Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Eagles BEATING Cowboys: Jalen Carter EJECTED for spitting on Dak, CeeDee Lamb DROPS 4 balls?!

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to NFL Kickoff weekend commencing with Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles taking on Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys, Jalen Carter gets ejected for spitting on Dak Prescott and Jalen Hurts runs all over the Cowboys in their first win & much more! 04:40 - Eagles Def. Cowboys in NFL Opener32:25 - Jalen Carter ejected for spitting on Dak Prescott49:00 - Are You Impressed with Jalen Hurts? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's wide receiver number one. Not in this game. Not in that game. Dak threw it. They had a quarters beat his own, Ocho. They gobbled him up. They ran the slot. He gobbled up the safety.

Corners playing outside leverage. C.D. goes to the post. God. He's hurt. That just walked. That's a handoff. That's what we call. What a walk is doing, that?

That's a long handoff. Drop it in the bucket. C.D. said, no, I don't want it, that you take it throw it back at it came back later threw him another one up the rail got a go by the old choke i don't know why diving like you doing an s t plunge you ain't diving the pool just run up he dove purposely just because of safety was coming so to avoid to avoid getting hit and being able to make the catch i'm a dive for this one bring it in um i don't know what happened tonight i don't know what happened tonight cd had a chance to win the game for the

cowboys that's the way the game should have ended as great as the game was before the lightened delay, with them both, with both teams going up and down the field and scoring back to back, listen, the Cowboys should have sealed the deal. He had, but it was three big plays, right? It was three. Well, I counted three drops, but somebody said, uh, uh, tweeted at me and say, no, he had four drops, but I know I count, I counted three because I know I counted one in the second quarter that he had one and it went right through his hand.

He almost got it picked. As a matter of fact, two of the three, two of the four drops almost got picked and probably You should have been big. But you're right, you're right, Joe. CD being the player that he is. You got the hatos, you got the hatos, especially being what we consider you to be. When we talk about the top five receivers in the NFL,

those are the kind of kids that you make. Matter of fact, the money that you do make is the reason you make that kind of money for opportunities in situations like that. They expect you to make those. So, I mean, it's unfortunate. CD's going to have to get back to the drawing board. And you know what to do.

You've had games like that. big game view drop important plays that can change the magnitude of a game you know and it's moments like that that determines wins and losses yeah and it's about no one play no it's not one play it was four plays i counted three and and and and three on would have been first down though chole the last one ended to get you basically ended the game because that was on fourth down but he had to post i mean brian shantammer had the perfect play They called on. They're playing quarters coverage. They got the slide to eat up the safety. The corner is playing outside leverage on CD. CD runs a post. That can't throw it any better. That's what we call walking to him. He walks. That's a long handoff. That's how perfect the ball was thrown. He threw it. The other one that he dropped that he laid out for, Ocho. You know, when you're unsure your hands, you do a lot of diving because you're going to catch it with your body, Ocho. You're supposed to run up under the thing. You're supposed to run up under that thing. You're supposed to run up under that thing. See, that's CD Lamb. C.D. Lams for the run up under that face.

Ooh, damn, thank you do handed it. You're having me another one. A lot of time. There are times that you have to dive, but I don't believe CD needed to die for that ball, with you. Watching it, playing the player to receive a position, you play to receive a position.

I don't believe you needed to die for that. Listen, I think we were trying to protect itself, and I gave my, based on what I saw, okay, why he did die. Yeah. I'm a dive and catch it because I know the safety is coming. I'm going to avoid the collision. by jumping forward and being able to cover myself up and protect myself

by making the catch, by diving, obviously things that work out. Those are plays that we expect, that we all expect, people watching whether you're a Cowboys fan or not, you expect C.D. Lamb to make, because those two catches, those two big catches on, change the trajectory of the game. Yeah, for sure. And the Cowboys have a turnover, too, Ocho. You remember they had a turnover also.

They was down, they was down in what, like the 10-yard? line and the guy on with the ball right back running back yes sir yes yes that was um that was sanders mild sanders miles sanders first of all i thought mild sanders was faster than that ain't no way a linebacker supposed to catch a running back i don't give a damn who the linebacker is you got to remember now we talk we talk about linebackers that running four four four five now Zach brawn don't run no four four four five that's mile sanders So what linebacker, what linebacker you know catching or Derek Henry? Which one catching Sequin?

Which one catching Chris McCaffrey? Yeah, but see, see, hey, you can't let no running back. You can't let no linebacker. Oh, and look where he came from. Just look at the, look at the running backs you just named. You named your tier one running backs. You name your tier one running. Go back and look, go back and look where, and see what Zach Braun came from.

And you tell me if he's supposed to run Miles Sanders down. And what made it even more agree? he just if he tried to punch the ball out first he missed that say damn I couldn't punch it out now let me tackle him that bro you cannot let him oh Joe in a a situation like that that's a breakaway because you broke the initial line safety takes a horrible angle corner if don't know corner of like a blind dog in a meet hot time which way did he go which way did he go so he didn't know anything and now he got I'll hit my head on the goal absolutely you suppose I don't I don't think

mouse in is not one of those burners like that he's not not a Chris Johnson. You know, he's not, he's not a Jamir Gibbs. He's not going to get out. And even with the pursuit, I'm going to outrun everybody. He, well, hell, he ran like Freddie Gills. You're talking about Jemir Gills. Hell, I took, I took Freddie Gives on that one. Hell, I think he could have made it there. Chat, y'all go back and look at that play. And tell me, look at where Braun came from. And you tell me, if he was supposed to run Miles Sanders down. Oh, Joe, he's on the other side. Hey, oh, hey, I can see. You have a, you ever, listen, oh, you ran track, didn't you? Yes, I did. Let me tell you the

feeling Miles Sanders had. You ever ran that goddamn four hundred? I did. I was going to my relay team. I ran open for it. You come off that third curve and that monkey jump on your back and you try everything. That, if that, that last one did, Ocho, you got to come up out there. That last one tier, you got to come up out there. That last one 10, you got to come up out of it. You know that, you know that feeling? Yeah. But like the thing is, Ocho, look, I understand if the guy is pursuing, that means he got an

anger, I angle, excuse me, but this guy was a chaser. He chased him down. He didn't have no angle. He read him. I'm like, what the hell? I was like, I like what I saw from the Cowboys offensively. Defensively, I'm still concerned, Ocho, because if you go back and look, when they came, when they came out of the lightning time out, the delay, if you notice, Eberflus did something

that he didn't do early in the game, which was blitz. Oh, he blitzed, too. He brought, he brought a digs, he bought a corner, and then he bought a slot. So he bought a cat and a slot blitz because he saw he couldn't get there with just four. And when they got a minimal pressure, they let him, you can't give up. lanes to got a mobile quarterback every time i'm like dude what are y'all doing but that and that's not what iber flus like to play cover two he'd like to keep everything in front of him he doesn't want to sacrifice his back end but he had no choice because those hey you got the number one rated left

tackle you got the number one rated right tackle so you ain't getting nothing now my allotted did get lazy on one play and he stayed too too long and i don't i don't remember 41's name but he allowed him to get some pressure. But Lane Johnson was, Lane Johnson was doing it. Like, hey, he was doing this thing tonight. Dickerson did go out, so that's a situation that bears watching.

But I told you, Ocho, I had some concerns because the Eagles lost their coordinator. And the guy that they got calling plays now is never called plays. So I don't give a damn who your personnel is. The likelihood of somebody that's never called plays come in and been dealing

is probably not going to happen. Now, you mean to tell me, you go 30, 45, 56 minutes before you give A.J. Brown a target. Listen, I tweeted, I tweeted that. I think there were nine minutes into the second quarter. And the first thing I said was, well, can we get A.J. Brown involved, please. There's no need. There's no need for A.J. to have to be reading that book called Silence on the sideline again. There's no need for that.

How do you go into a game in week one and you pay A.J. Brown, what, 28, 28 million? No, AJ get like 33. 33 million and he doesn't have a target. How is he not a part of the game plan? I understand the Eagles have a way of doing things. Matter of fact, the way the Eagles do do things that went and won a Super Bowl

by doing things the way they do them. But how do you not get your number one target, your number one receiver involved into the game early? It doesn't have to be anything extravagant. It could be a smoke route. It could be a quick hit. It could be a quick out. You know, something just to get him

just to get him acclimated and make him feel like he's a part of the, a part of the game plan. And it didn't see a whole lot of separation, what, the fourth quarter? Yeah. I didn't see a whole lot of, I didn't see a whole lot of separation either, Ocho. To go back when they were showing, when they would show, you know, sort of a different angle, it's not like,

it's not like there was a whole lot of separation. It's a Zach Bond, B-A-U-N, B-A-U-N, B-A-U-N, I was saying B-B-A-U-N. How do you pronounce it? B-A-U-N. I thought it was brought you in. All I know is that he chased down Miles Sanders and then the very next play, they pummel the ball. So he saved the touchdown.

Now, you look at the difference. See, that's one guy that, that sometimes, oh, somebody else will make that play. He took it upon himself. I ain't worried about nobody. I'm going to go make the damn play. And sometimes we get that on a team because football is the ultimate. team game. Man, Ocho going to make the play. Nah, you go make the play.

Bond. Yeah, B and U.N. Don, bond. Bon. Okay. But it's a I thought the game was really was, was, it wasn't, I mean, there was no defense in the first half. Let me take that back.

If you like offense, this game was the game for you in the first half. But when that delay happened, Ocho, and that's hard. That is very hard to take that kind of And I could, Ocho, you just came out of delay. You just came out of a half? And then so now you're like, okay, I'm good to go.

I'm good to go. And they blow it. And now, hey, you back for a delay for another 45 minutes. So it's hard to tune back up after you turn down and the tune back, you know, turned down again and get back going. So the game, the game, the second half was not as interesting as the, as the first half. The first half was phenomenal for it to be a week one game. it was promoted the way it was advertised it lived up to just that it lived up to just that and i got

i got a question for you too i feel with micha parsons being out and i think micha parsons not being there if micha was there i think he takes away some of those scrambling some of those where where people weren't disciplined staying in their lanes so i think some of that pressure there was really no pressure on on brother jama hurts for most of the night how do you feel no the Cowboys did in the run game that Jerry claimed they improved on since getting rid of Michael Parsons. Well, they gave up 38 for 158. So that's about four carry. That's about four carry. That's not big. They did a great, they did a great job on St. Juan, 18 for 60. They didn't let him hit. They didn't let him go crazy. He had a nice TD run. The TD run was really, really nice.

Jalen Hertz was the only one that really hurt him with his legs. Those two touchdowns because people got the gap responsibility they got out of their lanes he found the lane the thing that you don't want to let a mobile quarterback do is scramble to his dominant hand well he's a right hand the quarterback and the first touchdown you let him get outside to his dominant hand second one uh you know you just got collapsed down and then he takes out the back door so give jaylor hurts credit for that uh Dallas is going to have to be there's not a time you're going to have to well look you got jane daniels in that division russ can run but russ ain't ain't Jalen Hertz.

He's not Jane Daniels. But looking at this game, Ocho, I think Dallas is going to be fine. I don't want to make too much about it because I think Dallas's offense is going to be fine. The question that I have is that are they going to be able to generate enough pressure? That's the question that I have, Ocho. Now, everybody ain't got an offensive line like Philly now. No, which is right.

And the thing that Philly was able to do is that they were able to stay, look, they didn't get down. to make that the force Dallas couldn't force them to just throw, throw, throw. Because we still could run just enough because, you know, it was 7-0 and 7-7 and then, you know, the score was what it was. So it was never a situation where the Eagles had to get out of character. Now, if you have to get out of character and you're not able to run the ball to make those guys like, well, they can run it, where you're going to have a problem.

And the thing is that you've got to give Iberflue's credit because you play cover two, you've got to run a team out of cover two. And that's why there was nothing there. Because that's what Iberfus like to play. You go back and study him at Indy. You go back and study him with the Bears. That's the defense that he loves to play. And so, you know, like I said, I'm not overly concerned,

but I'm cautious about the Eagles because this is the first year, this is the first year play caller. And the expectations are so high because you're coming off a Super Bowl. You got the offensive player of the year. You bring your basically all your offensive guys back. Now you did lose a lot of guys on defense. defense. Now, and what we're going to get into like before the game even started. Ocho, according to the next gen stat, Zach Bond,

uh, reached the top speed of 20.6,8 to make a TD save and tackle. Miles Sanders was 19.2.9. I told you. You got you. That's the fastest play from scrimmage of his career. Yeah. I told you, I don't know what he got. I don't know what he ran. I don't know what he ran to the combine, but I do understand that monkey jumped on Miles Sanders back. I don't know if Miles Sanis has ever been a blazer.

Well, he's got to be dealing. A player that we looked or viewed as a burning that can hit his head off the goalpost from anyone on the field. I don't think we've ever viewed him like that. And brother, brother, Brother Bond is fast, obviously. And then that's where the game

comes. Zach, Zach Bond ran a four, six, five. Now, that's when he's coming out. he's looking for a job guys i'm gonna get i'm got my best suit on i got my best polo shirt i got my best tie and my best black shoes you think he running you think he running that time right now six years than the league exactly you know that football right but that just don't let me say something football speed and in 40 yard dash speed completely different you know who else ran a four six and never got caught the greatest receiver of all time you know you know

who else ran ran a four five and never got caught four six four five same thing you you knew else you're on the four five of the combine but hell he was lightning quick and never got caught either yeah that he wanted that ocho that's that's just like man i can't let i can't because and first of all ocho normally four six you ain't even like man that's a running back hey at a part to say bad to you he was had he used to work for the state he was state trooper say man he had his car parked oh Joe say car went past him so he probably doing 140 so he he said forget it all he had to do is a radio and call ahead. Zach Brown could easily did that right he could have easily did that Ocho and nobody would

have been upset but something inside see that That's the difference between winning and losing ballgame. You see the effort. Now, if I'm the Eagles, if I'm Siriani, I'm pulling that on the loop. This is the effort. This is who we are. If we want to get back to where we want to be, this is the type of effort I need from everybody.

No excuses allowed. Job got to get done. that was that was as impressive because the very next play ocho who gave they got a fumble you see it's funny too on that fumbles got damn mild sanders coming through the whole the first thing quarter i mean quarterback your first thing running back do is they put both hands on the ball he had hands on the ball and it's still it's still got a better there you got a better hey sometimes ocho the perfect hit mm-hmm and nothing you can do man And nothing you can do.

Look, watching AJ Brown, the last couple of years, you know, I followed a little bit in Tennessee, but we did, Tennessee was really not on our radar like that. But since the Eagles, he's probably happy they won, but he's seen the got to be. You know what's going. You, you know what's going on. Oh, Joe, I don't win a hope. I practiced all summer long. I did all this training camp, these OTA, these mini camp for this.

Hold on, what do you have? Hold on. One catch for eight yards. They had my dog out there doing cardio on. Now, listen, I will say this. I will say this. Some of the plays where Jalen Hurst was going to A.J. Brown, when he condensed the spitz, he was running.

What do you call it the dig, the 12-yard dig, the little short one? Yeah. Yeah, I saw, you still call it a dig? I thought they had some different, different. Anyway, he was trying to go to A.J. Safety came down, been on it right away. he had to come up off of it. There were a few times where Jalen Hurts was going to him,

but pressure got in the way, D-Lyman got in the way, and Jalen had to get up out of there. So the times he wasn't going to throw on the ball, he couldn't get it to him. I will say that, but the fact that still remains, even still,

one goddamn catch in the fourth quarter, come on now. Come on now. Ocho, if a team is going to play, you cover two, you've got to run them out of it. Because the thing was, you look at it when he's at his best when he can play pinch and catch it's single high safety they're working on one-on-one devontes one-a-j's run-on-one xy-mz you look at the one he dropped

in the bucket the dockson with perfect coverage they got him in quarter playing outside leverage he dropped it in the bucket they couldn't run them out they couldn't run them out of cover two even if they do want to play cover two boom okay y'all want to go in cover two boom we're going condes the spitz put put him in motion do spacing find the hole find the zone find the zone It's simple. If you really want to get, if you really want to get your play of the ball, there are so many things you can do with him offensively.

There's so many. I want to give him the ball, Ocho, but I'm not going to jump my office to get him the ball. I'm not going to go out. See, that's what we got to be careful of, Ocho. Trying to get him to ball, getting outside of our offense. Because most offenses are at their best

when it's flowing, when it's fluid. And I'm not trying. trying to force you the ball. Pick, if you go look at, look at, Pickens had three. I mean, Ferguson had five, have, what do you have? CD Lamb had 13 targets. George Pickens had four targets.

Ferguson had six targets. So only Lamb should be pleased with the amount of targets that he got. But he should have had another four catches or she should have had 11 for about a buck 65, maybe a point eight. No, no, no, no. This game, brother, C.D.

No, I'm talking about C.D. Lamb. This game, C.D. Lambs should add about $200. Okay. Opening night, Thursday night, based on what I saw the night, Cid Lambs should left that game, for one, with a W. Two, with a 200-yard game. Easy to start the season off. Eve.

Yep. I tell you what, Ocho, I show hope the Eagles don't regret, letting Slate go. Hey. Because, boy, they was having this. He was having their way with a Dory Jackson now. You know, I wouldn't, nine-year veteran. He's been playing long enough in Tennessee, in New York with the Giants.

He has enough experience. Once he gets settled in, Big Vangelo's understands what he can and what he cannot do, making sure whatever you need to hide, whatever weaknesses he may have at the defensive back position, you're going to have to be able to hide that. You're going to have to be able to hide that until he gets his confidence back if he's lost it. You got to. because if there was one week if there if there's one week link that pops out on film especially like tonight's game what you think every other team going to do you're

going to attack it every time they're going to attack it every time i'm going to him i'm going to him i what you know for real though that's what i'm doing absolutely absolutely absolutely hey oh it's it's kind of like when when eli apple wherever eli apple was the ball found and did the docho it didn't matter where he was. He could play the slot. He could play the right corner. He could play the left corner. He could play the nickel. It didn't dime. It did not matter. All I know, if he lined up on me, the ball coming to me. Whoever he lined up all on, that's what the ball was finding. The ball's going to find him. So Adori Jackson, until he fixed that, Bob will find him. I think he's going to be okay. He's made many, many, many of plays.

And once he gets acclimated in that defense, Big Benjillo understands what he can and can't do with the dory, when to have him free, when to have him with help, when to having the man, whatever he does best, they'll figure it out. Obviously, it's only week one. But right now, when you watch film on this Eagles Cowboy game, I'm not sure who the Eagles play next. But the first thing you'll say, oh, when you look at defense,

okay, we got to find the fish. I'm looking for him, too. You got to find the fish. Who is the fish? Who is the weakling that we're going to act? And I'm baiting. And guess what, Ocho? I'm baiting. I got some good, I got some good chum. Are you damn right? I'm looking, I'm looking for it.

Listen, I'm just happy football season's back. I am too Ocho. And the thing is, if you think about it, Ocho, Vic Fangio likes to play, he likes to play nickel defense. If you notice, he liked to play Cooper Jeanne in the slot. He loved to play nickel. He loved to play single, he loved to play too deep because he believed, I will keep everything in front of you. I got pressure. Now, and we're going to talk about this in a little bit about Jalen Carter and I don't know what the hell he was thinking. But in

and that's in this situation I'm a little concerned the Eagles and their inability to generate pressure. Yeah. Yeah. But you lost a lot too. Didn't they have a

who that's the they lost sweat? They lost their loss. They lost, yeah, they lost Slay let Slay go. One of the D-Lyman, big D-Lyman got paid. Two of the D-Lyman got paid.

Brandon. So, Graham retired. And so the thing is Ocho is that, you know, oh, you keep saying next man up, next man up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ain't no next man. And you can't keep going three, four men.

They're talking about, oh, yeah, you got it, bro. Bro, there's a reason why you at the back of the bus. Oh, they got the chief. next week, Coachell. We got the Chief next week. CD was officially credited with four drops. Four drops, four, four, four, four, that ain't good. CD, you know, he's better than that.

He'll go back, look at the tape. Maybe that's how he does it. I don't know what's his thought process or how he gets ready for the next game. He'll go back because he ran great routes. He was open. He just has to make those catches. He's that. he very he's he wears 88 for a reason oh yeah two of the guys just worn 88's in the pro football

hall of fame that's what they expect of cd and those guys made those plays when the opportunity presented itself i'm not saying he's not going to have a drop that that's i mean hey you're going to have a drop some games you go you catch everything some games you go you know you have a drop not like this you can't have four you can't have four and you can't have he had two big, I mean, back-to-back drives, Ocho. Yeah. He's gonna be right on. Matter of fact, have you ever had a game like that before? I'm trying to think, Ocho. No, not where, not where I've had that many drops. Now, I've had a game where I had D drop. You know what I'm saying? But I haven't had a game where I

had, you know, three, four, or five, no, four or five drop. No, I haven't had a game like that. But I've had a game just like that like CD did against the Buffalo Bills. you talk about one of the worst feelings ever for one you don't get a drop ball right but when you get when you get the two and three and your teammates start looking at you well ain't you supposed to be him you are you okay you okay hey you get them you get them sharp you get them next time man please hey hey oh joe that's what you said after the first drop here we are at three or four nine it's next it's the next that's why i love playing with tj that's why i love playing with tj that's why i love with T.O. Because those are the type of individuals, even though your teammates, or they don't get

to you wrong. All that always going to be all right. Nah, TJ and T.O., man, what did you do? We will, we'll, we'll let that, we're going to let that R-A-W. We'll let that will slide with Joe. They let the first slide. I get. No, no, I'm saying. We let that first R-A-W slide. But that's all you get for this week now. So when we come back, when we come back on Friday, Saturday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, ain't no more getting into you wrong. Oh, pause, pause, pause, pause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We let that one.

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in Carter's direction, smiled and laughed. Carter then walked towards the Cowboys huddle, leaning the two exchanging words, and Carter spit on that. NFL needed suspended. One game? One game. Yeah, that's feasible.

I think it's feasible. Uncle, you can't do that. I don't care. You can talk trash. You can say what you want to say. You can say whatever you want to say. For one, you inside they huddle. You cross the ball inside they huddle.

You know, go at it with whatever. Listen, you're already intimidating. You're already top three at your position in the NFL. There's no more, there's nothing you can say or do that you haven't already put on film. We need to be going at it with that. We understand what the damage you were going to do in this game. You know, to go out there and spin on somebody on. that's that's the worst thing that you can do to anybody on that's the worst thing you can do to

anybody spitting on someone is uncalled for spitting on someone is we have to fight no matter what at a funeral we at church we in the street speeding is off limits that's something you just you just i'm surprised that was able to restrain himself i understand he'll quarterback he'll quarterback. And anything that I do, you know, first of all, I swing on them. I hurt my hand. I need this to throw the football. They don't swing on. I mean, I'm just, just, just something. There is nobody you can find in the chat. If you switch, if you switch, what if that was you on? What you would have did? J. LeCardis spit on you right there in the middle of the field. I'm going to get thrown out the game. I don't think there's any other player. And I think because

that is a quarterback, he had to react the way he did. It's commendable. Because you don't expect. Yeah, Chad, stop. Stop. He did, Dad did not spit on him. Y'all need to stop. Chad, Chad, y'all need to chat. Chat, you all need to chat.

Stop with this. Oh, Dak, Dak spit at him. Dax spit on the ground. That was in his huddle. Yeah, he, he, did y'all see where that was? Y'all make it seem like that walked up to him, spit on the ground right in front of his shoes. Did you see where that was?

He walked towards that and spit on him. Chad, stop this. You can't, y'all tried to conflate. Well, he did this, so that's why he did that. No, it's not the same chat. And you know it. He got baited. He got cost himself, and he's probably going to get suspended the game.

You do these kind of antics where you're not a good enough of a player. He's too good of a player. He doesn't need to do shenanigans. He don't need to do this, Ocho, he's that good. He's an all pro. He's a pro bowl player. He doesn't need to do any of that. now he can just let his play speak for himself which i know it was going to do do you don't do you

do you do understand he's top three at his position yes i realize how good it could be i don't what is he doing i don't understand like you you're in the conversation with chris jones and and and and and jeffrey simmons like you or him yes i don't get it because here's the thing this is how i know he doesn't know how good he is because he does stuff like this. Aaron Donald, Reggie White, the great, they didn't have to do nothing like this. They say, you know what I'm going to do? I get you. Okay, you want to wink at me that? You want to spit? Yeah. I get you. You do. That's why quarterbacks don't do much. They don't say anything because the guy they talking to could come over there and literally break their damn neck.

Every time. I don't want to piss you off. Hey, hey, good. That's, look at what Brady always say. Good hit. Great job. Hey, you're a heck of a player. He always butted them up. I'm going to try to stay on the good side. Jalen, you didn't have to do that, bro. I don't know. Bro, bro, you weren't raised like that. You weren't raised like that, man. And the only thing is you were in a structured environment like the NFL.

Bro, you mess around and dudes and something like that in the streets. And, bro, you get hurt. Bro, don't do that. You're too good of a player to do that. Why would you spend, I'm talking about, think about the Ocho, do you think about, remember to do something like that? You don't thought about that before. You know, I mean, that's the thing that come to your mind.

You walk up to the man and spit on the man. You know, hey, like, Unk, have you chat? Chat, just, I want you all to actually visualize this. We talk about week one. This is the NFL. Before the game even starts, the best player on defense gets thrown out the game before it even starts for actually spitting. Not a punch, not a shove.

not a not a scrum not an altercation spitting one of the worst things you can do to someone like when you're actually angry like and first of all Ocho as black men do you know like the civil rights that's what happened yeah yeah yeah you get spit on you got the whole got the got the water holes the dogs the dogs sick donors you got got hit upside the head with the You would, I mean, you would do that to another, first of all, you shouldn't do that to another. At all, period. But you do that, you would do that. Of all the things you could do, say, you know what?

I'm gonna get 40 snaps. I get a chance, I get your ass back. I get you back. Don't worry about that. I get you. I'm gonna get you. Just so you know, I'm gonna get you. Now, if he get him and he, hey, he pile drives him, I ain't got no problem.

I bet you won't do that. I bet you won't spin on the ground no moment. And the funny. Got no problem. Get him back. But don't do that, Jalen. You too good of a player to ever do that. If they suspend him for a game,

Ocho, what's the appeal? What are we appealing? You can't appeal at. You can't. Even if you do, it's going to be uphill. You're not going to win that much. I already know, I already know what the NFL office is going to do. I already know if Roger Gatiel is going to do.

I already know what those who hand down the disciplines are going to do. They're going to suspend up for one game. Absolutely. In fact, he's going to get fined as well along with that. Yeah. What is what the the final bill is his game change because you'll miss a game. Bingo.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Ocho. What makes this even more egregious is open at night, Thursday night. You're the defending champs. everybody watching this game and that's what you do hey he was fun to have a hell of a game too i can feel it and it's okay to talk trash too how you how you think i'm mad at that

and that's what i did for folks well for 11th matter fact the first couple years i ain't really do no talking i wouldn't i ain't no sense to talk of you on specialty but here you talking The funny thing about it is I like Jalen Carter talking trash. I like Jalen Carter setting the tone for everybody else on that defense by doing what he was doing before the game started. I just don't like the spitting part. I don't like that part. But Jalen Carter setting a tone like that,

getting in Dax face, officer lineman right there. Did you notice not one officer lineman turned around and say anything? What does that tell you? Not one officer lineman turned around and say anything and they can hear him talking trash to their quarterback. That tells you how they view him as a player. Me, look, I don't know how, like I said,

but our offensive linemen, they get you. They get you. But see, you can't block like what we could cut block and roll block. Are you engaged in people coming? No, no, well, you can't. That's a chop block. You can't do that. That's the Jerry Ball rule.

That messed up Jay Ball. a Detroit line nose guard. He got high, low, guy posted him, guy went right into his knee and blew his knee out. So you can't do, you can't do that, Ocho.

But what we could do, we cockroats you. We have your heels up in the air. Oh, we have your heels up in the air. And we're going to, we're going to cut you and cut you. Huh? Oh, we have your cockroats.

Your heels go be up in there. Hey, hey, that's the, that thing, like synchronized, like synchronized women. You watch all of us cut. We just, the whole backside just fall down. Oh, baby. I ain't never heard that before.

Oh, we get you. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's the thing. Oh, that's talking. I don't care about all that. You got to play this game, though. Now remember, remember what you said. Hey, the funny thing about it is everything he said he can back up.

He just went a little too far with it on. Just a little too far. That's unacceptable. I'm not, I'm not sure. anybody, anybody who would be okay with what happened, even if that did spit towards the ground, you know how the cowboys do, but when you get ready to do

what do you call a little faceoff they used to do in the old Westerns? Oh, you're talking about, yeah, you talk about, I forgot what they called that. You're talking about three paces and turn around? A duel. The first thing they do, they spit off to the side. before they draw.

I mean, it was one of those. Down of the flow, which was the retaliation and what them saw. Oh, Joe. Let's see, I don't know. Maybe it's a chat. Yes, Dax spit first.

But did Dax spit on Jalen Carter? That's what I need y'all to ask. Answer me this. Did Dax spit on Jalen Carter? It doesn't matter who spit first. Did he spit on Jalen Carter? If you can answer yes to that, then we can have a further discussion.

Other than that, what are you talking about? Yes. Yeah. He was wrong. It's okay to be wrong. Look, I understand if you're an Eagles fan, you're a Georgia Bulldog fan, you're a Jalen Carter's fan.

You can still be a fan of his and admit your player was wrong. It's okay. It is okay. my teammate did that i said my teammate was wrong by romo yes i said romo's wrong i said romo's my teammate i said but he's wrong in this situation i didn't know j j stokes i had practice against romo for this was 97 so i had played with romo 96 played 97 go against each other in training practice against each other but romo was wrong it's okay to say someone was wrong

and not try to make an excuse for his behavior. Oh, he shoved it. Man, stop. Stop. It's okay, chat. It's okay to be wrong. Your guy was wrong in this situation. And that baited him.

That's why LeBron's like, no, I don't get into it. It's like, what type of tradeoff is that? I get thrown out the game for yelling or saying something or pushing somebody and he gets thrown. thrown out unless it's Steph Curry or left is Kevin Durant I'm getting a third team of thrown out.

He's the eighth guy on the team. I'm at worst I've ever been is two. Most of my 22 year career, I've been won. So if I get thrown out unless that person is Kevin Durant, unless that person is Steph Curry,

unless that person is Kobe Brad or James Harden. what what hey it's not equal hey the funny thing about it on is even if i don't like you even if i don't like you and what i do like you if we arguing if we're going at it i still respect you enough to spit on you especially in especially in the game of that magnitude i ain't never been i ain't never been that mad don't you know i definitely don't get mad in the game i don't but i'm gonna talk my trash it's okay to talk your trash but the whole oh i i don't know i don't know hey listen yeah i i i ain't for that i i i ain't i ain't for that i just know you know

my grand my grandparents they look we've been in the south our whole life grow up my grandfather grew up in the south my grandmother grew up in the south his mom his dad all the and so i don't know maybe maybe southerner maybe oh cho maybe we look at it more serious, more harsh because of what transpired in the South during the time and that you know, spitting on somebody. But I, I haven't, that never even crosses my, that never even crossed my mind, Ocho, to spit on somebody. You spit on the ground. So if you tell me, you would rather spit on somebody on the ground, you're telling me I'm loading the ground. You're telling me at that point in time, the ground's not worth spitting on.

you are. It's just something about that. When I hear about somebody spit on or I see somebody, it just does something to me. It makes my skin crawl. It really does. It does something to me. Something just goes all over me.

Man, I just, I could, because I was, oh, Cho, because when I came down, I was like, because by the time I had to get some, do something, it's going to seven nothing. I'm like, well, damn, what Jail and Carter had? So I didn't get them off. I said, well, damn, where Jane O'Carter? I had, I didn't know, no.

I didn't see what happened? No. So I'm like, well, damn, where Jay McI'm like, I see the Eagle O'D? Oh, Joe. I'm looking out. I'm like, what damn? What, Jay McArthur?

He tired? I'm like, oh, I'm saying, he tired already. And then, I mean, the thing I see, I see on, like on Twitter, I'm like, huh? Yeah, man. I'm like, hold on. I'm like, so now I'm like,

well, where did he do this? So, Ocho, I'm Googling. I was like, because I want to know, like,

if he didn't even play in the game. He didn't even play a snap. Almost, almost did. Oh, my goodness. Jeez. Come on, Jail.

Jail, you better than that, bro. You better than that. I think for the simple fact, I think a game, he's going to get. get at least the game for the simple fact it's Thursday night it's opening NFL week and he did

that because also remember they're trying to like they try to stop because boy when we were talking it was it and shut up and please that don't even want you saying that now can't oh they throw a flag for that they they do a flag for taunting the night i'm like okay come on now oh oh cho man do you know how many N-word doesn't be said on the football field? They're not going to change that. I mean, not trying to control. They're going to throw a flag, but I'm saying, I'm like, boy. That's the way 98% of them talk out there when you're competing anyway.

That's just the way you talk. So now trying to control that in that structured environment when that's the way we go. I mean, that makes, that makes no sense. If that's the case, you're going to be throwing a flag every got there in play. Mm-hmm. but the Eagles lead lose their best defensive player before even takes a snap and then he looked sharp he looked surprised he looked I'll be also he literally thought he could do that and still playing the game I'm like what about come on you can read his mouth

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was talking to Tyler Booker had to spit when he uh when he did when he did jalen carter was close by Carter said you spit at me dach smile and said why would I spit at you and then we all know what Carter did yeah I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad they won the game I'm glad they won the game because they had they had not won the game yes would have been the reason why? Guess what it would have been the reason why that media outlets and pundits would have led with on why they didn't win? Because they didn't have, you know who, that force.

Right. According to the next gen stats, Jalen Hurt picked up a career high five first downs on nine scramble runs tonight, including the game clenching third down conversion, Ocho. He also scored both touchdowns on his scramble runs. Were you impressed by Jalen Hurts tonight? Absolutely. He did. Jay LaHurts picked up right where he left off last year.

The offense is structured to do what he does best. It's not aesthetically pleasing to those who love offensive firepower. Like a San Diego L.A. Chargers or like a Kansas City Chief Team or like a Cincinnati Bengal team. That's not the way they do things. But the way they do things, it fits the quarterback situation that they do have. This is why the discourse on Jalen Hertz being a top-by quarterback, this is where it comes from. This is where it comes from.

This is some of the things that Cam and Ryan Clark and Dan Olofsky, some of the other guys that went on about it is where it come from. But you said something very interesting, no, Cho. You know what you said? He's not asked to do what Joe Burrell, Patrick Mahomes, and those other quarterbacks are asked to do. So you can't. So if you ask Joe Burrow, to do what Jalen Hearst did, he wouldn't be a top five quarterback either.

Absolutely not. So how about we do whatever, they're going to help, whatever my quarterback, what is best suited for my quarterback to help our team win. That's exactly. He was 19 of 23,

a buck 52, no touchdowns, no turnovers. We got a clean game from it. He allowed us to extend downs. Okay, I can live with that because he allowed us to stay on the field. Now we get more chances to get to get, touchdown. He scrambled and got two touchdowns. That's his game. If you're looking to Jalen Hertz to go out there and have five games where he throws for 300 yards and three touchdowns,

that's not going to happen because that's not how their offense is set up. That's not how they built this team. Now, Joe Burrow might have that. Patrick Mahomes might have that. Justin Herbert might have that, but that's not how this team is built. So to ask him to be something to be Burrell, to be Mahomes, that's not what he's asked to do. That's not who he is. But can he can, if you say

well, Super Bowl, you see what the chief. The chief said, no, Sequan's not going to beat us. And then he picked him apart. Letting you know he can do both. Let you know he can do both. It might not be a high volume of passes

like the other three teams we name as examples. If I have to do, it, I can still do it. Yeah, but the likelihood of those guys getting five first downs with their legs, you're asking an awful lot, but then you don't play them like you play Jalen Hertz. And you don't play Jalen Hertz like you played them. So you have to be on your best behavior because Jalen Hertz can beat you with his legs. you know that

but I thought I thought he was a command of the offense he did a great job he threw it away when he needed to throw it away he didn't put the ball in harm's way he got two a tush push first downs the scrambling like I said he went out

the front side because they let him get to his dominant hand and then the next time they let him get out to the back side and he got a scrambling touchdown so yeah I thought he played really well tonight I thought he he had great command of the offense a different voice that's in his ear for the third time

in what three years he got a different voice third time it maybe three three four years he's got a different voice in his ear but i told you i thought this offense is going to struggle a little bit ocho for the simple fact they got a new offensive coordinator he's never called plays before killing more's call plays for very good offenses killing more is a damn good play call it remains to be seen if he's a great head coach but he can call some plays you know what's funny is i think the play call is going to be fine because it's all if your officer coordinator doesn't have ego if your officer coordinator doesn't have ego and understands what he can and can't call

based on your skill set and understanding that I can put the ball in Jalen Hurts' hands and understanding he's not going to turn it over. He's only going to do what we ask of him and nothing extra. Now when he needs to make something out of nothing, he can do that too.

But he's not going to be out there like Brett Farb. You know exactly what I mean. Oh, William Hillie. I think the problem is, this is his first time and you know what's the likelihood of a first time officer coordinator calling play for the very first time and his team going to the Super Bowl you have to have to have some trial and error you have to know you have to know what to call when to call it down in distance area to field you have to have some hardship you have to have some calluses

you know uh killing more it took a while before he developed a rhythm what to call it because oh show you call the play you already thinking okay this first down I'm already called that play. I'm looking at second down. Okay. Second of what? What is it going to be? Second to what?

Second of second to ten. Second of, you know, five to seven, second in three to five, second of one. I'm on to that plate. So I ain't really watching what's going on because I've got to think about the next play. And then I got to see how the game is being go, how the game is going. So it's just hard. And that's my concern. And plus, you know, they lost a lot.

They lost, that defense lost a lot of players, guys that were disrupted. that's what they miss guys that were that was disrupting. And based off what we saw tonight, not only did they lose guys that were disruptive up front, but they lost some important key factors on the back end too. And tonight, it looked kind of shaky on one side. It did. So they get to win.

And guess what? Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. But who play tomorrow? The Chargers and the Chiefs, huh? Charges and the Chiefs in Brazil. Brazil. Wait, well, what time the game come on in? Hold on.

What's the time difference in here, Brazil? Don't start me to lie. What's the time difference between here and Brazil? Starts at 5 o'clock. It's 8 o'clock your time, but it's 5 on the West Coast. 8 o'clock, my time, 5. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, that's good. I'm down here in Cincinnati, so I'm excited.

You know, you know, I'm going to, I'm down, I went to Bengals practice today. I went to walk through. Yeah, I said this, I talked with Zach for a little bit. Obviously, saw tea, saw tea and Chase and all them boys. Right. I was, after, after that, matter of fact, I talked to Duke Tobin, too. I told Duke he doing one hell of a job. I talked to Duke.

And I saw all the deepest align at E&O. little place down here on the banks. The whole Deve's line, all of them. Shemar Stewart, Trey Henderson, B.J. Hill. All them was in there. I guess sometimes you have position outings. Yeah, I like that. I like that.

Oh, boy, them boy is huge, what? And I think I've been away from the game so long when you get up. That's what it is. When you get up close on people, like that's that. Obviously, when we're playing, you're used to it. I don't like, God damn. Man, Samar Stewart wide, Trey Henderson, wide i'm like what the hell i feel the same listen i told b j hill i said well y'all boys enjoy it man

get your drink get your food i got y'all i got y'all man i went to the bathroom and left to the hotel man i went out of the back though i went at the back though i'm looking at what they ordering i'm like whoa whoa what is y'all doing i told that's how y'all eat i said you know what i thought to myself, let me see, Shamar Stewart, you just got paid. BJ here, you make it get money. Trey Henderson, you just got $14 million advance or pay raise. Y'all, y'all good on the bill. Man, I went to the bathroom and went out the side note, man.

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