Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Nebraska blowing out Deion Sanders & Colorado + Notre Dame upset

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Nebraska Cornhuskers beating Deion Sanders' Colorado Buffaloes 28-10, Number 3 ranked Texas taking down number 10 ranked Michigan at the Big House, Notre Dame being upset by Northern Illinois.03:10 - Show starts07:30 - Nebraska blows out Colorado33:10 - Norte Dame Upset40:40 - Texas beats Michigan48:30 - Syracuse beats Georgia Tech53:50 - Alabama survives USF(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We right on time, baby. We right on time. baby. We right on time. You can hear me? Yes, I hear you. I hear you. Listen, I know we're a little behind schedule, right? I was on my flight. I flew Spirit today

as you know from Miami to get to Chicago. I just want to save a little money. I've been doing this for about maybe 10, 15 years. I always have somebody pick me up when I'm flying into a city or a state where I feel safe, especially if it's a follower of mine. So I had a follower of mine pick me up. Name was Alex. He was really cool, really cool dude. And as soon as he opened the car door and he got out the car door to greet me, the car door locked by accident, the car door locked by accident. The car door locked by accident. So I would have been on time, but the fact that we had to wait for the tow truck and them to bring the Slim Jim was the reason for my delay

and getting to the hotel a little late. But I'm here now. Let me ask you a question. So when you go to ESPN, you have people pick you up from the airport? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you don't. When you do Inside the NFL, you have people pick you up from the airport? Yeah, at the beginning, yeah. No, you don't.

So I'm just trying to figure out why with your show would you choose to take that route when you don't take that route for ESPN and Inside NFL? But I do. I wasn't lying. I'm dead serious. When I fly into Philly, I have somebody pick me up from Philly. When I fly into New York, I have somebody pick me up from New York. I'm serious. Well, that ain't what they told me. I just talked to ESPN Travel. Hold on. Listen to me. Now, it's documented.

It's documented. I'm just telling you. All you have to do is just search my tweets. I've been doing it the past 15 years. I always do this. I'm not saying that. Yescho, I'm just telling you what they were told to me. All you have to do is just search my tweets. I've been doing it the past 15 years. I always do this. I'm not saying that. Yes, Ocho. Talk to me now.

Again. Ocho, this is part of your show. Right, right, right, right. Why would you run the risk of being late to your show? Well, I didn't want to be late. I just told you what happened. I would have been on time. But due to unfortunate circumstances of him locking the keys in his car,

which I documented, I was just a little late at one. Why don't you, oh, Joe, why don't you just, why don't you just have the people that you're working for? Just having them to book your car.

I don't like car service. I don't like car service. I don't like them people. They, they, they be, they be mean and they be bougie. I don't like,

you know, they be in suits and ties and shit. That don't make me comfortable. That don't make me comfortable. What makes me comfortable is like being able to sit down and talk. You want to be comfortable or you want to be professional? No, I want to be comfortable. I want to talk to

people that I can relate to. Yeah. But you heard the thing, Ocho. You say you want to be professional. You want to do ESPN. You want to do all these professional things. But you want to take a bootleg route. No, no i want to i want to remain my authentic self the same way i always been and do those things okay is that okay okay let me know how that work out for you colorado lost to nebraska 28 to 10 huskers dominated from start to finish jumped out to a 28

nothing lead last week prime coach prime told the home crowd, team was one step closer to reaching a bowl game. And he said in January, his team was definitely going to be a contender in the college football playoff. Saturday night, the second team, Colorado, did not, the second game, it did not look good. Either offensive line, either offense or

defensive line, played well. The running game still is non-existent. 22 carries, 16 yards. The Buffs in the second half, they did get on the scoreboard. They scored 10 points. They lose 28-10. Ocho, I don't know how much of this game you saw.

I saw it. Listen, honestly, I felt watching the offseason, watching the recruiting process, seeing some of the players that left and some of the players that were coming, my thoughts had completely changed on me thinking the Colorado bus was going to look a little different. Now, the important part for them in being able to compete with the schools that are better would be the interior, the offensive line and the defensive line. And after watching today's game, and from the beginning, from the start of the game,

when the Colorado Buffaloes were on offense, and number zero, whoever number zero was, remember the movie The Program? Remember the movie The Program and Lattimore? And to watch him dominate the offensive line like that it just it it it kind of reminded me of okay now we're right back at square one like we were last year it that that's what it reminded me of so the the things that i thought were fixed and the issues in order for Colorado to be able to compete at the highest level and contend, I think now we're right back at square one based off what I saw tonight. Offensively and defensively, there's no reason Nebraska, well, there is a reason Nebraska was able to run down the throat of the Colorado defense. Right down their throat.

Why? Because the interior, the defensive line, isn't stout enough to be able to compete with the better teams. So there's still issues that need to be fixed, and it's right there, the meat and potatoes, inside the interior. I agree.

I had concerns last week, and I told you I had concerns, that I I told you I had concerns that I saw some of the same things that I saw last year that caused me to be concerned and everybody oh it's one game you see how you speak bad about the black coaches no you see how I speak true now I see why

I see why politicians get elected because people like being lied to when I tell you the truth that Colorado can't run the football, just like they couldn't run it last year. They couldn't stop the run, just like they couldn't stop it last year. They couldn't protect your door, just like they couldn't last year. He's holding on to the ball too long, just like he did last year.

Oh, oh, how did you not look at that first game and see a lot of what happened last year how could you see it had not reared his head and i'm not saying that north dakota state that's a football team and we're going to talk about notre dame how they lost the north uh northern illinois and we see alabama was in a nip tuck ball game late in the fourth quarter and then blow it open so i'm not saying that but when you look at an FCS team and they're having success running the football, they're having success putting pressure on your quarterback,

what happens when you step up in level of competition? When you go and you face teams in the Big 12, what do you think they're going to do? Because they got legit D and O line. And that's a concern. That's a concern of mine coming into the season. And I'm still concerned. I have a question.

Now, from an offensive standpoint, I'm not a coach by no means, but I'm just saying based off what I've seen, and you say it's your door holding the ball a little too long. If you have an offensive line, excuse me, if you have a defensive line that is continuously sacking your quarterback and applying pressure the way they are, I'm just saying from what I saw, I think they should have went to the quick game a little bit more.

You know, stop spreading it out so wide, condense the formations, putting players in motion, having crossing routes so Shadur can get the ball out of his hands and find some of the rhythm in that way to get the passing game going instead of having him in shotgun or having him drop back or anything over five or seven step drop. Just hurry up and get the ball out fast and probably get a drive and try to get a drive going just to get the quarterback in rhythm with the receivers. But I mean, listen, I know Nebraska's good. I think they looked a little better. They looked a little better because Colorado wasn't able to make the adjustments

necessary to compete with them. Even if they players are a little better in the interior. I could be wrong. But, look, Nebraska is better um last year was matt rules first year so normally the second year you know you get the players that you really want because a lot of time you gotta you gotta keep some holdovers even though it's a transfer portal you can guys are gonna leave and some guys are gonna come but you need to get your guys in there the kind of guys that you want you know the offense the defense you know the type of player that you want so it normally takes you a year or two

to get your type players in there but the colorado went for it on fourth down and they lost y'all they lost yard on third down it was third and one now it's third and two and they lose again now it's fourth and now they get stopped they can't you 22 carries 16 yards and my thing is look i the offensive line isn't very good and i and they told us the offensive line was going to be better they told us the defensive line is going to be better they still can't uh consistently rush the quarterback ojo without sacrificing their back end and bringing extra people they can't stop the run consistently they get gashed hence they had 35 carries a buck 49 and two touchdowns the other team colorado had 22 carries 22 carries 16 yards when you can't run the football you can't stop the run you can't

pressure the quarterback you can't protect your quarterback tell me how you yeah i mean you can't you can't you can't out of everything you of everything you just named, you have to be good at at least three of them. At least three of them. You got to be good. So what is Colorado good at right now, Ocho? Let me be honest. We can have an honest conversation because nobody wants time to do well better than I do. Because I know him on a personal level.

And I know how much he's invested of his time. I know how much this means to him. So nobody wants him to do better than I do. But when you look at this, when you look at Colorado, and I need you to be objective because I know a lot of us in the chat, we want time to do well. We want Coach Prime to do well. Y' prime to do well y'all call him coach prime I call him time but we want him to do

well tell me one thing they're good at right now as of week two of based on what we saw I mean not not much honestly I mean they they have they have the tools they have the tools they they have the talent,

have the skill position, but where it matters most, and you know that. You know where it matters most in college. The interior. Your offensive line, your defensive line. If you can't stop the run, it starts up front. If you can't protect your quarterback, it starts up front. The skill position is where the money is.

And now we have that. We have that, you know, and we're being, I'm talking about we, they're being exposed. They're being exposed because they lack depth

and they lack, I hate you, I keep using the same context and using mean potatoes because that's the only thing I could think of that that's what it takes. You take some some hogs you need some hogs up front on both sides of the ball and that's where we're like that's what they're lacking you got to be able to look you got to be able to protect your quarterback and you got to be

able to pressure the quarterback and sometimes it's okay to throw the ball away it's okay to throw the ball away and make it second and ten it's okay it's okay to throw the ball away it's okay to throw the ball away and make it second and ten it's okay it's okay to throw the ball away and make it third and seven i know it's gonna look bad on your stats but look at this point in time there's nothing completion percentage is not somebody's not they're not going to elevate your door standards up or down because they're evaluating him said that's a smart play he didn't take a sack he didn't take an unnecessary hit by throwing the ball away late just throw the ball away just throw it away that's okay i'm not if i'm looking at your door i'm looking at how well he processes information i'm looking at how well he goes from

one to two to three if possible check down throw the ball away that's what i'm looking at oh he got a 75 completion percentage versus a 65%. Okay. Where's the 10% drop off? Oh, that was a good throw away right there, Ocho. Aborted the sack. Aborted the loss. Kept him in field goal range.

I'm processing the entirety of the game. I'm not looking at no completion percentage because I'm not going to elevate him or downgrade him based on that. I will elevate or downgrade him based on the decisions that he make. And what I can say, he should have known better than to take that sack. He should have thrown that ball away. He knew better than

to throw it. It's a zone coverage. With that pink six, first of all, the corner doesn't sink because there's nobody going deep. He saw the guy just run a stop route. He see the inside guy run a stop route. He see the inside guy run a stop route. So why would he backpedal? Now you're in the middle of the field

and you're going to throw way outside? You can't. Listen, for one, for one, unless the corner is way off at seven yards and you staring him down at the snap of the ball and he's backpedaling, that's the only time you throw to the wide side of the field.

You don't throw. That's called the rule number one as a quarterback. You don't throw to the wide side of the field. You don't throw. That's called the rule number one as a quarterback. You don't throw to the wide side of the field. You should know that. But here's the thing. Why would the corner backpedal when the guy that he's over runs a stop route and the guy on the inside, he runs a look right? So why am I backpedaling?

Ain't nobody better to threaten me. There's no threat. I'm just going to sit. And I'm saying to myself myself if he throw this ball i'm i'm i got a reservation for six i'm going to i'm going to get that in matter of fact you got to think about it too you got to think about down the distance what's the chances of actually calling a go route off the goal line you you go straight to quick game anyway so So, as a DB, your defensive coordinator probably ordering your ear, telling you, listen, something coming out quick. Slant.

The quick game, yeah. It got to. It got to. And first of all, I know you're not going to run anything deep because your O-line can't hold up. And you guys don't like to max protect. I'm looking at the formation. You can't max protect from that formation.

So, now, I already know. It's up to you. Damn, man. And listen, I mean, see, for us, or for you, I mean,

me watching the game on a plane, I'm thinking to myself, you know what? They can't block for Shador. So let's get him out the shotgun. But if we are going

to keep him in the shotgun, condense the formations so it doesn't take the route so long, the process. Because the dude, they get there so fast. So I'm thinking just go to the quick game and get a drive going

and get them de-limiting a little bit tired because they just, as soon as you drop back, as soon as you get the ball, they on his head. Ocho, you know why they like that? Because I know you can't run the football. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.

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so where are you going i'm gonna attack the quarterback i'll play the run on the way to the quarterback i also know your line is is leaky and your quarterback likes to hold on to the quarterback. I also know your line is leaky and your quarterback likes to hold on to the ball. You can't run it. You can't pass protect and your quarterback likes to hold on to the ball. I'm coming to get him every time. Hears pin all the way back.

Hears pin all the way back. I'm not even... The D-line coaches say, if they run it that's on me go hunt the quarterback now flip it around the buffs on defense they can't get no pressure on they can get no pressure none i mean you got you got to have one dog i mean either either a d-tackle that can cause some type of some type of confusion and some type of disruption of the offense

and the timing of it or have somebody on the edge that you have to account for. I mean, you basically, Nebraska basically

didn't have to account for anybody on defense. No. You didn't have to account for anybody. You gotta have a D tackle that can collapse the pocket inside Ocho

or you need to have an edge presence that can force him up so your defense, your D tackles can get, they don't have anybody. They can't collapse the pocket from the inside. They don't have an edge.

They don't have Twitch on the edge. So now you see the quarterback just, yeah, yeah. All day. All day. They just don't have, Oh,

Joe, they just don't have the pieces. Let's, let's be honest. They got, they got a quarterback. They got a wide receiver. Horn is is a nice is a nice two receiver he's really good he's good he's a good player he ain't trapped and they got your door but they don't have enough pieces to contend at that level

they just don't let me and and i don't know look he done tried it. You know, he get the transfer portal. They branded 45 guys. A lot of guys left. But you got to get, look, if you want to hunt, you got to get the right kind of dog. It's as simple as that. And I don't know how many, look, I grew up in the country. So I know about hunting. You have a bloodhound.

You have a blue tick. You have a black and tan. You have a red bone. Hey, you have a tree and walker. You have different types of dogs to do different types of things. We have bulldogs. We have shepherds to catch hogs. But we have a specific type of dog when we want to track deer or we want to

track raccoon. And then you have a different type of dog. When you start doing pheasant, you have pointers that are going to the bush and they'll stand out attention to let you know he in that bush. They won't move because they don't want to shoot until you're ready, but he'll let you know right now. See, you don't have dogs to hunt.

It's really that simple. How long does, I don't, how do you say it? You said it took Matt Rule one or two years to get it together. How long will it take Prime to be able to get

the type of dogs that's necessary to be able to compete with the Nebrask necessary to be able to compete with the Nebraska's be able to compete with the well North Dakota State I mean we they won but they didn't win convincingly look

you have to understand and people look at you look at look at look at Coach Saban how soon he turned that around but Alabama was a team that players wanted to go, like to go to anyway. So it was really, they won a couple of games. And now all of a sudden, they're going to start coming back, Ocho.

It's kind of like Miami. Miami went through that lull. Hell, all the players from Florida, they started going to Alabama. They go to Ohio State. They go into Michigan. They go in Georgia. Okay, Miami start winning. They start get some of

those guys back well colorado it's been a while since they had a program it's not like coach mccartney's cu buffs when they used to be when they had cordell and they had and they had alpha william and it could be enemy and uh jj flanagan and they they had Christian Fourier, they had Kenevis McGee, they had Dion Figures. They used to have a squad. Yeah, they were nice. And they kept getting them. They was going down to Houston. They was going to California and getting those guys.

Well, it's hard. It's going to take him longer to probably get the type of player. So where it took Matt Rule maybe two years, possibly three, it might take Prime three to four years to get the type of dog that he wants to go hunting with. Dang it.

But you look at Alabama. When Alabama went net, you look at what they put out. Look at all the offensive linemen that go first round. Look at all their defensive linemen. Look at the Quinney Williams and the Barbores. Look at all those guys. You look at those linebackers. Could you

imagine if Prime had those type of individuals at his helm right now early where you didn't have to wait three or four years to get those type of players in your program? Look, I understand what time, time wants to get proven players, guys that's in the portal,

guys that's in the portal, they've already in college. So they already are familiar with a college schedule. They know what study hall, they know training, they know practice, they know to go to class. But I don't know if I'm going to weigh so heavily. I still think you have to go get some, some high school players. Excuse me.

Oh, Joe, you've got to get some, but high school players aren't going to be able to contribute right now. Right away. Yeah. Hey, you see that 17 year old Alabama.

Oh boy. Hey, he's seven. Oh, Joe, he's supposed to be a high school. Hey, he's, he's a two time. Mr. He's a two time, uh. Hey, what? He's supposed to be a senior in high school. Hey, Unc, he's a two-time Mr. Alabama in football. He's in hell for this.

Let me go get a talent. But you got to understand that. You got to understand that's a special talent. Some players are, some players, how do you say it, not ahead of the curve? I don't know. Yeah, he's ahead of the curve. He's ahead of the curve from an athletic standpoint.

Yeah. Well, he's able to go to Alabama and fit athletic standpoint, where he's able to go to Alabama and fit right in, like he's been playing in college the past two, three years. That guy from, what's the receiver, number four from Ohio State?

He's from the crib, boy. He's from the crib. He's from the crib, from Chaminade. Oh, he's a real deal. Jeremiah Smith. He's ahead of the curve. You saw him hit his head off the goal post today

on a little stick route? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, caught that he called down uh that little that little seattle ride gone he's he's ahead of the curve yeah but it's gonna take it's gonna it's gonna take a while it's gonna take a while uh and the thing is is that are there are the buffs gonna be patient oh i don't like the way is is that are the buffs going to be patient? I don't like the way you say that. Now when you say the buffs, you mean upstairs, are they going to be patient?

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, you don't think it would come down to that though, huh? I mean, I think What in life isn't a bottom line business in sports? Look, I got a menu. This is my menu at Club Shea Shea.

The only thing I serve is doves and ales. I only serve wins and losses because that's all it's about in pro sports. All that other stuff is dressing. When did you win? Did you lose? That's all it's about in pro sports all that other stuff is it's dressing when did you win did you lose that's all they want to know i mean they fired larry coker from miami after going what eight and four the guy won a national championship lost it should have won back-to-back national championship because that wasn't passing but anyway they threw the flag. Ohio State game. And they fired him, Joe.

I just think the thing is, you know, sometimes you look, time is a product of his own success. They see how quickly he turned around Jackson State and it's like, okay, we can do that. And early on, he had great success. But I think, personally, I think it's probably a three. That's Colorado.

As bad as it's been, it's probably a three to four year deal. Do you think administration understands that? You think the people in positions of power above Prime's head understand that? That it's a three or four year deal to be able to get the type of players you want to get in there to be able to look at the menu and see that the winds are starting to come

on that side of the column well here's the thing when I look at it Ocho I can stomach losing if I think we're improving. Listen to what I'm saying now. I can stomach losing if I think we're improving. When you look at the buff and you look at it objectively,

the D-line isn't better. The O-line isn't better. They don't run the ball better. They don't pressure the ball better. They don't pressure the quarterback better. They got two highly, highly, highly skilled players. The quarterback and the wide receiver. But I don't care how great your quarterback is.

If I beat him up, I can neutralize it. And then I can throw on everybody else. I mean, just like time. I ain't got to prove how tough I am to try to throw at Travis Hunter. I can just go pick on everybody else. But that's the thing with coaching. That's why I never want to be a coach, Ocho,

because I don't get to directly control what happens. I do the best job I can of coaching the players and letting them know, okay, this is what we expect going to happen. But at the end of the day, once I get out there, it's out of my hands. I don't like that, man. That's the part I don't like. Listen, think about the time you put in. Think about the hours.

Think about all the film study that they put in. All the work throughout the week, preparing for Nebraska, breaking film down, having the music blasting, the music that you're going to hear once you're at their stadium, playing as you practice so you're used to it. And then to go out there and all the work, all the time, all the film you put in, and the results don't show up. Like, as a coach, that would bother me, which is why I also couldn't coach.

But, nah, man. It's tough, man. That's tough. Hell, being a leader on the team and having to coach more phones up. And that's really not my job to make sure when guys come in and out of the huddle, Ocho, my first, hey, you know what you got? Because if you, hey, you hot now? But not with one, with two.

So, you know, I'm making sure, hey, I'm telling John, even though I know he knows, I'm reminding, hey, seven, I'm your check down, I'm your hot. And sometimes he's asking, where's my hot? I got you. Normally, because I was always closest to him, more times than not, I was going to be the hot guy. But I also knew, was it going to take one? If he had empty protection, all it takes is one to make it hot. If we got a back in the backfield, it's going to take two.

TD can take one, and the other, we hot on the other one. But, yeah, I never wanted to coach. I understand people that do want to get in coaching. Time has always wanted to coach. Even when he first got out of the league, he was coaching his sons uh we went to the hall of fame he brought a boat boat load of uh kids up to play in in in tournaments but that wasn't my thing that's his thing but uh he'll get a turnaround oh joe number five notre dame suffered a shocking loss nobody's surprised because notre Notre Dame does this all the time they lost to Northern Illinois 16 14 and South Bend after missing a 60 yard field 62 yard field goal on the last play

it's the first time NIU has beaten a top team a top 10 team in school history Notre Dame paid Northern Illinois 1.4 million dollars to come kick their ass. Oh, okay, check this out. Notre Dame, Marcus Freeman loses for the third time as a home, as a massive, massive favorite. He lost. They were favored by 28 points today. They lost 16-14. In 2022, they was favored by 16 over Stanford. They lost 16-14.

In same year, 2022, they was favored by 20 over Marshall. They lost 26-21. After Notre Dame, quarterback Riley threw an interception with 5.55 left. They were leading 14-13. NIU drove 31 yards and 11 plays. Got a 35-yard field goal from Cannon Woodhill

to take a lead with 31 seconds. The loss comes after one week. Remember they went on the road, went to Allen Field, and Texas A&M won 23-13. We looked at the schedule. Remember, they only had like two or three road games. I mean, true road games.

Everything else was kind of like neutral site, or they played in South Bend. Everything was really set up perfect for them. And they gagged so early in the season. Do you think, I think most of these losses too, if you think about it, I'm not sure most of these losses where they were favored to win by whatever

the score, whatever the score was, they were favored by 28. I mean, this week I'm talking about in 2020, I mean the previous years. Oh yeah. I think they were at the beginning of the score was. They were favored by 28. I mean, this week, I'm talking about in 2020, I mean, the previous years. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they were at the beginning

of the season, too. If I'm not mistaken. I think all of them were at the beginning of the season. And do you think because it's only week two for collegiate football, it has anything to do with

anything? Like offense? Listen, defenses are going to be ahead of the curve because all they have to do is read the curve because all they have to do is read and react. All they have to do is read and react.

As far as offenses, it take them maybe week three, maybe the week three to week four to find their rhythm as an offense. Do you, do you believe in that at all? Or, or, or not really?

That could be. Oh, Joe, but I have a very, I had to learn a hard way, a very simple philosophy. Respect everyone, underestimate no one, and you'll be fine.

You look at, oh man, that's Northern Illinois. They ain't got no business on the field with us. And the next thing you know, we're in the fourth quarter, and it's a one-point game. Well now, Ocho, uh-oh ain't gonna help you. Because they believe they can be jazzed

see what you do is that you're killing that with a sledgehammer you go out you jump on them 28-0 in the first quarter they lay down

you give them no hope they're like ah man at least we got our budget taken care of we got paid 1.4 to come take this ass with me now

you let a team the later they go into the game the more confidence they gonna get Ocho oh yeah just like a cowboy if that bull ain't Now, you let a team, the later they go into the game, the more confidence they're going to get, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Just like a cowboy.

If that bull ain't bucked his ass off in the first spin, he's going to get confidence. He believes he can ride it. He believes he can stay on him the whole eight seconds. Well, you hadn't gotten rid of him through the first three quarters. Now you midway through the fourth quarter, Ocho, and it's a nipped-up ball game. A field goal here or a touchdown there,

and they can win, they're not going anywhere. They're going to play above probably what they could have. But, man, Ocho, this is a horrible loss. Yeah, most definitely. You can't have losses like this, man. Especially this early in horrible loss. Yeah, most definitely. You can't have losses like this, man. Especially this early in the season. And do you think a loss this early would affect them when it comes to playoff time or no? Oh, hell yeah.

Now, you do have 12 teams. So they'll get in. They'll still get in. I mean, because there were so many one-loss teams that made it actually, that got in last year. Yeah, but now you got to run the slate. Yeah, you got to run the gauntlet. You got to run the whole gauntlet.

Yeah. And, you know, you still got those teams in the SEC. You know, it's going to be tough. The 12 teams, it's a lot different. This probably would have doomed them had it just been the four-team situation, but because you got 12, there's still an outside chance they can get in, Ocho. You can run the

table, but I think the thing is now is that when you lose to this, your aura of invincibility, Ocho, team believe they can beat you because now they say, hey, Northern

Illinois went in there and beat them. Now you got to play your best game every single week because people believe they can beat you ass. I mean, you just can't have losses. Sometimes even though you can't have losses like this, sometimes

it's a good wake-up call. Not even for the coach, for the players. I know the coach didn't underestimate their opponent. I'm sure they prepared the same way they prepared last week. Sometimes the players might play down to your competition, to their competition. You do. It happens.

And I'm sure it's a good wake-up call for them. Of course. So they know they got to get they shit together next week. Yeah, you do. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way, Ocho. You know, sometimes you don't realize, you have to bump your own head to realize it hurt. Somebody tell him, man,

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Please do. oh cho number three texas goes on the road for the second year in a row be the top 10 team very tough place to play they rolled michigan 31 12 texas is 2-0 all-time against michigan quinn ewers 24 36 46, three touchdowns. Now you see why you go ahead and get that contract. Wait, wait a minute. See, this is not fair. This is, this, this, this is what's not fair. This is not fair. What's the, what's the head coach at Michigan? That's that's Mr. Right. This is, this is not fair for Mr. Right. You think about Michigan, right?

More, more, more, more, more. This is what's not fair about the Michigan thing. For one, he's not under contract, right? Moore. Jerome Moore, my man. This is what's not fair about the Michigan thing. For one, he's not under contract, right? He's not under contract. He has no money coming in. Not only that, I think about Michigan being number 10. Rank number 10, right? But everything, the ranking

is based on what they did last year. Not what they have now. As far as kids, players, so many kids are gone and have left, which are the reason for them being number 10. So it's like it almost puts him in it, puts him as a, I call him an interim coach because you ain't getting paid. And I think that's another reason why they didn't pay him. Maybe he's not the one they want for the job. Because they know the team is not the same, and they know that they're probably not going...

That's why you get your money. Yeah. Yeah. And now it makes sense to me, too. Now it makes sense to me why they hadn't come to terms with the deal yet, because they knew that the team wasn't going to be as good, and that he's not the guy they wanted for the job. I think that's the game they're playing.

I think the thing is that they felt obligated because while Jim Harbaugh was facing some suspension, he filled in at the interim. He was the offensive coordinator. He did a great job. Blah, blah, blah, X, Y, and Z. Look how good it is to understand when Harbaugh

was gone and he fills in as an interim coach, you know how easy it is to fill in when everything is already put together? When all the players are there on offense, when all the players are there on defense it's really easy for them to look good. But when all those players leave and now

you starting over from scratch this is what you get that's why they didn't give them a deal and they knew that they playing a game and I didn't notice the game until today oh you thought

that's normal that people get coaching jobs and don't get paid I see the play I see what they doing whoever the athletic play. I see what they're doing. Whoever the athletic director is, I see what you're doing. Texas got a stick. When you go on the road in consecutive years, you go to Alabama and Tuscaloosa

and you win and you go on the road in the big house and you bust that, you know what? I mean, this game wasn't even close. I mean, 31-12, like a 31-12. No, I mean, no, no, no, no, no I mean, this game wasn't even close. I mean, 31-12, like 31-12. No, I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no. This game wasn't close. Texas did a number on them.

Hey, Texas is good. Hey, they D-line. Texas showing they belong. Hey, the SEC, welcome. They D-line. Oh, they get out there. Man. I don't know what them boys.'t he transfer from ohio state he went he transferred from ohio state just like mccord the guy at syracuse he transferred

from ohio state but that just goes to show you the talent that they had at ohio state because remember the uh wide receiver j Jamison. Jamison Williams. He transferred. Wait, he was there first? Yeah, he was at Ohio State. Yes, with Olave and Garrett Wilson. They got so much talent,

man. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Damn. Yeah. Joe Burrow. He was at Ohio State. Wait, Joe was at Ohio State first. Yes. Yes.

Hold on. So you think they have favoritism? You think it's favoritism for who they want to start when you have that, that amount of, that much talent at one school? So why did Joe leave? Who was in front of Joe? She and everybody. To be honest with you Joe I feel like Joe

I mean you think about it Jamison Williams he left he's a first right he's a top 10 pick but look at Olave look at Garrett Wilson Jackson Smith and Jigba listen that might be that might be receiving you and what you call them

came like the next year, Marvin Harrison Jr. That's crazy. All of them at the same time. You know what they remind me of? Ain't nothing but the Hurricanes of the 90s. Florida State of the 90s. The Florida Gators of the 90s.

They plug a receiver after receiver because everybody was staying home. All the talent was staying home. Alabama had those running backs. You remember they had Derrick Henry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had, what's the guy,

what's the guy in New Orleans who transferred? At the same time? Alvin Kamara, he transferred, yes. Derrick Henry, all those guys. Because there was just one, Mark Ingram, and then you had Ed Lacey, and then you had this one, and you had that one. Remember Trent Richardson?

Yes! That's crazy. Yes, you got to go. Same thing with the wide receivers. Look at the wide receivers they have. They go Julio, and then they go Amari they have. They go Julio, and then they go Amari, and then they go Ridley, and then they go Judy, and they go

Ruggs, and they go Waddle, and they go Devontae Smith. Nasty, nasty. Yes. And the guy, he went to the Houston. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's nice. He's nice. He's nice.

So, yeah, but Texas did a number on Michigan. They did a number on Michigan. Texas looked like the real deal, man. I mean, two teams, I can honestly say, looked like the real deal. Georgia? Georgia got the thing, man. Man, Georgia ain't a...

Kirby got the boys. Georgia gonna be like that for a while now. Georgia's gonna be like that for a while because now what do you think everybody want to go what do you think everybody want to go yep and the thing is hey you got to get out of there because there ain't no guarantee you're gonna be the starter you go over there tomorrow now i'm gonna start you'll be able to be like you got to get up out you got to get up out of there because there's greater competition when you go to a Georgia, you go to an Alabama, you go to a Miami, and you play a still position

because think about what's behind you. Julio got Amari behind him, and Amari had Ridley behind him, and then you got Judy, you got Ruggs, you got Waddle, you got Devontae Smith, you got Mechie, you got Judy you got Ruggs you got Waddle you got Devontae Smith you got Metchie you got Jameson Williams all the first round picks on Joe now that's a testament to how good

young Bull is that's at Alabama right now that's only 17 the true freshman he's supposed to be a senior in high school how you a freshman and you at Alabama you starting and you cutting up like that right away yes you got to be special you got to be starting and you cutting up like that right away. Yes. You got to be special.

You got to be special. We don't have to wait till turn. Man. I'm sad. I'm sad. I'm sad about that. Michigan, that Michigan whole just everything going on right now, because I see I see what the athletic program or the athletic director is doing. The young bull to Mr.

Moore. I see it. I see it. It's coming at some point, another loss, maybe two more. Cause they know they can't compete because all the players are gone. They're going to try to find,

they're going to try to find, they're going to, they're going to get him up out of there. Uh, after Kyle McCord threw for 354 yards and four touchdowns in week one and a win over Ohio Syracuse head coach Fran Brown said he planned to send a bottle of champagne to Ohio State's Ryan Day for a line McCord to hit the transfer portal today McCord threw for 381 yards four touchdowns in an upset win over number 23 Georgia Tech. McCord is the first ACC

quarterback to throw for 350 yards and four scores in consecutive games since Kenny Pickett did it in three straight games for Pitt in 2021. McCord was widely cast as the fall guy with Ohio State's inability to beat Michigan last season. And the Buckeyes move to Kansas State

transfer Will Howard. They pay good money to get Will Howard, too. What? You know the numbers? I just want to know the numbers. Well, they say Ohio State got a $20 million roster. Hold on. You really think they got a $20 million roster or people just throwing that number out there?

Well, the going rate for a top quarterback is somewhere, they say, between $800 and $1.2 million. That's for a quarterback. Receivers garner somewhere between $400,000 and $800,000. What? Yep. Well, can you imagine, boy, being 16, 17, getting 8, 4, 8, 8, and you show them numbers ain't exaggerated, huh?

I'm the only guy. I'm a go. When I go, when I went to one of those D1 schools, we in the projects for one month. After that,

Granny, let's go. We out of there, huh? We out of there. Ain't no more buying the sausages. Ain't no potted meat. Ain't no more soggy ass cornflakes. Oh, we eating good granny

800,000 for a receiver yeah I mean it was reported that what you call him got excess of a couple of million dollars Addison when he left Pitt you remember he was the Bolitnikoff award winner he leaves Pitt

and goes to USC. So you know it took a number to pry him away. That's crazy when you think about it, because I'm thinking about me being that young, getting that kind of money. I mean, even though I did make it to the league, but I'm just saying

as a freshman. Yeah, you ain't have that money at 17, 18. No, no, man. I'm just, I can't. And I would still open up Cracker Jack boxes, man. Excited about the prize. I'm finna get out of there.

All I know, all I know is Granny ain't got nothing to worry about. Yeah, most definitely. Did you have, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Did you have that same mindset

when you were that young, though? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My whole wait, wait a minute. Did you have that same mindset when you were that young though? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. My, my whole thing. Oh Joe, only thing I ever thought about get granted out of that. But you know, most kids don't think like that when they're that young, you know that. So you, you, you, you, you. It's, it's amazing.

We'll go into the bathroom in 10 degrees outside. It's amazing what going to the bathroom in 10 degrees outside out there in the woods it's amazing when it's 100 degrees and the mosquitoes like you that's different because circumstance because the circumstance make you think a different way if you got some money

you over here laughing you gotta take you gotta take raid out there try to put a cloud around you so the mosquitoes don't tell you yeah man man they have your pride on you oh man i'm just if you're from the south y'all know what i'm talking about they call we got no mosquitoes they call them gallo dipper because they drink a gallon of blood they hit you yeah they get a gallon of pot you oh just think about that, man. Could you imagine

being at age 17, 18, you know, going to college, going to Alabama, going to Georgia, and being so good that they're willing to pay you $700,000, $800,000 before you even sniff the NFL?

Shiloh making $450,000. Okay, I know about that. Yeah, yeah. Arch Manning was on the NFL. Shiloh making four or five million. Okay, I know about that. Yeah. Yeah. Arch Manning was on the bench. He did three and a half million. Really? He the backup.

He make a three and a half already? He didn't even touch the field? Yes. That was last year. Three and a half again this year. Yes. I mean, he going to hear. You promising top recruits.

Nope. Nope. You know, recruits. Nope, nope. Top five guys that's coming out of high school at a position. Oh, they're probably getting somewhere between half a mil and a mil out the top. That's at the minimum. That's me. So all the money is coming from the boosters, specific boosters. NIL, yeah. So how do they, how do, I understand paying them, but how do they get the money back?

How do they? Who? They write it off because you got to pay taxes on that money. Okay. Okay. Oh, ain't no free money. The first thing you do, if you go get that kind of money, you need to go get

you an accountant so you don't get yourself jammed up. Because you don't keep all that 1.5 me. No. All these free... these three oh you come here and eat free and all that stuff no no no no no no hey now they writing that off you better make sure so oh cho alabama survives us usf Sloppy game with 20 combined penalties left much to be desired. But Jalen Milrow, four touchdowns, two passing,

two rushing, paced Alabama. Alabama advances to 2-0 and travels to Wisconsin next week for its first role game of the season. Milrow, 15-25, 184-2 touchdowns. They were sloppy.

They turned the ball over three times. Fumbled a couple times close in the red zone, which made the game a lot closer. It should be. But then they stepped on the gas late in the fourth quarter and then raced away. They scored a touchdown and made it 21-13. I think USF kicked a field goal to make it 21-16 and then touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

touchdown. Listen, playing down to your competition again, making mistakes. Sloppy football. Again, it's early in the season. We just watched four NFL teams play so far. We watched the Chiefs. We watched the Ravens. We watched the Packers and the Eagles.

And when we watched the Eagles game and the Packers, how did it look that first quarter? Sloppy. Yeah. It was sloppy. Sloppy. So imagine collegiate kids on how they're going to look if the NFL can't even get it right.

And they've been doing it for the longest. And you're supposed to be the 1%, the best of the best. That's why I say I think by the time you get to week three, you get to week three, you get to week four, I think offenses then will be in a groove. There'll be a certain rhythm. There'll be a certain beat you march into

where everybody's in sync. Yeah, it's tough, Ocho, because the guys are not really playing a whole lot in preseason games, so it's really hard to tell. And I get it. Oh, yeah, you because the guys are not really playing a whole lot in preseason games. So it's really hard to tell. And I get it. Oh, yeah, you know what? We get some great work and scrimmage and, you know, teams coming over and doing dual practices. It ain't the same.

It ain't the same. It's not. It's not. And I don't mean to be no bearer of bad news. I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade. But it's just not. It's not the same as a guy that's have done it, you know,

have, you know, normally. Yeah. Cause what we would do, we would have a joint practice and then we end up playing that team in the game. You know what I'm saying?

We, we, we would play. So say we play the Cardinals that Saturday, the Cardinals was coming in. So we practice Wednesday, Thursday. Then we played Saturday.

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