Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to all of the Upsets in College Football

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson can’t believe all of the upsets that occurred today! Arkansas takes down Tennessee, Vanderbilt shocks Alabama, Minnesota beats the Trojans and much more!03:18 - Show starts06:00 - Razorbacks upset Tennessee14:10 - Vanderbilt upset Alabama30:31 - Texas A&M upset Mizzou34:06 - Minnesota upset Trojans41:10 - Huskies upset Wolverines44:37 - Ashton Jeanty48:40 - Money Moves(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. This is college football edition. Upset style Saturday. Oh, Joe, that guy at the bottom of your screen is my co-host. He's let's see. Chad. No, he's from Liberty City.

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Wall Suick, the Razorbacks, get their first AP top win at home since 1999. Tennessee quarterback, Nico E... Ooh, E-R Amale? E-R Amaleaba.

Hey, Nico, I don't know what you were thinking. When you got the ball, it was six seconds on the clock. Ocho, we're not going to be as harsh as if he was a professional player, but that was a Pop Warner move. Why the hell would you run out of bounds with no time on the clock? Bro, throw it in the end zone. Who cares if it gets picked? You got to give your guy an opportunity, Ocho.

You got to give him a chance, especially in that case. He only got six seconds to go. I think he didn't want to throw a pick not knowing that you got to throw that up there. You got to give somebody a chance to make a play, especially at the end of the game. There's no time left on the clock. Ocho, guess what else he hadn't thrown? A touchdown. So he was just as likely to throw a touchdown as he

was an interception, considering he hadn't thrown either one. So there's a 50-50 chance. In that situation, you throw a touchdown, you win. You throw the interception, you lose. But guess what happens 100% of the time if you run out of bounds in that situation you lose

100% of the time if you run out of bounds with no time on the clock and you're trailing on the scoreboard you lose I don't get it I don't get it he's a quarterback of a power

five school you have to be of fair intelligence it. He's a quarterback of a power five school. You have to be of fair intelligence to process information. Recall. I get it. A lot of teams, Ocho, they just hold up the play and the play is what it is. It's not like you regurgitating what you hear come through

the headset like in the NFL. But Ocho, you can't do it. You gotta know that. We can't blame college. I mean, at any point, on any level, you know if it's six seconds on the clock, you gotta put the ball in the end zone and give your team a chance. You got to.

Ocho, you got to. You got to, man. Come on. But give Arkansas credit. For one, they didn't even have to be in this situation. They had four quarters to get the goddamn job done. Yeah. So we can't talk about just the one play at the end where he made,

I hate using the word bonehead, but that's what my coaches used to say when I used to make mistakes like this. Yes. That was a bonehead play, Ocho. It was. I mean, you just got to make, you have to have to. See, that's football IQ. That's situational awareness.

If I run out of bounds, we guarantee to lose. Yeah. See, that's football IQ. That's situational awareness. If I run out of bounds, we guarantee to lose. Yeah. Okay, Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, you throw it to the end zone. They P.I. Guess what? You get another play and you get it at a two-yard line.

So now you're even closer. He took all the probabilities, anything that possibly could have happened, good, bad, or indifferent. He took that on his back and ran out of bounds with it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But this is a learning experience for him because this opportunity or this chance might come again at some point later on in life.

And it's maybe not college, maybe NFL. You never know. Wherever he decides to play at the next level. It's going to come again. It's going to rise again. And he won't make that same mistake. Boy, can you imagine had he done this in the NFL, he would not be able to go home. Oh, yeah.

Also, with no time on the clock, you're down five points. And you run out of bounds with no time on the clock, and you don't throw it to the end zone. You don't try to fumble it forward. You don't do nothing. You guarantee, like, you know what? You know what, Arkansas? I'm going to let y'all leave with the win. My name is...

What is it? Hold on. Let me see. Hello. As you got to say, I am a layover. I am a layover. I am a layover. He said, well, I'm going to leave Ima Aleva. Ima Aleva. He said, well, I'm going to leave here with a loss. He said.

And you know what the funny. Go ahead. You know, the funny thing about today's games is I looked at the schedule. I looked at the schedule for the game today. And I said to myself, you know, well, damn, looking at the schedule, today's collegiate games are going to be boring based on the slate of games that I saw. I was like, well, all the teams that are ranked are basically going to win the game that win the games that they're playing against their opponents.

And hell, man, it was completely different. That's what it was completely different than what I expected. But for those that gamble or bet on these these games i know you got to be pissed oh yeah yeah yeah everybody everybody caught the air because i know for certain you took alabama over vanderbilt oh yeah over vanderbilt yeah but don't show this is why people love football because it's one game. It's not a series. You play baseball, you play a basketball, or you play, it's the best two out of three. It's the best three out of five. It's the best

four out of seven. But in football, it is not a series. It's one night. And see, the thing is that, you know, I can have a bad night in basketball because look at it. Michael lost game one of his first NBA finals. They came back and won four straight had that bad football it's over somebody else went into the super bowl somebody else went into the national championship that's why people love

football so much because on a given night the best team don't always win but the team that plays the best will normally win but think think about it think about some of the some of the teams that lost tonight think about when tennessee was ranked at the highest or alabama was was ranked at number one and number two you know back in the days where they have when when saban was there how often do you see a team that's ranked high lose or when florida's the florida states and the florida's and's and the university of Miami used to dominate and they were ranked real high. Like the chances of them losing the game like this, the teams that are,

that are unranked, you got that slim, but understand that this is a conference. Times have changed. Vanderbilt plays in the conference with Alabama, Arkansas and Tennessee of conference rivals. Yeah. Texas A&M in Missouri,

their conference rival. Now Washington and Michigan. i don't think it's what is washington in the big team or is it just ucla and usc the washington didn't make the trip did it oh look at look at uh uh usc and minnesota so the thing is it's something there's a couple of times a year because i remember alabama had to go by a block field goal, Tennessee, in order to win a national championship. Or because they were about to lose and not go to the SEC championship game. So we've seen things like this happen before. But normally the higher seed, the number one, the number three, number 14, they find a way to pull it out at the end.

And they just had a scare but what happens ocho is that when you give a team like that and you go to the fourth quarter it's over and they end the game my grandfather always say boy killing that with a sledgehammer you fly you you you doing all this he gonna come back he gonna come back and annoy you and that's what happened. Tennessee, number four Tennessee, gets knocked off by unranked on the road. If you think about it, a lot of these teams that lost, they were on the road. Alabama was on the road.

Tennessee was on the road. USC was on the road. Mizzou was on the road. Michigan was on the road. That's five. Now, there could be more, but that's five that were on the road. Michigan was on the road. That's five. Now, there could be more, but that's five that were old, that lost. So Tennessee, the number four team in the country, gets

knocked off on the road by the Razorbacks 19-14. That has to feel good. Jerry is extremely happy about that. The biggest upset of the day, Vanderbilt, 40. Alabama, 35. Longer bottom day, Vanderbilt, 40, Alabama, 35. Longer bottom feeder.

Vanderbilt was 0-60 all-time versus AP top five teams before today. It's the longest such streak in the pole era. The pole era started in 1936. The Commodores hadn't beat Alabama in 40 years on the field in 40 years, 1984. The 23-game losing streak to Alabama, this first win against Bama since 1984. Vanderbilt goalposts traveled three miles and was dumped in the Cumberland River. Fire department dug it out. From tearing down, it ended up in the river. It only took Vanderbilt's fans

a little over an hour to get that goal post three miles to dump it in the Cumberland River. Nick Saban pwned at the Commodores two weeks early on the back of the show saying the only place in the SEC that's not hard to play at is Vanderbilt. It's no disrespect

to them. It's just the truth. Vanderbilt had some fun with the quote after the game and played Saban's quote on the loudspeaker. Ocho, Alabama goes down 40-35, the number one team in the country after they took down the number two team, Georgia Bulldogs, who hadn't lost a regular season game in almost three years. But today, Vanderbilt, I've never seen anything like this, Ocho.

Time of possession, 42 minutes and six seconds to 1754. I've never seen that lopsided of a time of possession. Now, I'm not saying it hadn't happened, but I'm just saying I hadn't seen it. Go ahead. You know why it's happening? I'm trying to understand and figure out where is Alabama's defense. They continue to disappear. Offensively, they play well.

They play well in spurts, and then they disappear for a little bit and allow a team to get back in. When they played Georgia, they had a significant lead, and the defense allowed them to come back and get in the game. Today, when Alabama defense needed to stop, they couldn't get a stop, huh? I was hoping they would get a stop just so they can get the ball

back again and see if Brother Miro can take them boys down and score so they can pull this one off the day. If you think about Ocho on what, the third play of the game, second play of the game, he throws a pick six. It's a fluky pick six. The ball caroms up in the air. The guy picks it off. He got stripped sack.

The guy did a great play. He got him dead to right. It's not good enough to just get the sack, Ocho. He strips the ball out of his hand. Great awareness from him. But the thing was, Ocho, Vanderbilt was 12 of 18 on third downs. I don't know if I've ever seen that many third downs. Do you know how hard it is to get to 18 third downs, let alone convert 12 of 18 on third downs. I don't know if I've ever seen that many third downs. Do you know how hard it is to get to 18 third downs?

Let alone convert 12 of them. 12 of them, yeah. They were 12 of 18 on third down, one of one on fourth down. And when you dominate time of possession, two and a half to one, let that sink in on you, two and a half to one time of possession.

Alabama couldn't get the ball back. So even though Alabama was scoring, Williams made another circus catch. He was unbelievable again. But when you get the ball back, because it's not like Vanderbilt was scoring, but they're taking six, eight minutes off the clock. Every time.

And so they got the quick score. They're like, okay, you got two the clock. Every time. Every time. They got the quick score. You got two timeouts. You got two minutes and 38 seconds. They got to keep getting beat. They ran the flow pass and they run the shovel. Anytime they got in trouble on third down

and Alabama couldn't stop them, they made no adjustments. They work every time. I'm not sure. I don't know if adjustments weren't made, but obviously at some point, coaches have to see. Somebody has to say something. Whoever the spotter is up there in the goddamn booth, call down. Listen, they're doing

the same thing over and over and over every time they get in a third down situation. Make adjustments, and you play ball. Yeah. Bro, your quarterback opens up. He did you did you lose side of the time with number nine the wide receiver he runs like a lag and you have the back that goes like he's going to flat and the quarterback shovels to him he turns it up he's picking up first down he's picking up big major yards and then they run the flow pass the guy to

the flat like like got zero that's the guy that's your guy why you why where you going bro as in the backfield as in the backfield ojo as in the back alabama goes down the number one team in the country on the road against the vanderbilt commodores normally the guys at vanderbilt they're probably going to be more apt to be uh financial advisors they're going to probably be uh be not a whole lot of guys end up in the NFL. But hey, today, they were better than Alabama, Ocho. Yeah, I got one more question. You probably know that

when it comes to the rankings a little better than I do. And even though Alabama lost, now, what does that mean for their ranking as far as being number one in the AP poll? Does that change? Oh, they're gone.

They're not being number one. Texas probably moved up Does that change? They're not being number one. Texas probably moved up to number one because they're the number two seed. The question is how far will they drop? They did lose to but here's the thing. Tennessee, they lost to an unranked team. USC,

they lost. Michigan, number 10, they lost. Mizzou was number 10. They lost to Texas A&M, I think,, number 10. They lost. Mizzou was number 10. They lost to Texas A&M, I think, was number 25. They lost. The question is, how far does everybody drop?

Do you think Alabama dropped far simply because it is Alabama? Yeah, because it's an unranked team. That's Vanderbilt. Yeah, but I'm saying that committee, they be playing around when it comes to certain teamsed team. That's Vanderbilt. Yeah, but I'm saying, you know, that committee, they be playing around when it comes to certain teams now. But here's the thing. You got 12 teams this year.

It's not a death sentence. Probably. Okay. Had they, this is the regular format where you're only taking four teams, this probably would have been a death blow. Okay. Because you're taking 12 teams, it's not life or death. Now, you can't have any more slip-ups now you still

got old miss you still got auburn you still got lsu on your schedule uh so alabama vanderbilt 26 first downs alabama 17 alabama was three of seven on third down vanderbilt was 12 of 18 that'll get you beat uh both quarterbacks threw it well 18 of 24 uh for jaylen mill row over 300 yards 310 yards passing uh vanderbilt was 12 of 18 252 yards passing so uh but the difference was vanderbilt had 54 carries for 186 yards when you run the ball 54 times you're going to dominate the time of possession because it's so funny i think today uh as far as ranked team ranked teams are concerned today was the day of upsets not only did alab, Michigan, USC, and Tennessee lose, obviously Alabama as well.

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It's different, Ocho. It's different.cho it's different you got to deal with college kids a lot of times the moment the lights get bright they're not used to being in that environment

and look Alabama came off that's an emotional win last week Ocho you take down the Georgia Bulldogs who hadn't lost in almost three years

a regular season game. You take them down. You go in to play Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt is the doormat. Hey, Vanderbilt is everybody's homecoming. No disrespect, but people put Vanderbilt on their schedule for homecoming because our alumni is coming back. We want to get the

students excited. We want the alumni to see us kick somebody's ass. That's who you schedule. You schedule Vanderbilt. But they got that pig six. They got it early. And it's like, hold on, wait a minute. They started running the football, Ocho?

They set the tone. Listen, a play like that, it make you believe. It make you believe, like, hold on, we can play with these fellas. Hold on. We can play with these boys. And that's exactly what happened. The one thing Alabama prides itself on,

Ocho, being able to stop the run. Yeah. Nick Saban played the 34, that defense with 34 defense. They had them big halls up there. The outside linebackers stopped the run. The thing that's always

given him problem because he's done a great job of stopping the run was mobile quarterbacks. You look at who's been coached. Go back and take a look. Cam Newton. Johnny Manziel.

Deshaun Watson. What do all those guys have in common? Legs. Legs. Legs. If you have a little mobility, Trevor Lawrence,

Cordell Jones, those are the type of guys, Johnny Football, Johnny Manziel. Look at, those are the guys that normally give Coach Saban defense trouble because Coach Saban does a great job.

I mean, you got to go back. The only time I can think of somebody just like just ran the ball down their throat were Ohio State and the college football playoff when Zeke went for like 225, 240. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the only time that I can remember off the top of my head. Now, mobile quarterbacks give him problems because they're elusive in the A. You drop in coverage and you guys run past them and they jump out to win

and they get to take off down the field. But today, Vanderbilt just lined up and just ran the football and had great success running the football, which you don't normally see against Alabama. Right. Because Alabama has a lot of guys on the defensive line and linebackers and even corners and safeties that's going to play on Sundays. You go to Alabama,

you want to play on Sundays, Ocho. Let's not sugarcoat it. So, I mean, with a loss like today, what do you think the problem is? It can be coaching because if you have a team full of four and five star players, a game shouldn't look like that, especially when you got those hogs up there in the trenches.

I mean, you couldn't stop the run. Hell, they couldn't stop the pass. So do they have that many players that are good enough to go to the NFL or will be going to the draft this year? Well, that's the thing about college football, Ocho, is that it's easy for those guys to lose focus. You got to realize now you're dealing with 18, 19, 20-year-olds. Lose focus? Yes, yes got to realize now you're dealing with 18, 19, 20 year olds. Lose

focus? Yes, yes. Let me ask you a question. When you're 18, 19 year old, did you have the same focus you had as a 26? It's a simple yes or no. Exactly. Yeah, but I'm talking about on that field, you locked in no matter what. They're kids, Ocho.

That's why I didn't beat the kid up from Alabama. He's a kid. he 18 19 20 maybe huh how does yeah tennessee yeah i'm saying what did i say oh that's why i didn't beat him up the kid yeah yeah i mean that's a horrible mistake that's a horrible lapse in judgment but right okay what if that had been an NFL player? Oh, man. But you know, an NFL player will understand situational awareness, especially in that.

And that's going to come into your goddamn headset. Listen, you got to give us a chance. No. That's the first thing they're going to say through that headset. You got to give us a chance. If nothing there, you got to throw it up. Ocho, we've seen guys run out of the end zone.

That's NFL quarterbacks. We've seen guys... Oh, Dan? We've seen quarterbacks make bonehead plays, like have a guy throw the ball out of the end zone. Like, bro, why are you throwing the ball? Why would you throw the ball? But an 18, 19-year-old, yes,

that's the hardest thing, is to keep the guys focused because the attention span of an 18, 19-year- old is not that of a 25, 27 year old. That's look. And I understand the NIL money, the collective money, and they get get some money. And I get that. But the focus is not that of a professional because you understand these are still kids. I mean, some kids are mature. I'm not saying all of them, Ocho, but I'm saying it's harder to keep getting young guys to have a singular focus

than, say, NFL guys. But, you know, there's no excuse for him running out of bounds. There's no excuse for that. But we saw it last week, Ocho, that the guys lose a little focus here

and it doesn't take much now. Yeah. Because the game is, look, the game is like inches, not miles. You have a lapse in judgment, it's a touchdown. Oh, yeah. That's it.

It's a touchdown. But give Vanderbilt credit. I mean, they got tired of being that 2 two and two one and one in the conference uh i'm sure they get tired of hearing we're the weak league i mean y'all just collecting checks y'all everybody y'all get y'all 45 50 million dollars that the sec uh dole out after everything that's happened y'all happy with that y'all got a big old endowment uh but y'all ain't really trying to win no football games. First of all, it's so damn hard to get into there. I ain't going. Man, look, I'm not

going to spend all my time studying. I'm majoring in eligibility, which means I'm trying to stay on the field to get to the next level. Y'all not going to have me in study hall five, six, seven, eight, ten hours a week. Oh, hell no. In the library, writing, doing projects? Oh,

no. So, I majored in football. That's my major. And it's the process of getting a degree in political science or history or criminal justice. Okay. Well, listen, but we're on the same page. We're on the same page.

Yeah. Now, you know, my brother, he's there, going to summer school, got two degrees. Nah. The only degree I was trying to get was like a suntan. It was 105 in Savannah. That was the only degrees, 105 degrees. No, I was like, I'm here now. I might as well, you know, go to class and get my schoolwork.

Like my granddad said, get your lesson, son. Get your lesson. You're dying there, son. Get your lesson. Might as well. Might as well, Ocho. I was dying there then. But Vanderbilt pulls off one of the biggest stuff sets in the last decade, at least. Taking down number one Alabama, 40-35.

They dominate time of possession 42 minutes and 8 seconds to 17 minutes and 52 seconds. Give Vanderbilt credit. They won. They deserve to win. They outplayed them today. Texas A&M at home upsets Mizzou

41-10. Texas A&M quarterback will lead the third. He's nicknamed the blanket. He sent this blanket and a note to the Missouri wide receiver, Theo Weiss. Theo Weiss Jr. ahead of the game. A warm welcome to College Station.

I like it. Get used to this blanket. It will be real tomorrow. Will the blanket. Wow. Sit home, boy. Weiss pulled up wearing the blanket that would have held him to zero catches in the first half will blanket lead tweeted after the game it wasn't me olivia moth ran for 138 yards

with three touchdowns career high 138 yards as texas a&m handed missouri its first loss with a 41 10 victory uh a&M was up 24-0 at the half. And Patty, the lead, with Moss, went 75 yards on a touchdown on the first third of the third quarter. Coach Drinkowitz said he was embarrassed by his team's performance.

We weren't competitive, and that's not the Mizzou football, he said. Yeah, what was Mizzou ranked? Mizzou was ranked. Number 10. Number 9 or 10. And they were on the road? I saw a number of these games. Mizzou was ranked number 9.

No, they were on the road. Yes, Mizzou was on the road at Texas A&M. All the teams that lost were on the road today. That's crazy. That's, oh. I like, I like, I like Will Lee. I like the little message he sent. Even if he didn't do it, I like it. Because not only did, if he didn't do it, he backed it up.

Well, you got to back it up if you do it. He backed it up. I mean, it made watching the game exciting because now I'm locked in. I want to see how Theo Weiss responds to getting the blanket. Now I want to see if William Lee blanket, the blanket, a.k.a. the blanket,

if he really liked that. So that made it exciting for me. But, I mean, Texas A&M dominated the whole goddamn game. It made me think maybe Mizzou was ranked. It made me think Mizzou wasn't supposed to be ranked the way they look today. Ain't no way in hell Texas A&M that much better. You know, Ocho, it's a situation when you're on the road and a team get out.

It can easily get out of hand. Yeah. You saw last week Georgia fall back, but you saw it was 28-0 at the blink of an eye, and that was the number two team in the country. Yeah. So you have to be careful when you're on the road. A crowd gets into it.

You fall down 7-0. You come out, you go 3-0. Next thing you know, you're down 14-0, and all of a sudden you got the crowd into the game. Now it's harder for you to hear. Guys hadn't been in that situation before. And before you know it, the game gets out of hand. 24-0, and that crowd is rocking in the house that Johnny built,

and it's over. It was over. The score was at the end of the third quarter. The score was 34-7. So, Texas A&M, the number 25 Texas A&M Aggies take down the number nine Missouri Tigers, 41-10. As Texas A&M is now 5-1, they're 3-0 in the conference. Missouri, 4-1, 1-1 in the conference.

Minnesota upsets the number 11. Trojans, 24-17, the men of Troy. Brosmer on fourth and goal sneak. Max Brosmer powered into the end zone from Minnesota on the fourth and goal from the one-yard line with 56 seconds left, breaking the tie with the third rushing touchdown of the game. With the Trojans 3-2, 1-2 in the Big Ten,

out of timeouts, Miller Moss moved them within striking range before a heave from the 28th into double coverage was picked off into the end zone. USC hosts Penn State next Saturday. The Trojans and the Nittany Lions last met in the Rose Bowl in January 2nd, 2017. Oh, yeah, that's when Saquon went crazy, but I think they ended up losing. Yeah, USC won. That should be a good game.

Because that's when Sam Darnold, they had that field day? Yeah, it had to be. Because Saquon went crazy, but it wasn't enough to overcome, I think it was Sam Darnold. Yeah, Lee SC. 24-17, unranked Minnesota. Okay, Ocho, that's twice. Unranked team. That's twice. Ranked team. Yeah. At SC. 24-17, unranked Minnesota. Okay, Ochoa, that's twice. Unranked team.

That's twice. Ranked team. Yeah. At home, boom. Wait, I mean, USC wasn't that, I mean, I hate saying it like that. USC wasn't that good to begin with, man. They're number 11 in the country. Yeah, but they not, man, they don't remind me of the

USC of old, man. Well, the USC of old, you got to go back 20 years to talk about Reggie Bush. You talking about them? Yeah, I'm talking about... Listen, they always got some gangster receivers, too, huh? They still got some good receivers. I said gangster.

Every receiver is good. I'm talking about like... Okay, where was the last i gotta tune in because so and so is playing i mean you take drake london out of the mid you gotta go way way back to usc having gangster receivers oh whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on now juju smith uh mike williams you do realize how long that's been hold Hold on, I'm trying to think. Who else? They done had some dogs come through there now. Yes. Yes, they've had some very good receivers come through there. Len Swan, yes.

Oh, come on. Keyshawn. They done went way back. What's that? Didn't Jarrett? I'm talking about a little bit more recent now. A little bit more recent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Drake was nice. You know, that was it. I call it that must-see TV It's just not the same The appeal, the excitement When certain teams are playing Because there's really nobody watching Hell, when Ohio State play

Goddamn, I want to see Jeremiah Smith With Alabama playing Hell, I want to see Ryan Williams If Colorado's playing I want to see Ryan Williams. Yes. If Colorado's plan, I want to see what the hell Travis Hunter finna do. But everybody ain't got those guys, Ocho. That's just like everybody ain't got a Shadur Sanders.

Every college should have at least one that puts asses in seats and puts eyes on the TV. At least one. All you need is one. Where they gonna get them from? If you a top-ranked, you going to one of those schools

that's not like that? Well, it's the money, right? How many schools you think got money like that? Oh, oh, they got it now. You heard me? They got it now. Oh, they got it now.

But them schools not paying it. So you think Boise State will go out there and drop a million dollars, a million five on a wire receipt? No. Let me ask you a question. If Travis Hunter, if Deion is not at Colorado, Travis Hunter going to Colorado?

No. You know what? That's a good question. You ain't no good question. You know he's not. He was already at Florida State until Deion flipped him. Hey, could you imagine if he was at Florida State right now? Hell, it don't matter. We went.

He would still be doing the same goddamn thing. Now, I understand. Now, what I can understand is wide receivers because you know Lincoln Riley knows offense. He's going to have a quarterback

that can throw the ball. I don't know why. If I'm a wide receiver, hell, that's one of the first places I'm looking at. I want to go. Yeah. USC, yeah. Because I know Lincoln Riley going to dial it up. All them Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks, he's uncoached. Right.

The offense that's very NFL friendly because they're going to throw it, they're going to spread it around. Yes. I'm looking at USC. And the big Hollywood execs, hell, they got money at USC. Hell, they flipped Jordan Addison. I forgot about Jordan Addison.

He won the Belinda Cup award at Penn. And next year, he... He was nice. He's still nice. Matter of fact, we get to see him and we get to see Jordan Addison playing by what? Six more hours? Yeah. I'm ready for that.

But the Golden Gophers of Minnesota take down the number 11 men of Troy. 24-17. A late touchdown run seals the deal as Minnesota 24 unranked. Number 11 USC, the Trojans, 17.

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Huskies beat the number 10 Michigan Wolverines on Saturday night in a rematch of last season's college football playoff championship game. Will Rogers threw for 271 yards

in a first half touchdown. Jonah Coleman, one-yard TD run with 622 left, gave Washington the lead. The loss snapped Michigan 24 game, Big Ten regular season win streak. Hey, Michigan got to stop running that ball, man. They need to

put the ball in the air. Who? Who? Put the ball in the air. That's the whole point. Listen, you can't run the ball in the air. With who? I mean, that's the whole point. Listen, you can't run the ball down everybody's throat. You can't. You can't throw it if you ain't got people that's capable of throwing it either.

I mean, listen, I know the quarterback ain't that goddamn bad. Clearly he is. Clearly he is. Because the coach the coach see if that's what I tell people Ocho you got to realize

players and coaches see these players every day at practice we know what they can and can't do they play him what they better not play him

yeah you're right you're right you're right you're right 10 of 18 Ocho 10 of 18 98 yardscho. 10 of 18. 98 yards.

3 of 7. 15 yards. They threw the ball for 113 yards. 10 of 18? They were 13 of 25. So they were slightly above. So what's that? 52, 53%?

In college. For 113 yards. And you talk about throw it. Yeah, you can't. But you're not going to win many games like that. You're not. That's why they won games last year. They ran everybody out of the stadium.

Oh, no. I'm saying if you don't, they don't have what they had last year, though. They don't. Oh, no, I'm saying if you don't, they don't have what they had last year, though. They don't. Oh, no, no, absolutely not. A lot of those guys playing on Sunday. They playing on Sundays right now. But they don't have right now, Ocho, they don't have the quarterback that they have confidence in that consistently drop back and throw the football.

And I'm not saying, because that's why you have 30. I mean, if you think about it, that that's 62 plays and they ran the ball 37 times i mean they got four and a half yards to carry which isn't bad they're trying to shorten the game we don't want to they're telling their quarterback we don't need you to win the game we just don't need you to lose it yeah so we're going to put to win the game. We just don't need you to lose it. Yeah. So we're going to put you in the most favorable situation

we possibly can. We wanted to be, if we throw the football, we wanted to be third and short. We want to play at, we want to boot. We want to get you on edges. So we cut down half the field, Ocho.

You know, a lot of times when you could run the boot, you cut down half the field. You're not worried about the backside. I want the quarterback to just focus from the hash to the sideline. Yeah.

But unranked Washington at home takes down the number 10 Wolverines of Michigan. Man. Did they pay the coach yet? Did they pay the coach yet at Michigan? No.

Well, they're in week six, ain't it? Yep. Or they're in week seven? Week six. Man, you better cut my check, man. You got me going through this. Okay, Ocho. Aston Jenty goes off for 186 yards and three touchdowns on 13 first half

carries in Boise State's victory over Utah State. Jente became only the eighth FBS running back since 1996 to eclipse 1,000 yards rushing in his first five games. That list includes Ricky Williams and Leonard Fournette. He already has 1,000 yards rushing through five games, and he doesn't even have 100 carries. For context, Barry needed 130 carries

to gain 1,000 yards in his record-setting season in which he finished with 2,628 yards. But here's the thing, Ocho. Barry had 225 yards and five touchdowns in a bowl game that didn't count.

So he'd have been over 2,800 yards, 40-plus touchdowns in 13 games. Yeah. I mean, Barry's a different case. But this young man here, after watching him tonight, Ocho, oh, this dude here, man, he for real. Oh, yeah. He's nice.

How tall is he, huh? You think? He look like, he remind me of Darren Sproles. A little bit like a bigger Darren Sproles. Ocho, I was about to say, he look like he like 5'8", 5'9". That's what I'm thinking. Okay, yeah. I know I wasn't tripping. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. He not, he... You think he... I mean, he compact now.

He put together now. He's... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is. He is. He like a... You think he a 4'3 guy or no? He look fast, man, because he break it out. He at least. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is. He is. He like, you think he a 4-3 guy? No. He look fast, man, because he break it out. He at least 4-4 Ocho. Okay. So, he gonna play on Sundays, put them numbers like that, huh?

Huh? He gonna play on Sundays, put them numbers like that? Oh, yeah, for sure. Right now, he done bought it to the lead in the Heisman race. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You right. You right. JT now has 90 carries, 1,004 yards with 15 touchdowns. In five games.

You know what? Will they try to use him not playing against elite competition against him? Because, you know, the scouts are good. They're good for doing that. They're good for doing that. Would you be able to do this at any other school? I don't give a damn who he's playing against.

He could be playing against Galliardette. He runs for 2,800 yards. They better get that man, that Heisman. I don't give a damn who he's playing against. Do y'all understand how much 20... This dude is on pace to average 10 yards a carry. Yeah.

10. He has 1,000 yards in five games on 90 carries. Yeah. Yeah. I just... I'd let him play. I'd say, look here, son.

I'm going to give you two series in the third quarter. Right. I'm going to try't let him play I was like look here son I'm gonna give you two series in the third quarter right I'm gonna try to let him get 300 because I know there are gonna be some games that possibly Ocho he don't have rush games like this now everybody gonna be Barry cause Barry was rushing for 300 against Oklahoma

he's rushing for 285 against Nebraska Barry was a for 300 against Oklahoma. He's rushing for 285 against Nebraska. It's a real deal. Barry was a different animal, though. But this kid here, I mean, watching him tonight, I said, let me see what he really got going on. He nice. Yeah. He nice.

Yeah. Hey, do you know when they will play better competition? I want to see him against a better competition. Where's a good defense? The Mountain West? Yeah, the what? The Mountain West. They got Hawaii, UNLV. Anybody ranked on

their schedule? No. UNLV is ranked. Wait, UNLV, what would it rank? Like 20-something 20 something yeah but they just lost though so all right now it's time for money moves sponsored by draft kings genty now has the best odds to win the heisman. Jenty, plus 225. Travis Hunter, plus 320. Cam Ward, plus 900.

Jalen Milrow, plus 1,000. Well, I mean, hold on now. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Jalen Milrow, do things change now that they've lost?

They just factored that in. That's lost? They just factored that in. It's updated. They just factored that in, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay, okay. And I'm sure Travis Hunter's case for Heisman will continue to rise, especially when he has a great showing against K-State coming up this weekend. Yeah, Okay. But here's the thing, though, Ocho.

You just said, what about the competition? Now, what happens when Jenty rushed for 300 yards? What is his stock going to do? Yeah. The dude had 186 on 13 carries, Ocho, and didn't play a snap in the second half. Yeah. Hey, why do coaches do that?

Why not let him obliterate the record? Yeah, because's hey, why do coaches do that? Why not let him obliterate the record? Yeah, because they're going to say, well, we don't want to get him hurt. You know, because Ocho, they had they was up like 40, 49 to like 10 at the half.

You get him nicked in a game, they're like, why you got him in the game? Ocho, you know what's coming. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got you, I got you. It makes sense. But, shit, Campbell got to pick it up, man, this second half now. Yeah, he does. You got to pick it up.

I mean, it's happened to me because it happened to me, Ocho, my senior year in college. We get like, I remember the first game of the season, I had like five catches, a buck fifty, and two touchdowns. So, I'm thinking to myself, oh, I remember the first game of the season. I had like five catches, a buck, 52 touchdowns. So I'm saying, I'm thinking to myself, oh, I'm going for three. Coach told me, leave my pants in the locker room. I said, coach, I know you, I know you were mad. What?

Oh, Joe. I said, coach, coach, I can get three. He said, son, you're going to play on Sundays. If something happened to you, I'd never forgive myself. Right. That's one thing. Ocho, you know I ain't trying to hear that. We ain't trying to hear that.

We ain't trying to hear that. Sometimes your coach has got to save you for yourself, though. He does. He did the same thing. Sometimes your coach has got to save you for yourself. What I have, I had 10 for like 205 and 4 touchdowns against Clark

he said come on son you done done enough I said coach let me get 5 touchdowns I'm trying I I

I know oh man oh I was trying to sneak on the field man I was on the field hey then I went out there go call the pass

oh I done snuck on the field man coach hey then I told coach Davis it went out there, go call the pan. Oh, try to snuggle. Hey, then I told coach David, man, sharp out there. He done called a tire. Oh, I'm going to get,

I'm going to get that touchdown. Oh, Joe. I had a toe. I had a toe poke by quarterback. I said, poke over his face. Cause he looked at me like,

man, what you doing here? I thought they took you out. I said, man, shut up and throw me this fade. Man. Then I told Mac, Mac and I told coach David, Hey, what you doing here? I thought they took you out. I said, man, shut up. They throw me this fade. Man, then I told Mackie. Mackie, I told Coach Davis, hey, Coach Sharp back out there. I took him running down the sideline.

I said, get your ass out of the game. Man, I'm going to stab the ball. Stab it. Hey. Yeah, no. Now, that's funny. Man, don't you. I was trying to get me some stats

I mean think about Ocho I had 60 catches 1300 yards and 18 touchdowns just think about what I could have had 18 touchdowns on 60 catches hey that was your senior year I was like man I'm trying to get me some easy. Oh. And there's some good numbers there, bro.

Well, I was trying to get me some, oh, man. Oh, so I had what? One, two, three. Like, three of my first five games, I had five. I had 200 yards in a game. I went from, like, 150. I went from 221, 154, 209, or no,

202, 204. I was cooking! And Coach was pulling me out. I said, oh, man. Hell, I thought he was playing for the other team. I said, you're coaching me or you coaching them? Hey,

those are good numbers now. Them video... Hey, you putting up video game numbers hold on I went I went like 9 10 11

12 games in a row I had at least 100 yards receiving. Touchdown, had a touchdown in like 19 straight games, Ocho. That's difficult to do on any level because at some point, coordinators got to pay attention. Listen, if they're going to beat us, it ain't going to be number two. I tell you that much. Well, somebody's going to be wide open. Because if you that much. Well, somebody's going to be wide open

because if you put two on me, I'm going to jump over the top of them and catch it. Two ain't going to do it to me. Man, you ain't had no bounce like that, man. Come on, man. We took the bus everywhere. So when we get there, we have our helmets

and shoulder pads in our hands, and so we just have our cut-off shirts. You know who got off the bus first. Ocho. Ocho. I've been up back to that sun, so I'm good. I'm just color right here, Ocho. I'm coming. Hey, I'm dumb, Ocho.

I am dumb. Oh, man. What? Yeah. Hey, you see them. Look, they pointing. That's him. That's Sharp.

That's that number two. That's him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's me. You going to get it. You going to get it. Man, I'm the best thing going right now. I'm better than the Cosby show.

Watch me. Oh, I was cooking on you. I was cooking back then. Yeah, I got to find me some film on this. Oh, I was cooking. Oh, Foe Valley. You got some VHS film? I get to see you boy Howard going deep on this. Oh, I'm cooking. Oh, Fulton Valley. You got some VHS film? I get you.

I got to see this. I got to see the highlights. There it is. Hey. There it is. That's y'all for another one. I'm cooking them. I got to see this.

Chador now tops the race for the first quarterback drafted. ESPN polled 20 NFL scouts and executives who evaluate college players to see where they stood on the top quarterback in 2025 NFL draft. The variance of the approved telling. Shador got nine votes. Carson Beck got five votes. Jalen Milador got nine votes. Carson Beck got five votes. Jalen Milrow got four votes. Cam Ward got one vote.

Quinn Ewers got one vote. Ocho, do you think Shador will be the first quarterback selected? Absolutely. Absolutely, he's going to be the first quarterback selected. The unfortunate situation about him being the first quarterback selected is the situation that he's going to be the first quarterback selected. The unfortunate situation about him being the first quarterback selected

is the situation that he's going into. That's it. That's all I'm worried about. I don't want it to be another incident like that of Bryce Young and what was going on with him in Carolina. I hope wherever Shador does go, they have pieces that are already in place and around them. And if they don't, I

would love to know their long-term, short-term goals and putting the pieces around them to make sure he's able to be a successful quarterback at the next level. Well, Shador has had a productive year. He's led a miraculous comeback against Baylor. He's thrown 14 touchdowns with three interceptions. He's number six nationally in

passing yards, playing on the longtime NFL offensive court, Pat Shurmur, which has led to evolution of more than NFL-style offense. See, this is what I love about time. Let me go get somebody that's going to get my son ready that can play and coach him a pro-style offense, get him ready to play a pro-style game. There are videos going around talking to Mark Davis. Shador

was on a bye week. He was at the Aces game last night. The Aces won. Congratulations. My girl Kelsey Plum, Asia Wilson. Man, did you see that rapper Brown pass by Chelsea Gray? How she had that thing? I take that with you, Asia. They played really well.

Tiffany Hayes did an unbelievable job. Jackie Young, they won. But he was at the game. And Mark Davis was talking with Shador at the Aces game last night, said, who knows? You might be home now. Hey, it sound good. I like it.

I like it. But you know how owners are. They're going to say anything. They're going to say anything until you say your dream owners are. They're going to say anything. They're going to say anything until you say your dream, man. They're going to say your dream. It might not be the Raiders that had that first pick, but they might because they do need a quarterback.

Ain't no telling how high they'll jump in the draft to go get him. Right. Well, ain't no telling. He's going to say, well, just tell me where y'all picking at. I'll let you know. Because like if Dan did, they call it Dan into the Giants. I think Ty told a story. He's like, the Giants want to do an interview with Ty at the Combine.

Oh, he's like, for what? Yeah, he's like, hold on. Where y'all picking? We picking 13. He said, I ain't going to be there. I ain't going to be there. Man, Ty is stupid, man. It got him and walked out. Hey, that's a stupid it got up and walked down hey that's a good one

that is a good one man like I said man people don't realize how special Ty was I know y'all get y'all y'all watch him and you see some highlights of him and you hear him talk I don't do you no justice no

because you need to see the speed you need to see because I think a lot of times I don't do I don't do you no justice you don't do him no justice no footage don't because you need to see the speed you need to see because I think a lot of times because the brashness it superseded his talent if you could imagine that

and he was talented beyond talented but boy that Joker there man real deal the volume I'm Michael Kasson That joke with AirMaker. Real deal. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures, and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators, shaping what's next.

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