if he wants to go with the ball i don't care what i don't care what the play call is hey i don't care what the play call is and i ain't listen and then oh you know how i

am i know you've seen the clip before i come out the huddle and I line up and I see coverage and this man, whether it's off or whether he's on, the first thing I do, you can hit an entire stadium. Just alert the quarterback. Yee-hee! All right. Now, when you hear that sound, you know what time it is. Let's take a quick peek now. You ain't got to do much to take a quick

peek. Now, if I hit you with that yee-hee, I got you. 99.9% of the yeah, I got you. 99.9% of the time, I got you. Like life insurance. I tell Carson all the time that you ain't got to do that. You ain't got to go through all that bullshit. Now, I

got you. Understand that. Yeah. But, Ocho, you saw this again. Joe got sacked and the ball came out. Don't do that. Don't do that now. Don't do that. Don't do that, you saw this again. Joe got sacked and the ball came out. Don't do that, Ocho. Don't do that, man. Don't do that.

Don't do that. I'm just saying. I hear you, but don't do that. Come on, now. I understand. In Kansas City, what happened, Ocho? You had a seven-point lead. What happened?

Yeah, the ball came out. Okay, Pittsburgh. Baltimore. You see what's happening here, and see, the problem with fans don't understand is what you do understand. Yeah, you had a 14-point lead. But what happens when you don't have that lead? You had that lead against Baltimore.

You had a 10-point lead, and then what happened? You threw a pick. You fumbled. Boom. Now, you had a seven-point lead against Kansas City. Script sack. Scoop and score. Pittsburgh, you threw two picks, well, threw two picks and you fumbled it.

Yeah. That's what gets you beat. You play in Cleveland. You're supposed to molly walk Cleveland. That offense. Don't you think they do nothing? Well, yeah. Listen, it's still Cleveland.

The defense ain't bad now. But the offense is worse. Yeah, the offense is worse. The defense is somewhat good. Remember, this is a division game. This is a division game. And for some reason, it's always close. Hell, look how the Bills have been playing all season.

And look how they struggled against the Patriots today. So it's something about those games. Steelers, Ravens, always close. It's never really a blowout most of the time. So, I mean, listen. The Browns had their hands full. Listen, they had to play against the greatest banger receiver of all time. The greatest player of all time.

The first receiver to ever have 1,500 yards in the season. 15 touchdowns. Wait, 16 now. They ain't never seen nothing like that. Young Bull, he from New Orleans. He putting in the work. Boy, hey, Mike Brown kicking his own self in the ass. I don't know why they played with him.

I don't know. Anytime you have a receiver that comes out after the draft, after getting drafted, and the first thing he says is, before he say anything else, I'm breaking every motherfucker record y'all got. That's it. Well, he didn't curse, but I'm going to curse for him.

Just add a little seasoning to it huh you coming in with that with that type of that type of moxie that's what that's that's what that's what that's what the white folks call they call it moxie you know i call it i call it confidence you know and people that don't like the bangles or like jamar they're gonna call it arrogance no you know believing in yourself understanding your skill set knowing the work that you put in to get to this point to know what what you're going to do when I get to where I'm going. Come on, man. We've been doing this, man. Ask Papa Chase. Papa Chase, I know y'all watching. They watching, too. I know they watching.

Man, look, it's one thing to like, OK, I went to the Pro Bowl. OK, one thing that I went, I'm an all pro, I'm first team all pro. He's going to be a, I went to the pro bowl. Okay. One thing that I went, uh, uh, I'm an all pro. I'm first team. I'll probably, he's going to be a unanimous first team. I'll approach selection. He'll be one of the few guys that make a first team. I'll approach selection.

Um, it's one thing. Okay. I led the league in receiving or I led the league in yardage or I led the league in touchdown, bro. He got it all. He got sweepstakes.

Oh yeah. It's almost like, Oh Joe, he won the powerball mega millions cash cash three fantasy five cash whoa whoa whoa matter of fact oh my goodness now did you just say that everybody in the chat including you uh like listen i think the powerball or mega millions a lot of whatever it is right now is that what 920 some 99 what yeah yeah make sure you go play that. Chat. Everybody in the chat, please go play Powerball. Ocho, you got to go.

Ocho, you got to play that. You got to be in some little rural area. Right. You think so? They ain't going to let you win in the Miami Guards, okay? You don't think so? Hell nah.

I think, listen, I think it's about guessing the numbers. It's about getting the numbers right. You can go watch YouTube. You can go watch YouTube and watch some of the videos on how to make your chances greater

by using certain numbers and certain strategies and certain methods. So I'm going to do it. And when I win, when I win, I'm telling you, I'm taking all of us. Nightcap, we all going to move in the same community. No, we're not. I'm winning. I'm moving. I'm getting me a little condo in Houston.

I'm winning a little something. I'm getting a little condo in Houston. There we go. There we go. Ain't nobody going to know I got a condo in Houston, though. Nobody but me and a real estate agent. That's all the people that's going to know

I got a condo in Houston. I'm going to know. I'm going to. No, no, you ain't going. No, no, no, no. You draw too much attention. No. Hell no.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't even go out. I don't draw no attention. You do. And you ain't going. Nah, nah, nah, nah. You draw too much attention. No, hell nah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't even go out. I don't draw no attention. You do. And you want to talk. Hey, yeah, let's take a picture. Get in here. Let's get a picture.

No, hell nah. No. Yeah, yeah, hug it up. Hug it up. Hug it up. Hug it up. But Chase, man, congratulations, bro. You have finished this thing off strong.

Go ahead and get this triple crown. One of the great seasons. He's got 108 catches. He's over 1,500 yards. He's got 16 touchdowns. There's a chance he could get to 130 catches. Get to 130, 1,700 yards. Maybe 18, 19

touchdowns. Maybe even a magic number 20. Yeah. Which would be It's still two games left, right? Yeah, man. He's going to crush that. He's still two games left, right? Two games left. Yeah, man. He's going to crush that. He's definitely going to crush that.

Can I tell y'all something? Oh, they got... I think they closed out with Pittsburgh. Don't they got... I think y'all got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh. Okay, that's going to be a good one. Y'all got the Broncos and Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh. And I just want to say one thing. The numbers Chase is putting up,

the season he's had, the consistency that he's had since he's entered the league, week in and week out, you know, the ups and downs, even when things aren't going well. I just want everybody to know from a nutritional standpoint that Jamar Chase eats McDonald's. I just want to throw that out there. I don't know why that was on my heart.

It was heavy on my heart just to let you guys know. It was heavy on my heart to let you know as well, Unc, what he's been able to do on that diet. And it's not what you eat. It's not what you eat. It's all skill set. Either you got it or you don't. But anyway, we can go ahead with the show.

The Bills defeated the Patriots by a lot closer score than people would have thought 24 to 21 the bills got up to got a shaky win off a team that should have dominated josh y'all has been playing with a broken left hand all season wonder how that got leaked all of a sudden he broke it in week one hold on he broke it in week one and here we are week 15 anyway uh but guess what it's been reported that Gerard Mayo's job security is reportedly safe unless there's a total collapse at the end of the season. Ocho, you watch this game.

What didn't you like about what you saw from Buffalo? And then we'll get into the Patriots. We had some drops. And, you know, I'm not even going to say what I didn't like from Buffalo because I know what it's like playing against a divisional opponent. I know what it's like. I just saw Buffalo put up 40 in back-to-back weeks against two teams that were really, really good.

Yeah, Rams and the Lions. But, again, the Rams and the Lions, but these are teams that you don't face often. These are teams that don't know your tendencies. They don't know the things you like to do. They're really not familiar with you like that. So I expect it. Matter of fact, I think I said it too, Unc.

I think I said it when we talked a little bit. You did yesterday. Yeah, about them having to play the Patriots. I say, Unc, it's going to be close because anytime you play a divisional opponent, I don't know what it is. Even though the Patri pages have played bad you know well they've had some they have some bright spots for drake may drake may has had

some moments where he looked very good and very promising but i said i said you know the game is gonna look like this and lo and behold exactly like i said it would look that's exactly how it looked where drake may and those pages almost won this game they almost won this game. They almost won this game. So what I saw today was expected because it's a divisional opponent and both teams are so familiar with each other and what they like to do. They did a better job of taking care of the football. They would have won. Drake May threw a hard interception in the end zone. They took points off the board.

They had four fumbles. They lost two of those. And you can't have, when you're playing on the road and you're playing a team that's better than you are. Everything damn near has to go. Perfect. Perfect. Um, and it was going, it's going really well, but those turnovers, you can't turn the ball

and you cannot, you cannot turn the ball over in the end zone. That's a, that's an absolute no, nono because you take points off the board. Josh Allen, and remember, I was on first take, and I said, no, MVP is not over. It is not over. And that's why I always advise people, and I used to vote for a decade. I had a vote.

I voted for the MVP. I voted for the All-Pro team. I voted for the War, you know, Offensive Player of the Year, Defense, and so forth and so on. And I waited to the very end, and I took it serious. And obviously, you know, being in the studio,

you get an opportunity to watch all the games. I ain't just watching highlights. I'm watching because that's why I felt very comfortable. I took it serious. I'm not just going by, excuse me, guys. I'm not just going by names

because I think the All-Pros team is serious because you're talking about the best players regardless of conference. So your name means nothing. Nothing at all. I'm basing it on play that year. I'm not trying to take away the All-Pro team that you got selected on before. That's not what I'm trying to do. But if I don't feel you deserving of that,

that, that honor this year, I'm not voting for you. It's really that simple. Yeah. But, uh, Lamar,

and I said this, I say, well, y'all got to look at Lamar stats. I mean, the man has 37 touchdowns, four picks, and then you throw in his Russian total.

So he's 40 touchdowns with like six or seven turnovers. You look at his passing numbers. That's what Aaron Rodgers was doing when he was winning MVP. Right. Throwing 40 plus touchdowns with single digit interceptions. Yeah. That's what he's doing. Now, I do think, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,

but hold on, he got a guy that rushed for 1600 yards in his backfield so so what what are we gonna do with that right and so i think i think that you know it it his numbers are his numbers now right now if you if i had a vote i probably would vote for lamar right i i would i would vote for lamar. Right. I would vote for Lamar. Is your vote swayed because of the performance that Josh Allen had? Yeah, just like it was swayed when Lamar lost. Just like it was swayed when he played against Pittsburgh. Remember?

He didn't play well. Right. This week he came back and he played better. And you look at the last couple of weeks, Josh Allen had like 10 touchdowns in two games. can it not but we got to be a fair we got to evaluate it on what we see they got two games left i do believe lamar jackson uh can win and be interesting to see i bet those odds for josh allen winning the mvp ain't what they started today. I bet you that. What are the odds now? Well, he started at minus 900 today, right? I think he started at minus 900.

You know what I don't like? I don't like the fact that when it comes to the MVP award, it's an individual accomplishment. But when it comes to what's necessary to win it as far as the team success as well they take that into account as well because if we were talking about mvp from a statistical standpoint in stats i look at joe burrow and always ask myself well why is he not in the conversation and then everyone says well the team itself is losing so therefore he's not

in the you know he's easy i mean i mean he go i mean losing. So, therefore, he's not in the – you know, he's not in the – I mean, there's a chance. I mean, he doesn't make the playoffs. You're never going to get the MVP on the guy that didn't make the playoffs. Right, right, right. Understandable. Understandable. And that's the thing.

I think Joe has had a phenomenal season. Now, had they had a record similar to Lamar's or they had a record similar to Josh Allen, now we got a whole different discussion. Yes, yes. But, I mean, the guy MVP and the guys, what is they, he's seven and eight, can be really...

I know it's tough. But, again, that's why I just said how the goalposts move when it comes to discussion on a trophy that's based on individual accomplishment and accolades on what you've done individually. Right. So using the team's success as a reason why you can't be in the conversation, it throws me off just a tad bit. Because at the end of the day, what do those stats mean if you're not winning? Because at the end, and this is what I used to argue with my co-host,

my partner on Undisputed. I said, it's still a stat award. You go 15-0, and you got 3,000 yards passing, and another guy goes 10-6, and he's got 5,000 yards passing and 40 touchdowns. And you got 3,000 yards and 20 touchdowns. You're not winning that award. Go back and look. Look at all those years Drew Brees was throwing for 5,000 yards.

How many MVPs did he win? You're right. Yeah, it's a stat award. But I need those stats to equate the wins right so if i'm piling up a bunch of stats ocho and i ain't getting no win because people go like oh bro yeah yeah well hell you behind all you doing is you stat paying right because none of those numbers goes towards wins right like i said y'all don't believe it go back and look at drew breeze and look at me i think he got four or five five 5,000-yard passing season.

But when you lose it, how can I give you an award like that? Because your stats doesn't equate to wins. Lamar's stats is equating to wins. Jared Goff, although he doesn't have an outstanding day today, you look at Josh Allen. His numbers equates to wins. Saquon, His numbers equates to wins. Saquon, his numbers equates to wins. But I think the only thing that's really hurting Lamar is that he got a 16,

almost a 1,700-yard rush in his backfield. Right. Who's averaging five and a half yards a carry. He's got 13, 14 rushing touchdowns. When I think about it, you know, Chad, y'all might not like this. And, Unc, you might not like this. I mean, Joe Burrow hasn't been in the conversation for MVP all season long because of our record. Yes.

Right? Correct. But the last two games, these last two games, after we beat the Broncos on Saturday, I'm telling you right now, I'm letting you know right now, you know, Patrick Sertain Jr., you got to deal with Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins. So at Bo Nix,

ain't nothing. You going to get nixed. That's what's going to happen. We going to go into Pittsburgh the following week. We going to win that game. And then when we make it and we have an opportunity to go into the playoffs, because the football guys happen to bless us, that MVP conversation is going to have to change.

There's a good chance, Ocho. It's going to hurt. Y'all beat the Broncos and then lose the final game of the season. It's going to hurt. That's going to hurt. Oh, that's going to hurt, Ocho, so bad. Because I know you're going to be happy when I tell you. It's going to hurt. That's going to hurt. Oh, that's going to hurt Ocho so bad because I know you're going to be happy when I tell you. Look, I told you. Y'all lose that.

Oh, but that thing will hurt. Like Stardate say, brand new shoes. It is. And that would probably be another moment that I would get emotional on camera and I don't care who laughed. And I don't care if they make me a meme because I still love and bleed and live the game of football.

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the season with 33 with two games to go oh Joe you watched the Lions go on the road in Soldier Field and do what they want to do go out there and have fun go on the road in Soldier Field. Yeah. And do what they want to do.

Go out there and have fun. Take Motown to Chicago. Out there, hit the temptation moves. Celebrate. Throwing the ball all over the place. Jameson Williamson doing what Jameson Williamson does. Amon Ross St. Brown scoring.

I don't know what kind of celebration that was. Yeah, I don't know what kind of celebration that was on the guy. Yeah, y'all know what they're doing. I don't know if they're going to get fined for it. You think so? Hey, that was Jameer Gibbs, right? He was like doing a stripper dance

or something on the floor. I don't know what they were doing. Right now, Minnesota got the dancing thing on lock. Right now, Minnesota, they got the choreography. They got it on lock, Coach O. Listen, I don't know. Listen, excuse me, Chad, for being rude.

Excuse me for being disrespectful. Whoever the young bull is for the Minnesota Vikings that did the celebration where he copied the lady who did the freestyle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. At the Olympics.

At the Olympics. He did the celebration. I don't know. I don't know young bull name't know no young boy name, but that to me is one of the greatest celebrations of all time. And they just hit

the White Chicks a couple of weeks ago. Oh, that was a good one. And then they had the lady of the day. They do it. And they had the linemen and everybody do it.

I said, what's that? Because you know the linemen. They be wanting to get it. Hey, man, let us see. No, y'all about to mess this up. No. If y'all, if you rehearse it and get it right, we'll to get it. Hey, man, let us in. Nah, y'all about to mess this up. No. If y'all, if you rehearse it and get it

right, we'll let you participate. But Minnesota got the dancing thing on lock right now. But I was very impressed with Minnesota. You mean Detroit? Detroit. No, I was saying Minnesota's choreography. But Detroit,

Coach Campbell, it's okay to take a field goal, bro. All these fourths and threes man come on man come on kick the field goal and go up 37-17 it's okay it really is Ocho he trying to run the score up man he don't even see it

Dan is playing balls to the wall he's the definition Of visual representation Of I don't give a fuck I'm going to do it my way Listen I don't know what What's the word they say

Not tendencies Analytics I don't care what analytics say I'm going against it. I like Dan. I know his players got to love him, man. They do. Caleb Williams. Go ahead. What'd you say, Ocho?

My bad. Go ahead. I was saying Caleb Williams was 26-40, 3-34, two touchdowns. He was sacked twice. Ocho, they just got to do a better job. I mean, the first four possessions, two puns, two fs. He was sacked twice. Ocho, they just got to do a better job. I mean, their first four possessions, two punts, two fumbles. And you're down. Because then

they get going, but you've already you're not good enough to spot a team and to overcome that deficit. You're just not. Keenan Allen was sensational. Nine for a buck, 41. A touchdown. Wrong. A doozy. Four for a buck, 41, a touchdown. Wrong, a doozy. Four for 77, DJ Moore, seven for 68.

They didn't run the ball nearly enough, but you fall behind like that. So basically, you got to throw the running game out the window. But the golf, when you run the ball like they do, play action. Bro, if Jamison Williams lined up on your side, safety, Jonathan Owens. If your cornerback is playing outside leverage, so you know you got the gold ball cup,

the only thing that can hurt you, if he get over the top of you at the post, you better get on your damn horse and get back. I don't know what you looking for, but he can run. And here's the thing, Ocho. Corner don't put what you're looking for but he can run and here's the thing Ocho yeah so you don't make him check his feet so by his fourth step

fifth step he full speed and so while you hey you go back and look at it when they showed all 22 when Stevenson opens up and he starts digging he steps up left foot in the dirt and dig the head to that post

and on his look it's over it's too late yeah it's over it's impossible to recover at that point if you're not already going you got to know when to go

you got to know when to go anticipation skills as a DB is understanding what's in front of you who's in front of you, who's in front of you. That's it. You got to know your competition. You got to.

If I'm on Tyreek's side, Tyreek and I know the cornerback and I know the corner's opening up. Yeah. He's taking away his outside for the goal. Oh, Tyreek ain't beat me to the post. He might run the dagger, but he ain't get to no post. I'm going to stay so far up on that upfield shoulder.

So far up. Yes. You would not beat me out of position. No, sir. Not today. Also, I don't think guys do enough of studying and understand tendencies. Because there are certain things I was not not gonna let a guy beat me with right you're not gonna beat me with your strength now if you got a counter move because i'm gonna

take away the initial move right if i'm in pass protection i'm gonna take away your initial initial move if i know you try to get a feel i'm gonna open up i'm gonna kick but bro they let these guys you know that guy runs four three and you just like casually bro no that's not that's not keenan allen who you practice against right keenan allen is looking to shake your ass up jameson williams is looking to take the top one yeah understand what you're up against who you're up against and you'll be just fine. But I think these guys, a lot of times, I was like, they just going out there and saying, okay, he a wide

receiver. No, bro. Some of these guys can really dig, and you better understand that, or you're going to be smelling deodorant. Oh, that's a tough one. Yeah, make a smell of deodorant, Ocho. That's a good one.

So, I don't,'s a good one. So, I don't, but the Lions look really good. Even after that tough loss last week, they bounced right back. It's,

because think about it, they can go get 30 at the drop of a hat. Any day. They can get 30 at the drop of a hat. You just hope you can hold that

because who they played with the Jags when they put 59, they score. Bro, they didn't punt the ball to damn near five minutes in the fourth quarter. That's how they're going up and down the field. Really good team. Somebody's going to

have their work cut out for them. Y'all better hope y'all can get their ass outside. Hopefully they don't get home field. In that dome? Because if they get home field, you got to hope now, Ocho. They're off a little bit and we can put them behind the eight ball. Right. But if you let them

dictate to you the game, it's going to be long. Man, please. You in for trouble. The Vikings, Minnesota Vikings, go on the road, defeat the Seattle Seahawks 27-24. That's crazy as it trouble. The Vikings, Minnesota Vikings, go on the road, defeat the Seattle Seahawks 27-24.

As crazy as it sounds, the Vikings now have a clear path to the top seed. They'll clinch the top seed if they win their final two games. And because in the process of doing that, that means they would have had to defeat the Detroit Lions. Darnold finished with 22 of 35 passes, 246, three touchdowns, no turnover, found J.J. 10 times for a buck 44, and

scored twice. Sam Darnold, my stake, give J.J. McCarthy your love treatment. He hadn't had a whole lot of game winning drives because he's really not been in a situation. I mean, you play with the Jets and you play with Carolina. Uh, yeah, you're not going to get that many opportunities. But when you look at JJ and Addison and Hawkinson and Aaron Jones, bro,

they've surrounded it with talent. Yeah. He's done a great job of distributing the football. You just can't turn the ball. I mean, Seattle, you turned the ball over too much. You can't throw. Agino had a 31, a 43, 314, three touchdowns, but two picks. The last one is basically a seal the ball game. You can't do that.

No, not at all. You got to give yourself a chance. You have to give yourself a chance. You have to give yourself a chance to win the game and the only way to do that is you have to possess the ball. You got to be able to

possess the ball and be able to move the ball down the goddamn field. You know? You can't do that giving it away especially giving it away to them as well as the Vikings

have been playing all year. Sam Darnold has been phenomenal the entirety of the season. Well That wasn't on my bingo card. I'm just going to be honest with you. Oh, that wasn't on my bingo card. I'm just going to be honest with you. Oh, hell, it wasn't nobody's bingo card. That was not on my bingo card.

Is he eligible for comeback player of the year, Ocho? You got damn right. Is Sam Darnold eligible for comeback player of the year? They got to. Who else did they give it to? Who else did they give it to? You have to because you're not expecting it. You've seen him be a starter in New York.

You've seen him be a starter in New York. You've seen him be a starter. He's ineligible. Huh? Because he didn't come back from illness because after they gave it to Joe Flacco, people got upset. They're like, hold on. Joe didn't come back from nothing. He just came back off his damn couch. He wasn't...

Come on, man. I understand. But listen, I understand. You got to move the goalpost a little bit when it comes to the... What's the word I'm looking for? To the... Damn, what's the word? Anyway, hey, chat. Sam Donahue deserves Comeback Player of the Year.

Whether he's coming back from an injury, whether he's coming back from playing bad, we've seen what he looked like when he was in Carolina. We saw what he looked like when he was with the New York Jets. The way he's played this year, man, he's deserving of that award. I don't care what the three records may be to win it. Man, forget that. No, you can't come back from playing bad. You're just some sauce.

You got to come back from an illness. You got to come back from a major injury like Adrian Peterson, like Teddy Bruschi, like Tom Brady. You know, you got to come back from something. Well, nobody's in contention to win that award because nobody's playing that damn well that's coming off any type of injury or illness. So this year, we need to just give the award to goddamn Sam Donald. Now, I don't know who I need to talk to. I don't know who's soapbox I need to stand on

and who I need to send a letter of recommendation to for Sam Donald, but I will do so. I'm trying to think who's even eligible that I can think of off the top of my head. Is it quarterback or running back? We in week 15 and the fact that you have to think lets you know who needs to win it.

It is right now. I got to pee pee real quick. Hell, if that's the case, what you call him going to win it? Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow had torn ligaments in his wrist. So, I mean, if I had

to vote, that's who I'm voting for because he is coming back off of something. Coming back because you, lack of a better term, suck. That ain't overcoming something. That's overcoming your own bad play. That's not an injury. That's not an illness. But for me, I think Joe Burrow will probably win that award

considering he missed, what, five, six games last year, and he's coming back, and he's leading the league in touchdown passes. He's leading the league in passing yardage. Yeah, for me, that's who I think would win it. I would definitely give it to him. Okay, yeah, J.K. Dobbins. Hell, he out again again so he might be

eligible for it next year he might be eligible for it next year but I get why they doing it this way because Joe Burrow got it and all he did was come off his couch he didn't come off an injury or anything like that and it's like that's not what coming back from because that's the case there are a lot of guys

that suck one year and play really well the next year but that's not what the award was intended for. Joe Burrow is going to win this award. You know that, right? What? You remember Joe Burrow hurt his wrist last year and missed six games? Yeah. Okay.

Now, you still think Sam Darnold shouldn't get that award? Hey, don't you. Don't try to put Joe in this... Don't try to put Joe in this conversation. I'm just telling you, he over... No, no, no. Listen, listen.

If there's a conversation you want to have and you want to use Joe Burrow's name, it needs to be the MVP conversation. He's not no comeback player of the year.

We used to see... Did Joe Burrow overcome an injury? Did he finish the season last year? It's a simple question. It's a simple yes or a simple no.

Did Joe Burrow finish the season for the Cincinnati Bengals last year? No. So therefore, he would have been a player that overcame injury or an illness. Now, what was the injury or the illness that Sam Donald overcame to make himself eligible for this award?

The illness is having to play for the Jets organization. He wasn't with the Jets. He was with the 49ers. He was a backup. Okay, let's try again. Okay. The Panthers organization then. He wasn't on the Panthers.

That was two years ago. He was on the 49ers on the backup role. Again, let's try again. All right, the 49ers. You know what? The goddamn, the mental, I'm trying to think of a word to use to help Sam out right here, and I can't think of an argument.

I can't think of an argument. That lets you know right there. You got it. There you go. Okay, if there's an MIP, if you want to say most improved player... Right. But that's only in basketball. We don't have that in football. Right.

You're right. You're right. You're right. Listen, I'm trying to figure out an argument for him, but I can't right now. I can't. Oh, you're going to figure out an argument for Sam Darnold over Joe Burrow for comeback player of the year. Yeah, because I'm not... Listen, we're used to seeing Joe play great in regards. We're not saying,

oh, all of a sudden he came back from injury. He came back of an injury or illness. He's not the most improved because we're used to seeing him play like this. But that's not the most improved. It's comeback. Comeback, in the definition of the bylaws, you must come back from an injury or an illness. You still haven't told me the injury or the

illness that Sam Darnold overcame to be in this discussion. Well, shit, the illness is having to be a backup for some horrendous teams. What, being a backup for the 49ers is a bad job? You went to the Super Bowl. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

I didn't say that. I'm just saying the two before that, the previous ones before that. You don't get, wait a minute. So you want to jump, you want to jump two years, three years,

and say, okay, he's still overcoming, trying to come back from there. Yes, that stuff takes a mental toll on you. That stuff takes a mental toll on you. That stuff takes a mental toll on you. Can you imagine the dysfunction you had to deal with back to back in two different places? Then all of a sudden you get the sunshine over in San Francisco where things are okay,

but you don't get to see the field. You don't get to show them what you can do. I'll give it to Bryce Young then. How about that? Bryce Young won one game. He's looking good though. He's looking good. We'll get that in a minute.

I mean, you don't want to give it over to Bryce? Hold on, check this out. He won one game last year and he got benched during the season this year. Damn. Hey, there's a chance.

I don't know. There's a chance. Ricky Pearsall got shot. Tank Dale got shot. Come on now. You don't think that's overcoming something? Somebody put some hot lead in your ass?

Man, come on. That gotta be something, don't it, Chad? Nah, man. That don't count. That don't count. Hey, listen. Sam is playing so well. I think he's played himself into

a good contract with another team, but I don't think the Vikings let him go. I don't think the Vikings let him go simply because of the uncertainty in J.J. McCarthy going to be healthy and ready to go when he gets back.

Isn't that a situation where it could be like a Kirk Cousins and a Michael Pinnock Jr. Do we secure Sam Donald and knowing what he gives you? If McCarthy happens to go down again, I mean, you, yeah, you win it.

You win it. Invest a hundred plus million guarantee. Cause you see what it, and I tried to tell you, and you said no. Now, Cousins made $62 million this year. Right. He's going to make another $38 million next year to get him at $100. Now, they're not going to pick up that roster bonus because they didn't pick up the roster bonus.

They had to insure the rest of it, which would have made $180 million. So now he's going to be in pull of rust. You okay with that? And I tried it, and I said, Ocho, at best case scenario, Cousins gives you two years. That's the absolute best case, and you're paying him $100 million. What happens if he gives you one, and you're still on the hook for $100 million? That's exactly what he gave us.

It was when you're hoping, your fingers are crossed, your fingers are crossed, and it didn't work. It didn't work out how we thought it would. We didn't get the Kirk Cousins that we thought we were going to get. We saw him. We did. We got him in the first half, but there was a five game stretch when you got the Kirk Cousins that

we know he could potentially be also. Yeah, but when he was on, he. Yeah. But when he was on, he was on. But when he's off, oh, he off. I'm talking about he off. Yeah, yeah. When he's off, yeah. Hide the women and children because, hey, he about to pull his pants down.

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